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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by AforAmpere » March 14th, 2018, 7:44 pm

wildmyron wrote:Nevertheless, here's the first 2c/5 orthogonal ship I have found in this rule (making good use of the above fuse):

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2c/5 ship
Nice! That is smaller than I thought it would be to be honest. I can't find any frontends for C/2, but I have no proof that they are impossible yet. Is there some way to prove it?
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by BlinkerSpawn » March 14th, 2018, 8:21 pm

AforAmpere wrote:
wildmyron wrote:Nevertheless, here's the first 2c/5 orthogonal ship I have found in this rule (making good use of the above fuse):

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2c/5 ship
Nice! That is smaller than I thought it would be to be honest. I can't find any frontends for C/2, but I have no proof that they are impossible yet. Is there some way to prove it?
Let's assume symmetry for simplicity.
The width of the leading edge of a c/2 engine alternates either between 1 and 3 or between 2 and 4.
Regardless of which, the only possibility that allows the center to survive and contribute to the next advancement is one bit followed by one bit:

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.o. 
.o.
Since the leading bit must remain alive to become the trailing bit 2 generations later, all four dots must experience birth and the trailing bit must survive to give S5.
But ensuring the front tip's survival via S1 leaves only three undeclared neighbors for the trailing which cannot be on since S234 isn't there.
We have two options for our frontend:

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...o...        ..ooo..
.o.o.o.        o.ooo.o
oo...oo

...o...        ..ooo..
.o.o.o.        .ooooo.
??...??
(exactly one of the ?'s on each side is ON)

It looks improbable that c/2 exists.
When I started writing this post I thought maybe I'd end up with an argument that could be extended inductively into an interminable ribbon (similar to infinite lines in GoL needed for lightspeed) but I'm not sure if anything concrete is reachable from there now.
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by wildmyron » March 14th, 2018, 11:42 pm

The options available for a p2 c/2 engine are probably covered by the two examples in B3478/S1568 and B3478/S1578 I posted earlier. They fit nicely with this consideration (for the odd symmetry case) and obviously one doesn't work with S6 and the other doesn't work with S7. @BlinkerSpawn: I suspect you're probably not too far off a proof that there's no p2 c/2 engine. But what about higher period engines? p4 and p6 look similarly unlikely as those searches finish pretty quickly too. Can anything be said about the existence of higher period c/2 engines if we know that p2 c/2 engines don't exist?
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by wildmyron » March 20th, 2018, 1:53 am

Here are some vaguely promising leads on 4c/8 which at the very least show that there's no simple proof of their non-existence.

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x = 44, y = 31, rule = B3478/S15678
3bo$3bo28bobo$3b2o28b2o$4b2o28b2o$4b3o28bo$35b3o$3b3o2bo24bobobo$bob2o
2b4o20bob3o2b2o$bo2bobo24bo2bobo6bo$bo3b2o24bo3b2o2b4o$2b2o2b2o2b3o19b
2o2b2o$3b4o26b4o5bo$3b3o27b3o$4b2o28b2o$2bo29bo$obo27bobo$2bo29bo$4b2o
28b2o$3b3o27b3o$3b4o26b4o5bo$2b2o2b2o2b3o19b2o2b2o$bo3b2o24bo3b2o2b4o$
bo2bobo24bo2bobo6bo$bob2o2b4o20bob3o2b2o$3b3o2bo24bobobo$35b3o$4b3o28b
o$4b2o28b2o$3b2o28b2o$3bo28bobo$3bo!
The idea is to find a wing shaped ship with a symmetrical leading edge that is supported by long wings. I'm not sure yet if this is feasible, but it's a start.
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by moony » April 12th, 2018, 2:03 pm

Does this rule have an actual name yet?
Just curious.

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by Majestas32 » April 12th, 2018, 2:48 pm

Hi moony
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by 77topaz » April 12th, 2018, 4:25 pm

Majestas32 wrote:Hi moony search b2e3-ajs23
...That's completely irrelevant to this thread, Majestas, which is about B3478/S15678. It's borderline spam.

