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hotdogPi wrote: October 26th, 2023, 9:11 am Maybe they're seeing the success of B35/S23 and trying to copy it? Just a guess.

GUYTU6J wrote: October 26th, 2023, 9:09 am And no, I will not think B35/S23 as a succesful rule before it develops reusable signal circuits. Even if my opinion does not matter, I would not approve of that LifeWiki article.

qqd wrote: December 1st, 2023, 8:42 am ...
Completed! Lobster to 3 gliders, in all directions except where the lobster comes from:

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RLE

x = 388, y = 388, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17b2o42bo$59b3o17b2o11bo$58bo20bo11bobo$45b2o11b2o20bo10bobo$45b
2o32b2o9b2ob3o$5b2o89bo$4bobo78b2o3b2ob3o$4b2o79b2o3b2obo3$76b2o$76b2o
2$34b2o58b2o$34bobo57bo$36bo55bobo$36b2o54b2o3$9b2o33b2o33b2o$b2ob2o2b
o2bo31bobo32bobo$2bobo4bobo31bo34bo$obobo5bo31b2o33b2o$2o2bob2o$4bo2b
o$5bo4bo$6b5o$75b2o$8b3o8b2o54bo5b2o$7bo2bo8b2o55b3obobo$7b2o69bobo$79b
2o4$116bo$114b3o$73bo39bo$73b3o37b2o$76bo$75b2o14b2o$91b2o7$99b2o$99b
2o3$121b2o$92b2o16b2o9b2o$92bobo14bo2bo$94bo15bobo$94b2o15bo$150bo$148b
3o$147bo$98bob2o45b2o$96b3ob2o13b2o$95bo19b2o$96b3ob2o6b2o45b2o$98bob
o7b2o46bo$98bobo55bob2o$99bo48b2o4b3o2bo$148b2o3bo3b2o$153b4o$139b2o15b
o$138bobo12b3o$84b2o52bo13bo$84b2o51b2o14b5o$157bo$91bob2o60bo$91b2ob
o60b2o7$89bo$88bobo$89b2o3$119b2o$119b2o4$110b2o$111bo$111bobo$112b2o
$74b2o$74b2o$109b2o$110bo9b2o4b2o$110bobo7bobo3bobo$111b2o8bo6bo$128b
2o$117b2o$117b2o6$75b2o$76bo$73b3o4b2o3b2o$73bo6bo4bo2bo$81bo4b3o$80b
2o$85bob2o7b2o3bo9b2o$85b2obo7bo3bobo8b2o$97bo3b2o2b2o$98bo7bo$96bob5o
3bobo$95bobo4bo4b2o$95bobo2bo$96bo3b2o58$194b3o$194bo$195bo2b2o$198b2o
$194b2o$195b2o$194bo2bo2$196bo2bo$196bo3bo$197b3obo$202bo$182b2o2bobo
13bo$182bobob2o13bo$182bo4bo2b2o13b2o$188bo3bo6b2o2b2o2bo$184b2o6bo6b
o2bo$184b2o4bobo4b2o$191bo5bo3bo3bo$192bo2bo4b2o$193b2o3bo5bobo$197bo
8b2o$197bo4bo$196bo3bo$196bo5b2o$197bo5bo155$374b3o$374bo$375bo2b2o$378b
2o$374b2o$375b2o$374bo2bo2$376bo2bo$376bo3bo$377b3obo$382bo$362b2o2bo
bo13bo$362bobob2o13bo$362bo4bo2b2o13b2o$368bo3bo6b2o2b2o2bo$364b2o6bo
6bo2bo$364b2o4bobo4b2o$371bo5bo3bo3bo$372bo2bo4b2o$373b2o3bo5bobo$377b
o8b2o$377bo4bo$376bo3bo$376bo5b2o$377bo5bo!

JP21 wrote: June 27th, 2020, 9:20 am Lobster-to-g:

