Spaceship Eaters

[JP21]

Fireship eater, copperhead eater impossible this way:

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x = 105, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
28b2o3b2o34b2o3b2o$28b2o2bob3o30b3obo2b2o$32bo4bo28bo4bo$28b4ob2o2bo
28bo2b2ob4o$28bo2bobobob2o26b2obobobo2bo$31bobobobo28bobobobo$32b2obob
o28bobob2o$36bo30bo2$22b2o56b2o$23bo7b2o38b2o7bo$23bobo5b2o38b2o5bobo$
24b2o52b2o6$52b2o$34b2o16b2o14b2o$34bo34bo$35b3o28b3o$37bo28bo9$33b2o
36b2o$4bo29bo36bo$2b5o14b2o11bobo32bobo28bo$bo5bo13bo13b2o32b2o11b2o
14b5o$bo2b3o12bobo61bo13bo5bo$2obo15b2o62bobo12b3o2bo$o2b4o77b2o15bob
2o$b2o3bo3b2o86b4o2bo$3b3o4b2o12bo56bo11b2o3bo3b2o$3bo20b3o52b3o11b2o
4b3o$2obo23bo50bo22bo$2ob2o21b2o12b2o22b2o12b2o21bob2o$39bobo22bobo33b
2ob2o$39bo26bo$11b2o25b2o26b2o$12bo79b2o$9b3o80bo$9bo83b3o$36b2o30b2o
25bo$29b2o5bobo28bobo5b2o$29b2o7bo28bo7b2o$38b2o26b2o2$25bo54bo$24bobo
b2o46b2obobo$24bobobobo44bobobobo$23b2obobobo2bo38bo2bobobob2o$24bo2b
2ob4o38b4ob2o2bo$24bo4bo46bo4bo$25b3obo2b2o38b2o2bob3o$27b2o3b2o38b2o
3b2o$51b4o2$51bo2bo$50bob2obo$50bo4bo2$50bo4bo$50b2o2b2o$50b6o$51bo2bo
$52b2o$52b2o2$49b2o4b2o$49b2o4b2o$49b2o4b2o2$51bo2bo27$50b2o2b2o$50b2o
2b2o$49b3o2b3o$49b3o2b3o2$49bo6bo$49bo2b2o2bo$50b6o3$52b2o$51bo2bo$51b
4o$50b2o2b2o$47bo2bo4bo2bo$50bo4bo$51b4o$47bo10bo$48bo8bo2$52b2o!

Of course no better in any way than goldtiger based.

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x = 26, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14bobob2obo$16bobob2o$16b2o9$2o$bo2bo$bobobo$2ob2o19b2o$24bo$2ob
2o17bobo$bobo18b2o$bobo$2bo$12b4o2$12bo2bo$11bob2obo$11bo4bo2$11bo4bo$
11b2o2b2o$11b6o$12bo2bo$13b2o$13b2o2$10b2o4b2o$10b2o4b2o$10b2o4b2o2$
12bo2bo5$13b2o$13b2o$12bo2bo$12b4o$11bob2obo$12bo2bo2$11b2o2b2o$10bo6b
o2$11bo4bo$12bo2bo$13b2o!

What do you mean by "impossible"?

[Moosey]

Fireship eater, copperhead eater impossible this way:

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What do you mean by "impossible"?

He means that you can't eat a copperhead with it

[JP21]

Fireship eater, copperhead eater impossible this way:

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What do you mean by "impossible"?

He means that you can't eat a copperhead with it

Okay.

Can someone make an eater for 58P5H1V1? Some of my failed handmade eaters:

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x = 283, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o3$133b2o$80bo52b2o$79bobo117b2o54b2o$b2o77bo118b2o54b2o$b2o
138b2o$o2bo74b5o58b2o$o2bob2o71bo4bo123b2o54b2o$o80bo2bo45b2o75b2o54b
2o$o2bo3b2o72b2obo2bo42b2o$bo5b2o69bo5bobobo40bo2bo63b2o54b2o$b5obo69b
obo4bo2bobo39bo2bob2o60b2o54b2o$6bo70bo2bo2b2o3bobo38bo65bo2bo52bo2bo$
65b2o11b2o9bo39bo2bo3b2o57bo2bob2o49bo2bob2o$65b2o63bo5b2o57bo55bo$7b
3o54bo2bo19b5o38b5obo58bo2bo3b2o47bo2bo3b2o$9bo54bo2bob2o16bo4bo42bo
60bo5b2o48bo5b2o$10b2o52bo25bo2bo59b2o41b5obo49b5obo18b2o$11bo4b2o46bo
2bo3b2o17b2obo2bo56b2o46bo18b2o35bo19b2o$11bo3b3o47bo5b2o14bo5bobobo
38b3o81b2o$14bo4bo45b5obo14bobo4bo2bo41bo$15bo3bo8b2o40bo15bo2bo2b2o
45b2o61b3o53b3o$15bo12b2o57b2o51bo4b2o57bo55bo$15bobob2o119bo3b3o58b2o
54b2o$15bo5b2o48b3o69bo4bo57bo4b2o49bo4b2o$15b2o4b2o50bo70bo3bo8b2o47b
o3b3o49bo3b3o12b2o$17b4o53b2o68bo12b2o50bo4bo9b2o39bo4bo10b2o$75bo4b2o
62bobob2o60bo3bo9b2o40bo3bo$75bo3b3o62bo5b2o58bo55bo$78bo4bo60b2o4b2o
58bobob2o50bobob2o$79bo3bo62b4o60bo5b2o48bo5b2o$79bo130b2o4b2o48b2o4b
2o$79bobob2o127b4o52b4o$79bo5b2o$79b2o4b2o$81b4o!

[dvgrn]

Can someone make an eater for 58P5H1V1? Some of my failed handmade eaters...

The last reaction to the right certainly implies an eater, though not a terribly efficient one. You'd just have to catch the two output gliders and route them around to three edge-shooters, to use the leftover blinkers to restore the blocks that get destroyed:

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x = 54, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
34.C$32.2C$33.2C8$26.C7.C$24.2C6.2C$14.2C9.2C6.2C$14.2C2$41.C.C7.C.C$
22.2D17.2C8.2C$22.2D18.C9.C$19.A$19.A$19.A3$41.C.C$41.2C$42.C$36.2D$
36.2D2$.2A$.2A30.3A$A2.A$A2.A.2A$A$A2.A3.2A31.2C$.A5.2A31.2C$.5A.A$6.
A3$7.3A$9.A$10.2A$11.A4.2A$11.A3.3A$14.A4.A$15.A3.A$15.A$15.A.A.2A$
15.A5.2A$15.2A4.2A$17.4A!

Only the first glider has to be P2-synchronized with the blinker; the other two gliders can come along any time.

[Moosey]

Here's a much closer attempt based on a tub catalysis I found:

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x = 44, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
27bob2o$27b2obo2$25b5o$25bo4bo$28bo2bo$28b2obo2bo$25bo5bobobo$24bobo4b
o2bobo$24bo2bo2b2o3bobo$25b2o9bo2$34b5o$34bo4bo2b2o$37bo2bo2bo$27bo9b
2obobo$26bobo5bo5bob2o$27bo5bobo4bo$33bo2bo2b2o$34b2o2$b2o$b2o$o2bo$o
2bob2o$o$o2bo3b2o$bo5b2o$b5obo$6bo3$7b3o$9bo$10b2o$11bo4b2o$11bo3b3o$
14bo4bo$15bo3bo$15bo$15bobob2o$15bo5b2o$15b2o4b2o$17b4o!

(Repost)

[praosylen]

Almost:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
5bobo$2bo2b2obo$2b3o3bo$5b2ob2ob2o$4obobo4bo$o2bobo3b3o$3bobobobo$4b2o
b2o3$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo17bo$4bo2bob2o13bobo$4bo20bo$4bo2bo3b2o$5bo5b2o
10b5o$5b5obo11bo4bo$10bo15bo2bo$26b2obo$23bo5bob2o$11b3o8bobo4bobo$13b
o8bo2bo2b2o2bo$14b2o7b2o6b2o$15bo4b2o$15bo3b3o$18bo4bo$19bo3bo$19bo$
19bobob2o$19bo5b2o$19b2o4b2o$21b4o!

[BlinkerSpawn]

Another promising catalysis:

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x = 28, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$b2o7bo$b2o4b3o$7bo2$b2o$b2o$o2bo$o2bob2o$o11b2o$o2bo3b2o3b2o$bo5b
2o$b5obo$6bo$17b2o$17b2o$7b3o$9bo16b2o$10b2o13bobo$11bo4b2o7bo$11bo3b
3o6b2o$14bo4bo$15bo3bo$15bo$15bobob2o$15bo5b2o2b2o$15b2o4b2o2b2o$17b4o
!

