It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by TWLife » September 27th, 2013, 9:40 pm

Here's a GGG that doesn't use any blocks to stablize

x = 41, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12b2o$7b2o4b2o$2b3o2b2o4b3o$2b3o2b2o4b2o$12b2o$12bo2$2o3b2o13bo$b
5o13bobo$2b3o13bo3bo$3bo15b3o$17b2o3b2o5$8b2o$8b3o$10b2obo3bobo$10bo2b
o3bo17b2o$10b2obo7bo12bobo$8b3o7bo3bo13bo$8b2o11bo$18b2o4$18b3o6b3o$
17bo3bo7bo$16bo5bo5bo$16b2obob2o3$22bo$21b2o2$20bob2o$19bo2b2o$19b4o3$
18b2o3b2o$21bo$18bo5bo$19b2ob2o$20bobo$21bo$21bo2$29bo$27bobo$26bobo$
25bo2bo$26bobo$27bobo$29bo2$20bo$19b3o$18b5o13b3o$17b2o3b2o$36bobo$35b
5o$34b2o3b2o$19b3o12b2o3b2o$19b3o$27b2o$26b3o$23bob2o9bobo$23bo2bo4bo
6bo$23bob2o5bo$26b3o3bo4bo$27b2o5b2o!

what do you think?

And can someone please tell me how to paste the thing inside that box properly??

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Herik Zorneck » September 27th, 2013, 11:10 pm

TWLife wrote:Here's a GGG that doesn't use any blocks to stablize

x = 41, y = 74, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12b2o$7b2o4b2o$2b3o2b2o4b3o$2b3o2b2o4b2o$12b2o$12bo2$2o3b2o13bo$b
5o13bobo$2b3o13bo3bo$3bo15b3o$17b2o3b2o5$8b2o$8b3o$10b2obo3bobo$10bo2b
o3bo17b2o$10b2obo7bo12bobo$8b3o7bo3bo13bo$8b2o11bo$18b2o4$18b3o6b3o$
17bo3bo7bo$16bo5bo5bo$16b2obob2o3$22bo$21b2o2$20bob2o$19bo2b2o$19b4o3$
18b2o3b2o$21bo$18bo5bo$19b2ob2o$20bobo$21bo$21bo2$29bo$27bobo$26bobo$
25bo2bo$26bobo$27bobo$29bo2$20bo$19b3o$18b5o13b3o$17b2o3b2o$36bobo$35b
5o$34b2o3b2o$19b3o12b2o3b2o$19b3o$27b2o$26b3o$23bob2o9bobo$23bo2bo4bo
6bo$23bob2o5bo$26b3o3bo4bo$27b2o5b2o!

what do you think?

And can someone please tell me how to paste the thing inside that box properly??
1- wonderfull pattern !
I tried to do something like this but could not reach that level. congratulations!

2- u have to choose the option "code" in the menu at the top of the screen

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by towerator » September 28th, 2013, 2:26 am

The next step in the shuttles tech would be to fing a p30 GSG (gosper spaceship gun)











I'm wondering... could it exist... with other spaceships?
Could we build a "gosper's sidecar gun"?
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by mniemiec » September 28th, 2013, 1:40 pm

Tropylium wrote: FWIW: the first of these can be made into an actual "non-Gosper gun" by reaching in with a 3rd QB to reflect the glider.
Nice! Not as efficient as the Gosper gun, but still nice.
Tropylium wrote:After toying around with pentadecathlons a bit, here's Non-Gosper Gun #2:
Even better!

I'm sure there are many of these to be found. I don't think anyone has actually taken the time to do a methodical search for them.
Tropylium wrote:Despite the extra PD, this might actually be simpler to construct using slow salvos than a proper Gosper gun?
Why would this be the case? It has all the same components, plus one extra (the pentadecathlon). Or are the shuttles easier to make in this orientation?

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Tropylium » September 28th, 2013, 2:21 pm

Herik Zorneck wrote:I'm wondering if existing other ways for connect the cycle of bee shuttle with some oscillator with cycle occurs in the axis perpendicular in relation to bee shuttles cycle, to do something useful.
I've a working list of ways to stabilize one QB with an oscillator:

