ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

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ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 2nd, 2018, 11:11 pm

ATPP, or A Table-Puller Paradise, is a rule that I discovered a while back and never really thought much of it. I must have posted around here somewhere, but thanks to Ian07 and 77topaz' searching efforts, I think it's worth posting in its own thread. This rule is named after a 24c/112 (or 3c/14) spaceship, that spawns twofold from a 5-cell pattern:

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x = 32, y = 25, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3o$obo19$b2ob2o$2bobo$2bobo19bo5bo$b2ob2o17b3o3b3o$23bobo3bobo!
This ship is very sparky, having around 3 points of edge-repair. Here it blasts through some Blinkers.:

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x = 44, y = 16, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
38bo$38bo$38bo2$2ob2o$bobo$bobo19bo5bo13bo$2ob2o17b3o3b3o12bo$22bobo3b
obo12bo5$36bo$36bo$36bo!
Yes, that's right, this rule has a blinker pushing reaction so amazing yet incredibly useless in it. They can even juggle a little:

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x = 51, y = 28, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
22bobo3bobo$2ob2o17b3o3b3o$bobo19bo5bo$bobo$2ob2o15$50bo$50bo$50bo2$
12b2ob2o$13bobo$13bobo19bo5bo$12b2ob2o17b3o3b3o$34bobo3bobo!
Hidden in there is a tiny, cute little 2c/8 puffer, doing its best. Two of them can meet in the middle and kiss:

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
o29bo$4o23b4o$3bo23bo$4o23b4o$o29bo!
Cue the 'aww's from the live studio awwdience.

Now we bring in the gun. The gun is a bit hard to follow, but it has a simple 8-cell seed:

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x = 55, y = 58, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
10b3o$40bobo$40b3o48$22b2ob2o$23bobo$23bobo$2b3o3b3o11b2ob2o17b3o3b3o$
2bobo3bobob3ob2o26bobo3bobo$o13bobo25bo11bo$14bobo$13b2ob2o!
Another fun reaction is this p2 'booped' reflector, and its boring stable counterpart:

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x = 63, y = 59, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
36bo2$3o31b2ob2o$34bo3bo$34b2ob2o$58b2ob2o$59bobo$59bobo$58b2ob2o41$2b
2o$bobo32bo$b2o$34b2ob2o$34bo3bo$34b2ob2o$58b2ob2o$59bobo$59bobo$58b2o
b2o!
But here comes the replicator...s. There are 10 (EDIT 10/14/2018) known replicator timings, all of which use the same mechanism:

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x = 25, y = 282, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
7bo11bo$6b3o9b3o$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b
2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o19$6b3o9b3o$5bo3bo7bo3bo$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$11b2ob2o$
12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o18$6b3o9b3o$6b3o9b3o$
5bo3bo7bo3bo$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob
2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o17$7bo11bo2$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$5bo3bo7bo3bo$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o
$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o18$7bo11bo$
5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$4b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o$5b2ob2o7b2ob2o$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$
11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o18$6bobo9bobo$4b7o5b7o$4bo5bo5bo5bo$
4b3ob2o7b2ob3o$11b2ob2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob
2o18$6bobo9bobo$4bob3obo5bob3obo$3b2o5bo5bo5b2o$4b2o3bo7bo3b2o$5bo5b2o
b2o5bo$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o18$5b2ob2o7b2ob
2o$3b7o7b7o$3bo3bo2bo5bo2bo3bo$3bobo15bobo$4b2o5b2ob2o5b2o$12bobo$12bo
bo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o19$3bo5b2o5b2o5bo$2b2o3bobo7bobo
3b2o$3bobo15bobo$4b2o5b2ob2o5b2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o
3b2o$b2ob2o19$2b2o4b3o5b3o4b2o$2b2o4b3o5b3o4b2o$2b2obo15bob2o$4b2o5b2o
b2o5b2o$12bobo$12bobo$11b2ob2o2$3bo$b2ob2o$2o3b2o$b2ob2o!
I suggest using the top as standard, unless the other are needed...

There's even a temporary glider in all of them, see if you can spot it.

Speaking of gliders, gliders can act as a rock to or straight up vapourize others:

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x = 23, y = 6, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$b2o17b3o$o19bo$7b3o4b3o4bo$7bo6bo$8bo6bo!
4G synths of replicators:

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x = 39, y = 81, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
16bobo$17b2o$17bo$2bo$obo$b2o9$35b3o$35bo$36bo12$32bo$31b2o$31bobo20$
36bobo$36b2o$37bo$2bo$obo$b2o9$17b3o$19bo$18bo12$32bo$31b2o$31bobo!
There's much more, including a b-like 8c/16 ship

Misc c/2 stuff:

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x = 6, y = 29, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$bo$2o2$2o$bo$2o14$2bo$2bob2o$o4bo$6o2$6o$o4bo$2bob2o$2bo!
Pi-terbations:

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x = 29, y = 5, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
4bo2bo17bo2bo$2o2b4o12b2o3b4o$bo19bo$2o2b4o12b2o3b4o$4bo2bo17bo2bo!
Also, a pulling reaction:

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x = 99, y = 4, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3o$30bobo$30b3o$96b3o!
This could possibly lead to a sawtooth.

