Oscillator Discussion Thread

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns in Conway's Game of Life, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by GUYTU6J » January 13th, 2023, 5:48 am

Sokwe wrote:
January 12th, 2023, 7:01 am
...
JP21 wrote:
January 12th, 2023, 6:54 am
using a technique that has been out there for the entire time
I don't recall seeing this technique before. Where was it posted?
See this recent question for a collection of oscillators capable of doing so. And no, it is far from new; sombreros, period-856 glider gun and p72 quasi-shuttle shows the interaction.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » January 13th, 2023, 6:26 am

C28 wrote:
January 12th, 2023, 8:15 am
what technique are you talking about? i see this:

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x = 79, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
15$57b2o$55b4o$29b2o24b2obo$27bo3bo5b3o14bobo6bo$27bobob2o3bo3bo14bo7b
2o$26b2o4bo2bo5bo15bo5bo$3b2o27bo2bo5bo14b2o7bo$2bo2bo26bo2bo5bo15bo6b
obo$2bo33bo3bo21bob2o$2bo21bo12b3o22b4o$2bobo3bo15bo37b2o$3bobo3bo14b
o4b2o31bo$4bo4bo14b2obobo31b3o$5b4o16bo3bo30b5o$26b2o31b2o3b2o$58b3o3b
3o$6b3o50b2o3b2o$5bo3bo50b5o$4bo5bo50b3o$4bo5bo51bo$4bo5bo$5bo3bo$6b3o
!
happening, but i feel like that was already known.
GUYTU6J wrote:
January 13th, 2023, 5:48 am
Sokwe wrote:
January 12th, 2023, 7:01 am
I don't recall seeing this technique before. Where was it posted?
See this recent question for a collection of oscillators capable of doing so. And no, it is far from new; sombreros, period-856 glider gun and p72 quasi-shuttle shows the interaction.
Sorry for not being clear. I meant specifically using 24P10 in that way. That technique, in its most general form, is of course known. In fact I discovered the original form of the newly reduced p40 honey farm shuttle, which had the same type of interaction using Kok's galaxy.

The form with 24P10 is a lot less obvious (to me, at least), as it reacts at a non-spark site and causes an extra birth and death in the 24P10, unlike the other reactions which simply suppress the birth of a dot spark in the catalyzing oscillator.

If there is a prior case of 24P10 being used in this way, please let me know.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » January 13th, 2023, 9:43 am

The technique (or reaction) was almost discovered before:
praosylen wrote:
February 18th, 2019, 1:15 am
Trivial 24p10 dimer:

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$ob3o3bo$2o6bo$4bo3bo$4bo6b2o$4bo3b3obo$7bobo$7b2o3$11b2o$10bobo$
7bob3o3bo$7b2o6bo$11bo3bo$11bo6b2o$11bo3b3obo$14bobo$14b2o!
The pattern above is very close to this pattern, which I just found now (non-trivial 24p10 dimer):

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x = 18, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$ob3o3bo$2o6bo$4bo3bo$4bo6b2o$4bo3b3obo$7bobo$7b2o3$9b2o$8bo
bo$5bob3o3bo$5b2o6bo$9bo3bo$9bo6b2o$9bo3b3obo$12bobo$12b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » January 13th, 2023, 1:06 pm

mvr, p120 honey farm hassler. Mini-p6 pipsquirters can replace the pentadecathlons to reduce bounding box. The original form used eight Kok's galaxies.

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x = 58, y = 58, rule = B3/S23
19b3o$20bo$20bo$19b3o$42b2o$19b3o20bo2bo$19b3o2$19b3o20bob2o$20bo16b2o
2bobo$20bo16bo4bo$19b3o19bo$5bo2bo29bo2bo$8bo$4bo4bo$4b2o2bobo$9bob2o$
21b3o$20bo3bo$9bo2bo6bo5bo10b3o7bo2bob2obo2bo$9b2o8bo5bo9bo3bo6b4ob2ob
4o$19bo5bo8bo5bo5bo2bob2obo2bo$20bo3bo9bo5bo$21b3o10bo5bo$35bo3bo$36b
3o7$19b3o$18bo3bo$17bo5bo10b3o$17bo5bo9bo3bo$o2bob2obo2bo5bo5bo8bo5bo$
4ob2ob4o6bo3bo9bo5bo8b2o$o2bob2obo2bo7b3o10bo5bo6bo2bo$33bo3bo$34b3o$
45b2obo$47bobo2b2o$48bo4bo$49bo$16bo2bo29bo2bo$16bo19b3o$15bo4bo16bo$
14bobo2b2o16bo$12b2obo20b3o2$36b3o$12bo2bo20b3o$14b2o$36b3o$37bo$37bo$
36b3o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by EvinZL » January 13th, 2023, 8:30 pm

