Oscillator Discussion Thread

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns in Conway's Game of Life, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 15th, 2020, 4:50 pm

Imagine if this could be completed at P3... This might lead to a true-period 51 gun.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 15th, 2020, 4:53 pm

At the moment, it looks like that 10 is the minimum period for a extensible glider shuttle.
In StateInvestigator, the current minimum period is 6, so if the following pattern have Life counterparts, we can get that number down to 6: (pattern on the right to show extensibility)

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x = 16, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
BE8.BE$BA8.BA$C9.C$A.A7.A.A$.2A8.2A$.A9.A$3.C$3.B$2.EB11.C$15.B$14.EB
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 15th, 2020, 5:46 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 4:53 pm
At the moment, it looks like that 10 is the minimum period for a extensible glider shuttle.
In StateInvestigator, the current minimum period is 6, so if the following pattern have Life counterparts, we can get that number down to 6: (pattern on the right to show extensibility)

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x = 16, y = 11, rule = StateInvestigator
BE8.BE$BA8.BA$C9.C$A.A7.A.A$.2A8.2A$.A9.A$3.C$3.B$2.EB11.C$15.B$14.EB
!
I looked into a certain type of glider shuttle a while back, and a p4 version is theoretically possible.

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$A.A3.A$3.A.3A$.3A.2A$5.3A$6.2A$6.2A$2.4A$8A$2.A2.A!
#C [[ GPS 4 PASTEMODE COPY ]]
#C [[ PASTET EVERY 4 4 PASTE 6.C$A.A3.C$3.A.3C$.3A.2C$5.3C$6.2C$6.2C$2.4C$8C$2.C2.C! 0 0 ]]
#C [[ PASTET EVERY 4 2 PASTE .C.3C.C$.C.7C$3C2.3C$.2C$.2C3.2A$3C3.A.A$.C4.A$.C6.A! -4 -2 ]]
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 15th, 2020, 6:02 pm

P9 heavyweight emulator:

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x = 18, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$6bo4bo$2b2o10b2o$2bo2bo6bo2bo$3b3ob4ob3o$6bo4bo$3b3o6b3o$2bo12bo$
3b5o2b5o$8b2o$5b2o4b2o$4bobo4bobo$4b2o6b2o3$6b2o2b2o$5bo2b2o2bo$3bobob
4obobo$b3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$3bo
b2o4b2obo!
EDIT: I was messing around with JLS and the frontend showed up. A lot more searching happened after that, and then I saw something very loosely connected in JLS. It was this.

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o10b2o$o2bo6bo2bo$b3o6b3o$4b6o$b4o4b4o$o12bo$b5o2b5o2$3b8o$2bo2bo2bo
2bo$2b2o6b2o$6b2o$5bo2bo$4bo4bo$4bob2obo!
So then I realized that an ordinary domino spark could support it, and after that, I just hooked up a known domino sparker to it.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » November 15th, 2020, 7:52 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 6:02 pm
P9 heavyweight emulator:

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x = 18, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$6bo4bo$2b2o10b2o$2bo2bo6bo2bo$3b3ob4ob3o$6bo4bo$3b3o6b3o$2bo12bo$
3b5o2b5o$8b2o$5b2o4b2o$4bobo4bobo$4b2o6b2o3$6b2o2b2o$5bo2b2o2bo$3bobob
4obobo$b3obobo2bobob3o$o3b2ob4ob2o3bo$b2o3bo4bo3b2o$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$3bo
b2o4b2obo!
TBH I saw it first from Discord Lounge but watching it for the second time doesn't make me less excited :)
I'm pretty sure this deserves a place for jslife-osc-extended-collection-from-Sokwe I think :)

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » November 15th, 2020, 9:40 pm

Reviving another post:
Sokwe wrote:
July 20th, 2013, 10:50 pm
A silly little pattern:

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x = 70, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
32bo$31bobo$31bobo$6b2o22b2ob3o$ob2obobo28bo$2obobo24b2ob3o$4b2o24b2ob
o$24bo$22bo3bo$b2o18bo$b2o18bo4bo$7bo13b5o$8b2o$7b2o3$33bo$19b2o7b2o3b
o3bo$20bo7bobo7bo$20bobo5bobo3bo2b2o$21b2o6bo4bo8bo$41b3o$18bo21bo$19b
2o19b2o$18b2o5b2o$23bobo2bo$24bobo2b2o$28bo2$48b2o$50bo$48b2obo$50bobo
$31b2o4b2o11bobo$30bobo4bobo$30bo8bo$30bobo4bobo$17bobo11b2o4b2o$17bob
o$18bob2o$19bo$20b2o2$41bo$39b2o2bobo$41bo2bobo$43b2o5b2o$28b2o19b2o$
29bo21bo$26b3o$26bo8bo4bo6b2o$31b2o2bo3bobo5bobo$31bo7bobo7bo$32bo3bo
3b2o7b2o$36bo3$61b2o$60b2o$44b5o13bo$43bo4bo18b2o$48bo18b2o$43bo3bo$
45bo$36bob2o24b2o$34b3ob2o24bobob2o$33bo28bobob2obo$34b3ob2o22b2o$36bo
bo$36bobo$37bo!
The mechanism where two gliders and a pentadecathlon collide and become two pi's works at p50 and p59 as well, as can be seen in the respective glider guns. Can we make new oscillators with this design?

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 15th, 2020, 10:29 pm

Is there a p42 oscillator that hassles the seven-cell diehard?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by goldenratio » November 15th, 2020, 11:29 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 10:29 pm
Is there a p42 oscillator that hassles the seven-cell diehard?
You mean something like this?

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x = 45, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
2b2o3b3o$2b2o3bobo$7b3o6$6b5o2bo$2bo7bo2bo$2bo7bo2bo$5o5bo2bo$2bo3b5o
2bo$2bo3bo6bo$6bo6bo$6bo6bo$6b5o2bo5$9bo9bo$9b3o6bo$2b3o7b2o3bo2b4o$2b
obo3bo4bo4bo8bo$2b3o3bo10bo6b3obobob3ob3o$8bo3bo14bo2bobobo3bobo$11bo
15b2ob3obo3bobo3$27bo$37bo$27bo2b4o2b3o2b4o$27bo2bo2bo3bo3bo2bo$27bo2b
o2bo3bo3bo2bo$27bo2bo2bo3b2o2b4o5$27bo3bo$27bo3bo9bo$27bo3bo9bobo$27b
3obob3ob3ob2o$27bobobobobobo3bobo$27b3obob3ob3obobo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 15th, 2020, 11:39 pm

goldenratio wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 11:29 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
November 15th, 2020, 10:29 pm
Is there a p42 oscillator that hassles the seven-cell diehard?
You mean something like this?
Yes, exactly.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 18th, 2020, 7:23 pm

V sparker-based queen bee shuttle.

