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77topaz
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2718281828 wrote:Two different p8 (now D2_+2_T2):

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2o11bob2ob2ob2obo$4bo2bo10b2obob2obob2o2$22b4o$3b6o9b2o2bo2bo2b2o$2b
ob4obo8bobobo2bobobo$2bob4obo10bobob2obo$2o8b2o7b2obo2bo2bo$bobob2obob o11b2obo2bo$bob6obo12bo$2b8o13bo$23bo2bo$24b3o$2bobo3bobo8bobo3bob2o$o 3bobob2obo6bob3o2b2o2bo$o3b7o8bobo3b3obo$bo4b2o11b3o6bo$20bo$20bo!  The right hand side oscillator is a t-nosed oscillator, actually two p8 noses. Blinkerspawning the right-hand one: Code: Select all x = 12, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 4bo2bo$4b4o2$4b4o$2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo2bobobo$2bobob2obo$b2obo2bo2bo$4b
2obo2bo$5bo$5bo$5bo2bo$6b3o$bobo3bob2o$ob3o2b2o2bo$bobo3b3obo$b3o6bo$2bo$2bo!


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77topaz wrote:
2718281828 wrote:Two different p8 (now D2_+2_T2):

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2o11bob2ob2ob2obo$4bo2bo10b2obob2obob2o2$22b4o$3b6o9b2o2bo2bo2b2o$2b
ob4obo8bobobo2bobobo$2bob4obo10bobob2obo$2o8b2o7b2obo2bo2bo$bobob2obob o11b2obo2bo$bob6obo12bo$2b8o13bo$23bo2bo$24b3o$2bobo3bobo8bobo3bob2o$o 3bobob2obo6bob3o2b2o2bo$o3b7o8bobo3b3obo$bo4b2o11b3o6bo$20bo$20bo!  The right hand side oscillator is a t-nosed oscillator, actually two p8 noses. Blinkerspawning the right-hand one: Code: Select all x = 12, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 4bo2bo$4b4o2$4b4o$2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo2bobobo$2bobob2obo$b2obo2bo2bo$4b
2obo2bo$5bo$5bo$5bo2bo$6b3o$bobo3bob2o$ob3o2b2o2bo$bobo3b3obo$b3o6bo$2bo$2bo!

That can of course be reduced further, but a the price of temporal glide-symmetry:

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x = 12, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o2$4b4o$2o2bo2bo2b2o$obobo2bobobo$2bobob2obo$b2obo2bo2bo$4b2ob o2bo$5bo$5bo$5bo2bo$6b3o$bobo3bob2o$ob3o2b2o2bo$bobo3b3obo$b3o6bo$2bo$2bo!  I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" 2718281828 Posts: 738 Joined: August 8th, 2017, 5:38 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread The last p8 oscillators from my D2_+2_T2 (glide-symmetric) search: Code: Select all x = 51, y = 46, rule = B3/S23 4$13bo$8b3obobo3b2o$8b4o2bo3b2o22b2o$12b3o26bo2bo$12b2o27bo2bo$13b2o$
13bo2bo23bo4bo$13bob2o22bob4obo$9b2o3bo3bo20bo6bo$9b2o5bo2bo17b2obo4bo b2o$9b2o7b2o18bo8bo$8b2o7b3o18bob6obo$9bo8bo20bo6bo$10bo5bobo$10bo5bob
o26bo$9bo8bo20bobo5bo$8b2o7b3o17b5o3b2obo$9b2o7b2o17b3o2b4o2bo$9b2o5bo
2bo$9b2o3bo3bo$13bob2o$13bo2bo26b3o$13b2o24b2obobobo$12b2o24bo2b2obobo$12b3o27b4o$8b4o2bo3b2o18bo3bo$8b3obobo3b2o18bo5bo$13bo25bo4b5o$39bobo
5b2o$46bo$38bobo5bo$39bo5bo$42bob3o$40bobob3o$43bo$41bo$41bo!

