A completed synth using this approach, but unfortunately it costs 78G, 2G more expensive than the previous method. But, maybe someone can figure out something clever.I6_I6 wrote: ↑February 23rd, 2026, 2:21 amI know, but the HFs can be rotated in a way that still works:Chris857 wrote: ↑February 23rd, 2026, 2:13 amUnfortunately, I think the other domino spark from the long boat collision interferes with the honey farm sequence, in a way that I don't know how to fix. But that overall idea could cut out several LWSSes which would surely help.I6_I6 wrote: ↑February 23rd, 2026, 1:17 amBeat me to it!
Could it be reduced with this approach?Code: Select all
x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23 bo$2bo$3o4$4b2o$5bo$2b3o$2bo$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo$7b2o4b2o$12bobo$11bobo $12bo2$8b3o7b2o$10bo6bobo$9bo6bobo$17bo$13b2o$12bobo5b2o$14bo4bo2bo$ 19bo2bo$20b2o$25b2o$24bobo$24bo$23b2o5b2o$30bobo$30bo!The red cells need to be on at generation 2, which could be done with a crotchet. Or you could just replace the long boats with something else that doesn't produce annoying sparks, except that I don't know of any other bait objects that produce a working domino.Code: Select all
# [[ PASTET 2 PASTE 9.A9$A3$21.A9$12.A! 8 8 STOP 2 ]] x = 38, y = 38, rule = LifeHistory 24.2A$22.2A.A$22.3A2$25.2A3$15.2A3.3A2.2A$15.2AD.A.2A$19.A3.A$20.3A$20. 3A7.A2.A$30.A2.A2.2A$35.A.A$28.A6.2A$7.2A17.2A.2A4.2A$7.2A17.2A.2A$8. D17.2A2.A$28.2A$8.2A$7.A2.2A17.D$7.2A.2A17.2A$.2A4.2A.2A17.2A$.2A6.A$ A.A$2A2.A2.A$4.A2.A7.3A$15.3A$14.A3.A$15.2A.A.D2A$11.2A2.3A3.2A3$11.2A 2$13.3A$12.A.2A$12.2A!
Still, it'll probably be a bit hard to fit it all in.
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x = 1089, y = 104, rule = B3/S23
1015bobo$1016b2o59bo$1016bo58b2o$999bo76b2o$1000bo$998b3o2bo$1004b2o$
1003b2o$565bo428bo79bo$566b2o63bo238bobo119bobo5bo72bo$565b2o63bo240b
2o120b2o6b2o70b3o$630b3o238bo35bo92b2o83bobo$626bo279bo104bo73b2o$625b
o280b3o81bo18bobo66bo7bo$281bo343b3o248bobo109bobo19b2o66bobo$282b2o282b
obo308b2o110b2o87b2o$281b2o38bo245b2o151bo156bo$320bo246bo153bo$320b3o
396b3o268bobo$991b2o5bo$285bo705bo4bobo$283bobo711b2o$284b2o$136bobo39b
obo$137b2o39b2o818bo$137bo41bo819bo$330bo666b3o$330bobo150bo$185bo144b
2o150bo$183b2o297b3o$184b2o799bo$128bo857b2o$129b2o854b2o$128b2o665bo
245b2o$447bo347bobo242bo2bo$447bobo345b2o243bobo$259bobo185b2o592bo$260b
2o193bo159bo149bo129bo149bo$260bo5bo187bobo157bobo147bobo127bobo147bo
bo$267bo185bobo157bobo135bo11bobo115bo11bobo135bo11bobo$265b3o185b2o158b
2o134b2o12b2o114b2o12b2o134b2o12b2o$751b2o128b2o148b2o$460bo159bo129b
o19bo109bo19bo129bo19bo$296b2ob2o145b2ob2o8bobo144b2ob2o8bobo134b2ob2o
8bobo114b2ob2o8bobo134b2ob2o8bobo$296b2ob2o145b2ob2o7bobo145b2ob2o7bo
bo135b2ob2o7bobo115b2ob2o7bobo135b2ob2o7bobo$458b2o158b2o4bo143b2o4bo
102b3o18b2o4bo122b3o18b2o4bo$13bo139bo139bo149bo159bo19bobo127bo19bob
o107bo19bobo127bo19bobo$12bobo137bobo137bobo147bobo157bobo17bo2bo126b
