Symbiosis

[MathAndCode]

Here's a p41 sparker.

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
2.2A.B$.A2.A.B$BA3.A$7.B$4.3A$5.3A$5.2A.2AB$7.A$7.A!

Edit: Here's a p93 sparker with the same engine.

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
8.2A.B$7.A2.A.B$6.B2A2.A$13.B$9.2A.A$10.A$AB12.2A$14.2A$16.B!

Another edit: Can this failed gun be fixed?

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x = 17, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
AB3$3.2A$2.BA4.B$3.A3.A2.A$3.2A.2A.A.A.A$3.B2.A2.2A.2A.AB$6.A4.2A$5.B
2A2.2A2.A$6.B3.A.A.AB$8.A3.2A$7.B.AB.B!

Yet another edit: Here's a p190 sparker.

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x = 14, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
13.B$12.A$2.AB8.AB$.B$10.AB$.A.2A$B2A.2A3.A$.B2.A4.AB$3.A3.2A$2.B.AB.B!

Fourth edit: Here's a p35 sparker.

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
BAB$7.2A$2A4.2A.AB$A.A4.A$.A6.A$B5.A.AB$2.A3.2A$.B.AB.B!

Fifth edit: Here is a p228 double Herschel factory.

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x = 39, y = 58, rule = Symbiosis
34.B$34.2A$34.A.AB$35.2A$28.B.A2.A$29.2A.2A3.AB$28.B4.A$27.B.4A$26.2A
B.2A6$23.2A$23.2A$2A$2A23$2A$2A24.2A$25.2A$26.A6$26.2AB$27.B.A$28.B$29.
A7.AB$28.B$35.2A$33.2A.AB$34.2A$34.B!

Sixth edit: Here is an adjustable-period LWSS shuttle.

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x = 11, y = 34, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B8$6.3A$6.A2.A$6.A$6.A$7.A.A5$B
$.A$B$.A7.AB$B$8.A$8.AB$3.B2.2A$3.A2.B!

[wwei23]

Another edit: Can this failed gun be fixed?

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x = 17, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
AB3$3.2A$2.BA4.B$3.A3.A2.A$3.2A.2A.A.A.A$3.B2.A2.2A.2A.AB$6.A4.2A$5.B
2A2.2A2.A$6.B3.A.A.AB$8.A3.2A$7.B.AB.B!

A significant portion changes between the 20 ticks, I'm not sure how to fix this.

Fifth edit: Here is a p228 double Herschel factory.

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x = 39, y = 58, rule = Symbiosis
34.B$34.2A$34.A.AB$35.2A$28.B.A2.A$29.2A.2A3.AB$28.B4.A$27.B.4A$26.2A
B.2A6$23.2A$23.2A$2A$2A23$2A$2A24.2A$25.2A$26.A6$26.2AB$27.B.A$28.B$29.
A7.AB$28.B$35.2A$33.2A.AB$34.2A$34.B!

Can a sparker delete the pond and free the LWSS?

Sixth edit: Here is an adjustable-period LWSS shuttle.

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x = 11, y = 34, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B8$6.3A$6.A2.A$6.A$6.A$7.A.A5$B
$.A$B$.A7.AB$B$8.A$8.AB$3.B2.2A$3.A2.B!

Wow!

[MathAndCode]

Can a sparker delete the pond and free the LWSS?

I'm not sure. I tried using stable catalysts but not sparkers.

Wow!

Here are more variants.

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x = 15, y = 41, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B12$5.A.A$8.A$8.A$5.A2.A$6.3A8$
14.B$13.A$14.B$4.BA7.A$14.B$6.A$5.BA$7.2A2.B$8.B2.A!

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x = 14, y = 35, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B6$5.A.A$8.A$8.A$5.A2.A$6.3A8$13.
B$12.A$13.B$3.BA7.A$13.B$5.A$4.BA$6.2A2.B$7.B2.A!

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x = 14, y = 36, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B8$5.A.A$8.A$8.A$5.A2.A$6.3A7$13.
B$12.A$13.B$3.BA7.A$13.B$5.A$4.BA$6.2A2.B$7.B2.A!

