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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 13th, 2018, 4:00 pm

A couple more or less non-trivial tagalongs for p4 spaceships:

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x = 233, y = 18, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$35bo35b2o$5bo13b3o14bo35bo$6bo14bo14b2o14b2o16b3o7b2o39b3o12b2o8b2o
13bo2b2o22bo2b2o26b2o$6b2o12b2o13b2o16b2o26b2o40bo13b2o8b2o14bob2o7b2o
14bob2o7b2o6b2o9bo$5b2o46bo11b2o14bo3b2o12b2o19bob2o13bo9bo8bo3b2o2b2o
9bo8bo2b2o2b2o9bo4bo2b2o7b2o3b2o$4bo13b3o12b3o16bo13bo4bo14bo7b2o4bo
13b2o13b2o5bo9bo14bo12b2o3bo8bo11b3o7bo11bo2b2o$9b3o6b2o13b3o18b2o9b2o
15bo2b2o8bo3b2o2b2o10bo14bo3bo20b2o3b2o16b2o4bo2b2o16bo16bo2bo$7bo3bo
6b5o10b3o16bo2bo38b2o6bob2o8b2o13b2o5bo9bo9b2o21bob3o18b2o4bo2b2o9bo$
6b2o2b2o7bo2bo11bobo15b4o14b2o28bo2b2o15bob2o13bo7b3o8bo16bo9bo4b2o12b
2obo4bob2o5b2o4b2o$5b3o13b2o10b2o2bo14bo18b2o50bo13b2o6b2o8bo18bo2b2o
3b2o5bo17b2o2b2o7bo5b2o$8bo11bo13bo2b2o32bo49b3o12b2o7b5o26bob2o7b3o
18bo10b2o5bo$36b2o32bo75bo2bo27b2o28b2o16bo$148b2o!
also one p8:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
8b2o$4bo4bo$5bob3o$5bo$5bobo2b2o$11bo$5b2o3b2o$4bob2o$5b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 14th, 2018, 6:23 am

An interesting p20:

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x = 14, y = 24, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo3bo$5bo2$o4bo4b2o$2bo5bo2bo$b2o2bo2b2ob2o$10bo2$5bo$6bo5$10bo$10b3o
$12bo$2b2o2bo2b2ob2o$3bob3obo2bo$bo4bo4b2o$5b3o$6bo$4bo3bo!
which gives a temporary R (strictly even two). It can be extended to an almost R gun, something like an R-crawler gun:

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x = 41, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$27bo3bo$29bo2$2b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o4bo4b2o$2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo5bo2bo$b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o2bo2b2ob2o$34bo$24b2o$23b2o4bo
$24bo5bo$25bo4$34bo$34b3o$36bo$26b2o2bo2b2ob2o$27bob3obo2bo$25bo4bo4b
2o$29b3o$30bo$28bo3bo!
Maybe someone finds a way to detach them from the wall (or transform it to a glider).
I just found this p40:

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x = 52, y = 25, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$41bo3bo$43bo$42bobo$16b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o4bo4b2o$16bo2bo2bo2bo2b
o2bo2bo2bo2bobobobo2bo$o14b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$2bo4bo
40bo$b2o14bo9bo9bo$7bo8b2o8b2o8b2o$17b2o8b2o8b2o5$48bo$48b3o$42bobobo
3bo$40b2ob3ob2ob2o$41bo5bo2bo$39bo9b2o3$42bo3bo!
EDIT1:
And this p40 with a temporary glider:

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x = 40, y = 15, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$6bo3bo19bo3bo$8bo$7bobo5bo$2b2o4bo4b2ob2o5b2ob2o9b2o$2bo2bobobobo2bo
2bo5bo2bo2bo5bo2bo$b2ob2ob3ob2ob2ob2o3b2ob2ob2ob3ob2ob2o$2bo21bo5bobob
o3bo$2b3o20b2o9b3o$4bo20bo10bo$25b3o3$19bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » February 14th, 2018, 9:01 am

p60 gun:

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x = 24, y = 30, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9bo$7b5o$7bo3bo$6b2obo$9b2o$11bo2bo$7bo$11bo$7bo$11bo2bo$9b2o$9bo$b2o
8bo$2bo6b3o$o8bo2bo$11bo$9b3o$9bo$o2$7b3o$7bo8bo3bo$7b2o7bo3b3o$11bo4b
o5bo$6b2ob2ob2o5b2ob2o$7bo2bo2bob3obo2bo$7b2ob2o9b2o3$14bo3bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by googleplex » February 14th, 2018, 11:53 am

If we make an orthogonoid-like ship in this rule, would it be the first self-constructing spaceship that's not in CGoL?
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 14th, 2018, 1:05 pm

Goldtiger997 wrote:I did quite a bit of searching with ntgfind, but the only thing I found is this glide-symmetric c/3:
Two different c/3 spaceships, orthogonal with period 6:

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x = 39, y = 27, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2$11bo12b3o3bo3b3o$6b3o5b3o7b3o7b3o$6b3o2bo2b3o8bo4bo4bo$7bo7bo$11bo
18bo2$11bo18bo2$5bo11bo6bo11bo2$5bo2bo5bo2bo6bo2bo5bo2bo$8b7o12b7o$5bo
2bo5bo2bo6bo2bo5bo2bo2$10b3o16b3o$8bo2bo2bo12bo2bo2bo$7b3o3b3o10b3o3b
3o$8b2o3b2o12b2o3b2o$9bo3bo14bo3bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » February 14th, 2018, 10:55 pm

googleplex wrote:If we make an orthogonoid-like ship in this rule, would it be the first self-constructing spaceship that's not in CGoL?
No, this title goes to Serizawa, I think.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 15th, 2018, 2:58 pm

danny wrote: Related p36 gun (should allow for arbitrary periods of 40+8n, too, but also 36 for some reason):

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x = 14, y = 28, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bo$5bo$5b2o3$5b3o$4b2ob2o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o$5b3o6$13bo$5bobo3bo$b2o2b3o
3b2o$2bo$o4bo3$b2o$2bo$o$5b2o$5bo$7bo!
Not sure if it is known. We have direct R guns for all periods 36+4n as an eater can be added to make the snowflake to an R to G reflector for both states:

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x = 173, y = 186, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
16bo$14bo141bo$14b2o138bo$154b2o2$14b3o$13b2ob2o136b3o$13bo3bo135b2ob
2o$13b2ob2o135bo3bo$14b3o136b2ob2o$154b3o3$150b2o$151bo$22bo126bo$14bo
bo3bo141bo$10b2o2b3o3b2o132bobo3bo$11bo138b2o2b3o3b2o$9bo4bo136bo$149b
o4bo2$10b2o$11bo138b2o$9bo141bo$14b2o133bo$14bo139b2o$16bo137bo$156bo
9$16bo$14bo141bo$14b2o138bo$16bo137b2o$15bo140bo$13b5o137bo$13bo3bo
135b5o$12b2obob2o134bo3bo$13bo3bo134b2obob2o$13b5o135bo3bo$15bo137b5o$
155bo2$150b2o$151bo$149bo$22bo$14bobo3bo141bo$10b2o2b3o3b2o132bobo3bo$
11bo138b2o2b3o3b2o$9bo4bo136bo$149bo4bo2$10b2o$11bo138b2o$9bo141bo$14b
2o133bo$14bo139b2o$16bo137bo$156bo6$16bo$14bo141bo$14b2o138bo$154b2o$
15bo$13b5o137bo$13bo3bo135b5o$12b2obob2o134bo3bo$13bo3bo134b2obob2o$
13b5o135bo3bo$15bo137b5o$155bo2$150b2o$151bo$149bo2$22bo$14bobo3bo141b
o$10b2o2b3o3b2o132bobo3bo$11bo138b2o2b3o3b2o$9bo4bo136bo$149bo4bo2$10b
2o$11bo138b2o$9bo141bo$14b2o133bo$14bo139b2o$16bo137bo$156bo8$16bo$14b
o141bo$14b2o138bo$154b2o$15bo$13b5o137bo$13bo3bo135b5o$12b2obob2o134bo
3bo$13bo3bo134b2obob2o$13b5o135bo3bo$15bo137b5o$155bo2$150b2o$151bo$
149bo3$22bo$14bobo3bo141bo$10b2o2b3o3b2o132bobo3bo$11bo138b2o2b3o3b2o$
9bo4bo136bo$149bo4bo2$10b2o$11bo138b2o$9bo141bo$14b2o133bo$14bo139b2o$
16bo137bo$156bo9$16bo$14bo141bo$14b2o138bo$154b2o$15bo$13b5o137bo$13bo
3bo135b5o$12b2obob2o134bo3bo$13bo3bo134b2obob2o$13b5o135bo3bo$15bo137b
5o$155bo2$150b2o$151bo$149bo4$22bo$14bobo3bo141bo$10b2o2b3o3b2o132bobo
3bo$11bo138b2o2b3o3b2o$9bo4bo136bo$149bo4bo2$10b2o$11bo138b2o$9bo141bo
$14b2o133bo$14bo139b2o$16bo137bo$156bo!

I also found a p12 switch type reflector, not sure if it is useful, its function (shown left) is slightly different to the simple stable switch (right):

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x = 233, y = 37, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$69bobo$69b3o6$198b2o$118b2o22b2o53bob2o$16bo22bo25bo23bo29bo23bo54b2o
$11b2o5bo15b2o5bo18b2o5bo16b2o5bo26b2o22b2o63bo$12bo4b2o4b2o10bo4b2o4b
2o13bo4b2o4b2o11bo4b2o4b2o29bo23bo51bo$10bo10bo2bo8bo8bobo2bo11bo10bo
2bo9bo8bobo2bo49bo30bo22b5o$21b2o21b2o24b2o22b2o27bo21b5o24bo26bo3bo$
121b5o19bo3bo22b5o23b2obob2o$12bo22bo25bo23bo35bo3bo18b2obob2o21bo3bo
24bo3bo$120b2obob2o18bo3bo21b2obob2o23b5o$12bo22bo25bo23bo35bo3bo19b5o
22bo3bo26bo$121b5o21bo24b5o$12bo22bo25bo23bo37bo50bo$10bo3bo18bo3bo21b
o3bo19bo3bo3bo$17b3o20b3o47b3o89b2o$17bobo20bobo47bobo89bo$91bo90b2o
17bo$121bo23bo26bo!
With a suitable sparker we can obtain other periods as well - the p12 was the smallest I found.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 16th, 2018, 1:49 am

The 28-cell universal catalyst/invincible structure I posted has been dethroned!

First, a smaller bounding box variant:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3b2o$3bo2b2o$b3o3bo$bo5b3o$9bo$o$3o5bo$2bo3b3o$2b2o2bo$5b2o!
And a 22-cell:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$3o2bo$o$7bo$2bo2b3o$o4bo$2o2b2o!
What is the smallest 'universal catalyst'?

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My apgsearch runs found this p19 gun predecessor:

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo$9b5o$9bo3bo$bo6b2obob2o$2o7bo3bo$bo7b5o$11bo2$3bo$bo$9b2o$7bo2bo$
7b2o!
Looks far enough for a synthesis, and maybe even a breeder.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 16th, 2018, 6:54 am

This 2G+R reaction can insert an R into a salvo and is gunable:

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x = 14, y = 13, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6b2o$5bob2o$6b2o2$11b2o$11bo$11b3o3$2b2o$bob2o$2b2o!
It allows for pseudo R-guns for all periods p>31. Here is the p=32 example:

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x = 68, y = 80, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
18b2o3b2o$18bo5bo$17b2o2bo2b2o4$16bo9bo$18bob3obo$17b2obobob2o3$51bo$
53bo$52b2o3$52bo$50b5o$21bo28bo3bo$19b5o25b2obob2o$19bobobo28bo$18b2o
3b2o27bo$51b3o$21bo5bo24bo$11bo8bobo6bo$11b3o6b3o11bo$5b2o14bo3b3o$6bo
19b3o2bo7bo$4bo20b3o10b3o$11b3o20bo2bo2bo$11bo17bo$27bo$15bo$13b5o27bo
$8b2o3bo3bo19b2o8bo$9bo2b2obob2o17bob2o6b2o8b2o$7bo5bo3bo19b2o6bo10bo$
13b5o28bo6bo4bo$15bo26b2o$42bo$42b3o11b2o$11bo44bo$9b5o44bo$3bo5bo3bo
19b2o17b2o$5bo2b2obob2o17bob2o17bo$4b2o3bo3bo19b2o10bo5bo$9b5o29bo$11b
o31b2o$23bo$7bo17bo33bo$7b3o20bo26b5o$o20b3o9bo9bo13bo3bo5bo$2bo19b3o
2bo7bo6b3o11b2obob2o2bo$b2o14bo3b3o10b2o7bo13bo3bo3b2o$7b3o6b3o11bo26b
5o$7bo8bobo6bo33bo$17bo5bo13b2o3b2o$38bo4bo$14b2o3b2o15bo4bo$15bobobo$
15b5o$17bo10$13b2obobob2o$14bob3obo$12bo9bo4$13b2o2bo2b2o$14bo5bo$14b
2o3b2o!
Unfortunately this does not give us an p32 pseudo G gun.

For some reasons we can also construct a p=31 salvo, but only when every second R has a different colour. So a proper p=31 pseudo gun is not possible using this principle.

