Maybe.
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14.2A$14.A$2A10.A.A$.A10.2A$.A.A$2.2A2$7.2C$7.2C.A$11.A$5.D2.2D2.A$6.
3D$7.D6$5.3D$7.D$6.3D!
Maybe.
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x = 16, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
14.2A$14.A$2A10.A.A$.A10.2A$.A.A$2.2A2$7.2C$7.2C.A$11.A$5.D2.2D2.A$6.
3D$7.D6$5.3D$7.D$6.3D!
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x = 41, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$19.2A8$2.D$D.D$3D9.2C13.3C$D11.2C13.C.C$27.C.C$34.2A.A$34.2A.3A
$40.A$34.2A.3A$35.A.A$35.A.A$36.A!
I have added that to (my draft of) the Elementary Conduits Collection because I'm pretty sure that it's at least connectable with a periodic conduit. Speaking of that, I noticed that one of the G->H conduits has unnecessary still lives.Extrementhusiast wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 7:59 pmPR*91H, not currently able to connect from anything stable that I examined, although not entirely unreasonable, either:
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x = 103, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
49.4B$50.4B$51.4B$52.4B23.2A$.B51.4B22.A$3B51.4B18.BA.A$4B31.A19.4B
14.2A.B2A$.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$2.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B
$3.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$4.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$5.4B
2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$6.4B3.3B23.38B25.B$7.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$8.9B
19.17B8.18B21.3B$9.3BC5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$10.3BC38B12.14B20.4B
$11.3C29B.7B12.16B18.4B$11.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$9.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B
3.6B.BA.A13.4B$9.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B$8.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.
6B8.A9.7B4.2A10.4B$7.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B$6.A.AB
2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B$6.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.3B14.A3.11B11.4B$5.
2A6.4B6.8B17.4B11.2A3.4B2E5B10.4B$15.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B2E5B9.4B$15.A9.
4B21.A18.10B8.4B$16.3A5.6B21.3A16.9B7.4B$18.A4.8B22.A16.9B6.4B$22.4B
2.4B38.8B6.4B$21.4B4.4B38.8B4.4B$20.4B6.4B38.6B4.4B$19.4B8.4B37.6B3.
4B$18.4B10.4B36.6B2.4B$17.4B12.4B34.7B.4B$16.4B14.4B33.6B.4B$15.4B16.
4B33.9B$14.4B18.4B32.8B$13.4B20.4B30.8B$12.4B22.4B20.A8.7B$11.4B24.4B
19.3A6.6B$10.4B26.4B21.A4.7B$9.4B28.4B19.2A4.7B17.2A$8.4B30.4B18.4B.
8B17.A$7.4B32.4B19.11B14.BA.A$6.4B34.4B17.12B11.2A.B2A$5.4B36.4B16.
12B10.B2A2B$4.4B38.4B15.11B12.4B$3.4B40.4B13.9B13.6B$2.4B42.4B9.2B.
10B.B7.B2.5B2.B$.4B44.4B7.18B3.6B2E2B.B2A$4B46.4B3.30B2E4B2A$3B48.40B
.2B$2B50.39B$B52.39B$54.38B$56.25B2.B.6B$57.19B3.B6.5B$57.20B9.6B$57.
20B9.6B$61.9B2.5B2A7.7B$62.4B3.2B5.A2BA6.2B3D2B$68.B2AB4.ABAB5.3BD4B$
69.2A6.A4B3.2B3D3B$79.3B2.8B$79.4B2.2B2E3B$80.4B.2B2E5B$81.13B$79.16B
$79.17B$79.16B$79.15B$80.13B!
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x = 103, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory
49.4B$50.4B$51.4B$52.4B23.2A$.B51.4B22.A$3B51.4B18.BA.A$4B31.A19.4B14.
2A.B2A$.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$2.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$3.
4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$4.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$5.4B2.7B
21.8B.20B.7B$6.4B3.3B23.38B25.B$7.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$8.9B19.17B
8.18B21.3B$9.3BC5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$10.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$11.3C
29B.7B12.16B18.4B$11.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$9.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.B
A.A13.4B$9.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$8.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.
A9.7B4.2A10.4B4.2B$7.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$6.
A.AB2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$6.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.3B14.A3.11B
11.4B4.4B$5.2A6.4B6.8B17.4B11.2A3.4B2E5B10.4B4.4B$15.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B
2E5B9.4B4.4B$15.A9.4B21.A18.10B8.4B4.4B$16.3A5.6B21.3A16.9B7.4B4.4B$18.
A4.8B22.A16.9B6.4B4.4B$22.4B2.4B38.8B6.4B4.4B$21.4B4.4B38.8B4.4B4.4B$
20.4B6.4B38.6B4.4B4.4B$19.4B8.4B37.6B3.4B4.4B$18.4B10.4B36.6B2.4B4.4B
$17.4B12.4B34.7B.4B4.4B$16.4B14.4B33.6B.4B4.4B$15.4B16.4B33.9B4.4B$14.