p42 and p84 hassler based on hotdogpi's partials

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x = 363, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
122b2o198b2o$122b2o198b2o4$103b4o196b4o$102bo4bo194bo4bo$102bo3bobo
193bo3bobo$103bo3bobo193bo3bobo$109bo199bo$109bo6bo192bo6bo$106bo2bo6b
2o13b2ob2o170bo2bo6b2o13b2ob2o$107b2o23bobo172b2o23bobo$104bo11b3o3bo
8bo2bo169bo11b3o3bo8bo2bo$102b3o8b4obo2bobo10bob2o164b3o8b4obo2bobo10b
ob2o$101bo3b2o5b3ob2o2b2ob2o5bobobobo164bo3b2o5b3ob2o2b2ob2o5bobobobo$
100bob2obobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o4bobob2obo163bob2obobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o4bobob
2obo$100bobobobo5b2ob2o2b2ob3o5b2o3bo164bobobobo5b2ob2o2b2ob3o5b2o3bo$
99b2obo10bobo2bob4o8b3o164b2obo10bobo2bob4o8b3o$102bo2bo8bo3b3o11bo
152bo16bo2bo8bo3b3o11bo$102bobo23b2o155b3o14bobo23b2o$101b2ob2o13b2o6b
o2bo151bo5bo12b2ob2o13b2o6bo2bo$120bo6bo154b6obo6b2o22bo6bo$127bo159bo
bo5bo2bo28bo$127bobo3bo148b2o2bo2b2o7bo28bobo3bo$128bobo3bo147bobo2b2o
9bo29bobo3bo$114bo14bo4bo151bobo3bo3bobo15bo14bo4bo$112b2obo14b4o153bo
3bo3bobo14b2obo14b4o$111b2o178bo4bo14b2o$103b2o4bobo180b4o7b2o4bobo$
91b2o2b2o7bo3bo195bo3bo$49b2o2b2o6b2o11bo11bo5bo3bo7bobo2bobo3b3o186bo
bo2bobo3b3o$44b2o3b2o2bobo5bo10b3o5b2o3bobo4bobobob2o5b2o2bo2bo3b2o
168b3o16b2o2bo2bo3b2o$38b2o3bobo9bo6b3ob2o3bo5bo2bobobo2bo5bobobobo10b
2o3bo155b2o12b5o20b2o3bo$7b2o6b2o15b2o5bo3bobob9ob2o5bobobo3b6o4bob2ob
3o5bo3bob2o11bo156b2o11bo3b2o24bo29bo$2o6b3o4bo2b2o12bobo4bob2obobo9bo
bo9b4o6b4o3bo8b2o3bobobo181b2o2bo54b3o$o5bo4bo4b2o2bo13bo2b2obobobo4b
2o2b2obo8b2o5bo2b2o5b2o3b2ob2o7b2o2bo10bo171b5ob2o19bo27bo5bo$b3obob3o
bo5bobo8b2o2bobobobobo3bo5bo3bob2o4bobo3b2o2bob2o3b3o2b3obob2o6b2o2b3o
9b2o171b2obobo18b3o27b6obo6b2o$3bobobo9bobo4bob4o2bobo2bob2obobobo4bo
2bobob2ob4obo3bob2o9bo4bo3b2o9b2o8bobo23b2o2b2o139b2o3b2o19bo3bo18bo
12bobo5bo2bo$4b2o2bo7b2obobobob3obo3b2o3bo2b2o3b2o3b2ob2o2b3o2b2o4b2ob
4o3b3ob2o2b2obo3b5o8b2o4bo25bo3bo5bo11bo11b2o6b2o2b2o95bobob2o14b2o5bo
5bo15b3o7b2o2bo2b2o7bo$7bo7bo2bob4o11b2obo6b3o2b2o3bobo8b2o2bo4bobobob
o8bo3b2ob2o5b2ob3o3b3o2bo17b2obobobo4bobo3b2o5b3o10bo5bobo2b2o3b2o35b
2o52b2ob5o13b2o6bo3bo15bo10bobo2b2o9bo$2bo4bo7b2o4b2o4bo6bo3bo6b3o2bo
2b2o5bo7b2o4bo5bo2bo4b2obobobo5b2ob2ob3o6b2obo16bobobobo5bo2bobobo2bo
5bo3b2ob3o6bo9bobo3b2o27b3o6b2o49bo2b2o8bo3bobo6b3o16b2o13bobo3bo3bobo
$bobo3bo2bo4b2o4b2o4bo6bo3bo6b3o2bo2b2o5bo7b2o4bo5bo2bo4b2obobobo5b2ob
2ob3o6b2obo13b2obo3bo5b3ob2obo4b6o3bobobo5b2ob9obobo3bo5b2o15b2o3bo4bo
5bo49b2o3bo6bo7bo40bo3bo3bobo$bobo3bo2bo4bo2bob4o11b2obo6b3o2b2o3bobo
8b2o2bo4bobobobo8bo3b2ob2o5b2ob3o8bo13bobobo3b2o8bo3b4o6b4o9bobo9bobob
2obo4bobo12b2o2bo3bob3obob3o50b5o8bo33bo17bo4bo$2bo4bo8b2obobobob3obo
3b2o3bo2b2o3b2o3b2ob2o2b3o2b2o4b2ob4o3b3ob2o2b2obo3b5o8b2o23bo2b2o7b2o
b2o3b2o5b2o2bo5b2o8bob2o2b2o4bobobob2o2bo13bo2b2o8bobobo53b3o9b2o3bo
26b2obo17b4o$7bo9bobo4bob4o2bobo2bob2obobobo4bo2bobob2ob4obo3bob2o9bo
4bo3b2o9b2o26b3o2b2o6b2obob3o2b3o3b2obo2b2o3bobo4b2obo3bo5bo3bobobobob
o2b2o8bobo8bo2b2o67b2obobo24bo$4b2o2bo8bobo8b2o2bobobobobo3bo5bo3bob2o
4bobo3b2o2bob2o3b3o2b3obob2o6b2o2b3o26b2o9b2o3bo4bo9b2obo3bob4ob2obobo
2bo4bobobob2obo2bobo2b4obo4bobo9bo75bo24bobob2o$3bobobo8b2o2bo13bo2b2o
bobobo4b2o2b2obo8b2o5bo2b2o5b2o3b2ob2o7b2o2bo23b2o8b5o3bob2o2b2ob3o3b
4ob2o4b2o2b3o2b2ob2o3b2o3b2o2bo3b2o3bob3obobobob2o8bo4bo45b4o17bob2o
26bo3b2o9b3o$b3obob3obo3bo2b2o12bobo4bob2obobo9bobo9b4o6b4o3bo8b2o3bob
obo13bo8b3ob2o5b2ob2o3bo8bobobobo4bo2b2o8bobo3b2o2b3o6bob2o11b4obo2bo
4bo2bo3bobo43bo4bo17bo33bo8b5o$o5bo4bo3b2o15b2o5bo3bobob9ob2o5bobobo3b
6o4bob2ob3o5bo3bob2o13bob2o6b3ob2ob2o5bobobob2o4bo2bo5bo4b2o7bo5b2o2bo
2b3o6bo3bo6bo4b2o4b2o4bo2bo3bobo42bobo3bo3bo40bo7bo6bo3b2o$2o6b3o27b2o
3bobo9bo6b3ob2o3bo5bo2bobobo2bo5bobobobo16bob2o6b3ob2ob2o5bobobob2o4bo
2bo5bo4b2o7bo5b2o2bo2b3o6bo3bo6bo4b2o4b2o7bo4bo42bobo3bo3bobo13b2o16b
3o6bobo3bo8b2o2bo$7b2o35b2o3b2o2bobo5bo10b3o5b2o3bobo4bobobob2o17bo2b
3o3b3ob2o5b2ob2o3bo8bobobobo4bo2b2o8bobo3b2o2b3o6bob2o11b4obo2bo7bo47b
o9b2o2bobo10bo15bo3bo6b2o13b5ob2o$49b2o2b2o6b2o11bo11bo5bo3bo25bo4b2o
8b5o3bob2o2b2ob3o3b4ob2o4b2o2b3o2b2ob2o3b2o3b2o2bo3b2o3bob3obobobob2o
7bo2b2o44bo7b2o2bo2b2o7b3o15bo5bo5b2o14b2obobo$91b2o2b2o23bobo8b2o9b2o
3bo4bo9b2obo3bob4ob2obobo2bo4bobobob2obo2bobo2b4obo4bobo9bobobo43bo2bo
5bobo12bo18bo3bo19b2o3b2o$120b2o9b3o2b2o6b2obob3o2b3o3b2obo2b2o3bobo4b
2obo3bo5bo3bobobobobo2b2o8bobo5bob3obob3o42b2o6bob6o27b3o18bobob2o$
121bo10bo2b2o7b2ob2o3b2o5b2o2bo5b2o8bob2o2b2o4bobobob2o2bo13bo2b2o4bo
4bo5bo50bo5bo27bo19b2ob5o$132bobobo3b2o8bo3b4o6b4o9bobo9bobob2obo4bobo
12b2o2bo4b3o6b2o51b3o54bo2b2o$121bo11b2obo3bo5b3ob2obo4b6o3bobobo5b2ob
9obobo3bo5b2o15b2o6b2o60bo29bo24b2o3bo11b2o$120bo3b2o10bobobobo5bo2bob
obo2bo5bo3b2ob3o6bo9bobo3b2o120bo3b2o20b5o12b2o$118b2o3bo2bo2b2o5b2obo
bobo4bobo3b2o5b3o10bo5bobo2b2o3b2o124b2o3bo2bo2b2o16b3o$118b3o3bobo2bo
bo7bo3bo5bo11bo11b2o6b2o2b2o129b3o3bobo2bobo$127bo3bo7b2o2b2o180bo3bo$
124bobo4b2o189bobo4b2o7b4o$123b2o196b2o14bo4bo$102b4o14bob2o176b4o14bo
b2o14bobo3bo3bo$101bo4bo14bo177bo4bo14bo15bobo3bo3bobo$101bo3bobo191bo
3bobo29bo9b2o2bobo$102bo3bobo191bo3bobo28bo7b2o2bo2b2o$108bo197bo28bo
2bo5bobo$108bo6bo190bo6bo22b2o6bob6o$105bo2bo6b2o13b2ob2o168bo2bo6b2o
13b2ob2o12bo5bo$106b2o23bobo170b2o23bobo14b3o$103bo11b3o3bo8bo2bo167bo
11b3o3bo8bo2bo16bo$101b3o8b4obo2bobo10bob2o162b3o8b4obo2bobo10bob2o$
100bo3b2o5b3ob2o2b2ob2o5bobobobo162bo3b2o5b3ob2o2b2ob2o5bobobobo$99bob
2obobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o4bobob2obo161bob2obobo4b2o2b2ob2o2b2o4bobob2obo$
99bobobobo5b2ob2o2b2ob3o5b2o3bo162bobobobo5b2ob2o2b2ob3o5b2o3bo$98b2ob
o10bobo2bob4o8b3o162b2obo10bobo2bob4o8b3o$101bo2bo8bo3b3o11bo167bo2bo
8bo3b3o11bo$101bobo23b2o170bobo23b2o$100b2ob2o13b2o6bo2bo168b2ob2o13b
2o6bo2bo$119bo6bo190bo6bo$126bo197bo$126bobo3bo191bobo3bo$127bobo3bo
191bobo3bo$128bo4bo192bo4bo$129b4o194b4o4$112b2o196b2o$112b2o196b2o!
EDIT: major p42 reduction

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x = 42, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$25b2o4$9b2o15bo$5b2obo16b3o$5b2o2bo2bo11bo2b2o$10bobo10b2o$11bo
10b2ob3o$16b2o4b2o2bo$10b2o6bo6b3o6b2ob2o$10b2o3bo3bo3b2o8bobobo$7bo
12bo12bobobo$5b3o6b2obo2bo2bo2bo5b3o2bob2o$4bo3b2o4bobo3bo2bo3bo4b2o3b
obo$3bob2o3bo5bo9bo5bo3b2obo$3bobo3b2o4bo3bo2bo3bobo4b2o3bo$2b2obo2b3o
5bo2bo2bo2bob2o6b3o$5bobobo12bo12bo$5bobobo8b2o3bo3bo3b2o$4b2ob2o6b3o
6bo6b2o$16bo2b2o4b2o$15b3ob2o10bo$18b2o10bobo$14b2o2bo11bo2bo2b2o$15b
3o16bob2o$16bo15b2o2$6b2o$7bo$7bobo$8b2o3$7b2o$2o6b3o6bo$o5bo4bo3b3o$b
3obob5o$3bobo4bo4b2o2bobo11b2o$4bobo2b3o4b2o3bo9b3o6b2o$8b3obo4b3obo8b
o4bo5bo$2bo5b2o5b2o3b3o7b5obob3o$bobo4b2o3bo6bo3b2o5bo4bobo$bobo4b2o3b
o6b2o2bo5b3o2bobo$2bo5b2o5b3o4b3o4bob3o$8b3obo4b3o4b3o5b2o5bo$4bobo2b
3o5bo2b2o6bo3b2o4bobo$3bobo4bo5b2o3bo6bo3b2o4bobo$b3obob5o7b3o3b2o5b2o
5bo$o5bo4bo8bob3o4bob3o$2o6b3o9bo3b2o4b3o2bobo$7b2o11bobo2b2o4bo4bobo$
30b5obob3o$24b3o3bo4bo5bo$24bo6b3o6b2o$33b2o3$32b2o$32bobo$34bo$34b2o
2$8b2o15bo$4b2obo16b3o$4b2o2bo2bo11bo2b2o$9bobo10b2o$10bo10b2ob3o$15b
2o4b2o2bo$9b2o6bo6b3o6b2ob2o$9b2o3bo3bo3b2o8bobobo$6bo12bo12bobobo$4b
3o6b2obo2bo2bo2bo5b3o2bob2o$3bo3b2o4bobo3bo2bo3bo4b2o3bobo$2bob2o3bo5b
o9bo5bo3b2obo$2bobo3b2o4bo3bo2bo3bobo4b2o3bo$b2obo2b3o5bo2bo2bo2bob2o
6b3o$4bobobo12bo12bo$4bobobo8b2o3bo3bo3b2o$3b2ob2o6b3o6bo6b2o$15bo2b2o
4b2o$14b3ob2o10bo$17b2o10bobo$13b2o2bo11bo2bo2b2o$14b3o16bob2o$15bo15b
2o4$15b2o$15b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by iNoMed » January 14th, 2023, 6:18 am

p148 Pi hassler completed, engine originally found by ljkiernan1 on August 2nd 2022 and refound by mvr on January 13th 2023:

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x = 71, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
24b2o2bo2bo$23bobo2b6o$23bo2b2o6bo$24b3ob6o$33bo$24b3o2b4o$23bo2bo3b3o
$12b2o4b2o3bobo30bo5bo$12bo2bobobo4bo5bo25b2o3b2o$14b2obo11b2o25b2o3b
2o7bo$15bobo10b2o27bo3bo6b3o$6b2o7bobobob9o37bo$6bo2b2ob2obobobo16b2o
29b2o$7b2obobobo2bobo13b2o2bo$8bobobobobobo3bo4bo5bo3bobo$8bob3obob2o
7bo5bobo4b2o$9b5o17b2o4$10b3o$11bo$11bo3$12b2o26bo$10bobo27b2o$13bob2o
25bo$13b2ob2o22b2o$14b2o24bo12bo$11b2obo38bo$13bo43bo$17bo38bob2o$17bo
12bo24b2o$29b2o22b2ob2o$28bo25b2obo$29b2o27bobo$30bo26b2o3$59bo$59bo$
58b3o4$38b2o17b5o$31b2o4bobo5bo7b2obob3obo$31bobo3bo5bo4bo3bobobobobob
o$33bo2b2o13bobo2bobobob2o$2b2o29b2o16bobobob2ob2o2bo$3bo37b9obobobo7b
2o$3o6bo3bo27b2o10bobo$o7b2o3b2o25b2o11bob2o$8b2o3b2o25bo5bo4bobobo2bo
$8bo5bo30bobo3b2o4b2o$38b3o3bo2bo$38b4o2b3o$37bo$37b6ob3o$36bo6b2o2bo$
37b6o2bobo$39bo2bo2b2o!
Edit: Smaller.

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x = 71, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
25b2o2bo2bo$24bobo2b6o$24bo2b2o6bo$25b3ob6o$34bo$25b3o2b4o$24bo2bo3b3o
$19b2o3bobo29bo5bo$18bobo4bo5bo24b2o3b2o$18bo11b2o24b2o3b2o7bo$16bobo
10b2o26bo3bo6b3o$14b3obobob9o36bo$13bo4bobo15b2o29b2o$14bo3bobo12b2o2b
o$7b4o4bo3bo3bo4bo4bo3bobo$13bobo10bo4bobo4b2o$9b3ob2o16b2o$10b2o3$10b
3o$11bo$11bo3$12b2o26bo$10bobo27b2o$13bob2o25bo$13b2ob2o22b2o$14b2o24b
o12bo$11b2obo38bo$13bo43bo$17bo38bob2o$17bo12bo24b2o$29b2o22b2ob2o$28b
o25b2obo$29b2o27bobo$30bo26b2o3$59bo$59bo$58b3o3$59b2o$38b2o16b2ob3o$
31b2o4bobo4bo10bobo$31bobo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo4b4o$33bo2b2o12bobo3bo$2b2o
29b2o15bobo4bo$3bo36b9obobob3o$3o6bo3bo26b2o10bobo$o7b2o3b2o24b2o11bo$
8b2o3b2o24bo5bo4bobo$8bo5bo29bobo3b2o$37b3o3bo2bo$37b4o2b3o$36bo$36b6o
b3o$35bo6b2o2bo$36b6o2bobo$38bo2bo2b2o!
Edit 2: Another reduction.

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x = 67, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
32b2o5b2o$33bo3bo2bo$33bob5o$30b3obo$29b3o2bob2o$34b3obo$35b3o$6bo5bo
29b3o3b2o$6b2o3b2o24bo10bobo$6b2o3b2o24b2o11bo$7bo3bo26b2o10bobo$38b9o
bobob3o$31b2o15bobo4bo$31bo2b2o12bobo3bo$2o27bobo3bo4bo4bo3bo3bo4b4o$
2o27b2o4bobo4bo10bobo$36b2o16b2ob3o$57b2o3$56b3o$57bo$57bo3$28bo26b2o$
27b2o27bobo$26bo25b2obo$27b2o22b2ob2o$15bo12bo24b2o$15bo38bob2o$11bo
43bo$9b2obo38bo$12b2o24bo12bo$11b2ob2o22b2o$11bob2o25bo$8bobo27b2o$10b
2o26bo3$9bo$9bo$8b3o3$8b2o$7b3ob2o16b2o$11bobo10bo4bobo4b2o27b2o$5b4o
4bo3bo3bo4bo4bo3bobo27b2o$12bo3bobo12b2o2bo$11bo4bobo15b2o$12b3obobob
9o$14bobo10b2o26bo3bo$16bo11b2o24b2o3b2o$16bobo10bo24b2o3b2o$17b2o3b3o
29bo5bo$29b3o$28bob3o$29b2obo2b3o$32bob3o$27b5obo$26bo2bo3bo$26b2o5b2o
!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by EvinZL » January 14th, 2023, 3:22 pm

These two mvr catsoup results appear to be new:

A period-doubling of the 28 hf hassler

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x = 57, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
21b2o7b2o$22bo7bo$20bo11bo$20b2o9b2o$21bo4bo4bo$18b3ob9ob3o$17bo2bo3bo
bobo3bo2bo$17b2o15b2o13b2o$23b2o3b2o18bobo$48bobobo$21b2ob2ob2ob2o13b
2obo2bobo$6b2o12bo5bo5bo11bo2bobobo2bo$6bobo11b2obo5bob2o10bobo3bobob
2o$4bobobo35bo3b2obo$3bobo2bob2o14bo24bob2o$2bo2bobobo2bo38bobo2bo$2b
2obobo3bobo26b2o4b2o4bo2b2o$5bob2o3bo16bo9bo2bo2bo2bo$2b2obo21b3o10b2o
4b2o4bo2b2o$o2bobo45bobo2bo$2o2bo4b2o4b2o10b3o21bob2o$8bo2bo2bo2bo9bo
16bo3b2obo$2o2bo4b2o4b2o26bobo3bobob2o$o2bobo38bo2bobobo2bo$2b2obo24bo
14b2obo2bobo$5bob2o3bo35bobobo$2b2obobo3bobo10b2obo5bob2o11bobo$2bo2bo
bobo2bo11bo5bo5bo12b2o$3bobo2bob2o13b2ob2ob2ob2o$4bobobo$6bobo18b2o3b
2o$6b2o13b2o15b2o$21bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo$22b3ob9ob3o$25bo4bo4bo$24b2o9b
2o$24bo11bo$26bo7bo$25b2o7b2o!
P48 LoM hassler

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x = 28, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
19bo3bo$18bobobobo$19b2ob2o2$16bo9bo$15bobo7bobo$7b2o6bo3b2ob2o3bo$6bo
bo7bo3bobo3bo$7bo9b2obobob2o$19bo3bo2$12bo$11bobo$10bo3bo$10bo2bo$11bo
5$16bo$14bo2bo$13bo3bo$14bobo$15bo2$4bo3bo$2b2obobob2o9bo$bo3bobo3bo7b
obo$o3b2ob2o3bo6b2o$obo7bobo$bo9bo2$4b2ob2o$3bobobobo$4bo3bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by 83bismuth38 » January 14th, 2023, 5:15 pm

Uhh.. hello? this crazy p18 was discovered by Charity Engine seminaturally in catagolue yesterday, and was discussed on the discord for a couple hours before being promptly forgotten about.

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x = 25, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
2b3o3b2o5b2o3b3o$8bobo3bobo$o8b2o3b2o8bo$o23bo$o9bo3bo9bo$9bobobobo$8bob2ob2o
bo$8bo7bo$2o4b2ob3ob3ob2o4b2o$obo2bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo2bobo$b2obobobo2bobo2bobobo
b2o$5b2ob3o3b3ob2o2$5b2ob3o3b3ob2o$b2obobobo2bobo2bobobob2o$obo2bo2bo2bobo2bo
2bo2bobo$2o4b2ob3ob3ob2o4b2o$8bo7bo$8bob2ob2obo$9bobobobo$o9bo3bo9bo$o23bo$o
8b2o3b2o8bo$8bobo3bobo$2b3o3b2o5b2o3b3o!
its' dimer, and less useful (larger by all measures) monomer discovered by Kazyan:

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x = 40, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
4bo4bo16bo4bo$4bo3b2o16bo3b2o$4bo3bobo11bo3bo3bobo$9bo6b2o2b2o9bo6b2o$
3o11bo2bo4b2o12bo2bo$14b2o5bo3b3o8b2o$10bobobo17bobobo$9bob2o2bo8bo3bo
3b2obo2bo$b2o6bo4b2o9bobo7bob2o$2obo3b3o16bo8bo$2bo3bo14b2o2b3o2b2o2b
2o$7bo13bo9bo$6b2o14b2o5b2o2$4b3obo13b2o5b2o$5bob2o12bo9bo$3bo17b2o2b
3o2b2o$3b2o21bo$25bobo$24bo3bo2$25b3o!
the most obvious detail about charity's p18 is the particularly unusual 2obo spark, which can be used as a domino and reduces a p36 to 320 cells from 410 by replacing 104p9s:

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x = 51, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
23b2ob2o2b2o$21bo2bobobo2bo$19bo4bobobobo$16bo2b2ob5o4b3o$11b2o3b3o4bo
4b2obo2bo$11bobo5b4ob2o3bobo2bo$13bo2b2o10bo2b3o$12b2obob2ob7obobo$12b
o2bo12bobob2o$14bob3ob4ob3o3bobo$13b2o3b2o4b2o$14bo$9b2obo$9bob3o9bo7b
2o$22bo2bo5bo$10b2o14bob2obo$10bo4b3o3bo8bo$11bo3bobo2bo3bo$8b3o3bo5bo
2bobo$2b2o4bo4bo4bobo3bo3bo9bob2o$2bo2b2obo5bo3bo2bo5bo8bo6b2o$3bobobo
14bo3bo9bo7bo$2b2o10bo3bo4b3o10bo6b2o$o2bo5bo23b3o2bobobo6b2o$2o6bobob
o2b3o23bo5bo2bo$6b2o6bo10b3o4bo3bo10b2o$6bo7bo9bo3bo14bobobo$6b2o6bo8b
o5bo2bo3bo5bob2o2bo$9b2obo9bo3bo3bobo4bo4bo4b2o$25bobo2bo5bo3b3o$26bo
3bo2bobo3bo$20bo8bo3b3o4bo$19bob2obo14b2o$19bo5bo2bo$18b2o7bo9b3obo$
38bob2o$36bo$25b2o4b2o3b2o$17bobo3b3ob4ob3obo$17b2obobo12bo2bo$20bobob
7ob2obob2o$17b3o2bo10b2o2bo$16bo2bobo3b2ob4o5bobo$16bo2bob2o4bo4b3o3b
2o$17b3o4b5ob2o2bo$20bobobobo4bo$19bo2bobobo2bo$19b2o2b2ob2o!
the oscillator also implies a fun reaction using the ship and blinker, which can be tacked on to a few oscillators (also featured is the asymmetric variant of the dimer reaction):

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x = 56, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
2b2o40b2o$3bo39bobo$3bobo36bo6b2o$4b2o27b2o7bo2bo2bo2bob2o$33b2o7bo6b
2o2bobo$13b2o28bobo8b2o$2o10bo31b2o$bo9bo2b5o6b2o$bobo7bo4bo2bo2b2ob2o
$2b2o13b3obo33bo$7b2ob2o13b2o28bo$9b3o14bo28bo$20b2o3bo2bo$20b5o3bo17b
2o3b3o$28bo16bobo$45b2o2$2b2o7b2o32bo$bobo6bo2bob2o27bobo$bo9b2o2bobo
26bobo$2o14b2o27bo$6bo$6bo$6bobo33b2obob2o$6bob2o2bo4bo24bo5bo$8b2o2b
3o2bo25bo3bo$12bo4bo26b3o$4bo2b2o$3bobo2bo6bo$3bo2b2o5b2o$2b2o11b2o$
14bo3$45b2o$45b2o!
...some less successfully than others. hopefully there's a way to phase shift the blinker back? a p31 2obo would be nice:

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x = 46, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
7b3o4b3o$6bob2ob2ob2obo$2o4bo4b2o4bo4b2o$2o5bo2b4o2bo5b2o$7bo2bo2bo2bo
6$7bo2bo2bo2bo$2o5bo2b4o2bo5b2o$2o4bo4b2o4bo4bobo$6bob2ob2ob2obo5b2o$
7b3o4b3o4$23b3o2$27bo$27bo4b2o$27bo4bobo7b2o$33b2o7b2o5$32b2o9b2o$31bo
2b2o5b2o2bo$31b2o11b2o$31b2o11b2o$34b2o5b2o$32b3o7b3o$32b3o7b3o$34b2o
5b2o$31b2o11b2o$31b2o11b2o$31bo2b2o5b2o2bo$32b2o9b2o5$33b2o7b2o$33b2o
7b2o!
it also works with any even period of gun above 24:

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x = 42, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6b3o13b2o$9bo9b2o2bo$8b2o8bobobo$20bob2o$22bo$11bo4bo2bo2bo$10b3o
4bobob2obo$10bobo5b2o3b2o$11b2o7b2o$20bo$22bo$16b2o3b2o$16bobo$18bo$
11bo6b2o$7bo4b2o$5bo2bo2b2o$5bo2bo$6bo2$17bo$7b2o9b2o$b2obo3bo8b2o$bob
5o3b2o$7bobo2bo$2b3o4b2o$2bo3b3o6bo$3bo4bo4b3o8b2o$7bo4bo10b2o$6bo5b2o
6bo2$24b2o$8bo15bobo$9bo3b2o10b2o3b3o$6b2obob2ob2o$12b3o19bo$2b2o4b2o
3bo20bo$bobo13b2o15bo$bo14bo$2o17bo$17b2o$33b2o$28bo3bobo$7b2o19b2o2b
2o$b2obo3bo20bo$bob5o3b2o$7bobo2bo$2b3o4b2o19bo$2bo3b3o6bo6bo17bo$3bo
4bo4b3o6b2o14bo2bo$7bo4bo8bobo14bo2bo$6bo5b2o25bo$27b2o6bo$28bo5b3o$
16bo11bobo3bob2o$7b3o6b2o6b2o3b2o4b2o$6b2obo5bobo6bo10bo$7b2o17bo$2b2o
21b2o7b2obo$bobo13b2o3b2o3b2o4bo3bo$bo14bo5bob2obobo5bo$2o17bo4bo2bo2b
o4bo$17b2o5bo$23b2obo$24bobobo8b2o$23bo2b2o9bo$23b2o13b3o$40bo!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » January 14th, 2023, 6:55 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:
January 14th, 2023, 5:15 pm
the most obvious detail about charity's p18 is the particularly unusual 2obo spark, which can be used as a domino and reduces a p36 to 320 cells from 410 by replacing 104p9s:

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rle
Combining that reduction and the reduction I had on the p36 honey farm hassler long ago:

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x = 106, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
78b2o$78bo$11b2o2b2o4bo4b2o45b2obobo$11bo2bo2bobo3bobo2bo44bob2ob2o$
12bob3o9b3o48bo3b3o$11b2o4b2o5b2o42b2o4b2o2b2o2bo$7b2o3bo3bo2b5o2bo42b
o3bo2bob2o$7bo2bo5b2o7b2o37b2obo5b2o3bo$9b3o17b2o33bob3o17b2o$5b4o20bo
56bo$5bo3bo17bobo14b2o19b2o17bobo$8bo12b2o4b2o15bo20bo12b2o4b2o$8b2o3b
o6bo2bo17b2obo21bo3bo6bo2bo$12bob2o5b3o10bo5bob2o19b3o3bob2o5b3o$4b2o
7b2o7bo11bobo4bo15b2o4bo6b2o7bo$3bobo27bobo5bo15bo2b2obo28bo4bo$3bobob
2o26bo4b2o16bobobo29bo3b2o$b2obobo3bo27b2obobo13b2o33bo3bobo$o3bobobob
o2b3o20bo6b3o9bo2bo11b3o24bo6b2o$b3o6bo20b3o2bobobobo3bo8b2o6bo24b3o
11bo2bo$3bobob2o27bo3bobob2o16bobo3bo33b2o$5b2o4bo26b2obobo19b2o3bo29b
obobo$5bo5bobo27bobo19bo4bo28bob2o2bo$5bo4bobo11bo7b2o7b2o38bo7b2o6bo
4b2o$3b2obo5bo10b3o5b2obo45b3o5b2obo3b3o$2bob2o17bo2bo6bo3b2o41bo2bo6b
o3bo$2bo15b2o4b2o12bo36b2o4b2o12bo$b2o14bobo17bo3bo32bobo17b2o$17bo20b
4o32bo$16b2o17b3o35b2o17b3obo$20b2o7b2o5bo2bo42bo3b2o5bob2o$20bo2b5o2b
o3bo3b2o41b2obo2bo3bo$21b2o5b2o4b2o42bo2b2o2b2o4b2o$18b3o9b3obo42b3o3b
o$18bo2bobo3bobo2bo2bo45b2ob2obo$19b2o4bo4b2o2b2o46bobob2o$82bo$81b2o!
(left is bounding box reduction, and right is population reduction)

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » January 15th, 2023, 12:59 am

On January 14, 2023 at 13:48:04 UTC Charity Engine found a double glider eater for the p156 gun that I don't recall seeing before:

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x = 44, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
3b2o34b2o$3b2o16b2o16b2o$21b2o$2o40b2o$2o9bo20bo9b2o$10bobo10b2o6bobo$
10bobo10b2o2b2o2bobo$11bo15b2o3bo3$5b2o30b2o$4bo2bo6b3o19bo2bo$5b2o7bo
22b2o$15bo10b3o$11b2o13bobo$11bobo12bo2b2o5b2o$11bo18bo5b2o$28b3o2$37b
2o$37b2o$b2o38b2o$b2o38b2o$5b2o$5b2o2$13b3o$6b2o5bo18bo$6b2o5b2o2bo12b
obo$15bobo13b2o$15b3o10bo$5b2o22bo7b2o$4bo2bo19b3o6bo2bo$5b2o30b2o3$
11bo3b2o15bo$10bobo2b2o2b2o10bobo$10bobo6b2o10bobo$2o9bo20bo9b2o$2o40b
2o$21b2o$3b2o16b2o16b2o$3b2o34b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » January 15th, 2023, 11:59 am

p40 flop hassler

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x = 44, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
40b2o$b2o5b2o30bobo$o2bo2b3obob2o23b2obobo$3o2bo4bobo24bobobo$3b3obo2b
o2bo20b2obobo$2bo8bobo2bo16bobobob2o$2b10ob4o15bo3b2o3bo$6bo10b2o12bo
5bobobo$4b2o3bob6o2bo11b2o4bo3b2o$4bo4b2o5bobobo13b2obo4bo$5bo4bob2obo
b2obo10b4o2bob3o$6bobobo4bo4b2o9bo3bob2o$7b2ob2obo3bobo13bobo4b2o$15b
3obo11bobobob3obo$18bo16bobo$30bob2obobo$30bo3b2ob2o$22bobo5b2obo2bo$
21bo2bo4bo3b2obo$21bo2bo5b2o3bo$21b3o8b3o$32bo$11bo$9b3o8b3o$8bo3b2o5b
o2bo$7bob2o3bo4bo2bo$7bo2bob2o5bobo$5b2ob2o3bo$6bobob2obo$6bobo16bo$2b
ob3obobobo11bob3o$2b2o4bobo13bobo3bob2ob2o$5b2obo3bo9b2o4bo4bobobo$2b
3obo2b4o10bob2obob2obo4bo$bo4bob2o13bobobo5b2o4bo$b2o3bo4b2o11bo2b6obo
3b2o$2bobobo5bo12b2o10bo$2bo3b2o3bo15b4ob10o$3b2obobobo16bo2bobo8bo$4b
obob2o20bo2bo2bob3o$2bobobo24bobo4bo2b3o$bobob2o23b2obob3o2bo2bo$bobo
30b2o5b2o$2b2o!
Partials:

p15

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo6bo$obo5bo$bo5b3o$bo4b5o$bo$bo$obo13bo$bo14bo$bo13bobo$16bo$16bo$
7b5o4bo$8b3o5bo$9bo5bobo$9bo6bo$16bo!
p19

