Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

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Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by codeholic » February 11th, 2015, 2:18 am

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B36/S23
bo13bo$2bo11bo$o2bo9bo2bo$obo11bobo$o15bo2$2b2o9b2o$2bobo7bobo$3bo9bo!
I guess, it's new and constructible.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Sphenocorona » February 11th, 2015, 3:29 am

Woah, that's awesome! It has a very strong forward spark, so it can be used to make growing ships.

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by velcrorex » February 11th, 2015, 6:31 pm

Very cool. Did you find this with gsearch?
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by codeholic » February 11th, 2015, 6:36 pm

Yep.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Kazyan » February 11th, 2015, 9:10 pm

What in the what.

I bet this could be used to make a sawtooth with a very small expansion factor.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Scorbie » February 22nd, 2015, 9:16 am

Some (not-so-likely) sawtooth candidate:

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x = 68, y = 121, rule = B36/S23
30bo13bo$31bo11bo$29bo2bo9bo2bo$29bobo11bobo$29bo15bo2$31b2o9b2o$31bob
o7bobo$32bo9bo45$34b3o$33bo2bo$36bo$36bo$33bobo$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o
4$20b3o11b3o$20bobo10bo2bo$19bo3bo12bo$20bobo13bo$21bo11bobo3$8b2o42bo
$7b4o39b3o$6bo3b2o9bo27bo$7b4o11b2o25b2o$2b2o4b2o11b2o$bobo30b3o$bo31b
o2bo$2o34bo10bo$27bo8bo9b3o$28b2o3bobo10bobo$27b2o17b3o2$20bo17b3o$19b
3o16bo$19bobo17bo$20bo45b2o$31b2o33bo$32b2o30bobo$31bo12b3o10bo2bo3b2o
$17b2o25bo11bo3bo$18bo26bo10bo2bobo$15b3o38bo3bo$5b2o8bo9b2o30bo2bo$6b
o19b2o$6bobo16bo$7b2o7bo2bo26bo$15bo3bo9bo15b3o$15bo2bobo6b2obo13b2ob
2o$15bo3bo7bo3bo12b2ob2o$16bo2bo7b2obo14bobo$29bo8b2o6bo$38bobo$40bo$
20b3o17b2o6b2o$20bobo25bo$20b3o26b3o$51bo$20b3o$20b3o$21bo6$23b2o$23bo
$24b3o$26bo!
And an interesting pattern (not a sawtooth):

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x = 68, y = 97, rule = B36/S23
13bo13bo$14bo11bo$12bo2bo9bo2bo$12bobo11bobo$12bo15bo2$14b2o9b2o$14bob
o7bobo$15bo9bo20$35bo$34b3o$34bob2o$35b3o$35b2o2$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o
3$21bo13bo$20bobo11b3o$19b2ob2o10bob2o$19b2ob2o11b3o$20b3o12b2o$21bo3$
7bo2bo41bo$7bo3bo38b3o$6bobo2bo10bo26bo$7bo3bo11bo25b2o$2b2o3bo2bo10b
3o11bo$bobo30b3o$bo32bob2o$2o33b3o8b3o$28bo6b2o9bobo$29bo15bo3bo$27b3o
16bobo$39bo7bo$19b3o16b2o$19bobo16bobo$19b3o$20bo45b2o$31b3o32bo$33bo
11bo18bobo$32bo11b2o18b2o$17b2o25bobo9b2ob3o$18bo36b3obobo$15b3o38b2ob
3o$5b2o8bo9b3o$6bo20bo$6bobo17bo$7b2o36b3o$15b2ob3o7b2o14bo3bo$14b3obo
bo6b4o$15b2ob3o5bo3b2o14bo$27b4o13b2ob2o$28b2o8b2o6bo$38bobo$21bo18bo$
20bobo17b2o6b2o$19bo3bo24bo$20bobo26b3o$21bo29bo$20bobo2$20b3o6$23b2o$
23bo$24b3o$26bo!
This may yield a tethered rake:

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x = 17, y = 54, rule = B36/S23
bo13bo$2bo11bo$o2bo9bo2bo$obo11bobo$o15bo2$2b2o9b2o$2bobo7bobo$3bo9bo
41$5bo$4b3o$4bob2o$5b3o$5b2o!
Does this count? I hope this is not mistaken as a slide gun.

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x = 68, y = 101, rule = B36/S23
27bo9bo$26b4o5b4o$26bo11bo$22bo3b3obo3bob3o3bo$22bo2bo2b3o3b3o2bo2bo$
22bo6b2o3b2o6bo$27bob2o3b2obo$26bob2o5b2obo2$26b3o7b3o6$19b3o$19bobo2$
17bo5bo$16b2o5b2o2$17b3ob3o$15b2obo3bob2o$15b3o5b3o$15bobo5bobo13b2o4b
o$17bo5bo22bo$33bo5b2o3b3o$13b2o11b2o5b2o4b2o$13b2o11b2o4bobo4b2o$32bo
$34bo$32bo$33b4o$35b2o2$34bo2bo$35bobo2$26bo$24b3o$23bo$23b2o3$21bo12b
3o$19b2ob2o10bo2bo$21bo12bo$34bo$19bo3bo11bobo$20b3o3$52bo$6b3ob2o38b
3o$6bobob3o36bo$6b3ob2o9bobo25b2o$2b2o18b2o10b3o$bobo18bo11bo2bo$bo32b
o12bo$2o32bo11bobo$35bobo7b2ob2o$27bobo15b2ob2o$28b2o16b3o$20bo7bo9b2o
7bo$19bobo16bobo$18bo3bo15bo$19bobo$19b3o10bo33b2o$32b2o32bo$31bobo10b
2o18bobo$44bobo13bo3b2o$17b2o25bo10bobobobo$18bo36bo2bo3bo$15b3o8bo28b
obobobo$5b2o8bo10b2o32bo$6bo18bobo$6bobo37bo$7b2o10bo25b3o$14bobobobo
6bo2bo14b3o$14bo2bo3bo5bo3bo$14bobobobo5bobo2bo13b3o$19bo7bo3bo13bobo$
27bo2bo7b2o5b3o$38bobo$21bo18bo$20b3o17b2o6b2o$19b2ob2o24bo$20b3o26b3o
$20bobo28bo$21bo$20bobo$21bo$21bo5$23b2o$23bo$24b3o$26bo!
There's a simpler helix in highlife:

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x = 33, y = 154, rule = B36/S23
8$13b2o$13b2o4$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo
$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bob
o8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b
3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14b
o2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$
14bo$14bo$15bobo8$14b3o$14bo2bo$14bo$14bo$15bobo!

