The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
B3457/S4568 is known for it's terribly slow c/5648, the slowest orthogonal elementary ship known. But are there other ships out there? Who knows? I have done ntzfind from p2 to p10, w6 to w8, currently doing p10 w7.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
This is an outer-totalistic rule, so you can just use normal zfind. I hope that helps at the higher widths.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
These types of rules interest me. I'm currently trying to hunt for the slowest ship by using blob rules. Wish me luck.
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
I find it interestingly coincidental that the speed of the spaceship is an anagram of the survival conditions.
Here's hoping for a c/7543 or c/8654 ship.
Here's hoping for a c/7543 or c/8654 ship.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
I strongly suggest a c/7 diagonal bilateral symmetric search, since we have this (promising) partial:
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x = 74, y = 74, rule = B3457/S4568
4b4o$2bob4o$b4obob2o$2b8o$4o2bob4o$2obo2b6o$6ob3obobo$2obob2ob3ob2o$2b
6obob5o$2b7o3bo2bo$4b2obo2bob6o$4b3obo2bob2ob2o$7b4ob2ob5o$6b3ob10o$8b
ob2ob9o$8b3ob3ob6o$10b9o3bo$10b11o2b2o$12b13o$12b4ob4ob5o$14b2ob3ob6o$
14b2o2bob2ob5o$16bob3ob2ob2o2bo$17b6o3b4o$17b5o2bob2ob3o$19b4o3b4obo$
19b15o$21bob4ob2o3bo$23bob3obo3b3o$22b9ob4o$24bobo2b3ob5o$24b3o3bob2ob
3o$26bo2bob3ob5o$26b9obob2o$28b3o2bob7o$28b5ob2ob2ob2o$30b5o3b2ob3o$
30b3ob2o3b2ob2o$32b5o2bob5o$32b3ob7ob2o$34b2obob9o$34b3ob5o2bobo$36b7o
2b2ob2o$36b3obo6b3o$38b3o6b5o$38b5o4b2ob2o$40bobo4b4ob2o$40b2ob4obobob
2o$42b11ob2o$42b3obob8o$44b11ob2o$44b2o2b3obobo2bobo$46b6o2bo2b2o$46b
2ob2o2b2o2b5o$48b10o2b2o$48b2o4bobobo3b2o$50bo3b3obobob2o$50b5o2bobob
3obo$52b2ob2ob2o2bob2o$51bobo3b3o2bob4o$53b2obo3bob4obo$53b2o2bo3b2ob
2ob3o$55b9ob2ob2o$55b3o2bobo3bob4o$58b4o7b3o$57b6o3b6obo$59bo2b2obo2b
2obo$59b3o3bob2o$61b3ob3o$61b6o$63b3o$63b4o2$65bo!
Still drifting.
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
c/7 orthogonal also has promise,
EDIT:
And c/5 potential:
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x = 19, y = 124, rule = B3457/S4568
9bo2$7b2ob2o2$4b2o2b3o2b2o$4b4obob4o$3b3o2bobo2b3o$3bobo2bobo2bobo$b4o
2bo3bo2b4o$4b5ob5o$3obobo2bo2bobob3o$3b5obob5o$8obob8o$3bo2b7o2bo$5ob
7ob5o$b3obo3bo3bob3o$ob15obo$b17o$2o3b2ob3ob2o3b2o$5b3obob3o$3ob4obob
4ob3o$bob5obob5obo$6ob5ob6o$bo2bob3ob3obo2bo$5ob7ob5o$3bobo7bobo$5ob7o
