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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Kazyan wrote:Good luck. If you happen to find any catalyst arrangements that produce a block, but in the wrong place, do you mind collecting them? No need to sort or anything; just dump them in a "these are now Kazyan's problem" file. I'm making a signal-to-block compilation, which is just being casually added to as I find new block displacements.
Oh, okay. There should be thousands of junk patterns to filter, so I would have to use a Golly script... I may choose the script to be sensitive or specific. Would you prefer to contain every solution but with also false positives (so you may have to filter them again) or make every reported solutions work without filtering at the cost of missing some solutions?
Can the perturbation produce any other junk?
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Scorbie wrote:
Kazyan wrote:Good luck. If you happen to find any catalyst arrangements that produce a block, but in the wrong place, do you mind collecting them? No need to sort or anything; just dump them in a "these are now Kazyan's problem" file. I'm making a signal-to-block compilation, which is just being casually added to as I find new block displacements.
Oh, okay. There should be thousands of junk patterns to filter, so I would have to use a Golly script... I may choose the script to be sensitive or specific. Would you prefer to contain every solution but with also false positives (so you may have to filter them again) or make every reported solutions work without filtering at the cost of missing some solutions?
Can the perturbation produce any other junk?
Other junk is fine, as are false positives. but honestly, whatever you feel like reporting is better than nothing.
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Kazyan wrote:Other junk is fine, as are false positives. but honestly, whatever you feel like reporting is better than nothing.
Do you have simsim314's CatForce results (the longest column) in Kazyan's Problem Pile?

Those were found with a fairly quick CatForce search, so if you really want an unmanageablly large number of signal-to-block variants, it seems as if a deeper CatForce search would be a fine place to start...!
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Here is a crude script for you to tweak... This can be applied to ptbsearch outputs to filter out matches.
Important params:
persist on line 28
maxjunkpop on line 29
The script selects patterns that outputs block that lasts for persist gens and other junk having less than maxjunkpop, also for persist gens.

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# Check if a target pattern pops out.
# The first layer should be empty.

# Currently:
# Stops at gen 500 or if pop is constant; no quiescence test.
# Can specify:
#   min gens for the target pattern to persist
#   max pop of the junk excluding the catalysts and the target

import golly as g
from collections import defaultdict, deque


g.setrule('LifeHistory')
g.autoupdate(True)

statedict = defaultdict(lambda: 1, {'.': 0, 'z': 1, '*': 3})

# Directories
ptbdir = '/home/scorbie/Apps/ptbsearch'
ptbdumppath = g.opendialog("Choose ptbsearch dump file", "*", ptbdir)

# Pattern alignment
patx, paty, inc = 0, 0, 80
curpatrow, patrows = 0, 10

# Filter settings
persist = 10
maxjunkpop = 30
# keystr is the target pattern to match
# and kx, ky is the relative coordinate of any nonempty cell.
kx, ky= 2, 2
keystr = (
    '......!'
    '......!'
    '..aa..!'
    '..aa..!'
    '......!'
    '......')
keypop = keystr.count('a')
samestatedict = [(0,2), (1,), (0,2), (3,), (4,), (5,)]
gliderstr = (
    '.....!'
    '.aa..!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.a...!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..a..!'
    '.aa..!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '...a.!'
    '.aa..!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '..aa.!'
    '..a..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..a..!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.aa..!'
    '...a.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '.aa..!'
    '..a..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.a...!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.aa..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.aaa.!'
    '...a.!'
    '..a..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.aa..!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '.a...!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..a..!'
    '.a...!'
    '.aaa.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '...a.!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..aa.!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '...a.!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.aaa.!'
    '.a...!'
    '..a..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '.a...!'
    '.a.a.!'
    '.aa..!'
    '.....!',
    '.....!'
    '..a..!'
    '...a.!'
    '.aaa.!'
    '.....!')
#assert len(gliders) == 16
def parse(patstr, kx=0, ky=0):
    return {(x-kx, y-ky): samestatedict[statedict[char]]
            for y, row in enumerate(keystr.split('!'))
            for x, char in enumerate(row)}
key = parse(keystr, kx, ky)
gliders = [parse(gl, 3, 3) for gl in gliderstr]

# Main
try:
    g.addlayer()
    g.setlayer(0)
    with open(ptbdumppath) as ptbdumpfile:
        lines = sum(1 for line in ptbdumpfile)
    with open(ptbdumppath) as ptbdumpfile:
        for lineno, line in enumerate(ptbdumpfile):
            # Initialize
            g.new('')
            g.setoption('autofit', True)
            g.setmag(2)
            g.show('{}/{}'.format(lineno+1, lines))
            pattern = line.split()[0]
            catpop = pattern.count('*') + pattern.count('z')
            rows = pattern.split('!')
            for y, row in enumerate(rows):
                for x, char in enumerate(row):
                    g.setcell(x, y, statedict[char])
            initpat = g.getcells(g.getrect())
            recentmatches = deque([], persist)
            recentjunkpop = deque([], persist)
            # Run the pattern and check for matches
            assert g.getoption('autofit')
            while int(g.getgen()) < 500:
                g.run(1)
                curpat = g.getcells(g.getrect())
                # Dictionary of (coordinate: cell state)s:
                celldict = {(x, y): c for x, y, c in zip(*([iter(curpat)]*3))}
                celldict = defaultdict(lambda: 0, celldict)
                # Abort if any catalyst is damaged.
                if 4 in celldict.values():
                    break
                # Live cell population; g.getpop() counts state 2 cells...
                matches, glidermatches = set(), set()
                oncells = {coord for coord in celldict.keys() if coord}
                for vx, vy in oncells:
                    if all(celldict[(x+vx, y+vy)] in cs
                           for (x, y), cs in key.iteritems()):
                            matches.add((vx, vy))
                    # Glider detection... Disabled until there's a faster way.
                    '''
                    for gl in gliders:
                        if all(celldict[(x+vx, y+vy)] in cs
                               for (x, y), cs in gl.iteritems()):
                            glidermatches.add((vx, vy))
                    '''
                curpop = sum(c in [1, 3, 5] for c in celldict.values())
                junkpop = (curpop - catpop - keypop
                           - 5 * len(glidermatches))
                #g.show('curpop: {}, catpop: {}, keys: {}*{}, gliders: 5*{}, junkpop: {}'
                #       .format(curpop, catpop, keypop, len(matches), len(glidermatches), junkpop))
                #g.show('{}/{}, junkpop={}'.format(lineno, lines, junkpop))
                recentmatches.append(matches)
                recentjunkpop.append(junkpop)
                #g.show(str(recentmatches)); import time; time.sleep(0.5)
                if (len(recentmatches) == persist and
                    all(junkpop <= maxjunkpop for junkpop in recentjunkpop) and
                    set.intersection(*recentmatches)):
                    g.setlayer(1)
                    g.putcells(initpat, patx, paty)
                    curpatrow += 1
                    if curpatrow < patrows:
                        patx += inc
                    else:
                        patx, paty, curpatrow = 0, paty+inc, 0
                    g.setlayer(0)
                    break
                # See if population doesn't change for 10 gens
                if (len(recentmatches) == persist and
                    all(junkpop == recentjunkpop[0]
                        for junkpop in list(recentjunkpop)[-10:])):
                    break
except:
    g.dellayer()
    if not ptbdumppath:
        g.exit("No file specified; aborting.")
    else:
        raise
(Kinda cool, huh? This is generated by

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 tags. Wish if there were support for [code=python ] tags, too.)
Running this with one-catalyst search:
[code]x = 416, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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dvgrn wrote:Do you have simsim314's CatForce results (the longest column) in Kazyan's Problem Pile?