EDIT: Gliders can vapourize table on tables:

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x = 5, y = 11, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
obo$b2o$bo5$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2ob2o!
Also, 2G 'ignition' of a puffer:

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
11bo$10bo$10b3o3$2bo$obo$b2o8$5b2ob2o$6bobo$6bobo$5b2ob2o!
EDIT2:
Double rake:

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x = 19, y = 14, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2bo2$2ob2o$o3bo$2ob2o6$9bo7bo$8b2o3bo3b2o$9bobo3bobo$10b2o3b2o!
Last edited by danny on October 14th, 2018, 12:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by 77topaz » October 3rd, 2018, 5:01 am

danny wrote:I suggest using the top as standard, unless the other are needed...
I'd favour the fifth from top instead, because it has the two "halves" of the replicator in phase.

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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 3rd, 2018, 7:00 am

Ah, true, and it probably has the lowest population, at 36 cells on its minimum phase:

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x = 25, y = 12, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
4bobo15bobo$4b3o5b2ob2o5b3o$5bo7bobo7bo$13bobo$12b2ob2o5$obo3bobo$3o3b
3o$bo5bo!
Chaos ?

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x = 30, y = 17, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3o5$9bobo15bobo$9b3o5b2ob2o5b3o$10bo7bobo7bo$18bobo$17b2ob2o5$5bobo3bo
bo$5b3o3b3o$6bo5bo!
This rule looks really challenging to make minibasks in like Abhpzta did with Highlife and Thighlife, etc. The replicator units go easily out of phase and turn into puffers sometimes. The best course of action seems to be colliding two 180*-rotated replicators, but even that can fail miserably, like in this chaotic pattern:

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x = 69, y = 14, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
60b3o3b3o$60bobo3bobo$4bobo15bobo35bobo3bobo$4b3o5b2ob2o5b3o$5bo7bobo
7bo$13bobo$12b2ob2o$52b2ob2o$53bobo$44b3o6bobo6b3o$44bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$
obo3bobo35bobo15bobo$3o3b3o$bo5bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 3rd, 2018, 7:59 am

Experimentally rubbing B-ships together when suddenly...

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x = 25, y = 2, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3ob3o11b3ob3o$obobobo11bobobobo!

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x = 25, y = 4, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
19bo3bo$18b3ob3o$3ob3o11bobobobo$obobobo!

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x = 26, y = 6, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
19bo3bo$18b3ob3o$17bo2bobo2bo$17b3o3b3o$3ob3o$obobobo!

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x = 25, y = 3, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
18bo3bo$3ob3o10b3ob3o$obobobo9b2obobob2o!
The last one is especially neat.
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Post by JoshM » October 3rd, 2018, 12:25 pm

R-ship rake:

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x = 7, y = 28, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2b2o$2ob2o$o2bo$3o2$3o$o2bo$2ob2o$2b2o11$4b2o$2b2ob2o$2bo2bo$2b3o2$2b
3o$2bo2bo$2b2ob2o$4b2o!
Reflecto-Puffer:

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x = 6, y = 28, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3b3o$3bo$3b3o2$3b3o$3bo$3b3o13$2b2o$bobo$2obo$b2o2$b2o$2obo$bobo$2b2o!
Short Table on Short Table Puffer:

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x = 5, y = 45, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2b3o$2bo$2b3o2$2b3o$2bo$2b3o13$3o$o$3o2$3o$o$3o13$2b3o$2bo$2b3o2$2b3o$
2bo$2b3o!
Wickstretcher-based backrake:

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x = 7, y = 83, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
4b3o$4bo$4b3o2$4b3o$4bo$4b3o13$2b3o$2bo$2b3o2$2b3o$2bo$2b3o13$3o$o$3o
2$3o$o$3o13$2b3o$2bo$2b3o2$2b3o$2bo$2b3o13$4b3o$4bo$4b3o2$4b3o$4bo$4b
3o!
Glider Rake:

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x = 25, y = 38, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
19bo2bo$19bo2bo$22bo$6b3o10b3o$7bo11b3o$5bo$3b3o2b2o$2b2o2b2obo$3b7o2$
3b7o$2b2o2b2obo$3b3o2b2o$5bo$7bo11b3o$6b3o10b3o$22bo$19bo2bo$19bo2bo$
22bo2$6b2o16bo$6b2o13bobo$6b2o$9bo$3b3ob4o$b4o$2o3b2o4bo$b11o2$b11o$2o
3b2o4bo$b4o$3b3ob4o$9bo$6b2o$6b2o$6b2o!
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x = 20, y = 10, rule = B37/S2-i34q
11o8bo$10b2o6b2o$10bobo4bobo$10bo2bo2bo2bo$2bo7bo3b2o3bo$2bo7bo8bo$2bo
7bo8bo$3bo6bo8bo$4bo5bo8bo$5b6o8bo!