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Extrementhusiast » February 28th, 2015, 4:59 pm

Ten-glider synthesis of it:

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x = 94, y = 17, rule = B36/S23
35bo7bobo$36b2o5b2o$35b2o7bo33bo13bo$79bo11bo$77bo2bo9bo2bo$58b2o17bob
o11bobo$49b2o6b2o18bo15bo$48bobo8bo$20b2o17b2o9bo28b2o9b2o$b2o16bo2bo
16bobo37bobo7bobo$obo17b2o18bo39bo9bo$2bo13b3o34b2o$4b2o12bo34bobo$4bo
bo10bo35bo$4bo41b2o9b2o$45bobo9bobo$47bo9bo!
Also, due to the sparky nature of the ship, it has a strange list of compatible gun periods:

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1728-1734, 1815, 1818, 1822-1835, 1889-1944, 1946-1950, 1954, 1969-1974, 1977, 1978, 1982-2061, 2063+
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Kiran » March 9th, 2015, 11:06 pm

There's a simpler helix in highlife:
What is the difference between a helix and a tractor arm?
If a helix is one that needs a continuous stream of spaceships then this is not a helix.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Scorbie » March 9th, 2015, 11:59 pm

Kiran wrote:
There's a simpler helix in highlife:
What is the difference between a helix and a tractor arm?
If a helix is one that needs a continuous stream of spaceships then this is not a helix.
I am sorry. I meant tractor beam. Not too bright in these terminologies.

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by codeholic » March 10th, 2015, 4:58 am

I think there is not so much difference besides functional application. Tractor beam is just a helix burning backwards, towards the source.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by velcrorex » March 11th, 2015, 2:39 pm

Found your c/98 ship in a symmetric soup.

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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B36/S23
bobbbbboooobobbo$
obooobbboobobooo$
obbbbbooobbbbbbo$
bbooobbooooobbob$
oooooooboobbbobo$
oboooooobbbobbbb$
ooooobbobbboobbo$
bobbbobooobbobbb$
obbooobbbobboboo$
obbbobobobboobbb$
oooooobobbbbobob$
oobbbobobbbobboo$
oooooobobbbbbboo$
obooobbboobbobbb$
bbobbboobooobobb$
bobobbobooobbobb$
bbobbboobooobobb$
obooobbboobbobbb$
oooooobobbbbbboo$
oobbbobobbbobboo$
oooooobobbbbobob$
obbbobobobboobbb$
obbooobbbobboboo$
bobbbobooobbobbb$
ooooobbobbboobbo$
oboooooobbbobbbb$
oooooooboobbbobo$
bbooobbooooobbob$
obbbbbooobbbbbbo$
obooobbboobobooo$
bobbbbboooobobbo!
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Scorbie » March 11th, 2015, 6:18 pm

Wow.

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by AbhpzTa » June 13th, 2016, 8:25 am

p1728 c/98 spaceship gun:

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x = 583, y = 546, rule = B36/S23
162b2o$162b2o34b2o183b2o$199bo183bo$199bobo179bobo$200b2o179b2o3$201bo
179bo$201bo179bo5$211bo159bo$210b3o157b3o$102b2o105b2obo157bob2o$101bo
2bo103b2o163b2o$101bobobo103b2o161b2o$102bo2bo295b2o$106bo294b2o$103bo
bo4bo18bo87b2o145b2o$108b3o18b2o86bo147bo$107bo19b2ob2o86b3o141b3o$
101bo5b2o18bo4bo50b2o35bo141bo35b2o$100b3o22b2o6bo48bo2bo211bo2bo$99b
2ob2o22b2o5b2o47bobo2bo207bo2bobo$100b2ob2o22bo6b2o47bo215bo$90b2o9b2o
b2o22bo4bo50b2obo207bob2o57b2o$89bo2bo9b3o16bo7b2ob2o52bo4bo199bo4bo
60bo$89bobo2bo8bo17b2o7b2o57b3o199b3o63bobo$90bo28b2ob2o7bo56bo205bo
63b2o$91b2obo24bo4bo63b2o203b2o$93bo23b2o6bo$96b2o20b2o5b2o$95bobo21bo
6b2o52bo221bo$95bo24bo4bo45b2o6b3o219b3o6b2o$94b2o25b2ob2o44bo2bo5bob
2o217b2obo5bo2bo56bo$122b2o46bobobo7b2o215b2o7bobobo55b2o$123bo47bo2bo
6b2o217b2o6bo2bo55b2ob2o$175bo231bo58bo4bo$172bobo233bobo54bo6b2o$105b
2o70b2o225b2o58b2o5b2o$105b2o69bobo225bobo32bo23b2o6bo$176bo7b2o220bo
31b2o25bo4bo$175b2o6bo2bo219b2o29b2ob2o23b2ob2o$183bobobo248bo4bo25b2o
$184bo2bo247bo6b2o23bo7b2o$188bo245b2o5b2o32bo$185bobo4bo240b2o6bo34b
3o$190b3o242bo4bo37bo$189bo245b2ob2o$183bo5b2o246b2o$182b3o252bo$181b
2ob2o$182b2ob2o$89b2o81b2o9b2ob2o304b2o$90bo80bo2bo9b3o305bo$90bobo78b
obo2bo8bo304bobo$91b2o79bo317b2o$173b2obo281b2o$87b3o85bo282b2o33b3o$
85bob3o6bo2b2o77b2o302b2o2bo6b3obo$84bobobo7bo4bo18b2o12b2o41bobo17b2o
248b2o32bo4bo7bobobo$84bo2bo8bo4bo19bo12bobo40bo20bo212b2o33bobo32bo4b
o8bo2bo$85b2o6b5o23bobo10bo41b2o20bobo209bo2bo34bo36b5o6b2o$96bobo23b
2o75b2o69b2o39b2o96bobobo70bobo$97b3o92b2o76bo41bo96bo2bo70b3o$93bo4bo
2bobo88bobo10b2o61bobo41bobo93bo70bobo2bo4bo$93bo4bo4bo88bo11bo63b2o
43b2o89bo4bobo67bo4bo4bo$94bo7bo101b2ob2o63b2o35b2o93b3o73bo7bo$103b3o
97b2o2b2o63b3o33b3o96bo69b3o$99b2o4bo95b3o6bo61b2obo31bob2o95bo8b2o60b
o4b2o$98b3o30bo68bobo5bobo50b3o10bobo29bobo10b3o85bo74b3o$97bob2o29b2o
68bo6b3o50bo3bo8bo2bo29bo2bo8bo3bo87bo39b2o30b2obo$62bo33bobo30bobo70b
2o2b2o52bo4bo8b2o31b2o8bo4bo87bobo2bo34bo33bobo$61bo34bo2bo28b3o71b2ob
2o53bo2bo2bo49bo2bo2bo92bo7b2o23bobo32bo2bo$61b3o33b2o107bo54bo4bo49bo
4bo93bo6bo2bo22b2o34b2o$134b3o67b2o56bo3bo49bo3bo87bo3b3o5bo2bobo$133b
obo121b2o4b3o51b3o4b2o76b2o5bo14bo$133b2o123bo65bo77bo17bob2o$133bo
121b3o67b3o72bobo18bo$139b2o75b2o37bo71bo72b2o15b2o80b2o$139bo76bo42b
3o59b3o93bobo19b3o56bo2bo$140b3o74b3o39b3obo55bob3o95bo18bo3bo55bobobo
$142bo76bo40bobobo53bobobo71bo4bo19b2o17bo4bo55bob3o$261bo2bo53bo2bo
72bo5b2o36bo2bo2bo56b3o$262b2o55b2o114b3obo4bo62bo$256b2o67b2o64b2o41b
o3bobo3bo60b3o$255bo2bo65bo2bo106bo4bob3o60bo$254bobobo65bobobo69b2o
34bo2bo2bo63b2o$254bo2bo67bo2bo106bo4bo57bo$253bo75bo59b3o4bo39bo3bo
57b2o13b2o$228b2o19bo4bobo69bobo4bo19b2o35bobo3bo34b2o4b3o58bobo11bo2b
o$228b2o19b3o79b3o19b2o36b2o39bo54b2o10b3o9bobobo$252bo77bo61bo31bo4b
3o54bo2bo20b3obo$251b2o5bo65bo5b2o93bo3bo56bobo7b2o12b3o$23b2o232b3o
63b3o97b3o61bob2o15bo$24bo231b2ob2o61b2ob2o56b2o103b3o15b3o$24bobo183b
o44b2ob2o63b2ob2o44bo11bo104b2o18bo$25b2o73b2o109bo42b2ob2o9b2o43b2o9b
2ob2o42bo9b3o109b2o13b2o$22bo77bo107b3o44b3o9bo2bo41bo2bo9b3o44b3o6bo
110bobo$20b2obo8bo65bobo106b4o45bo8bo2bobo41bobo2bo8bo45b4o116bo23b3o$
19bo11b2o65b2o107bo3bo2bo54bo43bo54bo2bo3bo115b2o22bo3bo$18bobo2bo6b2o
b2o177b2obo49bob2o45b2obo49bob2o143bo4bo5b2o$18bo2bo7bo4bo169b2o6b2o
52bo49bo52b2o6b2o116bobo15bo2bo2bo4bo2bo$19b2o7bo6b2o166b2o7b2o48b2o