Those were found with a fairly quick CatForce search, so if you really want an unmanageablly large number of signal-to-block variants, it seems as if a deeper CatForce search would be a fine place to start...!
Yes, those have been sorted. I have another set of different CatForce results that needs to be processed, too, but I think that will just become the pile. As for a deeper search, well, I'll see what I can do.
Scorbie wrote:Here is a crude script for you to tweak... This can be applied to ptbsearch outputs to filter out matches.
Nice! Thanks.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Here is the 2-catalyst solution:

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x = 750, y = 1305, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Okay, pi searching almost finished...it's running sed2d.py right now to try out different bait objects.
Here's the ones that restore the block. Most are known, some make a lot of junk, some block the input glider, some are pretty "radioactive" (the restored block only lives for a few gens) and I think none are useful enough to be called as a semispartan syringe, yet I am posting it here just in case someone finds a use for it someway...

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x = 675, y = 192, rule = B3/S23
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89bo393bobo$7bob2o4bo481bobob3o7bo$8bobob3o481bob2o4bo$10bobo483bo4b2o
bo$10b2o485b3obobo$499bobo$500b2o47$12b2o9b2o67b2o9b2o67b2o9b2o67b2o9b
2o67b2o9b2o55b2o10b2o78b2o78b2o$12b2o8bobo67b2o8bobo67b2o8bobo67b2o8bo
bo67b2o8bobo55b2o10b2o78bobo77bobo$22b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o78b2o149b2o78b
2o$13bo12b2o65bo12b2o65bo12b2o65bo12b2o65bo12b2o65bo10b2o$12b2o12bobo
63b2o12bobo63b2o12bobo63b2o12bobo63b2o12bobo63b2o9bobo64b2o78b2o$12bob
o13bo63bobo13bo63bobo13bo63bobo13bo63bobo13bo63bobo8b2o66bo79bo$16bo
11bobo65bo11bobo65bo11bobo65bo11bobo65bo11bobo65bo10b2o59b3o77b3o$24b
2o3b2o73b2o3b2o73b2o3b2o73b2o3b2o73b2o3b2o76bobo57bo79bo$15bo2bo5b2o7b
2o60bo2bo5b2o7b2o60bo2bo5b2o7b2o60bo2bo5b2o7b2o60bo2bo5b2o7b2o60bo2bo
10bo57b2o78b2o$2b2o28bobo47b2o28bobo47b2o28bobo47b2o28bobo47b2o28bobo
47b2o25bobo$3bo13bo2bo11b2o49bo13bo2bo11b2o49bo13bo2bo11b2o49bo13bo2bo
11b2o49bo13bo2bo11b2o49bo13bo2bo9b2o52b2o19b2o57b2o19b2o$3o77b3o77b3o
77b3o77b3o77b3o31b2o48bobo18bo58bobo18bo$o18bo2bo57bo18bo2bo57bo18bo2b
o57bo18bo2bo57bo18bo2bo57bo18bo2bo10bobo49b2o4b2o10bobo59b2o4b2o10bobo
$433b2o45b2o9b2o10b2o55b2o9b2o10b2o$21bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2b
o73bo2bo2bo56bo79bo$17bo399bobo61bobo8bo68bobo8bo$17b3o3bo2bo71bo4bo2b
o76bo2bo76bo2bo76bo2bo61b2o8bo4bo2bo55b2o7b2o69b2o7b2o$20bo77b3o78bo
227bobo81bobo77bobo$9b2o8b2o4bo63b2o10bo3bo63b2o8b3o3bo63b2o4b2o8bo63b
2o14bo61bo17bo69bo79bo$10bo79bo9b2o68bo11bo67bo5bo73bo5b2o68b2o99b2o
78b2o$7b3o77b3o77b3o11b2o64b3o3b3o71b3o7bo156bo2bo9b2o65bo2bo9b2o$7bo
79bo79bo79bo5bo73bo6b3o$334bo161bo2bo76bo2bo2$498bo2bo76bo2bo2$500bo2b
o76bo2bo$567b2o$493b2o7bo2bo60bobo13bo2bo$493bo72bo$494b3o7bo60b2o17bo
$496bo!
Here's the script I used, by the way.

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#!/usr/bin/env bash
parse () {
./survive ab 1 < $1 | ./uniq.pl > $1-uniq
for f in baits/*
do
./sed2d.py -n baits/block $f < $1 | ./survive a | ./uniq.pl | ./makematrix.pl > $1-$(basename "$f").life 
done
}

./ptb2 picol semispartan.list 40 0 1 0 > picol1
parse picol1
./ptblist2.pl picol1-uniq semispartan.list 50 0 1 0 > picol2
parse picol2
./ptblist2.pl picol2-uniq semispartan.list 60 0 1 0 > picol3
parse picol3
./ptblist2.pl picol3-uniq semispartan.list 70 0 1 0 > picol4
parse picol4
./ptblist2.pl picol4-uniq semispartan.list 80 0 1 0 > picol5
parse picol5
EDIT: Search finished running, no results on other baits...
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Here's one for Kazyan? The tranceiver-G5-dependent blockmaker. It doesn't have a lot of clearance, though...

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
bo10b2o$b3o8b2o$4bo20b2o$3b2o19bo2bo$24bobo$12b2o9b2ob4o$12b2o8bo6bo$
22b4ob2o$13bo11bobo$12b2o10bo2bo$12bobo10b2o3$21b3o$21bo$2b2o18bo$3bo$
3o$o!
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This is one of Noam Elkies' p4 oscs in jslife, discovered back on... there's no discovery date.

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x = 26, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
9bo6bo$9bo6bo$8b3o4b3o$7bo10bo$5b3o10b3o$4bo6bo2bo6bo$4b5ob2o2b2ob5o2$
4b2o4b6o4b2o$4bo3bob6obo3bo$5b4o8b4o$2obobobo10bobobob2o$ob2obobo3bo2b
o3bobob2obo$5bobo4b2o4bobo$5bo5b4o5bo$2b2obobobobo2bobobobob2o$3bobobo
3b4o3bobobo$3bobob3obo2bob3obobo$2b2o2bobo3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o2b2ob
o3bo$4bobo5b2o5bobo$3b2obo3b2o2b2o3bob2o$2bo2bo5bo2bo5bo2bo$3bobob3o2b
2o2b3obobo$4b2o4b2o2b2o4b2o$2o4b4ob4ob4o4b2o$o2bobo14bobo2bo$2b2ob2ob
2o2b2o2b2ob2ob2o$6bobo2bo2bo2bobo$6bobo3b2o3bobo$7bo10bo!
Which can be reduced:

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x = 20, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6bo6bo$6bo6bo$5b3o4b3o$4bo4b2o4bo$2b3o10b3o$bo5bo4bo5bo$bo2b3obo2bob3o
2bo$2obo2bo2b2o2bo2bob2o$3bob3o4b3obo$3bobobob2obobobo$2b2o2b2obob2obo
b2o$o2bo4bo4bo$2o6bob2o$9bob2o!
I wonder why he search for this.
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Scorbie wrote:This is one of Noam Elkies' p4 oscs in jslife, discovered back on... there's no discovery date.
...
I wonder why he search for this.
In the spirit of publishing negative results, I had a quick look back through old emails looking for terms like "T-nosed p4" and "T-tetromino", but failed to come up with a definite reference for that oversized double-T-tetromino oscillator. I have a near miss, though -- part of a discussion about finding minimal-depth stators with lifesrc:

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#C alternating p4 sparks 7 cells apart
#C Noam Elkies, 20 July 1997
x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
13bo$5b2o5bobo$4bo2bo4bobo$4bob2o2b2obo$3b2obo4bo$2bo3bo4bobo$3o3bob4o
2bo$2bo3bobobo3bo$5b2o2b4o$6b2o4b2o$6bo3b3o$2b3obobobo3bo$b3ob2ob4o2bo
$2bo3bo4bobo$3b2obo4bo$4bob2o2b2obo$4bo2bo4bobo$5b2o5bobo$13bo!
Noam mentioned in that message that "these sparks are one unit closer than I was able to get simultaneously in a p4." so very likely the 8-cells-apart double-T oscillator was the result of a search before the above date. It might have been engineered to support some period 4N hassling reaction, but if so I can't find the complete oscillator.
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A bit awkward Pi-B with a blinker to clean:

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x = 23, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
19bob2o$17b3ob2o$16bo$16bob2ob2o$15b2ob2obo$21bo$15b2ob3o$15b2obo5$5bo
bo$2o3bobo$2o3b3o7$8b2o$8bo$9b3o$11bo!
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Scorbie wrote:A bit awkward Pi-B with a blinker to clean:

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x = 23, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
19bob2o$17b3ob2o$16bo$16bob2ob2o$15b2ob2obo$21bo$15b2ob3o$15b2obo5$5bo
bo$2o3bobo$2o3b3o7$8b2o$8bo$9b3o$11bo!
Which gives a PNE/SE40T??? with no input that I can find:

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x = 57, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
27.2A$14.2A11.A$7.A5.B2AB11.A$6.A.A5.2B9.4A$2.2A2.BA.B5.2B8.A$3.A3.
11B9.B3A$3.A.A.12B2.2B4.BA2.A$4.2A.21B2.2A$8.20B$7.22B$3.3B.23B$3.23B
.4B$2.2A20B4.4B$2.2A21B4.4B$3.B.20B5.4B13.A$5.20B6.4B10.3A$6.18B8.4B
8.A$6.9B.10B2.2A3.3BD7.2A$5.8B8.4B.A2.A4.3BD3.5B$5.7B11.2B.2A7.3DB2.
3B$4.11B7.A.A.A9.9B7.2A$4.12B5.A.2A2.A9.8B8.A$4.12B5.A4.2A10.10B3.B.A
.2A$5.11B4.2A16.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$3.4B.4B3DB22.7B2A3BAB2.2A$3.2A4.4BD2B
22.12B4A$4.A4.2B3D2B20.2AB.7B3.2B.A$.3A6.6B19.A.AB.7B2.B3A$.A8.7B18.A
5.5B3.A$10.8B16.2A5.5B4.5A$11.8B21.D3B10.A$11.9B19.BDBD9.A$10.6B.4B
17.2B2D10.2A$10.7B.4B15.4B$11.6B2.4B13.4B$11.6B3.4B11.4B$11.6B4.4B9.
4B$10.8B4.4B7.4B$9.8B6.4B5.4B$9.9B6.4B3.4B$9.9B7.4B.4B$8.10B8.7B$8.3B
2A5B9.5B$7.4B2A5B9.5B$7.11B8.7B$2.2A.A7BD4B7.4B.4B$2.A.2A2.4B3DB8.4B
3.4B$9.2B2DBDB7.4B5.4B$11.5B6.4B7.4B$11.6B4.4B9.4B$4.A5.6B4.4B11.4B$
3.A.A4.7B2.4B13.4B$3.A.A5.11B15.4B$.3A.2A4.10B17.4B$A4.B4.10B19.4B$.
3AB2AB2.9B21.4B$3.A.2AB.10B22.4B$5.14B23.4B$7.12B24.4B$6.3B3D5B27.4B$
6.11B5.2A21.4B$7.11B4.A23.4B$9.9B.BA.A24.4B$9.9B.B2A26.4B$10.B3D6B29.
4B$12.BD6B30.4B$11.3D6B31.4B$10.8B34.4B$10.6B37.4B$10.4B40.3B$10.2B2A
B40.2B$12.2A!
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x = 33, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
23bo$21b3o$20bo$20b2o4$26bo$21b3o3bo3b2o$21bo6bo2b2o$21bo5bo$22b2ob2o
5$4b2o$4b2o2$2o5b2o$2o5b2o43$2o5b2o$2o5b2o2$4b2o$4b2o5$22b2ob2o$21bo5b
o$21bo6bo2b2o$21b3o3bo3b2o$26bo4$20b2o$20bo$21b3o$23bo!
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I think this two-hive constellation was mentioned elsewhere in the forum, but I can't find it...

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x = 16, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2obo$2ob3o$6bo$2ob2obo$bob2ob2o$bo$2b3ob2o$4bob2o7$5bo$5bobo$5b3o$7bo
2$14b2o$15bo$12b3o$12bo!
I think it was by ExtremeEnthusiast. The original author posted a conduit that makes the constellation. Is that the one above?
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Scorbie wrote:I think this two-hive constellation was mentioned elsewhere in the forum, but I can't find it...

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rle
I think it was by ExtremeEnthusiast. The original author posted a conduit that makes the constellation. Is that the one above?
It was indeed by ExtremeEnthusiast, on page 2 of the still life factories thread.
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A possibly useful catalyst, with a nice dimerized form:

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x = 7, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$4.A$A2.A$3.A$.2A2$.C$A.C$.2A$5.A$.5A$.A$4.2A$4.C.A$5.C!
Edit: Another, similar, one:

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x = 9, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$2.A$.A$2A4.2A$4.3A$5.A2$4.2C$4.2A$8.A$4.5A$4.A$7.2A$7.2C!
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What is this p5 called? I couldn't find any source other than golly's "billiard table.rle"

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$5b3ob3o$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo$obo2bo5bo2bobo$2o3bob3obo3b2o$6bo3bo$
7bobo$6b2ob2o!
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Saka wrote:What is this p5 called? I couldn't find any source other than golly's "billiard table.rle"

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$5b3ob3o$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo$obo2bo5bo2bobo$2o3bob3obo3b2o$6bo3bo$
7bobo$6b2ob2o!
Rotor sort of looks like the anchor from B2/S0:

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x = 2, y = 5, rule = B2/S0
bo$o2$o$bo!
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Saka wrote:What is this p5 called? I couldn't find any source other than golly's "billiard table.rle"

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$5b3ob3o$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo$obo2bo5bo2bobo$2o3bob3obo3b2o$6bo3bo$
7bobo$6b2ob2o!
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BlinkerSpawn wrote:
Saka wrote:What is this p5 called? I couldn't find any source other than golly's "billiard table.rle"

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$5b3ob3o$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo$obo2bo5bo2bobo$2o3bob3obo3b2o$6bo3bo$
7bobo$6b2ob2o!
Cauldron, I believe.
No, cauldron is p8, the oscillator I posted is p5
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Saka wrote:What is this p5 called? I couldn't find any source other than golly's "billiard table.rle"

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$5b3ob3o$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo$obo2bo5bo2bobo$2o3bob3obo3b2o$6bo3bo$
7bobo$6b2ob2o!
I don't know, but the snakes at the sides can be shortened:

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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5bobo$3b3ob3o$obo7bobo$2obo5bob2o$3bo5bo$3bob3obo$4bo3bo$5bobo$4b2ob2o!
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Jason Summers' pattern collection is the most comprehensive collection for now.
It's available in Game of Life Links somewhere in this forum or Golly Help > Online Archives.
And that p5 is in jslife.