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x = 252, y = 238, rule = B3/S23
33bo2bob2obo2bo$32b2o2bo4bo2b2o$33bo2bob2obo2bo4$36b2o2b2o$34b2o6b2o$
34b2o6b2o$34bo2bo2bo2bo$35b2o4b2o8$43b2o3b2o$45b3o$44bo3bo$45bobo$46bo
2$48b2o$48bo$49b3o$51bo9$37bo19bo19b3o57b3o$37bo18bobo18b3o5bo10bo19b
3o19bo6b2o$43b3o18bo13bo5bobo8b3o19bo6b2o12bo5b2obo$37bo25b3o12bo4bo3b
o14b3o12bo5b2obo10b3o3bo3bo$36bobo3bo3bo9b3o3bobobo11bo4bobobo14b2obo
10b3o3bo3bo16b4o$43b3o10b3o4bobo11bobo15b3o3bo3bo16b4o11b3o4b2o$36b3o
18bo43bo2bo11b3o4b2o12b3o4b2o$95bobo18b3o4b2o18b4o$77bobo15bobo24b4o
11b3o3bo3bo$36b3o18bo20bo4bobobo13bo2bo11b3o3bo3bo11bo5b2obo$43b3o10b
3o4bobo12bo4bo3bo7b3o3bo3bo11bo5b2obo11bo6b2o$36bobo3bo3bo9b3o3bobobo
11bo5bobo15b2obo11bo6b2o11b3o$37bo25b3o11b3o5bo16b3o11b3o$43b3o18bo12b
3o15b3o$37bo18bobo37bo$37bo19bo7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o
13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3b
o15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$45bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$46bo19bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo19bo
19bo$49b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$245bo$
203b3o39bo$83bo19b3o18b3o16bo22bo57b3o17b3o$44bo17bo20bo58b3o20b3o14b
3o17bo3bo17b3o$43b3o16bo19b3o17bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo16bo
3bo18bo$61b3o38bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo39bo18b3o$142b3o20b
3o14b3o18b3o19bo19bo$43b3o36b3o18b3o18b3o16bo22bo57bobo18bo$61b3o19bo
161bo$43bobo16bo20bo119b3o39bo$43bobo16bo20bo19b3o18b3o16bo22bo57bobo
17b3o$62bo20bo58b3o20b3o14b3o17bo3bo18bo$43b3o16bo19b3o17bo3bo16bo3bo
13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo16bo3bo18bo$61b3o38bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo
12bo3bo39bo18b3o$142b3o20b3o14b3o18b3o18b3o18bo$43b3o36b3o18b3o18b3o
16bo22bo57b3o18bo$44bo16b3o19bo$62bo20bo$62bo7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o
3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b
2o3b2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo
15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo
$45bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$
46bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b
2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo
19bo19bo$49b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo8$123b2o6b2o$122bo2bo4bo2bo$
92bo2bo4bo2bo18bo2bo4bo2bo$61bo2bo4bo2bo17b3o2b6o2b3o16bo2bo4bo2bo$30b
o2bob2obo2bo17b3o2b6o2b3o17bo2bo4bo2bo19b2o6b2o$29b2o2bo4bo2b2o18bo2bo
4bo2bo$30bo2bob2obo2bo7$43b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o$45b3o27b
3o27b3o27b3o$44bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo$45bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo$46b
o29bo29bo29bo2$48b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o$48bo29bo29bo29bo$49b3o27b3o27b3o
27b3o$51bo29bo29bo29bo6$43b6o13b8o12bo4bo13bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$17bo2b
2o4b2o2bo11bo6bo12bob4obo10b2ob4ob2o7b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo2bo2bob
2o$8o8bo3b3o2b3o3bo9bo8bo11b8o12bo4bo13bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$ob4obo9bo
2b2o4b2o2bo11bo6bo$8o35b6o11$3b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o
3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o$5b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$4bo3bo15bo3b
o15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$5bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bo
bo17bobo$6bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo2$8b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b
2o$8bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$9b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$11bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo4$39b2o18b2o$37bo2bo17bobo37b2o$57b3o16bo2bo
17b4o$57b2o20bo16bobo2bo$37b2obo17bobo14bo4bo15b2o2bobo$39bobo2b2o13bo
bo2b2o9b2o2bobo19bobo$40bo4bo14bo2bobo14bob2o19b2o$41bo19b4o37b3o$41bo
2bo17b2o37bobo$80bo2bo17b2o$80b2o7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b
2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$45bobo17bobo17bob
o17bobo$46bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo$49b3o
17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo19bo19bo19bo7$46b2o$45b4o$41bo2bob2obo2bo$41b4o4b
4o$45bo2bo$43b3o2b3o$42bo3b2o3bo$42b2ob4ob2o$46b2o$42b4o2b4o$41bo3bo2b
o3bo$42b3o4b3o$44bob2obo$45b4o$46b2o10$43b2o3b2o$45b3o$44bo3bo$45bobo$
46bo2$48b2o$48bo$49b3o$51bo!
(Fumarole and caterer/jam do not work.)

There are probably also some oscillator + eater stabilizations.
mniemiec wrote:
Tropylium wrote:Despite the extra PD, this might actually be simpler to construct using slow salvos than a proper Gosper gun?
Why would this be the case? It has all the same components, plus one extra (the pentadecathlon). Or are the shuttles easier to make in this orientation?
Because there's no need to synchronize gliders. All GGG syntheses I've seen require a final step where the two QBs are created simultaneously (well, a temporary eater could be used to keep one stabilized, but that would just as well have to be deleted synchronously with creating the 2nd). Here it's possible to first create the PD, then one QB, then another QB.