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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 3rd, 2018, 12:35 pm

Breeder, 39-cells:

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x = 10, y = 20, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
6bo$6bobo$8b2o$5b4o2$4b5o$6bob2o$6bobo$6b2o$5bo5$4bo$4b3o$o4bobo$o3bo
2bo$o2b2ob2o$4b2o!
EDIT: some ships

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x = 40, y = 15, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
b2o27b2o$2o29b2o$b2o6bo20b2o$8b3o$8bobo28bo$7bo30b2o$b2o5bobo19b2o5b2o
$2o6b3o20b2o5b2o$b2o27b2o7bo$8b3o$8bobo28bo$7bo30b2o$8bobo26b2o$8b3o
27b2o$9bo29bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by 77topaz » October 3rd, 2018, 4:28 pm

A nice puffer, whose plume starts out very wide, but the final trail is a lot narrower:

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x = 94, y = 45, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
52b3o11b3o2$59b2o$38b3o18bob2o11bo6b3o$37bo2bo18bobobo10bo$37b2o2b2o
20b2o9bo2b3o4b2o$42bo19b2o13bobo3bobo$40b3o19bo14bobo3bobo$58bo$38bo
18b3o$38b2o5bo11bobo$39b2o4b3o$37bobo5bobo6b2o$2bo19bo14b2o2b2o6bo3b2o
7b2o19b3o$3o19bo17b3o4bo6b2o7b2o$o3bo35b2o2bob2o14b2o$4o15b3ob3o15b2o
2bo45b3o$5bo13bo2bo2b2o31bobo$5o15b6o32b3o28bo$o6bo9b2o5bo34bo29bo$o2b
2o4bo6b2ob2o68bo$b2o5bobo8b2o$4bo2bo2bo8bo$4b2o3b2o8b2o$16b2ob2o54bo$
17b2o5bo50bo$20b6o49bo$19bo2bo2b2o$19b3ob3o15b2o2bo31b3o$40b2o2bob2o$
22bo17b3o4bo$22bo14b2o2b2o6bo19b3o$37bobo5bobo$39b2o4b3o$38b2o5bo$38bo
2$40b3o19bo$42bo19b2o$37b2o2b2o20b2o$37bo2bo18bobobo$38b3o18bob2o$59b
2o2$52b3o11b3o!
A symmetrical version, posted on the Conwaylife Discord by danny:

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x = 27, y = 19, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2bo19bo$3o19bo$o3bo$4o15b3ob3o$5bo13bo2bo2b2o$5o15b6o$o6bo9b2o5bo$o2b
2o4bo6b2ob2o$b2o5bobo8b2o$4bo2bo2bo8bo$4b2o3b2o8b2o$16b2ob2o$17b2o5bo$
20b6o$19bo2bo2b2o$19b3ob3o2$22bo$22bo!
Two wickstretchers:

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x = 37, y = 18, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
b3o25b3ob3o$29bobobobo$o3bo23b2obobob2o$o3bo26bobo$bobo27bobo$2ob2o25b
2ob2o$bobo27bobo$2ob2o25b2ob2o$bobo27bobo$2ob2o25b2ob2o$bobo27bobo$2ob
2o25b2ob2o$bobo27bobo$2ob2o25b2ob2o$bobo27bobo$2ob2o25b2ob2o$bobo27bob
o$2ob2o25b2ob2o!
A peculiar sort-of-gun:

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x = 155, y = 25, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
108b3o2$106bo$106bo$106bo3$63b2ob2o$64bobo$64bobo$63b2ob2o6b2o3b2o11b
2o3b2o17b2o9b2o11b2o9b2o$6b2ob2o62bobo3bobo2b2ob2o2bobo3bobo8b2ob2o2bo
bo2b2ob2o2bobo9bobo2b2ob2o2bobo$o6bobo62b2o3bo3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo3b2o8bob
o2b2o5bobo5b2o7b2o5bobo5b2o$o6bobo63bo7bo3bobo3bo7bo9bobo3bo3bobobobo
3bo9bo3bobobobo3bo$o5b2ob2o73b2ob2o19b2ob2o7b2ob2o19b2ob2o4$7b3o2$106b
o$106bo$106bo2$108b3o!
A definitely-a-gun that emits tableships, posted on the Conwaylife Discord by BlinkerSpawn:

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x = 38, y = 38, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
26bo10bo$24b2ob2o8bo$23b2o3b2o7bo$24b2ob2o16$2bo$b3o$3b2o$2o$bo$o2bo$
4o2$4o$o2bo$bo$2o$3b2o$b3o$2bo4$5b3o!