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#C o0005-bil.lif. Spot your p5!
x = 343, y = 190, rule = B3/S23
2bob2o134bo10bo$2b2obo134b3o6b3o15b2o58bo104b2o$2o16b2obo13b2o14bo13b
2o24b2o50bo4bo12bob2obobo15b2o4b2o16b2o15b3o26b2o22b2o14bob2o9bo24bobo
$bo16bob2o12bob3o11bobo11bo2bo4b2o10b2o2b2o2bo45b5obo2bob5o7b2obobo16b
o2bo2bo2bo14bobo14bo3b2o25bo22bo15b2obo8bobo25bo$o12bob2obo3b2o10bo4bo
9bobobob2obo6b2o2b2o2bo11bo3bobo47bo4b4o4bo14bo15b2obo2bob2o11bo2bobob
2o5b2o3bob2o3bo23bo8bo10b2o3bo10bob2o12bobo8bo16bob2o$2o11b2obobob2o2b
o5bob2ob3o2bo8bo3bobob2o12b2o10bo4bo2b2o44bo3b2o6b2o3bo10b3o13b2o10b2o
9b3o2bo2bo5bo2b3o3b3o24b2o5b3o9bob4obo6bo2b2o3b2o2bo5b2ob2o5b3o14bobob
o$2bob2o15bobo6b2obo4b2o6b2obo3bo11b2o2bo13b2o3bobo45bob3o10b3obo24bo
2b3o4b3o2bo6b2o3b2obo8b2o3bobo25b2o3bo2bo12bo4bo2bo5b3o3b2ob4o6bo4bo2b
o15bo2bo2bo$2b2obo11b2obo2b2o9b2obo8b2obobo2bo10bo5b4o6b2o3bobobo46bo
3b2o6b2o3bo13b3o10bobob2o2b2obobo6bo2bobo3b2o9b2o3b4o21bo2b2o5bo7bob2o
b3o2b2o9b3o12bo2b2o5bo14bo2bobo$6b2o12bobo15b2o9bobob2o11b4obo2bo5bo2b
obo3bo49bo4b4o4bo15bo11b2obo8bob2o5b2obo5bo8b2obo6bo21b3o5bobo7b2obo
14b2o3bo2b3o7b3o5bobo12b2obobob2o$7bo12bobo14bo2bo8bobo18bo10b2o3b3o
49b5obo2bob5o15bobob2o9b3o2b3o12bo3bobo9bo3bob3o25bob2o4b2o10bobo2b2o
6bo3b3o3bo10bob2o4b2o12bo2bo$6bo14bo17b2o9bo2b2o13bo14b2obo56bo4bo18bo
bob2obo11bo2bo14b2o2b2o10bobobobo26bobobob2obo11bo5bo8bobo2b3o10bobobo
b2obo6b2o2bo5bo$6b2o43b2obo13b2o13bobo54b3o6b3o15b2o52b2ob2o28b2obobo
2bo9bobob4o8b2obo16b2obobo2bo6bo4b5o$2bob2o134bo10bo104bo2bo2b2o7bobob
o16b3o15bo2bo2b2o6b4o$2b2obo250bobo12bobobobo16bo15bobo16b2o$257bo14bo
3b2o33bo14b3obo$326bo2$52b2o105b2o4bo13b2o2b2o12b2o4bo12b2o4bo$52bobob
2o13bo17bo52b2o16bo3bobo13bo3bo2b2o9bo3bobo12bo3bobo$15b2o6b2o10bobo
16bobo14b3o13b5o46b2obo2bo14bo4bobo12bo4bobobo8bo4bobo11bo4bobo$14bo2b
o6bo8b3ob3o14bobo11bo5bob2o8bo5bo46bob2obo14b2o2b2ob2o11b2o2b2obo10b2o
2b2obob2o8b2o2b2ob2o66bo12b2o7bo$14bobo3bobo7bobo7bobo5b2o4b2ob2obo7b
5obobo9bob4obo44bo3bobobo16bo19bo3bo13bo2bo2bo12bo4bo25b2o21bo15bobo
11bo6b3o8bo$13b2obobobob2o6b2obo5bob2o5bo8bob2o5b2o6bobo7b3o6b3o40bo2b
2o2bo3bo2bo8b2o3b4o11b2o3b2obo9b2o3b2obo10b2o3b2obobo25bo20bobo14b2o
13b3o2bo10bobo$15bo8bo8bo5bo9b4o4bo9bobo6b2o5bo4bo2bo4bo39b2obo4b2ob4o
8bo3bo4bo10bo3bo2bo10bo3bo3b2o9bo3bo3bobo25bob2o17bobo12b2o17bo2b2o9bo
bo$15bob2ob2ob2o8bob3obo12bo3b2o9bobob5o8b3o6b3o43bo3bo2bo9b2obo4bo2bo
bo6b2obo4b2o8b2obo4bobo8b2obo4bo2bob2o25bo2bo11bo2b2obob2o9bo3b3o25b2o
2bobo$14b2o2bobo13bo3bo10b3o3bo10b2obo5bo10bob4obo45b2o3b2o2bo7bobo3bo
bo2bo2bo5bobo3bobo9bobo3bobobo8bobo3bobo2bobo28bo12b4o2bo3bo7bob4o2bo
25bobo7bo$17bo2bo14bobo11bo2b4o14b3o14bo5bo51bob2o10b4o2b2o2b2o8b4obo
12b4ob2o12b4o2b3obo27b2obo15bo2bobo6bobo5b2o12bob2o8bo2b2obo2b2obo$18b
2o14b2ob2o13bo19bo15b5o52bo17b2o18bo36b2o3bo27bo3bobo2bo7b4o4b2o5bo3bo
5b2o9bobob3o6b2o2bob2o3bobo$53bo36bo53b2o15bo2bo16bo15b2o19bo2bo2bo27b
ob2o3b4o7bo2bob3o8bo2bobob2o2bo6b3obo4bo9bobo4bo2bo$52b2o107b2o18b2o
14b2o19b2o4b2o27bo2b2o13b2obo3b2o7bo3bobo2b2o5bo3bo2b3o9b2ob5o2b2o$
254bo3b3o11bobobo2bo8b4obo10b2o2b2o14bo$255b3o2bo11bobob2o14bo13b2o2bo
13bob2o$257bo15bo16bo15bo2bo15bobo$57b2o231b2o15b2o$36b2o19b2o23b2obo
20b2o107b2o$18b2o3bo12bo2bob2o35b2o2bob2o13bo5bo2bo33b2o12b2o18b2o19b
2o17bo$18bobobobo8b2obob2ob2o12b6o17bobobo3b2o10bobob2o2bobo34bo11bo2b
o11bob2obobo15b2obobo15bo$13b2o5bobo2bo7b2obo13b2o2bo6bo13bo4bob4o2bo
8bo2bobob2obo34bo11bob2obo10b2obobo18bobo15b4o$13bobo3bo2b3o11bo2b6o5b
o2bobo3b2obo11bobo5bo2bobo9bob2o4bo32b2obob3o8bo4bo16bo3b2o12bo2bo3b2o
8bo5bob2o109b2o$15bo2bo2bo11b2obo7bo6bobo2bo3bobo11bobo6b2o2b2o5b2obo
3bob2o2bo31bobobo2bo6b2obob2obo12b3o4bo8bob2ob3o4bo9b5o3bo39b2o34b2o
31bo2bo$15b2o6b2o9bo7bo9bobo7bobo7b2o2b2o6bobo7b2obo6bob2o30bo2bo4bo7b
o4bob3o17bob2o5b2obo8bob2o9bo4bob2o31bo5bo10b2ob2o15b2obo2bo8bob2o12b
2o4bobobo$18bo2bo2bo7bo7bob2o10bobo3bo2bobo7bobo2bo5bobo10bo4bobo33bob
ob3ob2o6bob2o2bo3bo12b3ob2obo8bo4b3ob2obo6b2o3b2obob2o30bobob3o12bobob
o13bobob2obo8b2obo11bo2bo2b2obo2bo$15b3o2bo3bobo5b6o2bo13bob2o3bobo2bo
5bo2b4obo4bo11bob5o2b2o29b2ob2o2bo2bo7bo3bob3o13bo2bo12b2o3bo2bo10bo2b
o3bo35b2obo11bo2bo2bobo12bo2bo3b2o10bobo10b2o2bo7bo$14bo2bobo5b2o13bob
2o11bo6bo2b2o6b2o3bobobo15bo8bo28bo8b2o9b4obo16bobo18bobo11b6o50bobobo
