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mniemiec
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AforAmpere wrote:Could this be used to more efficiently synthesize 16.30? ... There is a honeyfarm predecessor, a pi, a weird corruption I don't know how to synthesize, and a boat.
One way to make the top thing is from generation 7 of a glider-tub collision; unfortunately, it forms upwards, so you would need to also edge-shoot the pi upwards (and I don't know of any way to do that).

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x = 26, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
23b3o$5bo15boo$4bobo14booboo$3obbo$bbo$bo!  2718281828 Posts: 738 Joined: August 8th, 2017, 5:38 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mniemiec wrote: One way to make the top thing is from generation 7 of a glider-tub collision; unfortunately, it forms upwards, so you would need to also edge-shoot the pi upwards (and I don't know of any way to do that). Code: Select all x = 26, y = 6, rule = B3/S23 23b3o$5bo15boo$4bobo14booboo$3obbo$bbo$bo!

This top thing is also part of the actual pufferfish synthesis. There are several 3 glider options for them, e.g. :

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x = 126, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
$20b2o5$17bo$9bo6b2o$10bo5bobo$8b3o4$6bo$4bobo2b2o$5b2ob2o$10bo3$20bo$19b2o$19bobo27$46b2o$46bobo$46bo! The were a lot of 3-glider syntheses for the junk at the top. BobShemyakin Posts: 214 Joined: June 15th, 2014, 6:24 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Goldtiger997 wrote: AforAmpere wrote:Could this be used to more efficiently synthesize 16.30? Code: Select all x = 25, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 8$15b3o$13b2o$13b2ob2o3$16bo$16b2o$18bo$16b2o$16bo6$7b2o3b3o$7bobo3bob o$8bo$14bo!  There is a honeyfarm predecessor, a pi, a weird corruption I don't know how to synthesize, and a boat. Here's a synthesis in 11 gliders: Code: Select all x = 49, y = 70, rule = B3/S23 bo$2bo$3o6$9bo$7bobo$8b2o$19bo$18bo$18b3o$10bo$8bobo$9b2o2$20bo$20bobo
$20b2o5$17bo$9bo6b2o$10bo5bobo$8b3o4$6bo$4bobo2b2o$5b2ob2o$10bo3$20bo$19b2o$19bobo27$46b2o$46bobo$46bo! The were a lot of 3-glider syntheses for the junk at the top. Here's a synthesis in 9 gliders: Code: Select all x = 52, y = 34, rule = B3/S23 30bobo$30b2o$31bo$2bo$obo$b2o2$48b2o$49bo$48bo$48b2o$16b2o33bo$12b2o2b
obo29b4o$13b2obo31bo$12bo36bo$50bo$2b3o44b2o$4bo$3bo4$10b3o$12bo16b2o$11bo17bobo$29bo3$22bo$21b2o$21bobo$9b2o$10b2o$9bo!

Bob Shemyakin

nokangaroo
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As suggested, I post my $boring_useless_stuff here from now on. Smaller p80 glider gun The get_area.py script suggests p00448_4, but this one is actually smaller (and the scripts finds it when you put it in "test"): Code: Select all x = 70, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory 35.A.A$35.2A.A.2A$38.2A.A$35.2A$35.A.4A$37.AB2.A$36.BA.2A.A.2A$28.2A
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chris_c
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nokangaroo wrote:As suggested, I post my $boring_useless_stuff here from now on. Smaller p80 glider gun The get_area.py script suggests p00448_4, but this one is actually smaller (and the scripts finds it when you put it in "test"): Code: Select all rle Thanks. You are right. Improvements to the p20 and p40 happened nearly a year ago but they never got applied to the p80. BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1908 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries chris_c wrote: nokangaroo wrote:As suggested, I post my$boring_useless_stuff here from now on.
Smaller p80 glider gun

The get_area.py script suggests p00448_4, but this one is actually smaller (and
the scripts finds it when you put it in "test"):

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rle
Thanks. You are right. Improvements to the p20 and p40 happened nearly a year ago but they never got applied to the p80.
On a less important note, 13-cell population reduction:

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x = 70, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
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4.2A2B$30.2BA2B2A.2A2BA2B6.3BA3.3AB$30.7B.7B7.3A2B.BABAB$30.5B2A.2A5B 8.5B2.2A$30.BA2BA.A.A.A2BAB9.4B$31.A3BA3.A3BA11.3BA$33.3B3.3B14.3BA$34.B5.B16.3A!  LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] Rhombic Posts: 1056 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 5:41 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This transparent block reappears at generation 70 until generation 350: Code: Select all x = 14, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 o$2o10b2o$b2o9b2o$2o!

