The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

[wwei23]

Under those conditions, engineering a block restoration has the highest chance of success.

True, but couldn't we just split the output and rebuild the block? My 3-engine cordership Heisenburp for the one 3-engine cordership that couldn't be Heisenburped normally does this:

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x = 349, y = 346, rule = B3/S23
255b2o3b2o$255b2o2bob3o$259bo4bo$255b4ob2o2bo$255bo2bobobob2o$258bobob
obo$259b2obobo$263bo2$249b2o$250bo7b2o$250bobo5b2o$251b2o4$294bo$293bo
bo$293bobo$261b2o29b2ob3o$261bo18b2o16bo$262b3o15b2o10b2ob3o$264bo27b
2obo5$170b2o3b2o$170b2o2bob3o$174bo4bo115b2o$170b4ob2o2bo106bo8b2o$
170bo2bobobob2o104bobo$173bobobobo105bo2bo$174b2obobo106b2o$178bo90b2o
$268bobo$164b2o102bo24b2o$165bo7b2o92b2o24b2o$165bobo5b2o$166b2o2$302b
o$284b2o15bobo$284b2o15bobo$300b2ob3o$288b2o16bo$176b2o110b2o10b2ob3o$
176bo123b2obo$177b3o$179bo5$303b2o$294bo8b2o$293bobo$208bo84bo2bo$206b
3o85b2o$205bo71b2o$205b2o69bobo$276bo24b2o$275b2o24b2o$66b2o3b2o$64b3o
bo2b2o$63bo4bo$63bo2b2ob4o66bo170bo$62b2obobobo2bo64b5o14b2o37b2o95b2o
15bobo$63bobobobo66bo5bo13bo37bobo5b2o88b2o15bobo$63bobob2o67bo2b3o12b
obo37bo7b2o104b2ob3o$64bo70b2obo15b2o37b2o101b2o16bo$135bo2b4o154b2o
10b2ob3o$77b2o57b2o3bo3b2o60bo100b2obo$68b2o7bo60b3o4b2o56b2obobo$68b
2o5bobo60bo63bobobobo$75b2o58b2obo60bo2bobobob2o$135b2ob2o59b4ob2o2bo$
203bo4bo$46bo152b2o2bob3o$46b3o97b2o51b2o3b2o105b2o$49bo97bo154bo8b2o$
48b2o94b3o154bobo$65b2o77bo156bo2bo$66bo235b2o$37b2ob2o21b3o219b2o$37b
2obo22bo220bobo$40bo243bo24b2o$40b3o4b2o234b2o24b2o$38b2o3bo3b2o$37bo
2b4o78b2o3b2o$37b2obo15b2o62b3obo2b2o$38bo2b3o12bobo60bo4bo$38bo5bo13b
o60bo2b2ob4o171b2o$39b5o14b2o58b2obobobo2bo171b2o$41bo77bobobobo$119bo
bob2o$120bo2$133b2o$48b2o74b2o7bo$48bo75b2o5bobo$49b3o79b2o$51bo3$104b
o$104b3o$107bo$106b2o13b2o$122bo$119b3o$119bo4$116b2o$109b2o5bobo$109b
2o7bo$118b2o$92bo$90b3o12bo$89bo14bobob2o$89b2o13bobobobo$103b2obobobo
2bo$104bo2b2ob4o225bo$97b2ob2o2bo4bo103bo123b3o$98bob2o3b3obo2b2o65bo
15b2o14b5o120bo$98bo8b2o3b2o43bo6b2o11b3o16bo13bo5bo119b2o$90b2o4b3o
57bobo5b2o10bo19bobo12b3o2bo$90b2o3bo3b2o56bo18b2o19b2o15bob2o$95b4o2b
o109b4o2bo126b2ob2o$81b2o15bob2o104b2o3bo3b2o50bo77bob2o$80bobo12b3o2b
o105b2o4b3o52b3o75bo$80bo13bo5bo113bo55bo22bo43b2o4b3o$79b2o14b5o114bo
b2o51b2o20b3o43b2o3bo3b2o$97bo115b2ob2o72bo51b4o2bo$249b2o39b2o36b2o
15bob2o$151b2o89b2o5b2o76bobo12b3o2bo$152bo30bo21b2o35b2o66bo16bo13bo
5bo$149b3o29b3o21bo102b3o15b2o14b5o$149bo30bo25b3o98bo36bo$180b2o26bo
35b2o17b2o29b2o11b2o11bo$244b2o17bo30b2o24b3o$148b2ob2o2b2o81b2o21bobo
59bo$147bobobo2bobo20b2o59b2o21b2o59b2o$147bobo2b2o22bo2bo157b2o$148bo
bobo24b2o158bo$149bo2bo2bo178b2obo$150b3obobo176bo2bo$153bobo178b2o$
150b2o2bo15b2o97b2o48b2o$148b3ob2o16bo98b2o11b2o35b2o$147bo23b3o108bo$
148b3ob2o19bo109b3o$150bob2o131bo$306b2o3bo$160b2o144bo3bobo$160b2o7b
2o122b2o12bo3bobo$169bo105b2o15bobo13bo3bobob2o$167bobo105bobo14bo13bo
b4o2bob2o$167b2o107bo14b2o12bobo3bobo$305bobo2bo2b2ob2o$306bo3b2o2bobo
$314bobo10b2o$147b2o166bo11b2o$147b2o2$233b2o$233b2o43bo$259b2o16bobo$
163bo95b2o16bobo$162bobo113bo$162bobo73b2o$163bo74b2o$164b3o67b2o$166b
o67b2o3$240b2o$240b2o18$9bo$9b3o$12bo$11b2o3$2ob2o$2obo$3bo$3b3o4b2o$b
2o3bo3b2o$o2b4o$2obo15b2o$bo2b3o12bobo$bo5bo13bo$2b5o14b2o$4bo15$161b
2o$161b2o5b2o$168b2o3$137b2o27b2o$137b2o27b2o$172b2o$172b2o$131b2o$
131b2o$135b2o$135b2o4$130b2o$130b2o9$163b2o$163b2o$137b2o$138bo$135b3o
$135bo3$125b2o$126bo$126bobo15b2o$127b2o15b2o2$271b2o$271b2o2$152b2o$
152bobo$153bo9b2o$162bo2bo$163b2o3$145b2o$145bobo$147bo$147b2o5$129b2o
$128bobo23bo$128bo23b3o$127b2o22bo$135b2o14b2o$135b2o7$254b3o$254b3o$
255bo$154b2o97b2o$149b2o2bo2bo96bo$134b2o13bobo2b2o82b2o14bo$133bobo
16b2o84b2o$133bo19bo$132b2o16bo2bob2o$149bobob2obo98b2o$150bobo102b2o
10bo$151bo2b2o99bo4bo3bo2bobo2bo$152b2ob3o81bo15bo4b5ob2o4bo$158bo71b
2o5b2o15bobo4bobo4bo3bo$152b2ob3o72b2o6bobo16bo$152b2obo81bo2bo11b2o2b
o11b3o$237bob2o10bo3bo13bo$144b2o91bobo12b2o$135b2o7b2o91bobo13bo$136b
o100b3o17b2o$136bobo98b3o17b2o7b2o$137b2o127b2o$239bobo2bo31b3o$134bo
103bo6bo30b3o$132b3o103bo5bo32bo$131bo25b2o84bo31b2o$131b2o24b2o116bo$
276bo4$142bo134b2o$141bobo133b2o$121b2o18bobo133bo$120bobo5b2o12bo134b
o$120bo7b2o9b3o134bobo$119b2o18bo139bo$261b2o11b2o2bo$133bo126bo2bo9bo
3bo$129b2obobo125bo13b2o$128bobobobo125bo2bo11bo$125bo2bobobob2o125b4o
$125b4ob2o2bo129bo$129bo4bo129bo$125b2o2bob3o$125b2o3b2o2$272b2o$272b
2o!

