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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » March 30th, 2019, 9:30 am

rowett wrote:
muzik wrote:Found a way to make cells invisible:

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x = 11, y = 6, rule = B13579B/S13579BT
o3b3obo$o3bobobo$o3bobobo$o3bobobo$o3bobobo$3ob3ob3o!
[[ SQUARECELLS HEXDISPLAY ]]
Fixed, thanks.
Still currently experiencing it, has the fixed version just not been uploaded yet?

I'm planning on working on a version of the isotropic non-totalistic range-2 von Neumann neighbourhood notation that conflicts with as few things as possible (including the triangular notation).

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » March 30th, 2019, 1:50 pm

muzik wrote:Still currently experiencing it, has the fixed version just not been uploaded yet?
No. I'll post a notification here when I upload a build that's ready for testing.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » March 30th, 2019, 5:29 pm

Bounded grids don't seem to work:

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x = 9, y = 3, rule = B45/S34L:T21,20
6bobo$b3o2b3o$b3o3b2o!
Case in point:

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x = 196, y = 199, rule = B13579Y/S02468XZL:T200,200
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by dvgrn » April 1st, 2019, 6:14 am

I think this might be the strangest LifeViewer bug I've found yet. A glider aimed to pass through one specific point on the Life plane disappears from that location and almost instantly reappears 12 cells to the left.

EDIT: The more I investigate it the more it looks like an actual flaw in the Conway's Life universe -- a wormhole in Life space, more or less. Exactly the same thing happens in Golly, Life32 and MCell. I even fired up my old Linux box and tried Xlife, with the same result. Here I've added long boats to mark the wormhole endpoints:

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x = 41, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bobo$24bobo$24b2o7$2b2o$bobo$obo$bo11$39bo$38b2o$38bobo












$$$
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14$66bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo$65bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo
97bobo$64bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo97bobo$64b2o98b2o98b2o98b2o
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41bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo11$79bo99bo385b3o99bo$78b2o98b2o385bo100b
2o$78bobo97bobo385bo99bobo26$o99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo99bo!
#C [[ THEME Mono THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 3 HEIGHT 480 GPS 10 LOOP 200 X -300 Y 20 Z 8.9 AUTOSTART PAUSE 2 ]]
#C [[ T 75 PAUSE 0 X -200 ]]
#C [[ T 76 PAUSE 0 X -100 ]]
#C [[ T 77 PAUSE 0 X 0 ]]
#C [[ T 78 PAUSE 0 X 100 ]]
#C [[ T 79 PAUSE 0 X 200 ]]
#C [[ T 80 PAUSE 0 X 300 ]]
I guess it's not too surprising this wasn't seen before. LifeViewer couldn't display this location -- (13703,5999) -- until the MAXGRIDSIZE 14 option was added. Any lack of resemblance to the old standard party trick with a Bambleweeny 57 Sub-Meson Brain is entirely coincidental.

However, that's nothing compared to what happens when you send an LWSS through the wormhole: it reappears in the shifted location in the form of a small c/18 spaceship. I haven't dared to try MWSS or HWSS yet, let alone a Sir Robin.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by Saka » April 1st, 2019, 6:21 am

dvgrn wrote:Wormhole explanation
Amazing, I wonder if this happens in other rules as well. It will be very useful for the Quantum Computer!

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by googoIpIex » April 1st, 2019, 7:13 am

Very impressive!
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by Moosey » April 1st, 2019, 9:19 am

Nice April fools prank.

Scroll down the RLE, and you’ll see how I found it. Or you can zoom out.
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 1st, 2019, 11:30 am

muzik wrote:Bounded grids don't seem to work
True. They haven't been implemented for triangular grids yet. When they do the width will need to be even or it can't wrap properly.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 1st, 2019, 12:15 pm

dvgrn wrote:I think this might be the strangest LifeViewer bug I've found yet. A glider aimed to pass through one specific point on the Life plane disappears from that location and almost instantly reappears 12 cells to the left.
I've managed to reproduce this. 12 in hex is C which is the speed of light on the grid. No idea how to fix this yet but thanks for reporting!