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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 3rd, 2018, 11:45 pm

Almooost-

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x = 55, y = 17, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2ob2o$bobo$bobo19bo5bo$2ob2o17b3o3b3o$22bobo3bobo4$52bo$52b3o$49bo4bo$
49b6o2$49b6o$49bo4bo$52b3o$52bo!
The c/2 wickstrecher is pretty good at being retracted and making useful stuff.

32+8nc/64+16n spaceship (I think that's the speed):

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x = 16, y = 51, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
4b4o$4bo2b2o$3ob2o2b2o$8bo$5bobo$5bo$13bo$13b3o$10bo4bo$10b6o2$10b6o$
10bo4bo$13b3o$13bo$5bo$5bobo$8bo$3ob2o2b2o$4bo2b2o$4b4o10$8b4o$8bo2b2o
$4b3ob2o2b2o$12bo$9bobo$9bo$13bo$13b3o$10bo4bo$10b6o2$10b6o$10bo4bo$
13b3o$13bo$9bo$9bobo$12bo$4b3ob2o2b2o$8bo2b2o$8b4o!
Gliders devour things 2:

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x = 21, y = 115, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
o$b2o$2o4$18bo$18b3o$15bo4bo$15b6o2$15b6o$15bo4bo$18b3o$18bo87$2bo$obo
$b2o3$18bo$18b3o$15bo4bo$15b6o2$15b6o$15bo4bo$18b3o$18bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by toroidalet » October 7th, 2018, 11:08 pm

danny wrote:Almooost-

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almost
Completed:

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x = 55, y = 25, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2ob2o$bobo$bobo19bo5bo$2ob2o17b3o3b3o$22bobo3bobo4$52bo$52b3o$49bo4bo$
49b6o2$49b6o$49bo4bo$52b3o$52bo4$22bobo3bobo$2ob2o17b3o3b3o$bobo19bo5b
o$bobo$2ob2o!
6c/84 (c/14) ship:

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x = 205, y = 109, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3bo$3bo13bo$3bo12b3o$15b2ob2o2$22bo65bo$19bo5bobo55bo3b3o$19bo5bobo9b
2o5bo41bo3bo$27bo10bobo3b2o29b2o9b2ob2o7bo23bo$42bobo30b2o6bo$32b2ob2o
5b2o29bo2bo19b2ob2o19b2ob2o$33bobo36b3o21bo3bo19bo3bo62bobo$33bobo36b
2o22b2ob2o19b2ob2o60b7o$32b2ob2o35b2o111bo5bo$72bo2bo109b3ob3o$134b2ob
2o$58b2ob2o10b2o60bobo64b2o$58bo3bo72bobo64b3o$58b2ob2o66bobo2b2ob2o2b
obo57bo$16bo112bobo9bobo56b2ob2o$15b2o43bo31b2o3b2o30b3o9b3o53bo3b3o$
15bobo73bobo3bobo53b3o3b3o32bo7bo$90b2o3bo3b2o52bobo3bobo31bo$91bo7bo
51bo11bo2$194bo9$84bo$82b2o$83b2o$162bo21b2o$163bo19bobo$161b3o21bo$
43bo$42b2o$42bobo13$57bo$55b2o$56b2o$169b2o6bo$168bobo7bo$170bo5b3o$
70bo$69b2o$69bobo13$30bo$28b2o$29b2o$154b2o36bo$153bobo37bo$155bo35b3o
$97bo$96b2o$96bobo2$152b2o5b3o3b3o$80b2o9b2o59b2ob3obobo3bobo$79bobo2b
2ob2o2bobo59bobo13bo$78b2o5bobo5b2o46bobo3bobo3bobo$79bo3bobobobo3bo
47bobo3bobo2b2ob2o18bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$84b2ob2o21bo5bo24b3o3b3o23b7o4bob
o4b7o$173bo5bo4bobo4bo5bo$55b2ob2o4b2ob2o39b2ob2ob2ob2o54b3ob3o3b2ob2o
3b3ob3o$56bobo5bo3bo39bo3bobo3bo$41b3obo10bobo5b2ob2o39b2ob2ob2ob2o$
36bo3bobob5o6b2ob2o16bo5bo$3bo31b2o5bobo2bo18bo8b3o3b3o$b2o33bobo2b2ob
2o4bo23bo3bobo3bo$2b2o33b2o35b2ob2ob2ob2o2$12b2ob2o$5bo7bobo7bo$4b3o6b
obo6b3o$3b2ob2o4b2ob2o4b2ob2o3$o$o!
"Sierpinski" builder:

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x = 9, y = 17, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2b3o$2bobo$o$2bobo$2b3o11$6b3o$6bobo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 8th, 2018, 12:23 am

Very nice discoveries, toilet!