[Gustone]

life y u do dis part 2

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
24.A$23.A.A$24.A2$22.5A$21.A4.A$20.A2.A$17.A2.A.2A$16.A.A.A5.A4.2A$
17.A2.A4.A.A3.2A$20.2A2.A2.A$25.2A2$32.2A$32.2A$31.A2.A$28.2A.A2.A$
34.A$8.A17.2A3.A2.A$7.A.A16.2A5.A$8.A18.A.5A$28.A$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A
17.3A$.A2.A.2A17.A$A.A.A5.A12.2A$.A2.A4.A.A5.2A4.A$4.2A2.A2.A5.3A3.A$
9.2A4.A4.A$15.A3.A$19.A$14.2A.A.A$8.2A2.2A5.A$8.2A2.2A4.2A$14.4A!

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
24.A$23.A.A$24.A2$22.5A$21.A4.A$20.A2.A$17.A2.A.2A$16.A.A.A5.A4.2A$
17.A2.A4.A.A3.2A$20.2A2.A2.A$25.2A2$32.2A$32.2A$31.A2.A$28.2A.A2.A$
34.A$8.A4.A12.2A3.A2.A$7.A.A3.3A10.2A5.A$8.A7.A10.A.5A$15.2A11.A$6.5A
$5.A4.A$4.A2.A17.3A$.A2.A.2A17.A$A.A.A5.A12.2A$.A2.A4.A.A5.2A4.A$4.2A
2.A2.A5.3A3.A$9.2A4.A4.A$15.A3.A$19.A$14.2A.A.A$8.2A2.2A5.A$8.2A2.2A
4.2A$14.4A!

[JP21]

life y u do dis part 2

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
24.A$23.A.A$24.A2$22.5A$21.A4.A$20.A2.A$17.A2.A.2A$16.A.A.A5.A4.2A$
17.A2.A4.A.A3.2A$20.2A2.A2.A$25.2A2$32.2A$32.2A$31.A2.A$28.2A.A2.A$
34.A$8.A17.2A3.A2.A$7.A.A16.2A5.A$8.A18.A.5A$28.A$6.5A$5.A4.A$4.A2.A
17.3A$.A2.A.2A17.A$A.A.A5.A12.2A$.A2.A4.A.A5.2A4.A$4.2A2.A2.A5.3A3.A$
9.2A4.A4.A$15.A3.A$19.A$14.2A.A.A$8.2A2.2A5.A$8.2A2.2A4.2A$14.4A!

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x = 35, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
24.A$23.A.A$24.A2$22.5A$21.A4.A$20.A2.A$17.A2.A.2A$16.A.A.A5.A4.2A$
17.A2.A4.A.A3.2A$20.2A2.A2.A$25.2A2$32.2A$32.2A$31.A2.A$28.2A.A2.A$
34.A$8.A4.A12.2A3.A2.A$7.A.A3.3A10.2A5.A$8.A7.A10.A.5A$15.2A11.A$6.5A
$5.A4.A$4.A2.A17.3A$.A2.A.2A17.A$A.A.A5.A12.2A$.A2.A4.A.A5.2A4.A$4.2A
2.A2.A5.3A3.A$9.2A4.A4.A$15.A3.A$19.A$14.2A.A.A$8.2A2.2A5.A$8.2A2.2A
4.2A$14.4A!

It's getting really close to an eater.

[dvgrn]

It's getting really close to an eater.

All things being equal, it's nice having an optional output signal... among other things, it's one way of dealing with annoying leftover junk.

Here's an actual 58P5H1V1 eater, not particularly well optimized because, well, what would be the point really? I'm posting this just to encourage people to find something much less awful.