55b2o48b2o7b2o115b2o16bo4bo6bobo$27b2o5b2o167b2o6b2o49bobo53bobo49b2o
6b2o116bo16bo3bo5b2obo$26b2o6bo166bob2o59bo53bo59b2obo132b3o6b3o$28bo
4bo168bo2bo3bo54b2o51b2o54bo3bo2bo142b2o$28b2ob2o3b2o52b2o103b2o9b4o
163b4o9b2o131b2o$30b2o4bo52b2o104b2o9b3o165b3o9b2o131bobo$30bo6b3o50b
2obo111bo36b3o93b3o36bo143bo$32bobo4bo51b3o112bo37bo93bo37bo144b2o$35b
o50bo5bo150bo95bo169b2o$31bo2bo50b3o421bo$30bobobo50bob2o418bobo$30bo
2bo54b2o344b2o71b2o$31b2o54b2o59b2o48bo3b2o175b2o3bo50bo75b2o$81b2o65b
o47b2o4b2o175b2o4b2o48bobo64b3o6b3o$82bo63bobo49b2o183b2o51b2o63bo3bo
5b2obo$79b3o64b2o49bo187bo115bo4bo6bobo$79bo421bo2bo2bo4bo2bo$502bo4bo
5b2o$503bo3bo$504b3o$219bo143bo$120bo15bo80bobo143bobo130b2o$119bo16b
2o51bo28b2o143b2o28bo53bo49bo$106b2o11b3o12b2ob2o50b3o41b2o113b2o41b3o
52b3o45b3o$107bo26bo4bo52bo40bo115bo40bo54b2ob2o44bo$107bobo22b2o6bo
50b2o38bobo115bobo38b2o52b2ob2o49b3o$108b2o23b2o5b2o57b3o29b2o117b2o
29b3o59b2ob2o50b3obo$103bobo28bo6b2o55bo36bo111bo36bo59b3o52bobobo$
106bo28bo4bo56bo3bobo21bo8bob2o107b2obo8bo21bobo3bo59bo54bo2bo$102bo2b
o6b2o22b2ob2o55bo6bo21b2o11bo105bo11b2o21bo6bo114b2o$85bo15bobobo7b2o
22b2o56bo7bo19b2ob2o6bo2bobo103bobo2bo6b2ob2o19bo7bo65b2o$85b3o13bo2bo
5bob2o15b2o7bo56bo6bo20bo4bo7bo2bo103bo2bo7bo4bo20bo6bo65bo$88bo13b2o
6b3o17bo64bobo3bo19b2o6bo7b2o105b2o7bo6b2o19bo3bobo66b3o$87b2o22bo15b
3o70bo21b2o5b2o121b2o5b2o21bo73bo41b2o$127bo69b3o7b3o13bo6b2o119b2o6bo
13b3o7b3o113bo$206bo17bo4bo123bo4bo17bo122bobo$205bo3bobo8b2o3b2ob2o
123b2ob2o3b2o8bobo3bo122b2o$204bo6bo9bo4b2o127b2o4bo9bo6bo$102bo100bo
7bo6b3o6bo127bo6b3o6bo7bo126bo$97b3o3bo99bo6bo7bo4bobo131bobo4bo7bo6bo
125bo2bo$96bo106bobo3bo12bo137bo12bo3bobo126b4o$96bo28bo82bo14bo2bo
129bo2bo14bo131b5o$96bo2bo2bo21b3o78b3o15bobobo127bobobo15b3o124bo2bo
2b2o$102bo20b2obo97bo2bo127bo2bo142bob2o3b2obo$102bo19b2o101b2o129b2o
145b2o2bo2bo$95bo3b3o21b2o3b2o372b5o$96bo32b2o372b4o$126bob2o374bo2bo$
126b3o30bo263bo82bo$104b2o21bo31b3o259b3o$104bobo55bo16b3o219b3o16bo
75b2o$106bo54b2o16b3obo215bob3o16b2o73bobo$106b2o72bobobo213bobobo94bo
19b2o$181bo2bo175b2o36bo2bo115bo$182b2o31b2o143bo5b2o31b2o99b2o16b3o$
215b2o141bobo5b2o132bo19bo$172bo185b2o50bo87bobo$141bo29b2o237b2o86b2o
$140b3o27bobo237bobo89bobo$139b2obo26b3o178bo60b3o87bo$138b2o209bo3b3o
146bo2bo$77b2o60b2o34b3o178bo48b3o94bobobo$77bo96bobo179bo49bobo94bo2b
o$75bobo96b2o174bo2bo2bo50b2o95b2o$75b2o97bo175bo57bo87bobo$350bo145bo
2bo16b2o$351b3o3bo138bobo17bo$178b2o176bo46b2o109bobo$178bobo221bobo
109b2o$180bo221bo115bo$180b2o219b2o105bo8bob2o$508b2o11bo$65bo275b2o
163b2ob2o6bo2bobo$64b3o275bo163bo4bo7bo2bo$63b2ob2o271b3o162b2o6bo7b2o
$64b2ob2o270bo165b2o5b2o$65b2ob2o436bo6b2o$66b3o438bo4bo$67bo93b2o340b
2o3b2ob2o$161bo342bo4b2o$58b2o102b3o336b3o6bo$59bo99bo4bo336bo4bobo$
56b3o98b2obo344bo$56bo99bo349bo2bo$155bobo2bo101b2o242bobobo$155bo2bo
102bo2bo242bo2bo$44b2o110b2o101bo2bobo203bo39b2o$45bo217bo203b3o$45bob
o211bob2o204bob2o$46b2o207bo4bo209b2o$50b3o202b3o206b2o3b2o$42b3o4bo
208bo204b2o$40bob3o3bo3bobo202b2o6bo198b2obo$39bobobo3bo6bo209bo2bo
197b3o$39bo2bo3bo7bo210b4o191bo5bo$40b2o4bo6bo211b5o189b3o$46bobo3bo
208bo2bo2b3o4b2o183bob2o$51bo208bob2o3b2o4bo2bo185b2o$48b3o211b2o2bo2b
o2bobobo184b2o$57b2o202b5o6bo2bo$57bo204b4o5bo$58b3o202bo2b2o4bobo$54b
2o4bo204bob3o$53b3o212bobo$52bob2o214bo104bo$51bobo108b2o106b2o103b3o$
51bo2bo107bo215bo$52b2o106bobo52b2o160b2o$160b2o52bo2bo$164bobo46bobob