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x = 164, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
57b2o46b2o$50bo4b3o2bo42bo2b3o4bo$37bo10b3o3bo4b2o42b2o4bo3b3o10bo$36b
obo8bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo30bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b2o
b2o2b3o2b2o3bobo2bobobo28bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o4bo
$8b3o3bo2b4o4bobo3b2o2bob2obobobob2o3b2o3bo2b2o2bobobo28bobobo2b2o2bo
3b2o3b2obobobob2obo2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo2bobo2b
o4b3o2b2o2b2o4bo2bo30bo2bo4b2o2b2o2b3o4bo2bobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$
6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2obobob2o4bob2o6bo5b2o46b2o5bo6b2obo4b2obobob2ob4o2b
5ob2o2b3obo$6bobo3bo2bo5b3o4bo2bo2bobobo5bo5b2obobobobobob2o34b2obobob
obobob2o5bo5bobobo2bo2bo4b3o5bo2bo3bobo$5b2obob2obobob4o3bo3bo7bo2bo3b
3o3b2o2bob2o6b2o34b2o6b2obo2b2o3b3o3bo2bo7bo3bo3b4obobob2obob2o$4bo4b
3obo2bo3bobo2bo2b3o2bo2bo3bo3bob2obo8b3obobo18bo15bobob3o8bob2obo3bo3b
o2bo2b3o2bo2bobo3bo2bob3o4bo$3bob3o5bobo2bo3bobob2o2bobobobobo2bo3b3o
4bobo4bob4o18bobo13b4obo4bobo4b3o3bo2bobobobobo2b2obobo3bo2bobo5b3obo$
b3o3bo4bobob2obo8b2o2b2obob2o3bobob2o2bobo12bo2bo3b2o10bobo3b2o3bo2bo
12bobo2b2obobo3b2obob2o2b2o8bob2obobo4bo3b3o$o4b3obo2bo6b2o9b2o3bo10b
2o4b2o9b2o4bobo2bo9bo2bobo2bobo4b2o9b2o4b2o10bo3b2o9b2o6bo2bob3o4bo$b
3o3bo4bobob2obo8b2o2b2obob2o3bobob2o2bobo12bo2bo3b2o10bobo3b2o3bo2bo
12bobo2b2obobo3b2obob2o2b2o8bob2obobo4bo3b3o$3bob3o5bobo2bo3bobob2o2bo
bobobobo2bo3b3o4bobo4bob4o18bobo13b4obo4bobo4b3o3bo2bobobobobo2b2obobo
3bo2bobo5b3obo$4bo4b3obo2bo3bobo2bo2b3o2bo2bo3bo3bob2obo8b3obobo18bo
15bobob3o8bob2obo3bo3bo2bo2b3o2bo2bobo3bo2bob3o4bo$5b2obob2obobob4o3bo
3bo7bo2bo3b3o3b2o2bob2o6b2o34b2o6b2obo2b2o3b3o3bo2bo7bo3bo3b4obobob2ob
ob2o$6bobo3bo2bo5b3o4bo2bo2bobobo5bo5b2obobobobobob2o34b2obobobobobob
2o5bo5bobobo2bo2bo4b3o5bo2bo3bobo$6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2obobob2o4bob2o6bo
5b2o46b2o5bo6b2obo4b2obobob2ob4o2b5ob2o2b3obo$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo
2bobo2bo4b3o2b2o2b2o4bo2bo30bo2bo4b2o2b2o2b3o4bo2bobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo
2b2o3bo$8b3o3bo2b4o4bobo3b2o2bob2obobobob2o3b2o3bo2b2o2bobobo28bobobo
2b2o2bo3b2o3b2obobobob2obo2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b
2ob2o2b3o2b2o3bobo2bobobo28bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o
4bo$36bobo8bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo30bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$37bo10b3o3bo4b2o
42b2o4bo3b3o10bo$50bo4b3o2bo42bo2b3o4bo$57b2o46b2o4$57b2o46b2o$50bo4b
3o2bo42bo2b3o4bo$37bo10b3o3bo4b2o42b2o4bo3b3o10bo$36bobo8bo3b2o2b4o2b
2o3bo30bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b2ob2o2b3o2b2o3bobo
2bobobo28bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o4bo$8b3o3bo2b4o4bob
o3b2o2bob2obobobob2o3b2o2bo4bob2obobo28bobob2obo4bo2b2o3b2obobobob2obo
2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo2bobo4bob4o2bo2bo7bobo30bo
bo7bo2bo2b4obo4bobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2obobo2bo
2bo2b3o6bobo5bo2b3o34b3o2bo5bobo6b3o2bo2bo2bobob2ob4o2b5ob2o2b3obo$6bo
bo3bo2bo5b2o5bobobobobo5bo6bobo3bobo4b3o34b3o4bobo3bobo6bo5bobobobobo
5b2o5bo2bo3bobo$5b2obo4bobob4o3bo2b2obo5bo2bo3bo2bob2ob2o2b3o3bo3bo32b
o3bo3b3o2b2ob2obo2bo3bo2bo5bob2o2bo3b4obobo4bob2o$4bo3b2obobob2o3bo3b
3obob2obo2bo2b2o2bo3bob2o2b3o2b3o4bo17bo14bo4b3o2b3o2b2obo3bo2b2o2bo2b
ob2obob3o3bo3b2obobob2o3bo$3bob4ob2obobo2b2obobob3o2bobobobob2obob2o6b
obo4b2ob2ob2o17bobo12b2ob2ob2o4bobo6b2obob2obobobobo2b3obobob2o2bobob
2ob4obo$b3o8bob4ob2o6b3o2b2obob2o9bo3bo12bo6b2o10bobo3b2o6bo12bo3bo9b
2obob2o2b3o6b2ob4obo8b3o$o3bo2bo3b2o6b2o9b2o3bo12bo3b2o10b2o2b2obo2bo
9bo2bobo2bob2o2b2o10b2o3bo12bo3b2o9b2o6b2o3bo2bo3bo$b3o8bob4ob2o6b3o2b
2obob2o9bo3bo12bo6b2o10bobo3b2o6bo12bo3bo9b2obob2o2b3o6b2ob4obo8b3o$3b
ob4ob2obobo2b2obobob3o2bobobobob2obob2o6bobo4b2ob2ob2o17bobo12b2ob2ob
2o4bobo6b2obob2obobobobo2b3obobob2o2bobob2ob4obo$4bo3b2obobob2o3bo3b3o
bob2obo2bo2b2o2bo3bob2o2b3o2b3o4bo17bo14bo4b3o2b3o2b2obo3bo2b2o2bo2bob
2obob3o3bo3b2obobob2o3bo$5b2obo4bobob4o3bo2b2obo5bo2bo3bo2bob2ob2o2b3o
3bo3bo32bo3bo3b3o2b2ob2obo2bo3bo2bo5bob2o2bo3b4obobo4bob2o$6bobo3bo2bo
5b2o5bobobobobo5bo6bobo3bobo4b3o34b3o4bobo3bobo6bo5bobobobobo5b2o5bo2b
o3bobo$6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2obobo2bo2bo2b3o6bobo5bo2b3o34b3o2bo5bobo6b3o
2bo2bo2bobob2ob4o2b5ob2o2b3obo$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo2bobo4bob4o2bo2b
o7bobo30bobo7bo2bo2b4obo4bobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$8b3o3bo2b4o4bobo
3b2o2bob2obobobob2o3b2o2bo4bob2obobo28bobob2obo4bo2b2o3b2obobobob2obo
2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b2ob2o2b3o2b2o3bobo2bobobo
28bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o4bo$36bobo8bo3b2o2b4o2b2o
3bo30bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$37bo10b3o3bo4b2o42b2o4bo3b3o10bo$50bo4b3o
2bo42bo2b3o4bo$57b2o46b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 18th, 2020, 7:53 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 18th, 2020, 7:23 pm
V sparker-based queen bee shuttle.
Is there a stable eater that uses the beehive-shifting reaction, similarly to how the eater 3 uses the loaf shifting-reaction?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 18th, 2020, 8:09 pm

Also:

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x = 170, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
78bo12bo$77b3o10b3o3$57b2o18b3o10b3o18b2o$50bo4b3o2bo48bo2b3o4bo$37bo
10b3o3bo4b2o16bobo10bobo16b2o4bo3b3o10bo$36bobo8bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo10bob
o10bobo10bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b2ob2o2b3o2b2o3bo
bo2bobobo34bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o4bo$8b3o3bo2b4o4b
obo3b2o2bob2obobobo6b2o2bo3bob3obobo9b3o10b3o9bobob3obo3bo2b2o6bobobob
2obo2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo2bobobo2bob4o2b2o6bo4b
o36bo4bo6b2o2b4obo2bobobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2ob
obo2b2obob4o6bo2bobo5bo44bo5bobo2bo6b4obob2o2bobob2ob4o2b5ob2o2b3obo$
6bobo3bo2bo5b2o3bo3bob2o2b2o4bobo3b2obo2b2ob2o2bo3bo11b3o10b3o11bo3bo
2b2ob2o2bob2o3bobo4b2o2b2obo3bo3b2o5bo2bo3bobo$5b2obo4bobob4o2b2obobob
ob2o2b2ob2ob2o3bo3b3o3bob5obo12bo12bo12bob5obo3b3o3bo3b2ob2ob2o2b2obob
obob2o2b4obobo4bob2o$4bo6bobobo5bobo4bobob2o2bo6bo3bobo3bobo6bo2b2o19b
o16b2o2bo6bobo3bobo3bo6bo2b2obobo4bobo5bobobo6bo$3bob4ob2obo4bo2bo8bo
3bobo5b3o3b4obo4bo2bo2b3o3b2o14bobo14b3o2bo2bo4bob4o3b3o5bobo3bo8bo2bo
4bob2ob4obo$b3obo2bobo3b4o3bo5b3o2b2obob3o11bo11bo2bo3b3o14bobo6b2o5bo
2bo11bo11b3obob2o2b3o5bo3b4o3bobo2bob3o$o3bo6b2o8bo8b2o3bo11b3ob3o10b
3o6bo13bo2bo4bo2bo4b3o10b3ob3o11bo3b2o8bo8b2o6bo3bo$b3obo2bobo3b4o3bo
5b3o2b2obob3o11bo11bo2bo3b3o14bobo6b2o5bo2bo11bo11b3obob2o2b3o5bo3b4o
3bobo2bob3o$3bob4ob2obo4bo2bo8bo3bobo5b3o3b4obo4bo2bo2b3o3b2o14bobo14b
3o2bo2bo4bob4o3b3o5bobo3bo8bo2bo4bob2ob4obo$4bo6bobobo5bobo4bobob2o2bo
6bo3bobo3bobo6bo2b2o19bo16b2o2bo6bobo3bobo3bo6bo2b2obobo4bobo5bobobo6b
o$5b2obo4bobob4o2b2obobobob2o2b2ob2ob2o3bo3b3o3bob5obo12bo12bo12bob5ob
o3b3o3bo3b2ob2ob2o2b2obobobob2o2b4obobo4bob2o$6bobo3bo2bo5b2o3bo3bob2o
2b2o4bobo3b2obo2b2ob2o2bo3bo11b3o10b3o11bo3bo2b2ob2o2bob2o3bobo4b2o2b
2obo3bo3b2o5bo2bo3bobo$6bob3o2b2ob5o2b4ob2obobo2b2obob4o6bo2bobo5bo44b
o5bobo2bo6b4obob2o2bobob2ob4o2b5ob2o2b3obo$7bo3b2o2bo5bo5bo3bobobo2bob
obo2bob4o2b2o6bo4bo36bo4bo6b2o2b4obo2bobobo2bobobo3bo5bo5bo2b2o3bo$8b
3o3bo2b4o4bobo3b2o2bob2obobobo6b2o2bo3bob3obobo9b3o10b3o9bobob3obo3bo
2b2o6bobobob2obo2b2o3bobo4b4o2bo3b3o$10bo4b2obo6b2o8bo2bo2b2ob2o2b3o2b
2o3bobo2bobobo34bobobo2bobo3b2o2b3o2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o6bob2o4bo$36bobo8b
o3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo10bobo10bobo10bo3b2o2b4o2b2o3bo8bobo$37bo10b3o3bo4b2o
16bobo10bobo16b2o4bo3b3o10bo$50bo4b3o2bo48bo2b3o4bo$57b2o18b3o10b3o18b
2o3$77b3o10b3o$78bo12bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 18th, 2020, 8:32 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 18th, 2020, 8:09 pm
Also:
A pentadecathalon can push too. The T-nose makes it a bit hard though. :P

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x = 54, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$25bo2bo$2o3bo2bo3b2o3b2o5bo11b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o$5o4b5o2bo2bo4bo
10bo2bob5o4b5o$2o3bo2bo3b2o3b2o5bo11b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o$25bo2bo$27b2o14$
27b2o$27b2o$2o3bo2bo3b2o3b2o5b2o10b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o$5o4b5o2bo2bo3b3o9b
o2bob5o4b5o$2o3bo2bo3b2o3b2o5b2o10b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o$27b2o$27b2o!
EDIT: A caterer can non-trivially interact with this big jslife sparker.

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x = 28, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
14b3o$18bo$13bo4bo$17bo$14b2o$14bo$14bo$14bo2$13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo
3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b
3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$
bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo
4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2bob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bo7b
6o7bo2bo$b2o3b3o10b3o3b2o$5bob6o2b6obo$4bob2o4bo2bo4b2obo$4bo6bo4bo6bo
$b2obo3b5o2b5o3bob2o$b2obob2obo2bo2bo2bob2obob2o$5bo2b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo$
6bobo10bobo$4bobobobo6bobobobo$4b2o3b2o6b2o3b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Scorbie » November 19th, 2020, 7:49 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
November 18th, 2020, 7:53 pm
wwei23 wrote:
November 18th, 2020, 7:23 pm
V sparker-based queen bee shuttle.
Is there a stable eater that uses the beehive-shifting reaction, similarly to how the eater 3 uses the loaf shifting-reaction?
Unfortunately no, and it would be a really really nice discovery if someone found one.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » November 21st, 2020, 9:24 am

A pseudo-period stabilization of the p47 wick, inspired from wwei23's idea of using a 2c/3 signal:

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x = 175, y = 159, rule = B3/S23
86b2o3bo15bo3b2o$87bo2bobo13bobo2bo$85bo4bobo13bobo4bo$85b5obo15bob5o$
89bo19bo$78b2o5b2o3bo17bo3b2o5b2o$79bo5b2o4bo15bo4b2o5bo$79bobo8b2o15b
2o8bobo$73bo6b2o35b2o6bo$73b3o47b3o$76bo45bo$75b2o45b2o2$94b2o7b2o$87b
o6b2o7b2o13b2o$71b2o13b3o30b2o5b2o$72bo12b5o28bo7bo$72bobo9b2o3b2o33bo
bo$73b2o10b5o24b2o8b2o$86b3o3b2o11b2o6b3obo$87bo4bobo9bobo6bo2b2o$94bo
9bo9b2o$94b2o6b3o$71b2o22bo5bo17b2o5b2o$71b2o21bo7bo15bobo5b2o$95b3ob
3o16bobo$97bobo18b2o$97bobo$98bo$85b2o25b2o$40bo3b2o29b2o8bobo23bobo8b
2o$15bo7b2o14bobo2bo30bo4b2o5bo23bo5b2o4bo$15b3o5b2o14bobo4bo29bo3b2o
5b2o21b2o5b2o3bo$8b2o8bo21bob5o30bo21bo14bo6bo$9bo7b2o16b2o5bo32bob5o
17bobo12b8obo$9bobo18b2o2bo2bo3bo3b2o5b2o20bobo4bo7b2o8b2o17bo3bobo$
10b2o8bo9bobo2bobo2bo4b2o5bo21bobo2bo8bobo15bo7b2o5bo2bo$19b3o11b2obo
3b2o8bobo22bo3b2o7bo17b3o5b2o6b2o$5bo12b2ob2o11bo15b2o6bo28b2o20bo$5b
3o9b3ob3o10bo21b3o49b2o16b2o$8bo9b2ob2o8b2ob2o10bo8bo65b2o2bo2bo$7b2o
10b3o9b2obo12bo7b2o54bo9bobo2b2o$20bo13bo12bo62bo2bo10b2o$34bob2o58bo
17bo2bo7bo$33b2ob2o58b3o6b2o4bo3b3o7bob2o$2b2ob2o22b2o13bo14b2o26bobo
9bo6bo4bo4bo5b2obo2bo$o2bob2o22bo13bobo13bo27b2o9b2o6bo2bo5bo6b2ob2o$
2obo26b3o9b2ob2o10bobo28bo19b2o$3bo28bo9bo2bo11b2o50bobobo$3b2o33b2o3b
2o65bobo$b2o2bobo29bobo53b2ob2o22b2o$o2bo2b2o29bo53bo2bob2o22bo$b2o16b
2o15b2o53b2obo26b3o$19bo39b2o33bo28bo$13b2o5b3o8bo27b2o33b2o$13b2o7bo
9bo59b2o2bobo18b2o$22bobo5b3o43bo14bo2bo2b2o18bobo$23bobo49bo16b2o16b
2o7bo$25bo49b3o32bo8b2o$25b3o17b2o57b2o5b3o$28bo15bobo8b2o47b2o7bo$25b
3o16bo5b2o4bo$25bo17b2o5b2o3bo$13b2o7b2obo28bo57b2o$13b2o5b3obo25b5obo
3bob2ob2o45bo$19bo30bo4bobo2b2obobo47bo$b2o16b2o21bo9bo2bobo5bobo44b4o
$o2bo2b2o35b2o6b2o3bo6b2o45bo$b2o2bobo27b2o5b2o67b3o$3b2o12bo17bo30b2o
39b2o4bo$3bo12bobo13bo3b3o27bo16b2o5b2o16bo$2obo10b2o2bo11b3o5bo30bo
12bo9bo12bo44b2o7bo$o2bob2o6bo2b2o11bo38b2o7bo5bo2bobo2bo5bo7b2o43b2o
5b3o$2b2ob2o5bo16b2o46bo7b2ob2o7bo58bo8b2o$13bo2bo121b2o16b2o7bo$15b2o
59b2o19b2o38bo2bo2b2o18bobo$14b2o10b3ob2o47b3o11b3o42b2o2bobo18b2o$7b
2o16bo3b2obob2o39bo3b2o13b2o3bo40b2o$8bo16bo6bobo2bo17bo20bo21bo20b2o
19bo3bo3bo20bo$5b3o17bo4b2o2bob2o15bobo63bobo15b2obo2b2o4bo17b3o$5bo
20bo3bo3bo19b2o20bo21bo20bo17bo2bobo6bo16bo$33b2o40bo3b2o13b2o3bo39b2o
bob2o3bo16b2o$10b2o18bobo2b2o42b3o11b3o47b2ob3o10b2o$9bobo18b2o2bo2bo
38b2o19b2o59b2o$9bo7b2o16b2o121bo2bo$8b2o8bo58bo7b2ob2o7bo46b2o16bo5b
2ob2o$15b3o5b2o43b2o7bo5bo2bobo2bo5bo7b2o38bo11b2o2bo6b2obo2bo$15bo7b
2o44bo12bo9bo12bo30bo5b3o11bo2b2o10bob2o$66bo16b2o5b2o16bo27b3o3bo13bo
bo12bo$61bo4b2o39b2o30bo17bo12b2o$61b3o67b2o5b2o27bobo2b2o$64bo45b2o6b
o3b2o6b2o35b2o2bo2bo$61b4o44bobo5bobo2bo9bo21b2o16b2o$61bo47bobob2o2bo
bo4bo30bo$62bo45b2ob2obo3bob5o25bob3o5b2o$61b2o57bo28bob2o7b2o$119bo3b
2o5b2o17bo$118bo4b2o5bo16b3o$61bo7b2o47b2o8bobo15bo$61b3o5b2o57b2o17b
3o$54b2o8bo32b3o49bo$55bo7b2o16b2o16bo49bobo$55bobo18b2o2bo2bo14bo43b
3o5bobo$56b2o18bobo2b2o59bo9bo7b2o$79b2o33b2o27bo8b3o5b2o$51bo28bo33b
2o39bo$51b3o26bob2o53b2o15b2o16b2o$54bo22b2obo2bo53bo29b2o2bo2bo$53b2o
22b2ob2o53bobo29bobo2b2o$62bobo65b2o3b2o33b2o$61bobobo50b2o11bo2bo9bo
28bo$65b2o19bo28bobo10b2ob2o9b3o26bob2o$48b2ob2o6bo5bo2bo6b2o9b2o27bo
13bobo13bo22b2obo2bo$46bo2bob2o5bo4bo4bo6bo9bobo26b2o14bo13b2o22b2ob2o
$46b2obo7b3o3bo4b2o6b3o58b2ob2o$49bo7bo2bo17bo58b2obo$49b2o10bo2bo62bo
12bo13bo$47b2o2bobo9bo54b2o7bo12bob2o9b3o10b2o$46bo2bo2b2o65bo8bo10b2o
b2o8b2ob2o9bo$47b2o16b2o49b3o21bo10b3ob3o9b3o$65bo20b2o28bo6b2o15bo11b
2ob2o12bo$51b2o6b2o5b3o17bo7b2o3bo22bobo8b2o3bob2o11b3o$50bo2bo5b2o7bo
15bobo8bo2bobo21bo5b2o4bo2bobo2bobo9bo8b2o$50bobo3bo17b2o8b2o7bo4bobo
20b2o5b2o3bo3bo2bo2b2o18bobo$51bob8o12bobo17b5obo32bo5b2o16b2o7bo$53bo
6bo14bo21bo30b5obo21bo8b2o$52bo3b2o5b2o21b2o5b2o3bo29bo4bobo14b2o5b3o$
51bo4b2o5bo23bo5b2o4bo30bo2bobo14b2o7bo$51b2o8bobo23bobo8b2o29b2o3bo$
61b2o25b2o$76bo$75bobo$55b2o18bobo$54bobo16b3ob3o$47b2o5bobo15bo7bo21b
2o$47b2o5b2o17bo5bo22b2o$70b3o6b2o$59b2o9bo9bo$57b2o2bo6bobo9bobo4bo$
57bob3o6b2o11b2o3b3o$49b2o8b2o24b5o10b2o$48bobo33b2o3b2o9bobo$48bo7bo
28b5o12bo$47b2o5b2o30b3o13b2o$55b2o13b2o7b2o6bo$70b2o7b2o2$51b2o45b2o$
52bo45bo$49b3o47b3o$49bo6b2o35b2o6bo$55bobo8b2o15b2o8bobo$55bo5b2o4bo
15bo4b2o5bo$54b2o5b2o3bo17bo3b2o5b2o$65bo19bo$61b5obo15bob5o$61bo4bobo
13bobo4bo$63bo2bobo13bobo2bo$62b2o3bo15bo3b2o!
Do we have an alternative catalyst that can replace an eater 1 in the period-47 pre-pulsar hassler and trigger a signal fizzle? That way we can construct new p47 oscillators.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » November 22nd, 2020, 7:29 am

After some effort, I managed to reduce the p7 supports for the p49 traffic light hassler:

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x = 105, y = 105, rule = B3/S23
55b2o$56bo$56bobo$54b2obobo$53bo2bo2bo$53b2o4bob2o$50b2obo4b2o2bo$51bo
bo2bo3bo$50bo2bobob3o$51b2o3bo$53b2o3b2o$51b2o6bo$50bo2bob4o$50b2obo$
53bo2b3o$53bob2o2bo$51b2ob2o2bobo$52bobo4bo$52bo2b4o$49b2obobo4b3o$49b
o2b4o2bo3bo$51bo4bobo2bo$52b3obobobo$54b2o2b2o$48bo8bo$48b3o7b2o$51bo
7bo$50bo2bo4bo$50b5o3bobo$48b2o6bobob3o$47bo2b2o4bobo4bo$48bobo5bob2ob
2o$47b2o2bo4bo2bobo$49bobo4b3o3bo$47b2o2b3o2bo2b3o$48bobo3b2ob2o$47bo
2b2o2bobo2bo$47b2o7bob2o$54bo$57b3o$55b3o2bo$30bo28b2o$5b2o13bo8bobobo
$5bo13bobo7bob2obo$7bo8bo2bo2bo5b2o4bo5b2o$3b4obob2o3bobobo3bob2o4b2ob
ob2obobo$2bo3bobobobobobobob4obob5obobobobo$3bo4bo3bobo3bo5bo8bobo3b2o
12b3o11b2obobobo$3obo2bobo2bob2o2bo2b2o6b6ob2o2bo12bobo11bob2ob2obo3b
2o$o2bo4bo3bo2b2obobo2bo11bo4bo6b3o3b3o15bo3bo3bo4b2o$3bobo4bo5b2ob2ob
2o4bo6b2obo8bobo18b2o3b2ob2obo5bo5b2o3bobo$4b5obob4o4bobo4b2o5bo12b3o
18bob3obobobo4bo4bo2bobobob2o$9bobo4b5obo5bo5bo35bo5bo5bob5o4bobo$6b2o
bobobo2bo4bo4bobobob3obo18b3o12bo5b2o4bobo4b4obob5o$6bobo3b2o5bo5bob2o
b2o3b2o18bobo8bob2o6bo4b2ob2ob2o5bo4bobo$19b2o4bo3bo3bo15b3o3b3o6bo4bo
11bo2bobob2o2bo3bo4bo2bo$24b2o3bob2ob2obo11bobo12bo2b2ob6o6b2o2bo2b2ob
o2bobo2bob3o$30bobobob2o11b3o12b2o3bobo8bo5bo3bobo3bo4bo$65bobobobob5o
bob4obobobobobobobo3bo$63bobob2obob2o4b2obo3bobobo3b2obob4o$63b2o5bo4b
2o5bo2bo2bo8bo$70bob2obo7bobo13bo$71bobobo8bo13b2o$44b2o28bo$44bo2b3o$
45b3o$50bo$45b2obo7b2o$45bo2bobo2b2o2bo$46b2ob2o3bobo$43b3o2bo2b3o2b2o
$42bo3b3o4bobo$43bobo2bo4bo2b2o$42b2ob2obo5bobo$41bo4bobo4b2o2bo$42b3o
bobo6b2o$44bobo3b5o$46bo4bo2bo$45bo7bo$45b2o7b3o$47bo8bo$45b2o2b2o$44b
obobob3o$43bo2bobo4bo$42bo3bo2b4o2bo$43b3o4bobob2o$46b4o2bo$45bo4bobo$
44bobo2b2ob2o$45bo2b2obo$46b3o2bo$51bob2o$46b4obo2bo$45bo6b2o$45b2o3b
2o$48bo3b2o$45b3obobo2bo$44bo3bo2bobo$42bo2b2o4bob2o$42b2obo4b2o$45bo
2bo2bo$45bobob2o$46bobo$48bo$48b2o!
This is based on Extrementhusiast's orginal supports.
wwei23 wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 6:50 pm
Another thing that I believe might be new is this P8 oscillator that involves a catalytic smiley reaction.
Nice! Here is a slight reduction:

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x = 23, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
8b2obob2o$11bo$8bo5bo$9b5o3$8b3ob3o5$8b2o3b2o$6b3ob3ob3o$5bo4bobo4bo$
6b5ob5o2$6b11o$5bo5bo5bo$4bobob2o3b2obobo$4bobobob3obobobo$3b2o2bo7bo
2b2o$5bobobo3bobobo$3b2obobo5bobob2o$obo3bobobobobobo3bobo$2obobobo2bo
bo2bobobob2o$3bo15bo$3bobo2bob3obo2bobo$2obob2ob2obob2ob2obob2o$2ob2ob
o2bo3bo2bob2ob2o$3bo2b4obob4o2bo$3bobo4b3o4bobo$4bob2o7b2obo$5bo3b5o3b
o$6b2o7b2o$8b7o$8bo2bo2bo!
JP21 wrote:
November 12th, 2020, 12:53 pm
Random p32 oscillator
I love this! I've always thought LOM had a lot of potential for hassling, similar to traffic lights and honey farms. It's nice to see another example.
GUYTU6J wrote:
November 21st, 2020, 9:24 am
Do we have an alternative catalyst that can replace an eater 1 in the period-47 pre-pulsar hassler and trigger a signal fizzle? That way we can construct new p47 oscillators.
I don't know of any way to get any sort of fizzle from that type of eater reaction, unless you count eater 2. The reactions in the p47 pre-pulsar shuttle don't seem very fizzle-friendly to me (I could always be wrong, of course).
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 22nd, 2020, 10:44 am

Sokwe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 7:29 am
After some effort, I managed to reduce the p7 supports for the p49 traffic light hassler:
Sokwe, that is amazing. I always find asymmetric oscillator searches to be the most fearsome, yet here you are, with these P7 asymmetric banana sparkers. Nice work.
Sokwe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 7:29 am
Nice! Here is a slight reduction:
I like how you completed this directly at P4, instead of tapering to P2, like I did. Nice work!
Sokwe wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 7:29 am
I don't know of any way to get any sort of fizzle from that type of eater reaction, unless you count eater 2. The reactions in the p47 pre-pulsar shuttle don't seem very fizzle-friendly to me (I could always be wrong, of course).
I wouldn't say it's impossible yet, because there exists a signal-injecting eater in Symbiosis. One that works purely in Life might exist as well. This example stems from AbhpzTa's reflector.

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x = 66, y = 42, rule = Symbiosis
15.BA.A.B$16.A.2A$21.BA2$17.BA.A.B$18.A.2A$23.BA2$19.BA.A.B$20.A.2A$
25.BA2$21.BA.A.B$22.A.2A2$64.2A$26.AB36.A$18.B3.A35.B3.A.A$18.2A2.3A
33.2A2.2A$18.2A4.B33.2A$14.BA38.BA4$15.2A38.2A$16.2A38.2A$15.A39.A3$
10.2A38.2A$11.2A38.2A$10.A39.A3$5.2A38.2A$6.2A38.2A$5.A39.A3$2A38.2A$
.2A38.2A$A39.A!
EDIT: Another P5 V sparker to add to the pile:

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x = 31, y = 114, rule = B3/S23
15bo$14bobo3$3b2ob2o6bobo6b2ob2o$4bobobob4obob4obobobo$4bo5b2obobobob
2o5bo$2bobob4o3b5o3b4obobo$bobobo2bo4bobobo4bo2bobobo$bobobo2bo13bo2bo
bobo$2bobo5bob2o3b2obo5bobo$4bob2o3b2ob3ob2o3b2obo$3b2obo6b5o6bob2o$5b
ob2o4b5o4b2obo$5bobob3o7b3obobo$4b2obo2b2o7b2o2bob2o$7bo2bobobobobobo
2bo$4b2ob4obobobobob4ob2o$3bobobo6bobo6bobobo$2bo2bo4bob2o3b2obo4bo2bo
$2bobobobo3bo5bo3bobobobo$b2ob2o8b3o8b2ob2o$o2bo2bo2bo3b5o3bo2bo2bo2bo
$bobob5o2b2o3b2o2b5obobo$2bobo8bo3bo8bobo$4bobo17bobo$3b2obo6b2ob2o6bo
b2o$2bo2bob3o3b2ob2o3b3obo2bo$2b2obobo5bo3bo5bobob2o$5b3o4bobobobo4b3o
$2b3o2b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o2b3o$bo3b2obo3bobobobo3bob2o3bo$bobo9bobobo9bobo$
2b3obo4bo7bo4bob3o$6bobo13bobo$4b2o2b3obob3obob3o2b2o$3bobobo3b3o3b3o
3bobobo$4bo2b2o3bobobobo3b2o2bo$5b2o4bo2bobo2bo4b2o$7b4o4bo4b4o$4bobo
3b3o2bo2b3o3bobo$4b2obo5bo3bo5bob2o$7bo2b2o3bo3b2o2bo$7bobob2o5b2obobo
$6b2obobo2bobo2bobob2o$7bo2bo9bo2bo$5bobo3b2o5b2o3bobo$3b3ob2o2b2o5b2o
2b2ob3o$2bo3bo5bob3obo5bo3bo$2b2o2bobo3bob3obo3bobo2b2o$5b2o3b2o7b2o3b
2o$7bobo3bo3bo3bobo$5b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o$5bo9bo9bo$2b2obo5bob2ob2obo5b
ob2o$2b2obob2ob2o7b2ob2obob2o$5bobobobob2ob2obobobobo$5bo3b2obo5bob2o
3bo$4b2ob3o11b3ob2o$3bo2bobo3b2o3b2o3bobo2bo$2bobobobo2b2o5b2o2bobobob
o$3bo2b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o2bo$4b2o3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3b2o$6b4obo3bo3bob4o$4b2o4b
4obob4o4b2o$3bo2bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo2bo$4bob2o4b3ob3o4b2obo$3b2obobobo9bo
bobob2o$7bo2b2o7b2o2bo$9b2o9b2o$5b5o3b2ob2o3b5o$4bo6bob2ob2obo6bo$4bo
2b2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2o2bo$3b2obo4bob2ob2obo4bob2o$6bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$6bo5bo
5bo5bo$7b2o13b2o$10bobob3obobo$11bo7bo$4b2o6b7o6b2o$5bo5bo3bo3bo5bo$2b
o2bobo2b2o7b2o2bobo2bo$2b4ob4o2b2ob2o2b4ob4o$6bo3bo9bo3bo$4bo2bob2o2bo
3bo2b2obo2bo$4b2obo3bo7bo3bob2o$5bobo2b2obo3bob2o2bobo$5bob2o13b2obo$
6bo3b4obob4o3bo$7bob2o3b3o3b2obo$4b3o5b3ob3o5b3o$4bo2b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob
2o2bo$7bo5b2ob2o5bo$5bobo4bo2bo2bo4bobo$5b2o5b2o3b2o5b2o$11bobo3bobo$
9b3o7b3o$8bo3b2o3b2o3bo$8b3o9b3o$11b9o$10bo3bobo3bo$10b2o2bobo2b2o$8b
2o11b2o$7bo2b5ob5o2bo$6bobobo9bobobo$6bobo2b4ob4o2bobo$7bobobo7bobobo$
8bo2bob5obo2bo$11bobobobobo$10b2obo3bob2o$12bob3obo$12bo5bo$13b5o$15bo
!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » November 22nd, 2020, 12:01 pm

Okay, I've got to admit that the idea is old...
Sokwe wrote:
April 18th, 2010, 4:40 am
The period-47 can be stabilized by four glider streams and a specialized eater:

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x = 89, y = 101, rule = B3/S23
obo83bobo$b2o83b2o$bo85bo9$13bo61bo$14bo59bo$12b3o59b3o10$24bo39bo$25b
2o35b2o$24b2o37b2o6$32b2o2b2o13b2o2b2o$29bo3bo2b2o13b2o2bo3bo$29b4o23b
4o2$29b2o27b2o$29b2o27b2o4$41bo5bo$39b2o7b2o$39b2ob2ob2ob2o$41bo5bo2$
36bo15bo$36bo15bo$35bo17bo$38bo11bo$37b2o11b2o2$37b2o11b2o$38bo11bo$
35bo17bo$36bo15bo$36bo15bo2$41bo5bo$39b2ob2ob2ob2o$39b2o7b2o$41bo5bo4$
29b2o27b2o$29b2o27b2o2$29b4o23b4o$29bo3bo2b2o13b2o2bo3bo$32b2o2b2o13b
2o2b2o6$24b2o37b2o$25b2o35b2o$24bo39bo10$12b3o59b3o$14bo59bo$13bo61bo
9$bo85bo$b2o83b2o$obo83bobo!
I couldn't get a grin out of either the pre-pulsar shuttle or the snark loop, otherwise a mechanism like this would work.

