is this c/10 spaceship known?
Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
stupid question: how do I go about looking for new spaceship speeds? More specifically, how do I run wls and gfind? I'm not the best in the world with computers
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
@codeholic: Sure, see the high-period c/5 ships based on spider/glider collisions..
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To think what is still hidden in the low period universe after so many years of searches.
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To think what is still hidden in the low period universe after so many years of searches.
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
Unbelievable!
This spaceship can eat gliders:
A glider can cleanly destroy it:
As Ivan pointed out, it can turn glider into a pond:
This spaceship can eat gliders:
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x = 20, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$13b4o2$12b6o$13b4o2$12b2o2b2o$10b2obo2bob2o$13bo2bo3$14b2o$14b2o
6$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 20, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$13b4o2$12b6o$13b4o2$12b2o2b2o$10b2obo2bob2o$13bo2bo3$14b2o$14b2o
13$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 19, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13bo2bo$13bo2bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$11b3o2b3o$11bob4obo$
12bo4bo3$14b2o$14b2o10$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 19, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
13bo2bo$13bo2bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$12bo4bo$11b3o2b3o$11bob4obo$
12bo4bo3$14b2o$14b2o7$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 19, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
12b2o2b2o$12b2o2b2o$11b3o2b3o$11b3o2b3o2$11bo6bo$11bo2b2o2bo$12b6o3$3o
11b2o$2bo11b2o$bo!
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x = 19, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$12b2o2b2o$14b2o$11bo6bo$12bo4bo$14b2o$11b3o2b3o$11b2o4b2o3$14b2o
$13bo2bo12$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
By the way, which of the four phases with 28 cells should be canonical? I guess, the first one?
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x = 46, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
17b2o10b2o10b2o$b2o2b2o10b2o9bo2bo7b2o2b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8bo2bo9b2o$3b2o
11b4o7bo4bo5bo6bo$obo2bobo7bob2obo6bo4bo6bo4bo$o6bo8bo2bo8b4o9b2o$27b
2o2b2o5b3o2b3o$o6bo7b2o2b2o6bo4bo5b2o4b2o$b2o2b2o7bo6bo5bo4bo$2b4o$15b
o4bo20b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8b4o8bo2bo$3b2o12b2o10b2o!
It can also turn a glider into a pond. But nothing that can be used as a igniter. There is a slight chance that there is an appropriate reaction with two of them.Alexey_Nigin wrote:This spaceship can eat gliders:
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
I'd say the first one. The fourth one kind of looks like a gangster wearing a tiara.codeholic wrote:By the way, which of the four phases with 28 cells should be canonical? I guess, the first one?Code: Select all
x = 46, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 17b2o10b2o10b2o$b2o2b2o10b2o9bo2bo7b2o2b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8bo2bo9b2o$3b2o 11b4o7bo4bo5bo6bo$obo2bobo7bob2obo6bo4bo6bo4bo$o6bo8bo2bo8b4o9b2o$27b 2o2b2o5b3o2b3o$o6bo7b2o2b2o6bo4bo5b2o4b2o$b2o2b2o7bo6bo5bo4bo$2b4o$15b o4bo20b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8b4o8bo2bo$3b2o12b2o10b2o!
Should we set up a poll for the name of the ship?
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Can someone update the main page with this ship?
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This is amazing! It doesn't even look remotely like a Life pattern to me, more like something from B36/S245... Just, wow...
zdr has the right to name the ship if they wish, following standard convention for new important patterns. We should probably wait a bit to give them a chance to do so before going on to public naming.
zdr has the right to name the ship if they wish, following standard convention for new important patterns. We should probably wait a bit to give them a chance to do so before going on to public naming.
Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
I think the discoverer has the right to officially name it.muzik wrote:Should we set up a poll for the name of the ship?
For the same reason, Sawmill is still officially unnamed (I was afraid of letting it get stuck with an extremely boring name).
I do like "cuttlefish" for this new ship.
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
I just had a thought.... I think this is the first time a c/n velocity has been found before the velocity c/(n-1)...!(ignoring c/2, because lightspeed spaceships are impossible anyway)
Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
Orthogonal of course. This happened with the corderships.Sphenocorona wrote:I just had a thought.... I think this is the first time a c/n velocity has been found before the velocity c/(n-1)...!(ignoring c/2, because lightspeed spaceships are impossible anyway)
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
I'd actually say the third one, as that one has the smallest bounding box of those four (by area). (A 30-cell phase has the smallest bounding box of all phases.)muzik wrote:I'd say the first one. The fourth one kind of looks like a gangster wearing a tiara.codeholic wrote:By the way, which of the four phases with 28 cells should be canonical? I guess, the first one?Code: Select all
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Congrats on finding this. Who knows what other small ships may lurk on the edges of what we've searched. Perhaps we can keep better track of unsuccessful searches?