I used MWSSes to reconstruct the block, and it worked out well: One MWSS can catalyze the other MWSS into a block. I used MWSSes simply because they were orthogonal, and so would work better with a diagonal spaceship. Gliders would awkwardly travel in the same direction as a Cordership, and the only perpendicular directions are either taken by the initial glider, or would require crossing the Cordership's lane. MWSSes were the best solution here, especially since we already have a simple G-to-MWSS.

[Scorbie]

Why does Golly not build when I have something to say
@Kazyan
Perhaps these could be used then:

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x = 13, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
$5bobobo$3b3ob2obo$2bo7bo$2bob2ob3o$3bobobo4$4b2obo2bo$4b2ob4o2$2b4ob
2o$2bo2bob2o!

Drop the latter whenever you don't feel like it.

[MathAndCode]

Here are my ideas for which objects to look for converters for:

• From the century:

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  x = 4, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
  obo$2b2o$obo$2o!

• From the ∏-heptomino:

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  x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
  3bo$o2bo$o2b2o$b3o$2bo!

• From the loafer:

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  x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
  3bo$b3o$o$bo$2b2o!

• From the E-heptomino:

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  x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
  6bo$7bo$4bobo$2bo4bo$ob2o2bo$3bo2bo$4bo!

Which should I look into first?

[wwei23]

Which should I look into first?

Whichever one you want.

Unrelated, but if I remember correctly, I saw something like a Herschel-to-queen bee converter in Gustavo's patterns thread (which if I remember correctly, works without needing to be stabilized), though I'm pretty sure it would be hard to find the post again, since Gustavo didn't mention a queen bee, making it impossible to just search "queen bee".

[Jormungant]

If you pick that century, just a little warning that it is something that is in 2 instances hidden within a well defined circuit. I did notice that it is related to the I-heptomino, and found the following links.