I'm unsure on if this would provide enough overhang to offset the cost of the PD though. Perhaps not.

(Also maybe "cheaper" would have been a better term than "simpler".)

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by mniemiec » September 28th, 2013, 3:01 pm

Tropylium wrote:I've a working list of ways to stabilize one QB with an oscillator:
I'm not sure how useful most of these would be, but the ones where a pentadecathlon hits a turning shuttle on the side look like they could provide a shuttle with a narrower profile, something that could be extremely useful in some cases.
Tropylium wrote:
mniemiec wrote:
Tropylium wrote:Despite the extra PD, this might actually be simpler to construct using slow salvos than a proper Gosper gun?
Why would this be the case? It has all the same components, plus one extra (the pentadecathlon). Or are the shuttles easier to make in this orientation?
Because there's no need to synchronize gliders. All GGG syntheses I've seen require a final step where the two QBs are created simultaneously (well, a temporary eater could be used to keep one stabilized, but that would just as well have to be deleted synchronously with creating the 2nd). Here it's possible to first create the PD, then one QB, then another QB.

I'm unsure on if this would provide enough overhang to offset the cost of the PD though. Perhaps not.
Perhaps a synthesis that makes queen-bee-plus-block might be useful instead. There are several ways of creating those from gliders, although I'm not familiar with slow salvos to know if any exist that way. If there are, you could make the top block, then add a queen-bee-and-block, then the bottom block, then add the second queen bee while simultaneously removing the temporary restraining block.

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Herik Zorneck » September 28th, 2013, 5:36 pm

Tropylium wrote:
Herik Zorneck wrote:I'm wondering if existing other ways for connect the cycle of bee shuttle with some oscillator with cycle occurs in the axis perpendicular in relation to bee shuttles cycle, to do something useful.
I've a working list of ways to stabilize one QB with an oscillator:

Code: Select all

x = 252, y = 238, rule = B3/S23
33bo2bob2obo2bo$32b2o2bo4bo2b2o$33bo2bob2obo2bo4$36b2o2b2o$34b2o6b2o$
34b2o6b2o$34bo2bo2bo2bo$35b2o4b2o8$43b2o3b2o$45b3o$44bo3bo$45bobo$46bo
2$48b2o$48bo$49b3o$51bo9$37bo19bo19b3o57b3o$37bo18bobo18b3o5bo10bo19b
3o19bo6b2o$43b3o18bo13bo5bobo8b3o19bo6b2o12bo5b2obo$37bo25b3o12bo4bo3b
o14b3o12bo5b2obo10b3o3bo3bo$36bobo3bo3bo9b3o3bobobo11bo4bobobo14b2obo
10b3o3bo3bo16b4o$43b3o10b3o4bobo11bobo15b3o3bo3bo16b4o11b3o4b2o$36b3o
18bo43bo2bo11b3o4b2o12b3o4b2o$95bobo18b3o4b2o18b4o$77bobo15bobo24b4o
11b3o3bo3bo$36b3o18bo20bo4bobobo13bo2bo11b3o3bo3bo11bo5b2obo$43b3o10b
3o4bobo12bo4bo3bo7b3o3bo3bo11bo5b2obo11bo6b2o$36bobo3bo3bo9b3o3bobobo
11bo5bobo15b2obo11bo6b2o11b3o$37bo25b3o11b3o5bo16b3o11b3o$43b3o18bo12b
3o15b3o$37bo18bobo37bo$37bo19bo7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o
13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3b
o15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$45bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$46bo19bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo19bo
19bo$49b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo6$245bo$
203b3o39bo$83bo19b3o18b3o16bo22bo57b3o17b3o$44bo17bo20bo58b3o20b3o14b
3o17bo3bo17b3o$43b3o16bo19b3o17bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo16bo
3bo18bo$61b3o38bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo39bo18b3o$142b3o20b
3o14b3o18b3o19bo19bo$43b3o36b3o18b3o18b3o16bo22bo57bobo18bo$61b3o19bo
161bo$43bobo16bo20bo119b3o39bo$43bobo16bo20bo19b3o18b3o16bo22bo57bobo
17b3o$62bo20bo58b3o20b3o14b3o17bo3bo18bo$43b3o16bo19b3o17bo3bo16bo3bo
13bobobo18bobobo12bo3bo16bo3bo18bo$61b3o38bo3bo16bo3bo13bobobo18bobobo
12bo3bo39bo18b3o$142b3o20b3o14b3o18b3o18b3o18bo$43b3o36b3o18b3o18b3o
16bo22bo57b3o18bo$44bo16b3o19bo$62bo20bo$62bo7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o
3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b
2o3b2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo
15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo
$45bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$
46bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b
2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo
19bo19bo$49b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo8$123b2o6b2o$122bo2bo4bo2bo$
92bo2bo4bo2bo18bo2bo4bo2bo$61bo2bo4bo2bo17b3o2b6o2b3o16bo2bo4bo2bo$30b
o2bob2obo2bo17b3o2b6o2b3o17bo2bo4bo2bo19b2o6b2o$29b2o2bo4bo2b2o18bo2bo
4bo2bo$30bo2bob2obo2bo7$43b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o$45b3o27b
3o27b3o27b3o$44bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo25bo3bo$45bobo27bobo27bobo27bobo$46b
o29bo29bo29bo2$48b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o$48bo29bo29bo29bo$49b3o27b3o27b3o
27b3o$51bo29bo29bo29bo6$43b6o13b8o12bo4bo13bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$17bo2b
2o4b2o2bo11bo6bo12bob4obo10b2ob4ob2o7b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo2bo2bob
2o$8o8bo3b3o2b3o3bo9bo8bo11b8o12bo4bo13bobo2bobo13bobo2bobo$ob4obo9bo
2b2o4b2o2bo11bo6bo$8o35b6o11$3b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o
3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o$5b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$4bo3bo15bo3b
o15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$5bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bo
bo17bobo$6bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo2$8b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o18b
2o$8bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$9b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$11bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo4$39b2o18b2o$37bo2bo17bobo37b2o$57b3o16bo2bo
17b4o$57b2o20bo16bobo2bo$37b2obo17bobo14bo4bo15b2o2bobo$39bobo2b2o13bo
bo2b2o9b2o2bobo19bobo$40bo4bo14bo2bobo14bob2o19b2o$41bo19b4o37b3o$41bo
2bo17b2o37bobo$80bo2bo17b2o$80b2o7$43b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b2o13b2o3b
2o$45b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$44bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$45bobo17bobo17bob
o17bobo$46bo19bo19bo19bo2$48b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$48bo19bo19bo19bo$49b3o
17b3o17b3o17b3o$51bo19bo19bo19bo7$46b2o$45b4o$41bo2bob2obo2bo$41b4o4b
4o$45bo2bo$43b3o2b3o$42bo3b2o3bo$42b2ob4ob2o$46b2o$42b4o2b4o$41bo3bo2b
o3bo$42b3o4b3o$44bob2obo$45b4o$46b2o10$43b2o3b2o$45b3o$44bo3bo$45bobo$
46bo2$48b2o$48bo$49b3o$51bo!
(Fumarole and caterer/jam do not work.)
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Herik Zorneck » September 28th, 2013, 9:17 pm