Here's a 10c/20, 12c/24, and a big c/2 rake:

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x = 3, y = 51, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3o$2bo$2bo$bo2$bo$2bo$2bo$3o12$bo$2bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$2bo$bo9$bo$2bo$2b
o$3o4$3o$2bo$2bo$bo!
How known are these?

Breeder:

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x = 7, y = 27, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
bo$2bo$2bo$3o4$3o$2bo$2bo$bo8$4b2o$5b2o$4b2o$4bo2$4bo$4b2o$5b2o$4b2o!
I think this rule is actually, under rare circumstances, explosive. Take a look at this pattern:

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x = 8, y = 25, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
bo$2bo$2bo$3o4$3o$2bo$2bo$bo6$5b2o$6b2o$5b2o$5bo2$5bo$5b2o$6b2o$5b2o!
15-cell explosive growth:

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x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14bo$15bo$15bo$o12b3o$o$o2$13b3o$15bo$15bo$14bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by 77topaz » October 8th, 2018, 7:00 am

Such explosions occur so rarely that the rule is apgsearchable without freezing, so I don't think the rule as a whole could be considered explosive. HighLife's replicators cause such semi-explosions more frequently, and HighLife's not considered an explosive rule, so...

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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 8th, 2018, 7:25 pm

This looks a bit useful, of some sorts...

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x = 133, y = 8, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
26bo59bo$24b2ob2o55b2ob2o$23b2o3b2o53b2o3b2o$24b2ob2o55b2ob2o$2ob2o55b
2ob2o63b2ob2o$bobo57bobo65bobo$bobo57bobo65bobo$2ob2o55b2ob2o63b2ob2o!
I bet there are similar 'reading' reactions.
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 8th, 2018, 10:15 pm

danny wrote:This looks a bit useful, of some sorts...

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two tablepullers bounce off a table, leaving another table near it
Sadly, sending a third tablepuller into the resulting constellation with the same parity and lane creates a gun.
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by PkmnQ » October 10th, 2018, 6:55 am

I found this
I don't have enough time to check

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x = 27, y = 12, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
8b2ob2o$9bobo$3o6bobo6b3o$obo5b2ob2o5bobo$obo15bobo3$22b2ob2o$23bobo$
14b3o6bobo$14bobo5b2ob2o$14bobo!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = AnimatedPixelArt
4.P.qREqWE$4.2tL3vSvX$4.qREqREqREP$4.vS4vXvS2tQ$2.qWE2.qREqWEK$2.2vX
2.vXvSvXvStQtL$qWE2.qWE2.P.K$2vX2.2vX2.tQ2tLtQ$qWE4.qWE$2vX4.2vX$2.qW
EqWE$2.4vX!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 10th, 2018, 7:03 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote: Sadly, sending a third tablepuller into the resulting constellation with the same parity and lane creates a gun.
I find it humourous that in this case, creating a gun is a boring result. :p

Small p56 gun:

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x = 32, y = 9, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
6b3o$6bobo$4bo$2o27b2o$obo26bobo$b2o27b2o$27bo$23bobo$23b3o!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 11th, 2018, 1:56 am

4G eater:

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x = 23, y = 27, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
20bo$20bobo$20b2o7$9b2o$8bobo$8bo$8bobo$9b2o11$2o$b2o$o!
Although it doesn't work here so that's a bit pointless.

4G B-ship:

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x = 24, y = 20, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
23bo$21b2o$22b2o8$11bo$11bobo$11b2o3$b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o!
3G gun:

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x = 20, y = 11, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
19bo$17b2o$18b2o4$b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o!
I think the B-ship is really cool, although it sadly doesn't evolve from the actual B.

Heisenbelch:

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x = 8, y = 18, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
5bo$5bobo$5b2o11$b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o!
2.0:

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x = 7, y = 16, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
4bo$4bobo$4b2o9$b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o!
Shifting?:

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x = 13, y = 18, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
12bo$10b2o$11b2o11$b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o!
Finally, here's a Beeshooter:

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x = 34, y = 51, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14b3o7bo$14bobo7bo$14bobo7bo2$2b2o27b2o$2bobo26bobo$3b2o27b2o2$19bobo$
19bobo$19b3o4$5bo$4bo$4b3o2$o$o$o3$5b3o$5bobo$3bo$5bobo$5b3o11$10b2o$
10b2o9$11b2o$10bobo$10b2o!
EDIT: double-snake conduit:

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x = 15, y = 9, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
13b2o$13bo$14bo$13b2o2$3o10b2o$obo11bo$13bo$13b2o!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 11th, 2018, 9:12 pm

More cool reactions:

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x = 43, y = 18, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14b2o$15bo$14b2o7$b2o$obo$2bo4$41bo$40b2o$40bobo!