obo17bo2bo106bobo17bo2bo126bobo17bo2bo$11bobo137bobo137bobo10b2o135bo
bo10b2o145bobo10b2o7b2o126bobo10b2o7b2o106bobo10b2o7b2o126bobo10b2o7b
2o$12bo139bo139bo11b2o136bo11b2o146bo11b2o136bo11b2o116bo11b2o136bo11b
2o2$288b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o142b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o112b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o
$288b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o142b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o112b2o14b2o132b2o14b2o2$
161bo126b2o11bo136b2o11bo146b2o11bo136b2o11bo116b2o11bo136b2o11bo$160b
obo125b2o10bobo135b2o10bobo136b2o7b2o10bobo126b2o7b2o10bobo106b2o7b2o
10bobo126b2o7b2o10bobo$159bobo137bobo147bobo136bo2bo17bobo126bo2bo17b
obo106bo2bo17bobo126bo2bo17bobo$160bo139bo149bo137bobo19bo127bobo19bo
107bobo19bo127bobo19bo$434b2o153bo4b2o143bo4b2o123bo4b2o18b3o122bo4b2o
18b3o$293b2ob2o135bobo7b2ob2o145bobo7b2ob2o135bobo7b2ob2o115bobo7b2ob
2o135bobo7b2ob2o$293b2ob2o134bobo8b2ob2o144bobo8b2ob2o134bobo8b2ob2o114b
obo8b2ob2o134bobo8b2ob2o$433bo159bo149bo19bo109bo19bo129bo19bo$761b2o
128b2o148b2o$326b3o110b2o158b2o148b2o12b2o114b2o12b2o134b2o12b2o$326b
o111bobo157bobo147bobo11bo115bobo11bo135bobo11bo$327bo5bo103bobo157bo
bo147bobo127bobo147bobo$332b2o104bo159bo149bo129bo149bo$332bobo110b2o
585bo$444bobo270b2o312bobo$446bo269bobo311bo2bo$184b2o532bo312b2o$183b
2o902b2o$185bo900b2o$41b2o85b2o958bo$40b2o87b2o278b3o$3o39bo85bo133b2o
147bo$2bo258bobo146bo$bo261bo810b3o$41b3o90bo41bo897bo$41bo92b2o39b2o
898bo$42bo90bobo39bobo$308b2o$308bobo764b2o$308bo766bobo4bo$1075bo5b2o
$271b3o518b3o286bobo$273bo372bo145bo$272bo38b2o332b2o146bo102bo$310b2o
333bobo247b2o97b2o87b2o$312bo273b3o306bobo95bobo66b2o19bobo$588bo276b
3o119bo7bo66bobo18bo$587bo279bo119b2o73bo$581b3o282bo35bo83bobo83b2o$
583bo63b2o252b2o95b3o70b2o6b2o$582bo63b2o253bobo96bo72bo5bobo$648bo350b
o79bo$1069b2o$1068b2o$1070bo2b3o$1073bo$996b2o76bo$997b2o58bo$996bo59b
2o$1056bobo!
Original long boat version synth down to 72G with a cheaper synth of the initial constellation. So now the second approach is even further from being cheaper (at least as far as I could manage).
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x = 508, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo18$502bo$501bo$501b3o6$291bo$123bobo166bo$124b2o164b3o$124b
o$300bobo$301b2o$301bo114bo$417b2o$341bo74b2o$339b2o$340b2o82bobo$170b
2o148b2o103b2o43b2o$170bo149bo104bo44bo$145bo25b3o147b3o147b3o$143bob
o27bo149bo149bo$144b2o3$460bo$459bobo$459bo2bo$460b2o2$470bo$300b2o148b
2o17bobo$300b2o148b2o16bo2bo$469b2o3$303b2o148b2o$302bo2bo146bo2bo16b
2o$302bobo147bobo17b2o$303bo149bo2$312b2o148b2o$311bo2bo146bo2bo$312b
obo147bobo$313bo149bo3$328b2o$20bo129bo149bo27bobo119bo$20b3o127b3o147b
3o25bo121b3o$23bo129bo149bo149bo44bo$22b2o128b2o148b2o148b2o43b2o$132b
2o363bobo$133b2o$132bo373b2o$505b2o$3b2o167bo334bo$2bobo166b2o$4bo166b
obo$349bo$181b3o164b2o$181bo166bobo$182bo6$420b3o$422bo$421bo!
