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Re: Symbiosis

Posted: April 2nd, 2022, 9:38 am
by EvinZL
pzq_alex wrote: March 31st, 2022, 6:12 am Elementary eater with very long repeat time; can you find one with longer?

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
3.A$.BA.AB$4.A$2.2A.A$.A3.A2.2A$B2.2A2.2A$2.B6.A!

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
7.A$7.A.A$.BA4.2A$B4.A$.5A$.A4.2A$2.2A2.A$2.B.A.A$3.BA.A.A$5.2A.B$7.B
!
EDIT: I appear to not have posted these:
RT ~700 HWSS eater

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
11.2A$9.A4.A$8.A$.BA5.A5.A$B4.A2.6A$.5A$.A4.2A$2.2A2.A$2.B.A.A$3.BA.A
.A$5.2A.B$7.B!
ridiculous osc

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
.BA$B4.A3.3A$.5A3.A$.A4.2A2.A$2.2A2.A$2.B.A.A$3.BA.A.A$5.2A.B$7.B!
p56 pps

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x = 27, y = 23, rule = Symbiosis
7.B11.B$5.2A.B9.B.2A$3.BA.A.A9.A.A.AB$2.B.2A4.BA3.AB4.2A.B$2.2A19.2A$
.A4.A13.A4.A$.4A.A13.A.4A$B2.A19.A2.B$.BA21.AB4$10.A5.A$9.A.A3.A.A$.B
A5.A3.A.A3.A5.AB$B4.A3.A.A3.A.A3.A4.B$.5A4.A5.A4.5A$.A4.2A11.2A4.A$2.
2A2.A13.A2.2A$2.B.A.A3.BA3.AB3.A.A.B$3.BA.A.A9.A.A.AB$5.2A.B9.B.2A$7.
B11.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: April 2nd, 2022, 10:06 am
by wwei47
Not quite as long, but an old 198-tick eater from JP21.
viewtopic.php?p=124828#p124828

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: April 2nd, 2022, 10:37 pm
by breaker's glider gun
Hmm...

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x = 77, y = 125, rule = Onetwobirthsymbiosis
52.3B$52.3B$52.3A$52.3A$52.3B$52.3B$52.3A19.3B$52.3A19.3B$52.3B19.3A$
52.3B19.3A$52.3A19.3B$52.3A19.3B$52.3B19.3A$52.3B19.3A$52.3A19.3B$52.
3A19.3B$52.3B19.3A$52.3B19.3A$52.3A19.3B$52.3A19.3B$52.3B19.3A$52.3B19.
3A$52.3A19.3B$52.3A19.3B$52.3B19.3A$52.3B19.3A$52.3A19.3B$52.3A19.3B$
52.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B
19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B
$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.
3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.
3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A
49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B
19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A
$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.
3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.
3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B
49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A
19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A49.3B19.3A
$3B49.3B19.3A$3B49.3A19.3B$3A49.3A19.3B$3A71.3A$3B71.3A$3B71.3B$3A71.
3B$3A71.3A$3B71.3A$3B$3A$3A$3B$3B$3A$3A$3B$3B$3A$3A$3B$3B$3A$3A$3B$3B
$3A$3A$3B$3B$3A$3A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: April 28th, 2022, 11:55 pm
by NimbleRogue
How do you view symbiosis and other rules in the same format in golly?

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: April 29th, 2022, 10:23 am
by wwei47
NimbleRogue wrote: April 28th, 2022, 11:55 pm How do you view symbiosis and other rules in the same format in golly?
Simply paste the ruletable into Golly.

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 1st, 2022, 5:17 am
by pzq_alex
Drifty catalyst:

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x = 7, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
A.A$A.A$3A7$4.A$.A.A.A$B3A.AB$.B.A.A$5.A$5.AB$4.2A2$4.2B$4.2B!
P16 sparker

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
.2A4.2A$BA6.AB$.A.A3.2A$2.4A.A$.B.4A.B$5.B!
Edit: R -> H

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
7.2A$6.2A$7.A7$2B.A2.A.2B$2B.4A.2B$4.2B!
P19-supported P40

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
3.B7.B$4.2A3.2A$3.BA5.AB$3.BA5.AB$4.2A3.2A$AB11.BA4$5.A3.A$4.B.A.A.B$
5.B.A.B$7.B!
Edit2: P114 hw sparker

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
B8.B$.2A4.2A$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.2A4.2A4$.A6.A$B.A4.A.B$.B.4A.B$4.2B!
P714 sharing a stator (!!!)