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x = 23, y = 22, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$bo$2o17$21bo$20b2o$20bobo!

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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$bo$2o15$7bo$6b2o$6bobo!

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x = 14, y = 16, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$bo$2o11$11b2o$11bobo$11bo!

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x = 14, y = 29, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
11bo$11bobo$11b2o11$2o$bo$2o11$11b2o$11bobo$11bo!

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2o$bo$2o4$15b2o$14b2o$16bo!
That last reaction leads to htis p112 glider shuttle:

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x = 20, y = 64, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2bo$2bo$2bo12$3o$obo$4bo$obo$3o$17bo$17bo$17bo7$7bo$8b2o$7b2o3$17b3o$
17bobo$15bo$17bobo$17b3o5$2bo$2bo$2bo17$17bo$17bo$17bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by FlameandFury » October 11th, 2018, 9:16 pm

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x = 22, y = 21, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3$8b3o$8bobo$8bobo3$3b3o$3bo$3b3o2$17b3o$19bo$17b3o3$12bobo$12bobo$12b
3o!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by toroidalet » October 11th, 2018, 11:28 pm

24c/224 (3c/28) ship:

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x = 131, y = 111, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2ob2o43b2ob2o41b2ob2o19b2ob2o$bobo45bobo43bobo21bobo$bobo45bobo34b3o6b
obo6b3o3b3o6bobo6b3o$2ob2o17b3o3b3o17b2ob2o17b3o3b3o7bobo5b2ob2o5bobo
3bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$22bobo3bobo39bobo3bobo7bobo15bobo3bobo15bobo$20bo11b
o35bo11bo20$128b2o$127bobo$129bo28$113bo$111bobo$112b2o24$96b2o$95bobo
$97bo22$56bo11bo$58bobo3bobo49bobo$12b2ob2o41b3o3b3o39b2ob2o5bobo$13bo
bo91bobo6b3o$13bobo91bobo$12b2ob2o89b2ob2o!
24c/224 glider rakes:

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x = 154, y = 243, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2ob2o43b2ob2o41b2ob2o19b2ob2o$bobo45bobo43bobo21bobo$bobo45bobo34b3o6b
obo6b3o3b3o6bobo6b3o$2ob2o17b3o3b3o17b2ob2o17b3o3b3o7bobo5b2ob2o5bobo
3bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$22bobo3bobo39bobo3bobo7bobo15bobo3bobo15bobo$20bo11b
o35bo11bo22$128b2o$127bobo$129bo26$113bo$111bobo$112b2o26$96b2o$95bobo
$97bo19$62bobo$60bob3obo45b2o5bo$59b2o5b2o45bobo3b2o$60b2o3b2o50bobo$
13b2ob2o43bo3bo41b2ob2o5b2o$14bobo91bobo$14bobo91bobo$13b2ob2o89b2ob2o
30$22b2ob2o43b2ob2o41b2ob2o19b2ob2o$23bobo45bobo43bobo21bobo$23bobo45b
obo34b3o6bobo6b3o3b3o6bobo6b3o$22b2ob2o17b3o3b3o17b2ob2o17b3o3b3o7bobo
5b2ob2o5bobo3bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$44bobo3bobo39bobo3bobo7bobo15bobo3bobo
15bobo$42bo11bo35bo11bo11$152b2o$151bobo$153bo37$135bo$133bobo$134b2o
15$120b2o$119bobo$121bo22$80bo11bo$82bobo3bobo49bobo$36b2ob2o41b3o3b3o
39b2ob2o5bobo$37bobo91bobo6b3o$37bobo91bobo$36b2ob2o89b2ob2o!
24c/224 backward tablepuller rake:

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x = 119, y = 111, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
36b2ob2o41b2ob2o19b2ob2o$37bobo43bobo21bobo$37bobo34b3o6bobo6b3o3b3o6b
obo6b3o$10b3o3b3o17b2ob2o17b3o3b3o7bobo5b2ob2o5bobo3bobo5b2ob2o5bobo$
10bobo3bobo39bobo3bobo7bobo15bobo3bobo15bobo$8bo11bo35bo11bo20$116b2o$
115bobo$117bo28$101bo$99bobo$100b2o24$84b2o$83bobo$85bo22$44bo11bo$46b
obo3bobo49bobo$2ob2o41b3o3b3o39b2ob2o5bobo$bobo91bobo6b3o$bobo91bobo$
2ob2o89b2ob2o!
I believe that ships with speeds of the form 24n/112n+112 are possible, but they're probably much larger.
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 12th, 2018, 12:16 am

p112 symmetric c/2 gun:

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x = 57, y = 71, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
3o35bo$37b3o6b3o$37bobo2$25b2o27b2o$25bobo26bobo$26b2o27b2o2$42bobo$
42b3o$43bo4$29bo$27b2o$28b2o$4bo2$5b2o$6bo$5b2o3$2bo2bo$2b4o2$2b4o$2bo
2bo9bo$13b2o$14b2o$5b2o$6bo$5b2o4$5b2o$6bo$5b2o$14b2o$13b2o$2bo2bo9bo$
2b4o2$2b4o$2bo2bo3$5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$4bo$28b2o$27b2o$29bo4$43bo$42b3o$42b
obo2$26b2o27b2o$25bobo26bobo$25b2o27b2o2$37bobo$37b3o6b3o$3o35bo!
It's based off of a g-> unstable r-ship reaction

EDIT: ooo

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x = 113, y = 90, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
43bo$33b3o6b3o$42bobo2$26b2o27b2o$25bobo26bobo$25b2o27b2o2$37bobo$37b
3o$38bo2$111bo$110bo$52bo57b3o$53b2o$52b2o3$3o35bo$37b3o6b3o$37bobo2$
25b2o27b2o$25bobo26bobo$26b2o27b2o2$42bobo$42b3o21bo$43bo23b2o$66b2o3$
29bo$27b2o$28b2o$4bo2$5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$80bo$2bo2bo75b2o$2b4o74b2o2$2b4o$
2bo2bo9bo39bo2bo$13b2o$14b2o37b2obo2bo$5b2o46b3o2bo$6bo47b2o6b2o$5b2o
45bob2o7bo$52b5o2b5o2$52b5o2b5o$5b2o45bob2o7bo30bo$6bo47b2o6b2o31bo$5b
2o46b3o2bo35b2o$14b2o37b2obo2bo37b2o$13b2o80bo$2bo2bo9bo39bo2bo35bo$2b
4o88bo2$2b4o$2bo2bo97bo$103bo$103bo$5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$4bo$28b2o$27b2o$29b
o4$43bo$42b3o$42bobo2$26b2o27b2o$25bobo26bobo$25b2o27b2o2$37bobo$37b3o
6b3o$3o35bo!
EDIT: the p28 can split signals:

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x = 21, y = 77, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
18bobo$18b2o$19bo10$9bobo$9bobo$9b3o3$4b3o$6bo$4b3o9b3o$16bo$16b3o3$
11b3o$11bobo$11bobo22$o$o$o17bobo$18b2o$19bo10$9bobo$9bobo$9b3o3$4b3o$
6bo$4b3o9b3o$16bo$16b3o3$11b3o$11bobo$11bobo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by danny » October 12th, 2018, 5:31 pm

Here's a smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 43, y = 48, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14b3o$14b3o$13bo3bo$o12b2ob2o24bo$o41bo$o41bo15$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bo
bo$19b3o2$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bobo$19b3o15$21bo$21bo$21bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by BlinkerSpawn » October 12th, 2018, 6:26 pm

danny wrote:Here's a smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 43, y = 48, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14b3o$14b3o$13bo3bo$o12b2ob2o24bo$o41bo$o41bo15$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bo
bo$19b3o2$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bobo$19b3o15$21bo$21bo$21bo!
Smaller smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 31, y = 45, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
5b3o3b3o$5bobo3bobo$3bo11bo2$3o25b3o14$18b2o$17b2o$18b2o4$18b2o$17b2o$
18b2o16$18bo$18bo$18bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » October 12th, 2018, 11:35 pm

danny wrote:Very nice discoveries, toilet!
I love autocorrect.

Can't tell if this is known yet, probably is:

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x = 6, y = 11, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
b2o$2o$bo6$4bo$3b2o$4b2o!
EDIT: B+TP = B+TP+TP:

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x = 84, y = 11, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2bobo9bobo$7o5b7o$o5bo5bo5bo$3ob2o7b2ob3o$7b2ob2o19b2ob2o$8bobo21bobo$
8bobo21bobo$7b2ob2o19b2ob2o$82b2o$81b2o$82bo!
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by wildmyron » October 13th, 2018, 12:43 pm

A collection of c/2 ships (p4, p6, p8, p10 and p12)