And a final partial:

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x = 13, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
6bo3bo$4bobob3o$5b2o3bo$4bob2o$5b4obo$4bo3bobo2$2bo2bobo3bo$bobobob3ob o$bo5bo2b2o$2bo3bobo$7b3o$4bobo$4bob4o$6b4o$3b2o3bobo$3bob4ob2o$3bo4bo
bo$7bob2o$8bo$6b2o$6b3o2bo$2b3o3b2o2bo$bobob3o3bo$5bo3bobo$5b2obobo$b 2obo$2bo6b2o$2b2obobo2bo$2bo3bo2b3o$b2obo3b3o$2bob2o3bo$3b2ob3o$4b5o2$10bo$6b3obo$3b2obo4bo$3b2ob2obobo$3bo3bo2$4b2o2bo$4bo$2b2o2b5o$4bobo3b o$6b4o$7b2o$8bo$5b2o$5b2o$5b2o$6bo$6bo!  I used a search script that is not designed for oscillator searches. So with a suitable 'glide-symmetric'-oscillator search script we would like be able to find much more interesting oscillators, esp. sparkers. As it is in general much easier to find a glide symmetric oscillator, I would expect that we could find interesting oscillators esp. for p10 and p12 maybe even p14 (ofind basically works till p7). It might be that a p14 G-gun could be found using such a modification so every 7 generations a glider is 'sparked'. Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 1474 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: r cis θ ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Is this the smallest stabilization of a pulsar-like (L-nose) rotor? Code: Select all x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 4bo$4bo$3b2o2$o2bo$4o3b3o$4b2obo$2o2bo$obobo$b2ob2o! "A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist!' 'However,' replied the universe, 'The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i 4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!  Macbi Posts: 713 Joined: March 29th, 2009, 4:58 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Is this the smallest stabilization of a pulsar-like (L-nose) rotor? Code: Select all x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 4bo$4bo$3b2o2$o2bo$4o3b3o$4b2obo$2o2bo$obobo$b2ob2o! Yes. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6277 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Is this the smallest stabilization of a pulsar-like (L-nose) rotor? Code: Select all x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 4bo$4bo$3b2o2$o2bo$4o3b3o$4b2obo$2o2bo$obobo$b2ob2o! No, pulsar quadrant (below, middle) is a bit smaller and lower population. And depending on how pulsar-like you want, jam (below, left) stabilizes a singleton L shape in a similar way, but with a different cell configuration for one of the three phases: Code: Select all x = 34, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 3bo11bo12bo$3bo11bo12bo$2b2obo8b2o11b2o$bo3b2o6bo$obo9bobo2b3o4bo2bo$o
2bo8bo2bobo6b4o3b3o$b2o8b2o3bo11b2obo$13b3o8b2o2bo$13bo10bobobo$25b2ob
2o!
Both of these are slightly different rotors from the one posted, but at least the "nose" ends match.

Hdjensofjfnen
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dvgrn wrote:
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Is this the smallest stabilization of a pulsar-like (L-nose) rotor?

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4bo$3b2o2$o2bo$4o3b3o$4b2obo$2o2bo$obobo$b2ob2o!
No, pulsar quadrant (below, middle) is a bit smaller and lower population. And depending on how pulsar-like you want, jam (below, left) stabilizes a singleton L shape in a similar way, but with a different cell configuration for one of the three phases:

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x = 34, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3bo11bo12bo$3bo11bo12bo$2b2obo8b2o11b2o$bo3b2o6bo$obo9bobo2b3o4bo2bo$o 2bo8bo2bobo6b4o3b3o$b2o8b2o3bo11b2obo$13b3o8b2o2bo$13bo10bobobo$25b2ob 2o! Both of these are slightly different rotors from the one posted, but at least the "nose" ends match. Hmm... jam is even a pseudo-T-nose, because it has a 2-cell protrusion in one phase, and the red cells to the SW and SE of the tip are always dead in all phases but the one before the nose appears. "A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist!' 'However,' replied the universe, 'The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i 4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!  Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 1474 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: r cis θ ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread This object has occurred a great number of times in symmetric soups on Catagolue, but I don't see anything on the wiki for it: Code: Select all x = 256, y = 1, rule = B3/S23 bbbooobbboboboboooobbooobboboboooobbbbbbboobbboboooobooooboobbbbbooobobbboboboooboobobobobbboobbboobooobbooooobbboooobbooooooooooobbobooobboboobooboobobbbbbobobbobobboboobobooobbobobobbooooooobooobbobbbbbbbbbobboobooobbobbbbooobbbobboobbboooobbboooobbbbboo! "A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist!' 'However,' replied the universe, 'The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i 4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!  Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1625 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote:This object has occurred a great number of times in symmetric soups on Catagolue, but I don't see anything on the wiki for it That's because it doesn't meet the notability guidelines. It's included in the jslife collection, and I don't think it needs anything beyond that - unless some new and novel use for it is found. -Matthias Merzenich Entity Valkyrie Posts: 247 Joined: November 30th, 2017, 3:30 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Is this p14 honey farrm wick stabiliziable? Code: Select all x = 14, y = 247, rule = B3/S23 2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo 2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$
7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2b
o$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$
3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2b obo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b 3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo
$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b
2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o 10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b