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x = 1803, y = 264, rule = B3/S23
1476bo$1474bobo$1475b2o2$1614bo$1612b2o$1613b2o15$1452bo$1453bo$1451b
3o2$1456bo$1450bo6b2o$1451b2o3b2o$1450b2o8$1440bobo$1437bo3b2o$1435bo
bo3bo$1436b2o3$1439bobo$1440b2o$1440bo2$1583bo$1582bo$1582b3o2$1425bo
$1426bo$1424b3o$1661bobo$1661b2o$1662bo18$1027bobo$1027b2o$1028bo2$1314b
o$1313bo$1160bo152b3o$1159bo103bo$1159b3o99bobo$1109bo152b2o$1107bobo
$1108b2o2$744bobo$745b2o$745bo2$799bo$799bobo$799b2o2$748bo223bobo$749b
2o221b2o$748b2o223bo2$888bo$889b2o$o887b2o$b2o$2o76bo$77bo505bo$77b3o
501bobo39bobo$582b2o39b2o$624bo2$179bo1370bo$180b2o1368bo$179b2o1115b
o253bo5bo$228bobo174bo890bo259bo$228b2o173bobo39bobo848bo259bo$229bo174b
2o39b2o$446bo$964b2o168b2o158b2o258b2o$964bo169bo159bo259bo$965b3o167b
3o157b3o257b3o$967bo169bo159bo259bo$1765bo$69b2o158b2o218b2o168b2o158b
2o188b2o168b2o158b2o258b2o202bobo$70bo159bo219bo169bo159bo189bo169bo4b
3o152bo4b3o252bo4b3o196b2o$70bobo157bobo217bobo167bobo142b2o13bobo172b
2o13bobo152b2o13bobo142b2o13bobo242b2o13bobo$71b2o130bo27b2o218b2o168b
2o141bo2bo13b2o171bo2bo13b2o151bo2bo13b2o141bo2bo13b2o241bo2bo13b2o56b
o$201bobo560bo2bo186bo2bo166bo2bo156bo2bo256bo2bo71bobo146b2o$202b2o236b
o169bo154b2o3bo184b2o3bo164b2o3bo154b2o3bo254b2o3bo68b2o147b2o11b2o$439b
obo167bobo157bobo187bobo167bobo157bobo257bobo228bobo$440bobo167bobo157b
obo187bobo167bobo14b3o140bobo14b3o240bobo14b3o209bobo$441bo169bo159bo
189bo169bo159bo259bo228bo2$597b2o14b2o142b2o14b2o172b2o14b2o152b2o14b
2o142b2o14b2o242b2o14b2o$596bo2bo12bo2bo140bo2bo12bo2bo170bo2bo12bo2b
o150bo2bo12bo2bo140bo2bo12bo2bo240bo2bo12bo2bo$596bo2bo12bo2bo140bo2b
o12bo2bo170bo2bo12bo2bo150bo2bo12bo2bo140bo2bo12bo2bo240bo2bo12bo2bo$
597b2o14b2o142b2o14b2o172b2o14b2o152b2o14b2o142b2o14b2o242b2o14b2o$1778b
3o$430bo169bo159bo189bo169bo159bo259bo207bo28bob2o$429bobo167bobo157b
obo187bobo150b3o14bobo140b3o14bobo240b3o14bobo207bo26bo2b2o$430bobo167b
obo157bobo187bobo167bobo157bobo257bobo204b3o26b2obo$228b2o201bo169bo159b
o3b2o184bo3b2o164bo3b2o154bo3b2o184b2o68bo3b2o231b3o$228bobo533bo2bo186b
o2bo166bo2bo156bo2bo182bobo71bo2bo247b2o$199b2o27bo190b2o168b2o158b2o
13bo2bo171b2o13bo2bo151b2o13bo2bo141b2o13bo2bo184bo56b2o13bo2bo204b2o
40bobo$199bobo217bobo167bobo157bobo13b2o172bobo13b2o152bobo13b2o142bo