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by Saka » April 12th, 2018, 7:31 pm

moony wrote:Does this rule have an actual name yet?
Just curious.
It's just called B3478/S15678 for now

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by LaundryPizza03 » May 20th, 2021, 4:21 am

Bump. The 2c/5o can be trivially reduced slightly, to a minpop of 2941:

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x = 293, y = 40, rule = B3478/S15678
85b4o$83b3ob2o2bo$82b2o2b4ob2o2bo$23bo10bobo7bo37b8ob2ob2o20bo28bo3b2o
2bo17b3o10bob2o14bo23b3o23bo$5b3obobo13b3o5bo10b3ob2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2bo3bo5b3o3bob2obo5b2o9bob2o22b2o4b4o2bobo7bo2b2o4bo3bo7bo2bo
14bo24bobo21bobo2bo$4b2obob3o6b2o3b3o2b3ob4obo2bo2b4o2b27ob2obo4b3obob
4o3bob4o9b4o5b2o12bo2bo2b2o2b5o3bo5b2ob5obob2o4bo2b2ob2o4bo3b3ob2ob2o
3bo16b2ob5o5b2o11bo6b2obo6bo$3b3obo3bo4bob9o5bob2o3bo9b28o4b3o4b2o5bo
3bobo8b3o2b3o7bob3obobobo2bobo5b4o3b15obo2bobo2b4ob2o2bobo3bo6bo4bobo
13bo4bob2o7bo10bo3bobobo3bo3b2o2bo5bo8b2o$3bob3obo5b2ob9o11b4ob2obo2b
3obob5obob16o4bo2b2ob2o5bo5bo2b2o8b2ob2o3b2o2b5o4bo2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b3ob
13o2b4o5b7obo5bob3o3bo2b3obo9b2o4bobob2obo5b2o4b4o3bobo2bob2o2bobo6b2o
3b2o5bo$2b2ob2o7b4o2b6o3bob2o2b9ob4ob2o2bobo2bo8b9o5b2o12bo2b2o3bobo3b
2o2b2obo2b2obobob5o4b2o4b3o4bob18o4b2o2bo2bobo4b4o7bo2bob2obobobobobo
2bobo2bobo2b2o3b3ob2o2b2o2bo5b2o2b2o2b6o3b2o2bo3bo3bo3b5obo$b2o3bo4b2o
b3ob2o2bobob19o2b2obo4b2o2bob2obo2bob2ob4o4b2o14bo2b4ob9obo4bob2o2bo2b
o2bob3o6b4ob2obo3bo2b2ob2obo8bo2b2o5b2ob2obobob4o3b2o3bob4o5b3o2b2ob
19obob2o3b21ob2o2b11obobo$o4b4o3b3ob2obobo3b20obob2o2bo2b2o2bo2bob5obo
5b2o19bo4bob2obo4b2o6bo8b3o2bo3b3o4bo2bo5bo5b2obo7b5o3bo3bob7obo2bo4b
2o2b2obob77obo3bo$4bo4b2o2bo3b2obo3b3ob17ob2o2bo5b2o3bo8bob5obo21bob3o
2b2obobo2bo3b3o3bo2bo7bob4obobo2bo2b2o3bo7bobo2bo16b3o3b2obobo7b2o3b
78obo$bobo16b2o2b2o2b14obo9b2o3bo15bo3b2o21b2o5b3ob2ob4ob2obobo2b2obob
3o2b3o6bo18b2ob2o2bob2o8bo8bobo12bob2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o5bo$bo7bo2bo3bobob4obobob11o6b
3o3b5o2b2o14bo26b2o3bo2bo7b2o4b2obo3bo2bo2bo2b2o28bo16bo$b2o4bo6bobobo
4bo2bobo4bo2b2obobo2bobob4o3bo2b2o9b3o32bo16bo$bo6b2ob2obob2ob3obobo4b
2o4bo4bobo3bobo2b3ob3obobo3b3o3bo$b2obo3bo6b2ob5o2bobo9bo2bo9bob4ob3o
4bo4bob2o$b6obo4bob8o5bo3b4o2bo4b2o3bob2o3bo6b2o4b3o$o6bo8bo5bo2bo6b
10ob2obo2b4o4bo2bo3bob10obo$o3bo12bo3bobobo2bo3b11ob3o2bo13b3o2b7obobo
$o3bo12bo3bobobo2bo3b11ob3o2bo13b3o2b7obo3bo$o6bo8bo5bo2bo6b10ob2obo2b
4o4bo2bo3bob10obo$b6obo4bob8o5bo3b4o2bo4b2o3bob2o3bo6b2o4b3o7bo$b2obo
3bo6b2ob5o2bobo9bo2bo9bob4ob3o4bo4bob2o$bo6b2ob2obob2ob3obobo4b2o4bo4b
obo3bobo2b3ob3obobo3b3o3bo$b2o4bo6bobobo4bo2bobo4bo2b2obobo2bobob4o3bo
2b2o9b3o32bo16bo$bo7bo2bo3bobob4obobob11o6b3o3b5o2b2o14bo26b2o3bo2bo7b
2o4b2obo3bo2bo2bo2b2o28bo16bo$bobo16b2o2b2o2b14obo9b2o3bo15bo3b2o21b2o
5b3ob2ob4ob2obobo2b2obob3o2b3o6bo18b2ob2o2bob2o8bo8bobo12bob2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$4bo4b
2o2bo3b2obo3b3ob17ob2o2bo5b2o3bo8bob5obo21bob3o2b2obobo2bo3b3o3bo2bo7b
ob4obobo2bo2b2o3bo7bobo2bo16b3o3b2obobo7b2o3b78obo$o4b4o3b3ob2obobo3b
20obob2o2bo2b2o2bo2bob5obo5b2o19bo4bob2obo4b2o6bo8b3o2bo3b3o4bo2bo5bo
5b2obo7b5o3bo3bob7obo2bo4b2o2b2obob77obobo$b2o3bo4b2ob3ob2o2bobob19o2b
2obo4b2o2bob2obo2bob2ob4o4b2o14bo2b4ob9obo4bob2o2bo2bo2bob3o6b4ob2obo
3bo2b2ob2obo8bo2b2o5b2ob2obobob4o3b2o3bob4o5b3o2b2ob19obob2o3b21ob2o2b
11obo3bo$2b2ob2o7b4o2b6o3bob2o2b9ob4ob2o2bobo2bo8b9o5b2o12bo2b2o3bobo
3b2o2b2obo2b2obobob5o4b2o4b3o4bob18o4b2o2bo2bobo4b4o7bo2bob2obobobobob
o2bobo2bobo2b2o3b3ob2o2b2o2bo5b2o2b2o2b6o3b2o2bo3bo3bo3b5obo$3bob3obo
5b2ob9o11b4ob2obo2b3obob5obob16o4bo2b2ob2o5bo5bo2b2o8b2ob2o3b2o2b5o4bo
2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b3ob13o2b4o5b7obo5bob3o3bo2b3obo9b2o4bobob2obo5b2o4b4o3b
obo2bob2o2bobo6b2o3b2o5bo6bo$3b3obo3bo4bob9o5bob2o3bo9b28o4b3o4b2o5bo
3bobo8b3o2b3o7bob3obobobo2bobo5b4o3b15obo2bobo2b4ob2o2bobo3bo6bo4bobo
13bo4bob2o7bo10bo3bobobo3bo3b2o2bo5bo8b2o$4b2obob3o6b2o3b3o2b3ob4obo2b
o2b4o2b27ob2obo4b3obob4o3bob4o9b4o5b2o12bo2bo2b2o2b5o3bo5b2ob5obob2o4b
o2b2ob2o4bo3b3ob2ob2o3bo16b2ob5o5b2o11bo6b2obo6bo$5b3obobo13b3o5bo10b
3ob2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo3bo5b3o3bob2obo5b2o9bob2o22b2o4b4o2bob
o7bo2b2o4bo3bo7bo2bo14bo24bobo21bobo2bo$23bo10bobo7bo37b8ob2ob2o20bo
28bo3b2o2bo17b3o10bob2o14bo23b3o23bo$82b2o2b4ob2o2bo$83b3ob2o2bo$85b4o
!
Also a slight lead for a (2,1)c/8:

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3478/S15678
9bo$2bob2obobo$b5o2bo$2b4ob3o$obo3b2obo$4b2obo$2bo4bobo!
I suspect that (2,1)c/6 is possible as well, but would be a bit bigger. Try both in ikpx2.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by FWKnightship » May 23rd, 2021, 10:45 am

P14:

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x = 23, y = 14, rule = B3478/S15678
11bo$9bobobo$8b7o$8b7o$4b15o$4b15o$23o$23o$4b15o$4b15o$8b7o$8b7o$9bobo
bo$11bo!
EDIT:P24:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3478/S15678
5b2o$4b3o$3b5o$2b7o$10o$11o$b10o$2b7o$3b5o$4b3o$4b2o!
P8,P10,P30,P45:

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x = 86, y = 21, rule = B3478/S15678
8bo3bo25b2o20bo2bo15bo2bo$10bo26b4o16bo2b4o2bo$9b3o22bob6obo13b10o11b
6o$6bob5obo19b10o11bob10obo11b2o$6b9o15b2ob12ob2o9b10o9bob6obo$5b11o
14b18o10b8o11b8o$3b15o12b18o9bob6obo10b8o$4b13o13b2ob12ob2o12b4o13b8o$
o2b15o2bo13b10o17b2o13bob6obo$2b17o15bob6obo36b2o$b19o17b4o20b2o15b6o$
2b17o19b2o$o2b15o2bo58bo2bo$4b13o$3b15o$5b11o$6b9o$6bob5obo$9b3o$10bo$
8bo3bo!
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'FWKnightship' object has no attribute 'signature'

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by AforAmpere » May 23rd, 2021, 3:04 pm

10c/25 puffer:

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x = 36, y = 32, rule = B3478/S15678
23b2o2b4o$25b4obo$18bo3b9o$15b3o3bob2o2b2o3bo$16b9o2bob5o$bo9bo3b9ob3o
b2obo$o9bo9b5o5bob3o$17b2o2bob2o4b2o$24bo8bo$19bobo4bo6bo$34bo$24bob2o
2bo4bo$24bobob2obob2o$25b2o5b2o$29b2o2bo$33bo$33bo$29b2o2bo$25b2o5b2o$
24bobob2obob2o$24bob2o2bo4bo$34bo$19bobo4bo6bo$24bo8bo$17b2o2bob2o4b2o
$o9bo9b5o5bob3o$bo9bo3b9ob3ob2obo$16b9o2bob5o$15b3o3bob2o2b2o3bo$18bo
3b9o$25b4obo$23b2o2b4o!
Much smaller 2c/5 ship, found with LSSS:

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x = 23, y = 32, rule = B3478/S15678
10b2o2b4o$12b4obo$obo2bo3b9o$2b3o3bob2o2b2o3bo$2b10o2bob5o$o2b8ob3ob2o
bo$7b5o5bob3o$4b2o2bob2o4b2o$11bo8bo$6bobo4bo6bo$21bo$11bob2o2bo4bo$
11bobob2obob2o$12b2o5b2o$16b2o2bo$20bo$20bo$16b2o2bo$12b2o5b2o$11bobob
2obob2o$11bob2o2bo4bo$21bo$6bobo4bo6bo$11bo8bo$4b2o2bob2o4b2o$7b5o5bob
3o$o2b8ob3ob2obo$2b10o2bob5o$2b3o3bob2o2b2o3bo$obo2bo3b9o$12b4obo$10b
2o2b4o!
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by iNoMed » May 23rd, 2021, 3:33 pm

Inspired by the smaller 2c/5o found by Ampere, here's a c/8 diagonal:

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x = 23, y = 22, rule = B3478/S15678
15bo2bo$15b3o$11b2ob5obo$11bob3ob2o2bo$10bob3o3bo3bo$10b4o4b2obo$11b2o
4b4o$9b4o2b4o$15b3o$13b2obo$8b2o3b4o$13bo$4bob3ob2o$4b5o$4b3o$ob8o$2b
6o$3b5o$obob4o$3bobo$5bo$3bobo!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by AforAmpere » May 23rd, 2021, 5:00 pm

C/7d:

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x = 99, y = 99, rule = B3478/S15678
93bo$91bo$93bobo$88bo2b3ob2o$85b6ob3o$86bobobob5obo$85b4obob4o$84b5obo
4bobo$83bob4ob5o$83bob2o7bo$80bobobobo3b6o$82bobo5b3obo$79bo6bob7o$82b
4o3b4obo$79bo2b4ob2o2bo$78b2ob5o3b2o$75bob2ob6ob2o$72bo2bo2bob4o$74bob
2ob4o5bo$71b3o4b3o2b2obo$70bob3ob4ob3o$70bob4ob2obobo$68bob4ob2obobo$
74bob2o3b2o$66bob2o2bob2ob2obo$64bo2bo2bobo3b4o$63bobobo5b2ob4obo$64b
2obo2b2o4bo2bo$62b3obobob2obo2b3o$64bobobo5bo$62b2o5b2o3bobo$60b2o3bo
5b3o$60b3o6b2o3bo$58b2o2bo4bo3b2o$61bo7b3obo$56bo11bobobo$57b2o6b2obob
o$55b2obo5bob2o$55bo3bo6b2o$52bo3bo3bo4bo$52bo3bo4b2o2bo$49bob4o2bo4bo
$53b4ob2obobo$51bo2b3o3b2o$48bobo2bob3o$49b2o3bob2o$47bobob2o4b3o$47bo
b4o2bobo$49b3ob2o$43b5o2b4o3bo$42bo3bo7bo$40bo8bob2o$42bobo3b2o$36b3o
3b2o5bo$36b5o5bo2bo$38bo6bo3bo$37b3o5b2obo$35bo$32b2o10bo2bo$30bo4b2o
5bobo$34b2o6b4o$31b2o9bob2o$29b2obo6bo4b2o$29b2obobo3b2obo$28bo2bo3bo
2bo$29b2o9bo$26bo2b4o2b3o2bo$32bobo2bo$26b2obo2b2ob2o2bo$25bobob2ob2ob
2o$24bo3bo5bo$22b2o3bob2o$20b2o2bo5bobo$21b2obo4bo$21b6obo$17b2o2b4o2b
o$19bo2b4obo$16b2o5b4o$16b4o6bo$17bob2obo$10bo2bob4obo2bo$9bo2b3o2b5ob
o$9bobo6bob2o$12bo5bo$8b4obo3bo$8b7o2b2o$5b9obobo$4b11obo$3bob10o3bo$
2bob11ob2o$2b13o$2b11o$3b10o$2b11o$b9obo$b8obo$o2b3ob3o$2ob2o$3o!
EDIT, better:

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x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3478/S15678
42bo2$41b4o$40b3o2b2o$40bo3b3o$40bob4obo$38bo3b3o2bo$36bo5b3ob2obo$35b
ob2o7b2o$34b2ob3o4b3o$34bo5bo$32bobo2bo2b2obo$35b2obob2o$31bo2b2obo4bo
$30b2o2bob2o2b2o$30b2o2b3ob3o$27bo3b3o$26bob6o4bo$25b4o3b5o$27bo4bob2o
$22bo3b2o4bo$22bob3o4b2o$24bo4b3obo$24b2o2b2ob2o$18bobo4b2obo2bo$17bob
ob4ob3o$17b5o2bo$19bobo2bo3b2o$16b4o2b3o$12bob6o3bobo$11bo2bobo3b5o$
11b2o5bob2obobo$8b2ob4o2bo2b2ob2o$8bo4bobo3b3o$8b3o4b2o3bo$10bo6bob2o$
10bobo3b2o$8bo2b3o3b2obo$9b2obo4b3o$8b2obob3o$6bobob2o3bobo$6b2ob2obo
2b3o$4b3obo$3bobob3o$bob5o$3b3obo$obob3o$2b2o$5bo$3bo!
I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. I also wrote EPE, a tool for searching in the INT rulespace.

Things to work on:
- Find (7,1)c/8 and 9c/10 ships in non-B0 INT.
- EPE improvements.

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by iNoMed » May 24th, 2021, 9:10 am

Enormous c/9 diagonal partial, 2 cells off:

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x = 83, y = 83, rule = B3478/S15678
77b2o$76bo2bo$75b2o2b2o$75bob2ob2o$74bob4o2bo$74bo2b3o2bo$71bo6bob2o$
70bob3o4b2o$70b6ob2o$69b7o$67b9o$67b8obo$66b10o$64bob8o$65b8o$65b8o$
61b10o$63b6o$58bob7o2bo$60b7o$58b7obo$59b6obo$57bob6o$58b5o$55bo3bo2bo
bo$52b2o2bo3bo$51bo2b2obo$53b4obo$51b6o$53b3obo$48b3o3bo2bo$46bobo5bob
o$46bo2bo2bo$49b2obo$43b2obo4b2o$45b3o$41bob6ob2o$40bo2b5o$42b5obo$37b
o2bob5obo$37b2obo2b2o$36b4o6bo$34b3obo3b2obo$35bob2o2bo$34b2obob4o$34b
6ob3o$32bob4o2b2o$31bob8o$29bob8obo$30b6o$29b6obo$30b6o$27bob5o$25bob
4obobo$24bob4o$23bob6o$22bo2b4o$21bo2bob2obo$19bo3b3o2bo$22bobo2bo$19b
ob3o2bo$19b4o2bo$18b4o$19b4obo$14bob3obo$12bob3obo$13b6o$12b6o$9bob8o$
10b7o$9b7obo$7b8o$6b8o$7b6obo$6b6o$3bob7o$4b5obo$3ob4o$5b2o$bo5bo$b2o
2bo$b3obo$o4bo!
There's got to be a completion hiding somewhere...

Edit: Alternative 2-cell off partial:

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x = 61, y = 61, rule = B3478/S15678
55b2o$54bo2bo$53b2o2b2o$53bob2ob2o$52bob4o2bo$52bo2b3o2bo$49bo6bob2o$
48bob3o4b2o$48b6ob2o$47b7o$45b9o$45b8obo$44b10o$42bob8o$43b8o$43b8o$
39b10o$41b6o$36bob7o2bo$38b7o$36b7obo$37b6obo$35bob6o$36b5o$33bo3bo2bo
bo$30b2o2bo3bo$29bo2b2obo$31b4obo$29b6o$31b3obo$26b3o3bo2bo$24bobo5bob
o$24bo2bo2bo$27b2obo$21b2obo4b2o$23b3o$19bob6ob2o$18bo2b5o$20b5obo$15b
o2bob5obo$15b2obo2b2o$14b4o6bo$12b3obo3b2obo$13bob2o2bo$12b2obob4o$12b
6ob3o$10bob4o2b2o$9bob8o$7bob8obo$8b6o$7b6obo$8b6o$5bob5o$3bob4obobo$
2bob4o$bob6o$o2b4o$obob2obo$2b2o2bo$o4bo$bob2o!

