cellular automata according to Max Planck

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by KennyFromSouthPark » January 25th, 2020, 2:18 pm

pcallahan wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 12:31 pm
otismo wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 9:43 am
not cryptic

THEY "catagolue"/observe the ash when the fire is more important.
I sort of agree with this. You study the ash because it stands still for you, but I have also wondered what you can find in the active parts of soups. See viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3883&p=73552#p72830 I never made any real progress, but I bet there is more order to that seeming chaos than meets the eye.
And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places.
Kate Bush has nothing to do with CGOL as far as I know, but I'm an occasional fan.
I do not study the ashes, the soups and the stills, at alI, but I imagine myself riding along with the moving patterns of CGol like e.g. the glider, the Corderships and the *WSS, so that my relative velocity equals zero and the whole grid starts moving while I'm surfing.

And I am simply overwhelmed and overcharged by what you Conway fans and addicts found out about CGoL during the past 5 decades.

About the Kate Bush quote, that very song "Running Up That Hill" urged me to buy her album "Hounds Of Love" and I was angry and disappointed that I wasted my money after I listened to it once. I do not know why I put it on the record player a few weeks later but then I listened to it each and every day several times for a few months.

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by KennyFromSouthPark » January 25th, 2020, 2:43 pm

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 9:38 am
Because of this untold piece of german Schlagermusik from 1962 when I was hardly 6 years old and went to the
katholische Grundschule in Düsseldorf-Unterrath
I was hardly 5 years old by the time and went to no school, at all, not even to the kindergarten.

BTW: Hubi1857 resolves to "Hubi, born 1st of August in 1957". Got me?

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by pcallahan » January 25th, 2020, 2:52 pm

KennyFromSouthPark wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 2:18 pm
KT helped me to remain a composer and to survive the madhouse we're all living in since music is my life and the only reason of my existence.
The only famous musician I can think of on record discussing CGOL is Brian Eno, who apparently spent months playing with the Life display at the Exploratorium museum in San Francisco several decades ago. I am not sure how much he really knows or how much it influenced his music (there's an old interview I don't feel like searching up at the moment).

Do you do any generative music?

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by otismo » January 26th, 2020, 3:19 am

one of the three pulsar phases is four ships bound by fire

rule 30 meditation :

https://youtu.be/IK7nBOLYzdE

Creator Elliot Waite GitHub zipfile
rule-30-and-game-of-life-master.zip
two python scripts for above video
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now if we could have them working in golly...
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 26th, 2020, 12:38 pm

otismo wrote:
January 26th, 2020, 3:19 am
rule 30 meditation :

https://youtu.be/IK7nBOLYzdE
You don't even need a 2-dimensional grid of cells to produce such patterns. A simple 1-dimensional straight line of intervals is enough. Instead of cellular automata you get linear automata.

These were my field of mathematical research as an undergraduate student of physics. Using a second hand ZX81 equipped with a small thermoprinter.

See -> https://wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX81

BTW: Pleased to see that youtube-links are not a crime on this forum.
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by pcallahan » January 26th, 2020, 12:55 pm

otismo wrote:
January 26th, 2020, 3:19 am
one of the three pulsar phases is four ships bound by fire

rule 30 meditation :

https://youtu.be/IK7nBOLYzdE
Is there a way to set that up in Golly for a longer run? What I wonder is how far the CGOL border area continues to expand upward, ignoring free gliders and spaceships. It seems like once it's established, it should creep up very slowly, because there is so much stable ash in the way. On the other hand, there is no reason for it to stop or go periodic (since the input is aperiodic). What does the far future look like? Billions of steps ahead?

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by pcallahan » January 26th, 2020, 1:01 pm

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 26th, 2020, 12:38 pm
otismo wrote:
January 26th, 2020, 3:19 am
rule 30 meditation :

https://youtu.be/IK7nBOLYzdE
You don't even need a 2-dimensional grid of cells to produce such patterns. A simple 1-dimensional straight line of intervals is enough. Instead of cellular automata you get linear automata.
The rule 30 part, yes. The application of CGOL rules does require a grid and a lot more compute power than you will get from a ZX81.

The linear CA rules can be carried out with a stencil as I wrote about here https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4232 and perhaps turned into an exercise for children by overzealous (and some would say sadistic) kindergarten teachers.

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by otismo » January 26th, 2020, 4:21 pm

Einstein was right in suggesting that the "Universe of Accepted Ideas" would first need to expand sufficiently enough to enable the average person

to understand even more complex scientific ideas - this has led to public interest in cosmology and the "We live in a Simulation" theory.

