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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Moosey » July 25th, 2019, 8:27 pm

The same can be done for any sufficiently sparky ships:

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x = 42, y = 146, rule = B3/S23
6bo5bo16bo5bo$5bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo$4bo3bobo3bo12bo3bobo3bo$4bo3bobo
3bo12bo3bobo3bo$4bob2o3b2obo12bob2o3b2obo$4bo4bo4bo12bo4bo4bo$3bo4bobo
4bo10bo4bobo4bo$3bo11bo10bo11bo$5b2obobob2o14b2obobob2o$9bo22bo$3b2o9b
2o10b2o9b2o$3b3o7b3o10b3o7b3o$3bo3bo3bo3bo10bo3bo3bo3bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo
12bo2bo3bo2bo$4bo9bo12bo9bo$6b3ob3o16b3ob3o$4bobo5bobo12bobo5bobo$4bo
9bo12bo9bo$4bo9bo12bo9bo$6b3ob3o16b3ob3o$6bo2bo2bo16bo2bo2bo$5b2ob3ob
2o14b2ob3ob2o$4b2o7b2o12b2o7b2o$4b2o2bobo2b2o12b2o2bobo2b2o$2bo13bo8bo
13bo$2bo2b4ob4o2bo8bo2b4ob4o2bo$5bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo$bobo2b2o3b2o2b
obo6bobo2b2o3b2o2bobo$2bo3bobobobo3bo8bo3bobobobo3bo$7b5o18b5o$8b3o20b
3o$9bo22bo$6b3ob3o16b3ob3o$3bo3bo3bo3bo10bo3bo3bo3bo$6bo5bo16bo5bo$2bo
b2o7b2obo8bob2o7b2obo$2bo3b2o3b2o3bo8bo3b2o3b2o3bo$7bo3bo18bo3bo$bo5bo
3bo5bo6bo5bo3bo5bo$bo3bo7bo3bo6bo3bo7bo3bo$o2bo11bo2bo4bo2bo11bo2bo$bo
4b2o3b2o4bo6bo4b2o3b2o4bo$2bo4b2ob2o4bo3b2o3bo4b2ob2o4bo$4b3o5b3o5b2o
5b3o5b3o3$2b3o9b3o8b3o9b3o$2b4o7b4o8b4o7b4o$2bo3bo5bo3bo8bo3bo5bo3bo$
6bo5bo16bo5bo$2bo13bo8bo13bo$2bo13bo8bo13bo$b2o13b2o6b2o13b2o$b2o13b2o
6b2o13b2o$b2o2bo7bo2b2o6b2o2bo7bo2b2o$2b2o11b2o8b2o11b2o$3bo3bo3bo3bo
10bo3bo3bo3bo$4bo3bobo3bo12bo3bobo3bo$4bo3bobo3bo12bo3bobo3bo$3b2obobo
bobob2o10b2obobobobob2o$4bo9bo12bo9bo$5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o$6b3ob3o16b3ob
3o$9bo22bo$7bobobo18bobobo$8b3o20b3o2$7b2ob2o18b2ob2o$7b2ob2o18b2ob2o$
4b2o7b2o12b2o7b2o$5b2obobob2o14b2obobob2o$6b3ob3o16b3ob3o$6bo5bo16bo5b
o2$4b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o$4b2o7b2o12b2o7b2o$3bo3b2ob2o3bo10bo3b2ob2o3bo$b4o
9b4o6b4o9b4o$9bo22bo$bo2b2obo3bob2o2bo6bo2b2obo3bob2o2bo$7bo3bo18bo3bo
2$3b3o7b3o10b3o7b3o3$5b3o3b3o14b3o3b3o$4bob3ob3obo12bob3ob3obo$3bo4bob
o4bo10bo4bobo4bo$4bobobobobobo12bobobobobobo$6bobobobo16bobobobo$6bobo
bobo16bobobobo$4bobobobobobo12bobobobobobo$3b2o3bobo3b2o10b2o3bobo3b2o
$3b2obobobobob2o10b2obobobobob2o2$3bobo7bobo10bobo7bobo$5bob2ob2obo14b
ob2ob2obo$4b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o3$6bo5bo16bo5bo$5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o$3b4o5b4o
10b4o5b4o$6bo5bo16bo5bo$3bob3o3b3obo10bob3o3b3obo$4bo2b2ob2o2bo12bo2b
2ob2o2bo$5bobo3bobo14bobo3bobo$3b3obobobob3o10b3obobobob3o$4bo2b2ob2o
2bo12bo2b2ob2o2bo$8bobo20bobo$2bo13bo8bo13bo$2b2o2bo5bo2b2o8b2o2bo5bo
2b2o$7b2ob2o18b2ob2o$4b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o$3b2obo5bob2o10b2obo5bob2o$2bo
13bo8bo13bo$bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bobo3bo2bo$2bobob3ob3obobo8bobob3ob
3obobo2$7bo3bo18bo3bo$5b4ob4o14b4ob4o$4bo3bobo3bo12bo3bobo3bo$3bo11bo
10bo11bo$3bo11bo10bo11bo2$3b2o2bo3bo2b2o10b2o2bo3bo2b2o$2b3o2bo3bo2b3o
8b3o2bo3bo2b3o$b2o4bo3bo4b2o6b2o4bo3bo4b2o$6bo5bo16bo5bo$5b2o5b2o14b2o
5b2o$5bobo3bobo14bobo3bobo$8bobo20bobo$5bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo$5b3o3b
3o14b3o3b3o$4b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o$2b2obo7bob2o8b2obo7bob2o2$bo15bo6bo15bo$
2bobo9bobo8bobo9bobo$4bo9bo12bo9bo$5bo7bo14bo7bo2$4bob3ob3obo12bob3ob
3obo$4bo3bobo3bo12bo3bobo3bo$3bo3bo3bo3bo10bo3bo3bo3bo$5bo7bo14bo7bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » July 26th, 2019, 4:09 am

This block pull is an example of a still life tagalong. Such tagalongs can typically work at multiple speeds. There are four known (1,0)c/p block pulling reactions (taken from here):

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x = 66, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
6bo3b3o5b3o3bo16bo3b3o5b3o3bo$3b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o10b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob
2o$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo6bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bob
o3bo4bo3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o5b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o$bo2bo
b3o13b3obo2bo2b2o2bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo$3bo23bo10bo23bo11$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo
14b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$3b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o9bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$bob2obo
5bobobobo5bob2obo7bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo6bo5b2o2b
3ob3o2b2o5bo$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o3b2ob3o15b3ob2o$bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo2b
2o3bo25bo$3bo23bo10bo3bo15bo3bo$39bo2bo15bo2bo10$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo$3b2ob
5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo8b2o5b2o
5b2o5b2o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o3bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$bo2bob3o13b3obo
2bo2b2o3bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$3bo23bo9bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$37b2ob3o15b
3ob2o$37bo25bo$38bo3bo15bo3bo$39bo2bo15bo2bo10$44b2o5b2o$36b4obobobo5b
obobob4o$35b3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo3bobo13bobo3bo$
3b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o8bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo6b2o
21b2o$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo5b5o15b5o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o5b2o15b2o$bo
2bob3o13b3obo2bo2b2o$3bo23bo!
Each of these works with the c/7 ship:

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x = 107, y = 147, rule = B3/S23
6bo5bo16bo5bo16bo5bo$5bobo3bobo14bobo3bobo14bobo3bobo$5bob2ob2obo14bob
2ob2obo14bobo3bobo$5bo7bo14bo7bo15bo5bo$5bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo16bo3bo
16b3o3b3o$6bo5bo16bo5bo17b2ob2o16b3o3b3o$2b3o2bo3bo2b3o8b3o2bo3bo2b3o
8b3o2b2ob2o2b3o2$2b2o11b2o8b2o11b2o36b2ob2o$49bo11bo9b3o2bo3bo2b3o$4b
4o3b4o12b4o3b4o10b2o3bo3bo3b2o$3b2obobobobob2o10b2obobobobob2o9b2ob2ob
obob2ob2o$4bobobobobobo12bobobobobobo16bobo$4bobobobobobo12bobobobobob
o13b2obobob2o11b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o$5b2obobob2o14b2obobob2o14b2obobob2o11b
2obo2bobo2bob2o$6bobobobo16bobobobo18bobo14b5obobob5o$8bobo20bobo20bob
o15b3o2bobo2b3o$6bobobobo16bobobobo15bo2bobo2bo14bo2bobo2bo$7bo3bo18bo
3bo17b3ob3o16bobobobo$54b3o17b2obobob2o$54b3o18bobobobo$7b2ob2o18b2ob
2o18bo3bo18b2ob2o$4b2o3bo3b2o12b2o3bo3b2o13bo2bobo2bo$5bo7bo14bo7bo12b
4o5b4o$4b2o7b2o12b2o7b2o11bo3bobobo3bo15b3o$5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o15bo2bo2b
o15bob2ob2obo$4bobo5bobo12bobo5bobo11bo2bo2bo2bo2bo11bo9bo$4b2ob2ob2ob
2o12b2ob2ob2ob2o12b2o3bo3b2o12bo2b5o2bo$3bo5bo5bo10bo5bo5bo16bo17b2o7b
2o$b3obo7bob3o6b3obo7bob3o6b2o13b2o10bo3bo3bo$b3ob2o5b2ob3o6b3ob2o5b2o
b3o7b5o5b5o9b2o4bo4b2o$50b3o5b3o17bo$51b2o5b2o11b2o11b2o$51b3o3b3o11b
4o7b4o$4bob2obob2obo12bob2obob2obo12b2obo3bob2o13bo7bo$3bo2bob3obo2bo
10bo2bob3obo2bo10bo3b2ob2o3bo12bo7bo$3b4o5b4o10b4o5b4o11b2o3bo3b2o$3bo
2bo5bo2bo10bo2bo5bo2bo13b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o$4b2o7b2o12b2o7b2o10bob2o3bo3b
2obo9b2ob2o3b2ob2o$3bo11bo10bo11bo8bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo7bo2bo7bo2bo$4b2ob
5ob2o12b2ob5ob2o10b2obobo3bobob2o8bo3b7o3bo$5b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o15bo5bo$
71b4obo3bob4o$6b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o15bo7bo12bob3o3b3obo$5bo7bo14bo7bo15b2o
3b2o$5bo7bo14bo7bo16bo3bo$6b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o38bo7bo$3b2o9b2o10b2o9b2o
12bobo3bobo13bobo5bobo$b2o3bo5bo3b2o6b2o3bo5bo3b2o8bob2o5b2obo12b2o5b
2o$47b2o13b2o11bo5bo$b2o3bo5bo3b2o6b2o3bo5bo3b2o7bobo9bobo$4b3o5b3o12b
3o5b3o12b2o7b2o10bobob2o3b2obobo9bo5bo$5b3o3b3o14b3o3b3o12b2o9b2o9b2o
11b2o8bobo3bobo$6b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o13b2ob2o3b2ob2o10bo11bo9bobo3bobo$2b
2o11b2o8b2o11b2o8b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o32bo5bo$3b2o9b2o10b2o9b2o12b2o5b2o13b
2o7b2o$2b2o11b2o8b2o11b2o10b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o8bo3b2ob2o3bo$b3o11b3o6b3o
11b3o8b3o7b3o10bo2bo5bo2bo7bo3b2ob2o3bo$b2o2bo7bo2b2o6b2o2bo7bo2b2o6b
2ob2o7b2ob2o8bobo7bobo7bo11bo$5bo7bo14bo7bo11bo3bo5bo3bo10b2o7b2o$4bo
9bo12bo9bo10bo2bo7bo2bo8bobo9bobo$o17bo4bo17bo6bo13bo8b3o9b3o5b3ob2o3b
2ob3o$5bo7bo6b2o6bo7bo6b2o3bo2bo7bo2bo3b2o6bo7bo7bo6bobo6bo$2bo13bo3b
2o3bo13bo3b2o3bob2o7b2obo3b2o4b2o9b2o10bobobobo$2bob2o7b2obo8bob2o7b2o
bo7b2o13b2o9bo9bo7bo5bobo5bo$2b3o9b3o8b3o9b3o7bobo11bobo25bo4b2obobob
2o$b3o11b3o6b3o11b3o5b3o3b2o3b2o3b3o7b2o9b2o3bobo4bobobobo$bo15bo6bo
15bo6b2o5bobo5b2o7b4o7b4o8b2obobob2o$3b2o9b2o10b2o9b2o15bobo17b2o5b2o
11b2obobob2o$4bo9bo12bo9bo12bo9bo9b3ob2o5b2ob3o9b2ob2o$3b2o9b2o10b2o9b
2o10b2obo5bob2o8bo4bo5bo4bo$49b3o7b3o13bo5bo16bo$3bo3b2ob2o3bo10bo3b2o
b2o3bo10b2ob2o3b2ob2o10bo2bo5bo2bo11b2ob2o$4b3obobob3o12b3obobob3o12b
5ob5o11bob2o5b2obo11b2ob2o$4b4o3b4o12b4o3b4o35b2o7b2o9b3o5b3o$6bo5bo
16bo5bo37bo3bobo3bo8b2o3b3o3b2o$54bobo17bo2bobo2bo10b3o5b3o$7b2ob2o18b
2ob2o19bobo17bo2bobo2bo9bobo7bobo$54bobo20bobo13bo3b3o3bo$7b2ob2o18b2o
b2o18b2ob2o19bobo11bobo9bobo$6b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o39b2o3b2o9bo13bo$5bo7bo
14bo7bo14bo7bo15b2o3b2o9bo2bo7bo2bo$4bobo5bobo12bobo5bobo13b2o5b2o16bo
3bo11bob2o5b2obo$5b3o3b3o14b3o3b3o14b2o5b2o15b2o3b2o$6b2o3b2o16b2o3b2o
17b2ob2o16b2o5b2o12bo5bo$8bobo20bobo20bobo17b2o5b2o11b3o3b3o$9bo22bo
21b3o35b2o2bo3bo2b2o$76bo3bo10bob2o3bo3b2obo$8b3o20b3o42b2ob2o14b7o$7b
5o18b5o18b5o17b2o3b2o9bob2o3bo3b2obo$6b3ob3o16b3ob3o17b5o18bobobo10b2o
bobo3bobob2o$53bo3bo18b5o10b2obobo3bobob2o$4b3o5b3o12b3o5b3o37b2obob2o
13bo5bo$3b4o5b4o10b4o5b4o36b2o3b2o$2bo4bo3bo4bo8bo4bo3bo4bo8b6o3b6o31b
o7bo$48bobob2o3b2obobo30bobo5bobo$95b2o3b2o$71b2ob2o5b2ob2o8b2o5b2o$
71bo3bo5bo3bo8b3o3b3o$72bo2bo5bo2bo6bo13bo$91bobo9bobo$91b2o11b2o$93bo
9bo$93bobo5bobo$92bo2bo5bo2bo$92bo2bo5bo2bo$92bob2o5b2obo$94bo7bo$91bo
13bo$91bob2o7b2obo$91bo2bo7bo2bo$92b3o7b3o$92b2o9b2o$92b2o9b2o$91bo2bo
7bo2bo$91bo3bo5bo3bo$90bo15bo$90b2obo2bo3bo2bob2o$90bo4b2o3b2o4bo$94b
3o3b3o$93bob2o3b2obo$92bo2bo5bo2bo$92bo2bo5bo2bo$93bo9bo$93b2ob2ob2ob
2o$96b2ob2o$96b2ob2o$97bobo$95bobobobo$97bobo$97bobo$94bobo3bobo2$94b
2o5b2o$95bo5bo$96b2ob2o$97bobo$95bo2bo2bo$98bo2$98bo$95b3ob3o4$91b2ob
2o5b2ob2o$91bobob2o3b2obobo!
I had previously decided not to include them in the jslife-moving collection, because I felt they caused clutter.
A for awesome wrote:an infinite number of distinct c/7 ships can now be constructed
It was noted not long after this ship's discovery that two copies could interact nontrivially. I likewise decided not to include these in the jslife-moving collection.
Moosey wrote:Can faster ships support the block Tagalong? What's the fastest?
I guess c/4
That particular pull (and one of the others) can be supported at c/3:

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x = 113, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
5bo69bo$3b4o66b4o$2b2o3bo20bo43b2o3bo$bo5b3o10b3o4b4o8b3o29bo5b3o$4bob
o4b2o6bo3b2obo3b2o8bob2ob2o27bobo4b2o$bob4o4b2o6bobo2bobobo3bo4b2obo4b
2o24bob4o4b2o$8ob4o5b2o4bobo2bo6bobobo3bo2bo22b8ob4o$2o18b2o2bobob7obo
bobo29b2o$5bo5b2o8bo4bo5bo5bo3bo32bo5b2o$4bobo3bo2bo3b3o2b2o2b2o4bo6b
2o33bobo3bo2bo9bo11bo$7bobo2bo3b4o4b3o7b2o2bo4bo33bobo2bo8b4o9b4o$5b4o
6bo3b3o11b2o3bo3b2o31b4o11b2o3bo7bo3b2o$5b4o11b3o10b3o39b4o8bobo4bo9bo
4bobo$7bo2bo4bobo3b2o10b2o4b3o35bo2bo5b2o3bo7bo7bo3b2o$12b2o68bo4bo3b
2o5b3o5b2o3bo$11bo2bo66bob2o4bob2o4bo3bo4b2obo$87b2o2bo6b3o6bo2b2o$91b
o5b5o5bo$87bo3bob2ob2o3b2ob2obo3bo$89b2o3bo9bo3b2o$93bo2b2o3b2o2bo!
however this might be debatable, since no phase contains a block. All four block pulls can be supported at c/4, although two do not contain a phase with a block:

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x = 99, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
4bo9bo56b3o7b3o$4bo9bo10b3o7b3o10b3o7b3o$3bobo7bobo10bo9bo12bo9bo11bo
2bo5bo2bo$71bo11bo$3bobo7bobo11b2o5b2o14b2o5b2o13b2o7b2o$4b3o5b3o10bob
3o3b3obo10bob3o3b3obo12bob2ob2obo$3bo3b2ob2o3bo9bo3b2ob2o3bo10bo3b2ob
2o3bo9b2ob2obobob2ob2o$b3obo2bobo2bob3o5bobo2bobobobo2bobo6bobo2bobobo
bo2bobo5b2obo2bobobobo2bob2o$bobo2bobobobo2bobo4b2obo2bobobobo2bob2o4b
2obo2bobobobo2bob2o7bo2bobobobo2bo$o2bob2obobob2obo2bo3bo2bob2obobob2o
bo2bo4bo2bob2obobob2obo2bo3bo3bobo2bobo2bobo3bo$2obobo2bobo2bobob2o2bo
3bobo2bobo2bobo3bo2bo3bobo2bobo2bobo3bo3b4obobo3bobob4o$4obob2ob2obob
4o6bobo7bobo10bobo7bobo11b2o2bobo2b2o$b2o2b4ob4o2b2o4bo7bobo7bo4bo7bob
o7bo2bo5bo3bobo3bo5bo7b3o$4b2o7b2o5bo5b2ob5ob2o5b2o5b2ob5ob2o5bobo19bo
bo3bo3bo$9bo9bobo4b2o7b2o5b2o5b2o7b2o5bobo4bo4bo4bo4bobo3b3o$5bo3bo3bo
16b3o20b3o17b2obobob2o9bo2bo$5bo3bo3bo78b2obo$92b3o$94bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Saka » July 31st, 2019, 9:13 am

Probably known, but I accidentally found this LWSS-deleting reaction with the Spaghetti Monster

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x = 35, y = 137, rule = B3/S23
16bo7bo$15b3o5b3o$14bo2b2o3b2o2bo$13b2ob9ob2o$14bob2o5b2obo$13b3ob2o3b
2ob3o$13b3o4bo4b3o$16bo7bo$13bo2bo7bo2bo$12bobo11bobo$13b2obo7bob2o$
15b2o7b2o$16bo7bo$15bobo5bobo$14bo3bo3bo3bo$14bo2bo5bo2bo$14bo2b2o3b2o
2bo$14b2ob2o3b2ob2o$15bo9bo$14bo11bo$12bobo11bobo$11b2obo2bo5bo2bob2o$
10bobo15bobo$9bo6b2o5b2o6bo$10b2obobo2bo3bo2bobob2o$11bobobobo5bobobob
o$13b3o9b3o$12bobo11bobo$11bo3bo9bo3bo$11bo4bo7bo4bo$17bo5bo$11b3o2bo
7bo2b3o$16bo7bo$16bobo3bobo$14bobob2ob2obobo$7b4o3bo4bobo4bo3b4o$6bo2b
2o6b2o3b2o6b2o2bo$13bo4bo3bo4bo$6b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o$8bo23bo$10b4ob
o9bob4o$12bo2bo9bo2bo$14bo11bo$10bobo15bobo$8b2o21b2o2$8bobo19bobo$7bo
2bo19bo2bo$9b2o19b2o$9b2o19b2o$9b2o19b2o$7bob2o4b3o5b3o4b2obo$9b2o3bo
2bo5bo2bo3b2o$9b2o3bo11bo3b2o$8b3o3b2o2bo3bo2b2o3b3o$10bo4bo9bo4bo$10b
o5b2o5b2o5bo$10b2o3bo9bo3b2o$9b2o3b2o9b2o3b2o$11bo2b3o7b3o2bo$9b3o7b3o
7b3o$9b3o7b3o7b3o$8bo10bobo10bo$8bo3b5o7b5o3bo$14b3o3bo3b3o$8bo2bo2bo
3b5o3bo2bo2bo$8bobo6b7o6bobo$19bobo$16bo3bo3bo$16bo3bo3bo$17b2obob2o$
14b2obo5bob2o$14bo2bo5bo2bo$13bo4bo3bo4bo$12bo3b2o5b2o3bo$12bo2bobo5bo
bo2bo$16bobo3bobo$12bo2b2o2bobo2b2o2bo$12bob3obo3bob3obo$13b3o9b3o$14b
3o7b3o$14bo11bo$15b2o7b2o$15b2o7b2o$16bo7bo$15b2o7b2o$14bobo7bobo$15bo
9bo$17b3ob3o$18b2ob2o2$18bobobo$18b5o$19b3o$15b2o7b2o$13b2obo7bob2o$
13b2ob2o5b2ob2o$12b2o13b2o2$14b3o7b3o$13b4o7b4o$12b2o2bo7bo2b2o$12bob
2o9b2obo$12bobob2o5b2obobo$13bo4b2ob2o4bo$14b2o2b2ob2o2b2o2$15b2ob5ob
2o$18bobobo$15b2o7b2o$16bo7bo3$13b3o9b3o$13b3o9b3o$17bo5bo$14b4o5b4o$
14b4o5b4o2$19bobo$13b2o11b2o$12b3o3bo3bo3b3o$13b2o11b2o$13b2o11b2o$11b
obo4b5o4bobo$11b2o15b2o$13bo3b2o3b2o3bo$11b3o13b3o$9b2obob2ob3ob3ob2ob
ob2o$9b2o2b2obo2bobo2bob2o2b2o$10bo2bo4bo3bo4bo2bo$13bo3b2o3b2o3bo$b3o
9b2ob2o5b2ob2o$o2bo11bo9bo$3bo16bo$3bo15b3o$obo16bobo!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 9th, 2019, 11:24 pm

Gustone wrote:NEW C/7

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2 339P7H1V0s pulling a block
I think that qualifies as a pushalong/pullalong/dragalong, and doesn't really constitute a new spaceship. But still, nice find!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by testitemqlstudop » August 14th, 2019, 8:15 am

Peculiar c/3 tagalong.