o227b2o$155bo7bo49bo2bo229bo$153bo2bo7bo2bo44bo230b3o$152b4o8bobobo34b
2o3bo4bobo173b3o51bo4bo$151b5o9bo2bo34bo4b3o177bo58bob2o$152b2o2bo2bo
6b2o33bobo7bo175bo3bobo57bo$150bob2o3b2obo40b2o7b2o174bo6bo53bo2bobo$
151bo2bo2b2o62bo163bo7bo55bo2bo$150b2o3b5o56b3o2bo163bo6bo57b2o$149b2o
4b4o56bo169bobo3bo$150bo3bob2o57bo11b2o161bo$147b3o65bo2bo7bo2bo157b3o
$147bo4bo39b3o29bo2bobo$151bob2o36bo3bo22b2o8bo$155bo35bo4bo17bo9bob2o
166b2o$151bo2bobo34bo2bo2bo17bo9bo168bobo$153bo2bo31b3obo4bo22bobo173b
o$154b2o31bo3bobo3bo23bobo172b2o$187bo4bob3o26bo$187bo2bo2bo29b2o$188b
o4bo$189bo3bo$190b3o2$186b2o$185bobo$185bo7b2o$184b2o7bo$191bobo$191b
2o2$186b3o$185bo3bo$185bo4bo$185bo2bo2bo$182b3obo4bo$181bo3bobo3bo$
181bo4bob3o$181bo2bo2bo312b2o$182bo4bo313bo$183bo3bo313bobo$184b3o315b
2o4$137b2o35b2o$137bo37bo$135bobo34b3o$135b2o35bo337b3o$139b2o368bo2bo
$139b3o366bo3bo$131bo7b2obo365bo2bo$131b2o8bobo364b3o3b3o$131bobo6bo2b
o369bo2bo$132b3o6b2o369bo3bo$129bo382bo2bo$129bo382b3o$519b2o$124b2o
142b2o249bo$125bo142bo251b3o$122b3o141bobo253bo$122bo143b2o$126b3o42b
2o97bobo$126b3obo39bo2bo95bo$127bobobo38bobo2bo86b2o6bo2bo$128bo2bo39b
o89b2o7bobobo$129b2o41b2obo86b2obo5bo2bo$174bo4bo83b3o6b2o$177b3o84bo$
170bobo3bo192bo$169b3o4b2o191b3o$168b4o3b2o78b2o115bo$168bo3bo2bo80bo
114b2o$173b2obo76b3o$164bo8b2o78bo4bo$173b2o82bob2o$172b2o87bo$257bo2b
obo118b2o$160bo98bo2bo119b2o$260b2o117bob2o$170bo208b3o$323b2o55bo5bo$
156bo152b3o11b2o60b3o$312bo71b2obo$166bo140bobo3bo69b2o$307bo6bo69b2o$
152bo154bo7bo$308bo6bo217b2o$162bo146bo3bobo72b2o143b2o$310bo77bobo$
148bo162b3o76bo$390b2o$158bo2$145b2o$144b2o$144b2o8bo$142bob2o$143bo2b
o3bo142b3o$147b4o145bo$139bo7b3o141bobo3bo$137bo2bo5bo99b2o43bo6bo223b
2o$136b4o7bo97bo2bo42bo7bo224bo$135b5o103bo2bobo43bo6bo168b2o51bob2o$
136b2o2bo2bo103bo45bo3bobo169bo49b3o2b2o$134bob2o3b2obo98bob2o47bo174b
obo53b3o$51b2o82bo2bo2b2o96bo4bo50b3o172b2o45bo8bobo47b2o$52bo86b5o95b
3o275bo10bo47bo$52bobo84b4o99bo5bo267b2o3bo3b2o47bobo$53b2o83bo2bo99b
2o4b3o224b2o38bo10bo48b2o$139bo106b3obo224b2o37bobo8bo52bobo$49b3o193b
2o2b3o220bob2o39b3o59bo$47bob3o6bo2b2o181b2o3b2o221b3o42b2o2b3o54bo2bo
$46bobobo7bo4bo179b3o2b2o8b2o213bo5bo38b2obo56bobobo$46bo2bo8bo4bo180b
ob3o8bo2bo217b3o37bo49bo10bo2bo$47b2o6b5o185b3o8bobobo216b2obo38b2o46b
3o10b2o$58bobo56b2o81b2o44bo9bo2bo216b2o89bob2o$59b3o54bo2bo80b2o31b2o
20bo221b2o91b2o$55bo4bo2bobo50bobobo111bo2bo20bobo310b2o$14b2o39bo4bo
4bo51bo2bo111bobo2bo14b2o309b2o$15bo40bo7bo56bo111bo18bobo309bo$15bobo
47b3o50bobo113b2obo16bo306b3o$16bobo42b2o4bo55b2o111bo17b2o10b2o219b2o
72bo4bo$13bo9bo36b3o59bobo141b2o219bo77bob2o$11b2obo9bo34bob2o59bo365b
3o78bo$10bo8b2o37bobo60b2o324b2o41bo74bo2bobo$9bobo2bo43bo2bo144bo240b
o119bo2bo$9bo2bo7bo2bo35b2o129b2o13b3o237bobo120b2o$10b2o11bo22bo142bo
2bo11b2ob2o236b2o$23bo22b3o140bobobo9b2ob2o241b2o$17bo2b3o26bo140bob3o
7b2ob2o232b2o8b3o$17bo30b2o142b3o8b3o235bo7b2obo$27b2o169bo5bo232b2ob
2o9bobo$27bo168b3o238b2o2b2o7bo2bo$28b3o55bobo106bo239bo6b3o6b2o$23bob
o4bo29bo26b2o99b3o4b2o238bobo5bobo$26bo32bo2bo24bo99bo3bo244b3o6bo$22b
o2bo34b4o123bo4bo97bo147b2o2b2o39bo$21bobobo34b5o122bo2bo2bo95b2o143b
2o3b2ob2o39bobo$21bo2bo9b2o20bo2bo2b2o114b2o8bo4bo95bobo143bo3bo43b2o$
22b2o10bo20bob2o3b2obo111bo2bo8bo3bo238b3o6bo$32bobo22b2o2bo2bo112bobo
10b3o239bo91bo$32b2o22b5o117bob2o254b3o83b3o$36bo20b4o118b3o254b3obo
80bo$28bo6bob2o19bo2bo118b2o255bobobo50b2o27b2o$27b3o9bo20bo123b2o5bob