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
6.2A$6.2A4$B8.B$.2A4.2A$.A6.A$B2A5.AB$.A5.2A$A.2A2.2A.A$A3.A4.2A$4.A4.
A$.A.A.A2.A$B.4A.A.B$.B.4A.B$4.2B!
Edit 1 day later: P12 tnose

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = Symbiosis
5.A2.2A$4.B2.B.A$BA3.3B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 1st, 2022, 9:55 am
by hotcrystal0
A buncha sparkers:
from left to right: P4 birth-supressing dot(works best for the opposite color), P6 dot, P12 edgy domino, P15 banana sparker, another P6 dot

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x = 42, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
27.B$26.AB2.A$25.A.3B6.A$.B2.B6.B6.2B6.B3.BA4.B$.B11.B12.B.B5.A.2BA$A
2.B.B2.AB3.B3.B2.B4.AB2.B3.A2B2.B.B$2.A.A9.A2.B3.B5.2B11.BA$10.2B5.A.
2B14.B$11.A6.A6.AB10.B2.B$25.B13.A$26.A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 3rd, 2022, 10:07 pm
by pzq_alex

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x = 39, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
32.B$17.B14.A$17.A.B11.BA2.B2.A$A5.BA6.AB2.A2.B9.B3.A2.A$.B6.B11.4AB5.
BA4.A$AB5.A$.2B2.B24.BA.B2.A.A$.B2.2BA24.A5.B$2.2A29.A2.B$32.2B3.A!
P22 pipsquirter, P16 domino, P27

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 6th, 2022, 10:13 pm
by hotcrystal0
weird P3-rephasing pre-pulsar shuttle

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x = 21, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
3.B13.B$2.BA13.AB$3.A13.A$BA2.A11.A2.AB$2.A15.A3$6.3A3.3A$5.A3.A.A3.A
$5.A3.A.A3.A$5.A3.A.A3.A$2.A3.3A3.3A3.A$B4A11.4AB$3.2A11.2A$2.BA13.AB
$3.B13.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 7th, 2022, 12:26 am
by breaker's glider gun

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x = 16, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
$5.2A2.2A$5.A4.A$4.A.4A.A$5.A.2B.A$AB4.B2.B4.BA$7.2B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 7th, 2022, 4:06 am
by pzq_alex
P9 obo sparker, P77 based on P32 boat factory

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x = 23, y = 4, rule = Symbiosis
2.A.A$2.B.2B12.B$.B3.BA11.A2BA$A5.B8.B3A.2AB!
Edit: P26 based on the same boat factory

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x = 8, y = 14, rule = Symbiosis
3.B$3.A2BA$B3A.2AB9$3.2A$3.2A$4.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 7th, 2022, 2:48 pm
by hotcrystal0
P11 lightweight sparker, P15 P-sparker, P9 dot, P33 ridiculously strong sparker which probably emits a complex spark

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x = 57, y = 16, rule = Symbiosis
.B3.B22.B$2A.2A.A9.B11.A$6.2AB7.A2.2B4.BA25.AB.B$BA.3A7.BA.2A2.A3.BA27.
A.A$.6AB4.BA.2A9.2A24.B2.A$26.2A23.2B.B$52.2B.BA$55.B$55.A6$51.B.A$51.
A.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 8th, 2022, 9:26 am
by hotcrystal0
Glider eater with transparent block

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x = 8, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
.A$2.B3$5.A$2A3.A.A$2A3.2A3$.B$A$3.2A$3.2A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 9th, 2022, 10:51 am
by pzq_alex
P25 half mw emulator

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x = 6, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$.2A5$5.B$4.A$4.AB$.A2.AB$B.A.A$3.A$3.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 9th, 2022, 4:25 pm
by Period1GliderGun
pzq_alex wrote: May 9th, 2022, 10:51 am P25 half mw emulator