EDIT1:
more on R guns:
A found a p3 2G to R converter which works on two periods:

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x = 71, y = 19, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo25bo23bo$4b3o23b3o21b3o$4bo25bo23bo2bo$8bo23bo23bo$5bobo2bo5b2o13b
2o3bo5b2o11b3o2bo5b2o$8bo7bo15bo9bo13bo9bo$4bo11b2o12bo11b2o10bo2bo8b
2o$4b3o23b3o21b3o$6bo25bo23bo8$14b3o23b3o21b3o$14bobo23bobo21bobo!
This has a minimal repeat time of 21, so it works for p=21+ 3n:

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x = 29, y = 32, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
$2bo$3o$o$4bo$bobo2bo5b2o9b2o$4bo7bo9b2obo$o11b2o9b2o$3o$2bo8$10b3o$
10bobo9$11bo$10b3o$10bobo$11bo!
Thus, we have a p30 R gun:

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x = 94, y = 117, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
5$66bo$64bo$64b2o4$63b3o$62b2ob2o$62bo3bo$62b2ob2o$52bo6b3ob3ob3o$34bo
19bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$32bo20b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo3b2o$32b2o24b2ob2o3b2ob2o3bo$
59b3ob3ob3o6bo$62b2ob2o$62bo3bo10bo$62b2ob2o8bo$29b2o3b2o27b3o9b2o$30b
obobo6bo$27bo2b2ob2o2bo$20bo6b3o2bo2b3o$22bo6bo5bo5b2o13b2o$21b2o5bobo
3bobo5bo14bo16bobo$29bo5bo5b2o13b2o14b2o3b2o$27b3o2bo2b3o25bobo5bo7bo$
27bo2b2ob2o2bo25b3o5bo7bo$30bobobo8b2o13b2o10bo9bo$29b2o3b2o6b2obo11b
2obo24b2o$43b2o13b2o10bo9bo4bo$42bo28bo7bo7bo$43bo27bo7bo$41b5o26b2o3b
2o$31b2o8bo3bo28bobo$32bo7b2obob2o$30bo10bo3bo$38bo2b5o2bo$31bo4b5o2bo
2b5o$33bo2bo3bo5bo3bobo21b2o$32b2ob2obob2o3b2obob2ob2o20bo$34bobo3bo5b
o3bo2bo9bobo7bo$36b5o2bo2b5o4bo7b3o$38bo2b5o2bo$41bo3bo$37bo2b2obob2o$
35bo5bo3bo$35b2o4b5o$43bo$44bo$42b2o$43bo$34bobo4bo$32b2o3b2o$31bo7bo$
23bo7bo7bo$21bo3bo4bo9bo22bobo$19bo4b2o19b2o16b3o$19b2o9bo9bo4bo$31bo
7bo7bo$31bo7bo$32b2o3b2o$18b3o13bobo$17b2ob2o$17bo3bo$17b2ob2o51bo$7bo
6b3ob3ob3o48b3o$9bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o6b2o13b2o13b2o11bo$8b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo7b
o14bo14bo7bo$13b2ob2o3b2ob2o6b2o13b2o13b2o5bo2bobo$14b3ob3ob3o46bo$17b
2ob2o53bo$17bo3bo13bo37b3o$17b2ob2o12bobo36bo$18b3o13b3o$29b3o3bo$29bo
bo$48bo$18b2o26bo$19bo26b2o$17bo27bo$46bo$44b5o$44bo3bo$43b2obob2o$44b
o3bo$41bo2b5o2bo$35bo3b5o2bo2b5o$34bobo2bo3bo5bo3bobo$34b3ob2obob2o3b
2obob2ob2o$29b3o3bobobo3bo5bo3bo2bo$26bo2bobo7b5o2bo2b5o4bo$41bo2b5o2b
o$44bo3bo$43b2obob2o$27b2o3b2o10bo3bo$28bobobo11b5o$25bo2b2ob2o2bo10bo
$18bo6b3o2bo2b3o11bo$20bo6bo5bo11b2o$19b2o5bobo3bobo5b2o4bo$27bo5bo6bo
3bo$25b3o2bo2b3o6bo$25bo2b2ob2o2bo$28bobobo$27b2o3b2o5$29b2o$30bo$28bo
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » February 16th, 2018, 10:12 am

Small G reflector found while trying to replace the second G in the new converter with a catalyst:

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x = 22, y = 11, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
15b2o$15bo$14b2o3bo$19b3o$b2o9b2o4bo2bo$ob2o9bo5bo$b2o9b2obo2b3o$19bo$
18bo2bo$19b3o$19bo!
Works for p21+3n, just like the original converter.
Smaller p30 R gun:

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Obsoleted, see below
EDIT^n: R-producing variant:

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x = 22, y = 12, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14b2o$14bo$13b2o$19bo$19b3o$b2o9b2o4bo2bo$ob2o9bo5bo$b2o9b2obo2b3o$19b
o$18bo2bo$19b3o$19bo!
Works for p21+3n, same as above.
p30 R gun, again:

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x = 52, y = 54, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
10bo30b3o$12bo28bobo$11b2o30bo5$9b2o3b2o$10bo3bo$7bo2b5o2bo$7b3o2bo2b
3o6bo$9bo5bo6bo$b2o6b2o3b2o6b2o$2bo6bo5bo$o6b3o2bo2b3o11b2o3b2o$7bo2b
5o2bo11bo2bo2bo5b3o$10bo3bo13b2o5b2o4bobo$9b2o3b2o16bo8bo$31bobo$38bo$
11bobo18bo3b3o$8bo2b3o22bo$23b2o$22b2obo$23b2o8bo$32b3o14bo$32bobo14b
3o$33bo17bo$47bo$14b2o13b2o12bo4bobo$15bo14bo11b3o2bo$14b2o13b2o12bo7b
o$9bo39b3o$7b3o39bo$7bo25bo8b2o$12bobo16b2ob2o7bo$13bo17bobobo7b2o$9b
2o5b2o12b2o3b2o$10bo2bo2bo12bo7bo$10b2o3b2o10b3o7b3o5bo$27bo11bo3bo$
22b2o2bobo9bobo2b2o$23bo3bo11bo$21bo5b3o7b3o$29bo7bo$30b2o3b2o$31bobob
o$31b2ob2o$33bo3$33b2o$33bo$35bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 16th, 2018, 4:36 pm

Nice guns, Blinkerspawn!

Another gun predecessor:

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x = 12, y = 10, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9bo3$2bo$2b2o$2bo2$o9b2o$8bo2bo$8b2o!
This looks easier because of lack of cleanup dots.