Allows this (30,3) :

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x = 94, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
72b2o$72b2o18b2o$42b2o48b2o$o41b2o18b2o$2o10b2o48b2o$b2o9b2o18b2o$2o
30b2o!

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AbhpzTa
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Rhombic wrote:This transparent block reappears at generation 70 until generation 350:

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x = 14, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
o$2o10b2o$b2o9b2o$2o!  It's a well-known reaction. (e.g. HFx107B) Code: Select all x = 35, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory .2A.D$3A.EAD$.2A.3E.2C$3A.2AD.2C22.D$2A30.2D$33.2D$33.D$32.D6$31.2C$
31.2C3$17.2C$18.C$15.3C$15.C$27.2C$27.C$28.3C$30.C!
Rhombic wrote:Allows this (30,3) :

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x = 94, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
72b2o$72b2o18b2o$42b2o48b2o$o41b2o18b2o$2o10b2o48b2o$b2o9b2o18b2o$2o
30b2o!
It's (30,2) .
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).

Arun Debray
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I'm guessing someone already noticed this, but if you put a pre-pulsar on an 8 x 16 torus, it oscillates with period 20. So if I understand correctly, this can be made into an agar.

How does one go about stabilizing this to produce a p20 oscillator?

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x = 26, y = 13, rule = B3/S23:T16,8
ooobbbooo$obobbbobo$ooobbbooo!

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Arun Debray wrote:I'm guessing someone already noticed this, but if you put a pre-pulsar on an 8 x 16 torus, it oscillates with period 20. So if I understand correctly, this can be made into an agar.

How does one go about stabilizing this to produce a p20 oscillator?
Interesting -- this seems maybe a little less impossible than usual, since you don't have to stabilize the sides, only the top and bottom. If you could find a p10 sparker that produced the white sparks every 10 ticks, that would do it:

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
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3.3A2$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A2$2.3A3.3A2$.C.C.C.C.C.C! Unfortunately a p4 or p5 sparker doesn't quite work -- not that it would be easy to find a sparker like that even at p4 or p5, and p10 isn't really within reach of current search utilities. We do have true-period p20 guns, so possibly there's a way to make useful sparks with carefully positioned sparking eaters or something. (I don't see how, but I'm wrong a lot about this kind of thing.) Short summary: it seems hard to suppress the one key birth without an unreasonable lot of high-period sparks. There aren't any successful stabilizations of this agar in the p20 section of Dean Hickerson's collection, jslife, or the jslife supplement. That doesn't necessarily mean it's new, it just means I can't immediately find any prior art (and at least it seems that no one has successfully stabilized it). EDIT: Except they have, twice now! See following messages. I'm not very good at oscillator stabilizations, so I probably shouldn't say anything... but maybe it would be safer to just be happy with the infinite agar: x = 141, y = 167, rule = B3/S23 2b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b 3o2$o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3b o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bob o4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo$o4bobo4bo 3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo 4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo2$2b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o 7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o2$2b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o 3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o2$o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo 4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo$o4bobo4bo3b o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo bo4bo3bo4bobo4bo$o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bobo4bo 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impossible than usual, since you don't have to stabilize the sides, only the top and bottom. If you could find a p10 sparker that produced the white sparks every 10 ticks, that would do it: Code: Select all x = 13, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory .C.C.C.C.C.C2$2.3A3.3A2$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A2$2.3A3.3A2$2.3A 3.3A2$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A$A4.A.A4.A2$2.3A3.3A2$.C.C.C.C.C.C!
Unfortunately a p4 or p5 sparker doesn't quite work -- not that it would be easy to find a sparker like that even at p4 or p5, and p10 isn't really within reach of current search utilities.
It seems like a p5 sparker actually would — there's a placement of sparks that merely creates a non-interacting domino spark in gen 6 instead of ruining everything — and there's even a sparker in jslife that nearly fits the bill but requires an impossible weld (involving a Coolout Conjecture counterexample) to be made work. For reference, these (or the equivalent) are the type of sparks required:

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x = 15, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
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3.3A2$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A2$3.3A3.3A2$.3C7.3C$6C3.6C$4C7.4C! Perhaps WLS/JLS could provide a solution. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce Bullet51 Posts: 537 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A for awesome wrote: It seems like a p5 sparker actually would — there's a placement of sparks that merely creates a non-interacting domino spark in gen 6 instead of ruining everything — and there's even a sparker in jslife that nearly fits the bill but requires an impossible weld (involving a Coolout Conjecture counterexample) to be made work. For reference, these (or the equivalent) are the type of sparks required: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory 4C7.4C$6C3.6C$.3C7.3C2$3.3A3.3A2$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A2$3.3A3.3A2$3.3A 3.3A2$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A$.A4.A.A4.A2$3.3A3.3A2$.3C7.3C$6C3.6C$4C7.4C!
Perhaps WLS/JLS could provide a solution.

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2.A$4.2A9.2A37.2A9.2A!  Still drifting. Scorbie Posts: 1389 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries @A for Awesome @Bullet51 Cool! I was searching for the same thing with ofind but didn't find anything. Not sure why... @dvgrn Prior art regarding that wick: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1591&start=0 Fortunately Bullet51's new stabilization is way smaller. Best wishes to you, Scorbie Saka Posts: 3138 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Is this crystal thingy known? Code: Select all x = 127, y = 133, rule = B3/S23 o$b2o$2o2$3bobo$4b2o$4bo$7bo$8b2o$7b2o2$10bobo$11b2o$11bo$14bo$15b2o$14b2o2$17bobo$18b2o$18bo$21bo$22b2o$21b2o2$24bobo$25b2o$25bo$28bo$29b
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$119b2o2$122bobo$123b2o$123bo6$125b2o$125b2o!

Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!  (Check gen 2) P.Y. Posts: 3 Joined: March 30th, 2017, 10:14 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Code: Select all x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 3o$3bo$o$2o!

A small methuselah with 1676 generations lifespan. I know, it is not very long, but r-pentomino relatives with the same initial bounding box live a few hundreds generations shorter. So is it interesting/useful/known/has its own name? I don't believe such a small pattern was never discovered before.

mniemiec
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P.Y. wrote:... A small methuselah with 1676 generations lifespan. I know, it is not very long, but r-pentomino relatives with the same initial bounding box live a few hundreds generations shorter. So is it interesting/useful/known/has its own name? I don't believe such a small pattern was never discovered before.
Back in the 1980s (I think?), Thompson ran all closely-connected patterns up to 10 bits up to completion, so he would definitely have found this. He probably just didn't find it interesting at the time. What "interesting" means is fairly subjective, and varies from time to time, and individual to individual. (For example, sometime in the 1980s-1990s,

Re-visiting areas that have been searched before is likely to produce fewer new results, but sometimes things may pop up that had been previously found but overlooked. Dave Buckingham did most of the 3-glider collisions, and saved many that produced various sparks, but didn't save most that produced small 2-object constellations, as he didn't consider those interesting.)

Entity Valkyrie
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I made a new simkin glider gun breeder. is this known?

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x = 411, y = 751, rule = B3/S23
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$310bo3$198b2o5b2o$198b2o5b2o2$183b2o17b2o$184b2o16b2o$183bo12$172b3o$
174bo$173bo$284b2o$283b2o$285bo6$208b2o$209b2o$208bo12$197b3o$199bo$
198bo$259b2o$258b2o$260bo3$198b2o5b2o$198b2o5b2o25bo$231bo$202b2o27b3o$202b2o4$211b2o$210b3o$209b3obo$208b3obo9b2o$209b4o9b2o$210b2o4$222b3o$224bo$223bo$234b2o$233b2o$235bo!


Jerdle
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This can't be new: The Blanker.