Even more than setting fellow academics straight, I feel the responsible learned citizen has a duty to the public if only to keep it

from being infected with all the wacky hoo-ha. Make the current sim safer for sane ideas. To that end I am become

a promoter mainly of CGOL and Golly. I am also vetting Visions of Chaos https://www.softology.com.au/voc.htm

and whatever else I feel may work to build interest among the general public. I need to do my homework on Max Planck etc.

but if you think we can wow them and woo them with it then it looks like I am in on the ground floor ! Let's hear more !

Thank You !

Respectfully

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 26th, 2020, 6:05 pm

WOW!
"Your program is like a Pandora box of all interesting things to try!"
Indeed!

Yours truly,
Hubi :)

PS: https://www.softology.com.au/voc.htm is an austrian url, isn't it?

Before I forget to ask, do you know Laurie Andersons quasi-musical instrument VOCoder?

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 26th, 2020, 7:06 pm

 
pcallahan wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 2:52 pm

The only famous musician I can think of on record discussing CGOL is Brian Eno, who apparently spent months playing with the Life display at the Exploratorium museum in San Francisco several decades ago. I am not sure how much he really knows or how much it influenced his music (there's an old interview I don't feel like searching up at the moment).

Do you do any generative music?

I was completely unaware of Brian Eno until I began my civil service in the Lukas Krankenhaus in Neuss by the river Rhein some 40 years ago. His "Here Come The Warm Jets" is one the best non-classical albums of all times, IMHO.

People come and go and forget to close the door
And leave their stains and cigarette buds trampled on the floor
And when they do
Remember me
Remember me.
The old vinyl record ends at the point where "Baby's on Fire" repeats on youtube.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=U-7iZZqy8rA&t=2460s

Enjoy!

And now for something completely different:

Do you know the the Yamaha Tenori-On?
The Yamaha Tenori-on is an electronic musical instrument designed and created by the Japanese artist Toshio Iwai and Yu Nishibori of the Music and Human Interface Group at the Yamaha Center for Advanced Sound Technology.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Tenori-on

I met Toshio Iwai here in Berlin in 2oo8 when they presented it to the world just a few months after I managed to fill the pregnant oyster of Berlin with my deterministically chaotic music as a participant of Shu Lea Changs "Moving Forest aka The Castle".

His business card is one of my best souveniers in regards of music.
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by KennyFromSouthPark » January 27th, 2020, 5:41 am

pcallahan wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 12:31 pm
otismo wrote:
January 25th, 2020, 9:43 am

And if I only could,
I'd make a deal with God,
And I'd get him to swap our places.
Kate Bush has nothing to do with CGOL as far as I know, but I'm an occasional fan.
https://soundcloud.com/hubi/laughter

And all of a sudden she has, as it seems!

If interested in my deterministically chaotic music for the pregnant oyster check https://soundcloud.com/hubi/logimus.
The background image is the output of the aforementioned thermoprinter that came with the ZX81.

Yours truly,
https://soundcloud.com/hubi

PS: Those were the times before soundcloud became rich and fat and famous. If you use the app you'd better search for artist Michael Hubertz instead of plain hubi.
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by otismo » January 27th, 2020, 9:00 am

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 26th, 2020, 6:05 pm
WOW!
"Your program is like a Pandora box of all interesting things to try!"
Indeed!

Yours truly,
Hubi :)

PS: https://www.softology.com.au/voc.htm is an austrian url, isn't it?

Before I forget to ask, do you know Laurie Andersons quasi-musical instrument VOCoder?

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocoder
MY BAD. APOLOGIES. IDK people/person who are behind Visions of Chaos ( voc ). I did not mean to imply that I was anything more than user.

But yes, "Pandora's Box" indeed !

I just recently discovered Visions of Chaos. So very much to explore. Maybe too much (overkill ). I was considering doing promotion with them.

To-day's average citizen can only handle so much ( short attention span - too much "going on" ).

However, no doubt, voc definitely has many WoW ! elements that will attract and build people's interest !

I believe cellular automata according to Max Planck may also have this potential.

There is so much useful stuff in this forum and it ought to be collected and assembled in one place to save time searching it all out.