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x = 6, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
.2A$.2A5$5.B$4.A$4.AB$.A2.AB$B.A.A$3.A$3.B!
Removing the block makes it into a p43:

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x = 6, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$.A3.B$4.A$4.AB$.A2.AB$B.A.A$3.A$3.B!
And adding a still life makes a p104:

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
A$.B4$4.3A$3.A3.A$3.A3.AB$4.2A.AB$3.B.A.A$6.A$6.B!
EDIT: p48 and p204:

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x = 67, y = 6, rule = Symbiosis
2.B.2A7.2A.B23.B23.B$3.2A9.2A25.2A19.2A$2.A2.A7.A2.A23.2A.A17.A.2A$BA
3.A7.A3.AB19.BA3.2A15.2A3.AB$2.4A7.4A23.4A17.4A$3.2B9.2B25.2B19.2B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 13th, 2022, 8:07 pm
by hotcrystal0
At around gen 3570 this trench warfare makes something the will eventually stop its growth at around gen 4100.

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x = 36, y = 34, rule = Symbiosis
B.A$B.2A$.B.2A$2.B.A$3.B.A$3.2BA$4.2BA$5.2BA$6.2B3A$8.2B.2A$9.2B.A$10.
2BA$11.B.A$12.B.A$13.B.A$14.4B$16.A2B$18.2B$19.2B$20.AB$21.AB$22.A2B$
23.A.B$23.A3.B$24.A2.B$24.2A2.B$26.A2.B$27.A2.B$28.A2.B$29.A2.2B$30.A
3.B$31.A$32.A.B$33.3A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 14th, 2022, 6:26 pm
by hotcrystal0
P10 domino

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.2BA$5.2B3$BA2.B$3.3B$2.AB2.B$2.A.B.A$5.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 14th, 2022, 8:17 pm
by Sarah
weird version of that

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.2BA$3.B2.B$3.B.B$3.B2.B$BA.B.2B$3.B3.B$2.AB2.B$2.A.B.A$5.B!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 14th, 2022, 10:20 pm
by breaker's glider gun
Sarah wrote: May 14th, 2022, 8:17 pm weird version of that

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.2BA$3.B2.B$3.B.B$3.B2.B$BA.B.2B$3.B3.B$2.AB2.B$2.A.B.A$5.B!
it looks, for a bit, like it stays an oscillator with this change I gave it:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.A$5.2BA$AB4.B$5.2B$6.B$BA$3.3B$2.AB2.B$2.A.B.A$5.B!
... and then it turns into a still life.


actually, what is the smallest x lowest period glider gun in symbiosis?
(and can you make a puffer for it with rakes?)

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 15th, 2022, 6:03 pm
by NimbleRogue
This reaction I found in a soup is kinda crazy

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x = 17, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
5$.B9.A2.A$.2B.B6.4A$2.B.2A6.B$.A4.BA!
Heres a slight modification of it

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x = 36, y = 32, rule = Symbiosis
10$22.B9.A$22.2B.B6.3A$23.B.2A6.B$22.A4.BA!
Wich can be sparked by a glider

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x = 32, y = 23, rule = Symbiosis
4.B$2.B.B$3.2B6$23.A$16.B6.3A$14.B.2A6.B$13.A4.BA!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 15th, 2022, 7:20 pm
by LLAMASKYWALKER
P4

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 x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
B3.A2.A3.B$.A8.A$A2BA4.A2BA$.A2.4A2.A$B10.B!
Domino to 4 dot sparks

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 x = 12, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
B4.2A4.B$.A8.A$A2B2A2.2A2BA$.A.A4.A.A$.A.A4.A.A$A2B2A2.2A2BA$.A8.A$B10.
B!
P11

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 x = 12, y = 10, rule = Symbiosis
5.2A$BA8.AB$A2BA4.A2BA$.A.A.2A.A.A$.A.A4.A.A$A2B2A2.2A2BA$.A3.2A3.A$B
.A.4A.A.B$.A2.A2.A2.A$A2BA4.A2BA!
Domino signal