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x = 397, y = 663, rule = LifeHistory
83$208.34D$206.38D$206.38D$205.40D$205.40D$86.33D86.40D$84.39D82.40D$
84.41D81.38D$83.44D79.38D48.2BDB$83.45D80.34D49.3B2DB$83.46D91.10D61.
4B3D3B$83.47D90.10D60.7BD2B$84.47D89.10D60.12B$84.48D27.6D55.10D60.
12B$86.46D26.9D53.10D61.10B2A3.A$91.11D14.17D24.12D51.10D59.12B2A2.A.
A$91.11D17.14D24.13D50.10D58.12B.B3.A.A$91.11D19.13D23.15D48.10D46.2A
7.B3.11B4.2A.3A$91.11D20.12D23.17D46.10D47.A5.4B2.12B4.B4.A$91.11D21.
11D23.19D44.10D47.A.AB.5B.12B3.B2AB3A$91.11D21.11D23.21D42.10D48.2AB.
18B3.B2A.A$91.11D21.11D25.20D41.10D50.26B$91.11D21.12D25.21D39.10D49.
25B$91.11D21.12D27.21D37.10D49.27B$91.11D21.11D30.21D35.10D49.27B$91.
11D21.11D32.20D34.10D48.28B$91.11D20.12D9.45D32.10D47.29B$91.11D19.
13D9.47D30.10D47.29B$91.11D18.13D10.49D28.10D47.28B$91.11D16.15D10.
50D27.10D48.26B$91.11D13.18D10.52D25.10D50.B3D19B$91.41D11.54D23.10D
50.3BD14B$91.40D12.52D25.10D50.B3D15B$91.39D13.50D27.10D49.14B2.5B$
91.38D14.49D28.10D48.11B8.4B$91.37D15.47D30.10D48.12B.2B.3B.4B$91.36D
40.21D32.10D49.30B2.B$91.34D40.21D34.10D49.13B2A11BD7B$91.32D41.21D
35.10D50.7B2D3B2A9B3D7B$91.30D41.21D37.10D52.6BD14BDBD9B$91.27D42.21D
39.10D50.6B2D15BD11B$91.11D57.20D41.10D50.2A.3BD7B2.2B2.14BAB$91.11D
55.20D43.10D51.A2.9B10.10BABA$91.11D55.19D44.10D48.3A3.9B12.8BABA$91.
11D55.17D46.10D48.A4.8B15.8BA$91.11D55.15D34.38D38.2AB.4B15.10B$91.
11D55.13D35.40D36.A.AB.2B2AB14.9B$91.11D55.12D35.42D35.A6.2A15.8B$91.
11D56.9D37.42D34.2A24.7B$91.11D57.6D38.44D60.5B$86.29D88.44D61.2B$84.
33D87.42D$84.34D86.42D$83.35D87.40D$83.35D89.36D$83.35D$83.35D$84.34D
$84.33D$86.29D30$276.78D30$208.34D$206.38D$206.38D$205.40D$205.40D$
86.35D84.40D$85.40D80.40D$84.43D79.38D$83.45D78.38D$83.47D78.34D$83.
48D89.10D$83.49D88.10D$84.48D88.10D$85.48D26.6D55.10D$86.48D24.9D53.
10D$91.11D17.15D23.12D51.10D$91.11D19.13D23.13D50.10D$91.11D21.12D22.
15D48.10D$91.11D21.12D22.17D46.10D$91.11D22.11D22.19D44.10D$91.11D22.
11D22.21D42.10D62.D3B$91.11D21.12D24.20D41.10D60.2B2D2B$91.11D21.11D
26.21D39.10D60.3B3D$91.11D19.13D28.21D37.10D50.7B.7BD2B$91.11D18.14D
30.21D35.10D50.19B$91.11D15.16D33.20D34.10D48.D20B$91.42D10.45D32.10D
48.BD18B$91.41D11.47D30.10D47.2B2D17B$91.40D12.49D28.10D46.2B2D2B2A
13B2A$91.39D13.50D27.10D46.2BD3B2A13B2A$91.40D12.52D25.10D48.18B$91.
42D10.54D23.10D48.10B2.5B$91.43D9.52D25.10D49.6B5.7B$91.44D8.50D27.
10D50.3B8.B3.2A$91.45D7.49D28.10D50.B14.A$91.45D7.47D30.10D49.2A15.3A
$91.11D17.18D30.21D32.10D49.A18.A$91.11D20.16D27.21D34.10D50.A$91.11D
22.14D26.21D35.10D49.2A$91.11D23.13D24.21D37.10D$91.11D24.13D21.21D
39.10D$91.11D25.12D20.20D41.10D$91.11D26.11D18.20D43.10D$91.11D26.11D
18.19D44.10D$91.11D26.11D18.17D46.10D$91.11D26.11D18.15D34.38D$91.11D
26.11D18.13D35.40D$91.11D25.12D18.12D35.42D$91.11D24.13D19.9D37.42D$
91.11D21.15D21.6D38.44D$86.52D65.44D$85.53D66.42D$84.53D67.42D$83.53D
69.40D$83.53D71.36D$83.51D$83.50D$84.47D$85.44D$86.40D30$276.78D30$
79.34D$77.38D$77.38D$76.40D$76.40D$76.40D81.48D$76.40D79.50D$77.38D
79.51D$77.38D79.51D$79.34D81.51D$91.10D93.51D$91.10D93.51D$91.10D93.
51D$91.10D49.6D39.50D31.B33.A$91.10D48.9D39.48D31.2B30.3A$91.10D47.
12D42.11D21.11D31.3B24.2A2.A$91.10D47.13D41.11D21.11D31.4B23.A.A2.A$
91.10D47.15D39.11D21.11D32.4B6.6B.B9.B.2A2.A2.2A$91.10D47.17D37.11D
21.11D33.4B4.10B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.A.A$91.10D47.19D35.11D9.6D6.11D34.4B3.
15B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$91.10D47.21D33.11D8.9D4.11D35.4B.18BA.A.A5.2B7.A$
91.10D49.20D32.11D7.10D4.11D36.22B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$91.10D50.21D30.11D
7.11D3.11D37.4B.15B9.7B.B2A$91.10D52.21D28.11D7.11D3.11D37.20B8.10B$
91.10D54.21D26.11D7.11D4.9D38.22B4.12B$91.10D56.20D25.11D7.11D4.9D37.
23B.15B$91.10D33.45D23.29D6.6D38.27BD12B$91.10D33.47D21.29D49.28BDBD
11B$91.10D33.49D19.29D49.28B3D12B$91.10D33.50D18.29D48.31BD11B$91.10D
33.52D16.29D47.43B$91.10D33.54D14.29D47.14BD15B3.B2.6B$91.10D33.52D
16.29D46.14B2D13B9.3B$91.10D33.50D18.29D45.13B3D7B2.4B10.3B$91.10D33.
49D19.29D45.13BD14B12.B$91.10D33.47D21.29D45.18B5.2A2B$91.10D57.21D
23.11D7.11D46.16B6.A2B$91.10D55.21D25.11D7.11D46.12B11.3A$91.10D54.
21D26.11D7.11D8.6D33.11B13.A$91.10D52.21D28.11D7.11D6.9D33.10B$91.10D
50.21D30.11D7.10D7.9D33.7BD2B$91.10D49.20D32.11D8.9D6.11D33.4BDBD2B$
91.10D47.20D34.11D9.6D8.11D34.3B3DB$91.10D47.19D35.11D23.11D33.5BDB$
91.10D47.17D37.11D23.11D33.7B$77.38D33.15D39.11D23.11D35.3B$76.40D32.
13D41.11D23.11D$75.42D31.12D42.11D23.11D$75.42D32.9D44.11D23.11D$74.
44D32.6D46.11D23.11D$74.44D79.50D$75.42D78.52D$75.42D77.53D$76.40D78.
53D$78.36D80.53D$194.53D$194.53D$194.53D$195.52D$197.50D30$276.78D30$
76.34D$74.38D$74.38D$73.40D$73.40D100.13D$73.40D96.20D6.6D$73.40D94.
25D2.8D$74.38D93.37D$74.38D91.40D$76.34D92.41D$88.10D102.43D$88.10D
101.44D$88.10D100.45D$88.10D49.6D44.46D$88.10D48.9D42.18D10.18D$88.
10D47.12D39.16D16.15D$88.10D47.13D37.15D20.13D$88.10D47.15D35.14D22.
12D$88.10D47.17D32.14D24.11D52.B$88.10D47.19D30.13D25.11D51.2B$88.10D
47.21D27.13D26.11D50.3B$88.10D49.20D26.12D28.9D50.4B$88.10D50.21D23.
13D28.9D49.4B$88.10D52.21D21.12D31.6D38.A10.4B$88.10D54.21D19.12D74.A
.A8.4B$88.10D56.20D18.11D75.A.A7.4B$88.10D33.45D16.11D74.2A.2A5.4B$
88.10D33.47D13.12D74.A2.B5.4B$88.10D33.49D11.12D75.AB2AB2.4B$88.10D
33.50D10.12D73.A.A.2AB.4B$88.10D33.52D8.11D74.2A4.5B$88.10D33.54D6.
11D79.6B$88.10D33.52D8.11D17.26D36.6B$88.10D33.50D10.11D15.29D34.10B$
88.10D33.49D11.11D14.31D32.10B2A$88.10D33.47D13.11D14.31D33.9B2A$88.
10D57.21D15.11D14.31D32.6BD4B$88.10D55.21D17.12D13.31D32.5B2D4B$88.
10D54.21D18.12D13.31D32.3B3DB.B$88.10D52.21D20.12D13.31D33.2BD2B$88.
10D50.21D23.11D14.29D35.4B$88.10D49.20D25.11D16.26D38.B$88.10D47.20D
27.11D29.11D$88.10D47.19D28.12D28.11D$88.10D47.17D31.11D28.11D$74.38D
33.15D33.12D27.11D$73.40D32.13D35.13D26.11D$72.42D31.12D37.13D25.11D$
72.42D32.9D39.15D23.11D$71.44D32.6D42.16D19.13D$71.44D80.20D11.17D$
72.42D82.47D$72.42D83.46D$73.40D85.45D$75.36D88.44D$200.42D$201.39D$
203.35D$206.30D$209.24D$214.14D30$276.78D30$73.34D$71.38D$71.38D$70.
40D$70.40D$70.40D81.33D$70.40D79.38D$71.38D79.42D$71.38D79.43D$73.34D
81.45D$85.10D93.46D$85.10D93.47D$85.10D93.48D$85.10D49.6D39.47D$85.
10D48.9D39.46D$85.10D47.12D42.11D14.17D$85.10D47.13D41.11D17.14D$85.
10D47.15D39.11D18.13D$85.10D47.17D37.11D19.13D$85.10D47.19D35.11D20.
12D41.6B$85.10D47.21D33.11D21.11D40.11B$85.10D49.20D32.11D21.11D40.
12B.B$85.10D50.21D30.11D21.11D39.12B.B2A$85.10D52.21D28.11D21.11D38.
15B2A$85.10D54.21D26.11D20.12D37.14B.2B$85.10D56.20D25.11D19.13D37.
14B$85.10D33.45D23.11D18.13D38.14B$85.10D33.47D21.11D16.15D40.13B$85.
10D33.49D19.11D14.16D42.13B$85.10D33.50D18.11D11.19D41.B2D11B$85.10D
33.52D16.40D42.2D11B$85.10D33.54D14.39D42.2BD12B$85.10D33.52D16.38D
43.16B$85.10D33.50D18.37D44.8BD7B$85.10D33.49D19.36D47.5B2D5B$85.10D
33.47D21.35D48.3B3D4B$85.10D57.21D23.33D51.2BD7B$85.10D55.21D25.33D
52.6B$85.10D54.21D26.34D53.3B$85.10D52.21D28.35D$85.10D50.21D30.11D9.
16D$85.10D49.20D32.11D11.15D$85.10D47.20D34.11D12.15D$85.10D47.19D35.
11D13.15D$85.10D47.17D37.11D14.15D$71.38D33.15D39.11D15.15D$70.40D32.
13D41.11D16.15D$69.42D31.12D42.11D17.15D$69.42D32.9D44.11D18.14D$68.
44D32.6D46.11D19.14D$68.44D79.23D13.17D$69.42D78.26D13.18D$69.42D77.
28D13.18D$70.40D78.29D12.18D$72.36D80.29D13.17D$188.29D14.16D$188.29D
15.15D$188.28D16.15D$189.26D18.13D$191.23D20.10D!

Still, this is not sufficient to split the tracks and add "I" or "century" in the reference (that I-to-E does not link to anything too), so the short message is that there is a century to R and to G already defined.

[EvinZL]

Unrelated, but if I remember correctly, I saw something like a Herschel-to-queen bee converter in Gustavo's patterns thread (which if I remember correctly, works without needing to be stabilized), though I'm pretty sure it would be hard to find the post again, since Gustavo didn't mention a queen bee, making it impossible to just search "queen bee".