b5o$b17o$2obobo3bo3bobob2o$b17o$3o5bobo5b3o$b4ob7ob4o$3ob4obob4ob3o$2b
o2b9o2bo$7ob3ob7o$b5obobobob5o$6obobobob6o$b2ob2ob5ob2ob2o$7ob3ob7o$bo
bob3o3b3obobo$obobo3bobo3bobobo$b3o2b3ob3o2b3o$3ob3ob3ob3ob3o$2b7ob7o$
9ob9o$bo4bobobobo4bo$3ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3o$3bob3o3b3obo$2obo4b3o4bob2o$b3o
2bob3obo2b3o$ob2ob9ob2obo$b3ob4ob4ob3o$o4b9o4bo$b4o3bobo3b4o$ob15obo$b
3o3bobobo3b3o$5ob2o3b2ob5o$bob13obo$4ob9ob4o$bo2b5ob5o2bo$3ob11ob3o$2b
obobo2bo2bobobo$6obobobob6o$b2ob4obob4ob2o$ob15obo$b4o2b5o2b4o$19o$bo
2bobo2bo2bobo2bo$4o2b7o2b4o$b17o$19o$b17o$2ob13ob2o$b7obob7o$7o2bo2b7o
$3o2b3obob3o2b3o$2b7ob7o$5ob3ob3ob5o$bob2ob3ob3ob2obo$3ob11ob3o$b7o3b
7o$o3bob7obo3bo$bo2b3ob3ob3o2bo$ob4ob5ob4obo$b7obob7o$ob3o3b3o3b3obo$b
o2b11o2bo$4obob5obob4o$bobob4ob4obobo$2ob2o2b5o2b2ob2o$bob13obo$3o5b3o
5b3o$b7obob7o$o2b13o2bo$b4obob3obob4o$5ob7ob5o$bo2b4obob4o2bo$2obob4ob
4obob2o$b4ob7ob4o$o4bob5obo4bo$b8ob8o$2obob9obob2o$b6ob3ob6o$2ob4ob3ob
4ob2o$b7obob7o$19o$2bo2bo2b3o2bo2bo$3o2bobobobobo2b3o$b3obob5obob3o$ob
o4bobobo4bobo$b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$b3ob3o3b3ob3o$b2o2b9o2b2o$4b3obobob3o
$ob3o2b5o2b3obo$b17o$6ob2ob2ob6o$2b4ob5ob4o$2ob3ob5ob3ob2o$bob6ob6obo$
19o$b2ob11ob2o$ob15obo$2b6o3b6o!
And c/5 potential:
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x = 117, y = 25, rule = B3457/S4568
12bobobo2bobobobobobobob2o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2obob
o29bob2o$12b5obob11obo2b3ob2obob2ob2o2b4ob6obobobob4obobob4obo2bobobob
obo2bobobo2bobobobo2b2o$bobobobobo2bob7o2bob4o2b3obob2ob5ob4ob2obo2b2o
bo2b6ob6ob4ob3ob6ob3ob3obob6ob2ob2obo$b4ob13ob4ob8ob4ob5ob4ob3o2b4ob5o
4b3o3b6o2b4o4b11obob8ob2o$6o2b11ob4obo4b2ob13obob3ob19ob3ob4obobo11b5o
b3obo2b3o2b2o$3ob2o2b11ob2ob13ob8obobob6ob6o2b5ob3o2b2ob4obo3b3o3b2o2b
6ob5ob5o$2b5o2bo2bobo2bobobob2ob3ob5ob3obob2ob3ob7obob3ob17ob5o3bob2ob
2o2bo2b4obo2b3ob3o$2b2o2b6ob2ob3ob2ob3ob9ob8ob2o3bobob5ob2o2b5o2b5ob4o
bo2b3ob5ob2ob2ob7ob6o$2bobob2ob4obob3obo2b2obob2ob2o2b5obob5obobobobob
3ob9o2b2ob4ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob3o2b8ob2o$4bo3b2o2b9o2b3ob3ob2ob3obobob4o
bobobobobob3o2bob3o2b4ob5obobob5ob8o2b7ob2o3b3o$6bobo2bobob6o2b4ob2obo
3b6obob6ob6o2b5obo2b2o3b2obobob2o2b7o2b3obo2b3ob4obobob3o$5b10ob6o4bob
11obo2b2o3b3ob2o2bo2bob8obob3obobobobob2ob9ob5o2bob4obob3o$5bobobob2ob
3ob4ob11o2b5ob4o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo2bob3ob8o2bobo2b6ob6obo2b5ob3o2b3obo$5b
10ob6o4bob11obo2b2o3b3ob2o2bo2bob8obob3obobobobob2ob9ob5o2bob4obob3o$