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by AforAmpere » May 24th, 2021, 12:21 pm

C/10d:

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3478/S15678
6bo2$5b3obo$3b6o$5b6o$5b6o$3bob6o$bobob3ob2o$3b4o$ob2o$bobo$3b2o!
I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. I also wrote EPE, a tool for searching in the INT rulespace.

Things to work on:
- Find (7,1)c/8 and 9c/10 ships in non-B0 INT.
- EPE improvements.

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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by May13 » May 24th, 2021, 10:43 pm

iNoMed wrote:
May 24th, 2021, 9:10 am
Enormous c/9 diagonal partial, 2 cells off:

Code: Select all

x = 83, y = 83, rule = B3478/S15678
77b2o$76bo2bo$75b2o2b2o$75bob2ob2o$74bob4o2bo$74bo2b3o2bo$71bo6bob2o$
70bob3o4b2o$70b6ob2o$69b7o$67b9o$67b8obo$66b10o$64bob8o$65b8o$65b8o$
61b10o$63b6o$58bob7o2bo$60b7o$58b7obo$59b6obo$57bob6o$58b5o$55bo3bo2bo
bo$52b2o2bo3bo$51bo2b2obo$53b4obo$51b6o$53b3obo$48b3o3bo2bo$46bobo5bob
o$46bo2bo2bo$49b2obo$43b2obo4b2o$45b3o$41bob6ob2o$40bo2b5o$42b5obo$37b
o2bob5obo$37b2obo2b2o$36b4o6bo$34b3obo3b2obo$35bob2o2bo$34b2obob4o$34b
6ob3o$32bob4o2b2o$31bob8o$29bob8obo$30b6o$29b6obo$30b6o$27bob5o$25bob
4obobo$24bob4o$23bob6o$22bo2b4o$21bo2bob2obo$19bo3b3o2bo$22bobo2bo$19b
ob3o2bo$19b4o2bo$18b4o$19b4obo$14bob3obo$12bob3obo$13b6o$12b6o$9bob8o$
10b7o$9b7obo$7b8o$6b8o$7b6obo$6b6o$3bob7o$4b5obo$3ob4o$5b2o$bo5bo$b2o
2bo$b3obo$o4bo!
There's got to be a completion hiding somewhere...

Edit: Alternative 2-cell off partial:

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x = 61, y = 61, rule = B3478/S15678
55b2o$54bo2bo$53b2o2b2o$53bob2ob2o$52bob4o2bo$52bo2b3o2bo$49bo6bob2o$
48bob3o4b2o$48b6ob2o$47b7o$45b9o$45b8obo$44b10o$42bob8o$43b8o$43b8o$
39b10o$41b6o$36bob7o2bo$38b7o$36b7obo$37b6obo$35bob6o$36b5o$33bo3bo2bo
bo$30b2o2bo3bo$29bo2b2obo$31b4obo$29b6o$31b3obo$26b3o3bo2bo$24bobo5bob
o$24bo2bo2bo$27b2obo$21b2obo4b2o$23b3o$19bob6ob2o$18bo2b5o$20b5obo$15b
o2bob5obo$15b2obo2b2o$14b4o6bo$12b3obo3b2obo$13bob2o2bo$12b2obob4o$12b
6ob3o$10bob4o2b2o$9bob8o$7bob8obo$8b6o$7b6obo$8b6o$5bob5o$3bob4obobo$
2bob4o$bob6o$o2b4o$obob2obo$2b2o2bo$o4bo$bob2o!
Completed c/9 diagonal spaceship! (via rlifesrc)