Also, could these be made into a clean pull reaction? It unfortunately leaves the R:

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x = 25, y = 71, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
17bo2$11b2o$12bo$b2o7b3o$2bo$3o14$17bo2$11b2o$12bo$b2o7b3o$2bo$3o12b3o
$17bo$16b2o2$18bo10$17bo2$15b3o$17bo$11b2o3b2o$12b2o$12bo6b2o$11bo8b2o
$20bo$19bo$24bo10$13bo$10bo$11bo$11b2o$5b3o2b2o$7bo$6b2o7b2o$16bo$14b
3o2$16bo!
If this ends up working, an arbitrarily slow spaceship could most likely be made (if we could get an g->r in there somewhere), and that would be freaking awesome.

EDIT: (post below)
AforAmpere wrote:If some dot-pulling reaction was found, that sent a spaceship back the opposite way, that would also allow a arbitrarily slow ship.
Yes but that is less likely to be found without some sort of search program (winks and nudges at script writers, or me if I get off my rear and learn more lua)
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AforAmpere » February 16th, 2018, 4:50 pm

If some dot-pulling reaction was found, that sent a spaceship back the opposite way, that would also allow a arbitrarily slow ship.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by toroidalet » February 16th, 2018, 7:40 pm

16-cell (probably) invincible structure:

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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2o$o4b2o$2bo3bo$4bo$3b2o$bo4bo$b2o2b2o!
AforAmpere wrote:If some dot-pulling reaction was found, that sent a spaceship back the opposite way, that would also allow a arbitrarily slow ship.
try, I have 2 (probably suboptimal) variants:

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x = 40, y = 59, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo24bo7$6b3o22b3o$6bobo22bobo3$12b3o22b3o$12bobo22bobo$14bo24bo5$bo
24bo$3o22b3o$o2bo21bo2bo3$9b3o22b3o$9bobo22bobo$11bo24bo3$8b3o22b3o$8b
obo22bobo$10bo24bo2$5b3o22b3o$3o2bobo17b3o2bobo$obo22bobo$2bo24bo2$3bo
24bo$2b3o22b3o$bo2bo21bo2bo3$2b3o22b3o$2bobo22bobo$2bo24bo2$5b3o22b3o$
5bobo22bobo8$4b3o24bo$4bobo23b3o$30bobo$31bo!
(These are technically slow salvos even though they're über-compressed. you can also generate a few extras by triggering the reflection reaction with an r instead of a glider.)
also, 2 new repeat time 68 splitters (slight variations):

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x = 140, y = 125, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
16bo$15bobo98bo$15b3o97bobo$16bo98b3o$116bo24$132bo$130bo$130b2o$32bo$
30bo$30b2o99bo$16bo6bo105b5o3b2o$15bobo3b5o90bo6bo5bo3bo3bo$15b3o3bo3b
o5bo83bobo3b5o2b2obob2o4bo$16bo3b2obob2o2b5o3b2o76b3o3bo3bo3bo3bo$21bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo78bo3b2obob2o2b5o$21b5o2b2obob2o4bo81bo3bo5bo$23bo5bo3bo
87b5o8bo$29b5o89bo8b5o$21b2o8bo100bo3bo$11b2o8bo12bo86b2o8b2obob2o$12b
o10bo8b5o74b2o8bo10bo3bo$10bo6bo14bo3bo75bo10bo8b5o$31b2obob2o72bo6bo
16bo$19b2o11bo3bo$19bo12b5o82b2o11bo$21bo12bo84bo10b5o$121bo8bo3bo$32b
o96b2obob2o$30b5o95bo3bo$30bo3bo95b5o$29b2obob2o96bo$30bo3bo$30b5o95bo
$32bo95b5o$128bo3bo$30bo96b2obob2o$28b5o95bo3bo$28bo3bo95b5o$27b2obob
2o96bo$28bo3bo$28b5o95bo$30bo95b5o$126bo3bo$28bo96b2obob2o$26b5o95bo3b
o$26bo3bo95b5o$25b2obob2o96bo$26bo3bo$26b5o95bo$28bo95b5o$124bo3bo$26b
o96b2obob2o$24b5o95bo3bo$24bo3bo95b5o$23b2obob2o96bo$24bo3bo$24b5o99bo
$26bo99b5o$126bo3bo$28bo96b2obob2o$26b5o95bo3bo$26bo3bo95b5o$25b2obob
2o96bo$26bo3bo$26b5o99bo$28bo99b5o$128bo3bo$26bo100b2obob2o$24b5o99bo
3bo$24bo3bo99b5o$23b2obob2o100bo$24bo3bo$24b5o$26bo103bo$128b5o$128bo
3bo$26bo100b2obob2o$24b5o99bo3bo$24bo3bo99b5o$23b2obob2o100bo$24bo3bo
79bo$24b5o71bo5b5o$26bo75bo3bo3bo$8bo92b2o2b2obob2o$o5b5o95bo3bo$2bo3b
o3bo95b5o$b2o2b2obob2o96bo5bo$6bo3bo101b5o$6b5o101bo3bo$8bo5bo96b2obob
2o$12b5o95bo3bo$12bo3bo95b5o$11b2obob2o96bo$12bo3bo$12b5o$14bo99b2o$
114bo$116bo$14b2o$14bo$16bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AforAmpere » February 16th, 2018, 7:43 pm

toroidalet wrote: try, I have 2 (probably suboptimal) variants:

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x = 40, y = 59, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
6bo24bo7$6b3o22b3o$6bobo22bobo3$12b3o22b3o$12bobo22bobo$14bo24bo5$bo
24bo$3o22b3o$o2bo21bo2bo3$9b3o22b3o$9bobo22bobo$11bo24bo3$8b3o22b3o$8b
obo22bobo$10bo24bo2$5b3o22b3o$3o2bobo17b3o2bobo$obo22bobo$2bo24bo2$3bo
24bo$2b3o22b3o$bo2bo21bo2bo3$2b3o22b3o$2bobo22bobo$2bo24bo2$5b3o22b3o$
5bobo22bobo8$4b3o24bo$4bobo23b3o$30bobo$31bo!
What I meant was one of the C/2's goes at a collection of dots, gets reflected, and the dots are pulled as well.
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 16th, 2018, 10:20 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Small G reflector found while trying to replace the second G in the new converter with a catalyst:
These reflectors work well for inserting a G or an R into a salvo, e.g.:

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x = 401, y = 44, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
12$269bo$268bobo99bobo$249bo18b3o99b3o$248bobo18bo$187bo60b3o$186bobo
26bobo31bo37bobo$91bo94b3o26b3o48bobo18b3o$90bobo21bobo70bo78b3o46bobo
$90b3o21b3o44bobo151b3o$42bo23bobo22bo69b3o130b2o$41bobo22b3o82bo18bo
23bo27bo69bo2bo$41b3o97bobo5bo18bo23bo27bo54bo16b2ob2o54bo25bo$42bo98b
3o5b2o17b2o22b2o26b2o33bo17bo20bo4bo24bo12b2o10bo13b2o10bo$17bobo78bo
22bo33bo18bo23bo27bo13bo12bo19b2o2bo21b3o20bo13bob2o9b2o2bo8bob2o9b2o
2bo$17b3o8bo22bo23bo20bo22bo35b3o16b3o21b3o25b3o12bo11b2o2bo19b3o10b2o
9bo20b2o2bo10b2o14b3o7b2o14b3o$26bo22bo23bo22b2o3bo17b2o3bo21b2o9bo7b
2o9bo12b2o9bo16b2o9bo12b2o14b3o7b2o10bo11bo7bo26b3o14b2o10bo13b2o10bo$
26b2o3bo17b2o3bo18b2o3bo22b3o20b3o20bo7bo10bo7bo15bo7bo19bo7bo13b2o5b
2o10bo8bo6bo14b2o3bo3b2o15b2o10bo15bo6bo18bo6bo$31b3o20b3o21b3o10b2o
10bo10b2o10bo19b2o3bo3b2o8b2o3bo3b2o13b2o3bo3b2o17b2o3bo3b2o20bo6bo11b
2o4bo2bobo20bo17bo6bo18b2o4bo2bobo14b2o4bo2bobo$21b2o10bo10b2o10bo11b
2o10bo11bo6bo15bo6bo32bo18bo23bo27bo20b2o4bo2bobo16bo25bo14b2o4bo2bobo
23bo25bo$22bo6bo15bo6bo16bo6bo14b2o4bo2bobo11b2o4bo2bobo31bo18bo23bo
27bo26bo23bo19b3o22bo30bo25bo$21b2o4bo2bobo11b2o4bo2bobo12b2o4bo2bobo
19bo22bo32b3o16b3o21b3o25b3o30bo17b3o19bo28bo24b3o23b3o$29bo22bo23bo
26bo22bo28bo18bo23bo27bo30b3o17bo48b3o24bo25bo$33bo22bo23bo20b3o20b3o
130bo68bo$31b3o20b3o21b3o20bo22bo$31bo22bo23bo!
These inserters allow us to construct (pseudo) G guns for all periods p>20 (with the results above also R guns for 21+3n).
For illustration a pseudo p21 G gun, quite large as the salvo construction has a repeat time larger than 42, so in fact a two Gs of period 84 are inserted into a p42 salvo:

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x = 177, y = 197, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
92bo$90bo$90b2o3$90b3o$89b2ob2o$89bo3bo$89b2ob2o$90b3o3$95b2o$95bo61bo
$97bo57bo$155b2o$90bobo$90b3o45bo16b3o$136bo17bo3bo$136b2o16bo3bo$153b
2obob2o$154bo3bo$154b5o$156bo$136bo$136bo23b2o$136bo23bo$84bo25bo16bo
34bo$77bo8bo10bo10bo16bo16bo$75bo9b2o8b3o10b2o15b2o13b5o5bo$75b2o18bo
44bo3bo3bo$90bo48b2obob2o2b2o5bobo$104bo14b2o19bo3bo10b3o$75bo11b2o8b
2o4b3o14bo19b5o$61bo3b2o6b2ob2o10bo9bo5bo14b2o6bo14bo$63bo2bo6bobobo8b
o9bo$62b3ob3o3b2o3b2o17b2o31b2o$48bo16bo2bo60bo$46bo16bo2bo57b2o5bo$
41bo23bobo16bo40bo9bobo$14bo35b2o13b3o6bobo9bo36bo11b3o11bo$16bo27bo2b
o2bo15bo7b3o4bo3b2o55bo8bo$15b2o33b2o7b3o17b3o58b5o5b2o8b2o$41bo37bo
23b2o35bo3bo3bo11bo$46bo36bo19bo35b2obob2o2b2o5bo6bo$16bo31bo31bobo2bo
17b2o35bo3bo$14b5o64bo56b5o7b2o$14bo3bo60bo62bo10bo$13b2obob2o59b3o69b
o$14bo3bo43b2o5b2o10bo$14b5o6bo16bo20bo5bo14bo80bo$10bo5bo10bo16bo16bo
9bo10b3o6bo71b5o$2bo5b5o13b2o15b2o19bo3bo13bo8bobo18b2o40b2o7bo3bobo$
4bo3bo3bo35bo37bo4b3o18bo41bo7b2obob2ob2o$3b2o2b2obob2o32b5o32bobo2bo
23b2o40b2o7bo3bo2bo$8bo3bo15b2o16bo3bo5bo29bo76b5o4bo$8b5o15bo16b2obob
2o2bo27bo82bo$10bo14bo2b2o16bo3bo3b2o4b2o3b2o15b3o$46b5o9bo2bo2bo17bo
73bo$22b2o24bo10b2ob3ob2o74bo15bo$23bo37bobobo76bo15bo$21bo5b2o28bo16b
obo17b2o40b2o5bo$27bo31bo14b3o17bo41bo11b2o$29bo28b2o34b2o40b2o5bo4bo$
10bo80bo50bo7bo$2bo5b5o48b3o25b6o47bo15b2o$4bo3bo3bo2bobo34b2o35bo2b2o
b2o26bo34bo$3b2o2b2obob2ob3o35bo35b3o3bo29bo34bo$8bo3bo39b2o43bo26b2o
5bo$8b5o80bob3o31bo$10bo49bo29bo4bo8bo20bo3b2o$59b3o7bo19b3o10b5o16b5o
$59bo2bo6b3o25b2o3bo3bo16bo3bo14bo$10bo60bo14b2ob3ob2o3bo2b2obob2o14b
2obob2o11b5o$8b5o54bo19bo2bo2bo2bo5bo3bo16bo3bo12bo3bo$8bo3bo21b2o29bo
2bobo16b2o3bo2b2o5b5o18b3o11b2obob2o2b2o$3b2o2b2obob2o21bo31bo23b2o11b
o22bo12bo3bo3bo$4bo3bo3bo21b2o35bo36b2o15b2o13b5o5bo$2bo5b5o56b3o36bo
16bo10bo5bo$10bo53b2o3bo21bo18bo16bo6b5o$29bo34bo24b5o40bo3bo$27bo38bo
22bo3bo39b2obob2o$21bo5b2o45bobo11b2obob2o39bo3bo$23bo50b3o12bo3bo40b
5o$22b2o24bo6b2o32b5o42bo$42b2o2b5o5bo9bo24bo$10bo14bo20bo3bo3bo9bo30b
2o$10bo35bobob2o2b2o8b2o29bo40b2o19bo$9bo5b2o29bo3bo46bo38bo18bo$3b2o
11bo26bo2b5o11bo72b2o18b2o$4bo4bo5b2o31bo8bo31b3o$2bo7bo15b2o15b2o10b
3o8b2o7bo13bobo46bo$10bo5bo10bo16bo10bo10bo7bobo12bo46bo19bo$14b5o6bo
16bo25bo5b3o59b2o16b5o$14bo3bo56bo78bo3bo$13b2obob2o133b2obob2o$14bo3b
o117bo17bo3bo$14b5o115b5o15b5o$16bo117bo3bo17bo$133b2o3b2o20b2o$160bo$
15b2o67bo25bo16bo26b3o5bo$16bo69bo10bo10bo16bo9bobo16bobo$14bo59bobo8b
2o8b3o10b2o15b2o8b3o4b3o5bo3bo$74b3o18bo8bo36b2ob2o2bo$90bo11b3o36bo3b
o2b2o$55bo5bo40bo5b2o31b2ob2o$57bo2b3o24b2o8b2o2bobo5bo32b3o$56b2o2bob
o25bo9bo3bo5b2o17bo$61bo24bo9bo5b3o$96b2o6bo24b2o$129bo$58b2o3b2o59b2o
5bo$59bo3bo20bo40bo$14bo44bo3bo22bo6bo29bo25bo$16bo64bo3b2o4bobo48bo8b
o$15b2o62b3o9b3o46b5o5b2o8b2o$79bo2bo31b2o24bo3bo3bo11bo$61b2o18bo32bo
24b2obob2o2b2o5bo6bo$62bo17b3o2bo28b2o24bo3bo$15b3o42bo20bo58b5o7b2o$
15bobo61bo2bo59bo10bo$15b3o61b3o69bo$81bo$25bo16bo31bobo7bo79bo$9bo17b
o16bo29b3o5b3o77b5o$2bo6b3o14b2o15b2o37bo2bo37b2o37bo3bo$4bo6bo72bo38b
o37b2obob2o2b2o$3b2o5b3o35b3o32b3o2bo34b2o37bo3bo3bo$11bo3bobo21b2o6b
2ob2o4bo27bo72b3o2b5o5bo$9b3o3b3o21bo7bo3bo2bo27bo2bo71bobo4bo$9bo15bo
13b2o6b2ob2o2b2o4b2o3b2o15b3o$48b3o9bo2bo2bo17bo$22b2o35b2ob3ob2o7bo
14bobo49bo12b2o3b2o$23bo50bobo13b3o47b5o11bo3bo$21bo5b2o28bo16b3o28b2o
33bo3bo11b5o$27bo31bo15bo29bo33b2obob2o2b2o8bo$29bo28b2o3bo41b2o33bo3b
o3bo$10bo129b5o5bo$2bo5b5o129bo15b2o$4bo3bo3bo28b2o52b2o26bo34bo$3b2o
2b2obob2o28bo52bo29bo34bo$8bo3bo28b2o51bo2bo26b2o5bo3b3o$8b5o77bo4b3o
31bo5bobo$10bo84bo7bo25b2o$69bo4bobo26b3o$69b3o2b3o20b2o18b2o8bo14bo$
9bo58bo2bo14b2ob3ob2o3bo19bo21b5o$9b3o51bobo3bo17bo2bo2bo2bo20b2o21bo
3bo$23b2o37b3obob3o16b2o3b2o9b3o33b2obob2o2b2o$3b2o19bo36b4o4bo33bo36b
o3bo3bo$4bo18b2o37b3o3bo2bo36b2o15b2o13b5o5bo$2bo6b3o57b3o36bo16bo16bo
$9bo54b2o3bo40bo16bo8bo$29bo34bo69b5o$27bo32bo5bo67bobobo$21bo5b2o30b
3o71b2o3b2o$23bo34bo2bo$22b2o24bo6b2o$32b2o12b5o5bo9bo$10bo14bo7bo12bo
3bo3bo9bo$8b5o8b3o7b3o11b2obob2o2b2o8b2o70b2o$8bo3bo8bo2bo4bo16bo3bo
85bo$3b2o2b2obob2o7b4o4bo16b5o11bo75bo$4bo3bo3bo10bo24bo8bo$2bo5b5o13b
2o15b2o10b3o8b2o$10bo5bo10bo16bo10bo10bo$14b5o6bo16bo25bo$14bo3bo$13b
2obob2o$14bo3bo$14b5o$16bo$61bo2bo$61b3o$15b2o45bo$16bo$14bo3$55bo$57b
o$56b2o$61bo$59b5o$59bo3bo$58b2obob2o$59bo3bo$59b5o$61bo3$61b2o$62bo$
60bo!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AforAmpere » February 16th, 2018, 10:23 pm