bo13b2o242bobo13b2o205b2o29bob3o5bobo$201bo219bo169bo159bo189bo162b3o
4bo152b3o4bo252b3o4bo251b5o6bo$201b2o218b2o168b2o158b2o188b2o168b2o158b
2o258b2o250bo3bo$1784bobo$944bo169bo159bo259bo249b2o$944b3o167b3o157b
3o257b3o$947bo169bo159bo259bo$946b2o168b2o158b2o258b2o226b2o$425bo1337b
obo$202bo222b2o39b2o1294bo3bo$202b2o220bobo39bobo806bo259bo219bo6b5o$
201bobo262bo808bo259bo218bobo5b3obo29b2o$251b2o1022bo259bo5bo211bobo40b
2o$250b2o1289bo211b2o$252bo1288bo227b3o$1770bob2o26b3o$587bo1181b2o2b
o26bo$587b2o39b2o1139b2obo28bo$586bobo39bobo1138b3o$628bo3$1022b2o$1021b
2o$1023bo745bo$1768bobo$782b2o154bo828bobo$781b2o155b2o827b2o11b2o$783b
o153bobo840b2o2$731b2o$730bobo1051b2o$732bo1051bobo$1784bo$786bo$785b
2o$785bobo2$1142b2o$1142bobo$1142bo165b2o$1090b3o215bobo$1092bo215bo$
1091bo164b3o$1258bo$1257bo2$883bo$883b2o$882bobo18$1429bo$1429b2o$1428b
obo$1665b3o$1665bo$1666bo2$1507b3o$1509bo$1508bo2$1651bo$1650b2o$1650b
obo3$1654b2o$1650bo3bobo$1649b2o3bo$1649bobo8$1640b2o$1634b2o3b2o$1633b
2o6bo$1635bo2$1638b3o$1638bo$1639bo15$1477b2o$1478b2o$1477bo2$1615b2o
$1615bobo$1615bo!
I was able to manage a synthesis at a later point in the evolution, and this makes siffrin's p103 tub, long boat, and barge forms all cost 58G.
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x = 603, y = 517, rule = B3/S23
583bo$495bo6bo78b2o$496bo3bobo79b2o$494b3o4b2o7$511bo$509bobo$510b2o2$
89bo478bo$90b2o423bo52bobo$89b2o422bobo52b2o27bobo$514b2o81b2o$598bo3$
567bo$567bobo$494bobo70b2o$495b2o$495bo2$106bo$107b2o360bo19bo$106b2o
76bo282bobo20b2o92bo$183bo284b2o19b2o86bo5bo$183b3o103bo60bobo223bo6b
3o$290b2o58b2o151bo72b3o$289b2o60bo149bobo$468bo33b2o60bobo$469bo29bo
64b2o$467b3o30bo64bo$498b3o$94bo$92bobo80bo$93b2o80bobo$175b2o2$477bo
$478bo$476b3o2$482bo$483bo$481b3o$4b2o148b2o168b2o208b2o$2o2b2o144b2o
2b2o164b2o2b2o204b2o2b2o$2o17bo130b2o168b2o208b2o$18bo$18b3o$2o148b2o
168b2o208b2o$2o148b2o168b2o208b2o4$533bo$533bo$533bo$327b2o208b2o$307b
2o2b2o15bo9b2o177b2o2b2o15bo9b2o$307b2o2b2o15bobo7b2o177b2o2b2o15bobo
7b2o$329b2o208b2o$315b2o208b2o$306b2o7bobo15b2o2b2o177b2o7bobo15b2o2b
2o$306b2o9bo15b2o2b2o177b2o9bo15b2o2b2o$317b2o208b2o$532bo$532bo$532b
o4$154b2o168b2o208b2o$154b2o168b2o208b2o3$154b2o168b2o208b2o$150b2o2b
2o164b2o2b2o204b2o2b2o$150b2o168b2o208b2o$582b3o$582bo$583bo2$587b3o$