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x = 51, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
15bo$13b3o$12bo$6bo5b2o34bo$4bobo41bobo$5b2o41b2o$24b2o$13bo6b2o2bo2bo
$12bobo5bobobob2o$2o10b2o7bo2bo5b2o$2o22bob2o2bo$23b2obobobo$22bo5bob
2o$20b3ob2o2bo$19bo3bo2bobob2o$19b3o2b3obob2o2b2o$7b2o13b2o3bo6b2o3bo$
8bo4b2o6bo2b2o12bobo$5b3o6bo6b2obo14bobo$5bo5b3o10bo3bo2bob2o6bo$11bo
12b2o2b4ob2o6b2o2$30b5o$29bo5bo$29b2o2b2o$34bobob2o$33bo2b2obo$33b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 22nd, 2020, 12:19 pm

P10 partial

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$3b2obo4bob2o$3bo10bo$4b3o4b3o$7bo2bo$2b5o4b5o$2bo12bo$3bobo2b2o2b
obo$3o3bob2obo3b3o$o16bo2$6bob2obo$4b3ob2ob3o$8b2o$4b2o6b2o$6bo4bo$5b
8o!
Currently trying a completion at width-10 even symmetric (JLS was able to find the copperhead, so it's not that far-fetched.)
EDIT: Main mechanism:

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
3b2o8b2o$3bo2bo4bo2bo$4b2o6b2o$7b4o$2b5o4b5o$2bo2bob4obo2bo$3bo4b2o4bo
$3o12b3o$o6bo2bo6bo$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$5bo6bo2$4b2o6b2o!
EDIT 2: Just for fun, a way to actually use the beehives from a queen bee instead of just eating them:

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x = 24, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
3b3o12b3o$2bo3bo10bo3bo$bo5bo8bo5bo2$o7bo6bo7bo$o7bo6bo7bo2$bo5bo8bo5b
o$2bo3bo10bo3bo$3b3o12b3o5$4bo14bo$3bobo12bobo$3bobo12bobo$4bo14bo2$
19bo$18bobo$17bo3bo$18b3o$16b2o3b2o3$b2o3b2o$3b3o$2bo3bo$3bobo6b3o4bo$
4bo7bobo3bobo$12b3o3bobo$19bo2$19bo$12b3o3bobo$4bo7bobo3bobo$3bobo6b3o
4bo$2bo3bo$3b3o$b2o3b2o3$16b2o3b2o$18b3o$17bo3bo$18bobo$19bo2$4bo14bo$
3bobo12bobo$3bobo12bobo$4bo14bo5$3b3o12b3o$2bo3bo10bo3bo$bo5bo8bo5bo2$
o7bo6bo7bo$o7bo6bo7bo2$bo5bo8bo5bo$2bo3bo10bo3bo$3b3o12b3o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by otismo » November 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm

@ wwei23

your stuff looks a lot like Space Invaders

only trying to escape Prison Planet Earth

(going the wrong way-up-instead of down)

I really like your SpaceShip Avatar --

may I have the Pattern File, please ?

Thank You !

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 22nd, 2020, 6:04 pm

otismo wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
@ wwei23

your stuff looks a lot like Space Invaders

only trying to escape Prison Planet Earth
What stuff?
otismo wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
I really like your SpaceShip Avatar --

may I have the Pattern File, please ?

Thank You !

Cheers !

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x = 37, y = 15, rule = B3/S2
3bo7bo13bo7bo$2b2ob3o2b2obo9bob2o2b3ob2o$obo5bo2bob2o7b2obo2bo5bobo$2o5bo7bo
5bo7bo5b2o$6bo2bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo$5bo10bo3bo10bo$4bo3bo8bobo8bo3bo$3bo3b2o
6bobobobo6b2o3bo$3bo4bo6bo5bo6bo4bo$16b2ob2o$8b2o7bobo7b2o$9b4ob2o5b2ob4o$9bo
4bo3bo3bo4bo$10b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o$10b3o2bobobobo2b3o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 22nd, 2020, 6:52 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:04 pm
What stuff?
One of the phases of a queen bee does somewhat resemble a video game spaceship.

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
3bo$3bo$2bobo$b2ob2o$o5bo$3bo$2o3b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by otismo » November 22nd, 2020, 6:58 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 6:04 pm
otismo wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
@ wwei23

your stuff looks a lot like Space Invaders

only trying to escape Prison Planet Earth
What stuff?
otismo wrote:
November 22nd, 2020, 5:38 pm
I really like your SpaceShip Avatar --

may I have the Pattern File, please ?

Thank You !

Cheers !

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x = 37, y = 15, rule = B3/S2
3bo7bo13bo7bo$2b2ob3o2b2obo9bob2o2b3ob2o$obo5bo2bob2o7b2obo2bo5bobo$2o5bo7bo
5bo7bo5b2o$6bo2bo2bo3bo3bo3bo2bo2bo$5bo10bo3bo10bo$4bo3bo8bobo8bo3bo$3bo3b2o
6bobobobo6b2o3bo$3bo4bo6bo5bo6bo4bo$16b2ob2o$8b2o7bobo7b2o$9b4ob2o5b2ob4o$9bo
4bo3bo3bo4bo$10b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o$10b3o2bobobobo2b3o!
I meant recent patterns you have posted in this thread; oscillator cores, I believe.

Thank You for the Pattern File !

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 22nd, 2020, 8:55 pm

The P5 hyperfountain can non-trivially interact with this block-on-table pair:

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x = 27, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
12b2ob2o$12b2ob2o2$10b4ob4o$10bo2bobo2bo2$12b3o$10b7o$12b3o$7bo2b2o3b
2o2bo$5b3o3bo3bo3b3o$4bo4b2obobob2o4bo$5b5o2bobo2b5o$8bobo5bobo$5b2o4b
obobo4b2o$4bo2bo11bo2bo$3bob2o2bo7bo2b2obo$3bo5b2o2bo2b2o5bo$4bob2o4b
3o4b2obo$2bob3ob4o3b4ob3obo$bobo4bo3bobo3bo4bobo$bobo4bob2o3b2obo4bobo
$2b2obo2bobo5bobo2bob2o$4b2o2bobo5bobo2b2o$3o7b2o3b2o7b3o$o2b4o2bo2bob
o2bo2b4o2bo$bobo2b2o3b2ob2o3b2o2bobo$2o2b2obob2o2bo2b2obob2o2b2o$2bobo
bo3b2obob2o3bobobo$2bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$b2o3b2o4bobo4b2o3b2o$7bo3b2ob2o3b
o$7b2o9b2o$3b2o2bo11bo2b2o$3bo2b3o4bo4b3o2bo$2obo2bobo3bobo3bobo2bob2o
$bobobo2bo3bobo3bo2bobobo$bobob2o4b2ob2o4b2obobo$2obo2b2o2bo2bo2bo2b2o
2bob2o$3bo3b2o2bobobo2b2o3bo$3b2o2b5obob5o2b2o$13bo$10b2obob2o$11bobob
o$7b4o2bo2b4o$11b2ob2o$6bob3o2bo2b3obo$5bo5bobobo5bo$5bo3b2obobob2o3bo
$2b2obo4bo2bo2bo4bob2o$3bob2obobo5bobob2obo$3bo2bobob2o3b2obobo2bo$2b
2o5bo7bo5b2o$3bobo3bo7bo3bobo$3bobob3obo3bob3obobo$2b2obo4b2o3b2o4bob
2o$6b3o9b3o$8bob2o3b2obo$9bobo3bobo!
EDIT: The P5 heavyweight volcano can support this after all:

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x = 22, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
3bo14bo$3b3o10b3o$6bo8bo$3b2o2bo6bo2b2o$obo2bobo6bobo2bobo$2ob2obob2o
2b2obob2ob2o$3bo4bo4bo4bo$3bob2obo4bob2obo$4bo3b2o2b2o3bo$2bobob2o6b2o
bobo$2b2obobob4obobob2o$5bo3bo2bo3bo$5bob2o4b2obo$3b2ob2o6b2ob2o$4bobo
bo4bobobo$b3o2bob2o2b2obo2b3o$o3b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$b3o2b3ob2ob3o2b3o$
3bobo4b2o4bobo$5b2obo4bob2o$3bo2bobob2obobo2bo$3b2o2bobo2bobo2b2o4$10b
2o2$8b2o2b2o$8b2o2b2o2$10b2o4$3b2o2bobo2bobo2b2o$3bo2bobob2obobo2bo$5b
2obo4bob2o$3bobo4b2o4bobo$b3o2b3ob2ob3o2b3o$o3b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$b3o2b
ob2o2b2obo2b3o$4bobobo4bobobo$3b2ob2o6b2ob2o$5bob2o4b2obo$5bo3bo2bo3bo
$2b2obobob4obobob2o$2bobob2o6b2obobo$4bo3b2o2b2o3bo$3bob2obo4bob2obo$
3bo4bo4bo4bo$2ob2obob2o2b2obob2ob2o$obo2bobo6bobo2bobo$3b2o2bo6bo2b2o$
6bo8bo$3b3o10b3o$3bo14bo!
EDIT 2: And finally, to the already huge pile of V sparkers, have this one, which can be supported by pretty much any high-clearance P5 middleweight emulator.

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x = 59, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
14bo29bo$13bobo27bobo3$4bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo9bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo$9b4obob4o19b
4obob4o$3bo5b2obobobob2o5bo7bo5b2obobobob2o5bo$b3ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob3o3b
3ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob3o$o3bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bobo3bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bo
$2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2ob2ob2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2ob2o$bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bo
bo3bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bobo$bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo3bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo$2b
2o2bo6bobo6bo2b2o5b2o2bo6bobo6bo2b2o$4b2ob3o2bo3bo2b3ob2o9b2ob3o2bo3bo
2b3ob2o$4bo19bo9bo19bo$5bo5b2o3b2o5bo11bo5b2o3b2o5bo$2b3o19b3o5b3o19b
3o$2bo6b2o2bobo2b2o6bo5bo6b2o2bobo2b2o6bo$7b2o4bobo4b2o15b2o4bobo4b2o$
7bob2obo3bob2obo15bob2obo3bob2obo$8bo3bo3bo3bo17bo3bo3bo3bo$3bo2bobob
2o5b2obobo2bo7bo2bobob2o5b2obobo2bo$3b4obob2o5b2obob4o7b4obob2o5b2obob
4o$8b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o$3b4obo11bob4o7b4obo11bob4o$3bo2bobob2o5b2obobo2bo
7bo2bobob2o5b2obobo2bo$7bobobo5bobobo15bobobo5bobobo$5bobobo9bobobo11b
obobo9bobobo$4bobobo2b2o3b2o2bobobo9bobobo2b2o3b2o2bobobo$4bobobob3o3b
3obobobo9bobobob3o3b3obobobo$5bo2bobo3bo3bobo2bo11bo2bobo3bo3bobo2bo$
8b2o2bo3bo2b2o17b2o2bo3bo2b2o2$11bo5bo23bo5bo$9b3ob3ob3o19b3ob3ob3o$8b
o3b2ob2o3bo17bo3b2ob2o3bo$8b5o3b5o17bo2b2obob2o2bo$14bo20b2obobo7bobob
2o$10b2o2bo2b2o16bo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$9bo2bo3bo2bo17bo2bobobobobo2bo$8b
obo2b3o2bobo17b2obo5bob2o$8bo2b2o3b2o2bo19b2o5b2o$5b2obo3bobobo3bob2o
14b2o9b2o$5b2obobo7bobob2o14bo11bo$9b2obobobob2o14b2o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o
$12b2ob2o17bo2bobobobobobobobo2bo$9b3o2bo2b3o16b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o$9bo2b5o
2bo17bo13bo$11bo5bo18bo3b3o3b3o3bo$12b5o19b2o2bo2bobo2bo2b2o$14bo26b2o
3b2o!
The two P5 middleweight emulators that JLS showed me when I tabbed through the solutions list manually:

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x = 51, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
9bo30bo$7bo3bo26bo3bo2$6bo5bo24bo5bo$4b3ob3ob3o20b3ob3ob3o$3bo3b2ob2o
3bo18bo3b2ob2o3bo$3b5o3b5o18bo2b2obob2o2bo$9bo21b2obobo7bobob2o$5b2o2b
o2b2o17bo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo18bo2bobobobobo2bo$3bobo2b3o2bo
bo18b2obo5bob2o$3bo2b2o3b2o2bo20b2o5b2o$2obo3bobobo3bob2o15b2o9b2o$2ob
obo7bobob2o15bo11bo$4b2obobobob2o15b2o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o$7b2ob2o18bo2bo
bobobobobobobo2bo$4b3o2bo2b3o17b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o$4bo2b5o2bo18bo13bo$6bo
5bo19bo3b3o3b3o3bo$7b5o20b2o2bo2bobo2bo2b2o$9bo27b2o3b2o!
While typing up this edit, I found a small stator reduction.

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x = 59, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
14bo29bo$13bobo27bobo3$4bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo9bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo$9b4obob4o19b
4obob4o$3bo5b2obobobob2o5bo7bo5b2obobobob2o5bo$b3ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob3o3b
3ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob3o$o3bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bobo3bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bo
$2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2ob2ob2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2ob2o$bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bo
bo3bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bobo$bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo3bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo$2b
2o2bo6bobo6bo2b2o5b2o2bo6bobo6bo2b2o$4b2ob3o2bo3bo2b3ob2o9b2ob3o2bo3bo
2b3ob2o$4bo19bo9bo19bo$5bo5b2o3b2o5bo11bo5b2o3b2o5bo$2b3o19b3o5b3o19b
3o$2bo6b2o2bobo2b2o6bo5bo6b2o2bobo2b2o6bo$7b2o4bobo4b2o15b2o4bobo4b2o$
7bob2obo3bob2obo15bob2obo3bob2obo$8bo3bo3bo3bo17bo3bo3bo3bo$6bobob2o5b
2obobo13bobob2o5b2obobo$4b3obob2o5b2obob3o9b3obob2o5b2obob3o$3bo4b2o9b
2o4bo7bo4b2o9b2o4bo$4b3obo11bob3o9b3obo11bob3o$6bobob2o5b2obobo13bobob
2o5b2obobo$7bobobo5bobobo15bobobo5bobobo$5bobobo9bobobo11bobobo9bobobo
$4bobobo2b2o3b2o2bobobo9bobobo2b2o3b2o2bobobo$4bobobob3o3b3obobobo9bob
obob3o3b3obobobo$5bo2bobo3bo3bobo2bo11bo2bobo3bo3bobo2bo$8b2o2bo3bo2b
2o17b2o2bo3bo2b2o2$11bo5bo23bo5bo$9b3ob3ob3o19b3ob3ob3o$8bo3b2ob2o3bo
17bo3b2ob2o3bo$8b5o3b5o17bo2b2obob2o2bo$14bo20b2obobo7bobob2o$10b2o2bo
2b2o16bo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$9bo2bo3bo2bo17bo2bobobobobo2bo$8bobo2b3o2bob
o17b2obo5bob2o$8bo2b2o3b2o2bo19b2o5b2o$5b2obo3bobobo3bob2o14b2o9b2o$5b
2obobo7bobob2o14bo11bo$9b2obobobob2o14b2o3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o$12b2ob2o17b
o2bobobobobobobobo2bo$9b3o2bo2b3o16b2o2b3o3b3o2b2o$9bo2b5o2bo17bo13bo$
11bo5bo18bo3b3o3b3o3bo$12b5o19b2o2bo2bobo2bo2b2o$14bo26b2o3b2o!
Edit 3: Oh my god. Compare this new V sparker to the rest of the pile. Not only is it so small, but it somehow manages to beat most of its behemoth-sized relatives in terms of orthogonal clearance. Only one of these can do better in any way, and that's in diagonal clearance. Wow. Just wow.