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 x = 8, y = 111, rule = Symbiosis
B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2A
B$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A
$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$
B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2A
B4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.
2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.
A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A$B2A2.2AB4$B2A2.2AB$.A4.A$.A4.A
$B2A2.2AB2$3.2A!
its 7c/8

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 16th, 2022, 7:44 am
by ihatecorderships
Weird p30 LW emulator

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = Symbiosis
3.2A$.BA2.A$BA.A.AB$.A.A2.A$.A4.AB$BA4.A2$2.A2.A!
EDIT: MW emulator rephases p15 to p40:

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x = 26, y = 11, rule = Symbiosis
3.B3AB$.B2A3.A$.A5.A$.A5.AB$BA6.AB9.B3AB$.A6.A8.B2A3.A$2B6.2B7.A5.A$17.
A5.AB$4.3A9.BA6.AB$3.5A9.A6.A$.B7AB6.2B6.2B!
edit 2: p57 banana

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = Symbiosis
2.A$B2A5.2A$2.2A.2A.A$3.BA$3.BA2.A.B$5.A.B.A$6.B!
edit 3: rephasing a p114 to a p209

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x = 10, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
2.B4.B$4A2.4A$A2.A2.A2.A4$B8.B$.2A4.2A$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.2A4.2A4$.A6.A$B.
A4.A.B$.B.4A.B$4.2B!
and to a p294:

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x = 10, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
2.B4.B$4A2B4A$A2.A2.A2.A$4.2A3$B8.B$.2A4.2A$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.A6.A$.2A4.2A
$A.A4.A.A$2A6.2A$.2A4.2A$B.A4.A.B$.B.4A.B$4.2B!
and to a p132:

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x = 10, y = 18, rule = Symbiosis
2.B4.B$3AB2.B3A$A2.A2.A2.A$.B6.B$.BA4.AB2$B8.B$.2A4.2A$.A6.A$BA6.AB$.
2A4.2A4$.A6.A$B.A4.A.B$.B.4A.B$4.2B!

edit an hour later:
crazy p1135:

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$5.B$3.B3.2AB$3.2A.2A.2A$4.A$2.B.A6.B$3.2A4.2A$3.A5.2A$2.B2A5.AB$3.
A5.2A$2.3A6.2A$2A2.A7.A$2A.A.A3.2A.A$3.A.A4.A$2.B.A4.A.B$3.B.4A.B$6.2B
!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 16th, 2022, 8:36 pm
by hotdogPi
ihatecorderships wrote: May 16th, 2022, 7:44 am edit an hour later:
crazy p1135:

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
4.A$5.B$3.B3.2AB$3.2A.2A.2A$4.A$2.B.A6.B$3.2A4.2A$3.A5.2A$2.B2A5.AB$3.
A5.2A$2.3A6.2A$2A2.A7.A$2A.A.A3.2A.A$3.A.A4.A$2.B.A4.A.B$3.B.4A.B$6.2B
!
This isn't really that crazy. You have something that qualifies as explosive but is impossible to escape the "cage".

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 17th, 2022, 1:48 am
by pzq_alex
P21 TL shuttle

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B2.B$3.B.A2.A3$7.A$6.A.A$5.A3.A$6.A.A$7.A$7.A$5.A3.A2$4.A$3.B2A.
A$2.BA$2.3A$.BA.A$.A.A$B2A!
Edit: (admittedly weird) also P21 TL shuttle, using two copies of the catalyst:

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x = 7, y = 12, rule = Symbiosis
A2.B2.B$B.A2.A2$3.3A7$B.A2.A$A2.B2.B!
Edit2: still P21, uses a slightly different reaction

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x = 10, y = 19, rule = Symbiosis
3.A2.B2.B$3.B.A2.A4$6.3A$6.A.A$6.3A2$7.A$5.A3.A2$4.A$3.B2A.A$2.BA$2.3A
$.BA.A$.A.A$B2A!

Re: Symbiosis

Posted: May 17th, 2022, 7:22 am
by affamatodidio
Agh! Almost a stable LWSS to glider.

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x = 19, y = 9, rule = Symbiosis
17.A$A2.A11.3A$4.A9.A$A3.A7.A2.3A$.4A7.3A3.A$16.2A$12.4A$12.A2.A$13.A
B!
This genuinely saddens me.