o244bo2bo50b2o$26b2ob2o4bo2bobo142bobo5b2o31b2o213b2o$27b2ob2o5bo2bo
24b2o116bo8bo31bo288bo$17b2o9b2ob2o5b2o25bobo114b2o41b3o285b2o$16bo2bo
9b3o35bo159bo281bo3bobo$16bobo2bo8bo36b2o332b2o106bo4b3o$17bo383b2o$
18b2obo484b2o$20bo$23b2o488b2o$22bobo$22bo195bo285b2o5bo$21b2o195bobo
285bo4bo$213b2o2bobo185bo$213b2o4bo184b3o$213b2o188b2ob2o96b2o$212b3o
187b2ob2o96bobo$5b2o208bo185b2ob2o3bo93bo$6bo203bobo3bo185b3o3b3o91b2o
$6bobo208bo185bo3b2ob2o$7b2o199bobo7bo176b2o9b2ob2o$4bo206bo6b4o172bo
2bo7b2ob2o$2b2obo200bobo3bo3bob4o172bobobo7b3o$bo14bo134b2o60bo53b2o
126bob3o7bo$obo2bo5b3o3bo134bo14bobo34bobo7bobo50bobo127b3o$o2bo6bo
141bobo12b2o38bo59bo135bo$b2o7bo80b2o60b2o13bo33bobo3bo3bobo179bo6b3o$
10bo2bobo75bo57b2o58bo186bo3bo$15bo73bobo56b3o49bobo7bobo179b2ob2o3b2o
99bo$18bo70b2o56bob2o52bo188b2o2b2o102bo$9b2o8bo73bobo50bobo7b2o40bobo
3bo3bobo179bo6b3o100b3o$18bo65bo7bo48b2o3bo2bo48bo6bo184bobo5bobo28bo$
19b3o60bo2bo7bo2bo44bo5b2o10b3o36bo7bobo174b2o6b3o6bo28b3o$14bobo4bo
59b4o8bobobo41bobo16bobo38bo182bo2bo7b2o2b2o33bo$17bo62b5o9bo2bo41b2o
17b2o40bo3bobo175bobo9b2ob2o19b3o10b2o7bo$13bo2bo64b2o2bo2bo6b2o37b3o
21bo42bo181bob2o7bo25bo4b2o12b2o$12bobobo62bob2o3b2obo47bo4b3o19b2o36b
3o179b3o8b2o22bo5bo12b2ob2o$12bo2bo64bo2bo2b2o44bobo3bo3b3obo17bo220b
2o39b3o8bo4bo$13b2o64b2o3b5o43bo6bo3bobobo17b3o221b2o37bo7bo6b2o$78b2o
4b4o44bo7bo3bo2bo19bo220bobo44b2o5b2o$79bo3bob2o46bo6bo4b2o14b3o182b2o
40bo45b2o6bo$56b2o18b3o55bo3bobo18bob3o183bo39b2o47bo4bo$57bo18bo4bo
53bo22bobobo184bobo86b2ob2o$57bobo20bob2o52b3o19bo2bo186bobo87b2o$58b
3obo21bo43b2o29b2o277bo$53bobo4b2o2bo15bo2bobo43bo23b2o264bo$56bo5b4o
16bo2bo40b3o23bo2bo39b2o152bobo3b2o62bobo$52bo2bo6b5o16b2o41bo4b2o19bo
bo2bo37b2o152bo4bo59b2o2bobo$51bobobo2bo2bo2b2o65b3o19bo195bo8bo55b2o
4bo$51bo2bo4b2o3b2obo63b2obo19b2obo200bo$52b2o4b3o2bo2bo15b2o49bobo20b
o4bo189bo5bo90b2o$58b5o18bo2bo47bo2bo23b3o188bo97bobo$59b4o18bobo49b2o
23bo191bo8bo90bo$60bo2bo18bob2o30b2o40b2o194bo4bo90b2o$62bo6b2o12b3o
29bo2bo33b2o198b2o5bo54b2o47b2o$69bo14b2o4bo24bobo2bo30b2o165b2o36b3o
54b2o6b2o41bo$70b3o15b3o25bo35b2obo161bo2bo94bo5b2o41bobo$67bo4bo6bo7b
o29b2obo20b2o10b3o160bobobo144b2o$65b2obo9bo4bo4bo30bo4bo15bo2bo10bo
161bo2bo140bobo$64bo13bo4bo2bobo33b3o15bobobo170bo49b2o96bo$63bobo2bo
13b3o36bo19bo2bo166bo4bobo46bo93bo2bo6b2o$63bo2bo14bobo37b2o22bo165b3o
6bo45b3o73bo15bobobo7b2o$64b2o4b2o6b5o32b2o25bobo169bo4b2o47bo74b2o13b
o2bo5bob2o$69bo2bo8bo4bo27b2o31b2o164b2o3b2ob2o23b2o94b3o14b2o6b3o$69b
obobo7bo4bo28b2obo27bobo168bo4bo13bo9bo52b3o42b2o22bo$70bob3o6bo2b2o
18b2o10b3o27bo169bo6b2o9bobo7bobo55bo42bobo$72b3o28bo2bo10bo27b2o168b
2o5b2o11b2o6bobo51bobo3bo41b2o$103bobobo206b2o6bo7b2o6bo9bo48bo6bo71b
2o$76b2o26bo2bo208bo4bo7bo2bo4bo9bob2o46bo7bo70bo$75bobo30bo207b2ob2o
6bo2bobo8b2o8bo46bo6bo71b3o$75bo29bobo210b2o11bo15bo2bobo46bo3bobo68bo
4bo16b2o11b2o$74b2o34b2o206bo8bob2o7bo2bo7bo2bo47bo71b2obo19b2o13bo$
109bobo174bo41bo9bo11b2o49b3o67bo25bo12bobo$82b2o25bo177b2o35b2o12bo
131bobo2bo35b2o$81bobo24b2o176b2o36bobo12b3o2bo125bo2bo$83bo81b2o159bo
17bo126b2o$165bo160b2o5b2o$163bobo168bo173bo11bo$100b2o61b2o166b3o173b
2o10b2o$99b2o230bo4bobo168bobo8b2ob2o$92bo8bo64b3o166bo60b2o119bo$78bo
11b3o63b3o7b3obo165bo2bo56b2o118bo5bobo$76bobo10bo69bo7bobobo140bo23bo
bobo174b2o$77b2o5b3o3bo63bobo3bo7bo2bo138b3o24bo2bo173b2o6bobobo$80b2o
7bo64bo6bo7b2o138bo28b2o176bo4bo4bo$82bo3bo67bo7bo146b2o195bo9bobobo6b