There's this:

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x = 39, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A6.A$7.A6.B2AB5.3A$7.3A5.3B8.A$10.A3.B.B8.2A$9.2A2.6B6.7B$9.10B6.
8B$.2A8.11B2.10B$2.A8.22B$2.A.AB6.20B2.BD$3.2AB.3B2.23B2D$5.21B3D7B2D
$5.23BD7B3D$6.20B3D7B2D$5.30B2D$3.21B.7B2.BD$.19B6.5B$.2BC15B8.4B$3BC
BC4B.7B7.5B$.2B3C4B2.6B7.2A$5BC4B3.6B7.A$9B6.4B4.3A$2B12.B2A2B4.A$B
14.2A.B2A$18.BA.A$21.A$21.2A!

[wwei23]

There's this:

Nope, not that one.

[MathAndCode]

If you pick that century, just a little warning that it is something that is in 2 instances hidden within a well defined circuit. I did notice that it is related to the I-heptomino, and found the following links.

Thank you for informing me about that. I'll make a trivial century to I converter then look for converters accepting E−B.



Edit: This works except for the block being put back in the wrong place.

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x = 22, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.2A4$15.2A$13.3A$14.A4$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!

Also, this almost forms the region from the loafer.

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x = 22, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A10.2A$2.2A8.3A$13.A6$18.D$18.3D$21.D$20.D$18.2D!
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[wwei23]

Edit: This works except for the block being put back in the wrong place.

I realized that an Eater 3 catalyst can survive the interaction, but...

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x = 23, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$7.A.A$8.A2$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A$.A2.A.2A$A.A.A$.A2.A$4.2A$16.2A$14.
3A$15.A4$3.2A$2.A.A$2.A$.2A19.D$20.3D$19.2D$19.D!

EDIT: I managed to stabilize it, but now there are two blocks!

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x = 22, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A2.2D$2.2A2.2D4$15.2A.2D$13.3A2.2D$14.A4$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D
$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!

A ship on its own can change the position of one of the blocks, with no need for the eater.

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.A.A$5.2A$2A$.A6.2D$.A.A4.2D$2.2A4$15.2A.2D$13.3A2.2D$14.A4$2.
2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!

This gives us what I believe to be a new catalysis, since it wasn't in Gustavo's or EvinZL's cheat sheets.

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
2A$A.A$.2A2$3.A$3.3A$3.4A$6.A!

[MathAndCode]

Edit: This works except for the block being put back in the wrong place.

I realized that an Eater 3 catalyst can survive the interaction, but...

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x = 23, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$7.A.A$8.A2$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A$.A2.A.2A$A.A.A$.A2.A$4.2A$16.2A$14.
3A$15.A4$3.2A$2.A.A$2.A$.2A19.D$20.3D$19.2D$19.D!

EDIT: I managed to stabilize it, but now there are two blocks!

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x = 22, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A2.2D$2.2A2.2D4$15.2A.2D$13.3A2.2D$14.A4$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D
$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!

A ship on its own can change the position of one of the blocks, with no need for the eater.

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A$4.A.A$5.2A$2A$.A6.2D$.A.A4.2D$2.2A4$15.2A.2D$13.3A2.2D$14.A4$2.
2A$.A.A$.A$2A19.D$19.3D$18.2D$18.D!

Thank you. However, the reaction envelope that makes the rightward block doesn't extend past the prior reaction envelope, so besides staged recovery, our only hope of getting rid of it is modifying the reaction in the upper-left to delete the rightward block.



Edit: Can anyone isolate this R?

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
16.A$4.B10.A.A$2.4B9.A.A$.4B2DB6.2A.3A$.5B2D12.A$6BD2B5.2A.3A$6BA2B5.2A.A$7BAB$4BABAB$2BA4BA$AB2A2BA$.2BA2BA$.3BAB!
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[wwei23]

Thank you. However, the reaction envelope that makes the rightward block doesn't extend past the prior reaction envelope, so besides staged recovery, our only hope of getting rid of it is modifying the reaction in the upper-left to delete the rightward block.

Ah-hah! You are so brilliant! (I just place catalysts where they fir and hope it works out, which is nothing compared to what you do.)

I THINK WE HAVE A NEW CONVERTER OUTPUT!!!

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x=0,y=0,rule=LifeHistory
..A$..3A$5.A$4.AA7$15.AA$13.3A$14.A4$..AA$.A.A$.A$AA!

That was a really lucky hit. What are the chances that it just happens to clean itself up like that?
EDIT: I found Guatavo's catalyst cheat sheet!

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x = 170, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
15.5D.6D.6D4.5D$15.5D.6D.6D4.5D$15.2D4.2D2.2D3.2D6.2D$15.2D4.6D3.2D6.
5D$15.2D4.6D3.2D6.5D$15.2D4.2D2.2D3.2D9.2D$15.5D.2D2.2D3.2D3.2D.5D$
15.5D.2D2.2D3.2D3.2D.5D5$97.D20.D7.5D11.D$97.D20.D7.D15.D23.3D$97.D
20.D7.D13.5D20.D3.D$32.A26.2D18.D6.3D4.2D2.D10.D5.D2.D8.D7.3D5.D4.3D
2.D16.D$22.A8.A6.A7.D6.3D2.D2.D17.D.3D.D3.D2.D2.D.D10.D5.D2.D8.3D4.D
3.D4.D3.D3.D.D.2D12.D$5.3D2.D9.A9.A7.A6.2D6.D7.D3.D.2D10.2D4.D3.D2.D
2.D.D10.D2.D2.D2.D8.D10.D4.D3.D3.D.2D13.D$5.D3.2D9.2A8.2A6.A5.7D2.D5.
3D3.2D2.D9.D5.4D3.3D2.D10.D2.D2.D.D9.D7.4D4.D3.4D2.D13.D$5.3D2.D6.EC
8.EC6.EC2.2A4.2D6.D4.D2.D3.D3.D9.D5.D6.D4.D11.D.D.D2.D9.D6.D3.D4.D3.D
5.D12.D$5.D4.D5.E.E7.E.E5.E.E9.D6.3D3.2D.2D.D3.D9.D6.3D3.D4.D.D10.D.D
3.D9.5D3.3D.D3.D4.3D2.D12.5D$5.3D.3D4.E9.E7.E57.D$15.2E8.2E6.2E57.D$
92.D3$16.A.2A$4.3D5.D4.2A$5.D2.D.D.D$5.D2.D.D.2D2.C$5.D2.3D.2D.E.E$
16.E3$15.2A.A$16.2A$3D7.3D$.D9.D4.C$.D2.D.D.D2.D3.E.E$.D2.D.D.D2.D4.E
.E$.D3.D.D3.D6.E$18.2E4$26.A$26.2A$5.3D2.2D11.2C$5.D3.D2.D5.2E2.C2.C$
5.3D3.2D5.E4.C.C$5.D3.D2.D2.2E.E5.C$5.3D2.2D4.E.E.2E$15.E2.E2.E$15.2E
2.E4.E$20.5E2$19.E.2E$19.2E.E!

[MathAndCode]

Ah-hah! You are so brilliant! (I just place catalysts where they fir and hope it works out, which is nothing compared to what you do.)

I place catalysts where I think that they'll work (This limits me to placing fishhooks, Eater 2s, and Eater 3s.), and if I see a common methuselah or a pattern resembling one, then I'll try to isolate it.

I THINK WE HAVE A NEW CONVERTER OUTPUT!!!

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x=0,y=0,rule=LifeHistory
..A$..3A$5.A$4.AA7$15.AA$13.3A$14.A4$..AA$.A.A$.A$AA!

Nice. I knew that a C→I would be possible.

That was a really lucky hit. What are the chances that it just happens to clean itself up like that?

Non-zero, which is why it's always worth trying.

Also, this can probably be made into an E−B→B by someone with better knowledge of catalysts than me.