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x = 146, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
134b2o5bo2bo$133b4o8bo$133b2ob2o3bo3bo$135b2o5b4o3$138bobo$136b2o3bo$b
6o120bo8b3obob2o$o5bo129b3o4bo$6bo115b2o15bo3bo$o4bo115bo7bo10b3o$2b2o
117bo3bobobo10bo$122b3o$3bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo27bo2bo$3b o9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo31bo$3bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo27bo3bo$119bo22b4o$117bo3bo$122bo$117bo4bo$118b5o!  A c/2 blinker puffer not mentioned on LifeWiki. Ecologist + MWSS. Using the same technology: Bamber (Monty Python reference). Code: Select all x = 29, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 17b2o5bo2bo$16b4o8bo$16b2ob2o3bo3bo$18b2o5b4o4$16b2o$15b2o7b3o$16bo2bo 6bo$17bo6bobo$19b2o3b2o$2b2o$3bo$3b3o18bo2bo$28bo$24bo3bo$2b2o21b4o$o
7b2o5bo$8bo$8bobo$9b2o! Also works on honey farm and Pi explosions, but I haven't figured out anything useful to do with it. Tanner Jacobi Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1480 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Kazyan wrote:New reasonably-general catalyst: Code: Select all x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 7bo$7b3o$10bo$5b5obo$4bo4bobo$5b3obo2b2o$7bo2bobobo$8bobobo2bo$9bo3bob o$10b2obob2o$bo4bo5bobo$2o3bobo2b2o2bo$bo4bo4bobob2o$7b4o2bobo$13bobo$
7b2o5bo$8bo$8bobo$9b2o! That's a nice catalyst! The stator can be reduced: Code: Select all x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 10bo$8b3o$7bo$5b3ob2o$4bo4bobo$5b3obo2bo$7bo2bobo$8bobobobo$9bo3bobo$
10b2obo2bo$bo4bo5bobobo$2o3bobo2b2o2b2o$bo4bo4bobo$7b4o2bo$13b2o$7b2o$8bo$8bobo$9b2o! The eater at the bottom can be replaced with a snake or carrier, but that reduces the clearance near the reaction area. As with any new honey farm catalyst, there is a remote possibility that it can be used to make new oscillators similar to these found by Scorbie: Code: Select all x = 66, y = 187, rule = B3/S23 41b2o$41b2o2$b2o5b2obo35bo$2bo5bob2o29bo4bobo$bo4b2o32bobo4bo$b2o3bo
32bo3bo$7bo19b2o10bo3bo$b2o3b2o20bo10bo3bo$2bo5b2obo16bobo3bo5bobo2b2o$bo6bob2o17b2o2bobo5bo3bobo$b2o3b2o4b2o18bo3bo10bo$6bo5bo19bo3bo10b2o$b2o4bo5bo18bo3bo$2bo3b2o4b2o14bo4bobo$bo6b2obo15bobo4bo$b2o5bob2o16bo
2$33b2o$33b2o23$35b2o6bo$3b2obo5b2o21bo6bobo$3bob2o6bo13b2o3b2obo7bo$
7b2o3bo14bo4bobo13b3o$7bo4b2o14b3obo14bo3bo$8bo21bob2o12bo5bo$7b2o3b2o 21b3o8bo5bo$3b2obo6bo20bo3bo7bo5bo$3bob2o5bo20bo5bo7bo3bo$b2o9b2o19bo
5bo8b3o$bo31bo5bo12b2obo$2bo9b2o20bo3bo14bob3o$b2o10bo21b3o13bobo4bo$
3b2obo5bo29bo7bob2o3b2o$3bob2o5b2o27bobo6bo$42bo6b2o22$54b2o$54bobo$56bo$52b4ob2o$b2obo6b2obo19bo17bo2bobobo$bob2o6bob2o19b3o20bobo$5b2o2b 2o4b2o20bo19bo2b2o$5bo3bo5bo20b2o18b2o4bo$6bo3bo5bo41b5o$5b2o2b2o4b2o
35b3o3bo4b2o$b2obo4bo5bo22b3o10bo3bo5b2o2bo$bob2o5bo5bo20bo3bo8bo5bo5b
ob2o$5b2o2b2o4b2o13b2o4bo5bo7bo5bo5bo$5bo3bo5bo14bo5bo5bo7bo5bo4b2o$6b o3bo5bo10b2obo5bo5bo8bo3bo$5b2o2b2o4b2o10bo2b2o5bo3bo10b3o$b2obo6b2obo 13b2o4bo3b3o$bob2o6bob2o15b5o$30bo4b2o18b2o$31b2o2bo19bo$33bobo20b3o$
33bobobo2bo17bo$34b2ob4o$36bo$36bobo$37b2o19$b2obo6b2obo32b2o$bob2o6bo
b2o23bo7bobo$5b2o2b2o25b3o8bo$5bo3bo25bo$6bo3bo24b2o$5b2o2b2o32b3o$b2o bo6b2obo27bo3bo$bob2o6bob2o17b3o6bo5bob2o$5b2o8b2o10b2o2bo3bo6bo3bo2b 2o$5bo9bo11b2obo5bo6b3o$6bo9bo14bo3bo$5b2o8b2o15b3o$b2obo6b2obo26b2o$b
ob2o6bob2o27bo$30bo8b3o$29bobo7bo$29b2o16$52b2o$52bobo$54bo2b2o$38b2o 13b2obobo$39bo16bo$39bobo11b4o$40b2o11bo3b2o$54b3o2bo$2o3b2o4b2obo41bo