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x = 21, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bobo$3b3obo$2bo4bob2o$2bobobobobo$3b2obobo$7bobo$7b2obo$9bobo$12b
o5b2o$b2o10bo3b3o$b3o2b2o2bo2b2o2b4o$4ob3obobob3ob4o$4o2b2o2bo2b2o2b3o
$b3o3bo10b2o$b2o5bo$9bobo$10bob2o$11bobo$12bobob2o$10bobobobobo$10b2ob
o4bo$13bob3o$13bobo$14bo!
tiny p20

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o4bo$7bo$6b3o$6b2o$b2o3b3o$bob2o2bo$3b2o2bo$3bo3$2o$2o!
p20

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x = 23, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o$20b2o$19b3o$12bo6b4o$10b2o3b2o2b3o$6b2o8b2o2b2o$b2o2b2o8b2o$
b3o2b2o3b2o$4o6bo$b3o$b2o$15b2o$15b2o!
p26

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
5b2ob2o$4b4obo$2b2ob3obo$2b3o$2b3o$o2$12bo$8b3o$8b3o$3bob3ob2o$3bob4o$
3b2ob2o!
p38

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x = 17, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$5bo2bo$2b3o3b3o$bo3b3o3bo$b2obo3b3o$5b2obo$ob2o4bo6b2o$2ob3o9bo$
5bo4bob2obo$5bo8bo$4bo3bo$4bo2bobo$2bobo3bo3bo$2bo2bo5bo$6bo3bo$7b3o3$
2b2o$bobo$bo10b2ob2o$2o7bobob2obo$8bob2o$6b3o3bob2o$5bo3b3o3bo$6b3o3b
3o$8bo2bo$11b2o!
p38

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x = 22, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$13bo2bo$11b3o3b3o$10bo3b3o3bo$11b3o3bob2o$13bob2o$14bobob2obo$4b
2o11b2ob2o$4bobo$5bo3$9b2o$8bobo3bo3bo$8bobo3b2o2bo$8b2o4b3o$9b2o3b2o$
10b5o$11b3o$8b3o$7b5o$6b2o3b2o$5b3o4b2o$3bo2b2o3bobo$3bo3bo3bobo$11b2o
3$16bo$15bobo$2ob2o11b2o$ob2obobo$5b2obo$b2obo3b3o$bo3b3o3bo$2b3o3b3o$
5bo2bo$4b2o!
p40, two different ways shown

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x = 50, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$8bo2bo$6b3o3b3o26b2o$5bo3b3o3bo24bo2bo$6b3o4b3o24bobo$8bob2o29bo
b2o$2o7bobob2obo25b3o$bo11bob2o15b2o9b2o$bobo29bo$2b2o29bobo$7bo26b2o$
6bo32bo6bo$5bo6bo25bo2bo4bo$3bo2bo5bo24bo4b3o$3bo3bo27bo2bo5bo$8bobo
24bo3bo$8b2o30bobo$7b2o31b2o$39b2o$14b2o$14bobo29b2o$b2ob2o10bo29bobo$
bob2obobo7b2o30bo$6b2obo27b2o9b2o$2b2obo3b3o25b3o$2bo3b3o3bo24b2obo$3b
3o3b3o27bobo$6bo2bo28bo2bo$5b2o32b2o!
p44

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x = 20, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$11bo2bo$9b3o3b3o$8bo3b3o3bo$9b3o3bob2o$11bob2o$3b2o7bobob2obo$4b
o10b2ob2o$4bobo$5b2o3$11b2o3b2o$10bobo2b3o$10bo4b4o$10bo4b4o$9bo3bob3o
$8bo4bo2b2o$7bo4bo$7bo4bo$2b2o2bo4bo$2b3obo3bo$b4o4bo$b4o4bo$2b3o2bobo
$2b2o3b2o3$13b2o$13bobo$2ob2o10bo$ob2obobo7b2o$5b2obo$b2obo3b3o$bo3b3o
3bo$2b3o3b3o$5bo2bo$4b2o!
p44

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x = 22, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$8bo2bo$6b3o3b3o$5bo3b3o3bo$6b3o3bob2o$8bob2o$2o7bobob2obo$bo7b2o
b2ob2o$bobo3b3o$2b3ob5o$4b3o3b2o$4b3o3b3o$5b2o3b2o$2b2o2b5o$2b3o2b3o$b
4o3bo9b2o$2b3o12b3o$2b2o9bo3b4o$12b3o2b3o$11b5o2b2o$10b2o3b2o$9b3o3b3o
$10b2o3b3o$11b5ob3o$12b3o3bobo$5b2ob2ob2o7bo$5bob2obobo7b2o$10b2obo$6b
2obo3b3o$6bo3b3o3bo$7b3o3b3o$10bo2bo$9b2o!
p46

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x = 40, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$5b3obo$4bo4bob2o$4bobobobobo$5b2obobo$9bobo$10bo2$11b3o$2o8b
o3bo$2o7bo5bo$9bo5bo$9bo5bo$10bo3bo$11b3o6$26b3o$25bo3bo$24bo5bo$24bo
5bo$24bo5bo7b2o$25bo3bo8b2o$26b3o2$29bo$28bobo$29bobob2o$27bobobobobo$
27b2obo4bo$30bob3o$30bobo$31bo!
p49

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x = 19, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$8bo2bo$6b3o3b3o$5bo3b3o3bo$6b3o3bob2o$8bob2o$2o7bobob2obo$bo10b
2ob2o$bobo$2b2o$8b2o$7b3o6b2o$5bo3bo2b2ob3o$6b3o3bo2b4o$7bo4bo2b4o$15b
3o$16b2o2$b2o$b3o$4o2bo4bo$4o2bo3b3o$b3ob2o2bo3bo$b2o6b3o$9b2o$15b2o$
15bobo$2b2ob2o10bo$2bob2obobo7b2o$7b2obo$3b2obo3b3o$3bo3b3o3bo$4b3o3b
3o$7bo2bo$6b2o!
p51

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x = 26, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18b2o6$11b2o$3b2o6b2o$2bo2bo$2bob2o$b2o$o3b2o$b3o2bo16bo$4b2obo
2b2o6b2o3bo$3bo2bo3b2o7b2ob3o$3b2o10b2o2bo2b2o$16b3o3b2o$17bo4b3o$23bo
$23bo3$2bo$2bo$b3o4bo$2b2o3b3o$2b2o2bo2b2o10b2o$b3ob2o7b2o3bo2bo$2bo3b
2o6b2o2bob2o$2bo16bo2b3o$20b2o3bo$23b2o$20b2obo$20bo2bo$13b2o6b2o$13b
2o6$6b2o$6b2o!
p54

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x = 30, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$21bo2bo$19b3o3b3o$18bo3b3o3bo$19b3o3bob2o$21bob2o$22bobob2obo$
12b2o11b2ob2o$12bobo$13bo2$15b2o$3bo15b2o$3bo11b2ob4o$2b3o13bo2b2o3bo$
3b2o4bo7b3ob3o2bo$3b2o3b3o7b2ob2o2b3o$2b3o2b2ob2o7b3o3b2o$3bo2b3ob3o7b
o4b2o$3bo3b2o2bo13b3o$8b4ob2o11bo$9b2o15bo$13b2o2$16bo$15bobo$2ob2o11b
2o$ob2obobo$5b2obo$b2obo3b3o$bo3b3o3bo$2b3o3b3o$5bo2bo$4b2o!
p56

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x = 29, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$2b3obo$bo4bob2o$bobobobobo$2b2obobo$6bobo16bo$7bo17bo$24b3o$
24b2o$7b2o9b3o3b2o$2o5b2o3b2o10b3o$2o9bo2bob2o3b2o2bo$12b2o2b2o3b2o2bo
$17bo3bo$9bo7bobobo$8b3o7b3o$7bobobo7bo$7bo3bo$3bo2b2o3b2o2b2o$3bo2b2o
3b2obo2bo9b2o$2b3o10b2o3b2o5b2o$3b2o3b3o9b2o$3b2o$2b3o$3bo17bo$3bo16bo
bo$21bobob2o$19bobobobobo$19b2obo4bo$22bob3o$22bobo$23bo!
p69 glider gun