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x = 147, y = 147, rule = B3478/S15678
bob2obo$o2b2o$3b2o2bo$5obo$8o$4bo2b3o$o2b2obob2o$2bob2ob6o$5b9o$5b9o$
7b9o$7b8obo$7b9obo$8b10o$10b7ob2o$10bob6o2bo$11bob7obo$12b2ob6obo$14bo
b6obo$14bob7o$15bob6o$16bob5obo$17bob4o$18bo4bo2bo$21bo4b2o$26b2ob2o$
23b6obo$24b5obo$26b7o$25bo2bo2bo2bo$25b4o2bo2b2o$28b4ob3o$28bo7bo$31bo
2bobobo$29b3ob4ob2o$30b2o2b4ob2o$32b7ob2o$35b4obo$33b2ob3ob4o$34b2o3b
2o2b3o$35b5o3b2obo$36bobo3b4o$38bo2b2o3bo$38b4ob4o$39b3ob6o$39bobob5o$
40bob7o2bo$44b7obo$44bob7o$47b5o$47b5obo$46bob5o2bo$47b2o2b4o$50bob4o$
52b6o$51bob6o$54b2o2b3o$54b2o3bo$55b2o3b2o$56b2ob2o$56bob6o$58bob3o$
60b3obo$60bo$62bob5o$64b6o$64b5ob2o$64b6o2bo$64b6o2bo$65bob2o4bo$66bo
4b2o$66bo3b4o2bo$67b2ob6o$69bob5obo$72b2o4bo$72b2o3bo$71bo6bo$73bobob
2obo$74bob6o$78b3o$77b5o$78bobob2o$81bo2bo$81bo2b2o$82b2ob2o$83b2o2bo$
84bo2bo2bo$85b2ob2o2bo$87b8o$87b7obo$86bob7obo$88b8obo$87b9obo$88b9o$
88bob7o$89bob4o$90bo2b2o2b3o$91b2o3b2o$96bo2bo$96bob2obo$100b3o$99b4o$
100b4obob2o$102b3o2b2o$103b6o$102bob5obo$104b6obo$102b9ob2o$102b9o2bo$
106b7obo$105bob7obo$106bo2b5o$107bob7obo$107b2ob6obo$109bo2b3obobo$
110bob2obo2bo$114bo$112b2o4b3o$114b2ob2o$117bob2o$117bob3obo$120b4obo$
121b3o2bo$120b3ob3o$123bo4bo$121bobo$122b2o2b2o$126bob3o$124bo2b2ob3o$
127bo2bo3bo$127b4o$128bo3b2obo$128bo2b3o3b2o$131b2ob5o$129bo3b5o$131bo
b6obo$133b9o$132b9obo$132b2ob6ob2o$136b5o$135b5o2b2obo$136bo4b5o$137b
2ob7o$138bob7o$141b6o$140b6o$142b3obo!
[[ TRACK -1/9 -1/9 ]]
Edit: high-clearance p4 and p5 sparkers:

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x = 296, y = 62, rule = B3478/S15678
10$66bo$28bobo34bo$31b2o33bo$28bob2o32bobo$28bobo4bo28bo2b2o$28b3ob3ob
o27bo3bo$28bob3o31b5o$24bo3bobobo27bo3b2o2bo$28bob3o31b5o$28b3ob3obo
27bo3bo$28bobo4bo28bo2b2o$28bob2o32bobo$31b2o33bo$28bobo34bo$66bo17$
31bo26bo7bo14b2o4bo5bo13bobo33bo$19bobo3bo2b2o3bobobo11bo2b3o3b2o6bo
14b4o2b4obob2o3bo8b3ob2o3bo14bo9b2o19b2o2b2o11bo$13bo2bobo3b2ob3o4b3o
2bo10bobobo3b4o2b5o4b2o8b2o3b2ob6obo4bob3o2b3o3bobobo2b4o2b4o4b4o4bobo
3bo2b3o8bob2ob4o6b2ob3o26bo6b2obobo$13b4obo2bo3b2o3bob2o2bo7b2o3b2ob2o
2bob3o5bo4b2o6bo3b2o2bobo2bo4bobo8bo2bo2bobobo3bo3bob5o5b4obobo3bo6bob
o2bobob2o2b2o3bo2bobo5b3ob3ob4o10bo2bo2bo8bo7b2o21bo19bo6bo$13bo2bobo
3b3o3bobob2o8bo2bo3b5o3b5o7bob2o4bo5b2o4bob2o3b4o2b2o3bo2b2obo5b3obo3b
5o3bobob3o8b2ob4o2bobo8bo4b2obob2ob2o4bo8b2ob3obo2b4o3bo3b2ob2o5b2ob3o
2bo2bo2b4o4b2o2bo2bob2o5bo6bob2obo$12bo8b7o2b5o2b4o2b2o2bob2o3b3ob3ob
2obo6b2o4b2o3b4o3b4o2bobo4bo11b4o4bo2b8obo8bo5bobo3bo4b8o6b2o2bobob3ob
3o2b4o3bob5ob2ob3o3b5o2b2o2b3ob3obob4obob3o2bo2b4obobo2bo3b2o4b3o4b3o$
15bo3b4ob3o5bobo2bo3b3obob2ob2o3bo3b2o2b6ob3o3bo2bo2b2o2b2o5bo3b5obo
11bob3o3bo3bo2bo2b3o2bo3bobo2bobobo2bo3bo2b9o4b7obob2o4b2o10b5o2b5o2bo
b8o3b6o3b2o3b5o3b6o2b4ob2o6b10o$8bo3b2o7bo2b5o2b2obo2b3ob2o2bobo3bo3bo
8b3o5b3o2b2o2b2obo3bo4bob7obo10bob6o2bo3bo2bob3o7b4o14b9o3b10ob5ob2o2b
o2b2o2b13o3b9o3b7ob4ob6o3b6ob8obobob12obo$15bo3b4ob3o5bobo2bo3b3obob2o
b2o3bo3b2o2b6ob3o3bo2bo2b2o2b2o5bo3b5obo11bob3o3bo3bo2bo2b3o2bo3bobo2b
obobo2bo3bo2b9o4b7obob2o4b2o10b5o2b5o2bob8o3b6o3b2o3b5o3b6o2b4ob2o6b
10o$12bo8b7o2b5o2b4o2b2o2bob2o3b3ob3ob2obo6b2o4b2o3b4o3b4o2bobo4bo11b
4o4bo2b8obo8bo5bobo3bo4b8o6b2o2bobob3ob3o2b4o3bob5ob2ob3o3b5o2b2o2b3ob
3obob4obob3o2bo2b4obobo2bo3b2o4b3o4b3o$13bo2bobo3b3o3bobob2o8bo2bo3b5o
3b5o7bob2o4bo5b2o4bob2o3b4o2b2o3bo2b2obo5b3obo3b5o3bobob3o8b2ob4o2bobo
8bo4b2obob2ob2o4bo8b2ob3obo2b4o3bo3b2ob2o5b2ob3o2bo2bo2b4o4b2o2bo2bob
2o5bo6bob2obo$13b4obo2bo3b2o3bob2o2bo7b2o3b2ob2o2bob3o5bo4b2o6bo3b2o2b
obo2bo4bobo8bo2bo2bobobo3bo3bob5o5b4obobo3bo6bobo2bobob2o2b2o3bo2bobo
5b3ob3ob4o10bo2bo2bo8bo7b2o21bo19bo6bo$13bo2bobo3b2ob3o4b3o2bo10bobobo
3b4o2b5o4b2o8b2o3b2ob6obo4bob3o2b3o3bobobo2b4o2b4o4b4o4bobo3bo2b3o8bob
2ob4o6b2ob3o26bo6b2obobo$19bobo3bo2b2o3bobobo11bo2b3o3b2o6bo14b4o2b4ob
ob2o3bo8b3ob2o3bo14bo9b2o19b2o2b2o11bo$31bo26bo7bo14b2o4bo5bo13bobo33b
o!
c/12 diagonal partial:

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x = 37, y = 37, rule = B3478/S15678
bobo$2bo4bo$o$2b2ob2o$b2o3b2o2bo$4b4ob2o$4b4obo$3b4ob3o$7b2ob4o$4bob2o
bo2bo2bo$8bo2b5o$8b3o2b3obo$9b2o2b2o$8bo4b2o2bo$12b3o$12b3obo2bo$12b2o
bo4bo$13bob3obob2o$17b3o2bo$20b2o$16b2o3bo$19bob2o2b2o$19bobobobobo$
20b3o2b2obo$22bob2o3bo$23b3ob2o2bo$25b2obobobo$27b2ob3o$24b3obob3obo$
26bo5bo2bo$26bo5bob2o$26bo2bo4bobo$27b4o2b4o$28bo5b2o$31bo$32b2o$32bo!
[[ TRACK -1/12 -1/12 THEME 0 LOOP 12 ]]
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Re: B3478/S15678

Post by AforAmpere » May 27th, 2021, 2:13 am

(2,1)c/7 partial:

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x = 20, y = 50, rule = B3478/S15678
15bo$14bo2bo$11b4ob3o$11bo4b2o$12bo4b3o$11b2obob2o$9b3o6b2o$9bo3bo$9bo
bo2b2obo$10b3o3b2o$8bob5o$9bo2b2o$14b2o$6bobo2b2o$5bo2bobob3o$4b3obobo
$3b2ob2o5bo$6b2o3b2o$6b2o2b3o$2b4o3bobo$bo2b2o2bo2b3o$b2obob3o2b2o$2b
3ob7o$3bob4o2b2o$3ob7obo$b2ob3o3bobo$6ob2obo$3b2o4bo3bo$3b3o6bo$9b2obo
bo$2bo5bo5bo$2bob4ob2obobo$4b11o$3b4o2b4o$5b3o6bo$10b3o$5bo2bob3o$5bob
4o2bobo$5bobo2bobo$7b4o3b3o$16b2o$11bo$6b3o3b5o$8b2obo5bo$5b6o$9b5o2bo
$7b2o3bo2bo$4bo3b2o2bobo$4bobo6b2o$9bo2b2obo!
I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. I also wrote EPE, a tool for searching in the INT rulespace.

Things to work on:
- Find (7,1)c/8 and 9c/10 ships in non-B0 INT.
- EPE improvements.

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