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x = 13, y = 38, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B10$5.A.A$8.A$8.A$5.A2.A$6.3A7$
12.B$11.A$12.B$2.BA7.A$12.B$4.A$3.BA$5.2A2.B$6.B2.A!

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x = 13, y = 43, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B$3.B2.2A$8.AB$8.A$B$.A7.AB$B$.A$B16$5.A.A$8.A$8.A$5.A2.A$6.3A6$
12.B$11.A$12.B$2.BA7.A$12.B$4.A$3.BA$5.2A2.B$6.B2.A!

[wwei23]

I'm not sure. I tried using stable catalysts but not sparkers.

I feel like it's worth a try, since 228/4=57 and this is P57:

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
9.4B$8.B4.B$8.B4.B$9.4B5$3.2B$3.2B$B4.2B$4B.2B$.BAB3.2A$2A.BA4.A$6.BA
B!

[MathAndCode]

I'm not sure. I tried using stable catalysts but not sparkers.

I feel like it's worth a try, since 228/4=57 and this is P57:

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
9.4B$8.B4.B$8.B4.B$9.4B5$3.2B$3.2B$B4.2B$4B.2B$.BAB3.2A$2A.BA4.A$6.BA
B!

Yes, it works. Thank you for the idea.

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x = 24, y = 26, rule = Symbiosis
.A.2B$.A2B$2.AB$.3B.B$.A3.B$5.B$B2.2B$A.A$B.A$.A8$13.A$14.B$13.A$14.B
7.BA$13.A.3B2.2B$16.B.4B$16.3B2.BA$19.2B$19.A!

[ENORMOUS_NAME]

gun for the gun collection

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x = 56, y = 106, rule = Symbiosis
40.2A.2A.2A$40.2A.2A.2A3$40.2B2.2B$40.2B2.3B$40.2B2.2B$42.B.B9$43.2B$
43.2B2$37.B$36.AB$33.A$33.B2$39.B$32.3B2.AB.BA$34.B4.B14.A$33.B20.B$
53.B.B$54.B$54.A$5.B$3.AB.BA$5.B$12.2B$9.B.B2.B.B$10.2B3.B2$4.2B44.B$
3.B.B42.AB.BA$4.B5.B39.B$.A7.3B$.B7.3B$B.B12.2B$.B12.B.B$.A$14.AB.BA$
16.B2$22.B$22.A$18.BA$18.B2$11.2B$11.2B20$18.A$3.B13.AB$3.A6$7.B$7.A
11$26.B$24.B.B$25.2B5$32.2B$32.B.B$34.B$34.2B!

[bubblegum]

gun for the gun collection

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x = 56, y = 106, rule = Symbiosis
40.2A.2A.2A$40.2A.2A.2A3$40.2B2.2B$40.2B2.3B$40.2B2.2B$42.B.B9$43.2B$
43.2B2$37.B$36.AB$33.A$33.B2$39.B$32.3B2.AB.BA$34.B4.B14.A$33.B20.B$
53.B.B$54.B$54.A$5.B$3.AB.BA$5.B$12.2B$9.B.B2.B.B$10.2B3.B2$4.2B44.B$
3.B.B42.AB.BA$4.B5.B39.B$.A7.3B$.B7.3B$B.B12.2B$.B12.B.B$.A$14.AB.BA$
16.B2$22.B$22.A$18.BA$18.B2$11.2B$11.2B20$18.A$3.B13.AB$3.A6$7.B$7.A
11$26.B$24.B.B$25.2B5$32.2B$32.B.B$34.B$34.2B!

Reminder: deleting Bs directly with Symbiosis catalysts (a red-yellow domino with birthblocking) is better than passing it through Conduit 1 and running it into a wall. Also that example glider and eater are misplaced.

[ENORMOUS_NAME]

Reminder: deleting Bs directly with Symbiosis catalysts (a red-yellow domino with birthblocking) is better than passing it through Conduit 1 and running it into a wall. Also that example glider and eater are misplaced.

oops
im not quite smart

[wwei23]

I haven't been able to contribute to this thread as much as I want to lately, because my school went full in-person, but have a P26 glider gun.