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x = 198, y = 154, rule = LifeHistory
139.2A$139.A.A$141.A4.2A$137.4A.2A2.A2.A$82.2A11.A41.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$
81.B2AB9.A.A42.BABABA.A$82.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A11.2D18.B2ABA.A$81.B.B9.
2A.2A2.A2.A.A2.3A9.D20.2B.BA$81.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A5.A5.BD.D19.3B$81.6B6.
2ABA2.4A.A5.2A.3B.B2D11.2A6.4B$81.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.8B14.A6.B2A3B$82.13B
2.A.AB2.A8.6B14.A.AB3.B2A3B$80.13B5.A.A2B.A7.5B16.2AB.10B$79.15B5.A2B
.2A6.7B17.13B$79.15B4.3B10.6B18.14B$78.17B.B.2B10.7B18.15B$78.29B4.6B
20.8B2.4B$77.13B2A16B2.7B20.6B5.4B$76.14B2A16B2.7B19.9B4.4B$75.2AB3.
27B.9B17.4B4.2A5.4B$74.A2.A4.36B16.4B5.A7.4B$73.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B
4.B10.4B7.3A5.4B$73.A7.6B14.19B.B2A8.4B10.A6.4B$72.2A6.9B14.19B2A7.4B
19.4B7.A$67.2A10.4B4.2A15.17B.B7.4B21.4B6.3A$68.A9.4B5.A15.17B9.4B23.
4B8.A$66.A10.4B7.3A12.17B8.4B25.4B6.A.A$66.5A5.4B5.3A2.A10.2AB.15B7.
4B27.4B5.A.AB$71.A4.4B5.A2.A11.A.AB4.12B6.4B29.4B5.A3B$68.3AB2.7B.BA.
A2.2A10.A9.11B4.4B31.4B6.4B$67.A.2B3.7B.B2A14.2A8.13B2.4B33.4B5.6B$
67.4A12B26.12B2.4B35.4B4.7B$65.2A2.BA3B2A7B27.10B2.4B37.4B2.8B.4B.B$
64.A2.3AB.2B2A7B23.A4.9B.4B39.17B.B2A$64.2A.A.B3.10B21.3A4.13B41.18B
2A$67.A8.8B19.A7.12B42.16B.2B$67.2A7.9B18.2A7.5B.4B43.16B$77.3B2.4B
15.4B7.4B.4B44.15B$75.5B3.4B14.2B9.8B43.2AB.12B$75.2A7.4B12.4B.2B2A2.
8B43.A.AB2.11B$76.A8.4B9.9B2A.8B44.A5.10B3.2A$73.3A10.4B7.20B44.2A5.
2B2A6B3.A$73.A13.4B5.11B.8B7.2A42.3B2A6B4.A$88.4B3.10B2.8B9.A7.A35.
10B3.2A$89.4B.10B3.7B9.A6.3A18.2B15.8B.B2A$90.13B6.4B10.2A4.A19.6B3.A
8.7B3.B2AB2A$91.11B6.4B.2B.B7.B4.2A17.7B3.3A6.6B6.B.A$91.11B5.4B.6B5.
8B16.9B5.A6.6B4.2A3.A$90.12B4.13B4.6B17.9B5.2A6.8B.A2.4A$89.12B4.14B.
12B13.10B5.5B2.9BA.A.A$88.12B4.16B2A11B2.B8.12B6.3B2.7B.2BAB.A.2A$87.
14B2.14B2.B2A15B6.4B.9B4.5B.6B3.2B2.A.A$86.30B4.16B2A4.4B4.3B2A4B2.
12B4.B.2A2.A$85.31B5.3B2A8B.B2A3.4B5.2BA2BA17B3.A.A2.A.A$84.31B7.BABA
7B3.B3.4B7.2B2A18B3.2A2.A.A$83.31B9.BA6B8.4B9.21B8.A$82.31B12.7B6.4B
8.23B$81.31B14.7B4.4B9.2A5.16B$80.31B13.5B.4B2.4B11.A7.13B10.A$79.31B
14.2A5.8B9.3A9.11B9.3A$78.31B16.A6.6B10.A11.10B9.A8.A$77.33B12.3A8.4B
22.14B6.2A5.3A$76.35B11.A9.6B19.24B4.A$75.31B2.4B19.8B17.23B6.2A$74.
31B4.4B6.A10.4B2.4B16.24B2.5B$73.31B6.4B5.3A7.4B4.4B14.25B2.3B$72.31B
8.4B7.A5.4B6.4B13.31B7.2A$71.31B10.4B5.2A4.4B8.4B13.21B.8B8.A$70.31B
12.4B4.9B10.4B10.3B.6B2.B7.2B3.10B3.B.A.2A$69.31B14.4B5.6B12.4B9.2A4.
4B.3B5.BA2B2.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$68.31B16.4B2.8B13.4B9.A5.2B2.B2AB4.A.A3.7B
2A3BAB2.2A$67.31B18.15B12.4B5.3A11.2A6.A4.12B4A$66.31B20.14B13.4B4.A
24.2AB.7B3.2B.A$65.31B22.13B14.4B27.A.AB.7B2.B3A$64.31B24.10B.B2A13.
4B26.A5.4B4.A$63.31B27.3B2AB3.BA.A13.4B24.2A5.4B5.5A$62.31B28.3B2AB6.
A14.4B29.4B10.A$61.31B31.4B6.2A14.4B27.4B9.A$60.31B32.3B24.4B25.4B10.
2A$59.31B30.AB.2B26.4B23.4B$58.31B30.A.AB2AB26.4B21.4B$57.31B31.A.ABA
BAB26.4B19.4B$56.31B29.2A.A.A.A.A2.A25.4B6.A10.4B$55.31B30.A2.A2.2A.
4A26.4B5.3A7.4B$54.31B33.2A4.A31.4B7.A5.4B$53.31B40.A.A30.4B5.2A4.4B$
52.31B42.2A31.4B4.9B$51.31B77.4B5.6B$50.31B79.4B2.8B$49.31B81.15B$48.
31B83.14B$47.31B85.13B$46.31B87.10B.B2A$45.31B90.3B2AB3.BA.A$44.31B
91.3B2AB6.A$43.31B94.4B6.2A$42.31B95.3B$41.31B93.AB.2B$40.31B93.A.AB
2AB$39.31B94.A.ABABAB$38.31B92.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$37.31B93.A2.A2.2A.4A$36.
31B96.2A4.A$35.31B103.A.A$34.31B105.2A$33.31B$32.31B$31.31B$30.31B$
29.31B$28.31B$27.31B$26.31B$25.31B$24.31B$23.31B$22.31B$21.31B$20.31B
$19.31B$18.31B$17.31B$16.31B$15.31B$14.31B$13.31B$12.31B$11.31B$10.B
3A27B$9.4BA26B$8.2A2BA26B$8.2A28B$10.2B2A23B$10.B2A23B$9.BA2BA21B$8.
26B$7.BA2BA21B$6.BA3BA20B$5.BAB3A20B$4.BA24B$3.2BA13BABA2B2A3B$2.4BA
13B2ABABA2B$.2A13B2A2BA4BAB$A2B2A2B2A6BA3BA6B$2.3BA2BA6BA4B2.2AB$3.6B
2A4BABAB3.2A$2.A3BA3BA5BAB$.5B2A4BA2BAB$BABAB.3BA3B2AB$2A2B.5BA4B$.2B
.BA4BA3B$3.4BA.2BAB$3.B2AB3.BA$4.AB4.A!