6bobo2bobob6o2b4ob2obo3b6obob6ob6o2b5obo2b2o3b2obobob2o2b7o2b3obo2b3ob
4obobob3o$4bo3b2o2b9o2b3ob3ob2ob3obobob4obobobobobob3o2bob3o2b4ob5obob
ob5ob8o2b7ob2o3b3o$2bobob2ob4obob3obo2b2obob2ob2o2b5obob5obobobobob3ob
9o2b2ob4ob2obo2b4o2b4o2bob3o2b8ob2o$2b2o2b6ob2ob3ob2ob3ob9ob8ob2o3bobo
b5ob2o2b5o2b5ob4obo2b3ob5ob2ob2ob7ob6o$2b5o2bo2bobo2bobobob2ob3ob5ob3o
bob2ob3ob7obob3ob17ob5o3bob2ob2o2bo2b4obo2b3ob3o$3ob2o2b11ob2ob13ob8ob
obob6ob6o2b5ob3o2b2ob4obo3b3o3b2o2b6ob5ob5o$6o2b11ob4obo4b2ob13obob3ob
19ob3ob4obobo11b5ob3obo2b3o2b2o$b4ob13ob4ob8ob4ob5ob4ob3o2b4ob5o4b3o3b
6o2b4o4b11obob8ob2o$bobobobobo2bob7o2bob4o2b3obob2ob5ob4ob2obo2b2obo2b
6ob6ob4ob3ob6ob3ob3obob6ob2ob2obo$12b5obob11obo2b3ob2obob2ob2o2b4ob6ob
obobob4obobob4obo2bobobobobo2bobobo2bobobobo2b2o$12bobobo2bobobobobobo
bob2o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2obobo29bob2o!
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
A really, really, really, really, really, really bad c/4 partial from zfind:
A considerably much better (but not as much as the one above) c/7:
Heres the final result, with 0 spaceships found:
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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3457/S4568
7b2o2$5b6o$3b10o$3b3ob2ob3o$b14o$3obobo2bobob3o$3ob8ob3o!
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x = 18, y = 19, rule = B3457/S4568
8b2o2$6b6o2$4b2obo2bob2o$3bo10bo$2b3obo4bob3o$2bobo8bobo$2o2b10o2b2o$
3bo10bo$6ob4ob6o$bob3o6b3obo$o3b10o3bo$b6o4b6o$ob4ob4ob4obo$b6o4b6o$6o
bo2bob6o$2b6o2b6o$o2bo3b4o3bo2bo!
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x = 18, y = 22, rule = B3457/S4568
8b2o$6bo4bo$3b2o2bo2bo2b2o$b7o2b7o$2b6o2b6o$18o$b4ob6ob4o$obobob2o2b2o
bobobo$b6ob2ob6o$ob14obo$b4o2b4o2b4o$obob10obobo$bob12obo$o3b3ob2ob3o
3bo$b3ob2ob2ob2ob3o$18o$2b6o2b6o$3o2b3o2b3o2b3o$ob14obo$bobob8obobo$ob
obob2o2b2obobobo$bob12obo!
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Bump. I'm running qfind for c/9 orthogonal spaceships. There is no odd-symmetric ship at width 8, but the search reached a final depth of around 868. I'm currently doing even at the same width, which shows more promise so far.
EDIT: No c/9o on even. The final depth was around 2109.
EDIT: No c/9o on even. The final depth was around 2109.
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
No c/3s at width 27, odd symmetric.
EDIT: No c/4s at width 27, odd symmetric.
EDIT 2: Spoke too soon, I should try all the other first rows first.
Edit 3: RIP Edit 4: There are more frontends still!