This first example is a catagolue soup, found thru automated search, by computer, with no attached accreditation;

so I am going to credit Awesome Intelligence; GOD wanted us to have CGOL; GOD wanted us to have this soup.

example

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#CXRLE Pos=0,0
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2b3o3bo3bobo$obob5o2bo$3o3bo3b4o$ob2o2b3obo2b2o$o2b3obo2bob2obo$4ob2ob
2o3b2o$b2obob2o2bo4bo$2obob4o3bobo$b6ob2ob3o$8b8o$bob8o4bo$3o2b2o3b2o
2b2o$bob6o2b3obo$9obob2o$o2b2obo3b2obo$o2bo3b3o2b2o!
example

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# Golly Python script. Written by PM 2Ring, March 2009. Updated August 2009.
# Modified for Golly 2.0+ by Andrew Trevorrow.

''' Create a 'bitmap printer'.

    Print a bitmap in LWSSs, using the current selection as the bitmap source.
'''

import golly
from glife import *

def get_bitmap():
    ''' Get current selection & turn it into a bitmap. '''
    selrect = golly.getselrect()
    if len(selrect) == 0: golly.exit("There is no selection, aborting.")

    #Get bitmap size
    w, h = selrect[2:]
    #Adjust width, so it's in the form of 4m, m>1
    w = (w + 3) // 4 * 4
    w = max(8, w)

    #Initialize empty bitmap
    row = w * [0]
    bm = [row[:] for i in xrange(h)]

    #Populate bitmap with cell data
    u, v = selrect[:2]
    cells = golly.getcells(selrect)
    cellsxy = [(cells[i] - u, cells[i+1] - v) for i in xrange(0, len(cells), 2)]
    for x, y in cellsxy:
        bm[y][x] = 1
    return bm

def linemaker(loopm):
    ''' Create an empty LineMaker '''
    LM = pattern('''
34b2o$34bo$25b2o5bobo$24b3o5b2o$12bo8bob2o$12bobo6bo2bo$2o11bobo5bob2o
$2o11bo2bo7b3o21b2o$13bobo9b2o21b2o$12bobo$12bo9bo$23b2o$22b2o6$47b3o$
24b2o20bo3bo$24b2o19bo5bo$46bo3bo$47b3o$47b3o5$49b3o$44bo3b2ob2o$42b2o
4b2ob2o$35b2o6b2o3b5o$35b2o10b2o3b2o7$45b2o5b2o$45bo6bo$46b3o4b3o$48bo
6bo!''')
    LMTop = LM + pattern('2b2o$2bo$obo$2o!', 32, 7)
    LMBase = pattern('''
11bo$10bo$10b3o12$23b2o$23bobo$10bobo13bo$9bo2bo2b2o6bo2bo12b2o$8b2o5b
obo8bo11b3o$2o4b2o3bo3bo3bo3bobo9bob2o15bo$2o6b2o5b3ob2o2b2o10bo2bo8b
3o4bobo$9bo2bo3b2o17bob2o16bobo$10bobo25b3o2b2o2bo7bo2bo3b2o$39b2o2bo
3bo7bobo4b2o$44bo2bo6bobo$26bo17b2o8bo$24bobo$25b2o2$36bo$36bobo$36b2o
7$33bo7bo$32b4o5bobo$27b2o2bo2b2o8b2o4b2o$27b2o2b2o11b2o4b2o$16b2o6b2o
10bo7b2o$16b2o5b3o10bo4bobo$24b2o10bo4bo$27b2o$27b2o!''', 14, 29)
    LMBase += LM(55, 42, flip)
    return LMTop(8 + loopm, -21 - loopm) + LMBase

def dmprinter(pdy, copies=1):
    ''' Generate & display a dot matrix printer for named bitmap pattern '''
    #Horizontal pixel separation between LineMakers. minimum = 5
    LMsx = 5

    #Horizontal distance between bitmap pixels. Constant, due to LineMaker period
    pdx = 15

    #Distance between LineMakers
    LMdx, LMdy = -LMsx * pdx, pdy

    #Get bitmap pattern from current selection.
    bm = get_bitmap()

    #Make printer in a new layer
    golly.duplicate()
    golly.setoption("syncviews", False)

    #Build new window title from old
    title = golly.getname().split('.')[0]
    title = '%s_Printer [%d] v0.10' % (title, pdy)
    golly.new(title)

    #Make sure we're using the standard Life generation rule
    golly.setrule("B3/S23")