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by googoIpIex » April 1st, 2019, 2:11 pm

It’s really hard to close life veiwer on ipad
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 1st, 2019, 3:16 pm

googoIpIex wrote:It’s really hard to close life veiwer on ipad
Tap on the bottom right button and then tap on the X button that appears above it.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 1st, 2019, 5:09 pm

Can the red x button on the top right be made easier to use on ipad? It usually doesn't work at all in freshly opened windows and only really works if you scroll through the page first.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 1st, 2019, 5:13 pm

muzik wrote:Can the red x button on the top right be made easier to use on ipad? It usually doesn't work at all in freshly opened windows and only really works if you scroll through the page first.
Don't know. It should work since it's just an anchor and it works fine on desktop browsers.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 2nd, 2019, 10:05 am

Can the option of defining different shapes for plane bounded grids be added (for example, on a hexagonal grid, a bounding hexagon instead of a rhombus)?

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 2nd, 2019, 4:31 pm

muzik wrote:Can the option of defining different shapes for plane bounded grids be added (for example, on a hexagonal grid, a bounding hexagon instead of a rhombus)?
Unlikely. If it does happen it won't be any time soon.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 2nd, 2019, 5:55 pm

"Hexagon" being on when "Hex" is off isn't any different from when both are off. Instead, when hexagon is on while hex is off, can the slanted hexagon icons from Golly be applied?

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 3rd, 2019, 2:06 am

muzik wrote:"Hexagon" being on when "Hex" is off isn't any different from when both are off. Instead, when hexagon is on while hex is off, can the slanted hexagon icons from Golly be applied?
No. Slanted hexagon icons are needed in Golly because it doesn't have the square offset grid.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 3rd, 2019, 6:19 am

Eh. I thought it would have made sense, with "Hex" making the grid display hexagonally and "Hexagon" making the cells themselves hexagonal.

Anyway, would it make any more sense to instead make the Hex button into a sort of "modulo-3" button, which cycles between squares, offset squares and true hexagons when clicked, in order to save on space in the menu? A similar argument could be made for the FPS button.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by googoIpIex » April 3rd, 2019, 9:10 am

Here’s a semi-miscellaneous suggestion:
Add a feature with oscar.py functionality into lifeviewer
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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 3rd, 2019, 3:39 pm

googoIpIex wrote:Here’s a semi-miscellaneous suggestion:
Add a feature with oscar.py functionality into lifeviewer
Interesting idea but not a priority. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 3rd, 2019, 7:28 pm

Is it just me, or is the site down?


Also, will MAP strings for the triangular neighbourhood be supported? (We might need to differentiate these from range-2 von Neumann map strings in the future...)

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 4th, 2019, 1:31 am

muzik wrote:Is it just me, or is the site down?
It's up again.
muzik wrote:Also, will MAP strings for the triangular neighbourhood be supported?
I'm not sure. The triangular Moore neighbourhood would need MAP strings 1369 characters in length.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 5th, 2019, 6:43 am

Will MAP strings be added for triangular von Neumann?

Also, will there be a Moore vertices neighbourhood?

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B13/S024MV
o!

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by rowett » April 5th, 2019, 7:23 am

muzik wrote:Will MAP strings be added for triangular von Neumann?
Not planned.
muzik wrote:Also, will there be a Moore vertices neighbourhood?
Also not planned.

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Re: Pattern viewer for forum threads

Post by muzik » April 5th, 2019, 8:22 am

There are still borders visible between triangular cells (forming a sort of rhombic tiling) even with cellborders disabled:

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B123456789XYZ/S0123456789XYZL
o!
Hexagons also seem to intersect each other slightly with cellborders turned off, but I highly doubt this really warrants a fix (given it likely happens to prevent the above from happening).

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B2/SH
o3bo$o3bo3$o3bo$o3bo!
Just one more neighbourhood suggestion: how about a 15-cell neighbourhood that also includes these three cells at the very tips, giving a perfect triangle instead of a wonky hexagon?

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B/SL
$b7o$2b2ob2o$3b3o$4bo!
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