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x = 72, y = 113, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
24bo21bobo12bo$24bob2o5bobo10bob3o10bob2o$27bo5bob3o9bo2b2o7bo4bo$24bo
b2o3b2o4b2o8b4o10b4o3bo$24bo6b7o9bobo9b2o5bob3o$31bo29bob3o4b2o$24bo6b
7o9bobo9b2o5bob3o$24bob2o3b2o4b2o8b4o10b4o3bo$27bo5bob3o9bo2b2o7bo4bo$
24bob2o5bobo10bob3o10bob2o$24bo21bobo12bo8$63bo$63bob2o$48bo12bo4bo$
48b3o5bo3bo2b4o$50b2o7b4o2bo$48b3o6b3o6bobo$48bo6b2obo7bob3o$55bo14b2o
$48bo6b2obo7bob3o$48b3o6b3o6bobo$50b2o7b4o2bo$48b3o5bo3bo2b4o$48bo12bo
4bo$63bob2o$63bo9$67b2o$67b2obo$66bo3b2o$63b2o2b4o$62b4o$63b2o2b4o$66b
o3b2o$67b2obo$67b2o9$28bo33bo$7bo12bo7bobo28b2o2bo3bo$6bo5b3o4bo2b2o6b
2o27bo3bo3b3o$bo4b3o4bobob2ob3obob5o24bobo6bo4b2o$o13b2o5bo3b2o28bob2o
b4obob3o$3o25bo25bo3bo6bobo$28bob2o19b2o2b3o3b3o$31bo18b4o9bo$28bob2o
19b2o2b3o3b3o$3o25bo25bo3bo6bobo$o13b2o5bo3b2o28bob2ob4obob3o$bo4b3o4b
obob2ob3obob5o24bobo6bo4b2o$6bo5b3o4bo2b2o6b2o27bo3bo3b3o$7bo12bo7bobo
28b2o2bo3bo$28bo33bo7$63bo4bo$65b6o$61b2obobo3b2o$61bo3b6o$61bo$61bo3b
4o$68b2o$61bo3b4o$61bo$61bo3b6o$61b2obobo3b2o$65b6o$63bo4bo7$43bo$43bo
b2o22bo$41bo4bo16bob2o3bo$36bo3bo2b4o17bo5b2o$39b4o2bo15bo2bo4b2o$37b
3o6bobo20bo$35b2obo7bob3o$35bo14b2o$35b2obo7bob3o18bo$37b3o6bobo12bo2b
o4b2o$39b4o2bo18bo5b2o$36bo3bo2b4o16bob2o3bo$41bo4bo22bo$43bob2o$43bo!
The c/2 wickstretcher is extensible in the obvious way (not sure if this was known)

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
13bo$13b3o$5bobobo5b2o$5b11o$2bo$2b14o$o14b2o$16o2$16o$o14b2o$2b14o$2b
o$5b11o$5bobobo5b2o$13b3o$13bo!
A p8 c/2 glider back rake, extracted from a ship in the above collection

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
$15bo$o4b2o8b3o$o4b3o2b2o5bo$o2bobob3o3b5o$b2o8b2o$15bo$15b3o$17b2o$
15b3o$15bo!
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Re: ATPP (B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k)

Post by toroidalet » October 13th, 2018, 1:14 pm

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
danny wrote:Here's a smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 43, y = 48, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
14b3o$14b3o$13bo3bo$o12b2ob2o24bo$o41bo$o41bo15$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bo
bo$19b3o2$19b3o$19bobo$17bo$19bobo$19b3o15$21bo$21bo$21bo!
Smaller smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 31, y = 45, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
5b3o3b3o$5bobo3bobo$3bo11bo2$3o25b3o14$18b2o$17b2o$18b2o4$18b2o$17b2o$
18b2o16$18bo$18bo$18bo!
Smaller smaller smaller Beeshooter:

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x = 15, y = 45, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
o$o4b3o3b2o$o4bobo3bobo$3bo8bo2$14bo$14bo$14bo12$6b2o$5b2o$6b2o4$6b2o$
5b2o$6b2o15$2bo$2bo$2bo!
48c/336 (n=2) double backwards tablepuller rake (one end capped off to form a 24c/448 (3c/56) growing ship):

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x = 146, y = 137, rule = B3-ckq4z/S2-c3-a4iq5k6k
2ob2o49b2ob2o41b2ob2o7b2ob2o7b2ob2o$bobo45bo3bobobobo3bo37bobo9bobo9bo
bo$bobo44b2o5bobo5b2o36bobo9bobo9bobo13bo$2ob2o44bobo2b2ob2o2bobo36b2o
b3obobo2b2ob2o2bobob3ob3obobo3bobo$50b2o9b2o44b3o9b3o9b3o3b3o9$136b2o$
135bobo$137bo15$94bo$92bobo$93b2o65$100b2o$99bobo$101bo15$130bo$128bob
o$129b2o13$137bobo3bobo$115b2ob2o17bobo3bobo$116bobo18b3o3b3o$45b2o3b
2o11b2o3b2o46bobo$44bobo3bobo2b2ob2o2bobo3bobo44b2ob2o$43b2o3bo3b2o2bo
bo2b2o3bo3b2o$44bo7bo3bobo3bo7bo$55b2ob2o!
I'm probably not going to complete it, but you can
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