Only one object [GAME]

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by danny » December 29th, 2018, 5:50 am

Please stop spamming. Carriers work in that rule, by the by.
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 5:58 am

I literally said
Help I cant delete my chain of posts
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 6:01 am

Added B4q to disrupt the aircraft carriers.

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x = 4, y = 10, rule = B3aijn4q6n/S2ae3jnr
2o$o2bo$2b2o5$bo$2bo$3o!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Saka » December 29th, 2018, 6:13 am

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Added B4q to disrupt the aircraft carriers.

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x = 4, y = 10, rule = B3aijn4q6n/S2ae3jnr
2o$o2bo$2b2o5$bo$2bo$3o!
you havnt escaped s n e k

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B3aijn4q6n/S2ae3jnr
4$6b2o$7bo$6bo$6b2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 6:33 am

Does it still count even though the glider now has different phases?

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B2e3-j4aqrw5n/S23-a
13b2o9b2obo$12bobo9bob2o$2o10b2o$o2bo$2b2o6$11bo$12bo$10b3o!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Saka » December 29th, 2018, 6:36 am

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Does it still count even though the glider now has different phases?

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B2e3-j4aqrw5n/S23-a
13b2o9b2obo$12bobo9bob2o$2o10b2o$o2bo$2b2o6$11bo$12bo$10b3o!
Have you tried running a soup in that rule?

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x = 40, y = 40, rule = B2e3-j4aqrw5n/S23-a
obob6o2b2o2bo2b3o14bo$3o3b3obo3bo2b2o2bobob2o3b2o2b2o2b2o$bo3b5o7b4obo
2b4obo2b2o3b2o$5b5obobobo2bobo2bo3bob3obo2bo$4bo2bob2o4bobobo2bo2bobo
2b2o2bo2bo$2b3ob2o2bob2o2b2o2b2ob3o3b4o5b2o$4o4bobo2bo2b7obobobobob5ob
2o$3o2bobo2b2ob3obo3b5o2bo2b4obo2bo$bob4o3b3ob2ob3ob2o3bo2b2o2b2obob2o
$obo2b2o7bo2b2obobo2b4o2b4o2bo$6o2b2o4bobob2ob3o2bob3obo2bo2bo$2bo2b3o
bobob3o3bo2bo2b2o2bo2bob2obobo$b2o4b2obo2bo2bob5o2bob2o4bo2b4o$3obo3b
2o3b2obo2bob6ob2o4bob2o$o2b4o2bobo2b2obob4ob2o3b2o2b2o2b2o$b2obob6o2bo
b3obo3b4ob2obo3b3o$2ob3obo4bob2o3bobo2bob4obob2o2b3o$o2bo4b2ob2o3bo6bo
bobo2bobo3b3o$o2b3o2b3o2bo2b2ob2obob3obobobo2bo$2o4bo3bob2ob3o2bobobo
3b4obo2b2o$obo4bo2bob3o2b2o2bob2ob4obo2bo2b2o$4b4obobo2b2ob6ob2o2bob4o
5bo$o2bo2bobob3obo3b2o2b5o3bobo2bo2bo$2b2ob2ob2obobobo2b2obob2obobob3o
bob4o$6bobob2obo5bob2o2b3o2bo2bo2b2o$2b2o2b3o2bo3b2ob5ob2o4bobob2obobo
$4ob2o5b6o2b3obo2bobob2ob3ob2o$2b2obob2o2b2ob2o2b5o2b2obob2ob3obobo$b
4o2b2o8bobobo3bobo2b2ob4o$o2bo3b5o3bob5o3b2o3bo3bo4bo$obo3bobobo6bo4b
3ob3o8b2o$3b2ob3ob2o5b3o2b2obo7b6o$b2o3b3o2bo2b6ob2o2bo2bobobo4b2o$4ob
7o2b5ob7o2bob4ob3o$o5b4ob5obo7b3o6bo4bo$o2b9o4b2o4bobo5bob4ob3o$4b2o2b
obob3ob3o4b2obob2o6bob2o$2o5bo2b2o2b5o4bo2b2obob5ob3o$obob2o2b2ob3o6b
5o2b2o2bob2obobo$ob2o5b2o5b3o2bobo7bo4b2o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 6:40 am

I was only getting rid of the problems that were presented.
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 6:57 am

Okay, I give up. BUT! What about a dot in B/S0?
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by 77topaz » December 29th, 2018, 7:28 am

Bev, posts have an edit button! Please use that instead of making long chains of one-sentence posts.