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
7.B$7.A3$8.A$.B2A5.B$2.2A$2.A$BA!

[MathAndCode]

Here's a p284 LWSS gun.

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x = 12, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
AB10$.A$2.B$.A$2.B6.2BA$.A6.2B$9.B$7.B.BA$7.2B$7.A!

Edit: Here is a p256 LWSS gun.

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x = 12, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
.B$AB10$.A$2.B$.A$2.B7.BA$.A7.B$8.2B$9.BA$7.2B$7.A!

Another edit: Here is a p781 oscillator.

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x = 22, y = 31, rule = Symbiosis
10.A$10.B8$21.B$20.A$BA$A.A$3B$3B$A$BA6$3.A$4.B$3.A$4.B7.BA$3.A6.2B$11.
B$9.B.BA$9.2B$9.A!

[wwei23]

This isn't how "boring oscillators" usually work.

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x = 17, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
4.B.A$B.2A.3A$.2A.A3.A$6.2A2.A$4.2B.A2.2A$3.2A3.A.B2A$8.B4.B$10.A4.BA
$7.A3.4B$6.B$12.2A$12.2A!

[MathAndCode]

Here is a p456 oscillator.

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x = 14, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
BA$A.A$3B$3B$A$BA6$3.A$4.B$3.A$4.B7.BA$3.A7.B$10.2B$11.BA$9.2B$9.A!

Suppressing the boat yields a p456 LWSS gun.

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x = 15, y = 24, rule = Symbiosis
14.B$14.A3$BA$A.A$3B$3B$A$BA6$3.A$4.B$3.A$4.B7.BA$3.A$7.2B2.B$8.2B.BA
$9.2B$9.A!

Edit: Here is a p228 LWSS gun.

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x = 14, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2.B$.2B$A$BA6$3.A$4.B$3.A$4.B7.BA$3.A$10.2B$8.2B.BA$9.2B$9.A!

Another edit: I reduced a catalyst.

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
.A$.B$.B$A7$2.A$3.B$2.A$3.B7.BA$2.A7.B$9.2B$10.BA$8.2B$8.A!

Yet another edit: Here is a p486 oscillator.

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x = 21, y = 121, rule = Symbiosis
13.A$12.2B$10.AB$11.2B$11.B2.3B2.A$9.A2B2.3B.B$4.A2B8.2B2.A$5.2B6.B.B
2.B$14.B4.A6$14.2B$14.2B4.A$20.B88$B$A7$.A3.2B$2.B11.2B$.A6.2B4.2BA$2.
B2.2B.3BA$.A4.B.B$6.2B.B$6.2B.BA$7.2B$7.A!

Here is a p36 LWSS gun.

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
.BA3$A$.B$A$.B7.BA$A$8.B$6.B.BA$6.2B$6.A!

[wwei23]

Here is a p36 LWSS gun.

That gives me hope.

[MathAndCode]

That gives me hope.

I'm trying to find more low-period LWSS guns. Here's one at p28.

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$2.B2$A$.B$A$.B7.BA$A6.2B$8.B$5.B2.BA$6.2B$6.A!

Edit: Here's a p51 gun.

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x = 11, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$.2B$.2B2$A$.B$A$.B7.BA$A6.2B$8.B$6.B.BA$6.2B$6.A!

[ENORMOUS_NAME]

I accidentally p59 sparker:

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = Symbiosis
.A$.B$B.B$.B$.A3.B.B$5.B.B$A$.B$A.B$.B7.BA$A6.B$5.2B.B$5.B2.BA$6.2B$6.
A!

edit:p142 lwss

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x = 25, y = 26, rule = Symbiosis
5$14.A$15.B$14.B.B2$13.A2.2B$14.B2.B$13.A.3B3.B$14.5B3.BA$13.A5.2B$19.
B.B$18.B2.BA$19.2B$19.A!

[Sarah]

I spent way too much time on this

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x = 31, y = 143, rule = Symbiosis
20.2A$20.2A24$2A$2A15$20.B$19.3B$18.2B.B$18.3B$19.2B79$28.A$28.B$28.2B
$30.A$29.AB6$24.2B.A$23.B.2B$22.3B2.A$17.AB3.3B.B$22.2B3.A$19.B3.2B$18.
AB$20.2B$21.A!