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x = 20, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$2b3obo$bo4bob2o$bobobobobo$2b2obobo$4b2ob2o$6bo3bo$7b4o$8b2o
bo$10b4o$2o3bob6obo$2ob2o2b2obo2b3obo$4bo4bo4bo2bo$5b2o5b2o$7bo3bo$7bo
bobo$8b3o$9bo7$10bo$9b3o$8bobobo$8bo3bo$6b2o5b2o$2bo2bo4bo4bo$2bob3o2b
ob2o2b2ob2o$5bob6obo3b2o$6b4o$8bob2o$9b4o$9bo3bo$11b2ob2o$12bobob2o$
10bobobobobo$10b2obo4bo$13bob3o$13bobo$14bo!
p89

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x = 36, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
20bo$6b2o10b3o$3b2o2bo9bo$2bobobo10b2o$2bo3b2o$obobo2bo20b2o$2obob2o
14bo5b3o$3bobo15bo5b4o$3bo2bo14bo5b4o$b2ob2o6b3o12b3o$2bobo7bobo2b3o3b
3o2b2o$2bobo6b2obo$3bo17b3o$20bo2bo$20bo3bo$19b2ob2o$10bob3o5bobo$10b
4obo4bob4o$13bobo5b3obo$12b2ob2o$11bo3bo$12bo2bo$12b3o17bo$21bob2o6bob
o$6b2o2b3o3b3o2bobo7bobo$6b3o12b3o6b2ob2o$5b4o5bo14bo2bo$5b4o5bo15bobo
$6b3o5bo14b2obob2o$6b2o20bo2bobobo$28b2o3bo$17b2o10bobobo$18bo9bo2b2o$
15b3o10b2o$15bo!
p94

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x = 20, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$11bo2bo$9b3o3b3o$8bo3b3o3bo$9b3o3bob2o$11bob2o$12bobob2obo$2b2o
11b2ob2o$2bobo$3bo5$9bo6b2o$8b3o4b3o$7b5o3b4o$6b2o3b2o2b3o$5b3o4b2o2b
2o$6b2o3bobo$7bo3bobo$11b2o3$16bo$15bobo$2ob2o11b2o$ob2obobo$5b2obo$b
2obo3b3o$bo3b3o3bo$2b3o3b3o$5bo2bo$4b2o!
p108 (check generation 54), two different ways shown

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x = 17, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2b2o$8b7o$8bobo3bo$obo6bo4bo$obo6b5o$3o7b2o3b2o$5bo$4bobo$4bob
o$5bo6$8b2o$7bo2b2o$8b7o$8bobo3bo$obo6bo4bo$obo6b5o$3o7b2o3bo$5bo9bo$
4bobo$4bobo$5bo!
p112, two different ways shown

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x = 60, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
45b2o$4b2o40bo2bo$5bo2bo34b3o3b3o$2b3o3b3o31bo3b3o3bo$bo3b3o3bo30b2obo
3b3o$b2obo3b3o35b2obo$5b2obo32bob2obobo$ob2obobo33b2ob2o11b2o$2ob2o11b
2o38bobo$15bobo39bo$16bo3$49bo$8bo39bobo$7bobo38bobo$7bobo39bo$8bo8b2o
34b2o$12b2o2b3o34b2o3bo$12b2o2b4o35bo2bo$14bob4o32bobo2b3o$11bobo2b3o
33b3o2b2o$11b3o3b2o38b3o$58bo$58bo2$43bo$2bo39bobo$bobo38b2o11b2ob2o$b
2o11b2ob2o33bobob2obo$11bobob2obo32bob2o$10bob2o35b3o3bob2o$8b3o3bob2o
30bo3b3o3bo$7bo3b3o3bo31b3o3b3o$8b3o3b3o34bo2bo$10bo2bo40b2o$13b2o!
p144

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x = 27, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
7bo$7b3o$10bo$9b2o4$25b2o$25bo$2b2o3b2o7b2o5bobo$2b3obo2bo5bo2bo4b2o$b
4o2b2o7b2o$2b3o5bo2bo$2b2o6bo2bo$9bo4bo$10bo2bo$2b2o6bo2bo$bobo6b2o$bo
7b2o$2o7bo4$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo!
p254 (=2×127)

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x = 43, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
5bo31bo$3bo2bo5bo17bo5bo2bo$o2bo3bo2bobo17bobo2bo3bo2bo$obo3bo3bobo17b
obo3bo3bobo$3b3o4bo21bo4b3o$3b3o5bobo15bobo5b3o2$11b3o15b3o3$12b2o5b2o
b2o5b2o$11b2obo5bobo5bob2o$11bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo$11b3o5b2ob2o5b3o$12b2o
15b2o2$12b2o15b2o$11b3o5b2ob2o5b3o$11bo2bo5bobo5bo2bo$11b2obo5bobo5bob
2o$12b2o5b2ob2o5b2o3$11b3o15b3o2$3b3o5bobo15bobo5b3o$3b3o4bo21bo4b3o$o
bo3bo3bobo17bobo3bo3bobo$o2bo3bo2bobo17bobo2bo3bo2bo$3bo2bo5bo17bo5bo
2bo$5bo31bo!
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries

Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Anivec » January 16th, 2023, 11:13 am

Cross posting from Discord
P18 by mvr, reduced by INoMed:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
6b2o8bo$2b2obobo6b3o$3bobo7bo$3bobo7b2o$2obobo$o2bobobo$b2o3bo$3b3o6bo
4b2o$3bo6b3o4b2o$bobo5b2o$b2o7b2o3$5b2o$4bobo$4bo7b2o$3b2o7bo$13b3o$
15bo!
P69 by mvr:

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
10b2ob2o3b2o$9bobobo4bobob2o$9bo3bo6bobo$7b2ob3o6b2obo$6bobobo11bob2o$
6bobo10b4o2bo$4b2o2bo10bo3b2o$3bo4b2o10b3o$3b5o5b3o6bo$b2o4bo6bo7bobo$
o2b2o9bob2o5b2o$2obo10b2o$3bo26bo$3o26bobo$o28bobo$28b2ob3o$34bo$4bob
2o20b2ob3o$2b3ob2o20b2obo$bo$2b3ob2o$4bobo28bo$4bobo26b3o$5bo26bo$20b
2o10bob2o$11b2o5b2obo9b2o2bo$11bobo7bo6bo4b2o$13bo6b3o5b5o$13b3o10b2o
4bo$11b2o3bo10bo2b2o$10bo2b4o10bobo$10b2obo11bobobo$13bob2o6b3ob2o$13b
obo6bo3bo$12b2obobo4bobobo$16b2o3b2ob2o!
P88 LOM hassler by mvr:

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x = 30, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
18b2ob6o$7b2o9b2ob6o$7b2obo7b2o$11bo6b2o5b2o$8bo9b2o5b2o$9bob2o5b2o5b2o$11b2o
12b2o$18b6ob2o$18b6ob2o2$11b2o4$b2o$bobo$3bo18b2o$3b3o16bobob2o$b2o3bo8bo8bob
o$o2b4o8bo7b2obo$2obo10b2o10bob2o$3bob2o7bo8b4o2bo$3bobo8bo8bo3b2o$2b2obobo
16b3o$6b2o18bo$26bobo$27b2o4$17b2o2$3b2ob6o$3b2ob6o$3b2o12b2o$3b2o5b2o5b2obo$
3b2o5b2o9bo$3b2o5b2o6bo$10b2o7bob2o$3b6ob2o9b2o$3b6ob2o!
P96 LOM hassler by mvr:

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x = 46, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
15b2o7b2o$16bo7bo$14bo11bo$14b2o9b2o2$12b3o4b3o4b3o$11bo2b5obob5o2bo$11b2o3b
2o5b2o3b2o$17bo5bo$17bo5bo$15b4o3b4o$14bo3bobobo3bo$bobo2bo7b2ob7ob2o$b3obob
2o10b3o$o6bo$bo5b2o25bo$33b2o$2o5bo25b2o$bo6bo24bo$2obob3o$2bo2bobo14bo$21b3o
$21bo2bo$22b3o$23bo14bobo2bo$38b3obob2o$12bo24bo6bo$11b2o25bo5b2o$11b2o$11bo
25b2o5bo$38bo6bo$24b3o10b2obob3o$19b2ob7ob2o7bo2bobo$19bo3bobobo3bo$20b4o3b4o
$22bo5bo$22bo5bo$16b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o$16bo2b5obob5o2bo$17b3o4b3o4b3o2$19b2o9b2o$
19bo11bo$21bo7bo$20b2o7b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: The LOM hassler was already known as of January 8, 2023, with different sparkers. Combining it with this the smallest form is

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x = 36, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
10b2o7b2o$11bo7bo$9bo11bo$9b2o9b2o$10bo4bo4bo$7b3ob9ob3o$6bo2bo3bobob
o3bo2bo$6b2o15b2o$12b2o3b2o2$10b2ob2ob2ob2o$2b2o5bo5bo5bo$o2bo5b2obo5b
ob2o2$o2bo11bo$bo2bo23b2o$2bobo25bo$3bo23bo$28b2o$2b2o$2b2o12b3o$16bo
bo$16bo2bo$17bobo$17b3o12b2o$32b2o$6b2o$8bo23bo$5bo25bobo$6b2o23bo2bo
$20bo11bo2bo2$14b2obo5bob2o5bo2bo$14bo5bo5bo5b2o$15b2ob2ob2ob2o2$17b2o
3b2o$11b2o15b2o$11bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo$12b3ob9ob3o$15bo4bo4bo$14b2o9b2o
$14bo11bo$16bo7bo$15b2o7b2o!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by rattlesnake » January 17th, 2023, 2:19 am

Further reduction to the p18:

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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 6 ]]
x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
6b2o8bo$5bobo6b3o$b2o2bo7bo$bobobo7b2o$3bobo$3bobobo$b2o3bo$o2b3o6bo4b
2o$2obo6b3o4b2o$3bo5b2o$3b2o5b2o3$5b2o$4bobo$4bo7b2o$3b2o7bo$13b3o$15b
o!
And a reduction to the p69:

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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 23 ]]
x = 36, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
10b2o6b2o$9bobo6bobob2o$9bo10bobo$7b2ob4o5b2obo$6bobobo2bo8bob2o$6bob
o10b4o2bo$4b2o2bo10bo3b2o$3bo4b2o10b3o$3b5o5b3o6bo$b2o4bo6bo7bobo$o2b
2o9bob2o5b2o$2obo10b2o$3bo26bo$3b2o24bobo$29bobo$28b2ob3o$34bo$4bob2o
20b2ob3o$2b3ob2o20b2obo$bo$2b3ob2o$4bobo$4bobo24b2o$5bo26bo$20b2o10bo
b2o$11b2o5b2obo9b2o2bo$11bobo7bo6bo4b2o$13bo6b3o5b5o$13b3o10b2o4bo$11b
2o3bo10bo2b2o$10bo2b4o10bobo$10b2obo8bo2bobobo$13bob2o5b4ob2o$13bobo10b
o$12b2obobo6bobo$16b2o6b2o!
And a reduction to the p88:

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 #C [[ THEME 6 GPS 22 ]]
x = 30, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$19bobo2bo$5bo3bo9b3obob2o$5bo4bo7bo6bo$7bobobo7bo5b2o$8bobobo$9b
o4bo3b2o5bo$10bo3bo4bo6bo$18b2obob3o$11b2o7bo2bobo6$3b2o$3bo$2obo18b2o
$o2b3o9bo6bobo$b2o3bo6b2ob2o6bo2b2o$3b4o6b2ob2o5b2obobo$3bo22bo$bobob
2o5b2ob2o6b4o$b2o2bo6b2ob2o6bo3b2o$5bobo6bo9b3o2bo$6b2o18bob2o$26bo$25b
2o6$4bobo2bo7b2o$4b3obob2o$3bo6bo4bo3bo$4bo5b2o3bo4bo$17bobobo$3b2o5b
o7bobobo$4bo6bo7bo4bo$3b2obob3o9bo3bo$5bo2bobo$21b2o!
Last edited by rattlesnake on January 18th, 2023, 9:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by carsoncheng » January 17th, 2023, 11:48 am

P65 HF hassler found by me:

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x = 47, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$21b2o8bo$29b3o$28bo$28b2o3$4b2o21bo$4bobo18b2obo5b2o$7bo6bo10bo
2bo5b2o5b2o$5b2obo4bobo9b3o12bobo$2o2bo3bo5bo24bo$2o2bo3b2o28bob2o$4b
o5bo27bo3bo2b2o$7bob2o26b2o3bo2b2o$4bo5bo25bo5bo$2o2bo3b2o26b2obo$2o2b
o3bo27bo5bo$5b2obo28b2o3bo2b2o$7bo24bo5bo3bo2b2o$4bobo12b3o9bobo4bob2o
$4b2o5b2o5bo2bo10bo6bo$11b2o5bob2o18bobo$19bo21b2o3$17b2o$18bo$15b3o$
15bo8b2o$24b2o!
P60 TL + blinker hassler, partial by mvr and completion by me:

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x = 41, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
21bo$20bobo$20bobo$18b3ob2o$17bo$18b3ob2o6b2o$20bob2o6bo$31bo$30b2o$29b
o$29b3o$5b2o25bo$5b2o24b2o$24b3o$3b6o$2bo2bo3bo9b4o5bo$2b2o3b2o10b4o5b
o$7bo11b4o5bo$5bobo$o4bobo16b3o7b2o$3o5bo25b2o$3bo4bo$2bo5bo23b6o$2b2o
4bo22bo3bo2bo$8bo23b2o3b2o$5bobo25bo$5bobo25bobo$7bo25bobo$2b2o3b2o23b
o$2bo2bo3bo22bo4b2o$3b6o23bo5bo$32bo4bo$5b2o25bo5b3o$5b2o7b3o16bobo4b
o$33bobo$12bo5b4o11bo$12bo5b4o10b2o3b2o$12bo5b4o9bo3bo2bo$32b6o$14b3o
$8b2o24b2o$8bo25b2o$9b3o$11bo$9b2o$9bo$10bo6b2obo$9b2o6b2ob3o$23bo$17b
2ob3o$18bobo$18bobo$19bo!
P96 TL hassler, banana sparker with decent diagonal clearance, found by me:

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x = 46, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
17bo2$15bob3o$17b2obo$17bob2o$18b3obo2$20bo2$15bo$14bobo$15bo4b2o2b2o
$19bob2ob2o$18bo2bo$19b2o$9bo$8bobo$2o7bo$2obo$4bo5b2o$bo7b3o$2bob2o3b
3o$4b2o12bobo$18bo2bo12b2o$18bobo13b2o$10b2o13bobo$10b2o12bo2bo$25bob
o12b2o$34b3o3b2obo$34b3o7bo$34b2o5bo$42bob2o$36bo7b2o$35bobo$36bo$25b
2o$24bo2bo$20b2ob2obo$20b2o2b2o4bo$29bobo$30bo2$25bo2$23bob3o$25b2obo
$25bob2o$26b3obo2$28bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Period1GliderGun » January 17th, 2023, 12:52 pm

Completed hotdogPi's p46 partial:

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x = 94, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
35bo$34bobo$32b3obo$31bo4bob2o$31bobobobobo$32b2obobo$36bobo$37bo41bo
$78bo2bo$38b3o24b2o10b5o10b2o$27b2o8bo3bo23b2o9b2ob3o10b2o$27b2o7bo5b
o34bob2o$36bo5bo35b2o$36bo5bo$37bo3bo36b2o8b2o$38b3o36bob2o6b3obo$76b
2ob3o4bo4b3o$14bo62b5o5b3obo$4b2o6bo2bo62bo2bo6b2o$2bob3o5b5o62bo$3o4b
o4b3ob2o$2bob3o6b2obo36b3o$4b2o8b2o36bo3bo$51bo5bo$14b2o35bo5bo$13b2o
bo34bo5bo7b2o$2o10b3ob2o9b2o23bo3bo8b2o$2o10b5o10b2o24b3o$12bo2bo$14b
o41bo$55bobo$56bobob2o$54bobobobobo$54b2obo4bo$57bob3o$57bobo$58bo!
There is probably a smaller one, bounding box- and/or population-wise.
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by rattlesnake » January 17th, 2023, 8:11 pm

A population reduction:

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x = 94, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
35bo$34bobo$32b3obo$31bo4bob2o$31bobobobobo$32b2obobo$36bobo$37bo42bo
$79b2o$39bo25b2o11b3obo9b2o$27b2o9bobo24b2o10b2o13b2o$27b2o8bo3bo36b2o
$37bo3bo37bo$37bo3bo$38bobo38bo$39bo16bobo19b2o$55bo3bo17b2o13b2o$13b
o24bo19bo19b3obo9b2o$13b2o20bo3bo14bo3bo20b2o$2o9bob3o19bo19bo24bo$2o
13b2o17bo3bo$14b2o19bobo16bo$14bo38bobo$52bo3bo$14bo37bo3bo$14b2o36bo
3bo8b2o$2o13b2o10b2o24bobo9b2o$2o9bob3o11b2o25bo$13b2o$13bo42bo$55bob
o$56bobob2o$54bobobobobo$54b2obo4bo$57bob3o$57bobo$58bo!
A bounding box reduction:

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x = 88, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
31b2o3bo$29b3obobobo$28bo4bobobo$28bobobobobo46b2o$29b2obobo48bobo$33b
obo48bo$34bo2$62b2o12b2o2bo6bo$24b2o36b2o12bob2o6b2o$24b2o10b2o39bo$36b
obo38b3o$36bobo$3b2o32bo39b3o$2bobo72bo$3bo27b2o21b2o20bob2o6b2o$31b4o
18bo2bo19b2o2bo6bo$34bo18bo$o6bo2b2o19bo2bo18b4o$2o6b2obo20b2o21b2o27b
o$10bo72bobo$8b3o39bo32b2o$49bobo$8b3o38bobo$10bo39b2o10b2o$2o6b2obo12b
2o36b2o$o6bo2b2o12b2o2$53bo$3bo48bobo$2bobo48bobob2o$3b2o46bobobobobo
$50bobobo4bo$50bobobob3o$51bo3b2o!
Last edited by rattlesnake on January 18th, 2023, 1:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Anivec » January 17th, 2023, 8:59 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 8:11 pm
A population reduction:

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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 15 ]]
x = 94, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
35bo$34bobo$32b3obo$31bo4bob2o$31bobobobobo$32b2obobo$36bobo$37bo42bo
$79b2o$39bo25b2o11b3obo9b2o$27b2o9bobo24b2o10b2o13b2o$27b2o8bo3bo36b2o
$37bo3bo37bo$37bo3bo$38bobo38bo$39bo16bobo19b2o$55bo3bo17b2o13b2o$13b
o24bo19bo19b3obo9b2o$13b2o20bo3bo14bo3bo20b2o$2o9bob3o19bo19bo24bo$2o
13b2o17bo3bo$14b2o19bobo16bo$14bo38bobo$52bo3bo$14bo37bo3bo$14b2o36bo
3bo8b2o$2o13b2o10b2o24bobo9b2o$2o9bob3o11b2o25bo$13b2o$13bo42bo$55bob
o$56bobob2o$54bobobobobo$54b2obo4bo$57bob3o$57bobo$58bo!
A bounding box reduction:

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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 15 ]]
x = 88, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
31b2o3bo$29b3obobobo$28bo4bobobo$28bobobobobo46b2o$29b2obobo48bobo$33b
obo48bo$34bo2$62b2o12b2o2bo6bo$24b2o36b2o12bob2o6b2o$24b2o10b2o39bo$36b
obo38b3o$36bobo$3b2o32bo39b3o$2bobo72bo$3bo27b2o21b2o20bob2o6b2o$31b4o
18bo2bo19b2o2bo6bo$34bo18bo$o6bo2b2o19bo2bo18b4o$2o6b2obo20b2o21b2o27b
o$10bo72bobo$8b3o39bo32b2o$49bobo$8b3o38bobo$10bo39b2o10b2o$2o6b2obo12b
2o36b2o$o6bo2b2o12b2o2$53bo$3bo48bobo$2bobo48bobob2o$3b2o46bobobobobo
$50bobobo4bo$50bobobob3o$51bo3b2o!
Please try to avoid using commands, commands can mess up Golly or caterer and aren’t normally used in the PATTERNS forums

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » January 17th, 2023, 9:57 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 8:59 pm
Please try to avoid using commands, commands can mess up Golly or caterer and aren’t normally used in the PATTERNS forums
"...aren't normally used" is probably fairly accurate. But out of curiosity, how can commands "mess up Golly or caterer" exactly?