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
9.B4.D$7.4B3.2D$6.7B2.2D$3.2B.7B2.D6.2A$14BD7.A$11BA2B6.A.A$12BAB6.2A$9BABAB$7BA4BA$2B2.BAB2A2BA$6.2BA2BA$6.3BAB$B6.3B$B.2A3.3B$B2.A4.B$3A$A$18.2A$17.A2.A2.2A$17.A.A4.A2.A$18.A5.A.A.A$21.2A.A2.A$21.A2.A$18.A4.A$18.5A2$20.A$19.A.A$20.A!
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I think that the eater 3 can be replaced with a fishhook.



Edit: Yes, it can be replaced by a fishhook.

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x = 24, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
9.B4.D$7.4B3.2D$6.7B2.2D$3.2B.7B2.D6.2A$14BD7.A$11BA2B6.A.A$12BAB6.2A$9BABAB$7BA4BA$2B2.BAB2A2BA$6.2BA2BA$6.3BAB$B6.3B$B.2A3.3B$B2.A4.B$3A$A3$12.2A$13.A$10.3A$10.A!
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[wwei23]

Non-zero, which is why it's always worth trying.

I'm saying this because it seems to be extremely rare for things to work out like that.

[MathAndCode]

I'm saying this because it seems to be extremely rare for things to work out like that.

Each individual case has a low probability, but there are enough possibilities that there's a good chance that at least one works.



Edit: Here's a partial E−H→B.

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x = 31, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
4.D$3.3D$2.2D2.D8$11.B$9.4B$8.7B$2B3.2B.7B9.2A$16B8.A$13BA2B6.A.A$4B2A8BAB6.2A$4B2A5BABAB$9BA4BA$.3B2.BAB2A2BA$B7.2BA2BA$2B6.3BAB$3B6.3B$3B6.3B$.B2A6.B$3.A$3A$A19.2A$9.2A8.A2.A2.2A$10.A8.A.A4.A2.A$7.3A10.A5.A.A.A$7.A15.2A.A2.A$23.A2.A$20.A4.A$20.5A2$22.A$21.A.A$22.A!#C [[ T 93 PAUSE 1 ]]

Another edit: Here's a complete E−H→R.

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x = 35, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
9.D2.7B$2B2.2B2.3D.7B9.2A$8BD11B8.A$17BA2B6.A.A$8B2A8BAB6.2A$8B2A5BABAB$13BA4BA$4B.3B2.BAB2A2BA$.4B7.2BA2BA$2.4B6.3BAB$2.2A3B6.3B$.A.A3B6.3B$.A3.B8.B$2A2$24.2A$12.2A9.A2.A2.2A$13.A9.A.A4.A2.A$10.3A11.A5.A.A.A$10.A16.2A.A2.A$27.A2.A$24.A4.A$24.5A2$26.A$25.A.A$26.A!
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Yet another edit: Here's an R−H→2∏.

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
15.A$A12.3A$3A9.A$3.A8.2A$2.2A2$9.3A$11.A$2A5.A2.A$2A6.2A$6.A.A$7.A$7.A2$2.D.D15.3D$2.D.D15.D.D$2.3D15.D.D!

[wwei23]

If only the ship could be restored!

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$11.3A$2A8.A$A.A7.2A$.2A9$7.A$6.3A4.2A$8.A4.2A!

I've spent tons of times searching for ANYTHING remotely useful, and this, as well as this blinker factory, is the best I've got so far.

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$11.3A$10.A$10.2A9$2A$2A5.A$6.3A4.2A$8.A4.2A!

[MathAndCode]

I've spent tons of times searching for ANYTHING remotely useful, and this, as well as this blinker factory, is the best I've got so far.

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$11.3A$10.A$10.2A9$2A$2A5.A$6.3A4.2A$8.A4.2A!

Your two block reaction is actually very useful. Here's one example.

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x = 15, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
13.A$11.3A$10.A$10.2A8$3.2D$4.2D$4.D5$2A$2A5.C$6.3C4.2A$8.C4.2A!

I think that it is possible to get at least two more conduits/convertors out of this.



Edit: Here's a messy R conduit that I've having difficulty cleaning up.

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x = 19, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
12.D$11.3D$A12.D$3A$3.A$2.2A8$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A3$4.2A$4.2A5.C$10.3C4.2A$12.C4.2A!

[wwei23]

Your two block reaction is actually very useful.

Thanks! It's technically a one-block reaction. The block on the right is catalytic all by itself. The other block was added when searching for conduits.
Also, nice find!

[MathAndCode]

Your two block reaction is actually very useful.

Thanks! It's technically a one-block reaction. The block on the right is catalytic all by itself. The other block was added when searching for conduits.
Also, nice find!

Thank you. I'll keep looking for more.



Edit: Here's another messy R conduit.

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x = 19, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.3A$10.A$9.2A4$A$3A$3.A$2.2A10.D$13.3D$15.D6$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A3$4.2A$4.2A5.C$10.3C4.2A$12.C4.2A!
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Why are ConwayLife conduits Herschel-centric instead of R-centric? In trying to make conduits, I've seen the R-sequence pop up at least three times as often as a B-heptomino or Herschel that wasn't spawned by an R-sequence.



Another edit: Incomplete R→B

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x = 24, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
13.D$12.3D$11.D2.2D4$22.2A$2.2A18.A$3.A16.A.A$3.A.A14.2A$4.2A4$A$3A$3.A$2.2A8$2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A3$4.2A$4.2A5.C$10.3C4.2A$12.C4.2A!
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I will probably look for conduits that are dependent on alternative formations of the input next.



Yet another edit: I just realized that the bottleneck at generation 173 is the bottom part of a loafer.

[Jormungant]

that's great, that C-to-I looks very much new, it seems the default requirement for a conduit to be listed is met (repeat time of 300) so the following works with repeat time 169:

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x = 143, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
11$108.2A$52.2A54.A.A$51.B2AB11.2A.A.2A36.AB$52.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A
34.2B$51.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A13.A17.5B$51.5B8.B2.5A.A12.3A16.7B$51.6B
6.2ABA4.A13.A18.8B3.BA$51.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A18.8B.BA.A$52.13B2.A.A3.A
9.4B19.10BA$50.13B5.A3.2A8.3B20.9B.B$49.15B18.4B18.9B$49.15B17.5B18.
9B$48.17B.B2.B11.6B18.8B$48.29B2.8B16.11B$47.9B2C2B2A11BD14B11.16B$
46.9BCBC2B2A9B3D13B11.17B$45.2AB3.6BC13BDBD4B.7B12.17B$44.A2.A4.19BD
15B12.17B.B$43.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.19B2A$43.A7.6B14.17B8.19B.B2A$
42.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.21B3.B$49.4B4.2A15.22BD15B$48.4B5.A16.8B.13BDBD
14B$47.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D13B$46.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD4B2.7B.3B.
B$45.4B24.A10.14B.3B2.15B$45.3B22.3A12.B.3B.4B9.15B$46.B23.A20.3B8.
19B10.A$89.4B9.19B8.3A$89.2A11.19B7.A$90.A10.20B7.2A$87.3A11.21B$87.A
6.B3.27B.4B$93.2AB.34B$93.2A36B$94.2B.33B$97.31B$98.19B2D7B$102.15BD
2BD4B$105.13BD.D.B$106.B3.3B3.B.3D$108.5B16.B$108.2A19.B$109.A19.B2A$
106.3A20.BA.A$106.A25.A$110.2BD2B17.2A$110.2B3D2.B$110.4B2D4B$110.5BD
4B$110.9B2A$109.10B2A$110.10B$111.6B$111.6B$106.2A4.5B$14.C91.A.A.2AB
.4B$14.2C92.AB2AB2.4B$13.C.C91.A2.B5.4B$107.2A.2A5.4B$108.A.A7.4B$
108.A.A8.4B$109.A10.4B$121.4B$122.4B$123.3B$124.2B$125.B!