3b2o9b2obo3b2obo8b3obobo11b4o4b2obo$15bobobobo12b2ob2obob2o12b6o13b2ob
o2b2o16b8o30b3ob4o15bo15bobob2o15bobob2o50b4o12bobobobo3b2o6bobobobo2b
obo7bo4bobo9b2o11bo$16bo3b2o12b2obo2bo34bob2o22bo2bo34bobo2bo13bo17b2o
19b2o16b2o36bo6bo9bo5b3o2bo5bo6b2o2b2o6bo2bo3bob2o5bobob2o5b3o$39b2o
17b2o98b2o55b2o37bobobobo10b4obo3b2o6b5obo3bo6b2obo2bobob2o6bo2bo4bobo
$58b2o191b3o2bobob3o12bo17bo2bobo8bobobobo12bo2bob2o$251bo4b2obo3bo9bo
16b2obob2ob2o7bobobobo13b3obo$253b3o3bo2b2o9b2o15bo2bo14b2ob2o18bobo$
252b2o2b3o33b2o35b2obobo$86b2o168bo71bobobobo$87bo53b2o5b2o14bo35b2o
24bo2bo99bo3bo$35b2o11bo17b2o2bo16bobo51bo2b2obo2bo12bobo35bo24b4o$19b
2o12b3obo10b3o15bo2bobo13b2obobo51b2obob2obo10b3obo14bobo2bo14bo3bo19b
2o4b2o$13bob2obobo11bo4bo13bo11bo3b2o2bo12bo3bobo49bobo2bo2bob2o8bo4b
2o11b3ob4o13bob4o18bo3b2o2bo$13b2obobo13bobobob2o6b3obobo10b4o4b2o10bo
2bobobob2o44b3o3b4o3bo5bo2b4o13bo3bo15b3o5b2o15bob3ob3o$19bo9b2obo3bob
o6bo2bobob3o13b3o2bo8bo7bo2bo43bo3bo5bob2o6b3o5b4o9b2obob5o8bo4b2obo2b
o9b2o3bo60bo$17b3o9bobo6bo7bo8bo7b4o5b2o5bo2bobo3bo2bo46bobo6bobo10bo
2bo5bo9bobo6bo8b3o3bob2obo8bo2bo4b2ob3o23b2o2b2o21b3o13b2o$32b3obob2o
7b3obobo2bo5bo5b4o7b3o7b2o46b2obo5bo3bo8bo5bo2bo10bo6bobo10bob2obo3b3o
7b3ob2o4bo2bo22bo2bobo15b2o3bo17bo2b2o$20b2o13b2o2bo9bobob3o6b2o2b2o3b
o10b3obo49bo3b4o3b3o10b4o5b3o8b5obob2o10bo2bob2o4bo14bo3b2o23bobo17bo
4b2o16bobobo$20bo11b2o3b2o11bo16bo2bo10bo5bo48b2obo2bo2bobo17b4o2bo14b
o3bo10b2o5b3o7b3ob3obo27b2ob2o13b2obo21b2obo$21b3o8bob3o14b3o13bobo12b
4obo49bob2obob2o16b2o4bo13b4ob3o13b4obo8bo2b2o3bo27bo3bobo12bo2bobo9b
2o5bobo4bo23b2o2b2o$23bo12bo16bo14bo17bo50bo2bob2o2bo16bob3o14bo2bobo
15bo3bo9b2o4b2o27bob2obob2o12b2obob2o7bo6b2obobobo23bo3bobo$84bo53b2o
5b2o16bobo40bo12b4o29bobo6bo12bobo3bo4bobo9bo8b2o18bo5bo$84b2o78bo41b
2o11bo2bo28b2o2bobo3b2o2b2o7bobo4bo3b2o10bo5b2o2bo16bobo3b2obo$253bobo
7bo2bo8bo6bo15b2o5b2o15b3obobo2bo2bo$253bobo3bob5o10b3o3bo17bo2bo17bo
3bo3bo3b2o$184bo69bo23bo4bo16bo4b4o12b2o2bob2obo$161bo20b5obo18b2o19b
2o27b3obob2obo11bob3o3bo14b3obo2bo17bobo$22b2obo114b2o2bo15bobo18bo5b
2o19bo3b2o9b2o2bobo26bo3b2obob2o12bo3b4o17bo22bo2b3obo$21bo2b2o15b2o
34b2o61bo2bobo13bobobo17b2ob2o17bo3bo4bo10bo3bo29b2o3bo17b3o20bo24b2o
3b2o$20bobo3b2o14bo14b2o18bo3bo11b2o46b3obo13bobobo18bobob3o14b3o2b3ob
o6b2o3b3ob4o27b3o20bobo18b2o25b2o$20bobob2o2bo11bo17bo19b4o11bobo42bo
7b2o9b2ob3ob2o16bo6bo16b2o3bo7bobo4bobo3bo26bo23b2o45bo$17b2obobo2bobo
11bob4o8b2obo18b3o17b3o40b5obobo9bobo5bobo12b2ob2o4bobo10b4o3bo12bo7bo
b2o95bobo$17b2obo3bo2b2o10bobo3bo7bob3o3b2ob2o8bo4bo14bo3bo37b2o5b2obo
9bobobobobobo8b2obobobo2bo2bobo9bo4b2obo2bo9b3o5bo98b2o$20bo3bobo9b2ob
o4bobo15bobo9bobobobo13b2ob2o38bob2o5b2o6b2o2bo5bo2b2o6b2obo3bo3bo3bob
2o6bob2obobob2obo11bo5b3o$15b6obobobo9bo2b2o3bobo7b4o3bo2bo6b2obobo3bo
10b2obo4b2o36bobob5o7bo2b2o3bo3b2o2bo8bobo2bo2bobobob2o7bo2bob2o4bo8b
2obo7bo$14bo6bobobo8bobobo3bobob2o6bo2bo3bobo7bobo3bob2ob2o8bobobobo2b
o34b2obo5bo8bo3b2o3b2o3bo9bobo4b2ob2o14bo3b4o9bo3bobo4bobo$13bob3o2bo
2bo10b2o2b2obo3bo9bo3bobob2o9b3o4bobo8bo5bob2o38b3o12b2o3b3o3b2o11bo6b
o14bo3b2o15b4ob3o3b2o$13bo7b3o14bo3b2obo8b2obob2o16b4o8b2ob2o4bo43bo
14b2o5b2o14b3obobo13bob3o2b3o16bo3bo$14bobob3o18b3o2bo11bobo17bo12bobo
2bobobo58bob5obo17b2ob2o12bo4bo3bo14bobo2b2o$13b2ob2o3bo19bobo12bobo
17bobo13bobob2o63bo18b2o5bo11b2o3bo19b2o$15bo3b2o21bo14bo19b2o14bo86bo
b5o17b2o$15bob2o165bo$16bobo4$250b2o3b2o18b2o21b2o$251bo3bo14b2o3b2o3b
2o16bo$249bo7bo12bo10bo8bo8bo$247b4o5b4o7b2obo10bob2o5b3o5b2o2bo$246bo
13bo6bo2bob2o4b2obo2bo8bo2bo3b3o$246bo2bobo3bobo2bo8b2obo6bob2o9bo5b2o
$18b2o225b2obobobobobobob2o8bobob4obobo10bobo5bo$19bo228bo2bo3bo2bo11b
o3bo2bo3bo8b2o4b2ob2o$19bob2o66b2o4bo152bobo5bobo12b2ob4ob2o10bob2obo
4b2o$18b2obobo16b2o2bo12bo14b2o16bo3bobo150b2ob7ob2o13bo4bo12bo2bobob
2o2bo$18bo2bobo16bo2bobo9b3o13bo2bo14bo4bobo86b2o20bo43bo7bo15bob2obo
13bobob2ob2o$19b3obob2o2bo7bo3b2o2bo8bo16bobo3bob2o8b2o2b2obob2o44b2o
36bobo19bobo14b2o26bobo2b2obo16bob2o15bo$16b3o5bob4o7b4o4b2o7bo2b3o9b
2o2bobobobobo11bo3bobo44bo17b2o15bo2bo15bob2obo2bo14bo28b2o2bobo$15bo
4bobobo10b2o5b3o2bo5b2obo3bo9bobo8bo7b2o3b2obo43bo3bo2b2o12bobob2o10bo
bobo13b4obob2ob2o14b3o$15b4o5b4o7bo2b3o5b2o6bobo3bo9bob2ob2ob3o8bo3bo
2bobo40b6obo2bo14bob2o10bobobob2o9bo8bobo12b3o3bo$18bobobo4bo8b2o4b4o