4B18.4B32.8B4.4B$13.4B20.4B30.8B4.4B$12.4B22.4B29.7B4.4B$11.4B24.4B28.
6B4.4B$10.4B26.4B26.7B3.4B$9.4B28.4B25.7B2.4B11.2A$8.4B30.4B19.3B.8B.
4B12.A$7.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$6.4B34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$5.4B36.4B7.B
2.20B8.B2A2B$4.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$3.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$2.4B42.4B2.24B5.B
2.5B2.B$.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E2B.B2A$4B46.37B2E4B2A$3B48.40B.2B$2B50.39B$
B52.39B$54.38B$56.25B2.B.6B$57.17B5.B6.5B$57.16B13.6B$57.16B13.6B$58.
13B15.5B$59.9B18.2B3D$61.6B20.BDB$63.4B20.3D$64.B23.B!
If you're following it with an independent conduit, then you can remove another eater without impacting the recovery time:MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 9:05 pmSpecifically, one can remove a fishhook, a block, and a loaf, and this allows the Fx119 to be follwed by an independent conduit.
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x = 216, y = 184, rule = LifeHistory
C$.2C$2C107$162.4B$163.4B$164.4B$165.4B23.2A$114.B51.4B22.A$113.3B51.
4B18.BA.A$113.4B31.A19.4B14.2A.B2A$114.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A
2B$115.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$116.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$
117.4B3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$118.4B2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$119.4B3.3B
23.38B25.B$120.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$121.9B19.17B8.18B21.3B$122.3B
C5B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$123.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$124.3C29B.7B12.16B
18.4B$124.14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$122.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A13.4B$
122.4B2E27B2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$121.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.A9.
7B4.2A10.4B4.2B$120.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$
119.A.AB2.5B4.4B4.4B14.4B13.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$119.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.4B.B
11.A3.11B11.4B4.4B$118.2A6.4B6.8B17.6B9.2A3.4B2C5B10.4B4.4B$128.2A7.
6B18.7B14.3B2C5B9.4B4.4B$128.A9.4B21.B.4B13.10B8.4B4.4B$129.3A5.6B23.
4B13.9B7.4B4.4B$131.A4.8B23.4B12.9B6.4B4.4B$135.4B2.4B23.4B11.8B6.4B
4.4B$134.4B4.4B23.4B11.8B4.4B4.4B$133.4B6.4B23.4B11.6B4.4B4.4B$132.4B
8.4B23.4B10.6B3.4B4.4B$131.4B10.4B23.4B9.6B2.4B4.4B$130.4B12.4B23.4B
7.7B.4B4.4B$129.4B14.4B23.4B6.6B.4B4.4B$128.4B16.4B23.4B6.9B4.4B$127.
4B18.4B23.4B5.8B4.4B$126.4B20.4B23.4B3.8B4.4B$125.4B22.4B23.4B2.7B4.
4B$124.4B24.4B23.4B.6B4.4B$123.4B26.4B23.10B3.4B$122.4B28.4B23.9B2.4B
11.2A$121.4B30.4B19.3B.8B.4B12.A$120.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$119.4B
34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$118.4B36.4B7.B2.20B8.B2A2B$117.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$
116.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$115.4B42.4B2.24B5.B2.5B2.B$114.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E
2B.B2A$113.4B46.37B2E4B2A$113.3B48.40B.2B$113.2B50.39B$113.B52.39B$
167.38B$169.25B.9B$170.17B5.B3.8B$170.16B11.8B$170.16B12.7B$171.13B
15.6B$172.9B18.2B3D2B$174.6B19.2BD4B$176.4B19.B3D4B.3B$177.B21.13B$
199.14B$199.15B$200.14B$200.13B$199.14B$200.12B$202.3B2A3B$202.2BA2BA
B$204.B2A!
There's a very minor reason. As calcyman mentions, the "safe" p497 recovery time is not affected by gliders crossing the Fx119 reaction area. (I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 9:05 pmEven if one follows it with a dependent conduit with that transparent block, there is ample space to delete the glider with a fishhook or sidesnagger. Is there any particular reason why the unnecessary still lives were there, or should I remove them?
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x = 222, y = 123, rule = LifeHistory
204.2A$204.A$74.2A126.A.A$74.A85.A37.2A2.2A$72.A.A59.A9.A15.3A35.2A$
30.A37.2A2.2A60.3A5.3A18.A$4.A9.A15.3A35.2A67.A3.A20.2A11.2E$4.3A5.3A
18.A102.2A3.2A32.2E$7.A3.A20.2A11.2E$6.2A3.2A32.2E3$137.C$138.C$7.C
128.3C$8.C141.2E52.2A$6.3C141.2E34.2A16.A.A$20.2E52.2A62.2E45.A.A18.A
$20.2E34.2A16.A.A60.E2.E44.A20.2A$8.2E45.A.A18.A55.2A4.2E44.2A4.2A$7.
