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Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 5:16 pm
by EvinZL
amount of posts

[s]time to change the situation[/s]

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 7:18 pm
by MathAndCode
goldenratio wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm As discussed on Discord, this is how dire the forum situation is right now:
I have posted on Symbiosis, so you must either add a striped region for their intersection or make the percentages add up to more than 100%.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 7:46 pm
by Hunting
goldenratio wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm As discussed on Discord, this is how dire the forum situation is right now:
那当然了,物以类聚,人以群分,Discord上的人都跟Goldenratio一样,得出Hunting advertising leaplife占9%的结论不奇怪。

现在论坛一切正常,这些都是你们臆想出来的。

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
by Moosey
Seriously, you are Gustavo Ramos Rehermann! I kept Gustavo Ramos Rehermann in my ignore list! :shock: REMOVING NOW FROM IGNORE LIST

Oh wait, we are still rivals. I will also do a trivial pattern, other than methusynthesis, but this time the credits will be mine. And moreover, if it is to be a methusynthesis, my methusynthesis will be smaller and run at lower period! Unfortunately that means it will have less than 23 cells, but will hold a record!

When we get famous and scoreboards show '[REDACTED] vs. Rehermann' I will never admit it, but ONLY now I used your trivial pattern to make a semi-pseudo replicator:

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
by Moosey
goldenratio wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm As discussed on Discord, this is how dire the forum situation is right now:
lmr2o

but that's incorrect, this is more accurate:
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Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 8:11 pm
by Moosey
more pie chart
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Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 8:54 pm
by Hunting
Moosey wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
goldenratio wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm As discussed on Discord, this is how dire the forum situation is right now:
lmr2o

but that's incorrect, this is more accurate:
cwl activity chart.png
There are two BokaBBs?

BokaBB have 1361 posts and MathAndCode 1523 FYI

LeapLife advertising have 526 (the number of my posts containing "LeapLife") minus 301 posts (Posting in the LeapLife thread which is not advertising) = 226
The discord server afaik
The discord server afaik
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The forum in terms of total post length
The forum in terms of total post length
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Re: Random posts

Posted: December 3rd, 2020, 10:11 pm
by goldenratio
Hey, at least it's not the wiki.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 12:04 am
by MathAndCode
wwei23's signature still begins with @Hunting. SquishyBoi's signature about conduit-finding has ended, but its legacy lives on.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 1:08 am
by ColorfulGalaxy
gameoflifemaniac wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 8:38 am Eater 2 RLE by hand
attempt 1:

Code: Select all

3bob2o$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$2bobo$2bobo$3bo!
attempt 2:

Code: Select all

3bob2o$b3ob2o$o$b3ob2o$3bobo$3bobo$4bo!
success!
What about typing apgcode by hand?
User:ColorfulGalaxy/List_of_Patterns_by_apgcode

Summary of anti-LeapLife arguments

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 5:05 am
by Hunting
Moosey: Do not advertise LeapLife. MirrorLife good!
Goldenratio: Do not advertise LeapLife. VesselLife good!

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 8:57 am
by Moosey
Hunting wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 8:54 pm
Moosey wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 7:49 pm
goldenratio wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 2:18 pm As discussed on Discord, this is how dire the forum situation is right now:
lmr2o

but that's incorrect, this is more accurate:
cwl activity chart.png
There are two BokaBBs?

BokaBB have 1361 posts and MathAndCode 1523 FYI

LeapLife advertising have 526 (the number of my posts containing "LeapLife") minus 301 posts (Posting in the LeapLife thread which is not advertising) = 226

discord.PNG

forum.PNG
Nah, the discord is 50% CA, 45% everything else, and 5% arguments

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 9:47 am
by Hunting
Moosey wrote: December 4th, 2020, 8:57 am
Hunting wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 8:54 pm
Moosey wrote: December 3rd, 2020, 7:49 pm

lmr2o

but that's incorrect, this is more accurate:
cwl activity chart.png
There are two BokaBBs?

BokaBB have 1361 posts and MathAndCode 1523 FYI

LeapLife advertising have 526 (the number of my posts containing "LeapLife") minus 301 posts (Posting in the LeapLife thread which is not advertising) = 226

discord.PNG

forum.PNG
Nah, the discord is 50% CA, 45% everything else, and 5% arguments
It feels like 50% arguments for me since the communism thing

What's wrong with communism?