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x = 57, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
8b3o35b3o$8b3o35b3o$7bo3bo33bo3bo2$7bo3bo33bo3bo$b3o2b2o3b2o2b3o21b3o
2b2o3b2o2b3o$obob3obobob3obobo19bobob3obobob3obobo$bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo
21bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo$4b2o2bobo2b2o27b2o2bobo2b2o$6bobobobo31bobobobo$
4b4o3b4o27b4o3b4o$3b3o7b3o25b3o7b3o$2b2o11b2o23b2o11b2o$3bo5bo5bo25bo
11bo$2b2o4b3o4b2o23b2o11b2o$7bo3bo$2b2o4b3o4b2o$2b2o3b5o3b2o$2bobob2o
3b2obobo$3b2o9b2o$4bob2o3b2obo$4bo9bo$6bo5bo$4bo2bobobo2bo$3b2obobobob
ob2o$2bo3bobobobo3bo$2bo13bo$7b2ob2o$2b6o3b6o$b2o13b2o$7b5o$4bobobobob
obo$3bob2obobob2obo$4bo2bo3bo2bo2$3bob2obobob2obo$2b15o$2b2ob3obob3ob
2o2$7bo3bo$6b2o3b2o$8b3o$5b2obobob2o$8bobo$4bo9bo$3bob2o5b2obo$2b2o11b
2o$6b2obob2o$2b2obo3bo3bob2o$2b2obo3bo3bob2o$bo3b2o5b2o3bo$5bo7bo$4bo
4bo4bo$3b3o2bobo2b3o$5b2obobob2o$6bobobobo$4bo3bobo3bo$3b2o3bobo3b2o$
2bo5bobo5bo$3bob2obobob2obo!
I'm attempting to enumerate all width-10 odd-bilateral c/3 orthogonal spaceships with gfind (without repeating parts, of course.)

EDIT: Halted at length 712 due to duplicates. Can this go into the moving pattern collection?
conwaylife.com wrote:The file is too big, maximum allowed size is 768 KiB.
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Post by testitemqlstudop » August 14th, 2019, 8:27 am

here's the other 500 kb
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » August 15th, 2019, 2:50 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:I'm attempting to enumerate all width-10 odd-bilateral c/3 orthogonal spaceships with gfind (without repeating parts, of course.)
gfind was not designed for this. Instead you would want to use knightt. In this case, however, the search has already been completed.

I generally keep knightt results separate from the moving object collection. They can be found here.

There is also an old collection of gfind results compiled by Jason Summers and available here (mirrored here).
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » August 16th, 2019, 3:49 pm

I REALLY need a narrower spaceship with this back end

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x = 20, y = 95, rule = B3/S23
5b2o6b2o$bob2obo6bob2obo$obobo10bobobo$4obo8bob4o$bo3b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$bo
3b2obo2bob2o3bo$bo4b3o2b3o4bo$3bo3b2o2b2o3bo$b2o3bo6bo3b2o$6bo6bo$6bo
6bo$2bo4b2o2b2o4bo$b3o3b2o2b2o3b3o$b2ob3ob4ob3ob2o$2b3o3bo2bo3b3o$2bo
4bo4bo4bo$2bo14bo$4b2o8b2o$3bo12bo$2bo14bo$2bo14bo$2bob3o6b3obo$4bo10b
o$4bo3b4o3bo$4b2o8b2o$3bobo3b2o3bobo$3bo3b2o2b2o3bo$5b2o6b2o$3b2o10b2o
$2bo14bo$b2o14b2o2$4b3o6b3o$5bo8bo$2b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o$3bobobo4bobobo$b
o3bobo4bobo3bo$5bo3b2o3bo$3bo2b2o4b2o2bo$3bobobo4bobobo2$2bobo10bobo$
4bo10bo$3b2o10b2o$2bo14bo$2b4o8b4o$o4bo8bo4bo$obobo10bobobo$2bob2obo4b
ob2obo$5b2obo2bob2o$8bo2bo$8bo2bo$5bo2bo2bo2bo$5bob2o2b2obo2$4b2o3b2o
3b2o2$2bo2bo8bo2bo$2b2o12b2o$b2o14b2o$obo2b2o6b2o2bobo$2bo2b2o6b2o2bo$
7bo4bo$bob2o10b2obo$6bo6bo$2bo2b2o6b2o2bo$2bo14bo$7bo4bo$7b2o2b2o$4bo
3bo2bo3bo$4bo3bo2bo3bo$5bo2bo2bo2bo$3bo3bo4bo3bo$2b5o6b5o$b3ob2o6b2ob
3o$4b2o8b2o$4b2o8b2o$4b2o3b2o3b2o$8bo2bo$3bo2bo6bo2bo$3bobo3b2o3bobo$
5b2obo2bob2o$6b2o4b2o$3bob2o6b2obo$7b2o2b2o$6bo6bo$7bo4bo$6b2o4b2o$6bo
bo2bobo$9b2o$6b3o2b3o$6b2o4b2o$6b8o$7b6o$8b4o!
beacuse

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x = 40, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
4b3o6b3o8b3o6b3o$b4obo6bob4o2b4obo6bob4o$o18b2o18bo$o2bob2o6b2obo2b2o
2bob2o6b2obo2bo$7bob2obo14bob2obo$3o5bo2bo5b6o5bo2bo5b3o$2bo2bo3b2o3bo
2bo4bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo$bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo$2bo3bo6bo3bo4bo3bo6bo3bo$
5b3o4b3o10b3o4b3o$6bo6bo12bo6bo$b3o2bobo2bobo2b3o2b3o2bobo2bobo2b3o$4b
2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$5b2o6b2o10b2o6b2o$4bobobo2bobobo8bobobo2bobobo$b2o14b2o
2b2o14b2o$3bo12bo6bo12bo$3b2o10b2o6b2o10b2o$3b2o10b2o6b2o10b2o$2b2o12b
2o4b2o12b2o$b2o2bo8bo2b2o2b2o2bo8bo2b2o$4b2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$4bo4b2o4bo8bo
4b2o4bo$3b2o4b2o4b2o6b2o4b2o4b2o$3bobo2bo2bo2bobo6bobo2bo2bo2bobo$3bob
2ob4ob2obo6bob2ob4ob2obo$5bob6obo10bob6obo$3bob3o4b3obo6bob3o4b3obo$3b
3o8b3o6b3o8b3o$b2o14b2o2b2o14b2o$b2o14b2o2b2o14b2o$5bo8bo10bo8bo$4b3o
6b3o8b3o6b3o$3bo12bo6bo12bo$2b2obo8bob2o4b2obo8bob2o$3bobob2o2b2obobo
6bobob2o2b2obobo$5bo2bo2bo2bo10bo2bo2bo2bo$4b2ob2o2b2ob2o8b2ob2o2b2ob
2o$5bob2o2b2obo10bob2o2b2obo$4bo2bo4bo2bo8bo2bo4bo2bo$3b2o10b2o6b2o10b
2o$3bo12bo6bo12bo$4b2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$3b2o10b2o6b2o10b2o$2bo2bo8bo2bo4bo
2bo8bo2bo$b5o8b5o2b5o8b5o$2bo2bo8bo2bo4bo2bo8bo2bo$4bobo6bobo8bobo6bob
o$bo2bo2bo4bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo4bo2bo2bo$4b3obo2bob3o8b3obo2bob3o$8b4o16b
4o$7b6o14b6o$6bob4obo12bob4obo$6b3o2b3o12b3o2b3o$4b3ob4ob3o8b3ob4ob3o
2$4b2o8b2o8b2o8b2o$2b2o12b2o4b2o12b2o$3bo12bo6bo12bo2$2b2ob2o6b2ob2o4b
2ob2o6b2ob2o$bo3bobo4bobo3bo2bo3bobo4bobo3bo$2b5o6b5o4b5o6b5o2$2b3obo
6bob3o4b3obo6bob3o$5b2o6b2o10b2o6b2o$6bo6bo12bo6bo$7b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o$
7b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o$8b4o16b4o$4b2ob6ob2o8b2ob6ob2o$4bo2b2o2b2o2bo8bo2b2o
2b2o2bo$2b2o3bo4bo3b2o4b2o3bo4bo3b2o$bo5bo4bo5bo2bo5bo4bo5bo$bo16bo2bo
16bo$2bo14bo4bo14bo$3bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo6bo2bo$4b2o3b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o3b2o$
4b2o3b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o3b2o$4bo4b2o4bo8bo4b2o4bo$5bobob2obobo10bobob2obob
o$4b2o2b4o2b2o8b2o2b4o2b2o$4bo10bo8bo10bo$5bo2bo2bo2bo10bo2bo2bo2bo$5b
obo4bobo10bobo4bobo$6bobo2bobo12bobo2bobo$7bo4bo14bo4bo$6bobo2bobo12bo
bo2bobo$6bob4obo12bob4obo$6bo2b2o2bo12bo2b2o2bo$6bob4obo12bob4obo$5bo
8bo10bo8bo2$6bo6bo12bo6bo$7bo4bo14bo4bo$9b2o18b2o2$10b3o$10bo$11bo!
(Or a spaceship with two back ends in this position, or a spaceship with this back end on the edge)

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » August 17th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Sokwe wrote: I had previously decided not to include them in the jslife-moving collection, because I felt they caused clutter.
?????? but you included fireships pulling blocks

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » August 17th, 2019, 4:10 pm

Gustone wrote:
Sokwe wrote: I had previously decided not to include them in the jslife-moving collection, because I felt they caused clutter.
?????? but you included fireships pulling blocks
My reasoning at the time was that fireship is the smallest known spaceship capable of pulling those tagalongs.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by EvinZL » October 14th, 2019, 7:58 pm

Anyone into making a (19,4)c/53?