E2.E44.A20.2A53.A.A55.A.A$2.2A4.2E44.2A4.2A69.A57.A$.A.A55.A.A68.2A
56.2A7.2E$.A57.A80.2A33.2A20.2E$2A56.2A7.2E71.A34.A$10.2A33.2A20.2E
72.3A32.3A$10.A34.A97.A34.A$11.3A32.3A$13.A34.A9$187.A$187.3A$50.A
139.A$50.3A136.2A28.2A$53.A165.A$52.2A35.2A126.A.A$89.A123.2A2.2A$87.
A.A123.2A$83.2A2.2A$83.2A2$212.2E4.2A$52.2C158.2E4.2A$51.C.C28.2E4.2A
$53.C28.2E4.2A$182.2C$181.C.C$183.C4$202.2A$116.2A83.A2.A8.3D$117.A
76.2A5.A.A9.D$83.3D28.3D77.2A6.A9.3D$83.D30.D$82.3D127.2E$212.2E$82.
2E98.2C$82.2E97.C.C$183.C2$52.2C$51.C.C141.2A$53.C142.A$65.2A129.A.A$
66.A130.2A$66.A.A$67.2A7$193.2A$192.A.A$63.2A127.A$62.A.A126.2A$62.A
138.2A$61.2A138.2A$71.2A145.2A.A$71.2A145.A.2A$88.2A.A$88.A.2A119.2A$
211.2A$81.2A$81.2A5$201.2A$202.A$71.2A129.A.A$72.A130.2A$72.A.A$73.2A
4$210.3D$210.D$80.3D126.3D$80.D$79.3D6$214.2A$213.A2.A$84.2A128.2A$
83.A2.A$84.2A!
Wait, what? You've reintroduced the eater that I removed from the Fx77 (in order to use the FNG from the output Herschel to delete the blinker instead).
Ooh, I shouldn't have done that. And yet it works this way too (by catching the extraneous glider on the other end of the eater).
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x = 216, y = 184, rule = LifeHistory
C$.2C$2C107$162.4B$163.4B$164.4B$165.4B23.2A$114.B51.4B22.A$113.3B51.
4B18.BA.A$113.4B31.A19.4B14.2A.B2A$114.4B4.A9.A15.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B
$115.4B3.3A5.3A18.A10.18B6.4B$116.4B5.A3.A20.2A3.B5.2B2E16B3.6B$117.4B
3.2A.B.2A19.8B3.2B2E16B2.6B$118.4B2.7B21.8B.20B.7B$119.4B3.3B23.38B25.
B$120.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.2B$121.9B19.17B8.18B21.3B$122.3BC5B6.2B3.
2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$123.3BC38B12.14B20.4B$124.3C29B.7B12.16B18.4B$124.
14B2E25B11.14B.B2A15.4B$122.16B2E26B8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A13.4B$122.4B2E27B
2.8B8.A.AB7.6B4.A12.4B4.B$121.4BE2BE7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.A9.7B4.2A10.4B4.
2B$120.2AB2.B2E2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2A4.2A2.8B15.4B4.3B$119.A.AB2.5B4.4B
4.4B14.2B15.A.A12B12.4B4.4B$119.A6.2B7.4B2.4B15.4B13.A3.11B11.4B4.4B$
118.2A6.4B6.8B17.B14.2A3.4B2C5B10.4B4.4B$128.2A7.6B20.2A17.3B2C5B9.4B
4.4B$128.A9.4B21.A18.10B8.4B4.4B$129.3A5.6B21.3A.2A13.9B7.4B4.4B$131.
A4.8B22.A.ABA12.9B6.4B4.4B$135.4B2.4B24.A2B11.8B6.4B4.4B$134.4B4.4B23.
4B11.8B4.4B4.4B$133.4B6.4B23.4B11.6B4.4B4.4B$132.4B8.4B23.4B10.6B3.4B
4.4B$131.4B10.4B23.4B9.6B2.4B4.4B$130.4B12.4B23.4B7.7B.4B4.4B$129.4B14.
4B23.4B6.6B.4B4.4B$128.4B16.4B23.4B6.9B4.4B$127.4B18.4B23.4B5.8B4.4B$
126.4B20.4B23.4B3.8B4.4B$125.4B22.4B23.4B2.7B4.4B$124.4B24.4B23.4B.6B
4.4B$123.4B26.4B23.10B3.4B$122.4B28.4B23.9B2.4B11.2A$121.4B30.4B19.3B
.8B.4B12.A$120.4B32.4B15.2B.16B10.BA.A$119.4B34.4B12.20B8.2A.B2A$118.
4B36.4B7.B2.20B8.B2A2B$117.4B38.4B5.23B10.4B$116.4B40.4B4.23B8.6B$115.
4B42.4B2.24B5.B2.5B2.B$114.4B44.4B.24B3.6B2E2B.B2A$113.4B46.37B2E4B2A
$113.3B48.40B.2B$113.2B50.39B$113.B52.39B$167.38B$169.25B.9B$170.17B5.
B3.8B$170.16B11.8B$170.16B12.7B$171.13B15.6B$172.9B18.2B3D2B$174.6B19.
2BD4B$176.4B19.B3D4B.3B$177.B21.13B$199.14B$199.15B$200.14B$200.13B$199.