Image

here is another model of pentamachine gun
a true GGG gun model
no unnecessary beehives and without blocks in the stabilization system

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x = 71, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
30bo4bo$28b2ob4ob2o$30bo4bo7$32b3o$32b3o$31bo3bo2$30b2o3b2o14$34b3o$
33bo3bo$32bo5bo30bo$32bo5bo30bo$35bo21bo10bobo$33bo3bo19bobo9bo$29b2o
9b2o18b2o7bo$bo26bo13bo17b2o7bo$bo11bo13bo15bo16b2o7bo$obo8bobo13bo3bo
b2ob2obo3bo13bobo8bobo$bo7b2o16bo15bo13bo11bo$bo7b2o17bo13bo26bo$bo7b
2o18b2o9b2o$bo9bobo19bo3bo$obo10bo21bo$bo30bo5bo$bo30bo5bo$33bo3bo$34b
3o14$34b2o3b2o2$35bo3bo$36b3o$36b3o7$35bo4bo$33b2ob4ob2o$35bo4bo!

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by AwesomeFace » June 13th, 2014, 3:52 pm

I want to comment on this because I recently found a weird way of stabilizing qb shuttles, it uses t-tetromino shuttles, making it a weird form of symbiosis (The pentadecathlons don't need the shuttle)

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x = 44, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
bo5bo25bo8bo$obo3bobo23bobo6bobo$bo3bo3bo4b3o4bobo7bo3bo6bo$6bobo6b2o
4bo3bo6bobo$7bo17bo7bo$21bo4bo$7bo17bo7bo$6bobo6b2o4bo3bo6bobo$bo3bo3b
o4b3o4bobo7bo3bo6bo$obo3bobo23bobo6bobo$bo5bo25bo8bo!

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by hought99 » November 18th, 2014, 10:38 am

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x = 51, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
6$9bo7bo12bo7bo$8bobo5bobo10bobo5bobo$8bo2bo3bo2bo11bo7bo3$12bobo$10bo
5bo$6b3o9b3o9b3o3b3o$10bo5bo$31bo5bo$9b3o3b3o9b3o9b3o$31bo5bo$35bo$24b
o5b3o$24bobo$9bo17b2o7bo2bo$8bobo16b2o8bobo$9bo17b2o9bo$24bobo$24bo!