    #Bitmap dimensions. Width MUST be of form 4m, for m >=1
    bmheight = len(bm)
    bmwidth = len(bm[0])
    mid = (bmheight + 1) // 2

    loopw = (bmwidth - 8) // 4
    loopm = pdx * loopw

    #Gliders, heading north-east
    g0 = pattern('2bo$2o$b2o!')
    g1 = pattern('obo$2o$bo!')
    gliders = [g0, g1, g1(0, 2, rccw), g0(0, 2, rccw),
        g0(2, 2, flip), g1(2, 2, flip), g1(2, 0, rcw), g0(2, 0, rcw)]
       
    #Create full Glider loop.
    gg = []
    ox, oy = 35, 23
    for j in xrange(loopw + 1):
        dd = pdx * j
        gg += [gliders[0](ox + dd, oy - dd), gliders[1](ox + 8 + dd, oy - 7 - dd)]
    dd = loopm
    gg += [gliders[2](45 + dd, 4 - dd), gliders[3](37 + dd, -3 - dd)]

    ox, oy = 26 + loopm, -4 - loopm
    for j in xrange(loopw + 1):
        dd = pdx * j
        gg += [gliders[4](ox - dd, oy + dd), gliders[5](ox - 8 - dd, oy + 7 + dd)]
    dd = loopm
    gg += [gliders[6](16, 15), gliders[7](24, 22)]
    parity = 2*((loopw + 1)*(0, 0) + (1, 1))

    def buildLM():
        ''' Build a complete LineMaker '''
        #Populate glider loop. (jj, ii) are bitmap coords
        gloop = pattern()
        for j in xrange(bmwidth):
            jj = (j - delta + bmwidth - 1) % bmwidth

            #Is there a pixel at this location?
            if bm[ii][jj] == parity[j]:               
                gloop += gg[j]  #Add glider to the loop

        #Only put LineMaker if glider loop isn't empty
        if len(gloop) > 0:
            (LMBlank + gloop).put(Lx, Ly, trans)

    #Assemble blank LineMaker
    LMBlank = linemaker(loopm)

    #Do upper LineMakers
    trans = identity
    for i in xrange(mid):
        ii = mid - (i + 1)
        io = mid + (i + 1)
        Lx, Ly = io * LMdx, ii * LMdy
        delta = LMsx * io
        buildLM()

    #Do lower LineMakers
    trans = flip_y
    for i in xrange(mid, bmheight):
        ii = i
        io = i + 2
        Lx, Ly = io * LMdx + pdx, ii * LMdy + 128
        delta = LMsx * io - 1
        buildLM()

    #Eaters facing south-east & north-east
    eaterSE = pattern('2o$bo$bobo$2b2o!')
    eaterNE = eaterSE(0, 10, flip_y)
    eY = 59
    eaters = (eaterNE(0, eY), eaterSE(0, eY))
   
    #Eater horizontal displacement. Must be odd
    #bmwidth muliplier determines number of copies visible 'outside' printer.
    eX = (bmheight + 1) * LMdx - (copies * bmwidth - 1) * pdx   
    eX = 1 + eX // 2 * 2    #Adjust parity
    all = pattern()
    for i in xrange(bmheight):
        all += eaters[i % (1 + LMsx % 2)](eX, i * LMdy)
    all.put()   

    #Centre view over bitmap output area
    golly.setpos(str(-pdx * bmwidth // 2 + (bmheight - 1) * LMdx), str(Ly//2))
    #golly.setmag(-2)    #Aliasing effects happen at smaller scales than -2 :(
    golly.fit()

def main():
    #Vertical distance between pixels. Maybe get this from user. minimum = 16
    pdy = 16

    #Generate & display a dot matrix printer from current selection
    dmprinter(pdy, copies=1)

    golly.setcursor("Zoom In")
    golly.setalgo("HashLife")
    golly.setbase(2)
    golly.setstep(6)

main()
example
Mona-Lisa-from-one-cell-by-blah.zip
run zipfile directly in golly
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example
60 lines printer.mc
this is a must see pattern by GilGil
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these do not even begin to "scratch the surface" but are enough for now.

I also hope to have time to follow all the music and other links YOU have posted - thanks !
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 27th, 2020, 1:39 pm

Pretty surreal, isnt it?
Well @otismo, that's the fractal view of the world we live in after
Gaston Julia https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston_Julia
Benoit Mandelbrot https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit_Mandelbrot and
Heinz-Otto Peitgen https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz-Otto_Peitgen
worked on complex numbers z=a+ib.

While you Hilbert worshippers and Conway addicts are still stuck with more ore or less ordinary natural numbers.