14B$200.12B$202.3B2A3B$202.2BA2BAB$204.B2A!
I agree that it at least used to be useful but that using it for overclocking doesn't make much sense now that we have the Snark and syringe. However, I can't rule out that someone will want to use it, so I've put both versions in. Also, I put that Fx119 version in the H->H section in case someone wants to follow RF48Hf (or another conduit that deletes the output Herschel's first block if we have any) with Fx119.dvgrn wrote: ↑May 13th, 2021, 11:01 amThere's a very minor reason. As calcyman mentions, the "safe" p497 recovery time is not affected by gliders crossing the Fx119 reaction area. (I repaired a minor problem with calcyman's pattern just now, in case anyone is wondering.)MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 9:05 pmEven if one follows it with a dependent conduit with that transparent block, there is ample space to delete the glider with a fishhook or sidesnagger. Is there any particular reason why the unnecessary still lives were there, or should I remove them?
However, the range of overclocking speeds is definitely improved a lot by the dependent-conduit option with the "unnecessary" still lifes. The spark in the Fx119 reaction area in that variant of the Silver G-to-H is also smaller, disappears 31 ticks sooner, and doesn't produce the additional parallel glider output.
Sometimes that can be convenient, if you're using this conduit in Spartan self-constructing circuitry to build relatively narrow glider salvos. The modified Fx119 only has two thirds as many transparent lanes -- 14 instead of 21 -- but that's very often plenty wide enough to build very useful salvos. You don't have to worry about suppressing that second parallel glider output, and other gliders can follow closer behind the inserted one because of the smaller spark.
... Or maybe it only used to be convenient -- I'm not sure there are any use cases left that couldn't be handled better by more recent discoveries. Certainly nobody cares about overclocking this circuit any more! So maybe it could just as well be removed. It was originally included because the loaf-reset trick wasn't particularly obvious, and it used to come in handy occasionally.
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x = 28, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
2o18bo$bo16b3o$bobo13bo$2b2o13b2o2$26b2o$26bo$24bobo$24b2o$20b2o$2bo
17bobo$2bobo16b2o$2b3o$4bo4$15b2o$13bo2bo$13b3o2$15bo!
Quite likely, at the rate you're going, your "unofficial" version will end up being significantly more useful than the previous "official" version, in spite of it having lost a lot of functionality in terms of being able to run a script to re-compile the stamp collection.MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 8:01 pmWhen is the official update going to happen. The last one was over a year ago.
I was actually hoping that the script would be updated in order to accommodate a two-dimensional layout because resizing the grid and adding new conduits to an already crowded cell are each annoying.dvgrn wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 8:22 pmQuite likely, at the rate you're going, your "unofficial" version will end up being significantly more useful than the previous "official" version, in spite of it having lost a lot of functionality in terms of being able to run a script to re-compile the stamp collection.
I sometimes look back at old forum posts for various reasons (Today, it was finding R predecessors from the impractical conduits that I made over half of a year ago for this wiki edit.), and that's how I found HNE0T67. However, a systematic effort is going to be annoying. That's why I started this in the first place: because it would be easier to save conduits as they are found in some list in order to be referenced later than to comb through a year's worth of forum posts in any thread that could potentially contain any conduits.dvgrn wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 8:22 pmMeanwhile, it would now take a whole lot of painful work to go through every single conduit and figure out which ones aren't in the "official" collection, so that they can be added. I'm only one of the previous maintainers of the collection, and I have no immediate intention of picking up this particular thankless task again.
Bear in mind that I've removed over half a dozen conduits from the Elementary Conduits Collection that were composite (as well as all of the tandem glider conduits).dvgrn wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 8:22 pmEDIT: The first post has searchable lists of canonical conduit names. I don't see a good way to retrieve that kind of list from the "unofficial" stamp collection; are there any kind of records about which conduits were added since Freywa's most recent script-enabled update?
... which was exactly why the automatic-layout script was written in the first place. I can certainly put it on my to-do list to rewrite the script to create a two-dimensional layout, but it will only have the old data available. Maybe that will be a good place to start, since at least the old and new collections can then be compared rectangle by rectangle. (Though I guess really that can be done anyway.)MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 9:01 pmI was actually hoping that the script would be updated in order to accommodate a two-dimensional layout because resizing the grid and adding new conduits to an already crowded cell are each annoying.
Yup. That would work for me if the new unofficial list contained only new conduits that weren't in Freywa's last update. But as it is, figuring out where the new conduits are in the grid version of the ECC is just as much of a task to be avoided as hunting through a year's worth of forum posts.MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 9:01 pmThat's why I started this in the first place: because it would be easier to save conduits as they are found in some list in order to be referenced later than to comb through a year's worth of forum posts in any thread that could potentially contain any conduits.