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » December 29th, 2018, 7:30 am

My name is not Bev, it is Βεν. It is pronounced 'Ben' in ancient greek.
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by PkmnQ » January 3rd, 2019, 1:39 am

Welcome to 2019, where rules with no birth rule are boring.

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x = 30, y = 13, rule = B3-q/S2-c
3o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = AnimatedPixelArt
4.P.qREqWE$4.2tL3vSvX$4.qREqREqREP$4.vS4vXvS2tQ$2.qWE2.qREqWEK$2.2vX
2.vXvSvXvStQtL$qWE2.qWE2.P.K$2vX2.2vX2.tQ2tLtQ$qWE4.qWE$2vX4.2vX$2.qW
EqWE$2.4vX!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Sarp » January 3rd, 2019, 4:56 am

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3-q/S2-c
b2o$o2bo$o2bo$b2o!
failed

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x = 13, y = 4, rule = B3-q4w/S2-c
10b2o$3o6bo2bo$9bo2bo$10b2o!
Does this derivative work?
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by PkmnQ » January 3rd, 2019, 9:31 am

haha no

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x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3-q4w/S2-c
b2o$4o!
I'm not sure if modifying an older version is accepted but I'm doing it nonetheless

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x = 4, y = 2, rule = B3-q/S2-ck
b3!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = AnimatedPixelArt
4.P.qREqWE$4.2tL3vSvX$4.qREqREqREP$4.vS4vXvS2tQ$2.qWE2.qREqWEK$2.2vX
2.vXvSvXvStQtL$qWE2.qWE2.P.K$2vX2.2vX2.tQ2tLtQ$qWE4.qWE$2vX4.2vX$2.qW
EqWE$2.4vX!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Rhombic » January 3rd, 2019, 2:39 pm

B/S0 already works, but in case people are really bothered about pseudo still lifes, then...

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B2ikn/S0
o!
EDIT:
Honestly, shall we give a cash prize to whoever finds a rule that only has one stable object and the cardinality of that object is 1 (i.e. the total number of non-totalistic rules that object exists in is one)
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by danny » January 3rd, 2019, 4:11 pm

Rhombic wrote:EDIT:
Honestly, shall we give a cash prize to whoever finds a rule that only has one stable object and the cardinality of that object is 1 (i.e. the total number of non-totalistic rules that object exists in is one)
I'll try and find one of those later
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by AforAmpere » January 3rd, 2019, 4:30 pm

Rhombic wrote: EDIT:
Honestly, shall we give a cash prize to whoever finds a rule that only has one stable object and the cardinality of that object is 1 (i.e. the total number of non-totalistic rules that object exists in is one)
I wonder if that is theoretically possible. If the pattern is a still-life, then that still life has to form every single possible birth condition somewhere inside or on the outside of it, because otherwise the birth conditions could be added or removed, and so the cardinality would not be 1. The still-life would also have to use every survival condition for a similar reason. Thus, such a still-life cannot exist, as the rule could not have any birth conditions, and all survival conditions would be used, implying infinite distinct still-lives.

The only hopes are oscillators and spaceships. I am not sure if a way exists to make those work in the way you describe, but I'll think about it. Patterns like the Flying Spaghetti Monster are exclusive to certain rules, but are not the only stable patterns.

Oscillators are tricky, because all birth neighborhoods and all survival neighborhoods still have to occur at some point. There are oscillators fitting those conditions, but also being the only stable pattern seems impossible or impossible to find.

