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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by testitemqlstudop » January 28th, 2019, 9:19 pm

Moosey wrote: Inline... like comments? (Sorry, I'm not too good with code yet.)
Let me guess - you are on Mac. Install homebrew (brew.sh) and run

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brew tap homebrew/versions
brew install [flags] gcc48
and recompile with gcc.

Hope it works!

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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by wildmyron » January 29th, 2019, 12:11 am

Moosey wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Moosey wrote:I got gfind, but couldn't run it. Any tips on that?
The link errors seem to be due to the use of inline. Edit gfind.c and either remove all the inline strings or change them to "static inline".
Inline... like comments? (Sorry, I'm not too good with code yet.)
No, not like comments. inline is a keyword in C which gives the compiler a hint about how it should compile a function. It is only used on function definitions. What Andrew is saying is that you need to edit gfind.c to change lines such as

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inline long hashFunction(node b, row r) {
to

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static inline long hashFunction(node b, row r) {
If you get a copy of gfind.c from https://github.com/conwaylife/gfind then you will have a version with these changes already made.

If you prefer, you can follow testitemqlstudop's advice and compile with gcc, then you won't need this modification. Out of the box, the gcc command on MacOS is actually running a different compiler called clang - which you can see reference to in the screenshot you posted.

Further questions about compiling and using gfind are best asked in one of the existing gfind threads (of which there are several), such as How to use Gfind?
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by Moosey » January 30th, 2019, 8:53 pm

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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by 77topaz » January 30th, 2019, 9:55 pm

The "note" lines actually tell you precisely what to do to silence those warnings.

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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by wildmyron » January 30th, 2019, 10:49 pm

Moosey wrote:What do i do now?
Now you have compiled gfind. There will be an executable file named "gfind" in the Gfind folder. You can now run gfind with

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./gfind c
to see the options available.

Note: pass all the desired options as a single string, with or without slashes separating the options. The following two commands are equivalent:

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./gfind b3/s23/o3/v/f2
./gfind b3s23o3vf2
They will both find two small c/3 ships: one with 60 cells and the turtle.
wildmyron wrote:Further questions about compiling and using gfind are best asked in one of the existing gfind threads (of which there are several), such as How to use Gfind?
As an aside, please copy and paste output from the terminal as text rather than posting screenshots. This makes it just a bit easier for the rest of us trying to help you.
77topaz wrote:The "note" lines actually tell you precisely what to do to silence those warnings.
The warnings can be safely ignored in this case, it just means that the evaluation of the expression relies on precedence rules rather than being explicit about the order of operations.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by Moosey » January 31st, 2019, 9:26 am

wildmyron wrote:
Moosey wrote:What do i do now?
Now you have compiled gfind. There will be an executable file named "gfind" in the Gfind folder. You can now run gfind with

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./gfind c
to see the options available.

Note: pass all the desired options as a single string, with or without slashes separating the options. The following two commands are equivalent:

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./gfind b3/s23/o3/v/f2
./gfind b3s23o3vf2
They will both find two small c/3 ships: one with 60 cells and the turtle.
wildmyron wrote:Further questions about compiling and using gfind are best asked in one of the existing gfind threads (of which there are several), such as How to use Gfind?
As an aside, please copy and paste output from the terminal as text rather than posting screenshots. This makes it just a bit easier for the rest of us trying to help you.
77topaz wrote:The "note" lines actually tell you precisely what to do to silence those warnings.
The warnings can be safely ignored in this case, it just means that the evaluation of the expression relies on precedence rules rather than being explicit about the order of operations.
Yeah, after posting it I tried running the commands from the lifewiki tutorial and it worked.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by dvgrn » February 12th, 2020, 5:47 pm

This incomplete search result came up in a discussion today -- figured I'd repost it here:

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#C partial p5 hyperfountain -- David Eppstein, 2 October 2002
x = 25, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
12bo4$6bo2b2obob2o2bo$4b5o2bobo2b5o$3bo4b2obobob2o4bo$2bob3o11b3obo$3b
o3bob7obo3bo$4b3o11b3o$6bo11bo$2b4ob3o5b3ob4o$bo4b4ob3ob4o4bo$b2o2b2o
4b3o4b2o2b2o$5bob4o3b4obo$11bobo$3b2ob2obobobobob2ob2o$2bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo$2bobo3bo2bobo2bo3bobo$b2o2b4obo3bob4o2b2o$o2bo5b2o3b2o5bo2bo$2ob4o
11b4ob2o$3b8o3b8o$4o5b2o3b2o5b4o$o5b5o3b5o5bo$b4o2bo9bo2b4o$12bo$b4o3b
2ob3ob2o3b4o$bo2b3o5bo5b3o2bo$2bo2bo2bo7bo2bo2bo$obo3bobo7bobo3bobo$2o
4b3o7b3o4b2o$4b2obobo5bobob2o$3b5o2b2ob2o2b5o$3b2ob2ob2o3b2ob2ob2o$5b
2o11b2o$5bo13bo$bo2bo15bo2bo$2b2o17b2o!
Can modern tools find a completion for this? There was a definite negative result that Nicolay Beluchenko reported for a p4 "ultrafountain" (largest possible number of blank rows given the period), but I don't think there's a p5 hyperfountain or ultrafountain known yet, or a proven negative result. (?)

Here's a link with some previous discussion of the terminology.

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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by Extrementhusiast » February 14th, 2020, 9:13 pm

dvgrn wrote:
February 12th, 2020, 5:47 pm
This incomplete search result came up in a discussion today -- figured I'd repost it here:

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#C partial p5 hyperfountain -- David Eppstein, 2 October 2002
x = 25, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
12bo4$6bo2b2obob2o2bo$4b5o2bobo2b5o$3bo4b2obobob2o4bo$2bob3o11b3obo$3b
o3bob7obo3bo$4b3o11b3o$6bo11bo$2b4ob3o5b3ob4o$bo4b4ob3ob4o4bo$b2o2b2o
4b3o4b2o2b2o$5bob4o3b4obo$11bobo$3b2ob2obobobobob2ob2o$2bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo$2bobo3bo2bobo2bo3bobo$b2o2b4obo3bob4o2b2o$o2bo5b2o3b2o5bo2bo$2ob4o
11b4ob2o$3b8o3b8o$4o5b2o3b2o5b4o$o5b5o3b5o5bo$b4o2bo9bo2b4o$12bo$b4o3b
2ob3ob2o3b4o$bo2b3o5bo5b3o2bo$2bo2bo2bo7bo2bo2bo$obo3bobo7bobo3bobo$2o
4b3o7b3o4b2o$4b2obobo5bobob2o$3b5o2b2ob2o2b5o$3b2ob2ob2o3b2ob2ob2o$5b
2o11b2o$5bo13bo$bo2bo15bo2bo$2b2o17b2o!
Can modern tools find a completion for this? There was a definite negative result that Nicolay Beluchenko reported for a p4 "ultrafountain" (largest possible number of blank rows given the period), but I don't think there's a p5 hyperfountain or ultrafountain known yet, or a proven negative result. (?)

Here's a link with some previous discussion of the terminology.
Obviously reducible:

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x = 162, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
19b2obo7b2o12bo2bobobo3b2o2b2ob2o5bo19b2obo2bob2o3bobo2bo4b2o8b2o9b2o
15b2o$15b2o2bob2o2bo4bo4b2o5b6ob2obobo2bo2bobobo3bobo9bobo2bobo2bob4ob
obobob2o2b3o2bobo7bobobo2bobo2bo2b2o10bo2bo$14bo2bobo3b3o6bobobo4bo6bo
3bob2ob2o5bo3bobo8bob5ob2obo8bobo3b2o3bobobo4b2obobob4ob2obobo2bo3b2ob
o3b2o5bo$11b2o2b3o2b2o6b5obo6bo2b2o2bo3bo2bo3b3o2bob2o2b2o4bo2bo7bo2b
4ob2o2bob3o4b2obobo5bobo2bo7bobo2b2o4bob5o6bobo$6bo3bo2b2o3bobob2o4bo
5b2o4b2obo2bobob2obo2b2o4bob2obobo2bo2bobob2ob2o3bobo3bobobobo4b4obobo
9bobob6o4b2o2b3obo5bo6bobo$5bobobobo3bob2obo3bo4b4o4bo5bo2bobo2bob2obo
b4obo4b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobo3bo2bob2o3bo3bo8bo2bobo5b4o2bo4bob4o
7b2obob2o$5bobobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o2b3o3b2ob2ob2o4bobo2bo4bobo5bo3bo
2bobo3bobo3bo6bo2bobob2o2bo2bobobo2b4obobo4bobo4bob4obo7bo2b2o3bo2bo$
4b2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo11bob2o5bo2bob2obobo2bob3o4b2ob2o4b3ob2o6bo3b2o
4bobob3o8bo4b3o2b2o3bo2b2o4b3ob3o3bo2b2o3bobo$5bo2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o
6bo14b2o4bo2bo5bobob5o3bobobo2b3o6b4obo3bo2bo3bo6b2ob2o3b2ob3o5bobo3b
2ob3o2b4o3bob2o$5b2o4b2obo6b3o6bo4b2o8b2obobobob4o4bo2b2ob2obo3bob2obo
bobo4bo2bobo4b5o7bob2o7bo4bo3bob2obo2b4obo2bobobo4bobobo$4bobobo2b2obo
b4o3bo9b2o8bo2bobo4bo3b5obobobobob2o3bo2bo2bobob2ob4ob4o6b6obobo8b2o3b
ob2o2bo3b2o3bobo2bobo2b4obo2bo$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo16b3o2bobobob2o5bo
bobobobobobo5bob2o2bob2o4bo4b3o2bo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2b2o2b3o2b4o
2bobo4bobo$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o19b2obob2obob3o4b2obobobo2b6obo2b2o5bo
2bo2bo4bo2bo5bob2obo2bo2bo2b2o4bo2b2obobo3b2o4b2obo2bobo2b2o$o3bo3bo3b
2o8b2o21bo3bo9bo2bo3bo3bobo7bobo2b5obobobob4ob2obo3b2o4b2obobob2o2bo2b
2obo5b2obo2bo2bo3bob2obobo$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o19b2obob2obob3o4b2obobo
bo2b6obo2b2o5bo2bo2bo4bo2bo5bob2obo2bo2bo2b2o4bo2b2obobo3b2o4b2obo2bob
o2b2o$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo16b3o2bobobob2o5bobobobobobobo5bob2o2bob2o
4bo4b3o2bo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2b2o2b3o2b4o2bobo4bobo$4bobobo2b2obob
4o3bo9b2o8bo2bobo4bo3b5obobobobob2o3bo2bo2bobob2ob4ob4o6b6obobo8b2o3bo
b2o2bo3b2o3bobo2bobo2b4obo2bo$5b2o4b2obo6b3o6bo4b2o8b2obobobob4o4bo2b
2ob2obo3bob2obobobo4bo2bobo4b5o7bob2o7bo4bo3bob2obo2b4obo2bobobo4bobob
o$5bo2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o6bo14b2o4bo2bo5bobob5o3bobobo2b3o6b4obo3bo2b
o3bo6b2ob2o3b2ob3o5bobo3b2ob3o2b4o3bob2o$4b2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo11bob2o
5bo2bob2obobo2bob3o4b2ob2o4b3ob2o6bo3b2o4bobob3o8bo4b3o2b2o3bo2b2o4b3o
b3o3bo2b2o3bobo$5bobobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o2b3o3b2ob2ob2o4bobo2bo4bobo
5bo3bo2bobo3bobo3bo6bo2bobob2o2bo2bobobo2b4obobo4bobo4bob4obo7bo2b2o3b
o2bo$5bobobobo3bob2obo3bo4b4o4bo5bo2bobo2bob2obob4obo4b2obo2bo2bo2bobo
2bobobobobo3bo2bob2o3bo3bo8bo2bobo5b4o2bo4bob4o7b2obob2o$6bo3bo2b2o3bo
bob2o4bo5b2o4b2obo2bobob2obo2b2o4bob2obobo2bo2bobob2ob2o3bobo3bobobobo
4b4obobo9bobob6o4b2o2b3obo5bo6bobo$11b2o2b3o2b2o6b5obo6bo2b2o2bo3bo2bo
3b3o2bob2o2b2o4bo2bo7bo2b4ob2o2bob3o4b2obobo5bobo2bo7bobo2b2o4bob5o6bo
bo$14bo2bobo3b3o6bobobo4bo6bo3bob2ob2o5bo3bobo8bob5ob2obo8bobo3b2o3bob
obo4b2obobob4ob2obobo2bo3b2obo3b2o5bo$15b2o2bob2o2bo4bo4b2o5b6ob2obobo
2bo2bobobo3bobo9bobo2bobo2bob4obobobob2o2b3o2bobo7bobobo2bobo2bo2b2o
10bo2bo$19b2obo7b2o12bo2bobobo3b2o2b2ob2o5bo19b2obo2bob2o3bobo2bo4b2o
8b2o9b2o15b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by Freywa » February 14th, 2020, 10:09 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:
February 14th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Obviously reducible:

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x = 162, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
19b2obo7b2o12bo2bobobo3b2o2b2ob2o5bo19b2obo2bob2o3bobo2bo4b2o8b2o9b2o
15b2o$15b2o2bob2o2bo4bo4b2o5b6ob2obobo2bo2bobobo3bobo9bobo2bobo2bob4ob
obobob2o2b3o2bobo7bobobo2bobo2bo2b2o10bo2bo$14bo2bobo3b3o6bobobo4bo6bo
3bob2ob2o5bo3bobo8bob5ob2obo8bobo3b2o3bobobo4b2obobob4ob2obobo2bo3b2ob
o3b2o5bo$11b2o2b3o2b2o6b5obo6bo2b2o2bo3bo2bo3b3o2bob2o2b2o4bo2bo7bo2b
4ob2o2bob3o4b2obobo5bobo2bo7bobo2b2o4bob5o6bobo$6bo3bo2b2o3bobob2o4bo
5b2o4b2obo2bobob2obo2b2o4bob2obobo2bo2bobob2ob2o3bobo3bobobobo4b4obobo
9bobob6o4b2o2b3obo5bo6bobo$5bobobobo3bob2obo3bo4b4o4bo5bo2bobo2bob2obo
b4obo4b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobo3bo2bob2o3bo3bo8bo2bobo5b4o2bo4bob4o
7b2obob2o$5bobobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o2b3o3b2ob2ob2o4bobo2bo4bobo5bo3bo
2bobo3bobo3bo6bo2bobob2o2bo2bobobo2b4obobo4bobo4bob4obo7bo2b2o3bo2bo$
4b2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo11bob2o5bo2bob2obobo2bob3o4b2ob2o4b3ob2o6bo3b2o
4bobob3o8bo4b3o2b2o3bo2b2o4b3ob3o3bo2b2o3bobo$5bo2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o
6bo14b2o4bo2bo5bobob5o3bobobo2b3o6b4obo3bo2bo3bo6b2ob2o3b2ob3o5bobo3b
2ob3o2b4o3bob2o$5b2o4b2obo6b3o6bo4b2o8b2obobobob4o4bo2b2ob2obo3bob2obo
bobo4bo2bobo4b5o7bob2o7bo4bo3bob2obo2b4obo2bobobo4bobobo$4bobobo2b2obo
b4o3bo9b2o8bo2bobo4bo3b5obobobobob2o3bo2bo2bobob2ob4ob4o6b6obobo8b2o3b
ob2o2bo3b2o3bobo2bobo2b4obo2bo$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo16b3o2bobobob2o5bo
bobobobobobo5bob2o2bob2o4bo4b3o2bo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2b2o2b3o2b4o
2bobo4bobo$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o19b2obob2obob3o4b2obobobo2b6obo2b2o5bo
2bo2bo4bo2bo5bob2obo2bo2bo2b2o4bo2b2obobo3b2o4b2obo2bobo2b2o$o3bo3bo3b
2o8b2o21bo3bo9bo2bo3bo3bobo7bobo2b5obobobob4ob2obo3b2o4b2obobob2o2bo2b
2obo5b2obo2bo2bo3bob2obobo$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o19b2obob2obob3o4b2obobo
bo2b6obo2b2o5bo2bo2bo4bo2bo5bob2obo2bo2bo2b2o4bo2b2obobo3b2o4b2obo2bob
o2b2o$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo16b3o2bobobob2o5bobobobobobobo5bob2o2bob2o
4bo4b3o2bo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2b2o2b3o2b4o2bobo4bobo$4bobobo2b2obob
4o3bo9b2o8bo2bobo4bo3b5obobobobob2o3bo2bo2bobob2ob4ob4o6b6obobo8b2o3bo
b2o2bo3b2o3bobo2bobo2b4obo2bo$5b2o4b2obo6b3o6bo4b2o8b2obobobob4o4bo2b
2ob2obo3bob2obobobo4bo2bobo4b5o7bob2o7bo4bo3bob2obo2b4obo2bobobo4bobob
o$5bo2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o6bo14b2o4bo2bo5bobob5o3bobobo2b3o6b4obo3bo2b
o3bo6b2ob2o3b2ob3o5bobo3b2ob3o2b4o3bob2o$4b2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo11bob2o
5bo2bob2obobo2bob3o4b2ob2o4b3ob2o6bo3b2o4bobob3o8bo4b3o2b2o3bo2b2o4b3o
b3o3bo2b2o3bobo$5bobobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o2b3o3b2ob2ob2o4bobo2bo4bobo
5bo3bo2bobo3bobo3bo6bo2bobob2o2bo2bobobo2b4obobo4bobo4bob4obo7bo2b2o3b
o2bo$5bobobobo3bob2obo3bo4b4o4bo5bo2bobo2bob2obob4obo4b2obo2bo2bo2bobo
2bobobobobo3bo2bob2o3bo3bo8bo2bobo5b4o2bo4bob4o7b2obob2o$6bo3bo2b2o3bo
bob2o4bo5b2o4b2obo2bobob2obo2b2o4bob2obobo2bo2bobob2ob2o3bobo3bobobobo
4b4obobo9bobob6o4b2o2b3obo5bo6bobo$11b2o2b3o2b2o6b5obo6bo2b2o2bo3bo2bo
3b3o2bob2o2b2o4bo2bo7bo2b4ob2o2bob3o4b2obobo5bobo2bo7bobo2b2o4bob5o6bo
bo$14bo2bobo3b3o6bobobo4bo6bo3bob2ob2o5bo3bobo8bob5ob2obo8bobo3b2o3bob
obo4b2obobob4ob2obobo2bo3b2obo3b2o5bo$15b2o2bob2o2bo4bo4b2o5b6ob2obobo
2bo2bobobo3bobo9bobo2bobo2bob4obobobob2o2b3o2bobo7bobobo2bobo2bo2b2o
10bo2bo$19b2obo7b2o12bo2bobobo3b2o2b2ob2o5bo19b2obo2bob2o3bobo2bo4b2o
8b2o9b2o15b2o!
"Martin's hyperfountain", I suppose?
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by dvgrn » February 14th, 2020, 11:12 pm