b2o$2o3b2o4bob2o19bo21bo$9b2o23b3o18b2o$2o3b2o2bo27bo8b3o$obobobo3bo
19b2o4b2o7bo3bo$2bobo4b2o20bo12bo5bo$b2obo6b2obo16bobo4b3o3bo5bo$5b2o 4bob2o17b2o3bo3bo2bo5bo$6bo8b2o19bo5bo2bo3bo3b2o$5bo9bo20bo5bo3b3o4bob o$5b2o9bo19bo5bo12bo$6bo8b2o20bo3bo7b2o4b2o$5bo5b2obo23b3o8bo$5b2o4bob 2o15b2o18b3o$30bo21bo$27b2obo$27bo2b3o$28b2o3bo11b2o$30b4o11bobo$30bo 16bo$28bobob2o13b2o$28b2o2bo$32bobo$33b2o! -Matthias Merzenich mniemiec Posts: 1055 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Sokwe wrote:As with any new honey farm catalyst, there is a remote possibility that it can be used to make new oscillators similar to these found by Scorbie: ... Where were these posted? (I see some mentioned here: http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic. ... =75#p26587) Here are trivial syntheses for the 44p16 (22 gliders; ought to be 18-20), 60p21 (32), 44p35 (16). Code: Select all x = 194, y = 172, rule = B3/S23 128bobo$129boo$129bo$141bobo$134bo6boo$133bo8bo$75bo57b3o$75bobo$71bo 3boo$72boo54bo47boo$71boo53bobo4bo42boo$68bo58boo5boo$66bobo64boo36bo$
67boo31bo39bo29bobo$99bobo22bo14bobo29bo4bo$4bo94boo23boo13boo34bobbo$4bobo43boo28boo28boo11bobo24boo23bobbo11boo$o3boo44bo29bo29bo39bo25bob
o11bo$boo17boo10boo14bobo11boo14bobo11boo14bobo21boo14bobo21boo14bobo$
oo17boo10bobo14boo11bobo14boo11bobo14boo21bobo14boo21bobo14boo$16boo3b o9bo29bo29bo39bo39bo11bobo$15bobo12boo28boo28boo38boo24bobo11boo11bobb
o$17bo83boo38boo13boo25bobbo$100bobo37bobo14bo27bo4bo$73boo26bo39bo47b obo$73bobo71boo41bo$73bo72boo5boo$69boo77bo4bobo28boo$68boo83bo30boo$
65boo3bo$64bobo$66bo79b3o$139bo8bo$139boo6bo$138bobo$152bo$151boo$151b
obo6$13bobo$14boo$14bo$20bobo$20boo123bo$21bo85bobo35bobo$70boo36boo 10boo23boo23boo$70bo37bo11bo8bobo38bo$18bo48boobo46boobo9boo35boobo$
17bo49bobo37b3o7bobo10bo13bobo20bobo$17b3o48bo40bo8bo25boo18boobo$108b
o36bo17boboboo$15b3o146bo$17bo21bo$16bo21bo$38b3o150bo$110bo36bo39boob obo$36b3o48bo22boo25bo8bo41boboo$38bo47bobo20bobo13bo10bobo7b3o37bobo$
37bo47boboo35boo9boboo46boboo$85bo38bobo8bo11bo37bo$84boo23boo23boo10b
oo36boo$34bo73bobo35bobo$34boo74bo$33bobo$41bo$40boo$40bobo11$122bo$
123bo3bo$15bo105b3oboo5bobo$14bo111boo4boo$14b3o116bo$$10bo11boo115bo 10boo8boo48boo48boo7boo39boo6bo20bo49bo49bo7boo10bobo27bo6bobo17boo bo41boo3boobo41boo3boobo19boo20boo3boobo7bo17bobo20bobo19bo4bobo42bo 4bobo21bo20bo4bobo14boobo23boo20b3obo45b3obo45b3obo16boo13boboboo22b o6bobo14boboo46boboo46boboo14bobbo14bo29bo3boo133b3o10boo33boobbo 134bo6bobboo33boo125bo6boo3bo29bo128b3o5bobo6bo22boobobo44boobo46b oobo28bobbo14boobo13boo23boboo46bob3o45bob3o27boo16bob3o13bobo20bobo 47bobo4bo20bo21bobo4bo42bobo4bo35boboo46boboo3boo20boo19boboo3boo33bo 7boboo3boo35bo49bo27bobo10boo7bo40bobo6bo34boo8boo38boo39boo7boo41bo 6boo43boo82bo45bo$$39b3o80bo$41bo80boo4boo$40bo80bobo5boob3o$128bo3b
o$133bo11$113bo$111bobo$112boo3$115bo$113bobo10bo$114boo10bobo$126boo
6$26bo$25bo$25b3o121bo20boo$23bo8bobo45bo32bo16bo18bobo18bobo7bo$24bo 7boo46b3o28bobo16b3o7bobo6boo20bo8b3o$22b3o8bo39boo8bo28boo9boo8bo6boo
41bo$73boo7boo39boo7boo7bo40boo$34b3o136b3o$34bo137bo3bo$35bo132boobo
5bo6b3o$168boobbo3bo6bo3bobboo$24bo148b3o6bo5boboo$25bo157bo3bo$23b3o
158b3o$76boo7boo31bo7boo7boo39boo$26bo8b3o38bo8boo31boo6bo8boo9boo28bo
$26boo7bo41b3o29boo6bobo7b3o16bobo28b3o8bo$25bobo8bo42bo28bobo18bo16bo
32bo7bobo$32b3o75bo77boo$34bo$33bo6$132boo$131bobo10boo$133bo10bobo$144bo3$146boo$146bobo$146bo!