AforAmpere wrote: What I meant was one of the C/2's goes at a collection of dots, gets reflected, and the dots are pulled as well.
A partial reaction, that demonstrates my meaning:

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x = 22, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo$9b5o2bo$2o7bo3bo7bo$bo6b2obob2o2bo$2o7bo3bo$9b5o2bo$11bo!
It would have been a C/72 spaceship:

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x = 38, y = 7, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3bo23bo$b5o19b5o2bo$bo3bo10b2o7bo3bo7bo$2obob2o10bo6b2obob2o2bo$bo3bo
10b2o7bo3bo$b5o19b5o2bo$3bo23bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by AforAmpere » February 16th, 2018, 10:48 pm

In a closely related rule, spaceships C/30, and others of speed C/36+4n for all n>0:

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x = 100, y = 29, rule = B2cik3aik4cir5eqr6n8/S02aen3eij4cikwz5-nqy6ei7e
3bo35bo17bo19bo18bo$b5o31b5o13b5o15b5o14b5o$bo3bo31bo3bo13bo3bo15bo3bo
14bo3bo$2obob2o29b2obob2o11b2obob2o13b2obob2o12b2obob2o$bo3bo31bo3bo
13bo3bo15bo3bo14bo3bo$b5o31b5o13b5o15b5o14b5o$3bo35bo17bo19bo18bo4$2b
3o33b3o15b3o17b3o16b3o$2bobo33bobo15bobo17bobo16bobo7$2bobo2$38bobo$
56bobo$76bobo$3bo91bobo2$39bo$57bo$77bo$96bo!
EDIT, another with C/32+4n for n>0, with an extra C/30:

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x = 38, y = 23, rule = B2cik3aik4cir5ekqr6i7e8/S02aen3eij4cinwz5aeijr6ei7e
2bobo15bobo10bobo5$2bobo$2b3o15bobo$20b3o10bobo$33b3o3$3bo$b5o15bo$bo
3bo13b5o10bo$2obob2o12bo3bo8b5o$bo3bo12b2obob2o7bo3bo$b5o13bo3bo7b2obo
b2o$3bo15b5o8bo3bo$21bo10b5o$34bo$3bo$21bo$34bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 16th, 2018, 10:57 pm

AforAmpere wrote:In a closely related rule, spaceships C/30, and others of speed C/36+4n for all n>0:

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x = 100, y = 29, rule = B2cik3aik4cir5eqr6n8/S02aen3eij4cikwz5-nqy6ei7e
3bo35bo17bo19bo18bo$b5o31b5o13b5o15b5o14b5o$bo3bo31bo3bo13bo3bo15bo3bo
14bo3bo$2obob2o29b2obob2o11b2obob2o13b2obob2o12b2obob2o$bo3bo31bo3bo
13bo3bo15bo3bo14bo3bo$b5o31b5o13b5o15b5o14b5o$3bo35bo17bo19bo18bo4$2b
3o33b3o15b3o17b3o16b3o$2bobo33bobo15bobo17bobo16bobo7$2bobo2$38bobo$
56bobo$76bobo$3bo91bobo2$39bo$57bo$77bo$96bo!
First one also has an elementary c/21:

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x = 6, y = 1, rule = B2cik3aik4cir5eqr6n8/S02aen3eij4cikwz5-nqy6ei7e
obo2bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 17th, 2018, 11:58 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:I did quite a bit of searching with ntgfind, but the only thing I found is this glide-symmetric c/3:

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
9b6o$5bo2b5obo$3o6bobobobo$8bob3obo$4b3o2bo2b3o$bo6bobo$8b3o$5bo!
I doubt anyone can synthesize it though.
This glide-symmetric c/3 spaceship gives an almost puffer/rake, but it dies after a couple of generations, as the debris kills it. I did not find a way to stabilize it, maybe someone finds a way:

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x = 33, y = 21, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$7bo3bo7bo3bo$6b3o13b3o$3bo7bo3bo3bo7bo$2b3o21b3o$11bo3bo3bo$5bo3bo
11bo3bo$6bobo2bo3bo3bo2bobo$2b2o4bo13bo4b2o$3b4o17b4o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by praosylen » February 17th, 2018, 12:14 pm

2718281828 wrote:This glide-symmetric c/3 spaceship gives an almost puffer/rake, but it dies after a couple of generations, as the debris kills it. I did not find a way to stabilize it, maybe someone finds a way:

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x = 33, y = 21, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4$7bo3bo7bo3bo$6b3o13b3o$3bo7bo3bo3bo7bo$2b3o21b3o$11bo3bo3bo$5bo3bo
11bo3bo$6bobo2bo3bo3bo2bobo$2b2o4bo13bo4b2o$3b4o17b4o!
Dot puffer, for one:

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x = 32, y = 36, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
4bo3bo7bo3bo$7b3o5b3o$o3bo7bo7bo3bo$11b3o$o3bo15bo3bo$6bo3bo3bo3bo$o3b
o2bobo5bobo2bo3bo$7bo4bo4bo$9b7o3$21bo$24b3o$17bo6bobo$20b3o2bo2b3o$
24bob3obo$16b3o6bobobobo$21bo2b5obo$11bo13b6o$11bo2bo3$12bo$12bo3bo6$
16bo6$16bo!
Double:

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x = 39, y = 32, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo3bo7bo3bo$14b3o5b3o$7bo3bo7bo7bo3bo$18b3o$7bo3bo15bo3bo$13bo3bo3bo
3bo$7bo3bo2bobo5bobo2bo3bo$14bo4bo4bo$16b7o3$10bo17bo$5b3o23b3o$5bobo
6bo9bo6bobo$b3o2bo2b3o15b3o2bo2b3o$bob3obo23bob3obo$obobobo6b3o7b3o6bo
bobobo$bob5o2bo17bo2b5obo$b6o12bo12b6o$17bo3bo$19bo5$17bo3bo6$17bo3bo!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 17th, 2018, 12:49 pm

Here's a lead on a c/3 puffer:

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x = 39, y = 56, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
2bo$2bo2bo$2bo$14bo$4bo9bo2bo$bo2bo2bo6bo$4bo$16bo$bobob2o6bo2bo2bo$3o
bobo9bo$2obob2o$4o9bobob2o$2ob2o7b3obobo$obobo7b2obob2o$2ob2o7b4o$2bo
9b2ob2o$12bobobo$12b2ob2o$14bo5$4bo$2b2ob2o$2bobobo$2b2ob2o$2b4o$2b2ob
ob2o$2b3obobo$3bobob2o2$6bo$3bo2bo2bo$6bo2$4bo$4bo2bo$4bo4$31bo3bo$20b
3o7b2o3b2o$22bo7bo4bo$21b2o7bo2bo$30bobo4bo$37b2o$31b2o4bo$33bo2$32bob
obobo4$32bobobo!
Although the ones in the post above are probably less of a hassle.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by 2718281828 » February 17th, 2018, 1:05 pm

A for awesome wrote: Double:

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x = 39, y = 32, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
11bo3bo7bo3bo$14b3o5b3o$7bo3bo7bo7bo3bo$18b3o$7bo3bo15bo3bo$13bo3bo3bo
3bo$7bo3bo2bobo5bobo2bo3bo$14bo4bo4bo$16b7o3$10bo17bo$5b3o23b3o$5bobo
6bo9bo6bobo$b3o2bo2b3o15b3o2bo2b3o$bob3obo23bob3obo$obobobo6b3o7b3o6bo
bobobo$bob5o2bo17bo2b5obo$b6o12bo12b6o$17bo3bo$19bo5$17bo3bo6$17bo3bo!
Nice! Another double c/3 dot puffer: (not symmetric):

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x = 47, y = 26, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
3$18bo7bo$13b3o13b3o$13bobo6bo6bobo$9b3o2bo2b3o5b3o2bo2b3o$9bob3obo13b
ob3obo$8bobobobo6b3o6bobobobo$9bob5o2bo7bo2b5obo$9b6o15b6o4$21b3o$31bo
2b3o$9bo3bo16b3ob3o$8b3o16bo3bo3bo2b3o$5bo7bo3bo3b3o2b3ob3o5b3o$4b3o
15bo4bo3bo7bo$13bo3bo8b3ob2o3bo$7bo3bo15bo3bo$8bobo2bo3bo21b2o$4b2o4bo
28b2o$5b4o28b2o$24bo!
EDIT1: another one:

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x = 36, y = 34, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
13bo7bo$8b3o13b3o$8bobo6bo6bobo$4b3o2bo2b3o5b3o2bo2b3o$4bob3obo13bob3o
bo$3bobobobo6b3o6bobobobo$4bob5o2bo7bo2b5obo$4b6o15b6o3$17bo$16b3o$26b
o2b3o$6b3o16b3ob3o$2b3ob3ob3o9bo3bo3bo2b3o$2bobo2bo2bobo8b3ob3o5b3o$bo
bo7bobo8bo3bo7bo$2b3o5b3o8b3ob2o3bo$2b2o7b2o9bo3bo$7bo26b2o$6b3o10bo
14b2o$3o2bo3bo2b3o17b2o$3o9b3o$bo3b5o3bo2$5bo3bo$6b3o$7bo$3bobobobobo$
2bo9bo$7bo$3bo7bo$3b2o5b2o!