hotcrystal0 wrote: December 12th, 2023, 6:19 pm 3-cell high diehard, lifespan can be extended by making the leftmost “block placer” longer:

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x = 36, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
15b3o6b12o$b2o2b2o2b2o3bo3bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o$12o2bo5bo!

confocaloid wrote: December 12th, 2023, 7:01 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote: December 12th, 2023, 6:19 pm 3-cell high diehard, lifespan can be extended by making the leftmost “block placer” longer:

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x = 36, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
15b3o6b12o$b2o2b2o2b2o3bo3bobo4b2o2b2o2b2o$12o2bo5bo!

Maybe apgsearch needs the 3x86 pseudosymmetry (by analogy with 8x32, 4x64, 2x128, 1x256)?
Unfortunately this would be slightly imperfect because 3 x 86 = 258 > 256 and one would need to compute the last two bits from the first 256 bits.

HerscheltheHerschel wrote: Please create the page [...]

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 9:12 amMaybe we should consider MCPS for everything, like oscillator s, guns and basically all.

confocaloid wrote: December 16th, 2023, 4:24 pm

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 9:12 amMaybe we should consider MCPS for everything, like oscillator s, guns and basically all.

MCPS is an useful way to measure patterns and an alternative to bounding box or population. The problem is that it is nontrivial to compute, unless it is very small. One could enumerate all patterns with MCPS below 10 or so, but you'll need an algorithm for solving an interesting puzzle to be able to determine MCPS of larger patterns.

Can you write a Golly script that reliably computes the MCPS of a pattern, e.g. some glider synthesis of your choice, or the p46-based PRNG, or Sir Robin, or waterbear?

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:24 pm Hard, but do able; you just need to find the population first, identify the polyplets, then bridge the gaps by ensuring each extra count has as many neighbours as possible.

confocaloid wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:33 pm

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:24 pm Hard, but do able; you just need to find the population first, identify the polyplets, then bridge the gaps by ensuring each extra count has as many neighbours as possible.

I could not understand what you mean by "ensuring each extra count has as many neighbours as possible".
How do you determine the MCPS of the Bandersnatch?

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:44 pm

confocaloid wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:33 pm

Haycat2009 wrote: December 16th, 2023, 10:24 pm Hard, but do able; you just need to find the population first, identify the polyplets, then bridge the gaps by ensuring each extra count has as many neighbours as possible.

I could not understand what you mean by "ensuring each extra count has as many neighbours as possible".
How do you determine the MCPS of the Bandersnatch?