2o$78bo76bo6bo269b2o71b2o19b2o$78bo77bo3bobo77b2o189bo2bo70bobo10bobo
5bo$79bo5bo66b2o3bo82bo191bobo90bo$86bo66bo4b3o77bobo189b2obo86b2ob2o
3b2o$77bo8bo63b3o85b2o190b3o89b2o4bo$77bo4bo67bo4b2o139b3o126bo4b2o90b
o6b3o$77bo5b2o70b3o83b3o51bo3bo125b3o103bo$78b3o74b2obo71b2o2bo6b3obo
49bo4bo127bo$157bobo69bo4bo7bobobo48bo2bo2bo125b2o$156bo2bo69bo4bo8bo
2bo49bo4bo$157b2o74b5o6b2o51bo3bo$232bobo63b3o134b3o$231b3o200bo2bo6b
2o$72b2o153bobo2bo4bo195bo3bo5bo2bo$71bobo93b2o58bo4bo4bo195bo2bo5bobo
bo$71bo94bo2bo58bo7bo55b2o139b3o5b3obo100b2o$70b2o92bo2bobo55b3o63bobo
147b3o101bo2bo$117b2o49bo56bo4b2o59bo252bobobo$32b2o84bo45bob2o62b3o
57b2o146b2o103b3obo$31bo2bo83bobo39bo4bo64b2obo204bobo102b3o$31bobobo
83b2o39b3o69bobo205bo98bo$32bo2bo127bo67bo2bo205b2o97b3o$36bo78b3o44b
2o6bo25bo35b2o308bo$33bobo4bo72bob3o5b3o43bo2bo23b3o342b2o4b3o$38b3o
71bobobo5bo2bo44b4o25bo3bo342bo3bo$37bo74bo2bo5bo3bo44b5o23bo4bo3bo
291b2o44bo4bo$31bo5b2o74b2o6bo2bo41bo2bo2b3o4b2o17bobo2bo3bo291b2o43bo
2bo2bo$30b3o88b3o41bob2o3b2o4bo2bo20b4obo336bo4bo8b2o$29b2ob2o133b2o2b
o2bo2bobobo21bo340bo3bo8bo2bo$30b2ob2o131b5o6bo2bo22bo5b3o333b3o10bobo
$20b2o9b2ob2o94b2o35b4o5bo379b2obo$19bo2bo9b3o95bo37bo2b2o4bobo21b3o5b
o346b3o$19bobo2bo8bo97b3o36bob3o34bo346b2o$20bo106b2o4bo39bobo29bob6o
266b3o70b2o$21b2obo101b3o46bo29bo3bo268bo3bo69bobo$23bo101bob2o46b2o
28bo3bo268bo4bo70bo$26b2o96bobo82bo268bo2bo2bo69b2o$25bobo96bo2bo232bo
114b3obo4bo67b2o$25bo91b2o6b2o233b3o111bo3bobo3bo68bo$24b2o92bo244bo
110bo4bob3o6b2o61bobo$118bobo241b2o2b2o106bo2bo2bo10bo62b2o$119b2o94b
2o258bo4bo10bobo$114bobo98bobo258bo3bo11b2o$117bo99bo259b3o$113bo2bo9b
o90b2o$112bobobo8b3o149bo$112bo2bo8b3obo148b3o285bo$43b2o68b2o8b2o2b3o
150bo94bo188b2o$44bo77b2o3b2o150b2o93b3o186b2ob2o$44bobo74b3o2b2o158bo
86b2obo124bo2b2o56bo4bo$45b2o75bob3o22b2o134b2o85b2o127bo4bo22b2o30bo
6b2o$42bo80b3o4b2o17bo134bobo86b2o126bo4bo22bo30b2o5b2o$40b2obo8bo71bo
5bo16bobo133b3o212b5o24bobo29b2o6bo$39bo11b2o78b3o13b2o352bobo23b2o32b
o4bo$38bobo2bo6b2ob2o73bo4bo17bobo135b3o210b5o24b2o28b2ob2o$38bo2bo7bo
4bo71b2obo20bo137bobo109b2o96bo4bo17b2o8b3o29b2o$39b2o7bo6b2o68bo15bo
9bo2bo133b2o89b2o19bo97bo4bo19bo7b2obo28bo7b2o$47b2o5b2o68bobo2bo10b3o
8bobobo132bo90bobo16bobo98b2o2bo15b2ob2o9bobo35bo$46b2o6bo69bo2bo11bob
3o8bo2bo225bo16b2o109b2o8b2o2b2o7bo2bo36b3o$48bo4bo71b2o11b3o2b2o8b2o
226b2o19b2o105bo7bo6b3o6b2o39bo$48b2ob2o3b2o81b2o3b2o168b2o86b3o105b3o
4bobo5bobo$50b2o4bo83b2o2b3o167bo87b2obo106bo5b3o6bo$50bo6b3o81b3obo
166bobo76b3o10bobo113b2o2b2o$52bobo4bo76b2o4b3o167b2o76bo3bo8bo2bo109b
2o3b2ob2o$55bo81bo5bo152b2o18bo73bo4bo8b2o111bo3bo$51bo2bo79b3o159bobo
16bob2o71bo2bo2bo117b3o6bo$50bobobo79bo4bo158bo20bo71bo4bo45b2o70bo$
50bo2bo84bob2o156b2o6bo8bo2bobo71bo3bo45b2o74b3o$51b2o89bo162b3o9bo2bo
66b2o4b3o122b3obo$138bo2bobo160b2ob2o9b2o68bo105b2o23bobobo$140bo2bo
161b2ob2o75b3o106bo25bo2bo$141b2o163b2ob2o74bo106bobo26b2o$307b3o79b3o
100b2o$301b2o5bo80b3obo102b2o$302bo87bobobo92b3o6b3o$299b3o89bo2bo91bo
3bo5b2obo$299bo4bobo85b2o92bo4bo6bobo$303bo182bo2bo2bo4bo2bo$304bo2bo
179bo4bo5b2o$304bobobo179bo3bo40b2o$305bo2bo180b3o41bo$306b2o223bobo$
481b2o48b2o$482bo52bo$479b3o52bob2o$479bo43bo14bo$483b3o36bo3b3o5bo2bo
bo$483b3obo41bo6bo2bo$484bobobo40bo7b2o$485bo2bo35bobo2bo$486b2o36bo$
521bo$520bo8b2o$521bo$518b3o$518bo4bobo$522bo$523bo2bo$523bobobo$524bo
2bo$525b2o!
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by muzik » June 13th, 2016, 8:33 am