2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b
2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bob o5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$
2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b 2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o
5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b 2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b
2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b 2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5b
o2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b 3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo
$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo 5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$6b3o$6bo2bo$7b2o$2o10b2o$o2b2o5bo
2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo$12b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6b3o$2o10b2o$
o2b2o5bo2bo$b2obo5b3o$2bo$2bobo5b3o$3b2o5bo2bo12b2o!  77topaz Posts: 1467 Joined: January 12th, 2018, 9:19 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread There's a p14 in Golly's honey-farm-hasslers.rle, though that has the HFs diagonally aligned instead of orthogonally: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 12bo6bo6bo5b3o4bobo$5bobo7bo2bobo$5bobo6b2o4bo5b2o$3b3ob2o17bo$2bo13b
3o5bobo$3b3ob2o6bo3bo4b2o$5bob2o5bo5bo$14bo5bo$14bo5bo$15bo3bo$9b3o4b
3o$8bo3bo$7bo5bo$7bo5bo$7bo5bo5b2obo$2b2o4bo3bo6b2ob3o$bobo5b3o13bo$bo 17b2ob3o$2o5bo4b2o6bobo$7bobo2bo7bobo$6bobo4b3o5bo8bo6bo!  Have you looked in jslife? Entity Valkyrie Posts: 247 Joined: November 30th, 2017, 3:30 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Yes, I have, but I am interested in how to stabilise the orthogonal one. Entity Valkyrie Posts: 247 Joined: November 30th, 2017, 3:30 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread 77topaz wrote:There's a p14 in Golly's honey-farm-hasslers.rle, though that has the HFs diagonally aligned instead of orthogonally: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 12bo6bo6bo5b3o4bobo$5bobo7bo2bobo$5bobo6b2o4bo5b2o$3b3ob2o17bo$2bo13b
3o5bobo$3b3ob2o6bo3bo4b2o$5bob2o5bo5bo$14bo5bo$14bo5bo$15bo3bo$9b3o4b
6bo4b2o8b2o2bo$8bo4bo2bo8b3o$bo12bobo$o6b2o6bo7b3o$bobo19bo2bo$bobobob 2o10b2ob5o$6bo12bob2o3bobo$20bo6b2o!  dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6277 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Entity Valkyrie wrote:This P6 bumper can optimise guns... Which guns, specifically? Optimizations along these lines have already been applied in a lot of places, but with a somewhat smaller p6 sparker, or at least a more weldable one. Here's pseudo p21, for example, with row-saving p6 bumpers at the top and bottom: Code: Select all x = 190, y = 143, rule = LifeHistory 30.A67.2A5.2A$30.3A10.2A53.A.A.ABAB.A12.A$33.A8.A2.A54.ABA2B.2A12.3A$
32.2A8.A.A.A53.A2.B2.5B7.2A3.A$32.4B5.2A.A.A54.3A4.3BAB4.A.B.2A2.A$