[bubblegum]

I spent way too much time on this

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x = 31, y = 143, rule = Symbiosis
20.2A$20.2A24$2A$2A15$20.B$19.3B$18.2B.B$18.3B$19.2B79$28.A$28.B$28.2B
$30.A$29.AB6$24.2B.A$23.B.2B$22.3B2.A$17.AB3.3B.B$22.2B3.A$19.B3.2B$18.
AB$20.2B$21.A!

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve but I can reduce that:

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x = 16, y = 20, rule = Symbiosis
6.AB2$14.A$14.B$15.A7$AB11.A$12.B$13.A$3.AB7.B$5.B7.A$5.2B$4.AB$6.2B$
7.A!

[Sarah]

I was trying to trace a 1 with the glider and LWSS

[wwei23]

I was trying to trace a 1 with the glider and LWSS

Did you come up with that gun?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Did you come up with that gun?

I thought it was the p142 LWSS gun, but upon closer inspection, it isn't.

[ENORMOUS_NAME]

p456 oscillatoric object

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x = 102, y = 186, rule = Symbiosis
31$61.2A$61.2A11$52.B$50.2B$51.2B4$37.BA3$39.2B$39.2B$40.A74$61.B$60.
3B$59.2B.B$59.3B$60.2B23$69.A$69.B$69.2B$71.A$70.AB6$68.A$67.B$68.A$58.
AB7.B$60.B3.B3.A$60.B5.B$59.AB$61.2B$62.A!

also i think that was the p228 lwss gun.

[MathAndCode]

Here is a p276 oscillator.

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x = 14, y = 43, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$3.2B.2B$.AB.B.B.B$2.B.2B2.B$3.B3.2B.A$AB3.2B2.B$5.B.B2.A$2.B2.B2.
2B$10.A2$13.A$12.2B$12.2B18$2B$2B$A$8.3B$3.A4.3B$4.B4.B$3.A4.2B$4.4B2.
B.BA$3.A.2B.B$5.2B4.B$8.B2.BA$9.2B$9.A!

[wwei23]

Here is a p276 oscillator.

Can the ship be bonked with a twin bees shuttle or its monomer?

[MathAndCode]

Can the ship be bonked with a twin bees shuttle or its monomer?

I've tried a few methods so far, but it's difficult because the block-like catalyst tends to get in the way.



Edit:

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x = 47, y = 65, rule = Symbiosis
34.B$33.A.A$34.A$46.B$45.A$45.2A$25.B.A$26.2A5.A.A$33.A.A8.2A$33.3A8.
2A9$43.B$37.2A3.A.B$37.2A3.2A2$30.A$29.A$29.3A8$32.3A5.3A$32.3A5.3A$33.
2A5.2A$35.A3.A$33.A2.A.A2.A$32.A3.A.A3.A$29.A3.A2.A.A2.A3.A$28.B.A2.3A
3.3A2.A.B$29.A3.2A5.2A3.A$33.2A5.2A$33.2A5.2A3$7.A$6.A$6.3A5$2A$2A$B6.
A$6.2A$3.B.A.2A$4.2A$3.B.A$4.2A6.AB$3.B.A$11.A$11.AB$9.2A$9.B!

[wwei23]

I've tried a few methods so far, but it's difficult because the block-like catalyst tends to get in the way.

You mean the spark bonking the catalyst? Well, no worries, because I did find a stabilization using this, which can reach around the catalyst.

Edit 9: LUDICROUSLY strong P69 sparker:

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$2.B$4.A.B$2.A.2A$B2A5.B$3.2A2.A$4.A2.A2.B$5.A4.A!

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x = 32, y = 21, rule = Symbiosis
6.BA$20.2B$4.B15.2B$5.2A$2.B2.A.A13.A.A$3.2A16.A2.A$3.A20.A$A19.A2.A$
.B.A14.A4.A$4.A13.3A$4.B13.B6.A$24.2A$21.B.A.2A$22.2A$21.B.A$22.2A6.A
B$21.B.A$29.A$29.AB$27.2A$27.B!