EDIT 5: Table of ruled-out widths:
Edit 6: First rows for c/4o at width 27 that have been ruled out:
I plan to keep eliminating outwards until I either eliminate the entire row, and therefore prove that there is no such spaceship, or until I find such a spaceship.
Edit 7: Currently searching this:
Edit 8: Moving on to the next front row.
Going through all of this will take a while. It takes JLS a few hours per search at this point.
EDIT 9:
EDIT: No c/4s at width 27, odd symmetric.
EDIT 2: Spoke too soon, I should try all the other first rows first.
Edit 3: RIP Edit 4: There are more frontends still!
EDIT 5: Table of ruled-out widths:
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|Speed|Width|Symmetry|
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|c/3o |27 |Odd |
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|c/4o |16 |Even |
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|c/5o |25 |Odd |
----------------------
|c/7o |19 |Odd |
----------------------
|c/7o |18 |Even |
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|c/7d |15 |Yes |
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|c/9o |15 |Odd |
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|c/9o |16 |Even |
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?????????????o?????????????
????????????obo???????????? (We can assume b in the middle because o led to no results and we didn't specify any other cells.)
???????????obbbo??????????? (We know that the middle three are b because o led to no results and we didn't specify anything we didn't know for sure.)
Edit 7: Currently searching this:
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??????????obbbbbo??????????
EDIT 9:
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
I HATE to double-post, but the 3 file limit forces me to do so. Anyways, another negative result. Trying the next first row now.
EDIT:
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
You should use life_slice_ship_search for this, not JLS.
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
I don't understand why. I've been able to find tons of spaceships before with JLS.LaundryPizza03 wrote: ↑September 14th, 2020, 8:26 pmYou should use life_slice_ship_search for this, not JLS.
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
JLS is comparatively slower than LSSS and LSSS has infinite ship length, which allows us to know for sure that a ship really does not exist at a certain width and not just ridiculously long.
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
How do I tell it the first row so that I can rule out possibilities, moving towards the edges?
Edit: Fixed broken quote tag.
EDIT 2: I plan to finish through this search before starting one with LSSS. The screen is red because of night shift. Edit 3: Edit 4:
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Someone remove this attachment limit please
Edit: Anyways, the other first rows resulted in unset cell errors.- LaundryPizza03
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
c/9o on even at width 9 returned negative, reaching a final depth of about 4700. Now trying odd...
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Quick question, because I'm curious. I know that LSSS has infinite ship length for a reason, but what prevents the Gems analog of this kind of thing in Seeds from paralyzing the search?
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x = 5, y = 358, rule = B2/S
bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$b
obo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o
3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$b
obo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bo
bo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3b
o3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bob
o$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo
$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo
3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo
$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$
o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$
bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$b
obo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o
3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$b
obo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bo
bo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3b
o3$bobo$bobo$o3bo3$bobo$bobo$o3bo!
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
c/9o returned negative on odd; it reached a depth of about 2800. The longest partial was:
I'm not sure if it's safe to attempt width 10.