34.BAB2.BAB.B.A.2A54.B3.5B2A3B2A2B.A.2A$33.BABA.2B2ABA.A2.A50.4A3.10B .3AB.A$30.2A.B2A2B.BAB.B2AB.A.2A46.A2.2B4.4BABA2B2.ABA.A$30.2A7B2.2A. BAB2A2.A45.A.A2B.A4.3B2AB4.ABA.2A$31.7B4.A.ABA2.2A38.2A6.A.A2.A.A4.5B
5.2A.A$31.7B4.A.5A38.2B2AB6.A3.A.A3.7B7.A$32.6B5.A4.A38.4B12.A3.4B.4B
6.3A$31.8B5.4A39.2BA16.4B3.4B8.A$30.4B2.4B6.A40.BABA3.B10.4B5.4B6.A.A
$29.4B4.3BA7.A39.AB.A.B2A8.4B7.4B5.A.AB$7.2A5.2A12.4B6.3BA5.2A41.2BAB
2A7.4B9.4B5.A3B$6.B2AB3.B2AB10.4B8.3AB47.2A3B7.4B11.4B6.4B$6.3B5.3B9.
4B10.4B47.4B6.4B13.4B5.6B$7.B.B3.B.B9.4B12.4B49.3B3.4B6.A8.4B4.7B$5.
2BA3B.3BA2B6.4B14.4B48.3B2.4B7.3A7.4B2.8B.4B.B$4.2B3A2B.2B3A2B4.4B16. 4B47.BA6B5.A5.A7.17B.B2A$5.BA4B.4BAB4.4B18.4B45.BABA4B6.6A.A7.18B2A$5.2B3A3.3A2B3.4B20.4B44.A2BA3B12.A.A7.6BA9B.2B$5.6B.6B2.4B22.4B42.2B
2A5B6.2AB2A2.2A6.4B2AB2A7B$4.6BA.A6BA3B24.4B41.10B5.2AB2ABA8.4B2AB2A 6B$5.6B.7B2AB26.4B40.6B.4B5.2B2A.A6.2AB.12B17.A$7.B.B3.B.B2.ABAB27.4B 37.2AB.3B3.4B6.2BA6.A.AB2.11B17.3A$6.3B5.3B.5B27.4B35.A.AB2.B5.2B2A6.
B7.A5.10B21.A12.A$6.B2AB3.B2AB3.4B27.4B34.A12.2A2B3.3B6.2A5.10B20.2A 12.3A$7.2A5.2A5.4B27.4B32.2A13.BA2B2.3B12.11B20.5B7.2A3.A$22.4B27.4B 47.8B13.10B22.3BAB4.A.A.2A2.A$23.4B27.4B47.4B3AB12.8B.B2A.A17.3BABA5B
ABA.A.2A6.A$24.4B27.4B47.3BABAB11.7B3.B2AB3A14.4BA2BA2B.4B.A8.BAB$25.
4B27.4B45.5B2A2B10.6B6.B4.A14.4B2A3B2.BAB.A9.AB$26.4B27.4B43.10B11.6B 4.2A.3A2.2A12.6B4.2BA.2A7.2BABA$27.4B27.3BA41.4B.6B3.2A6.5B4.A2.2A2.
2A.A13.5B5.2A.A9.A.2AB.2A$28.4B27.3BA39.4B3.3B.B2A2.A5.8B.A.A4.A6.A9. 7B7.A10.6A.A$29.4B27.3AB25.2A10.4B5.B2.BA.2A6.8BA.A.2A.2A.6A8.4B.4B6.
3A9.2B4.A$30.4B27.4B25.A9.4B12.A7.B3A2B.2BAB.A3.A.A12.4B3.4B8.A10.4A$
31.4B27.4B22.A10.4B13.A6.3BABAB2.2B2.A3.A2.BAB2A6.4B5.4B6.A.A8.BA.B$32.4B27.4B21.5A5.4B5.2A6.2A.AB3.2BA2BAB3.B.2A.2A.A4B2A5.4B7.2BAB5.A.A B7.BA.2A$33.4B27.4B25.A4.4B5.A6.A2.2AB2.3BA2BAB2.A.A2.A.A.A.B2AB5.4B
9.2B2A5.A3B7.A3B$34.4B27.4B21.3AB2.7B.BA.A6.2A3.6BABA2B2.2A2.A5.2AB6. 4B11.2A2B6.4B7.BA$35.4B27.4B19.A.2B3.7B.B2A12.6BA2BAB7.2A4.B6.4B13.4B
5.6B6.BA$36.4B27.4B18.4A12B14.7B2A2B8.A4.3B3.4B6.A8.4B4.7B3.BA.A$37.
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o$29bo46bo2bo3b3o$28bobo46b2o6b2o$28b2o56bo$18bobo64bobo$19b2o64b2o$
19bo4b2o49bobo$23bo2bo49b2o$23bobo3bo46bo4b2o$24bo4b3o48bo2bo$17b2o13b
o47bobo$16bobo12b2o5bo42bo$b2o6bo6bo19b2o5bo$bobo3b2obo4b2o6bo13b2o3bo bo3bo$3b5ob2o10b2obobobo13bobo2bobo$3bo2bo19bobo14bob3obo30bo$4b3o7bo
6b2o6bo4b2o8b2o2bo29b2obobobo$13bobo12bo4bo2bo8b3o35bobo$2b3o8bo2bo4bo
12bobo41b2o6bo$bo2b2o8b2o4bo6b2o6bo7b3o39bo$ob3obo14bobo19bo2bo31bo$ob o2bobo13bobobob2o10b2ob5o30bo6b2o$bo3bobo3b2o13bo6b2o4bob2o3bobo29bobo
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64b2o$19bobo64bobo$20bo56b2o$20b2o6b2o46bobo$21b3o3bo2bo46bo$21bobo2bo b2o47b2o6b2o$21bobob3o50b3o3bo2bo$20b3o2bobo50bobo2bob2o$19bo5bob2o49b
obob3o$19b2o5bo2bo47b3o2bobo$27b2o47bo5bob2o$76b2o5bo2bo$84b2o!