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x = 199, y = 137, rule = B3/S23
13bo29bo31bo39bo38bo29bo$12bobo27bobo29bobo37bobo36bobo27bobo$6b2o11b
2o13b2o15b2o$6bobo9bobo12bo2bo13bo2bo$3b2obo3b7o3bob2o10b2o6bobo6b2o
16b3o2bobo2b3o21b2ob2o6bobo6b2ob2o16bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo9bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo$
3b2obo3b2obob2o3bob2o14b4obob4o23b2obob2o25bobobob4obob4obobobo22b4obo
b4o19b4obob4o$6bo2bob5obo2bo13b3ob2obobobob2ob3o15bob2obobobob2obo21bo
5b2obobobob2o5bo16bo5b2obobobob2o5bo7bo5b2obobobob2o5bo$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o
9bo6b2o3b2o6bo14bo3b2o3b2o3bo19bobob4o3b5o3b4obobo12b3ob2o3bob5obo3b2o
b3o3b3ob2o3bob5obo3b2ob3o$3bo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bo9bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo14bo
4bo3bo4bo18bobobo2bo4bobobo4bo2bobobo10bo3bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bobo3bo
2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo3bo$4bob2o3b5o3b2obo8b2ob2o4bo5bo4b2ob2o14bo2b5o2bo
20bobobo2bo13bo2bobobo10b2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b2ob2ob2ob2o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b
2ob2o$b3o2bo3bo5bo3bo2b3o6bo2bo2bob2o3b2obo2bo2bo13bo3b2obob2o3bo19bob
o5bob2o3b2obo5bobo12bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bobo3bobo2bo4bo5bo4bo2bobo$bo2b4o
2b7o2b4o2bo4bo2b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o2bo11b4ob2ob2ob4o21bob2o3b2ob3ob2o3b
2obo14bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo3bo2b3o3b4ob4o3b3o2bo$3bo5bobo3bobo5bo6b2obo
2b3o9b3o2bob2o10bo3bo7bo3bo19b2obo6b5o6bob2o14b2o2bo6bobo6bo2b2o5b2o2b
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7bo5b2o2bo7bo2b2o5bo13bobobo6bobo6bobobo19b2o4bobo4b2o15b2o4bobo4b2o$
4b4o3bo3bo3b4o8b2obobob2o2bobo2b2obobob2o8bo4bobob5obobo4bo15bo2bo4bob
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2b2o5b2o2bo12bo3bo5b2ob2o5bo3bo16b2ob3o11b3ob2o$8bob7obo15b2obob2o5b2o
bob2o10bo2b3o5bobo5b3o2bo15bo2bobo3b2o3b2o3bobo2bo$9bo7bo17bobo2bo2bo
2bo2bobo10b2obo4b3obobob3o4bob2o13bobobobo2b2o5b2o2bobobobo$10b3ob3o
18bob3o7b3obo13bo4bo9bo4bo17bo2b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o2bo$12bobo21bo4b5o4bo14b
2obobo3bobo3bobob2o18b2o3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3b2o$37b3obobobob3o13bobo2bobo3b
obo3bobo2bobo18b4obo3bo3bob4o$39bobobobobo15b2o2b2ob3obobob3ob2o2b2o
16b2o4b4obob4o4b2o$40bo5bo23b2o7b2o22bo2bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo2bo$41b2ob2o
20bob2obo7bob2obo19bob2o4b3ob3o4b2obo$42bobo21b2ob2obobobobob2ob2o18b
2obobobo9bobobob2o$42bobo25bobo5bobo26bo2b2o7b2o2bo$43bo26bo9bo28b2o9b
2o$73bo3bo27b5o3b2ob2o3b5o$72b2o3b2o25bo6bob2ob2obo6bo$69b2obo5bob2o
22bo2b2o2b2ob3ob2o2b2o2bo$69b2ob2o3b2ob2o21b2obo4bob2ob2obo4bob2o$67bo
2bobo5bobo2bo22bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo$67b2obob3ob3obob2o22bo5bo5bo5bo$68bob
2o7b2obo24b2o13b2o$68bobob2obob2obobo27bobob3obobo$67b2obob3ob3obob2o
27bo7bo$66bo3b2o3bo3b2o3bo19b2o6b7o6b2o$66b2obo11bob2o20bo5bo3bo3bo5bo
$67bob4o5b4obo18bo2bobo2b2o7b2o2bobo2bo$67bo2bob7obo2bo18b4ob4o2b2ob2o
2b4ob4o$66b2o3bo7bo3b2o21bo3bo9bo3bo$65bo2b6o3b6o2bo18bo2bob2o2bo3bo2b
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2b2obo3bob2o2bobo$68b2o4bobo4b2o22bob2o13b2obo$65b2obob2o7b2obob2o20bo
3b4obob4o3bo$64bobo4b3obob3o4bobo20bob2o3b3o3b2obo$64bo2bob2o9b2obo2bo
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3o7b3o$70bob2obob2obo27bo3b2o3b2o3bo$67b2o6bo6b2o24b3o9b3o$66bobob2o3b
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66bo2b2o9b2o2bo$67b2o4b2ob2o4b2o$69b2o9b2o$69bob2o5b2obo$66b2obo11bob
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ob2o$71bobo3bobo$70bo2bobobo2bo$70b2o2bobo2b2o$75bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » November 23rd, 2020, 6:27 pm

P4 with a long strictly volatile component:

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x = 17, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo2$6b2ob2o2$5b2o3b2o$5b2o3b2o$3bo9bo2$4b2o5b2o$4b2o5b2o$3o11b
3o$3o11b3o$bobo9bobo$2bo5bo5bo$2b4o5b4o$4bo7bo$4bo3bo3bo$5b3ob3o$5b2o
3b2o2$5b3ob3o$3bobo5bobo$3bobo5bobo$b2o11b2o$2bobo7bobo$2b3o7b3o$3bob
2o3b2obo$4b3o3b3o2$2b5obob5o$2bo4b3o4bo$3b2o2b3o2b2o$b2ob3obob3ob2o$7b
3o$4b9o$b2obo7bob2o$3b3o5b3o$4bo7bo$3bob2o3b2obo$b3obobobobob3o$o4bob
obobo4bo$ob2obobobobob2obo$bob2o7b2obo$8bo$2b5obob5o$2bo2b2o3b2o2bo$3b
obob3obobo$2b2o9b2o$o3b2o5b2o3bo$3o2b3ob3o2b3o$3bo2bobobo2bo$2o5b3o5b
2o$o2bobo5bobo2bo$bobo2b2ob2o2bobo$2bobobo3bobobo$obobo2bobo2bobobo$2o
bobobobobobob2o$3bobobobobobo$3b2o3bo3b2o!
(Mostly just a "proof-of-concept" stabilization of a partial so as to have something to put into Oscillizer, which is why I didn't bother to reduce it. For reference, here's the oscillizer output)
Oscillizer output for a p4 with a large strictly volatile segment.
Oscillizer output for a p4 with a large strictly volatile segment.
Screen Shot 2020-11-23 at 4.16.28 PM.png (46.73 KiB) Viewed 4707 times
This is with a new, unreleased STRICT_VOL option for osrc. Even thought this partial appears longer than Bullet51's longest partial across all symmetries at higher widths than this, I suspect their lifesrc modification measures partial length differently so this doesn't necessarily invalidate their work. As soon as I finish internal-width-9 searches (osrc's max) I may try some more involved partial manipulation to find new corners of the search space accessible this way. (That is, if wwei doesn't find any results before then with their strict-volatility mod to WLS...)

EDIT: As an update, I did the even, gutter, and asymmetric searches and they all returned no comparable results. I also tried extending the partial asymmetrically where it splits, as well as switching between odd and gutter symmetry, and nothing looks promising — so I'm starting to be more convinced of Bullet51's results, even though osrc isn't fully capable of reproducing them because of its width limitation. I'm hoping wwei's WLS modification will be able to get farther, but I don't have a Windows machine so I can't try it — and that same modification doesn't seem like it'll work for JLS due to its internal workings being slightly different. (Unrelatedly, I might have figured out a way to restrict JLS to searching for phoenixes only — but I need to do more investigation and learn a bit of Java before that comes to fruition, I think.)
Last edited by praosylen on November 23rd, 2020, 9:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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