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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by A for awesome » December 10th, 2014, 4:14 pm

A suicide gun:

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x = 38, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$27bo3bo$26bo5bo3b2o$9bo16bo3bob2o2b2o$7bobo16bo5bo$6bobo18bo3bo$
2o3bo2bo19b2o$2o4bobo$7bobo$9bo2$20bo$19b3o$18b5o$17b2o3b2o4$19b3o$19b
3o3$20b2o$20b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by PHPBB12345 » November 1st, 2016, 7:12 am

A for awesome wrote:A suicide gun:

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x = 38, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$27bo3bo$26bo5bo3b2o$9bo16bo3bob2o2b2o$7bobo16bo5bo$6bobo18bo3bo$
2o3bo2bo19b2o$2o4bobo$7bobo$9bo2$20bo$19b3o$18b5o$17b2o3b2o4$19b3o$19b
3o3$20b2o$20b2o!
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by 2718281828 » July 4th, 2018, 3:52 am

I came up with this gun:

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13b2o6$14bo$13b3o$13b3o2$11b2o3b2o$11b2o3b2o3$13bobo5b2o$12bo2bo
5bo2bo$13bo11bo$25bo6b2o$16b2o7bo6b2o$2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o3bo2bo$5o4b5o7b
2o$2o3bo2bo3b2o!
I did not find it in the thread, I just found these principles:

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x = 196, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
173b2o$173b2o2$73b2o46bo$26bo34b2o10bobo44bobo$24bobo34b2o11b3o$14b2o
6b2o12b2o12b2o6b2o15b3o6b2o$13bo3bo4b2o12b2o12b2o5b3o8bobo3b3o7b2o34b
3o$2b2o8bo5bo3b2o34b2o8b2o3bobo44b3o$2b2o8bo3bob2o4bobo34b2o6bo3b2o46b
o$12bo5bo7bo34b2o$13bo3bo$14b2o51bo53bo50b5o$66bobo51b3o48bob3obo$65bo
3bo50b3o49bo3bo$66b3o98bo5b3o9bo$64b2o3b2o96bobo4bo10bobo$113bo6bobo
32b2o11bobo15bobo4b2o$113bobo5bo3bo29b2o11bo2bo14bo2bo3b2o$102b2o12b2o
6bobo41bobo15bobo$102b2o12b2o4b2o3bo39bobo6bobo6bobo$116b2o4b2o3bo9b2o
28bo9b2o6bo$113bobo6b2o3bo9b2o38bo$113bo10bobo$125bo46b3o$171bo3bo$
171bo3bo$66b2o104b3o$66b2o4$172b3o$171bo3bo$171bo3bo$172b3o!
I think it is known as the reactions are pretty basic. Still, it has slightly smaller bounding box in x-dimension than the standard Gosper glider gun (and all the other ones)

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by KittyTac » July 4th, 2018, 4:32 am

The necroposting is real.

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by 77topaz » July 4th, 2018, 5:28 am

KittyTac wrote:The necroposting is real.
Well, I don't think this particular case is that bad - the thread's last previous post was only from around a year and a half ago. Recently, there was at least one thread "resurrected" that hadn't previously been posted in since 2009...

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Jormungant » July 4th, 2018, 4:39 pm

Well, I did not know that of that these guns with pentadecadons. I was aware of 6 3-queenbee guns, some of which have some interesting uses:

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x = 246, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
15$206b2o$206b2o5$206b3o$206b3o$205bo3bo2$172b2o30b2o3b2o$173bo$173bob
o5b2o$174b2o5bobo$103b2o66bo12bo11bobo$102b2o68bo8bo2bo10bo2bo$104bo
79bo9b2o$97bo83bobo8b2o3bo18bo$97b3o81b2o11b2o19bobo$100bo85bo8bo2bo5b
o9bo3b2o3b2o$99b2o83b2o10bobo4bo10bo3b2o3b2o$111bo73b2o16b3o8bo3b2o$
110b2o65b3o35bobo$110bobo64bo38bo$178bo2$117b2o$20b3o76b2o3b2o11b2o77b
o$20bo79b5o84b2o5bobo$21bo78b2ob2o2b3o72b2o4b2o6b2o$100b2ob2o4bo72b2o
6bo$101b3o4bo$25bobo100b2o$25bo90b3o8bobo$25b2obo87bo9bo6b2o65b2o$27b
3o65bo13bo7bo8bo2bo2bo2bo64bobo$27bo11bo50bo4b4o8bobo16bo6b3o58b2o4bo$
12bo15b2o8bobo49bo5b4o6bobo18bobo5b3o56b2o$9b4o3bob2o17bob2o44b2o9bo2b
o5bo2bo19b2o6bobo$8b4o4bobob2o2b2o10b2ob2o44b2o9b4o6bobo29bo$8bo2bo3b
2obob2o2bobo10bob2o54b4o8bobo28b2o$8b4o3b2o8b3o10bobo8b2o44bo13bo$3b2o
4b4o3b2o8b3o10bo9bobo155b3o$2bobo7bo12b3o23bo155bo$2bo21bobo8bo15b2o
68bo86bo$b2o21b2o7b2ob2o82b3o$119b5o$32bo5bo79b2o3b2o$119b5o$32b2obob
2o80bo3bo77b2o12b2o9b2o$120bobo79bo12bobo7bobo$121bo80bobo4bo5bo8bo$
203b2o3bobo13bo2bo$207bob2o13bo$120b2o84b2ob2o14bobo5b2o$120b2o85bob2o
15b2o5bobo$208bobo24bo$209bo25b2o$34b2o$34b2o!
Only gun in this thread has a new timing for the glider, though many use the glider turner reaction that does not create new timing. So more "compact" reactions can be achieved (though you already can do a lot with a pair of gospel guns), but all I have seen are glider turner reactions, such as:

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x = 77, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
17.4B$18.3B$18.4B15.2A$20.3B13.B2A2B$20.3B14.4B$19.2BA2B14.4B$19.B3AB
13.4B$18.B2AB2AB12.4B$18.3AB3A11.2BA2B$17.B3AB3AB10.2BA2B$17.B3AB3AB
9.2BABA2B$18.3AB3A10.B2AB2AB$18.B2AB2AB10.A5BA$19.B3AB11.3BA3B$19.2BA
2B11.2A3B2A$20.3B12.7B$10.2A4B4.3B13.5B$8.A3BA5B3.B.B.3B2AB5.BA3B$7.A
5BA5B.7BABA3B3.BA2B$6.A2BA3BA5B.6B3A4BAB.4B$6.7BA6B.4B3A4BA6B3.BABA2B
$4.A2B.A3BA13B3A4B2A8BA2BA3B4.B$3.A.2A3.2A4B2.4B.4BABA4B2A10B2A4B.B2A
$3.A15.BABA2.3B2A5B.2B2A4BA3B2A4B2A$2.2A16.B2AB6.4B4.8B2A7B$21.A3B4.
4B7.3BA2BA8B$22.4B2.4B10.BABA2B4.B$23.4BA3B$24.2BA3B$25.B3A$24.6B$23.
8B$22.4B2.4B$21.4B4.4B$20.4B6.4B20.2A$19.A3B8.4B19.A$18.BABA10.7B3.A
5B3.BA.A$17.2B2A12.8BABA6B.B2A$16.4B8.2BA8B2A3BA7B$15.4B7.4B4A5B2A3BA
7B$14.4B7.6B4A4B2A3BA6B$13.4B7.7BA2BA6BABA6B$12.A3B8.7B4A6B.A5B$11.A
3B7.2AB.4B4A6B$10.B3A7.A.AB3.2BA3B2.4B$9.4B8.A14.4B$8.4B8.2A15.4B$7.
4B15.4B2.B.3B.4B$6.4B16.4B.18B$5.4B16.2A5B2A16B$4.4B17.2A5B2A16B$3.4B
19.B.22B$2.4B22.B2A21B$.4B24.2A7B2.13B$4B25.8B6.10B$3B28.7B7.7B$2B28.
10B6.8B$B29.5BA2BA4B2.7B2A$31.3B2A2BAB2A10B2AB$33.A4BAB2A13B.B$33.7B
2A7B2A5B2A$33.2A4BA9B2A5B2A$34.B2AB2A12B.4B$40.2B2.B.3B.B2.4B$37.3B$
32.A2.2A3B$31.A3B2A2B2A$31.A7B2A$32.4AB2.B$32.3B!
So this might help to get my fill my incomplete p30 turner collection, which includes