That doesn't really help me generate any specific lists of what has been added, though. Whoever does all the hard maintenance work gets to make those kinds of include/don't-include decisions. I might end up disagreeing about the removal of the tandem glider conduits, since I do end up using those fairly regularly... maybe they'll end up off to the side in a column by themselves, or something like that. Alternatively, the H-to-G and H-to-Gn converters were originally in two separate collections -- maybe it's time to get the old H-to-Gn collection back up to date.MathAndCode wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 9:01 pmBear in mind that I've removed over half a dozen conduits from the Elementary Conduits Collection that were composite (as well as all of the tandem glider conduits).dvgrn wrote: ↑May 31st, 2021, 8:22 pmEDIT: The first post has searchable lists of canonical conduit names. I don't see a good way to retrieve that kind of list from the "unofficial" stamp collection; are there any kind of records about which conduits were added since Freywa's most recent script-enabled update?
... Is the original H-to-2G from the Scorbie Splitter really still not in the ECC? Seems like it should be in the dependent-conduits isolation zone over on the right in the H-to-G rectangle.dvgrn wrote: ↑June 1st, 2021, 9:43 amYikes, that's a useful simplification that I didn't think of looking for! It should be preferred over the standard Scorbie Splitter whenever the extra glider output (stopped by the white eater in the pattern below) isn't needed:EvinZL wrote: ↑June 1st, 2021, 9:21 amSup[p]ressed scorbie splitter:Code: Select all
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There are piles of Scorbie Splitters used as merge circuits in the new pi-calculator printer, for example, that really ought to be replaced with this version.Code: Select all
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It indeed is not; that's why I asked for a link to the RLE on the Discord server. Do you happen to already know the systematic name for it?
The new version is SW25T179, or technically SW10T108_SW25T179 but the standard dependent-conduit output has to be suppressed in a Scorbie Splitter.MathAndCode wrote: ↑June 1st, 2021, 12:26 pmDo you happen to already know the systematic name for it?
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73.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$72.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$72.D
5.D9.D.D3.D3.D7.D.D2.2D$73.3D2.3D6.D3.3D4.D6.D2.D.D.D$76.D.D7.D3.D3.D
3.D5.D3.2D2.D$72.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D4.D4.D3.D$73.3D2.5D.5D2.3D4.D3.5D
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27.3D2.D3.D.5D2.3D4.D4.3D2.D6.3D5$18.A6.2A$18.3A3.B2AB$21.A2.4B67.A$
20.2A3.2B68.3A$15.B4.3B.4B70.A$14.3B5.7B60.A7.2A$12.6B3.11B57.3A5.4B$
6.4B2.7B2.12B59.A6.4B$6.29B56.2A3.8B$3.B2C29B51.B4.3B.9B$3.3CB2C27B
49.3B5.14B$4.2CB3CB2A23B47.6B3.16B$3.3CB2C2B2A21B43.4B2.7B2.16B$3.2CB
2.27B42.31B$8.26B40.B2C30B$10.B2.19B42.3CB2C28B$12.19B44.2CB3CB2A25B$
11.21B42.3CB2C2B2A21B.4B$11.8B2.11B42.2CB2.27B.4B$9.2AB2.5B2.11B47.
26B3.4B$8.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A47.B2.19B6.4B$8.A13.8B.BA.A48.19B8.4B$7.2A
12.9B4.A47.21B8.4B$20.9B5.2A46.8B2.11B9.3B$19.4B2.3B52.2AB2.5B2.11B
10.2B$18.4B4.B52.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A9.B$17.4B58.A13.8B.BA.A$16.4B58.2A
12.9B4.A$15.4B72.9B5.2A$14.4B72.4B2.3B$13.4B72.4B4.B$12.4B72.4B$87.4B
$86.4B$85.4B$84.4B$83.4B!
Thank you. (I had figured them out manually by the time that I saw that, but I've made a mistake with that at least once, so it's nice to have someone else verify it.) They are in the RLE that I have attached to this post.
I've always been able to run Python on other applications, but I still can't run Python scripts in Golly. This is why I've asked about the existence of lifelib versions of various programs, such as synthesise-patt.
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5.A3.2A$3.3A3.A$2.A3.2A.A$.A2.A.A.A$.A.2ABAB$2.A2.2BA$3.3ABA$3A2.BA$A
2.3A5B$3.A2.6B$.A.A2.7B6.2A6.3D$.2A3.6BAB5.A6.3BD$5.6BABA2.BA.A5.3BD$
5.6B2A2B.B2A5.4B$5.12B6.4B$5.8BA3B5.4B$5.7B2A3B4.4B$3.2AB.5BABA5.4B$
2.A.AB.6B6.4B$2.A4.6B5.4B$.2A5.6B3.4B$8.7B.4B$9.10B$9.9B$9.9B$9.10B$
9.6B.4B$10.4B3.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.2B2A$24.BABA$25.AB!
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x = 28, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
18.2A$18.A2.2A$19.2A.3A$20.B4.A$19.2AB3A$19.2A.A$16.5B$7.2A6.4B$6.B2A
B5.5B$7.3B4.7B$8.B2.2B.7B$6.15B$6.15B$5.16B$4.18B$3.19B$2.4B2C14B$2.