[MathAndCode]

I will probably look for conduits that are dependent on alternative formations of the input next.

B*+block→C*, C*+block→W in one:

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x = 12, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
2A$2A$3.2D$3.2D5.2A$4.DCA2.A$4.DCA.2A$9.A$10.A2$3.2A$4.A$.3A$.A!#C [[ T 14 PAUSE 1 ]] #C [[ T 20 PAUSE 1 ]]

I'm going to look for more of these because they seem likely to be useful but not previously searched.

[wwei23]

Can anything else be done with this catalytic block reaction? I wasn't able to come up with anything else no matter where I put my blocks and eater 1s (and eater 3s, snakes, and boats).
EDIT: I might just need to search deeper. I assumed that the affected junk would have to be catalyzed for anything new to pop up, because the differences don't propagate to the B-heptomino before a pi starts forming in a location unreachable by catalysts and that would destroy the block. Right now, I want you to guess how long it'll take, without, well I don't want to spoil the explanation. But the difference is real, and what I missed, MathAndCode saw. At generation 22, the change is very subtle, dictated purely by the absence or presence of a single blinker.

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x = 71, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
6.A59.A$5.3A57.3A$4.2A2BA55.2A2BA$3.AB4A54.AB4A$3.ABA4B53.ABA4B$3.3A
4B53.3A4B$4.7B53.7B$.2A.2A4B51.2A.2A4B$.5A5B50.5A4B$A2B2AC5BA48.A2B2A
CB3A$2A2B3D5BA47.2A2B3D3B$.2A3BD2B.2BA48.2A3BD2B$2.6B3.A50.6B!

Step four generations forwards, and MathAndCode's catalysts have succeeded in amplifying the change caused by the block.

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x = 57, y = 59, rule = LifeHistory
7.A39.A$6.3A37.3A$5.2A2BA35.2A2BA$5.B5A34.B5A$5.B5A34.B5A$3.3B2AB2A
32.3B2AB2A$3.B2ABABAB32.B2ABABAB$4.5A2B33.5A2B$3.A.ABA4B31.A.A6B$.ABA
.2BA3B30.ABA.6B$BAB3ABA4B28.BAB3A3BAB$5BADA5B27.5BAD2B2A$5BDCD4B2A26.
5B3DA2B$BA5BD2B.B2A26.BA5BD2B$.A7B3.B28.A7B16$7.A39.A$7.3A37.3A$10.A
39.A$9.2A38.2A4$A39.A$3A37.3A$3.A39.A$2.2A10.D27.2A10.D$13.3D37.3D$
15.D39.D2$12.A39.A$11.3A37.3A$10.2A2BA35.2A2BA$10.B5A34.B5A$2.2A6.B5A
26.2A6.B5A$.A.A4.4BAB2A25.A.A4.4BAB2A$.A6.B2ABABAB25.A6.B2ABABAB$2A6.
BA2B2A2B24.2A6.BA2B2A2B$5.3B.A2BA4B28.3B.A7B$5.4B.3A3B29.4B.A5B$4.2A
4BA6B27.2A8BAB$4.2A5BCA5B26.2A4BAD2B2A$5.B.3B3D4B2A26.B.3BDCDA2B$7.5B
D2B.B2A28.5BD2B$8.6B3.B30.6B!

Another six generations, and the change has propagated to the B-heptomino (I removed the other catalytic block (The one that doesn't get turned into a beehive for a while) because the change was so great that it's now going to start wrecking catalysts without the presence of the catalytic block.):

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x = 57, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
7.A39.A$6.3A37.3A$5.A2B2A35.A2B2A$5.A3BA35.A3BA$5.B2ABA35.B2ABA$5.3B
2AB34.3B2AB$5.6B34.6B$5.7B33.7B$3.8B32.8B$3.8B32.8B$2.9B31.7BAB$2.4B
2A4B30.2B3AB3AB$.2BABABA3B30.6BA3B$2B2A8B28.4B2ABA4B$3BABAC6B27.6BDA
4B$4BAC2D4B2A26.5B2DCAB2A$4B3AD2B.B2A26.7BD2A$.8B3.B28.8B16$7.A39.A$
7.3A37.3A$10.A39.A$9.2A38.2A4$A39.A$3A37.3A$3.A39.A$2.2A10.D27.2A10.D
$12.A3D36.A3D$11.3A.D35.3A.D$10.A2B2A35.A2B2A$10.A3BA35.A3BA$10.B2ABA
35.B2ABA$10.BAB2AB34.BAB2AB$10.A5B34.6B$2.2A5.ABA5B25.2A5.B2A5B$.A.A
4.2AB2A3B25.A.A3.2ABA3BAB$.A5.2AB2A4B25.A4.A6BABA$2A5.2A2B2A3B24.2A4.
A5BABAB$5.2BA2BA6B28.B3A2BABA3B$5.3BA7B29.5BA5B$6.11B29.4BA5B$6.5BD6B
28.5BC3BA$5.B.3B3D4B2A28.3B2DC2BA$7.5BD2B.B2A28.5BD2A$8.6B3.B30.6B!

It's worth noting how much tamer the version with the catalytic block is. Another 8 generations, and the change starts to affect the main engine of the B-heptomino.

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x = 57, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
7.A39.A$6.3A37.3A$5.A2B2A35.A2B2A$5.2AB2A35.2AB2A$4.3A3B34.3A3B$5.2AB
A2B34.2ABA2B$5.BA2BAB34.BA2BAB$5.BA4B34.BA4B$5.2BABAB34.2BABAB$5.3BA
3B33.3BA3B$3.8B32.8B$3.8B32.8B$2.2B3A4B31.9B$2.A4BA4B30.10B$.BA4BA3B
30.5B2A3B$2BA9B28.5B3A4B$3B3AC6B27.6BCA4B$2BA2B2DC4B2A26.5B3DBA2B$3BA
2BAD2B.B2A26.7BDB3A$.2BA2BA2B3.B28.10B16$7.A39.A$7.3A37.3A$10.A39.A$
9.2A38.2A4$A39.A$3A37.3A$3.A8.A30.A8.A$2.2A7.3AD27.2A7.3AD$10.A2B2CD
34.A2B2CD$10.3B2AD34.3B2AD$9.ABA3B34.2A4B$8.3A5B33.ABA4B$8.2A6B33.ABA
4B$9.7B34.A5B$8.2A6B33.5BAB$2.2A3.A2BA2BA3B30.2A4B2A2B$.A.A3.B2A6B29.
2A3BA2B2AB$.A5.9B28.A9B2A$2A4.10B28.A5BA5B$5.12B27.3AB2A7B$5.11B29.BA
2BA6B$6.11B29.2B2AB2A3B$6.5BD6B28.4BACA3B$5.B.3B3D4B2A28.3BD2CBAB$7.
5BD2B.B2A28.5BDBA$8.6B3.B30.5BA!

Another five generations and all has become clearer. Notice that in the top section, 41 generations in, the change still has not propagated to the top.