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x = 666, y = 162, rule = LifeHistory
13$54.3E67.E47.3E47.E197.3E41.D4E142.E3.E2.E$53.E3.E65.ED46.E3.E45.ED
196.E3.E40.E3.E141.ED3.E2.E$57.E64.E.E46.E3.E44.E.E191.E4.E39.E8.E
136.E3.E.E3.D2.D$57.E66.E46.E3.D46.E191.E4.D39.E7.E137.E5.D3.E2.E$46.
2ED2E5.E58.2ED2E4.E46.D3.E46.E189.5E2.2EDE34.5E5.E135.5E3.E3.5E$55.E
68.E46.E3.D46.E191.E4.E3.E35.E6.E138.E5.E6.E$54.E69.E46.E3.E46.E191.E
4.D3.E35.E6.E138.E5.E6.E$53.E70.E46.E3.E46.E196.E3.E41.E145.E6.D$53.
5E64.5E45.3E45.5E195.3E42.E143.5E4.E3$34.A$34.3A276.3B$37.A270.B2.2A
3B$36.2A269.2ABA2BAB2A$307.A4BA2B2A$39.A268.3BAB2.B$38.ABA267.ABA$37.
A3BA249.4B2.B.3B.B2.2B296.A$37.5A249.4B.18B288.3A$36.2A3B2A247.2A5B2A
16B47.ED3E234.A$36.B5AB135.A48.A62.2A5B2A9B2A5B47.E55.A48.A133.2A$36.
2B3A2B135.3A46.3A61.B.14B2A6B41.E5.E55.3A46.3A$36.3BA3B138.A48.A62.B
2A13BA3B2A2B39.E5.E58.A48.A$36.7B137.2A47.2A63.2A7B2.7B2AB2AB36.5E3.
2EDE54.2A47.2A$36.7B137.4B110.8B6.4B2A2BAB38.E9.E$37.5B140.BAB111.7B
7.2BA3BA39.E9.E56.A$36.2BA3B139.B3AB109.10B6.BAB2A3B47.E55.ABA47.B$
37.3B2A139.A3BA109.13B2.3BA3B2A43.3ED55.A3BA45.3A122.2B.B.2B$37.2B3AB
137.AB3ABA109.21B2AB101.B3AB44.2AB2A121.7B$36.3B2A2B133.A3.B5AB38.A3.
2B3.2B62.22B.B94.A3.2A3B2A38.A4.2AB2A121.B5AB$36.2B.BA2B131.3A3.7B36.
3A3.2B.B.2B62.16B2A5B2A91.3A3.7B36.3A3.B5AB120.AB3ABA$35.4BABAB130.A
6.7B35.A6.7B62.16B2A5B2A90.A6.7B35.A6.2A3B2A121.A3BA$35.5B2A2B129.BA
5.7B35.2A5.B5AB63.18B.4B91.2A5.2B.B.2B35.2A5.2B3.2B122.3A23.A$34.11B
126.A2BA5.7B42.AB3ABA70.4B.3B.B2.4B277.A22.3A$34.7B.4B124.A2B8.5B44.A
3BA72.4B15.2A95.2BA46.2A147.A$34.2ABAB2A2.4B122.A3BA7.BA2B2A44.3A74.
4B14.A84.B9.4BAB43.5A146.2A$34.7B3.4B121.2BA2B7.BABAB46.A75.4B2.BABA
2B3.BA.A83.3A8.3ABA44.2B.BA$34.A5BA4.2BAB58.2A19.2A38.A5BA5.B2A3B122.
7BA2BA3B.B2A83.2AB2A7.5B33.3A8.3A2B122.A$35.5B6.2B2A58.A19.A39.A5BA5.
2A5B30.2B3.2B76.A5B.A10B2A4B85.2AB2A6.A6B31.A3BA7.A5B120.BAB3.2B$35.
2AB2A7.2A2B57.A.A4.BA4B4.BA.A39.BA3BAB5.2ABA.2B23.2A5.2B.A.2B74.BABA
5BA8BA3B2A2B36.2A19.2A25.B5AB5.2ABA.2B31.5B7.B2A2.B120.ABA2.3BA$36.BA
10.4B55.2B2A2.BABA6B2.B2A34.2A4.2B3A2B5.B3A4B23.A5.2B3A2B5.2B3.A62.BA
B2A6BA9B2A3B38.A19.A20.2A4.2A3B2A7.2A4B23.2A4.A5BA7.2A4B118.2AB2A2.AB
A$35.4B10.4B53.4B.2BABA10B37.A4.7B4.9B23.A.A2.2B5AB4.4B.BAB60.B2AB2A
9B2A2BA2BA3B39.A.AB4.5BA3.BA.A21.A4.7B8.5B24.A4.2A3B2A8.5B117.A5BA2.
2A$35.4B11.4B52.6BA2BA11B3.3BA2B4.B22.A.A2.7B3.11B23.2A2.B2A3B2A3.A3B
2.ABA60.2BAB2A5B3A2BA2BABA2B42.2AB2.6BABAB.B2A22.A.A2.2B3.2B7.7B23.A.
AB.2B3.2B7.2B3.2B116.3BA3B15.2B.B.2B$34.4B3.B2A3B4.4B55.3BABA10B2.2B
4A4BA4B21.2A3.5B3.4B.2A3B2A27.2B5A4.ABA2.2AB2A57.2AB.BABA7B4A2B49.8BA
3B2AB25.2A3.5B3.2B3.2A3B2A24.2AB2.5B3.B4.2A3B2A116.2A3.2A15.7B$34.8BA
BA4B3.3BD54.4BABA7BD4B4A5BA4B26.4BD2.4B2.3BA3B28.BA3BC4.2A2.A5BA55.A.
AB3.A5B3.B2A4B48.D7BA3B2AB30.B.B.D2.3B3.2A3B2A26.B2.B.B.D2.3B3.ABABAB
A130.2B4.D.B5AB$35.2B2A4B3A5B2.BCDC53.6BA4B2.3D3BA2BA9B2A25.3B3D4B3.A
5BA28.B.ABC2D7.3BA3B55.A19.4B46.3D6BA3B2A32.2B3DA3B4.5A27.B3.2A3DABAB