5B2C13B$2.B5C15B$.3B3C17B$2.3BC18B$2.21B$3.B.18B$7.15B4.2A$5.4B.8B8.A
$3.A.2A4.4B2C2B4.BA.A$.3AB2A4.4BCBC4B.B2A$A4.B5.5BC7B$.3A.2A4.13B$3.
2A2.A3.12B$6.2A6.9B$14.8B$14.7B$13.7B$12.6B$11.5B$10.4B$9.D3B$8.D3B$
8.3D!
Looks great! It fully works with the B-to-I precursor:cvojan wrote: ↑June 8th, 2021, 10:17 pmI-to-G:Code: Select all
x = 28, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory 18.2A$18.A2.2A$19.2A.3A$20.B4.A$19.2AB3A$19.2A.A$16.5B$7.2A6.4B$6.B2A B5.5B$7.3B4.7B$8.B2.2B.7B$6.15B$6.15B$5.16B$4.18B$3.19B$2.4B2C14B$2. 5B2C13B$2.B5C15B$.3B3C17B$2.3BC18B$2.21B$3.B.18B$7.15B4.2A$5.4B.8B8.A $3.A.2A4.4B2C2B4.BA.A$.3AB2A4.4BCBC4B.B2A$A4.B5.5BC7B$.3A.2A4.13B$3. 2A2.A3.12B$6.2A6.9B$14.8B$14.7B$13.7B$12.6B$11.5B$10.4B$9.D3B$8.D3B$ 8.3D!
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2$24.A$24.3A$4.A22.A$3.A.A20.2A$3.A.A14.2B4.4B$2.2A.2A12.5B4.4B$2.A2.
B9.10B2.6B$3.AB2AB2.15B2.7B$.A.A.2AB.16B2.8B$.2A4.18B.9B$7.20BC8B$7.
19BCBC7B$8.18B2C9B$10.27B$12.19B3.4B$11.20B4.4B$11.20B5.4B$12.14B11.
3BD$9.2B.13B13.DBDB$8.2A16B13.2D2B$8.2A16B4.2A8.3B$9.B2.12B.B2A.A.A9.
2B$14.10B.B2ABA12.B$5.7B.10B4.B2.A$5.19B2.2A.2A$3.C20B3.A.A$3.BC18B4.
A.A$2.2B2C17B5.A$.2B2C2B2A13B2A$.2BC3B2A13B2A$3.18B$3.10B2.5B$4.6B5.
7B$5.3B8.B3.2A$5.B14.A$4.2A15.3A$4.A18.A$5.A$4.2A!
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x = 56, y = 53, rule = LifeHistory
5$25.A$25.3A$28.A$27.2A$21.2B4.4B$20.5B4.4B$16.10B2.6B$15.11B2.7B$15.
11B2.8B$15.11B.9B$15.13BC8B$15.12BCBC7B$15.12B2C9B$15.23B$15.17B3.4B$
15.17B4.4B$15.17B5.4B$15.12B11.3BD$15.11B13.DBDB$15.12B13.2D2B$15.12B
4.2A8.3B$15.10B.B2A.A.A9.2B$15.10B.B2ABA12.B$6.7B.10B4.B2.A$6.19B2.2A
.2A$4.C20B3.A.A$4.BC18B4.A.A$3.2B2C17B5.A$2.2B2C2B2A13B2A$2.2BC3B2A
13B2A$4.18B$4.10B2.5B$5.6B5.7B$6.3B8.B3.2A$6.B14.A$5.2A15.3A$5.A18.A$
6.A$5.2A!
I have added (a slightly modified version of) it to the Elementary Conduits Collection draft.
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24bo$24b3o$4bo22bo$3bobo20b2o$3bobo$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bob2o2$27bo$26bob
o$26b2o7$8b2o$8b2o$26b2obo$26b2ob3o$32bo$26b2ob3o$27bobo$3b2o22bobo$4b
2o22bo$3b2o2b2o13b2o$3bo3b2o13b2o4$20b2o$20bo$4b2o15b3o$4bo18bo$5b3o$
7bo!
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x = 27, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
19.A$17.3A$A15.A$3A13.2A$3.A21.2A$2.2A21.A$23.A.A$23.2A5$.C$.C.C$.3C$
3.C3$18.2A$18.2A2$12.D.D$12.D.D$12.3D!
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19.A$17.3A$A15.A$3A13.2A$3.A$2.2A2$22.2A$22.2A4$.C$.C.C$.3C$3.C3$18.2A
$18.2A2$12.D.D$12.D.D$12.3D!
Here's 3 elementary conduits based off this reaction that have new outputs. There's an elementary Bx227 (H->H) with a unique output geometry, an H->G with new outputs NE25T122 and NE53T81 in addition to the standard SW-2 (EDIT: known), and an HF143P with the standard annoying block at the end:
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94.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$94.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D7.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D
$94.D.D.D.D9.D.D7.D5.D7.D5.D$94.D2.2D.3D6.D3.3D4.D5.D6.D5.D$94.D3.D.D
7.D7.D3.D5.D5.D5.D$94.D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D5.D4.D5.D$94.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D4.