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I agree with EE, it should be the third - both because of its bounding box and because, in my opinion, the first kinda looks like it's going to move backwards (thanks to the sloped shape at the bottom).codeholic wrote:By the way, which of the four phases with 28 cells should be canonical? I guess, the first one?Code: Select all
x = 46, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 17b2o10b2o10b2o$b2o2b2o10b2o9bo2bo7b2o2b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8bo2bo9b2o$3b2o 11b4o7bo4bo5bo6bo$obo2bobo7bob2obo6bo4bo6bo4bo$o6bo8bo2bo8b4o9b2o$27b 2o2b2o5b3o2b3o$o6bo7b2o2b2o6bo4bo5b2o4b2o$b2o2b2o7bo6bo5bo4bo$2b4o$15b o4bo20b2o$3b2o11bo2bo8b4o8bo2bo$3b2o12b2o10b2o!
I think zdr should choose, though, whenever s/he happens to come back online.
This is insane, by the way! I definitely agree that it looks like something out of Morley or another Life-like rule. Congrats, zdr, and hopefully we'll be able to use your method to find more ships like this one (does "there may be bugs in gfind" mean you developed your own search program/tweaked gfind or something?)
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
You were the one who discovered the equally tiny loafer. You'll definitely find something else if you put your mind to it.velcrorex wrote:Congrats on finding this. Who knows what other small ships may lurk on the edges of what we've searched. Perhaps we can keep better track of unsuccessful searches?
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
Congratulations, zdr, this is an utterly astounding discovery, well beyond "awesome" and straight into "HOLY SH*T" territory! Not just a new spaceship speed, but a remarkably small, almost elementary ship. It'll take a very strong contender to dethrone this as 2016's pattern of the year in my book.
Name-wise - I'm pretty partial to "copperhead" myself, but the choice is of course zdr's.
On the Life Wiki? Can't edit the Main Page proper, but I added a DYK item. It's both the least and the most I could do.muzik wrote:Can someone update the main page with this ship?
Name-wise - I'm pretty partial to "copperhead" myself, but the choice is of course zdr's.
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
This is incredible. Things don't work that way! It looks like a fake, but no, it's real, and that's incredible.
This is game of life, this is game of life!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
I based my assumption on the definition of the "standard form" given by http://pentadecathlon.com/objects/defin ... comparisonExtrementhusiast wrote:I'd actually say the third one, as that one has the smallest bounding box of those four (by area). (A 30-cell phase has the smallest bounding box of all phases.)
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As of the canon, the third looks quite like a snake head or something, so I wouldn't be against a name like so, but the first one can be seen as a man so happy he's slightly crying...
However, if one considers there are too many "animal" ships, how about "carrier"? It seems to pull a block similarly to the weekender pushing a loaf.
However, if one considers there are too many "animal" ships, how about "carrier"? It seems to pull a block similarly to the weekender pushing a loaf.
This is game of life, this is game of life!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
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Huh! Congrats!! This is incredible!
Edit: How long did it take to find the ship?
Edit: And zdr should name the ship (after others' suggestions)
Edit: How long did it take to find the ship?
Edit: And zdr should name the ship (after others' suggestions)
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The loafer pushes a loaf.towerator wrote:As of the canon, the third looks quite like a snake head or something, so I wouldn't be against a name like so, but the first one can be seen as a man so happy he's slightly crying...
However, if one considers there are too many "animal" ships, how about "carrier"? It seems to pull a block similarly to the weekender pushing a loaf.
Since we can't have blocker, I suggest something like blockdragger or blockpuller. Or blockalong?
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I just ran this search in gfind and it refound the ship in a little over an hour. It's really amazing this wasn't found sooner.Scorbie wrote:Edit: How long did it take to find the ship?
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Re: is this c/10 spaceship known?
The history of GoL will remember that sometimes, discoveries are right around the corner, provided one tries them.velcrorex wrote:I just ran this search in gfind and it refound the ship in a little over an hour. It's really amazing this wasn't found sooner.Scorbie wrote:Edit: How long did it take to find the ship?
This is game of life, this is game of life!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
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Also, here's a small useless reaction: a block eats the ship, but not entirely, leaving 2 blocks, including the carried one. It means a stream of ships "crystallize" very easily.
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x = 8, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o12$b2o2b2o$3b2o$3b2o$obo2bobo$o6bo2$o6bo$b2o2b2o$2b4o2$3b2o$
3b2o!
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Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
Loafin' ships eaten with a knife!
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By the main page I mean the Home page.Apple Bottom wrote:Congratulations, zdr, this is an utterly astounding discovery, well beyond "awesome" and straight into "HOLY SH*T" territory! Not just a new spaceship speed, but a remarkably small, almost elementary ship. It'll take a very strong contender to dethrone this as 2016's pattern of the year in my book.
On the Life Wiki? Can't edit the Main Page proper, but I added a DYK item. It's both the least and the most I could do.muzik wrote:Can someone update the main page with this ship?
Name-wise - I'm pretty partial to "copperhead" myself, but the choice is of course zdr's.
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Stupid question: how does one run gfind? Or wls for that matter?velcrorex wrote:I just ran this search in gfind and it refound the ship in a little over an hour. It's really amazing this wasn't found sooner.Scorbie wrote:Edit: How long did it take to find the ship?
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