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by Anivec » January 18th, 2023, 8:00 am

dvgrn wrote:
January 17th, 2023, 9:57 pm
"...aren't normally used" is probably fairly accurate. But out of curiosity, how can commands "mess up Golly or caterer" exactly?
Commands can be done without using “#C” by putting it at the bottom of the rle. That’s how it messes up Golly or Caterer

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » January 18th, 2023, 8:05 am

AlbertArmStain wrote:
January 18th, 2023, 8:00 am
Commands can be done without using “#C” by putting it at the bottom of the rle. That’s how it messes up Golly or Caterer
Commands (and everything else) after the ! at the bottom of the RLE are ignored by Golly. That behavior is by design, and doesn't seem to rise to the level of "messing up Golly". I'm curious about Caterer, but I'd like to know the specifics you're thinking about. At the moment this seems more like a vague unsubstantiated rumor.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » January 18th, 2023, 8:16 am

The second one doesn't paste correctly because there's a space before the "#C" (in the original, not when it was quoted) and it's at the beginning rather than at the end.
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by rowett » January 18th, 2023, 10:22 am

dvgrn wrote:
January 18th, 2023, 8:05 am
AlbertArmStain wrote:
January 18th, 2023, 8:00 am
Commands can be done without using “#C” by putting it at the bottom of the rle. That’s how it messes up Golly or Caterer
Commands (and everything else) after the ! at the bottom of the RLE are ignored by Golly. That behavior is by design, and doesn't seem to rise to the level of "messing up Golly". I'm curious about Caterer, but I'd like to know the specifics you're thinking about. At the moment this seems more like a vague unsubstantiated rumor.
To reinforce what Dave said: The RLE file format is designed to allow comments in lines starting "#C" and also any line after the "!" which signals end of pattern. You are free to put commands or comments in both areas. Golly will ignore them, and Caterer (if it doesn't already) should too.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by C_R_116 » January 18th, 2023, 7:41 pm

Has this agar been discovered?

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x = 42, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
10bobob2o10b2obobo$3bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo$b2o6bobobobobobo2bob
obobobobo6b2o$3b2o2b2obo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bob2o2b2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o$bo2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2bo$ob2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2obo$
ob2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2obo$bo2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2bo$5b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o$o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o
4bo$o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4bo$b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o$2b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$5b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$bo2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2bo$ob2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b
2o4b2obo$ob2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2obo$bo2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2bo$
5b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$2b2o
4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$3b2o2b2obo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bob2o2b2o$b2o6bo
bobobobobo2bobobobobobo6b2o$3bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo2bo3bo2bo4bo$10bobob2o
10b2obobo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by hotdogPi » January 20th, 2023, 1:47 pm

p96, partial by me, completion by me (much later), p48 from elsewhere

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x = 89, y = 97, rule = B3/S23
45b2o$44bo2bo$45b2o2$38b2o6bo$39bo5bob2o$39bobo3bo2bo3b2o$40b2o4b2o4b2o3$25bo5bo15bo$25bo5bo14b3o3bo$23b4o3b4o11bob3o$22b2o9b2o10b2ob2o3bo$21b3o2b2ob2o2b3o10bo3bo2bo$21b2o3b2ob2o3b2o14bobo4bo3bo$22b3obo3bob3o10b2o9bobobobo$23b2o7b2o10bo2bo9b2ob2o$24b3o3b3o8b2o2b2o8b3o3b3o$26b2ob2o9bo2bo10b2o7b2o$25bobobobo9b2o10b3obo3bob3o$26bo3bo4bobo14b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$34bo2bo3bo10b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$34bo3b2ob2o10b2o9b2o$38b3obo11b4o3b4o$35bo3b3o14bo5bo10b2o$13b2o25bo15bo5bo9b4o$12b4o55b3ob2o$11b3ob2o54bo3b3o$11bo3b3o16b2o4b2o4b2o21b3o5bobo$9b3o5bobo14b2o3bo2bo3bobo22bob3ob2obo$11bob3ob2obo18b2obo5bo24b2o3b2o$13b2o3b2o21bo6b2o$73b2o3b2o$13b2o3b2o21b2o28bob3ob2obo$11bob3ob2obo19bo2bo25b3o5bobo$9b3o5bobo21b2o28bo3b3o$11bo3b3o53b3ob2o$11b3ob2o55b4o$12b4o57b2o$13b2o2$41b2o20b2ob2o20bo$3b2ob2o20bo12bobo19bo3bo18b3o$3bo3bo18b3o14bo20b3o18bo$4b3o18bo15bobo41b2o$25b2o6b2o6b2o$32bo2bo$34bo$38b2o$38b2o22b2o$2b2o59bo18b3o$3bo18b3o35b3o18bo3bo$3o18bo3bo34bo20b2ob2o$o20b2ob2o2$74b2o$14b2o57b4o$13b4o55b2ob3o$12b2ob3o53b3o3bo$11b3o3bo28b2o21bobo5b3o$9bobo5b3o25bo2bo19bob2ob3obo$8bob2ob3obo28b2o21b2o3b2o$9b2o3b2o$39b2o6bo21b2o3b2o$9b2o3b2o24bo5bob2o18bob2ob3obo$8bob2ob3obo22bobo3bo2bo3b2o14bobo5b3o$9bobo5b3o21b2o4b2o4b2o16b3o3bo$11b3o3bo54b2ob3o$12b2ob3o55b4o$13b4o9bo5bo15bo25b2o$14b2o10bo5bo14b3o3bo$24b4o3b4o11bob3o$23b2o9b2o10b2ob2o3bo$22b3o2b2ob2o2b3o10bo3bo2bo$22b2o3b2ob2o3b2o14bobo4bo3bo$23b3obo3bob3o10b2o9bobobobo$24b2o7b2o10bo2bo9b2ob2o$25b3o3b3o8b2o2b2o8b3o3b3o$27b2ob2o9bo2bo10b2o7b2o$26bobobobo9b2o10b3obo3bob3o$27bo3bo4bobo14b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$35bo2bo3bo10b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$35bo3b2ob2o10b2o9b2o$39b3obo11b4o3b4o$36bo3b3o14bo5bo$41bo15bo5bo3$35b2o4b2o4b2o$35b2o3bo2bo3bobo$40b2obo5bo$42bo6b2o2$42b2o$41bo2bo$42b2o!
p28, partial by carsoncheng, completion by iNoMed

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x = 43, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
38bo$36b3o$35bo$17b2o3b2o11b2o$16bo2bobobo7b2o$16bob2obo9bobo$15b2o2bo
b2o10bo$17b2o13b2o$17bo7b2ob2o$18bo7bobo$15b3o9bo$15bo4$42bo$30bo9b3o$
17bo11bobo7bo$17b3o8b2ob2o7bo$20bo3bo14b2o$19b2o3bo10b2obo2b2o$36bob2o
bo$34bobobo2bo$20bo13b2o3b2o$20bo$20b6o$21bo3bo$22bobo$20bobob2o$18bob
obobo$17b2obobo$18bobo$17bo3bo$17b6o$22bo$2b2o3b2o13bo$bo2bobobo$bob2o
bo$2o2bob2o10bo3b2o$2b2o14bo3bo$2bo7b2ob2o8b3o$3bo7bobo11bo$3o9bo$o4$
27bo$15bo9b3o$14bobo7bo$13b2ob2o7bo$9b2o13b2o$9bo10b2obo2b2o$9bobo9bob
2obo$10b2o7bobobo2bo$6b2o11b2o3b2o$7bo$4b3o$4bo!
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Periods discovered:

All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

5-15,㉕-㉛,㉟㊺,51,63,65,73,75
1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
217,240,300,486,576

Guns: 20,21,32,54,55,57,114,117,124,126
SKOPs: 32,74,76,102,196

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Post by rattlesnake » January 21st, 2023, 7:02 am

A 33-celled oscillator that has a similar function to 33P3.1:

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o$o2bobobo2bo$2o3bobob2o$7bobo$4b4obo$9b3o$9b2o$9bobo$10bob3o!
It can eat gliders:

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#C [[ AUTOSTART GPS 2 LOOP 6 ]]
x = 18, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4bo6b2o$3bob2o3bo2bo$3b2ob5ob2o$7bo2bobo$3o4bo2bo2bo$2bo5bo2bo$bo11b2o
$12bo3bo$13bo3bo$14bobo!
When was it discovered? I think it appears in Conway's Game of Life: Mathematics and Construction.
I have discovered SKOP for 105, 115, 188, 476, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 226, 339, 752.

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