Freywa wrote:
February 14th, 2020, 10:09 pm
Extrementhusiast wrote:
February 14th, 2020, 9:13 pm
Obviously reducible:

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x = 162, y = 27, rule = B3/S23...
"Martin's hyperfountain", I suppose?
Yowzers. Before too much time is spent on optimization, does anyone know of an application that actually needs such a ridiculously isolated spark?

Seems like there might be some explosive reaction where the extra spark makes it expand at lightspeed for a couple of ticks, then vanish by the time the next spark arrives. Are there any open problems that have been waiting for a p5 hyperfountain?

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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Post by Extrementhusiast » February 15th, 2020, 1:28 am

Here's a reduction:

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x = 54, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
19b2obo7bo2bo$15b2o2bob2o2bo4b4o$14bo2bobo3b3o18bo2bo2bo$11b2o2b3o2b2o
6b8o8b7o$6bo3bo2b2o3bobob2o4bo6bo$5bobobobo3bob2obo3bo4b5o8b5o2b2o$5bo
bobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o11b2ob2obo2bo$4b2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo7bo15bo$5bo
2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o2bo2bob2o2bo3b2obob2o$5b2o4b2obo6b3o6bo4bo3bobobo
3b3o3bo$4bobobo2b2obob4o3bo9bobobobobob4o3bobo$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo5b
ob2ob2obobo3bo2b2ob2o$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o3b3o7bo2bo$o3bo3bo3b2o8b2o5b
o3b7ob2obo$5b2obo3b2obo4b2o2b3o3b3o7bo2bo$4bo3bo5bobo2bobobo2bo5bob2ob
2obobo3bo2b2ob2o$4bobobo2b2obob4o3bo9bobobobobob4o3bobo$5b2o4b2obo6b3o
6bo4bo3bobobo3b3o3bo$5bo2bo2b2ob4o4b2obobob2o2bo2bob2o2bo3b2obob2o$4b
2obob2ob2o2b2o2b6obo7bo15bo$5bobobobob2o4b2o2bobobob2o11b2ob2obo2bo$5b
obobobo3bob2obo3bo4b5o8b5o2b2o$6bo3bo2b2o3bobob2o4bo6bo$11b2o2b3o2b2o
6b8o8b7o$14bo2bobo3b3o18bo2bo2bo$15b2o2bob2o2bo4b4o$19b2obo7bo2bo!
I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

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