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 9:59 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
Hunting wrote: December 4th, 2020, 9:47 am It feels like 50% arguments for me since the communism thing

What's wrong with communism?
Can someone tell me what this is all about? I don't use Discord. What communism? Communism is good.
Please look at Word Chains. I've been waiting all day for someone to reply there.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 4th, 2020, 11:06 am
by Hunting
Really, if I don't advertise, no one would ever notice there's now a 650-gen 6x6 methuselah in LeapLife. Sure it's not terribly notable, meant as a hard rule, but even those semi-enthusiasts doesn't watch the tedious thread, so what's wrong with posting highlights in LeapLife elsewhere?

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Posted: December 4th, 2020, 12:18 pm
by praosylen
:thonk:

Also, does anyone here know the muffin man?

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 4:33 am
by Hunting
I can hardly read MathAndCode's posts. He's like, I can overcome everything experienced enthusiasts investigated for 50 years! No one even know how to program and my idea is definitely new.

Anti-anti-LeapLife arguments

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 8:53 am
by Hunting
LeapLife is very boring on itself for sure. But after looking for "interesting" rules for several years, I finally got bored.

Orthogonoids are coming out of every rule now, it's no longer even impressive. So here's LeapLife, a rule so extremely stable that it's hard to do anything other than die, but isn't it epic to see a Demonoid or other advanced constructs in such a rule, in the same sense that a Malbolge FizzBuzz program is more interesting than a Python FizzBuzz program. Unlike rules which have an Orthogonoid or Geminoid, it doesn't even have glider of two different speeds on the same direction, or an easy splitter, etc.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 9:33 pm
by MathAndCode
Hunting wrote: December 5th, 2020, 4:33 am I can hardly read MathAndCode's posts. He's like, I can overcome everything experienced enthusiasts investigated for 50 years! No one even know how to program and my idea is definitely new.
While some of my posts may be like that, I do not think that your interpretation is representative of all of my posts. For example, I have on several times refrained from writing code relevant to RCT-based universal constructors because I knew or figured that someone else had already written code (which is currently serving as a setback to an idea for sixteen-glider universal construction). In order so that I can improve myself more, could you please tell me in which particular areas I tend to exhibit this mindset the most strongly?

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 9:55 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:33 pm
Hunting wrote: December 5th, 2020, 4:33 am I can hardly read MathAndCode's posts. He's like, I can overcome everything experienced enthusiasts investigated for 50 years! No one even know how to program and my idea is definitely new.
While some of my posts may be like that, I do not think that your interpretation is representative of all of my posts. For example, I have on several times refrained from writing code relevant to RCT-based universal constructors because I knew or figured that someone else had already written code (which is currently serving as a setback to an idea for sixteen-glider universal construction). In order so that I can improve myself more, could you please tell me in which particular areas I tend to exhibit this mindset the most strongly?
Mostly in conduit finding, you're fine anywhere else
And in general:
Don't use Double/Triple B3/S23 for much unless it's absolutely necessary since it makes the patterns much more confusing (Just post multiple patterns)
And don't post long obnoxious posts like this
And just type "pi" instead of that weird character