7bo2bo3bob2o5b2obo3bobo8bobo4b2o2bo39bo5bob3o3bo10b2o11b2o2b3o13bob2ob
2o4bo10bo4bobo$13b4obo5b3o10bo2b2o3bo8b2ob2obobo10b3o2bo8b2o6bobo40b2o
b2o6b4o7b2o4b2o7bobobo4bo12b2o5bob2o10bobobobob2o$13bo2b2obob3o13bobo
2bo12bo3bo2bo12bobo17bob2o42bo5bo11bo3bob2obo6bobobo4bobo13bo3bo10b2ob
obo3bobo$19bobo2bo13bo2b2o12bobobobo14bo19bo2bo36b4o6b2ob2o8bobo6bo5b
2obobo2bobob3o8b2obo5b2o7bobo3bob2obo$19bobob2o31b2ob2o36b2o37bo3b3obo
5bo7b2obobob3o9bo7bo3bo7bo4b2ob2obo9b3o3bob2o$20b2obo115bo2bob6o10bob
2obo11b2o3b2obo2bo9bobo8bo11b3obo62b2o$23bo115b2o2bo3bo12bo22bobobo9b
2ob2obob4o11bo2bobo63bo39b2o$23b2o119bo14b2o22bo2bo11bo2bob2obo13b2o2b
o22b2o21bo16bobob2o36bo$143b2o37b2o14bobo46bo21bobo14bobobobo20b2o9bob
o4bo$199bo48b3obo16bobo14bobo19b2o4bo8bob6obo$250bob3o13b2ob2o10b2obob
ob2o11b2o3bobobo10bo8bo2bo$255bo10bo16b2obobo3bo10bo6bob2o7b2ob4o2bobo
bobo$90b2o160b2o2bo12b4o13bo2bob2o7b2obobo4bo4bo6bo4b2obobo2bo$19b2o
17b2o28b2o20bobob2o152bo5b2o9bo6bo8b5o3bo10bo2bobo4bo2b3o6bobobo5bo$
19bobo16bo19bo9bobo21bobo2bo63bo33bo52bobobobo10bobobobo8bo10b2o9b2obo
3b3o11bo2bob4o$16bo4b3o11bo3bo14b2obobo10bo4b2o15bobob2o42bo19bobo15b
2o14bobo13bob2o32b3obobobo8b3obobob2o5bo2b4o5bo2bo12b2obo2b4o8b2o$16b
5o3bo10b4obo12bobobo2bo6bo2b3o3bo13bo3bo44bobob2o15bobo10b2o3b2o12b3o
2bo12b2obo31bo3bob2ob2o6bo3bob2obo6b3o4b2o3bo2bo13bobo5bo10b2o2b2o$22b
o2bo7b2o5bo2bo7b3obob2obo6b3o6bob2o5b2o2bo2bobo44bobobobo13b2o2b2o8bo
17bo3bobo8bob2o3bob2o28b2o2bo12b2o2bo4bo9bobo4b2obob2o12bo2b3o13bo4bo$
16b3o2b4o7bo3b2o2bobobo5bo3b2o2bob2o8b2o3b2o2bo5bo6b2o43b2o2bo3bo11bo
3bobo6b2obo17b2ob2obob2o5b2o2bob2obo32b2o15b2o4b2o7bo2bobobo2bo2bo12b
2o4bo14bo2bo$13bobo15bob2o5bo2bo6bobo4bo3bo7bo7b2o7b3ob2o44bo6bob2o9bo
2b3obo6bo2bob2ob3o7b2obo5bobo9bo5bo64b2o2b2obo5bo32b2o2b2o$13b2obo2bob
2o9bo3b3obo10b2ob2obob2o9b2obob2o14bo44bob2o3b2o2bo7b2obo3bo8b2obo2bob
o9bo2b2o3bobo6b2ob3o3bob2o69b5o$16bobo4bo9b3o3bo17bobo11bobo2bo9b5o46b
o8bo6bo2bobob2o12bo2bobobo7bo7bob2o5bobo6bob2o71bo$16bo2bobobo11bo2bo
11bob2obobo2bo10bo2b2o10bo51b8o7b3o3bo14b2obob2obo7b3o2bobo11b2o2bobo$
17bobob2o15b2o10b2obob2o2b2o9b2o16bo67b2obo17bo4bo10bobobo13bobobo$18b
o68b2o51b4o11bo2bo18bob3o10bo2bob2o12bo2bo$140bo2bo12b2o20b2o13b2o17b
2o$293bo$253b2o19b2o16bobo15b2o5b2o$247b2o3bo2bo18bo18bo17bo5bo$34bo2b
o18b2o8b2o3b2o174bo3bo2b2o9bo10bo13bo5bo10bobo9bobo11b2ob2o$18bob2o12b
4o17bo2bobo5bobobobo16b2o126bo31bo2b2o2b2o7b3o4b4obo12b7o10b2ob4ob4ob
2o10bobobobo$16b3obobo15b2o14bo2bob2o7bobo12bob2obobo52bo17bo20b2o18b
2o12bobo29b4o2bo3bo9bo2bo3bobo32bo2bobo2bo12bo7bo$15bo6bo13bobobo13b2o
bo9bo2bo12b2obobo53bobo16b3o17bo2bo16bo2bo10bo2bo26b2o6bob3o9bo2bob2o
2b2ob2o7b4o3b4o8b2o11b2o8bob2o3b2obo$13bo2bob3obob2o8b3o3bo16bob2o6b4o
bo3b2o10bo50bobobobo18bo13bo3bo2bo14bob2obo9bobob2o24bob5o3bo11bob2o7b
obo6bo4bobo4bo6bob2o9b2obo7bo3bobo3bo$13b2obo3b3ob2o7bo6bob2o7b2o3b2ob
2o11bobo2bo9b2obo46b3obobobo13b6o13b4ob2obob2o10bo4bo8b2obo3bo25bo3bob
2o9b2obo4bob4o8bob2o7b2obo5bo6bobo6bo5b2obo2bobo2bob2o$16bo5bo8bo2bob
3obobo7bobo4bo9b4o3b3o8bo4bobo2bo40bo4bo3bob2o8bo2bo15b2o5bo2b2obo8bob
2obob2o5bo4b2o2bo25bobobobo10b2obo3b2o13bobobo5bobobo6b3obobobobob3o7b
o5bo5bo$16bob3obo8b2obo3b3obobo5bo4bobo9bo3b2o12b4o3b4o41b3obo3bobo9b
2o3b3o10bo3b2o2bobo10b3obo4bo6b2obo3bo2b2o21b2obobo3bo12bo5b3o11bo2bo
5bo2bo9bob3ob3obo8bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo$17bo3bo12bo5bo2b2o6b6o12bo3b2o14b2o
48bobob2o2bo6b2obo7bob2o5bob2o5bobo9bo3bo2b2obo13b3o2bo21bo2b5o13bob4o
3bo11b2o3bo3b2o11bo3bo3bo10b2o9b2o$18bobo13bob3obo27b2ob2o2bo11bo3b3o
46b2o2bobo8bobobo5bobo7bo3b3ob2o11b3obo3bo7b4o7bo22bo21bo3bo2b2o13b7o
14b2obob2o13b4ob4o$17b2ob2o13bo3bo13b2o12bo2bobo2bo11b2obo2bo48b2o2b2o
7bobobo2b4o2bo7b3o3bo15bob3o9bo3bobob3o24b3o2b2o15bo20bo5bo16bobo15bo
2bobo2bo$36bobo14b2o13b2o3b2o16b2o50bobo10b2obo6b2o10bobobo16bo3b4o6bo
2bo3bo28bo2b2o14b2o22bobo18bobo$35b2ob2o103bobo14b6o13bobo18bo2bo2bo7b
obobo72b2ob2o18bo$144bo17bo2bo14bo18b2o14b2ob2o2$66bo18bob2o$37bo26b3o
18b2o2bo18bobobo$36bobo24bo5bo18b2o17bob3obo$17b2ob2o2b2o10bobo23bob6o
13b5o2b2o13b3o5b3o$18bobo4bo8b2o2bobo4b2obo13bo7b2o10bo4bobo2bo11bo4b
3o4bo23b2o2bo12b2o21bo18bo2bo$18bobobo2bob2o6bobo4bo2bob2o11b2o4b2o2bo
11bo2bobo2bo2bo9bob4obob4obo22bo3b3o11b3o19b3o16b4o11b2o3bo35bo$15b2ob