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x = 57, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory
6.3A37.3A$6.ABA37.ABA$5.A2BA36.A2BA$5.3A2B35.3A2B$5.3A2B35.3A2B$5.BA
2BAB34.BA2BAB$4.2BA3B34.2BA3B$4.5BAB33.5BAB$5.6B34.6B$5.2BA3B34.2BA3B
$5.2BA3B34.3BA2B$5.3B2A2B33.2B2A3B$3.3B3A2B32.8B$3.4BA3B32.8B$2.2B3A
4B31.9B$2.3BA6B30.10B$.10B30.10B$B2A4BA4B28.4B3A5B$A2BA2BD2A4B27.5BAD
5B$BABAB3DBA2B2A26.5B3D2BAB$2BA4BCAB.B2A26.7BDBABA$.6BAB3.B28.9B2A$
50.A15$7.A39.A$7.3A37.3A$10.A39.A$9.2A38.2A4$A10.3A26.A10.3A$3A8.ABA
26.3A8.ABA$3.A6.BA2BA28.A6.BA2B$2.2A6.4BC27.2A6.4BD$9.A2BA2DC34.3B2DC
$8.ABABA2BC33.6BD$8.ABABABA34.3B3A$8.BA3BA2B32.4BA3B$8.8B32.3BA4B$7.B
A7B32.B3A4B$6.2AB2A5B33.A6B$2.2A3.A2BA6B28.9B2AB$.A.A3.B2A6B29.BABA4B
A2BA$.A5.9B27.3BA7B2A$2A4.10B26.2ABAB2A7B$5.12B25.A4BA2B2A5B$5.11B27.
A12B$6.11B27.A11B$6.5BD6B28.5BDBA2B$5.B.3B3D4B2A28.B2ACDC3B$7.5BD2B.B
2A28.4BAD2B$8.6B3.B30.6B!

Notice how the dangerous pi-heptomino has formed in the top section with the catalytic block. Notice how the change has not propagated to the top. At this point, I turn my attention completely to the top half, although I have removed the catalytic block to show the full extent of the change. 48 generations in, and the Herschel has formed. The change is still stuck in the bottom.

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x = 55, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
7.B39.B$6.3A37.3A$6.BAB37.BAB$5.3A2B35.3A2B$5.5B35.5B$4.6B34.6B$4.6B
34.6B$5.5B35.5B$5.6B34.6B$4.6B34.6B$4.7B33.7B$5.6B34.6B$5.6B34.6B$5.
6B34.2B2A2B$5.7B33.2B2A3B$3.8B32.8B$3.8B32.8B$2.9B31.9B$2.10B30.2B3A
5B$.10B30.2BA3BA3B$B2A9B28.3BA3BA4B$A2BA2BDB2A3B27.3BA2BDA3BA$BABAB3D
3BA28.4BA2CD2B3A$2BA4BC3BA28.7BDB2AB2A$.6BA2BA.B28.7B3AB3A$7.3A39.2AB
2A$50.3A$51.A!

70 generations in, and the Herschel has emitted its first natural glider. Has the change propagated to the top yet? Not even close. In fact, the only difference is that the B-heptomino's block was suppressed by the change. However, like I said, the change did not propagate past that.

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x = 61, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
3.3A37.3A$3.A2BA3B33.A2BA3B$2.A2B2A4B31.A2B2A4B$2.2A7B31.2A7B$3.8B32.
8B$4.2BA4B33.2BA4B$4.3B2A2B33.3B2A2B$4.2B2A3B33.2B2A3B$5.6B34.6B$5.6B
34.6B$5.6B34.6B$6.5B35.5B$6.6B34.6B$5.6B34.6B$5.7B33.7B$6.6B34.6B$6.
6B34.6B$6.6B34.2B2A2B$6.7B33.2B2A3B$4.8B32.8B$4.8B32.8B$3.9B31.2B3A4B
.2A$3.10B30.10B2AB$2.10B2.B27.14B$17B24.15B$4B2ABD8B2A23.6BD2B3A3B2A$
4B2A2DCA3B2ABAB23.5B2DC7B2A2B$4B2A2BD3BA3BA24.7BD3A9B$.7B2A2B2ABA2B
24.7BA10B$.12B2A3B27.14B$4.8B2A3B30.B.9B$7.5B3A2B32.6B2A$6.5BAB2AB33.
4BAB2A$7.5B2ABA34.2B2A3B$7.4B.3AB34.3B2AB$7.B2AB3.A35.6B$7.A2BA40.2AB
A$8.2A42.2AB$53.A!

We are now 99 generations in, and the first natural glider has reached the change, and the Herschel has dropped its first natural block. However, the change does not reach the evolving Herschel, it merely swallows up the first natural glider.

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x = 65, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
5.2B38.2B$4.A5B34.A5B$2.AB2A5B3.A27.AB2A5B3.A$.3A2BA7B3A24.3A2BA7B3A$
2AB5A2BA2BA3BA22.2AB5A2BA2BA3BA$.AB2A5B3A4BA23.AB2A5B3A4BA$2.6A2B3ABA
B2A24.6A2B3ABAB2A$3.4A3B2A3BA27.4A3B2A3BA$5.9B31.9B$4.8B32.8B$4.7B33.
7B$3.11B29.11B$3.12B28.12B$3.12B28.12B$3.B2A9B28.B2A9B$4.2A.8B29.2A.
8B$8.7B33.7B$8.7B33.7B$9.6B34.6B$9.7B33.7B$9.8B32.8B$10.8B32.8B$10.8B
A31.8BA$9.6B.3BA29.6B.3BA$9.7B.3A29.7B.3A$10.6B34.6B$10.6B3.3A28.6B$
10.6B3.3A28.2B2A2B$10.7B.B3AB27.2B2A3B$8.9BA5BAB23.8B$8.5BA2B2A5B3A
22.2BA5B$7.6B2A5BA6B3A17.3BA5B.2A$7.7B2AB5A7BA17.3BA6B2AB$6.9BAB4AB2A
3B3A16.14B$4.9B3A2B6AB3A2B15.7BA7B$4.7BDBAB3ABABA4BA2B16.5BACB2A5B2A$
4.3B2AB3D3BA2BA5BA2B17.5B2CD2A5B2A2B$4.3B2A3BD10BA4B17.7BD12B$5.15BA
5B20.3B2AB2A10B$5.13BA2BA27.2AB2A9B$8.13BAB28.A10B$11.11BA26.12B$10.
10B2A26.13B$11.11B27.2B2A2BABA3B2A$10.12B28.B2A2BABA2BA2BA$9.12B30.2A
4BA2BA2BA$10.5B2A4B31.2B2ABA3B2A$12.3B2AB34.BAB4A3B$12.3B2A36.A6B$13.
2B39.2A4B$55.A4B$56.4B$56.3B$57.2B!

At generation 121, the Herschel emits its second natural glider. The change is still squarely stuck in the bottom, not affecting the B-heptomino in any way, shape, or form.

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x = 85, y = 57, rule = LifeHistory
13.2BA47.2BA$12.B4A45.B4A$5.B2A2.2B6AB.B5.B28.B2A2.2B6AB.B5.B$3.2BA2B
A3BA4B2A9B2.B22.2BA2BA3BA4B2A9B2.B$.BA3BABA17B2A4B19.BA3BABA17B2A4B$
2A5B2A5BA9B2AB2A4B17.2A5B2A5BA9B2AB2A4B$.2A3BA8B2A7BA4BA3B18.2A3BA8B
2A7BA4BA3B$2.2B2A18BA3B3A2B19.2B2A18BA3B3A2B$4.13BA7B2A4BA22.13BA7B2A
4BA$7.10B2A4B.B3.BABA25.10B2A4B.B3.BABA$8.2B.6B2A2B8.2A27.2B.6B2A2B8.
2A$11.9B41.9B$12.11B39.11B$12.12B38.12B$12.12B38.12B$12.B2A9B38.B2A9B
$13.2A.8B39.2A.8B$17.7B43.7B$17.7B43.7B$18.6B44.6B$18.7B43.7B$18.8B
42.8B$19.8B42.8B$19.9B41.9B$18.6B.4B39.6B.4B$18.7B.3B39.7B.4B$19.6B2.
3B2.B36.6B2.4B$19.6B2.7B35.6B3.4B$19.6B2.8B.B32.6B4.4B$19.7B.4B3A4BA
2B27.6B2A4.3BA$17.14B3A2B2AB2A3B23.7BABA4.ABA$17.15BA3B2AB6A21.8BA2B
5.2A$16.19BAB2AB3A2BA20.9B3A$16.18BA2BA2BA3BA21.2BABA4BA3B$15.18BA3BA
B2A2BA21.2B3A9B$13.21BA3BA3B22.B2ABA10B$13.7BDB2A11BA3B2A23.B3A2BD8B
2A$13.3B2AB3D2A13B27.4BA3D7B2A2B$13.3B2A3BD15B27.2B3A2BD12B$14.20BA
30.5BA12B$14.20BABA30.3B3A9B$17.14B2ABA2BA29.A3BA9B$20.10B5A3B29.B3A
2B2A5B$19.18BA29.15B$20.11BA4BA31.16B$19.9B2ABA3BA32.13B3AB$18.11BABA
BABA31.13B2AB2A$19.5B2A4B.A2BA31.7BA6BA3B$21.2BA2BA4.3A31.A3B2.B2A8B
2A$21.3B2A6.A31.A3B3.2ABABA3BA2B$22.2B40.3A4.A3B3A2BABA$71.A2BABA4BA$
70.4BABA2B.B$70.6BAB$70.A5BAB$72.3B$72.3A!