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Is this p4 oscillator (that looks like a mold missing its spark) stabilised by 2 molds known?

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bo2bo$8bobo2bo$9bo$5b2o3b2obo$4bo2bo4bo$4bobo$5bob2o$b2o3b2obo$o 2bo3b2o$obo2bo$bo$2b2obo$4bo!  Reduction of 246P3 (a variant of 258P3) to 244P3: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b
3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o
3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o
6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$2obo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bob2o$o3b2o2bo10bo2b 2o3bo$b3o5b3o4b3o5b3o$3bo7bo4bo7bo!  BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1938 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Entity Valkyrie wrote:Reduction of 246P3 (a variant of 258P3) to 244P3: Code: Select all rle  Which can be trivially reduced another 2 cells: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 24, rule = B3/S23 13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b
3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o
3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o
6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$2obo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bob2o$o3b2o2bo10bo2b 2o3bo$b3o5bo8bo5b3o$3bo4b2o8b2o4bo!  Or rather non-trivially reduced another four, at the expense of a row added to the bounding box: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23 13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b
3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o
3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o
6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$3bo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bo$4b3o2bo8bo2b3o$b3o
20b3o$bo2bo18bo2bo$3b2o18b2o!

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Entity Valkyrie wrote:Reduction of 246P3 (a variant of 258P3) to 244P3:

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rle

Which can be trivially reduced another 2 cells:

Code: Select all

x = 28, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$
b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b 3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o 3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b
ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o 6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$2obo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bob2o$o3b2o2bo10bo2b
2o3bo$b3o5bo8bo5b3o$3bo4b2o8b2o4bo!

Or rather non-trivially reduced another four, at the expense of a row added to the bounding box:

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x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$
b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b 3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o 3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b
ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o 6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$3bo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bo$4b3o2bo8bo2b3o$b3o 20b3o$bo2bo18bo2bo$3b2o18b2o!  Or further trivially reduced by two cells: Code: Select all x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23 13b2o2$3b2o3bob2o4b2obo3b2o$2bo3bobo3b4o3bobo3bo$2bobo5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o2b2o6b2o$o2b3o4b2o4b2o4b3o2bo$2o4b3o3b4o3b3o4b2o$2b3ob3o10b
3ob3o$2o5bo4b4o4bo5b2o$bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo$o2b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo3b3o2bo$b2o
3b2o3b6o3b2o3b2o$2bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o4bobo$2bob2obobo3b2o3bobob2obo$b2o2b ob5o4b5obo2b2o$o2bob2o4b6o4b2obo2bo$bobobobobo8bobobobobo$2obo6b3o2b3o
6bob2o$3b2o2b2o3bo2bo3b2o2b2o$3bo2bo2b3o4b3o2bo2bo$4b3o2bo8bo2b3o2$3bob2o14b2obo$3b2obo14bob2o!  x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 1474 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: r cis θ ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Entity Valkyrie wrote:Is this p4 oscillator (that looks like a mold missing its spark) stabilised by 2 molds known? Code: Select all x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$8bobo2bo$9bo$5b2o3b2obo$4bo2bo4bo$4bobo$5bob2o$b2o3b2obo$o
2bo3b2o$obo2bo$bo$2b2obo$4bo!

It might not be, actually... "peanut butter"?
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!


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Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
Entity Valkyrie wrote:Is this p4 oscillator (that looks like a mold missing its spark) stabilised by 2 molds known?

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bo2bo$8bobo2bo$9bo$5b2o3b2obo$4bo2bo4bo$4bobo$5bob2o$b2o3b2obo$o 2bo3b2o$obo2bo$bo$2b2obo$4bo!  It might not be, actually... "peanut butter"? Drop the peanut, It's fine as "butter." It can probably be found somewhere. EDIT: eliminations: It's not in the golly pattern collection. (Though there is this mold supported oscillator): Code: Select all x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$7bobobo$7bo2bo$6bo$7bobo$4bo$2b2obo5b2o$bo8bo2bo3b2o$obo2b
o3bo2bo3bo2bo$o2bo4bo5bo2bobo$b2o4bo10bo$7bobo4bob2o$8bo6bo$10bobo$13b
o$9bo2bo$8bobobo$8bo2bo$9b2o!

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New p30 traffic light hassler found by carybe (see discussion here):

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x = 30, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b3o18b3o$2bo3bo16bo3bo$bo5bo2b3o4b3o2bo5bo$10bobo4bobo$o7bob3o4b3obo
7bo$o7bo12bo7bo2$bo5bo14bo5bo$2bo3bo16bo3bo$3b3o18b3o!
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Entity Valkyrie wrote:Is this p4 oscillator (that looks like a mold missing its spark) stabilised by 2 molds known? ...
Congratulations! I'm pretty sure I've never seen this one before.
Hdjensofjfnen wrote:It might not be, actually... "peanut butter"?
Moosey wrote:Drop the peanut, It's fine as "butter."
Butter sounds great, although it would probably make sense to use that name for the interior, as it can not only be supported by two cis molds, but also two trans molds or one cis and one trans mold, and probably a number of other P4 diagonal sparkers.