4.5A131.5B3DAB3ABA$35.BA2BA4B3A4B2.2D2CD52.4B8.5D2B4A7B.B2A25.2B3DCDA
B4.B2AB2AB28.B2.C4D6.2A3B2A54.2A20.4B44.5D6BABAB31.3A3DCD2B5.BABAB30.
ABDC2DCAB6.3A131.A.3B5DA3BA$30.A6.2A4B3A4B2.3DC3D51.3B8.7D2B4A4B4.B
25.2B4D2CD5.2BABA2B28.B.7D5.2B3.2B77.4B42.7D.5BA33.AB4D3C7.3B31.AC5DC
8.A.2B30.2A97.2AB.7D3A$30.3A6.3BABA6B4D.4D50.2B8.4D.4D.3BA2B33.4DBC3D
5.2BA2B28.2B3CD.4D5.5B79.4B40.4D.4D40.C3D.4D6.3A31.DC2D.4D9.B30.2B2A
96.2A.4D.4DA$33.A7.B2A3B.2B4D3.4D49.B8.4D3.4D38.4D2BA4D4.2BA2B29.3DC
3.4D4.2B2.B80.4B38.4D3.4D25.A12.4DB.A4D25.A12.4DB2.4D8.B16.A12.2BAB
84.2A13.4D3.4D$32.2A15.4D5.4D35.A12.B7.4D5.DCDC36.4D2.3A4D4.3B29.3DC
5.4D4.B.B82.4B36.4D5.4D22.3A11.4D2.ABA4D6.B15.3A11.4D3.A.4D22.3A11.D
3B86.A12.4DB4.4D$32.4B12.C3D7.4D33.BA2B.B15.4D7.D2CD34.4D2.A3BA4D4.4B
26.4D7.4D4.4B81.4B34.4D7.4D20.A13.4D2.A3BA4D5.3B12.A13.4D3.ABA.4D6.2B
12.A13.2D2B84.3A12.4D7.4D$26.2A6.3B10.D2CD9.2DCD32.6B14.4D9.C3D32.4D
3.2BA2B.4D5.2A25.4D9.4D5.2A82.4B32.4D9.4D19.2A11.4D3.5A.4D5.2A12.2A
11.4D3.A3BA.4D5.2A12.2A11.3DB85.A13.4D7.A.4D$25.B2A2B3.5B8.DCDC11.2D
2C30.2BA4B13.4D11.4D30.4D3.A5BA.3DC4.A25.4D11.4D4.A84.4B30.4D11.4D16.
4B10.2C2D3.2A3B2A.4D4.A11.4B10.4D4.B3AB2.C3D4.A11.4B10.4D99.4D7.BAB.
4D$26.4B3.5B7.4D13.2CD30.BABA3B12.4D13.4D28.4D4.A5BA2.CDCD4.3A21.4D4.
2B3.2B2.4D4.3A82.4B28.4D13.4D14.3B11.2D2C4.B5AB2.4D4.3A7.3B11.2C2D4.
2AB.B2A2.4D4.3A7.3B11.4D99.3CD8.ABA2.3DC29.2A$24.6B2.7B5.4D15.4D27.8B
11.4D15.4D26.4D5.BA3BAB3.2C2D5.A20.2C2D5.2B3A2B3.4D5.A83.4B26.4D15.4D
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Majestas32 » July 6th, 2018, 12:11 am

Freywa wrote:I deplore the poor spelling on Zorneck's part! :shock:
So this is why they say "freywa mode activated" eh?
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by Majestas32 » July 6th, 2018, 12:15 am

77topaz wrote:
KittyTac wrote:The necroposting is real.
Well, I don't think this particular case is that bad - the thread's last previous post was only from around a year and a half ago. Recently, there was at least one thread "resurrected" that hadn't previously been posted in since 2009...
wait did i do that?
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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by mniemiec » July 6th, 2018, 2:05 am

Majestas32 wrote:wait did i do that?
No. 2718281828 did that first.

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Re: It´s not a Gosper Glider Gun !

Post by dvgrn » July 6th, 2018, 6:12 am

mniemiec wrote:
Majestas32 wrote:wait did i do that?
No. 2718281828 did that first.
Majestas32 wasn't the first to resurrect this thread, but did recently bump thread number 12, without even bothering to give a reason, let alone add anything new. A couple of people have used the reporting system to point out that post, so it seems to have caused some irritation.

Of course, a (double) post outside the Sandbox saying nothing but "wait did i do that" also seems to warrant a good tap with a clue stick.

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