o4bobo2bo5bo2b2obo2bobo3b2o8bo5bo2bobo8b2obobo3bob2obo9bobo4bo4bobo23b
o5bo8bo4bo16b2o3bo13b2o4b2o9bo4b3o27b2o3bobo76b2o$13bo2bobo4bob2o8b2o
3bobo2bob2o2bo6bobo7bobob2o6bobo5bo3bob2o6b2o2bo7bo2b2o20bobob2o2bo8b
4obo15bo3b2obo11bo3b3o2bo5b2obo7bobo24bo3bobobo15b2o57bo2bo$13b2obo2bo
bobo13b2obo2bo4bobo7bobo2bo3bo2bobo6bo2b3o4b2o3bobo7bobo7bobo20b3obo3b
ob2o27bob3obobo10bob3obob2o6b2obob2o3bob2o25bo2bobobo15b2o17b2o19b2o
16bo2b2o$16bo4bobo13bob2o4bobo2b2o5b2obobo7bobo6bobo3b2o4b3o2bo5b2o2bo
7bo2b2o17bo4bo3bo10b3o4b2o8bo2bo7b2o6bo2bo7bo10bobobo2bo25b3obobo3bob
2o16bo9bob2o2bo12b2o4bo2bo13bo2b2o2b2o$16b2o2b2ob2o22bobo10bobo2bo5bo
8b2obo3bo5bobo7bobo4bo4bobo18bobob2o13bo9bo6bobobobo3bobo6bobobobo3bob
o10bobob2obo24bo4bobo4bobo10b7o9b2obobo13bo5b2obo11b5o2bo3bo$47bobo10b
o2b2o4b2o11bob2obo3bobob2o6bob4obob4obo19b2obob5obo6bo2bo4bobo7bo2bobo
bobobo7bo2bobobobob2o8b2o5bo24bob2o2bo3b3o12bo21b2o13bo6bob2obo6bo6bob
3o$48bo10b2o7bo13bo2bo2bobo2bo10bo4b3o4bo24b2o4b2o5b2obobobobob2o9bo6b
o11bo6bo12bob3o26bo20bo2bobobob2o13bo5b2o7b2o2b3obobob2o6bo2b3obobo$
61b6obo14bo2bobo4bo11b3o5b3o28b2o9bo2bo2bobo2bo10b6o13b5obo12bobo29b4o
5b4o7b3o4bobobo11bobobo3bo8bobo2bo12b2obo2bo$61bo5bo16b2o2b5o14bob3obo
27b2obo10bo5bob2o36bo14bo43bo9b3o5bo11bo2bob3o7bo3bo3bobo12bo3bobo$64b
3o19b2o20bobobo28bo2bo11b5o18b2o17b3o48b3o3bo2b2obo7bo3bob3o9b2obo3bo
10b2o4bo3bo14bo3bo$64bo21bo2b2o51b2o14bo20b2o17bo47bobo4bobo4bo9b4obo
11bobob3o2b2o10b7o10bob7o$87b2obo155b2obo3bobob3o14bo14bo2bo4bo7b3o17b
2o$249bobobo2bo15bo16b2o3bo2bobo5bo2bo2b2o15b4o$249bobobo3bo14b2o19b2o
3b2o7b2o2b2o12b2obo2bo$250bobo3b2o67bobo$100b2o96b2o17b2o32bo$20b2ob2o
17b2o20b2o19b2o5bo8bo5b2o30b2o20b2o17b2o14b3obo17bo$19bobobobo15bo2bo
3b2o13bo2bo10b2o5bo2bo3bobo6bo5bo2bob2o25bo2bo18bo2bo16bo14bo4bo9b2obo
b3o$18bo3bo3bo14bob2o2bobo9b2o2b2obo2bo6bo2bo4b2obo3bobo6b2o4b2obobo2b
2obo21bobo17bobo2bo12b2obo15b4ob2o7bob2obo$17bob2obob3o8b2o2b2obo2b3o
10bo2bobo2bobobo6b2o2b2obo2bob2obo10b2obo2bo2bobob2o18b4ob2o15bobob2ob
o11bobob2o18bobo15b2o$17bobobobo3b2o6bo2bobo3bo3bo8bobobo3bobobobo7b2o
bo3bobobo8bob2obo3bob3o23bo6bo14bobo4bo9bobobobobob2o9b4obo2bo6b4o2bo
2bo$15b2o2bo3bobo3bo6b2o2bo3bobo2bo8bo2bo3bobo3bo7bo2bo3bobo2bo7b2obob
o3bobo2bo25b4o3b2ob2o5b2o2bo2bob2o7bobob2o3bobo10bo4b4o6bo2bo3b2o32b2o
$14bobob2obobob4obo6bob2obobob4o9b2ob2obo2b3o9b2ob2obo2b3o10b2ob2obo2b
3o24bo4bo3bob2o6bobo3bo3bo6bobobo4bo2bo10bo14bo3bo34bo2bo23b2o$13bo2bo
11bo2bo5bo12b2o4b3o8bo9b3o8bo10b3o8bo27b2o2b2o3bo9bobobo2bobobo6bobo2b
o3bobo8bob2o2b2o8b2obobobobo30b2obo15b2o4bo2bo$13b2o2b3o5bobo2b2o3b2ob
3o5bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o5bo2b3o3bo3b3o5bo2b3o4bo3b3o5bo2b3o27bobobo10bo3b2o
3bo9bobo3b2ob2o6bobo5bo10bob2ob2obo27bobo2b3o13bo6b2o$15b2o11b2o4bobo
13bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo13bobo3bobo13bobo25bo2b2o12b3o2b3o10bobobo2bo2bo
6bo2b5o11bo7bo25b3o3bo3bo9b2obo2b3o$13b2o2bobo5b3o2b2o2bo2bo2bo5b3ob2o
4b3o2bo5b3o3bo3b3o2bo5b3o3bo4b3o2bo5b3o3bo25b2o17bo2bo13b2ob2o2b2o6b2o
4bo12b2o7b2o23bo3b3ob4o2bo7bob2o4b3o$13bo2bo11bo2bo3b2o12bo11bo8b3o9bo
8b3o10bo8b3o129bob2o5bo2bobobo6bo4bobo2bo$14bob4obobob2obobo6b4obobob
2obo8b3o2bob2ob2o9b3o2bob2ob2o10b3o2bob2ob2o133bo3b2o2bobo2b2o8b3obobo
bo$15bo3bobo3bo2b2o7bo2bobo3bo2b2o6bo3bobo3bo2bo8bo2bobo3bo2bo9bo2bobo
3bobob2o131b2o5bobobo13b2o2bo$16b2o3bobobobo10bo3bo3bobo2bo5bobobobo3b
obobo8bobobo3bob2o10b3obo3bob2obo133b4ob2o2bo10b2o3b2o$18b3obob2obo11b
3o2bob2o2b2o6bobobo2bobo2bo7bob2obo2bob2o2b2o3b2obobo2bo2bob2o137bo3bo
4b2o9bob3o$18bo3bo3bo10bobo2b2obo13bo2bob2o2b2o7bobo3bob2o4bo2bo2bob2o
2bobob2o4b2o136bobo19bo$19bobobobo11b2o3bo2bo16bo2bo11bobo3bo2bo5b2o8b
2obo2bo5bo135b2ob2o$20b2ob2o18b2o18b2o13bo5b2o20b2o5bo$113b2o!
It's likely that most small low-period billiard tables are known.
Edit: Oh, you said about naming the oscillator. As you can see in the above collection, there are a LOT of p5 billiard tables, so we didn't give every one of them a name. Except for the one of the first oscillators.
At least pentadecathlon.com calls it as 33P5.2.
http://pentadecathlon.com/objects/objec ... jid=33P5.2
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A seed (?) for the block-on-eater pseudo SL found in [[whatever that conduit is]]:

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x = 15, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo2bo4bo$b2o3bo3bo2b2o$7b3o3b2o4$6b3o!
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Inspired by Mike Playle's twin bee stabilization searching, I decided to look for alternative stablizations using ptbsearch. Here's what came out from a 2-catalyst search. They're all trivial, but the eater2 over there may be stabilzed to something new.

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x = 199, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
28b2o78b2o78b2o$28bo79bo79bo$26bobo77bobo77bobo$4bobobobobobo2b2o7b2o
56bobobobobobo2b2o7b2o56bobobobobobo2b2o7b2o$2o2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o
2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo$2o17bo60b2o17bo60b2o17bo$4bo
bobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o$4bobobobobobo69bobo
bobobobo69bobobobobobo2$4bobobobobobo69bobobobobobo69bobobobobobo19b2o
$4bobobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o9b2obo2bo$2o17bo
60b2o17bo60b2o17bo8bobob3o$2o2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo
60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo8bobo$4bobobobobobo2b2o7b2o56bobobobobobo2b2o
65bobobobobobo2b2o7b3ob5o$26bobo156bo3bo4bo$28bo75bobobo76b4o2bo$28b2o
72b3ob2obo78bob2o$101bo7bo75b2obo$101bob2ob3o77bobo$102bobobo77bobob2o
$184b2o30$29bob2o76bob2o76bob2o$27b3ob2o74b3ob2o74b3ob2o$26bo79bo79bo$
26bob2ob2o73bob2ob2o73bob2ob2o$25b2ob2obo73b2ob2obo73b2ob2obo$31bo79bo
79bo$25b2ob3o74b2ob3o74b2ob3o$4bobobobobobo2b2o6b2obo55bobobobobobo2b
2o6b2obo55bobobobobobo2b2o6b2obo$2o2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o2bobobobobob
o2bobo60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo$2o17bo60b2o17bo60b2o17bo$4bobobobobobo2b
3o64bobobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o$4bobobobobobo69bobobobobobo69bo
bobobobobo2$4bobobobobobo69bobobobobobo69bobobobobobo$4bobobobobobo2b
3o64bobobobobobo2b3o64bobobobobobo2b3o$2o17bo60b2o17bo60b2o17bo12b2obo
$2o2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo60b2o2bobobobobobo2bobo13b
ob3o$4bobobobobobo2b2o65bobobobobobo2b2o65bobobobobobo2b2o13bo5bo$193b
3obo$28b2o165bob2o$28bo$29b3o75b2o$31bo75bobo$108b2o2$105b2o$106bo$
103b3o$102bo$102b2o2$99b2o$99bobo$100b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

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Scorbie wrote:Inspired by Mike Playle's twin bee stabilization searching, I decided to look for alternative stablizations using ptbsearch. Here's what came out from a 2-catalyst search.
One of these reduces the smallest p138 gun slightly:

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x = 51, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
o35b2o5b2o$32b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$13b3o16b2o13b2o$13bobo3$14bo2bo$11bo2b2ob
o$10bobo2bobo$10bobo3bo$11bo11b2o$22bo2bo$23b2o11b3o3b3o$29b2o5bo2bobo
2bo$25b2o3bo5b2obobob2o$6b3o15b2o3b2o5b2o5b2o$9bo13bo$2b2o3b2o15b3o$2b
o3b2o$2b2o$8b2o28b2ob2o$7bo2bo25bo2bob2o6b2o$8b2o11bo14bobo11bo$16bo3b
obo13b3o7bobo$15bobo2bobo23b4o$15bob2o2bo24bo$15bo2bo13b2o11b2ob2o$31b
obo12bobo$31bo14bobo$17bobo10b2o15bo$17b3o24bo$45bo$43b3o!
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