Rules that can't work are:
- Rules with B1c
- Rules with S3a without B2a
- Rules with B2c without at least one of S0, B2i, or B1e
- Rules with B2e without at least one of S1c or B1e
- Rules with S2k without at least one of B2e, B2a, or B4w
- Rules with S2c without at least one of B2e, B1e, or B4e
- Rules with S0 without B1e
- Rules with S1c without at least one of B2e or B1e
- Rules with S1e without at least one of B1e or B2a
- Rules with B3a and S3j without at least one of B2a, S2a, or B1e
- Rules with B3a and S2a without at least one of B2a, S2e, or B1e
- Rules with B1e and B2a
- Rules with B1e and S3a
- Rules with B1e, B2c and S2a without at least one of B5i, B3i, S2e or S4i
- Rules with S1e, S1c and B3j without at least one of B2a, S2k, or B1e
- Rules with B2e and B3e without at least one of S1c, S2c or B1e

Less than 25% of B1e rules have any chance, and less than 31% of all rules do, which is still a fairly high percent.
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Hunting » February 4th, 2019, 1:15 am

Failed ship rule.

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x = 20, y = 3, rule = B2e3i/S1c2ce
o17bo$bo15bobo$o17bo!
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Favorite gun ever:

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#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by 77topaz » February 4th, 2019, 3:14 am

Hunting wrote:Failed ship rule.

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x = 20, y = 3, rule = B2e3i/S1c2ce
o17bo$bo15bobo$o17bo!
How about this?

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x = 20, y = 3, rule = B2e3i4e/S1c2ce
o17bo$bo15bobo$o17bo!
Obviously, it's not suitable for the "endemic" challenge, though.

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » February 5th, 2019, 5:53 am

Do agars count? Because I found one in that rule:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2e3i4e/S1c2ce:T10,10
obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobo
bo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Hunting » February 5th, 2019, 6:03 am

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:Do agars count? Because I found one in that rule:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2e3i4e/S1c2ce:T10,10
obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobo
bo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo!
Why not B4e/S?

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B4e/S:T10,10
obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo$obobobo
bo$bobobobobo$obobobobo$bobobobobo!
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Working on:

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Favorite gun ever:

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#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Hunting » February 5th, 2019, 7:31 am

B/S1e.

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x = 0, y = 0, rule = B/S1e
2o!
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#C Favorite Gun. Found by me.
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B2e3i4at/S1c23cijn4a
o2bo$4o3$4o$o2bo!

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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by PkmnQ » February 5th, 2019, 8:05 am

:roll:

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n
obo$2o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = AnimatedPixelArt
4.P.qREqWE$4.2tL3vSvX$4.qREqREqREP$4.vS4vXvS2tQ$2.qWE2.qREqWEK$2.2vX
2.vXvSvXvStQtL$qWE2.qWE2.P.K$2vX2.2vX2.tQ2tLtQ$qWE4.qWE$2vX4.2vX$2.qW
EqWE$2.4vX!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » February 5th, 2019, 12:11 pm

PkmnQ wrote::roll:

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n
obo$2o!
I removed some terms that didn't appear to have a purpose in this submission and I found a p2 ship that you need to remove:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e/S1c2a3n
b2o$obo$2o!
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Moosey » February 5th, 2019, 3:00 pm

Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:
PkmnQ wrote::roll:

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n
obo$2o!
I removed some terms that didn't appear to have a purpose in this submission and I found a p2 ship that you need to remove:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e/S1c2a3n
b2o$obo$2o!
That’s the purpose of the B6n and B4q, you know.
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Re: Only one object [GAME]

Post by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ » February 5th, 2019, 3:17 pm

Moosey wrote:
Βεν Γ. Κυθισ wrote:
PkmnQ wrote::roll:

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2e4q6n/S1c2a3n
obo$2o!
I removed some terms that didn't appear to have a purpose in this submission and I found a p2 ship that you need to remove:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e/S1c2a3n
b2o$obo$2o!
That’s the purpose of the B6n and B4q, you know.
What? I mean, what do you mean the oscillating ship is the purpose of the rules I removed but still had the ship lingering after removal of those?
Last edited by Βεν Γ. Κυθισ on February 5th, 2019, 3:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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