I haven't figured out a way to make the interior part yet, but it looks like it shouldn't be too hard to make by mutilating a jam or loaf-siamese-barge while the molds are brought in from the outside. The two-trans-mold version will likely be the hardest to make, due to cramped quarters.

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x = 104, y = 112, rule = B3/S23
25bo$19bo3boo$19bobobboo$19boo4$18bo11bo$17bobo8boo27boo38boo$16bobo5b
o4boo25bobbo36bobbo$16boo6bobo29bobobbo34bobobbo$24boo31bo39bo$13boo 13bo24boo3boobo31boo3boobo$12bobbo11boo23bobbo4bo31bobbo4bo$12bobo12bo bo22bobo37bobo$13bo39bo39boboo$9boo38boo21bobobo12boo3boobo$8bobo37bo
bbo36bobbo3boo$7bobo38bobobbo34bobobbo$boo5bo40bo39bo$obo47boobo36boob o$bbo49bo39bo3$oo7boo$boo5bobo$o9bo$14bo$13boo$7boo4bobo$8boo$7bo9$25b o$19bo3boo$19bobobboo$19boo4$18bo11bo$17bobo8boo27boo38boo$16bobo5bo4b oo25bobbo36bobbo$16boo6bobo29bobobbo34bobobbo$24boo31bo39bo$13boo13bo
24boo3boobo31boo3boobo$12bobbo11boo23bobbo4bo31bobbo4bo$12bobo12bobo
22bobo37bobo$13bo39bo39boboo$bbo69bobobo17boobo$3boo90boo$bboo47bobo
37bobo$50bo39bo$51bobbo36bobbo$5b3o6boo35bobobo35bobobo$bo5bo5bobo36bo
bbo36bobbo$boo3bo5bobo38boo38boo$obo10bo5$6bo3b3o$6boo4bo$5bobo3bo10$
22bobo$17bo4boo$18boo3bo$17boo$21bo$20bo8bobo$20b3o6boo$30bo$$29bo29bo bo37bobo$28bo29bo39bo$13boo8bo4b3o22boo4bobbo30boo4bobbo$12bobbo6bobo
27bobbo3bobobo28bobbo3bobobo$12bobo6bobo28bobo5bobbo28bobo5bobbo$13bo
7boo30bo7boo30boboo4boo$bbo69bobobo17boobo$3boo90boo$bboo47bobo37bobo$
50bo39bo$51bobbo36bobbo$5b3o6boo35bobobo35bobobo$bo5bo5bobo36bobbo36bo bbo$boo3bo5bobo38boo38boo$obo10bo5$6bo3b3o$6boo4bo$5bobo3bo!


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For butter, I would rather have it listed as "butter stabilized by 2 cis/trans molds", and refer the hassled object as "butter".

This reaction might help synthesise it:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$4bobobo$5bob3o$b2o4b3o$o2bo$obobo5b3o$bo2bo5bo$5bo5bo$2bob o!  The three distinct versions: Code: Select all x = 16, y = 44, rule = B3/S23 9b2o$8bo2bo$8bobobo$9bo2bo$5b2o6bo$4bo2bo2bobo$4bobobo$5bob3o$b2o4bobo$o2bo4bo$obobo$bo2bo$5bo$2bobo3$11bo$10bob2o$5b2o7bo$4bo2bo2bo2bobo$4b obobo3bo2bo$5bob3o3b2o$b2o4bobo$o2bo4bo$obobo$bo2bo$5bo$2bobo3$11bo$
10bob2o$5b2o7bo$4bo2bo2bo2bobo$4bobobo3bo2bo$5bob3o3b2o$7bobo$8bo$3bo$
2bob2o$6bo$2bo2bobo$4bo2bo$5b2o!

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