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x = 17, y = 312, rule = B3457/S4568
3ob9ob3o$b2ob2o2bo2b2ob2o$o2b11o2bo$3b11o$2o4b5o4b2o$b15o$5ob2ob2ob5o$
bob2ob5ob2obo$5ob5ob5o$b3ob3ob3ob3o$2obob3ob3obob2o$b2ob4ob4ob2o$3o2b
3ob3o2b3o$b5ob3ob5o$4obobobobob4o$bobobo2bo2bobobo$obobob5obobobo$b2ob
9ob2o$2o2b9o2b2o$3b3o2bo2b3o$6ob3ob6o$bob2o3bo3b2obo$bob2o3bo3b2obo$ob
3ob5ob3obo$b4ob5ob4o$2o2bob5obo2b2o$b2ob9ob2o$6ob3ob6o$b2ob9ob2o$2ob4o
bob4ob2o$b2o2bobobobo2b2o$obobobobobobobobo$bo2b9o2bo$2o3bobobobo3b2o$
b2o2bobobobo2b2o$3o2b3ob3o2b3o$b2o3b5o3b2o$o4b7o4bo$b2o2bo2bo2bo2b2o$o
b4obobob4obo$bob2ob2ob2ob2obo$8ob8o$5bob3obo$2o2b4ob4o2b2o$b15o$ob13ob
o$b4o2b3o2b4o$o4b7o4bo$b7ob7o$ob6ob6obo$bo2b9o2bo$2ob4o3b4ob2o$2bobo2b
obo2bobo$7obob7o$2bobob5obobo$2o2bobobobobo2b2o$bob2ob5ob2obo$3ob9ob3o
$3bob3ob3obo$3ob4ob4ob3o$b6obob6o$b4o2b3o2b4o$3b2obobobob2o$b2obob5obo
b2o$2b6ob6o$17o$b2o2b2obob2o2b2o$5ob5ob5o$bob11obo$o2b11o2bo$b7ob7o$7o
bob7o$b2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$5ob5ob5o$b2obo2b3o2bob2o$2ob5ob5ob2o$2bo4b3o4bo$
5ob5ob5o$b2ob9ob2o$4ob7ob4o$bo3b2o3b2o3bo$4o2b5o2b4o$b2o2bob3obo2b2o$o
bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo$bob4obob4obo$3o3b2ob2o3b3o$b5ob3ob5o$2ob11ob2o$2bo3b
5o3bo$ob5obob5obo$2b13o$8ob8o$o2b3ob3ob3o2bo$b6o3b6o$2o2b9o2b2o$b15o$
3obobobobobob3o$b15o$3obobobobobob3o$bo2b9o2bo$5ob5ob5o$b3obob3obob3o$
4o2b5o2b4o$b2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$2ob11ob2o$b3ob7ob3o$4ob2obob2ob4o$2bob9obo$
7obob7o$b4ob5ob4o$4ob2obob2ob4o$b2ob9ob2o$8ob8o$b7ob7o$7obob7o$b3ob2ob
ob2ob3o$3obo2bobo2bob3o$b15o$3o2b7o2b3o$b3ob7ob3o$6ob3ob6o$b15o$17o$2b
o2bobobobo2bo$5o2b3o2b5o$b3o3b3o3b3o$2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$3b11o$3o2bo5bo
2b3o$bobob2obob2obobo$6obobob6o$b3ob2obob2ob3o$3o2b7o2b3o$b2o2b2o3b2o
2b2o$8ob8o$bobob3ob3obobo$2ob3ob3ob3ob2o$b3o2b5o2b3o$ob13obo$b2ob9ob2o
$obo4b3o4bobo$b6o3b6o$obo3bo3bo3bobo$bob3o2bo2b3obo$2ob3o2bo2b3ob2o$bo
bo4bo4bobo$ob2ob2obob2ob2obo$b2obo2b3o2bob2o$obob9obobo$b2o2b7o2b2o$ob
3ob5ob3obo$bob2ob5ob2obo$obo3b5o3bobo$2b4o5b4o$2ob3o5b3ob2o$b15o$ob13o
bo$bob2ob5ob2obo$2ob11ob2o$b6obob6o$5ob5ob5o$bob2o2b3o2b2obo$2ob11ob2o
$b3obob3obob3o$o2b2obobobob2o2bo$b2ob9ob2o$2obob2o3b2obob2o$5b7o$2o3b
3ob3o3b2o$bobobo2bo2bobobo$17o$3bobo2bo2bobo$ob3ob5ob3obo$2b4ob3ob4o$
2obob2obob2obob2o$2b2ob3ob3ob2o$ob2o3b3o3b2obo$b2obob5obob2o$obobob2ob
2obobobo$b6obob6o$5ob5ob5o$b5ob3ob5o$17o$bo3b2obob2o3bo$6o2bo2b6o$2bob
9obo$2obob2obob2obob2o$2b6ob6o$2obobob3obobob2o$b5obobob5o$3o2b7o2b3o$
bobo3b3o3bobo$4o3bobo3b4o$b4o2b3o2b4o$4o2b5o2b4o$b15o$4o2b5o2b4o$b4o2b
obo2b4o$2obob3ob3obob2o$b3ob3ob3ob3o$ob4obobob4obo$bo3b7o3bo$2ob2o3bo
3b2ob2o$b4ob2ob2ob4o$2ob2obobobob2ob2o$bobob3ob3obobo$o2b2ob5ob2o2bo$b