D4.3D2.5D.5D4$5.D3.D.4D9.3D3.3D2.5D.D3.D52.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D4.D
55.D3.D.5D3.D6.D3.3D2.4D$5.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D5.D.D3.D52.2D2.D.D5.D
5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D55.D3.D.D6.2D5.2D2.D3.D.D3.D$5.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D5.D5.
D4.D2.D3.D52.D.D.D.D5.D9.D3.D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.D.D7.D4.D.D6.D.D3.D$5.5D.
4D3.D.D5.D5.D4.D3.5D52.D2.2D.3D4.3D4.2D4.D4.3D4.D55.5D.3D5.D3.D2.D4.
2D2.4D$5.D3.D.D3.D3.D5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D52.D3.D.D9.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.
D.D7.D3.5D5.D.D$5.D3.D.D3.D2.D.D3.D5.D4.D5.D3.D52.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.
D3.D3.D3.D55.D3.D.D7.D6.D2.D3.D.D$5.D3.D.4D2.D3.D.5D.5D.D5.D3.D52.D3.
D.5D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D54.D3.D.D6.3D5.D3.3D2.D9$11.2A.2A85.2A.2A85.2A
.2A$12.A.A87.A.A87.A.A$7.2A.A5.A.2A77.2A.A5.A.2A77.2A.A5.A.2A$6.A.A.
2A3.2A.A.A75.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A75.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$5.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A73.A
2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A73.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$5.7AB.B7A73.7AB.B7A73.7AB.B7A$9.
3B.B.3B81.3B.B.3B81.3B.B.3B$7.3AB.3B.B3A77.3AB.3B.B3A77.3AB.3B.B3A$6.
A.BA3BA3BAB.A75.A.BA3BA3BAB.A31.B43.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$6.2A3.BABAB3.2A75.
2A3.BABAB3.2A30.2B43.2A3.BABAB3.2A$11.BABAB34.B50.BABAB34.3B48.BABAB$
11.2BA2B33.2B50.2BA2B33.4B48.2BA2B$11.2B.2B32.3B50.2B.2B32.4B49.2B.2B
$9.B.5B31.4B48.B.5B31.4B48.B.5B$7.9B30.4B47.9B30.4B47.9B$7.8B2A28.4B
48.8B2A28.4B48.8B2A$6.2A6BA2BA26.4B48.2A6BA2BA26.4B48.2A6BA2BA$6.2AB.
5B2AB25.4B49.2AB.5B2AB25.4B49.2AB.5B2AB$7.B2.8B24.4B51.B2.8B24.4B51.B
2.8B$10.8B3.2B18.4B55.8B3.2B18.4B55.8B3.2B$11.12B17.4B57.12B17.4B57.
12B$11.14B14.4B58.14B14.4B58.14B$11.15B12.4B59.15B12.4B59.15B$9.18B
10.4B58.18B10.4B58.18B6.2A$7.21B8.4B57.21B8.4B57.21B4.B2AB$7.2BC19B6.
4B58.2BC19B6.4B58.2BC19B4.2B$6.3BCBC19B3.5B57.3BCBC19B3.5B57.3BCBC17B
4.2B.B.2B$7.2B3C20B.7B57.2B3C20B.7B57.2B3C17B3.9B$6.5BC29B2.B52.5BC
29B2.B52.5BC30B$5.10B.25B.B2A50.10B.25B.B2A50.10B.27B.B$4.4B9.26B2A
49.4B9.26B2A49.4B9.31B$4.3B10.24B.2B50.3B10.24B.2B50.3B10.33B$2.4B12.
23B51.4B12.23B51.4B12.31B3D$2.2E14.24B50.2E14.24B50.2E14.33BD$3.E16.
23B50.E16.23B50.E16.29B3D$3E17.24B46.3E17.24B46.3E17.29B$E19.23B47.E
19.23B9.B37.E19.10B4.8B.6B$19.25B65.25B7.2B56.13B7.B5.B.B$19.24B66.
24B7.3B56.6B5.2A13.B2AB$20.23B67.23B6.4B57.4B6.A15.2A$20.24B66.25B3.
4B58.4B7.3A$22.24B66.29B72.A$24.8B2.12B.2B65.8B2.16B$25.7B3.13B2A65.
7B3.14B$26.5B5.10B.B2A66.5B5.13B$28.2B7.10B.B69.2B7.12B$28.2B2.2B2.
10B80.12B$26.D20B75.15B$24.DBD21B73.16B$23.B3D21B73.15B$24.D23B73.14B
$26.22B71.2AB.10B$31.B.3B.12B69.A.AB2.7B$37.11B70.A6.6B$38.2B2.6B69.
2A9.2B$43.4B$44.5B$47.2A$47.A$48.3A$50.A!
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x = 101, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
61.2A.2A25.4B$62.A.A25.4B$57.2A.A5.A.2A19.4B$56.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A17.4B$
55.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A15.4B$55.7AB.B7A14.4B$59.3B.B.3B17.4B11.B$57.3AB.