587bo$588bo2$129b2o$128bobo80b2o$130bo80bobo$211bo$565b3o$500bo64bo30b
3o$500b2o64bo29bo$499bobo60b2o33bo$294bo60b2o205bobo$294b2o58b2o131b3o
72bo$120b3o170bobo60bo123b3o6bo$122bo359bo5bo86b2o19b2o$121bo76b2o281b
o92b2o20bobo$197b2o377bo19bo$199bo2$570bo$569b2o$497b2o70bobo$496bobo
$498bo3$19b3o445bo$19bo447b2o81b2o$20bo194b2o249bobo27b2o52bobo$44bo169b
2o279bobo52bo$43b2o171bo280bo$43bobo$554b2o$554bobo$554bo7$563b2o4b3o
$482b2o79bobo3bo$483b2o78bo6bo$482bo54$494bo$495bo$493b3o4$490bobo85b
o$491b2o83b2o$491bo85b2o5$511bo$509bobo$510b2o2$568bo$515bo52bobo$513b
obo52b2o$514b2o4$567bo26bobo$567bobo24b2o$494bobo70b2o26bo$469bo25b2o
$470b2o23bo$469b2o$465bo$463bobo23bo$464b2o24b2o92bo$489b2o86bo5bo$576b
o6b3o$503bo72b3o$501bobo$502b2o60bobo$499bo64b2o$500bo64bo$498b3o6$477b
o$478bo$476b3o2$482bo$483bo$481b3o$534b2o$530b2o2b2o$530b2o3$530b2o$530b
2o4$533bo$533bo$533bo$537b2o$517b2o2b2o15bo9b2o$517b2o2b2o15bobo7b2o$
539b2o$525b2o$516b2o7bobo15b2o2b2o$516b2o9bo15b2o2b2o$527b2o$532bo$532b
o$532bo4$534b2o$534b2o3$534b2o$530b2o2b2o$530b2o$582b3o$582bo$583bo2$
587b3o$587bo$588bo6$565b3o$500bo64bo$500b2o64bo$499bobo60b2o$562bobo$
487b3o72bo$480b3o6bo$482bo5bo86b2o$481bo92b2o24b2o$576bo23bobo$600bo$
595b2o$570bo23b2o$569b2o25bo$470bo26b2o70bobo$470b2o24bobo$469bobo26b
o4$550b2o$496b2o52bobo$495bobo52bo$497bo2$554b2o$554bobo$554bo5$487b2o
85bo$488b2o83b2o$487bo85bobo4$570b3o$570bo$571bo51$492bo$493bo$491b3o
$583bo$582bo$492bo89b3o$493b2o$492b2o6$511bo$509bobo$510b2o2$568bo$515b
o52bobo26bo$513bobo52b2o27bobo$514b2o81b2o4$567bo$567bobo$494bobo70b2o
$495b2o$465bo29bo$463bobo2bobo$464b2o3b2o$469bo19bo$490b2o92bo$489b2o
86bo5bo$576bo6b3o$503bo72b3o$501bobo$502b2o60bobo$499bo64b2o$500bo64b
o$498b3o6$477bo$478bo$476b3o2$482bo$483bo$481b3o$534b2o$530b2o2b2o$530b
2o3$530b2o$530b2o4$533bo$533bo$533bo$537b2o$517b2o2b2o15bo9b2o$517b2o
2b2o15bobo7b2o$539b2o$525b2o$516b2o7bobo15b2o2b2o$516b2o9bo15b2o2b2o$
527b2o$532bo$532bo$532bo4$534b2o$534b2o3$534b2o$530b2o2b2o$530b2o$582b
3o$582bo$583bo2$587b3o$587bo$588bo6$565b3o$500bo64bo$500b2o64bo$499bo
bo60b2o$562bobo$487b3o72bo$480b3o6bo$482bo5bo86b2o$481bo92b2o$576bo19b
o$595b2o3b2o$595bobo2bobo$570bo29bo$569b2o$497b2o70bobo$496bobo$498bo
4$467b2o81b2o$466bobo27b2o52bobo$468bo26bobo52bo$497bo2$554b2o$554bob
o$554bo6$572b2o$571b2o$481b3o89bo$483bo$482bo$572b3o$572bo$573bo!