obob3ob3obobo$o2b11o2bo$b3o2b5o2b3o$3o3bobobo3b3o$b2o3b5o3b2o$3o2b2o3b
2o2b3o$b2o2bob3obo2b2o$2ob11ob2o$b15o$5o2b3o2b5o$b2ob3o3b3ob2o$2ob11ob
2o$bo3bo2bo2bo3bo$4obo2bo2bob4o$bo2b3o3b3o2bo$5ob5ob5o$b15o$2ob2o2b3o
2b2ob2o$b3obob3obob3o$2obob7obob2o$b2ob3obob3ob2o$o3b3obob3o3bo$b7ob7o
$6obobob6o$2b4o2bo2b4o$o2bobob3obobo2bo$b2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$3obob5obob3o$b
ob2o7b2obo$2obo9bob2o$b3o3b3o3b3o$4o2b2ob2o2b4o$7b3o$17o$4ob2obob2ob4o
$2b4ob3ob4o$5o3bo3b5o$2b5obob5o$6ob3ob6o$2b13o$3o2bob3obo2b3o$2b5obob
5o$2o2b2obobob2o2b2o$bo2b2o5b2o2bo$5ob5ob5o$b2ob4ob4ob2o$2ob4obob4ob2o
$b15o$3ob9ob3o$2b13o$8ob8o$3b5ob5o$7obob7o$b4ob5ob4o$7o3b7o$b2o3bobobo
3b2o$ob2o2bo3bo2b2obo$b15o$5o2b3o2b5o$bob2ob5ob2obo$ob13obo$5o2bobo2b
5o$bobob7obobo$6obobob6o$2bobob5obobo$4obob3obob4o$bob3o2bo2b3obo$5obo
3bob5o$bob11obo$3o2b3ob3o2b3o$bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo$3ob2o2bo2b2ob3o$b4ob5ob
4o$4ob2obob2ob4o$b15o$2obobob3obobob2o$b2o2b7o2b2o$obob2ob3ob2obobo$b
2ob9ob2o$2ob11ob2o$b15o$obo2bobobobo2bobo$3b4obob4o$7o3b7o$b15o$3ob2o
5b2ob3o$bob2o7b2obo$6o5b6o$b2ob9ob2o$2ob11ob2o$bo2b2obobob2o2bo$ob3ob
5ob3obo$bo3b7o3bo$2obob7obob2o$b4obo3bob4o$7obob7o$2bobo2bobo2bobo$17o
$b2obob2ob2obob2o$bob4o3b4obo$4b4ob4o$3bob7obo$6bo3bo$8bo$7bobo!
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
qfind returned negative for c/11 up to width 7.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
You claim that this would be less memory-intensive? Where would I find regular zfind?A for awesome wrote: ↑March 11th, 2017, 12:35 pmThis is an outer-totalistic rule, so you can just use normal zfind. I hope that helps at the higher widths.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Longest partial? Also, I highly recommend that you don't double-post.
ikpx2 should be worth trying, it was able to find spaceships in B3/S2, a difficult rule to find spaceships in (only one survival condition means extreme fragility), and I think it'll work here too, assuming you don't pass it through apgsearch.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Depth at least 3465 on even.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
Didn't record, sorry.
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Re: The hunt for another B3457/S4568 ship
That's kind of sad. What velocity do you plan to try next, assuming you decide to try another velocity?
EDIT: Tried a gfind search at width 14, c/5. No results for asymmetric or glide-reflective. No results for width-27 odd-symmetric, although that's due to a power outage, not an absence of shops. The maximum depth was somewhere around 490. The even-symmetric search was never reached.