3B.B3A14.4B11.2B$56.A.BA3BA3BAB.A12.4B11.3B$56.2A3.BABAB3.2A11.4B11.
4B$35.A25.BABAB15.4B11.5B$35.3A23.2BA2B14.4B11.6B$38.A22.2B.2B13.4B
11.7B$37.2A4.2B14.B.5B12.4B11.8B$33.B3.8B12.9B11.4B11.8B$31.4B4.7B11.
8B2A9.4B11.8B$30.6B.9B10.2A6BA2BA7.4B11.8B$30.6B.10B9.2AB.5B2AB6.4B
11.8B$29.19B9.B2.8B5.4B11.8B$28.19B13.8B3.5B11.8B$28.17B16.14B11.8B$
29.15B17.14B10.8B$27.17B17.15B8.8B$25.21B13.18B6.8B$25.2BC21B3.2B2.
22B4.8B$24.3BCBC4B.24BD19B2.8B$25.2B3C4B2.23BDBD27B$24.5BC4B2.23B3D
28B$23.10B4.24BD29B2.B$22.4B10.55B.B2A$22.3B12.16B.4B4.31B2A$20.4B13.
12B5.3B4.30B.2B$20.2A15.9B6.4B2.33B$21.A14.11B5.2A3.35B$18.3A16.7B.B
2A5.A2.37B$18.A20.4B2.BA.A.3A3.38B$38.B2A2B5.A.A4.38B$39.2A7.2A5.39B$
54.39B$53.40B$54.40B$30.A23.42B$30.3A23.26B2.12B.2B$33.A23.17B.7B3.
13B2A$32.2A23.18B.5B5.10B.B2A$32.5B8.A11.20B.2B7.10B.B$34.4B5.3A12.
22B2.2B2.10B$32.7B3.A15.18BD20B$31.9B2.2A14.16BDBD21B$29.11B.3B2.B10.
17B3D21B$29.13B3.3B8.4B.13BD23B$28.2A18B7.4B2.37B$28.2A18B6.4B3.13B4.
4B.3B.12B$29.B.18B4.4B4.6B4.4B4.4B4.11B$32.18B2.4B4.7B5.4B4.4B4.2B2.
6B$30.20B.4B6.6B6.4B4.4B8.4B$18.B.7B2.25B8.6B6.4B4.4B8.5B$12.B.13B2.
24B9.6B7.4B4.4B10.2A$4.24BD23B9.8B7.4B4.4B9.A$.2B.BD21BD23B2.B8.6B9.
4B4.4B9.3A$2A3B3D18B2D28B5.7B10.4B4.4B10.A$2AB.BDBD15B2A2B2D41B9.4B4.
4B$.B2.3BD15B2A3BD22B2ABD11B2A2B.B8.4B4.4B$5.6B2.2B3.11B.21B2AB3D9B2A
3B2A8.4B4.4B$19.10B2.23BDBD14B2A9.4B4.4B$22.6B3.25BD15B11.4B4.4B$24.
3B5.28B2.2B2.B2.5B10.4B4.4B$26.B4.13B.7B2.4B7.3B4.2A11.4B4.4B$26.2A3.
13B2.6B13.B2AB3.A13.4B4.4B$27.A5.11B3.3B16.2A5.3A11.4B4.4B$24.3A8.9B
4.B26.A12.4B4.4B$24.A10.8B46.4B4.4B$35.8B47.4B4.3B$37.6B48.4B4.2B$37.
5B50.4B4.B$39.3B51.4B!
Code: Select all
x = 52, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A.2A$12.A.A$7.2A.A5.A.2A$6.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$5.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$5.
7AB.B7A$9.3B.B.3B$7.3AB.3B.B3A$6.A.BA3BA3BAB.A$6.2A3.BABAB3.2A30.B$
11.BABAB34.2B$11.2BA2B33.3B$11.2B.2B32.4B$9.B.5B31.4B$7.9B30.4B$7.8B
2A28.4B$6.2A6BA2BA26.4B$6.2AB.5B2AB25.4B$7.B2.8B24.4B$10.8B3.2B18.4B$
11.12B17.4B$11.14B14.4B$11.15B12.4B$9.18B10.4B$7.21B8.4B$7.2BC19B6.4B
$6.3BCBC19B3.5B$7.2B3C20B.7B$6.5BC29B2.B$5.10B.25B.B2A$4.4B9.26B2A$4.
3B10.24B.2B$2.4B12.23B$2.2E14.24B$3.E16.23B$3E17.24B$E19.23B$19.25B7.
B$19.24B7.2B$20.23B6.3B$20.25B3.4B$22.29B$24.8B2.16B$25.7B3.14B$26.5B
5.13B$28.2B7.12B$36.12B$34.13B$33.2D12B$32.2D12B$33.2D10B$34.D2B.5B$
37.4B$37.4B$38.2B$36.4B$36.2C$37.C$34.3C$34.C!
Attached is the new version of the EEC draft.Sphenocorona wrote: ↑June 16th, 2021, 2:51 amHere's 3 elementary conduits based off this reaction that have new outputs.