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12bo$9bo2bo$b2o5bo2bo$2o7b2o$b2o$2bo!

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Moosey » October 15th, 2019, 6:48 am

EvinZL wrote:
October 14th, 2019, 7:58 pm
Anyone into making a (19,4)c/53?

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12bo$9bo2bo$b2o5bo2bo$2o7b2o$b2o$2bo!
There are many reasons why that cannot be made into a ship.
1. That leaves behind a lot of debris.
2. The junk cannot get behind it after 53 gens:

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.2A$21.A6$12.D$12.D$6.A2.D2.D$.2A5.D2.D.2A$2A7.CD2.2A$.2A6.A$
2.A4.A.A3$22.A$13.3A5.A.A$11.A.2A.2A3.A.A$11.A2.2A6.A$11.A2.2A$12.A.A
$13.A!
3. That junk reaction probably cannot be made in the 1-glider budget you have
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » October 29th, 2019, 5:38 pm

I posted on the Discord yesterday my find that the existing stabilization of the c/4 diagonal puffer engine could be combined with a known part from jslife in a new way to give a higher-clearance version:

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#C Higher-clearance version of the c/4 diagonal puffer engine
#C Top is old version, bottom is new version based on new connection between known parts:
x = 89, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
13b3o57b3o$13bo59bo$14bo59bo$16b2o58b2o$17bo59bo2$14bo59bo$11b4obo54b
4obo$11bo4bo54bo4bo$12bo4b2o53bo4b2o$14bo2b3o54bo2b3o$18b2o40b2o16b2o$
15b2ob2o40bobo12b2ob2o$15b2ob2o40bo14b2ob2o$13b2o3b2obobo39bo9b2o3b2ob
obo$12b2o4bo3bo40b2o7b2o4bo3bo$13b2ob3o6bo37b2o8b2ob3o6bo$10b5ob2o6bob
o35b2o6b5ob2o6bobo$9b2o3bob2o7bo32b2ob2o6b2o3bob2o7bo$11bob2o43bo4bo7b
ob2o$14bo43bob4o10bo$62b2o$14bo12bo34b2o5b2o3bo12bo$7bo5b3o10bobo33b2o
5bo3b2obo9bobo$6b2o5bo12bobo35bo4bobo3bo10bobo$6bobo7b2o9bo35b2o3b2obo
15bo$11b3o3b2o44bo$4bo4b5o2bo47bo$3b2o3b3o$3bobo3bo2$6b2o$5b3o2$4b2o$
4bo44$7b3o57b3o$7bo59bo$3o6bo50b3o6bo$o6bobo50bo6bobo$bo4b2ob4o48bo4b
2ob4o$3b4ob5ob2o47b4ob5ob2o$4b2o7b2obo47b2o7b2obo4$11bo2bo56bo2bo$10bo
3bo55bo3bo$10bo3bob3o51bo3bob3o$10bobo3bobo51bobo3bobo$16bob2o56bob2o$
18b2o40b2o16b2o$15b2ob2o40bobo12b2ob2o$15b2ob2o40bo14b2ob2o$13b2o3b2ob
obo39bo9b2o3b2obobo$12b2o4bo3bo40b2o7b2o4bo3bo$13b2ob3o6bo37b2o8b2ob3o
6bo$10b5ob2o6bobo35b2o6b5ob2o6bobo$9b2o3bob2o7bo32b2ob2o6b2o3bob2o7bo$
11bob2o43bo4bo7bob2o$14bo43bob4o10bo$62b2o$14bo12bo34b2o5b2o3bo12bo$7b
o5b3o10bobo33b2o5bo3b2obo9bobo$6b2o5bo12bobo35bo4bobo3bo10bobo$6bobo7b
2o9bo35b2o3b2obo15bo$11b3o3b2o44bo$4bo4b5o2bo47bo$3b2o3b3o$3bobo3bo2$
6b2o$5b3o2$4b2o$4bo!
I spent a while trying to combine this with various sparky c/4 diagonal ships to produce different puffer engines, with no luck, despite some heartbreakingly close calls where the sparky ship succeeded in modifying the exhaust but the reaction caught up with the engine from the opposite side and destroyed it. Today, at Kazyan's suggestion, I tried a bit of messing around with JLS to try to find a stabilization with even higher clearance, but after about twenty minutes I discovered that all one of the parts I took from jslife needed was either a domino spark (provided by a B29) or a pair of adjacent dot sparks — which was a connection that could be made from other known parts in jslife:

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#C Version of the c/4 diagonal puffer engine with even higher clearance, based on another new connection of known parts:
x = 35, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
9bob2o$7b3ob2obo$7bo3bo2bo$bo5bo4bob2o$2o6bo4bobo$obo3b2o6bobo$4bo13b
3o5bobo$3bo4bo9bo2bo2b2obobo$3bo2bo11bo3b2obo4bo$15b2o4b2obo$14b2o11bo
bo$16bo$27b4o$26b4o3bo$26bo5b3o$34bo$32bobo$32bobo$32bobo$29b2o2b2o$
29bo4bo$29bo3bo$26b2obo2b2o$26bo3bo$26bob3obo$32bo$30bo$30bobo$29b2o$
22b3o$22bo5bo3b2o$23bo4bo4bo$25bo2bo4bo$19b3o2b3o2bobo$19bo$20bo$22bo
3bo$21b2obo$21bo$20b2o$20bo$21bo!
Adding another ship gave this:

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#C c/4 diagonal puffer, p40, 205 cells minimum
x = 62, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
9bob2o$7b3ob2obo$7bo3bo2bo$bo5bo4bob2o$2o6bo4bobo$obo3b2o6bobo16b2o$4b
o13b3o5bobo4bobo10bo9b3o$3bo4bo9bo2bo2b2obobo3bo11b2o9bo$3bo2bo11bo3b
2obo4bo3b2o9bobo9bo$15b2o4b2obo9bo2bo21b3o$14b2o11bobo4bo13b2obo$16bo
19bobob3o4b3ob3o4b2obo$27b4o13bo2bo2bo3b2ob4o$26b4o3bo4bo12b2o$26bo5b
3o4b4ob2o2b2o6b3o$34bo13bo$32bobo$32bobo2bo$32bobo2bo$29b2o2b2o2bo4b2o
$29bo4bo7b2o$29bo3bo$26b2obo2b2o$26bo3bo$26bob3obo$32bo10b2o$30bo12b2o
$30bobo$29b2o$22b3o20bo$22bo5bo3b2o10bobo$23bo4bo4bo10bobo$25bo2bo4bo
11bo$19b3o2b3o2bobo$19bo$20bo$22bo3bo$21b2obo$21bo$20b2o$20bo$21bo!
I also managed to find this puffer, which simply deletes the tubs from the existing p28 puffer:

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#C c/4 diagonal puffer, p28, 201 cells minimum
x = 51, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
41b3o$41bo2b3o$9bob2o29bobo$7b3ob2obo32bo$7bo3bo2bo30bo$bo5bo4bob2o31b
obo$2o6bo4bobo24b2obo6bo$obo3b2o6bobo22b2o3bo2bo2bo$4bo13b3o5bobo4b3o
4bo2bo2bo3bo$3bo4bo9bo2bo2b2obobo3bo6bo2bo2bo3bo$3bo2bo11bo3b2obo4bo5b
o3bo6bobo$15b2o4b2obo8bo2bo8b2o$14b2o11bobo4bo2bo6b3o$16bo18bo5bo3bo$
27b4o6bobob2obo$26b4o3bo5b2o$26bo5b3o8bo$34bo$32bobo5bo2bo$32bobo2bo$
32bobo2bo$29b2o2b2o2bo$29bo4bo$29bo3bo$26b2obo2b2o$26bo3bo$26bob3obo$
32bo$30bo11bo$30bobo8bobo$29b2o10bobo$22b3o17bo$22bo5bo3b2o$23bo4bo4bo
$25bo2bo4bo$19b3o2b3o2bobo$19bo$20bo$22bo3bo$21b2obo$21bo$20b2o$20bo$
21bo!
Unfortunately, I can't find any way to modify the exhaust of either one further, and a bit of manual soup searching didn't turn up any different orbits, so there still isn't a truly "versatile" puffer engine for c/4 diagonal. Nevertheless, it's certainly progress. Finding one or two more even slightly sparkier c/4 diagonal ships would likely result in, if not an infinite variety of low-period puffers, then certainly a fair number more than are currently known.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » October 30th, 2019, 7:59 pm

A for awesome wrote:
October 29th, 2019, 5:38 pm
Adding another ship gave this: (c/4 diagonal puffer, p40)
Wow! I think this is the first new c/4 diagonal period achieved since the rake constructions 14 years ago!
A for awesome wrote:
October 29th, 2019, 5:38 pm
I posted on the Discord yesterday my find that the existing stabilization of the c/4 diagonal puffer engine could be combined with a known part from jslife in a new way to give a higher-clearance version
This is definitely the sort of thing that should have also been posted here, even if you couldn't find a use for it at the time. The forums are better for archiving this stuff, which could easily get lost and forgotten on the Discord.
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October 29th, 2019, 5:38 pm
some heartbreakingly close calls where the sparky ship succeeded in modifying the exhaust but the reaction caught up with the engine from the opposite side and destroyed it.
These would also be nice to see.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » October 30th, 2019, 8:29 pm

Sokwe wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 7:59 pm
Wow! I think this is the first new c/4 diagonal period achieved since the rake constructions 14 years ago!
How about this
c/4 diagonal
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » October 30th, 2019, 9:20 pm

Sokwe wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 7:59 pm
A for awesome wrote:
October 29th, 2019, 5:38 pm
some heartbreakingly close calls where the sparky ship succeeded in modifying the exhaust but the reaction caught up with the engine from the opposite side and destroyed it.
These would also be nice to see.
This was the essential reaction, I think — there were a number of different ships that could be used:

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x = 50, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
9bob2o$7b3ob2obo$7bo3bo2bo$bo5bo4bob2o23b2o$2o6bo4bobo23bobo$obo3b2o6b
obo22bo$4bo13b3o5bobo13bo$3bo4bo9bo2bo2b2obobo12b2o$3bo2bo11bo3b2obo4b
o3b2o6b2o$15b2o4b2obo9bobo6b3o$14b2o11bobo4bo6b2o3bo$16bo20bo3b2o3bo$
27b4o6b2o7bo$26b4o3bo7bob4o$26bo5b3o5b2ob4o2bo$34bo5bo3bo4bo$32bobo13b
o$32bobo6bo2b2o$32bobo8bobo$29b2o2b2o$29bo4bo$29bo3bo$26b2obo2b2o$26bo
3bo$26bob3obo$32bo$30bo$30bobo$29b2o$22b3o$22bo5bo3b2o$23bo4bo4bo$25bo
2bo4bo$19b3o2b3o2bobo$19bo$20bo$22bo3bo$21b2obo$21bo$20b2o$20bo$21bo!
EDIT: A p12 ship not in jslife, formed by using a front spark of a known ship to delete a forming blinker in the original puffer:

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x = 35, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
26b3o$11bo14bo$10b2o15bo$10bobo16b2o$30bo$13b2o10bo$13b2o9b4o$24bo2b2o
$9bob2o13bo$8b4o13bo2bo$8bo3b2o8bob6o$13bo2bo4b6ob2o$21bo2bo$12b2o3bo
5b2o$12b2o3bo6bo2b2o$13bo3bo3bo4b2o$9b4o9bobob2o$9bo2bo11b2obo2bo$13bo
bo9bo4bo$6b4o20bo$6bo6b2o10bobo4b3o$7bo2b2o15b2obo$10b2o18bo2$10b3o$3b
2o5bobo$3bobo4bob2o$3bo6bo2b3o$6bo3bo4bo$2o3bo4bo3bo$obo2bo3bo$o4b3o$
3bo$2bobo$2bobo$bo$b2o$b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » October 30th, 2019, 9:30 pm

I want the entire collection of all 2c/5 ships just to see if this is included:

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x = 15, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4bobobobo$b3o7b3o$2o11b2o$3bo7bo$2b2o7b2o$b2o9b2o$2ob2o5b2ob2o$
2bo2bo3bo2bo$2b2ob2ob2ob2o$3bobo3bobo$4bo5bo!
I also want the entire collection of all c/3 ships and c/4 just to see this two as well:

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2o6b2o$b8o2$bo6bo$bo6bo$3bo2bo$b2ob2ob2o$2b2o2b2o$obo4bobo$2o6b
2o$2obo2bob2o$4b2o!

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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3b2o3b2o$3bo5bo2$4b2ob2o$4b2ob2o$3b3ob3o$2bo7bo$2b2obobob2o$2bo
bobobobo$2o2b2ob2o2b2o$2b2ob3ob2o$3b7o$2bo7bo$2b2o5b2o$3b2o3b2o$
4bo3bo$3bobobobo$3bobobobo2$3b3ob3o!
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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » October 30th, 2019, 9:46 pm

JP21 wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 9:30 pm
I want the entire collection of all 2c/5 ships
There is no "entire collection", because there are too many 2c/5 ships to keep track of (likewise with c/3 and c/4). Most known elementary and elementary-based moving objects are contained in the following collections: jslife-moving, knightt results, lots of spaceships, Paul Tooke's puffers, and c/5 rakes. This covers just about all of the elementary spaceship technology deemed by myself to be "interesting". The ships you listed are all contained in each of the first three linked collections.

These ships are also contained in the spaceship collections that come with Golly.
JP21 wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 8:29 pm
Sokwe wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 7:59 pm
Wow! I think this is the first new c/4 diagonal period achieved since the rake constructions 14 years ago!
How about this
c/4 diagonal
Hmm, I'm not seeing it. All of the technology of periods greater than 4 seems to be from Oct. 2005 or earlier.
A for awesome wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 9:20 pm
This was the essential reaction, I think — there were a number of different ships
Thanks. Unfortunately, it looks unlikely to be fixable for the reason you already mentioned.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by praosylen » October 30th, 2019, 10:22 pm

A for awesome wrote:
October 30th, 2019, 9:20 pm
EDIT: A p12 ship not in jslife, formed by using a front spark of a known ship to delete a forming blinker in the original puffer:

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x = 35, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
26b3o$11bo14bo$10b2o15bo$10bobo16b2o$30bo$13b2o10bo$13b2o9b4o$24bo2b2o
$9bob2o13bo$8b4o13bo2bo$8bo3b2o8bob6o$13bo2bo4b6ob2o$21bo2bo$12b2o3bo
5b2o$12b2o3bo6bo2b2o$13bo3bo3bo4b2o$9b4o9bobob2o$9bo2bo11b2obo2bo$13bo
bo9bo4bo$6b4o20bo$6bo6b2o10bobo4b3o$7bo2b2o15b2obo$10b2o18bo2$10b3o$3b
2o5bobo$3bobo4bob2o$3bo6bo2b3o$6bo3bo4bo$2o3bo4bo3bo$obo2bo3bo$o4b3o$
3bo$2bobo$2bobo$bo$b2o$b2o!
Close call on a backrake (see gen 10) using a version of the other p12 ship (from jslife) modified to use the new higher-clearance frontend:

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x = 56, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
44b2o$43b2o$45bo$47b2o$12bo33bo5bo$8b3ob3o35b2obo$7b2o4bo37bo3bo$7bo4b
o34b2o2b3o$3o6bo2bob3o30b2obo$o6bo10bo16bo13bo3bo$bo4b2obo5bo3bo7bo6b
2o11b2o5b2o$3b4obo10b2o3b2obobo4bobo10b3o$4b2o10bo2b3o2b2ob2obo7bo7bob
2o$15bo2bob2obo3b3o7bo3b2ob2obo2bo$15bo11b2o8bo3b2ob3o$15bobo25bob2o$
39bo2bo4bo$26b6o2bo4b3o$26bo3b4o4bo2bo$27bo6bo4bobobo$32b2o10bo$32b2o
6bo3bo$34bob3o$30bo2bo$29b5o$29bo2b2o2$24b3ob2o2bo$23bo7b5o$22bo6b4obo
$18b3ob2o4bobo$18bo2bo2b2o$19bo5b3o$24bo$23b3obo2$16bo7bobobo$15b2o7bo
$15bobo6bo2bo2$18b2ob3o2bo$18b2o2bo$8b3o9bobo$8bo6b2obo4b2o$9bo2b3o$
11bo$12b2ob2o$15b3o$15bo$14b2o$5b2o6b2o$5bobo3b2o2bo$5bo5b3o$8bo$8b2o!
And yet another p12 ship using a spark placement I overlooked:

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x = 55, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
43b3o$43bo$44bo$46b2o$9bob2o34bo3b2o$7b3ob2obo35b2o$7bo3bo2bo38b2o$bo
5bo4bob2o31b6o$2o6bo4bobo31bo2b2obo$obo3b2o6bobo17b2o13bo4bo$4bo13b3o
5bobo5bobo10bo6bo$3bo4bo9bo2bo2b2obobo4bo11bo$3bo2bo11bo3b2obo4bo6bo7b
2o3bo$15b2o4b2obo12b2o2b2obo2b3o$14b2o11bobo11bo5bo$16bo24bobo3bo$27b
4o8bob2o3bo$26b4o3bo4b2ob2o$26bo5b3o3bo2bo$34bo5bobo$32bobo5bo2b2o$32b
obo$32bobo$29b2o2b2o$29bo4bo2b2o$29bo3bo$26b2obo2b2o$26bo3bo$26bob3obo
$32bo$30bo$30bobo$29b2o$22b3o$22bo5bo3b2o$23bo4bo4bo$25bo2bo4bo$19b3o
2b3o2bobo$19bo$20bo$22bo3bo$21b2obo$21bo$20b2o$20bo$21bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by HartmutHolzwart » October 31st, 2019, 3:14 am

Congratulations!

Great to finally see progress in diagonal c/4 puffers after so many years!

By now it should be relatively easy to create a script that simulates an incomplete puffer engine to get useful candidates. I remember that finding the first completion of the engine was quite tedious, so you‘d only start when you see that the engine actually produces something new.

Also, there could be low hanging fruits as the field was never explored systematically (as it has been done for low period puffer engines running horizontally).

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 6th, 2019, 5:54 am

Gustone wrote:
July 23rd, 2019, 4:06 am
Trivial one cell reduction to barge (on the right)

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x = 61, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
55bo$7bo45b3ob3o$5b4o5b3o27b3o5b2o6bo$b2ob2o3bo3bo33bo3bo2bo3b2o$b2o2b
o5b3o4bo3bo15bo3bo4b3o$o2bo7bobob5ob4o11b4ob5obobo$9bo6bo2bobo3bob2o3b
2obo3bobo2bo6bo$10bo16b2o3b2o16bo$22bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$22bobo11bobo$23bo
13bo$22b2o3bo5bo3b2o$21b2o2b4o3b4o2b2o$25bo3bobo3bo$21b2o6bobo6b2o$22b
o4bobobobo4bo$21bo4b2obobob2o4bo$22b2obo3bobo3bob2o$22b4o2b2ob2o2b4o$
21b2o3bo2bobo2bo3b2o$28bo3bo!
167-cell reduction:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$bobo$2bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by PHPBB12345 » November 6th, 2019, 6:06 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 6th, 2019, 5:54 am
Gustone wrote:
July 23rd, 2019, 4:06 am
Trivial one cell reduction to barge (on the right)

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x = 61, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
55bo$7bo45b3ob3o$5b4o5b3o27b3o5b2o6bo$b2ob2o3bo3bo33bo3bo2bo3b2o$b2o2b
o5b3o4bo3bo15bo3bo4b3o$o2bo7bobob5ob4o11b4ob5obobo$9bo6bo2bobo3bob2o3b
2obo3bobo2bo6bo$10bo16b2o3b2o16bo$22bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$22bobo11bobo$23bo
13bo$22b2o3bo5bo3b2o$21b2o2b4o3b4o2b2o$25bo3bobo3bo$21b2o6bobo6b2o$22b
o4bobobobo4bo$21bo4b2obobob2o4bo$22b2obo3bobo3bob2o$22b4o2b2ob2o2b4o$
21b2o3bo2bobo2bo3b2o$28bo3bo!
167-cell reduction:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$bobo$2bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 6th, 2019, 4:19 pm

PHPBB12345 wrote:
November 6th, 2019, 6:06 am
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 6th, 2019, 5:54 am
Gustone wrote:
July 23rd, 2019, 4:06 am
Trivial one cell reduction to barge (on the right)

Code: Select all

x = 61, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
55bo$7bo45b3ob3o$5b4o5b3o27b3o5b2o6bo$b2ob2o3bo3bo33bo3bo2bo3b2o$b2o2b
o5b3o4bo3bo15bo3bo4b3o$o2bo7bobob5ob4o11b4ob5obobo$9bo6bo2bobo3bob2o3b
2obo3bobo2bo6bo$10bo16b2o3b2o16bo$22bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$22bobo11bobo$23bo
13bo$22b2o3bo5bo3b2o$21b2o2b4o3b4o2b2o$25bo3bobo3bo$21b2o6bobo6b2o$22b
o4bobobobo4bo$21bo4b2obobob2o4bo$22b2obo3bobo3bob2o$22b4o2b2ob2o2b4o$
21b2o3bo2bobo2bo3b2o$28bo3bo!
167-cell reduction:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$bobo$2bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 15th, 2019, 12:56 am

Some new (possibly?) P20, P40 and P60 spaceships, as well as a P20 double glider rake:

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x = 406, y = 141, rule = B3/S23
69bobobo3bobobo49bobobo3bobobo49bobobo3bobobo49bo3bo3bobobo49bo3bo3bob
obo49bobobo3bobobo2$73bo3bo3bo53bo3bo3bo53bo3bo3bo49bo3bo3bo3bo49bo3bo
3bo3bo49bo7bo3bo2$69bobobo3bo3bo49bobobo3bo3bo49bobobo3bo3bo49bobobo3b
o3bo49bobobo3bo3bo49bobobo3bo3bo2$69bo7bo3bo49bo7bo3bo49bo7bo3bo53bo3b
o3bo53bo3bo3bo49bo3bo3bo3bo2$69bobobo3bobobo49bobobo3bobobo49bobobo3bo
bobo53bo3bobobo53bo3bobobo49bobobo3bobobo2$3bo19bo41bo19bo41bo19bo41bo
19bo41bo19bo41bo19bo41bo19bo$2b3o17b3o39b3o17b3o39b3o17b3o39b3o17b3o
39b3o17b3o39b3o17b3o39b3o17b3o$2bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo
39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo
4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo$3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o41b3o3b3o3b3o
3b3o$3b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b
2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b2o3b2obo3bob2o3b2o41b2o3b2ob
o3bob2o3b2o5$11b2ob2o57b2ob2o57b2ob2o57b2ob2o57b2ob2o57b2ob2o57b2ob2o$
3bo6bobobobo6bo41bo6bobobobo6bo48bobobobo55bobobobo55bobobobo55bobobob
o55bobobobo$2b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o39b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o47b2o3b2o55b2o3b2o55b2o3b
2o55b2o3b2o55b2o3b2o$2bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo39bob2o4bo5bo4b2obo47bo5bo55bo
5bo55bo5bo55bo5bo55bo5bo$3b3o15b3o41b3o15b3o$3b3o15b3o41b3o15b3o$3b3o
15b3o41b3o15b3o$3b2o17b2o41b2o17b2o$122bo29bo$121b3o27b3o$121bob2o4b3o
3b2ob2o3b3o4b2obo37b3o3b2ob2o3b3o45b3o3b2ob2o3b3o45b3o3b2ob2o3b3o45b3o
3b2ob2o3b3o$2b3o3b2o7b2o3b3o45b2o7b2o41b3o4bo15bo4b3o38bo15bo45bo15bo
45bo15bo45bo15bo$bo2bo3b2o7b2o3bo2bo38b3o3b2o7b2o3b3o35b3o4b2obo9bob2o
4b3o38b2obo9bob2o45b2obo9bob2o45b2obo9bob2o33b3o9b2obo9bob2o9b3o$4bo
17bo41bo2bo15bo2bo35b3o5bo2bo7bo2bo5b3o39bo2bo7bo2bo47bo2bo7bo2bo47bo
2bo7bo2bo34bo2bo9bo2bo7bo2bo9bo2bo$o3bo17bo3bo37bo21bo35b2o7bobo7bobo
7b2o40bobo7bobo49bobo7bobo49bobo7bobo35bo13bobo7bobo13bo$o3bo4bo7bo4bo
3bo37bo3bo2bo7bo2bo3bo278bo3bo31bo3bo$4bo3bo9bo3bo41bo3bobo9bobo3bo90b
3o9bo19bo9b3o29bo19bo28bo12bo19bo12bo18bo3bo31bo3bo$bobo4b3o5b3o4bobo
38bo5b3o5b3o5bo34bo31bo23bo2bo8b2o17b2o8bo2bo29b2o17b2o27b3o11b2o17b2o
11b3o17bo9bo19bo9bo$65bobo15bobo34b3o29b3o22bo10bob2o2bo9bo2b2obo10bo
16b3o9bob2o2bo9bo2b2obo9b3o14bob2o9bob2o2bo9bo2b2obo9b2obo18bobo6bobo
2bo9bo2bobo6bobo$120bob2o27b2obo22bo3bo2bo7b2ob2o5b2ob2o7bo2bo3bo15bo
2bo5bo7b2ob2o5b2ob2o7bo5bo2bo14b3o5bo7b2ob2o5b2ob2o7bo5b3o27b2o2b2ob2o
5b2ob2o2b2o$121b3o2bo21bo2b3o23bo6bobobo5bo9bo5bobobo6bo18bo3b3obobo5b
o9bo5bobob3o3bo17b3o3b3obobo5bo9bo5bobob3o3b3o25b4o4bo9bo4b4o$121b3o3b
o19bo3b3o23bo3b4o29b4o3bo14bo3bo41bo3bo13b3o2b2o33b2o2b3o25bo3bo17bo3b
o$121b3o3bo19bo3b3o24bobob3o2bo2bo17bo2bo2b3obobo15bo3bo2b3o3bo2bo17bo
2bo3b3o2bo3bo13b2o4b2o3bo2bo17bo2bo3b2o4b2o25bobob2o15b2obobo$121b2o
29b2o29b2o3bobo17bobo3b2o24bo3b2o4bobo17bobo4b2o3bo24bo4bobo17bobo4bo
33b2obo17bob2o$183b2o3b3o17b3o3b2o21bobo10b3o17b3o10bobo26b3o17b3o38b
3o6bo5bo6b3o$381bobo3bobo$257b3o3b3o53b3o3b3o52bo3bobo3bo$381bobo3bobo
$257bo7bo52b2o7b2o53bo5bo$256b2o7b2o46b3o3bo7bo3b3o$312bo7bo5bo7bo$
319bo7bo$256bo9bo42b2o25b2o$256bo2bo3bo2bo35bo5bo4bobo4bo5bo4bobo4bo5b
o$255b2o2bo3bo2b2o33b3o3bo5bo5b2o5b2o5bo5bo3b3o$255b2o9b2o32b2obo39bob
2o35b2o3b2o$255b2obo5bob2o32b3o5bobo25bobo5b3o35b2o3b2o$256b3o5b3o33b
3o41b3o26bo8b2o3b2o8bo$250b3o4bobo3bobo4b3o27b3o16b2o5b2o16b3o25b3o21b
3o$249bo2bo4bo2bobo2bo4bo2bo27b2o16b2o5b2o16b2o25b2obo7b2o3b2o7bob2o$
252bo5b2o3b2o5bo47bo2bo3bo2bo42b3o5bob3o3b3obo5b3o$248bo3bo17bo3bo43b
2obo3bob2o42b3o5bo4bobo4bo5b3o$248bo3bo17bo3bo43bo3bobo3bo42b3o10bobo
10b3o$252bo17bo48b2obobob2o44b2o6bo3bobo3bo6b2o$249bobo19bobo45b2obobo
b2o$311bobo7bo3bo7bobo45b3o3b3o$254bo13bo38b3obobo19bobob3o$253b3o11b
3o42bo21bo$252b2obo11bob2o$252b3o3b3ob3o3b3o$252b3o4b2ob2o4b3o$252b3o
3bo5bo3b3o$253b2o13b2o38b2o27b2o$308b2o9b2o5b2o9b2o$319b2o5b2o45b3o$
373bo2bo18b3o$373bo20bo2bo$373bo3bo19bo$318bo9bo44bo3bo15bo3bo$316bo2b
o7bo2bo42bo19bo3bo$315b2o2bo7bo2b2o42bobo5bo5bo8bo$314bo17bo49bo5bo5bo
bo$314bo3b2o7b2o3bo49bo5bo$315bo4bo5bo4bo$316bo3bo5bo3bo$309b2o6b3o7b
3o6b2o$308bo2bo23bo2bo$308bobo6bo11bo6bobo$309bo7bo11bo7bo$317bo11bo2$
319b2o5b2o$301b3o4b2o27b2o4b3o33bo$300bo2bo4b2o8bobo5bobo8b2o4bo2bo30b
2o$303bo13bo11bo13bo$299bo3bo13bobob2ob2obobo13bo3bo$299bo3bo13bobob2o
b2obobo13bo3bo$303bo13bo3b2ob2o3bo13bo$300bobo15bob2o3b2obo15bobo$317b
2o9b2o62b2o$318bo2bo3bo2bo62bo$319b2o5b2o$320bo5bo$376bo17bo$307b3o27b
3o35b3o15b3o$306bo2b2o25b2o2bo34bob2o13b2obo$294bo9b2o5bo23bo5b2o9bo
23b3o13b3o$293b3o8bo4b2o25b2o4bo8b3o22b3o13b3o$293bob2o7bo3b2o27b2o3bo
7b2obo22b3o13b3o$294b3o8b2o33b2o8b3o23b2o15b2o$294b3o18b2o13b2o18b3o$
294b3o17bo17bo17b3o$294b2o12b2o5b2o13b2o5b2o12b2o$308b2o5bobo11bobo5b
2o$316b2o11b2o$318bo9bo$316b2o11b2o$294bo57bo$293b3o55b3o$293bob2o53b
2obo$294b3o53b3o$294b3o53b3o$294b3o53b3o$294b2o55b2o11$321bo3bo$314b3o
2bobo3bobo2b3o$314bo2bo2b2o3b2o2bo2bo$314bo17bo$314bo3bo9bo3bo$314bo3b
o9bo3bo$314bo17bo$315bobo11bobo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » November 15th, 2019, 1:24 pm

New c/10

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x = 28, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$4b2o16b2o$4b2o15bo2bo$3bo2bo14b4o$3b4o13bob2obo$2bob2obo13bo2bo$
3bo2bo$20b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o11bo6bo$bo6bo$20bo4bo$2bo4bo13bo2bo$3bo2bo15b
2o$4b2o$19b2o4b2o$b2o4b2o9bo2bo2bo2bo$o2bo2bo2bo3b2o4b2o4b2o$b2o4b2o6b
o4bo4bo$2bo4bo4bo$13b2o!

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