Sokwe
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mniemiec wrote:
Sokwe wrote:As with any new honey farm catalyst, there is a remote possibility that it can be used to make new oscillators similar to these found by Scorbie: ...
Where were these posted?
Some of these can be reduced slightly from their original form, as can be seen in the collection that you linked to. For example, half of the p30 can be replaced by unix:

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x = 29, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17bobo$19bo$15b4ob2o$15bo2bobobo$20bobo$2b2o16bo2b2o$b4o14b2o4bo$obo2bo15b5o$2o2bobo8b3o3bo4b2o$5bobo6bo3bo5b2o2bo$7b2o4bo5bo5bob2o$6b
3o4bo5bo5bo$5bobo5bo5bo4b2o$5b2o7bo3bo$15b3o3$18b2o$18bo$19b3o$21bo! Scorbie only searched for oscillators supported by stable catalysts. If we use sparks as well it limits the periods we can get, but it may allow us to find interesting new oscillators. I'm especially hopeful that a gun can be found by starting with this simple reaction: Code: Select all x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10bo$2b3o3bobo$bo3bo2b2o$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo$bo3bo$2b3o! Scorbie tried this but was unable to find any guns (the p35 and p45 oscillators were the result of that search). Hopefully adding sparks will allow a gun to emerge. Unfortunately, I don't know of any programs that test rotationally symmetric spark catalysis. -Matthias Merzenich Saka Posts: 3138 Joined: June 19th, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: In the kingdom of Sultan Hamengkubuwono X ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Sokwe wrote:I'm especially hopeful that a gun can be found by starting with this simple reaction: Code: Select all x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 10b2o$10bo$2b3o3bobo$bo3bo2b2o$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo$bo3bo$2b3o! That's the AK-94 reaction Credit: M.I. Wright Airy Clave White It Nay Code: Select all x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Sokwe
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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$2b3o3bobo$bo3bo2b2o$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo$bo3bo$2b3o!