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by praosylen » February 17th, 2018, 9:58 pm

Toroidal chaotic replicator:

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x = 1, y = 3, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e:T0,5
o2$o!
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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 18th, 2018, 2:35 am

2R collisions (the categories are really weird and unsorted):

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x = 163, y = 223, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
119bo$99b2o16b5o11bo3bo4b3o$36bo19bo3bo12bo2bo2bo19bo17bo3bo9bo3bo3bo
2bobo10b2o$101bo14b2obob2o32bo$98bo18bo3bo35bo$100bo16b5o$99b2o18bo8$
11b2o17b3o7b2o21b2o18bo19b2o15b2o8b3o7b3o17bo$11bo20bo7bo22bo17bobo19b
o16bo11bo7bo19bobo$11b3o17b2o7b3o20b3o15b3o19b3o4b3o7b3o8b2o7b2o18b3o$
3o87b3o19bo$2bo89bo18b2o$b2o47b3o38b2o$52bo$51b2o17b3o77b3o$72bo79bo$
71b2o78b2o$30b3o8b2o74bo2bo$32bo7b2o76b3o$31b2o8bo77bo$42bo6$110b3o$
13b2o26b3o17b2o49bo$12b2o27bo8b3o8bo49b2o$13bo27b2o9bo8b3o$14bo15b3o
18b2o$32bo$3o28b2o$2bo$b2o3$41b3o17b2o$30b3o8bo18b2o$32bo8b2o18bo$31b
2o29bo$50b3o$52bo$51b2o4$14b2o25bo2bo17b2o$13b2o27b3o16b2o$14bo28bo6b
3o9bo$15bo36bo10bo$51b2o$3o$2bo$b2o3$30b3o30b2o$32bo29b2o$31b2o17b3o
10bo$52bo11bo$51b2o6$12b2o21bo2bo21b3o$11b2o23b3o21bo$12bo24bo22b2o$
13bo$3o47b3o$2bo49bo$b2o48b2o3$30b3o$14b2o16bo27bo$13b2o16b2o27bobo$
14bo45b3o$15bo$3o$2bo$b2o47b3o$52bo$51b2o2$11b3o21bo2bo22bo$11bo24b3o
22bobo$11b2o24bo23b3o3$3o$2bo$b2o47b3o$52bo$51b2o$11b3o16b3o9bo17bo$
11bo20bo7bobo17bobo$11b2o18b2o7b3o17b3o2$3o$2bo$b2o27b3o$32bo$31b2o2$
10bo39b3o9bo$10bobo39bo7bobo$10b3o38b2o7b3o2$3o$2bo$b2o4$11bo38b3o$11b
obo38bo$11b3o37b2o9$3o$2bo$b2o7$10bo2bo$11b3o$12bo4$3o$2bo$b2o2$4bo2bo
$5b3o$6bo8$3o$2bo$b2o8$2bo2bo$3b3o$4bo7$3o$2bo$b2o9$12bo$10bobo$10b3o
2$3o$2bo$b2o4$13bo$11bobo$11b3o3$3o$2bo$b2o3$13bo$11bobo$11b3o4$3o$2bo
$b2o!
Not included were the huge amount of non-sparky diehards, and perpendicular ships being eaten

The above post contains, luckily, 2 syntheses of a snowflake! As well as that 4-cell still life and several constellations.

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Re: Snowflakes (B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e)

Post by dani » February 18th, 2018, 4:16 pm

R+G front collisions, and incomplete perpendicular collisions:

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x = 223, y = 189, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
7bobo$128bo$6bo3bo115b5o14b2o19b2o21b2o$7b3o116bo3bo14bo20bo22bo26b2o$
66bo18bo2bo15bo2bo2bo14b2obob2o15bo16bo3bo15bo2bo3bo24bo$126bo3bo85b2o
$126b5o$128bo9$14bo35b3o18b3o17b3o18b3o18b3o14b3o7b2o30b3o15b2o8b3o$
13bo36bo9b2o9bo19bo8b2o10bo20bo16bo10bo30bo18bo8bo$12b2o36b2o9bo9b2o7b
2o9b2o8bo10b2o6b2o11b2o15b2o8b2o30b2o16b2o8b2o$13b2o45b2o19bo18b2o19bo
18b2o$80b2o38b2o19bo38b2o$40b2o98b2o39bo$2o39bo138b2o$bo38b2o$2o$171b
3o$50b3o20bo16b3o40b3o35bobo$50bo21bo7b2o8bo29b2o11bo37bo$50b2o8b2o9b
2o8bo8b2o29bo11b2o$61bo10b2o6b2o38b2o$40b2o18b2o$41bo$40b2o4$51b3o20bo
5b2o9b3o39bo$51bo21bo7bo9bo40bo$51b2o7b2o10b2o6b2o9b2o38b2o$61bo11b2o
57b2o$40b2o18b2o$41bo78b2o$40b2o79bo$120b2o3$53b3o19bo18bo37bo$53bo20b
o18bo37bo$53b2o5b2o11b2o17b2o36b2o$61bo12b2o4b2o11b2o25b2o9b2o$40b2o
18b2o19bo39bo$41bo38b2o38b2o$40b2o4$55bo4b2o31bo41bo$54bo6bo18b2o10bo
41bo$53b2o5b2o19bo9b2o40b2o$54b2o24b2o10b2o26b2o12b2o$121bo$120b2o$40b
2o$41bo$40b2o2$69b3o8b2o50bo$69bobo9bo38b2o9bo$69bo10b2o39bo8b2o$120b
2o9b2o4$90b3o$90bobo$90bo$54bo25b2o38b2o$53bo27bo39bo$52b2o26b2o38b2o$
53b2o2$40b2o$41bo$40b2o$91b3o$91bobo$55bo35bo$54bo75b3o$53b2o75bobo$
54b2o74bo2$40b2o$41bo$40b2o13$40b2o$41bo$40b2o3$50b3o$50bobo$50bo3$40b
2o$41bo$40b2o4$51b3o$51bobo$51bo12$40b2o$41bo$40b2o4$50b3o$50bobo$50bo
12$40b2o$41bo$40b2o5$51b3o$51bobo$51bo$40b2o$41bo$40b2o7$50b3o$40b2o8b
obo$41bo8bo$40b2o8$51b3o$51bobo$51bo!
The reaction labelled with a smiley face is a special reaction, it is part of the 3G puffer synth I posted, and it creates a dot while both gliders survive:

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B2ci3ai4c8/S02ae3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e
14bo$13bo$12b2o$13b2o3$2o$bo$2o!
It may be useful in engineering.

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