BTW: could you please stop to embed the viewer into you posts! It is completely useIess for me since it is way too large to fit on the tiny screen of my android driven smartphone.
Thanx.

And now, I guess, I'll vaporize myself for a little while into the wonderful IPv6 driven soundclouds of this world...
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by otismo » January 27th, 2020, 2:33 pm

viewertest - I c - use code

beehive1gROT90

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x = 36, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o2$bo$obo$obo$bo9$5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o8$33b2o$33bobo$33bo!
life is truthful information

1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,etc. NOT truthful so 0,1 ADDED to cheat, thus : 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,etc.

STILL NOT truthful however, so to-day only 50/50 correct;

when TRUE we call Fibbonnacci Numbers,

when FALSE we call Fibber Magee Numbers.
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Moosey » January 27th, 2020, 4:21 pm

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 1:39 pm
[tries unsuccessfully to make himself look smart--the bold words are a dead giveaway of that intent. Also apparently doesn't think we know what complex numbers are]

While you Hilbert worshippers and Conway addicts are still stuck with more ore or less ordinary natural numbers.
I don't know about you, but a lot of us like number theory, which focuses on natural numbers. And a good handful of us are obsessed with ordinals, myself included. So I'd say we aren't stuck with only naturals
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by pcallahan » January 27th, 2020, 4:31 pm

Moosey wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 4:21 pm
Hubi1857 wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 1:39 pm
[tries unsuccessfully to make himself look smart--the bold words are a dead giveaway of that intent. Also apparently doesn't think we know what complex numbers are]

While you Hilbert worshippers and Conway addicts are still stuck with more ore or less ordinary natural numbers.
I don't know about you, but a lot of us like number theory, which focuses on natural numbers. And a good handful of us are obsessed with ordinals, myself included. So I'd say we aren't stuck with only naturals
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by andrewph33 » January 27th, 2020, 4:35 pm

Welp. I saw something interesting and i thought ntrsc and paulrw needed to see it. I don't understand what this dude is talking about, they will!
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Moosey » January 27th, 2020, 5:23 pm

andrewph33 wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 4:35 pm
Welp. I saw something interesting and i thought ntrsc and paulrw needed to see it. I don't understand what this dude is talking about, they will!
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by KennyFromSouthPark » January 28th, 2020, 12:40 am

pcallahan wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 4:31 pm
Moosey wrote:
January 27th, 2020, 4:21 pm


I don't know about you, but a lot of us like number theory, which focuses on natural numbers. And a good handful of us are obsessed with ordinals, myself included. So I'd say we aren't stuck with only naturals
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 28th, 2020, 3:59 am

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Hubi1857 » January 29th, 2020, 7:22 am

Just in case you have the guts to catch a glimpse of the world beyond the Sandbox of this academic Kindergarten...

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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Moosey » January 29th, 2020, 7:50 am

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 29th, 2020, 7:22 am
Just in case you have the guts to catch a glimpse of the world beyond the Sandbox of this academic Kindergarten...
Will you PLEASE stop slighting this forum and its members? That is very hurtful. You say that as though we are idiots.
Hubi1857 wrote:
January 29th, 2020, 7:22 am
Extinction Rebellions 35th newsletter:

https://rebellion.earth/2020/01/28/1136 ... e-anything

Unless you'd prefer to die in your burning ivory tower feel free to follow the link.
As an academic community, I'd expect a good deal of us care about climate
Particularly since half of us are teens
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Moosey » January 29th, 2020, 11:48 am

Hubi1857 wrote:
January 29th, 2020, 8:24 am
Moosey wrote:
January 29th, 2020, 7:50 am
As an academic community, I'd expect a good deal of us care about climate
Particularly since half of us are teens
[Cuss]!
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I don't know about you, but if you polled this community, you'd probably be hard pressed to find a single voter that does not care about climate change
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by otismo » January 29th, 2020, 3:43 pm

we should all care about climate change

the climate is constantly changing

but instead of worrying/stressing over it

we should learn to deal with it

by having appropriate clothing.....

BTW I have no problem taking direction from people who are younger than I am

that does not mean they jump in and start telling me what to do, however.....
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Re: cellular automata according to Max Planck

Post by Ian07 » January 29th, 2020, 4:16 pm

otismo wrote:
January 29th, 2020, 3:43 pm
we should all care about climate change

. . .

we should learn to deal with it

by having appropriate clothing.....
With all due respect, I'm pretty sure that telling people to "just adapt to the climate" qualifies as not caring about climate change.

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