At generation 176, the B-heptomino has finally stabilized. The change did not ever reach an active portion of the B-heptomino, the closest it ever got was that block.

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x = 131, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
24.B7.B61.B7.B$23.4B4.2AB59.4B4.2AB$21.10BABA57.10BABA$19.13B2A2B53.
13B2A2B$18.19B.2B48.19B.2B$17.25B45.25B$17.19B.8B42.19B.8B$17.29B41.
29B$16.30B40.30B$14.32B38.32B$13.33B37.33B$12.34B36.34B$11.11B2A22B
35.11B2A22B$10.12B2A22B34.12B2A22B$9.4B.32B33.4B.32B$8.4B2.21B.10B32.
4B2.21B.10B$7.4B4.19B4.8B31.4B4.19B4.8B$6.4B6.20B4.6B30.4B6.20B4.6B$
5.4B9.6B.12B4.4B30.4B9.6B.12B4.4B$4.4B10.3B4.12B37.4B10.3B4.12B$3.4B
18.B2A9B36.4B18.B2A9B$2.4B20.2A.8B4.B30.4B20.2A.8B$.4B25.7B3.4B27.4B
25.7B$A3B26.7B2.6B25.A3B26.7B$ABA28.6B.3B2A2B25.ABA26.8B$2A29.10B2A4B
2A21.2A27.9B$31.11BA6BA48.11B$32.5BA4B2ABA2BAB47.13B$32.3BA2BA3B2AB3A
2B47.8BA5B$31.3BA14B48.8B2A5B$31.3BA4BA10B47.9B2A.4B$32.2B2A14B7.2B
38.2B5A5B.4B$32.18B6.5B35.3BA3BA6B.4B$32.4B3A13B3.7B34.3BA3BA6B2.4B$
32.4B2A16B.8B33.4B3A7B3.4B$30.6B2A27B33.12B4.4B$30.6B2A7BA20B32.13B4.
4B$29.15BABA18B32.14B5.4B$29.11BABA4BA15B34.15B5.4B$28.12BABA2B3A11B
2.B34.16B6.4B$26.15BA3B2A8B.B38.11B2A4B7.4B$26.7BD7BA3BAB3A4B40.9BDBA
BA6B6.4B$26.3B2AB3D5B2A3B4A2B42.A6BABCDCA5B2A3B5.4B$26.3B2A3BD4B3ABAB
ABA3B42.ABA.B2A4BC3A3BABA3B5.4B$27.10B4AB2A6B43.2A3.ABA2BA9BA2B7.4B$
27.9BA2BA2B2A6B47.A2BAB2A12B8.4B$30.5BA6BA8B46.4BABA3BA2BA5B9.4B$31.
5BA14B45.2B2A6B2A2BA3BAB10.4B$30.7B2ABA10B45.4BA5BA3BA6B10.BABA$30.8B
ABA10B45.10BA4BABA4B10.B2A$26.2A.22B45.6B2A3B2A10B10.A$24.2A2B2A20B
47.5B2A3B2A10B$24.3AB2A6BA8B2A3B49.2BA6BA10B$24.4A7B3A7B2A2B49.3B6A
11B$25.2AB2A4B2A2BA11B47.4B2A2B2A10B$25.2AB2A7B3A9B47.4B2.8BA7B$25.BA
2BA6B3A4B.5B46.4B3.7BABA5B$26.BA7BABA4B2.5B45.4B4.5BA4BA4B$28.B.5B2AB
7.3B45.4B6.4BA4BA2.B$32.5B9.B45.4B7.9B2A$33.B57.4B10.8BA$90.4B11.4B2A
B3A$89.4B13.4BA2BA$88.4B15.2B3AB$87.4B16.2BABA$86.4B17.A4B$85.4B18.A
2BA$84.BA2B20.3A$83.2A2B$84.2A!

And this is MathAndCode's brilliancy. The change didn't ever reach a truly active portion of the B-heptomino, but catalysts helped it along in his conduit. This is what I missed, that he saw. Wow. Just wow.

[MathAndCode]

While I was searching for conduits accepting C*, I found an oscillator partial.

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo$6b2obo$8bo$4bo$2o2bo$2o2bo2bo$5b2o!

Can it be completed to make what would be one of the smallest p5 oscillators known?

[praosylen]

While I was searching for conduits accepting C*, I found an oscillator partial.

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rle

Can it be completed to make what would be one of the smallest p5 oscillators known?

Pentoad 1H2:

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$11bobo$11b2o$7b3o$9bo$7bo$7b3o$b2ob2o$o4bo$o5bo$b2o2b2o!

EDIT:

Can anything else be done with this catalytic block reaction? I wasn't able to come up with anything else no matter where I put my blocks and eater 1s (and eater 3s, snakes, and boats).

I'm pretty sure I've found something with that reaction before, but I don't remember where I would have posted it. Sorry I can't be of any more use! (Other than to say it's a known and investigated reaction...)

[MathAndCode]

And this is MathAndCode's brilliancy. The change didn't ever reach a truly active portion of the B-heptomino, but catalysts helped it along in his conduit. This is what I missed, that he saw. Wow. Just wow.

I think that you're overstating what I did. In my opinion, my conduits are extremely messy due to what would be a half-hearted placement of catalysts for anyone who knew how at least six catalysts worked.
Personally, what I'm most excited about is the bottom of the loafer, and the reaction consumes a fishhook. I'm just hoping that someone more experienced knows of a better catalyst.



Edit: I isolated the reaction.

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.A$10.A.A$10.2A$3.A$2.3A$.AD.2A$A2CD2A$.2AC2A$3.A2$4.A$3.3A$5.A!#C [[ T 118 PAUSE 0.3 ]] #C [[ T 119 PAUSE 0.3 ]] #C [[ T 120 PAUSE 0.3 ]] #C [[ T 121 PAUSE 0.3 ]]

It looks useless for making an entire loafer. However, the method looks like a modification of a century sequence or R sequence, so maybe it can be made by better converters.

[wwei23]

I think that you're overstating what I did. In my opinion, my conduits are extremely messy due to what would be a half-hearted placement of catalysts for anyone who knew how at least six catalysts worked.

I know how at least six catalysts work (Block, boat, eater 1, eater 2, eater 3, snake, and that ship catalysis that I may or may not have found), and you still did better than me.
Edit: Lol

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x = 18, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A$8.2A6$2A$.A11.D$.A.A8.3D$2.2A10.D12$3.2A$3.2A5.C$9.3C4.
2A$11.C4.2A!