AbhpzTa wrote:p1728 c/98 spaceship gun:

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massive rle
Nice work!



What I want to know, does this spaceship deserve a wiki article? It's not in the normal Life rule, but it is in a pretty notable similar rule

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Sokwe » June 13th, 2016, 5:27 pm

muzik wrote:What I want to know, does this spaceship deserve a wiki article? It's not in the normal Life rule, but it is in a pretty notable similar rule
In my personal opinion, only Life patterns should get pattern pages on the wiki. If you want to add this pattern to the wiki, it should be put on the HighLife page. Of course, we don't want to put too many patterns on one page, or it will get cluttered. It would be nice if someone would compile a collection of the most interesting patterns in HighLife. We could then link to the collection at the bottom of the HighLife page.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by muzik » June 14th, 2016, 2:15 pm

Sokwe wrote:
muzik wrote:What I want to know, does this spaceship deserve a wiki article? It's not in the normal Life rule, but it is in a pretty notable similar rule
In my personal opinion, only Life patterns should get pattern pages on the wiki. If you want to add this pattern to the wiki, it should be put on the HighLife page. Of course, we don't want to put too many patterns on one page, or it will get cluttered. It would be nice if someone would compile a collection of the most interesting patterns in HighLife. We could then link to the collection at the bottom of the HighLife page.
HighLife is an extremely well known CA, and one of the most well explored alongside Life. I wouldn't mind a few pages about notable HighLife patterns assuming they don't take over the whole wiki.

I mean, it's so thoroughly researched it's halfway to deserving its own forum.


If we're going to stick with there being no more HighLife pages, I could maybe slap a table of spaceships on the HighLife page to settle things.

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Sokwe » June 15th, 2016, 11:12 pm

If we start adding pattern pages for patterns in other rules, it becomes more difficult to sort out the Life content from the non-Life content. Since there is significantly more interest in Life than in other rules (even HighLife), I would rather the wiki remain a clear resource for Life patterns.

Also, it's hard to draw a line on the notability of patterns in other rules. You have to consider how notable the rule is (which is highly debatable) and how notable the pattern is within that rule. I would regard the c/98 ship as less notable than the Bomber, and I don't think the Bomber should get its own page. We still have a lot of notable Life patterns that don't have pages yet. Many of those should be added before we start considering patterns from other rules.

I think it would be much better if someone would compile a collection of most of the notable HighLife patterns. This collection could then be linked to from the HighLife page on the wiki. A page for the c/98 ship probably wouldn't have much more information than the HighLife pattern collection would.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by muzik » June 16th, 2016, 3:20 am

What about a "Spaceships in Highlife" page? This would only mean one page would be added, meaning a lot less clutter (and mean there wouldn't be too much overly specific sections about specific patterns on the HighLife page).

Also, the Moon from B2 rules has a page for some reason

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Apple Bottom » June 16th, 2016, 8:01 am

My two cents -- right now the wiki is serving two purposes. One, it's a general resource of information about cellular automata, especially Life-like cellular automata. And two, it's a pattern collection for Conway Life specifically.

There are no hard and fast rules, but unless and until we want to change this, I'd say we should not add articles for patterns that only exist outside of Conway Life. For example, I agree that an article on the bomber, notable as it may otherwise be, does not belong on the LifeWiki in its current form.

However, that doesn't mean we can't have information on these patterns at all. For example it would be perfectly fine to have an article on HighLife (in fact, we do), and have a section on the bomber in that article (in fact, we do). A "Spaceships in HighLife" page would be fine, as that page would clearly pertain to HighLife rather than life, and its contents would not get mixed with information on Life's patterns in the pattern category.

Adding "in other rules" sections to articles on Life patterns would also be fine, of course.

The moon, meanwhile -- well, we don't talk about the moon. Ixnay on the oonmay! ;) Jokes aside, it's an article that probably shouldn't exist in its current form but has sort of been grandfathered in. If it only appeared in a single (notable) rule I'd move it to a section of that one's article -- but it's in at least two important ones, Seeds and Live Free or Die, so I'm not sure how to proceed. For now I don't think it's important enough to really worry about, but I'll start a Tiki bar discussion on the wiki.
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by muzik » June 16th, 2016, 8:31 am

The thing is, moon is just a grin acting differently due to a different rule table. So it can be fused with that page.

HighLife, however, is a much more researched and well-known rule, and the c/98 ship doesn't act in a notable way in normal Life. Also, it isn't one of 2984838 constructed spaceships. I'd say it's notable enough to be on a HighLife spaceship list page at the very least. I'd be fine if there were a good few notable HighLife-exclusive patterns with their own pages, seeing how similar the rule is to Life...

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by drc » June 19th, 2016, 11:57 am

Also the duoplet is shown as a period 2 oscillator instead of a spark, which it is in B2/S, etc.

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by muzik » June 19th, 2016, 4:57 pm

drc wrote:Also the duoplet is shown as a period 2 oscillator instead of a spark, which it is in B2/S, etc.
and a still life like in B3/S12...

Also, the clock can be an oscillator in three different ways

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by codeholic » August 4th, 2017, 10:59 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:p1728 c/98 spaceship gun:
Excuse my slowpokeness (I don't read "Other Cellular Automata" that often), but it is a fine contraption indeed! My belated congratulations!

But what kind of coincidence that ought to be that the very minimal c/98 gun period is divisible by 48, which is also the HighLife replicator's period?!
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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by Saka » August 4th, 2017, 11:04 pm

codeholic wrote:
But what kind of coincidence that ought to be that the very minimal c/98 gun period is divisible by 48, which is also the HighLife replicator's period?!
Because the guns are made of replicators?

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Re: Natural c/98 HighLife spaceship

Post by codeholic » August 4th, 2017, 11:23 pm

Indeed, but it's the minimal possible gun period for a c/98 gun! What does the c/98 spaceship have to do with the replicator?!
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