Its 98. By bridging gaps.

x = 32, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
27.A$26.A.A$26.A.A$25.2A.3A$13.2A16.A$13.2A10.2A.3A$15.B9.2A.A$15.B
11.B$16.B9.B$16.B8.B$17.B7.B$17.B6.B.B$18.B4.B3.B$18.B3.B5.2A$19.A.B
6.2A$18.A.A$18.A2.A$19.2A.B$2.2A19.B$.A.A20.2B$.A2.B21.2A$2A3.B20.2A$
6.3B15.2B$9.B12.2B$10.B3.B5.2B$11.B.B.2B2.B$12.B4.2A$17.2A!

flexiverse wrote: June 21st, 2010, 8:30 amBut I'm amazed how much jargon there is this forum... looks like a steep learning curve to understand the Andrew Wade Self Replicator !

EricG wrote: August 29th, 2012, 7:43 pmCarter Bays calls his rakes "glider guns" (although he acknowledges that Life enthusiasts call them rakes, using their "fanciful jargon") :D

danbae wrote: February 4th, 2016, 2:18 pmComplete rookie here. Just registered. Don't understand half of the jargon. Simple question: [...]

NotLiving wrote: May 4th, 2016, 11:26 pm

dvgrn wrote: For example, one really simple way to solve the Conway's Life omniperiodicity problem would be to find a 2c/3 signal elbow, or alternatively a 2c/3 double-signal to single-signal converter (since we already have an elbow).

Jargon! I'll need some time to read that.

Apple Bottom wrote: June 15th, 2016, 2:48 pm Long^7 is "stupidly long", and long^8 is "ridiculously long". In the linked thread I also suggested that long^9 be called "ludicrously long".

I think we should make the rest canon as well. The Conway Life community is known for its expressiveness and flowery, evocative jargon, after all.

How about we start by making long^4 "remarkably long"? That's a fairly modest description that fits well with "very long" and "extra long". I'd also propose long^5 to be "terribly long", and long^6 "absurdly long".

dvgrn wrote: December 18th, 2017, 8:02 pmJune 2017: new and much smaller spiral-growth pattern based on single-channel technology, demonstrating the construction of lossless signal elbows (Snark reflectors). -- I may be a little biased about this one, and the impenetrable jargon probably gives it away. Also in June, new Demonoid and Orthogonoid spaceships.

dvgrn wrote: March 2nd, 2019, 7:19 amPeople do write walkthroughs for creating various large patterns now and then, but those are usually talking to people who know all the strange jargon already, so might be jumping in too much at the deep end.

Silkmoth wrote: July 24th, 2020, 8:56 pmLooking at the Wiki for the game of life and seeing massive structures and jargon terms was a bit intimidating, but- I wanted to share something I'm a little bit proud of!

bubblegum wrote: February 14th, 2021, 4:01 am0 History? Just browse through the wiki and forums, I guess. Ask questions if you're confused on anything, especially all this weird jargon we use.

dvgrn wrote: April 19th, 2021, 6:19 am

Dets65 wrote: April 18th, 2021, 8:43 pm I was going to write a brief "rough draft" of an intro page, but I am admittedly not anywhere near an expert and multiple, hyperlinked posts/pages would probably work best.

I think this might be a case where it's very useful to be "not anywhere near an expert". It's sometimes hard for the experts to even know what to explain, or to explain anything clearly without using jargon that only other experts can understand anyway.

dvgrn wrote: November 10th, 2022, 7:05 pmThe purpose of the blog post is to have something out there with a title that will read well on Hacker News and Slashdot and Reddit and so on, for people who don't know RCT jargon. Which is ... the entire population of the world, minus about fifty people.

confocaloid wrote: December 20th, 2023, 6:44 am /newtopic

Here are some forum quotes about jargon that I could find

iNoMed (via discord) wrote:cis-eater7hook on long^3 bingus

Haycat2009 wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 11:52 pmSus Rule for B38/S234c, Air Jordan for B34567/S456 and Chicken nugget for B3/S23/8?

dvgrn (via discord) wrote:These diehards do just keep getting progressively superer and duperer.

HerscheltheHerschel wrote: December 26th, 2023, 9:52 am I am utterly speechless at the moment... Behold, the new longest necropost with a time difference of 14 years, 9 months, 1 day:
viewtopic.php?f=2&p=174203#p174203

It is currently too underrated.

HerscheltheHerschel wrote: December 26th, 2023, 9:52 am (Sorry for doublepost)
I am utterly speechless at the moment... Behold, the new longest necropost with a time difference of 14 years, 9 months, 1 day:
viewtopic.php?f=2&p=174203#p174203