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 10:20 pm
by Hunting
MathAndCode wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:33 pm
Hunting wrote: December 5th, 2020, 4:33 am I can hardly read MathAndCode's posts. He's like, I can overcome everything experienced enthusiasts investigated for 50 years! No one even know how to program and my idea is definitely new.
While some of my posts may be like that, I do not think that your interpretation is representative of all of my posts. For example, I have on several times refrained from writing code relevant to RCT-based universal constructors because I knew or figured that someone else had already written code (which is currently serving as a setback to an idea for sixteen-glider universal construction). In order so that I can improve myself more, could you please tell me in which particular areas I tend to exhibit this mindset the most strongly?
Conduit finding (Century is conduit-worthy blah blah blah) and the recent Sir Robin "gliderless gun" thing. Many Lifenthusiasts are computer scientists (David Eppstein for example) so what you come up with is definitely thought of before. It only remains "unexplored" because it ended up being unworthy.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 10:25 pm
by wwei23
MathAndCode wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:33 pmIn order so that I can improve myself more, could you please tell me in which particular areas I tend to exhibit this mindset the most strongly?
I think you're perfectly fine the way you are. :P
goldenratio wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:55 pm Don't use Double/Triple B3/S23 for much unless it's absolutely necessary since it makes the patterns much more confusing (Just post multiple patterns)
I don't see how it does that. I personally find it easy to interpret such patterns.
goldenratio wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:55 pm And don't post long obnoxious posts like this
While I agree that such posts in general shouldn't exist, MathAndCode had a valid point there. BokaBB was refusing to give us RLEs, and I literally had to reverse-engineer the ladder they posted just to see it work.
goldenratio wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:55 pm And just type "pi" instead of that weird character
I don't think it's that weird. If we were handwriting these posts, I'd think we would use the actual π character instead of "Pi", although that's just my opinion.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 10:55 pm
by Hunting
MathAndCode wrote: December 5th, 2020, 9:33 pm
Hunting wrote: December 5th, 2020, 4:33 am I can hardly read MathAndCode's posts. He's like, I can overcome everything experienced enthusiasts investigated for 50 years! No one even know how to program and my idea is definitely new.
While some of my posts may be like that, I do not think that your interpretation is representative of all of my posts. For example, I have on several times refrained from writing code relevant to RCT-based universal constructors because I knew or figured that someone else had already written code (which is currently serving as a setback to an idea for sixteen-glider universal construction). In order so that I can improve myself more, could you please tell me in which particular areas I tend to exhibit this mindset the most strongly?
Again:
MathAndCode wrote: October 9th, 2020, 8:56 pm I figured that an Eater 2 would have a decent chance of forming from a two-glider seed for two reasons:
  1. It's symmetric.
  2. It's an eater, which carries two advantages.
    1. It will still form even if it initially forms with a spark instead of a block for certain sparks.
    2. If the seed generates an Eater 2 and something else that would destroy most objects, the Eater 2 could still survive. (I think that I saw a synthesis of some fishhook-tie where the fishhook eats something about five generations after being formed.)
I figured that the second reason would also help make an Eater 5 likely.
That is like saying: I figured that a spaghetti monster would have a decent chance of being the output of a century conduit for two reasons: It's symmetric, and it have several sparks to survive.

I'm blocking you to avoid reading such handwaving posts. Really annoying. 这就叫做“民科”

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 11:08 pm
by wwei23
That does make a spaghetti monster MORE likely to be the output of a century conduit than it would be if it were asymmetric and had no sparks. It's not likely by any means at all, but it still improves the odds. First of all, symmetry can be gained, but not lost on its own, so you already have a slight bias towards symmetric objects. Second of all, being able to catalyze does mean you're more resilient than you would be otherwise, this improves your odds further of finding a spaghetti monster than it would have. Like I said, it's not likely by any means, but it's still more likely than it would have been otherwise. While I don't believe an eater 2 is very likely, it's still incomparably more likely than a spaghetti monster. As a result, it might be worths searching for. MathAndCode specifically said a two-glider seed, not a two-object seed, which means you also have the additional advantage of being able to start out symmetric. After that, it's likely just letting apgsearch ram gliders into block fields or something until an eater 2 pops out. Not very likely, but I think it's decent enough to give it a try when I get a chance.

Re: Random posts

Posted: December 5th, 2020, 11:10 pm
by goldenratio
Hunting wrote: December 5th, 2020, 10:55 pm I'm blocking you to avoid reading such handwaving posts. Really annoying. 这就叫做“民科”
...that's probably too excessive
But he has a point: for example instead of saying this
MathAndCode wrote: November 17th, 2020, 11:43 am That LWSS eater does not seem useless (although it's probably already known) for multiple reasons. It can be constructed with only two gliders. While this is also true of a fishhook, this particular LWSS eater can be constructed in two ways due to its symmetry, which makes it more versatile. In addition, this LWSS eater is half of a blockade, so it is possible that one half of a blockade could be used as an LWSS eater and the other half could be used for something else.
You can say this
More concise to say this wrote:That eater is probably known, since it's only two blocks. If it somehow isn't it could be useful since it's only a half-blockade.
(By the way that particular LWSS eater is definitely one of the top five most rediscovered patterns)