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x = 981, y = 964, rule = B3/S23
815b2o$814bobo$808b2o4bo$806bo2bo2b2ob4o$806b2obobobobo2bo$809bobobobo
$809bobob2o$810bo2$823b2o$814b2o7bo$814b2o5bobo$821b2o7$811b2o$812bo$
809b3o$809bo12$799b2o$798bobo$792b2o4bo$793bo2b2ob4o$793bobobobo2bo$
790b2obobobobo$790b2obobob2o$794bo2$807b2o$798b2o7bo$798b2o5bobo$805b
2o7$795b2o$796bo$793b3o$793bo7$788b2o$787bobo$781b2o4bo$782bo2b2ob4o$
782bobobobo2bo$779b2obobobobo$779b2obobob2o$783bo2$796b2o$787b2o7bo$
787b2o5bobo$794b2o7$784b2o$785bo$782b3o$782bo25$697bo$697b3o$700bo$
699b2o3$691b2o$691bo$688b2obo$688bo2b3o4b2o$689b2o3bo3b2o$691b4o$691bo
15b2o$692b3o12bobo$695bo13bo$690b5o14b2o$690bo$692bo$691b2o6$780b2o$
780b2o$760bo$760b3o$763bo$762b2o2$743bo$743b3o$746bo$733bo11b2o11b2o$
731b3o24b2o$730bo$717bo12b2o$716bobo$716bobo71b2o$715b2ob2o70b2o$714bo
2bo2bo$714b2o2b2o$733b2o118bo$733b2o34b2o28b2o11bo40b3o$768bobo28b2o
10bobo42bo$768bo42bobo2b2o3bo33b2o$767b2o41b2ob2o2bo2bobo112bo$742bo3b
2o66bobo3bobo12b2o20b3o18b2o53b3o$666bo74bobo3bo62b2obo2b4obo13bo21bo
19bo2bo51bo$666b3o71bobo3bo12b2o49b2obobo3bo13bobo22bo18bo2bo5b2o44b2o
$669bo66b2obobo3bo13bobo52bobo3bo12b2o43b2o6b2o$668b2o66b2obo2b4obo13b
o53bobo3bo$740bobo3bobo12b2o53bo3b2o$736b2ob2o2bo2bobo41b2o50bo49bo49b
o$660b2o75bobo2b2o3bo42bo51b3o47b3o47b3o$660bo64b2o10bobo48bobo54bo49b
o49bo$657b2obo64b2o11bo49b2o17b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o$657bo
2b3o4b2o138b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o$658b2o3bo3b2o66bo18bo37b2o$660b4o71b3o5b
2o7b3o36bo2bo$660bo15b2o60bo4b2o6bo38bob2o185bo$661b3o12bobo58b2o12b2o
37bo187bobo$664bo13bo110b2o187bobo$659b5o14b2o124b2o173bo$659bo78b2o
64bo$661bo76b2o3b2o60b3o24b2o48b2o48b2o$660b2o81b2o62bo11b2o11b2o35b2o
11b2o35b2o11b2o$820bo49bo49bo$817b3o4bo42b3o47b3o$817bo6b3o40bo49bo$
725bo7bo93bo$725b3o5b3o90b2o18b2o$728bo7bo110bo5b2o6b2o$727b2o6b2o107b
3o5bo2bo5b2o44b2o48b2o$818b2o24bo7bo2bo12bo38bo49bo$708bo109bo34b2o13b
3o37b3o47b3o$708b3o87b2o15b2obo52bo38bo5bo43bo$711bo86b2o15bo2b3o4b2o
43b2o44b3o$698bo11b2o11b2o91b2o3bo3b2o92bo$696b3o24b2o93b4o96b2o$695bo
122bo15b2o26b2o$695b2o122b3o12bobo25bo$680b2o140bo13bo22b2obo47b2o$
681bo135b5o14b2o21bo2b3o4b2o39bo$681bob2o132bo42b2o3bo3b2o36b2obo$682b
o2bo133bo42b4o41bo2b3o4b2o$683b2o128b2o3b2o42bo15b2o28b2o3bo4bo$698b2o
113b2o48b3o12bobo29b4o$698b2o166bo13bo29bo15b2o$861b5o14b2o29b3o12bobo
$861bo52bo13bo6bo$863bo45b5o14b2o3b3o$707bo3b2o149b2o45bo22bo$706bobo
3bo198bo20b2o$705bobo3bo12b2o184b2o$701b2obobo3bo13bobo$701b2obo2b4obo
13bo213b2o$705bobo3bobo12b2o65b2o101bo44bo$701b2ob2o2bo2bobo80bo99b3o
44bob2o$702bobo2b2o3bo78b3o99bo39b2o4b3o2bo$690b2o10bobo86bo101b2o38b
2o3bo3b2o$690b2o11bo234b4o$789b5o130b2o15bo$682bo18bo87bo3bo107b2o20bo
bo12b3o$682b3o5b2o7b3o85bobo2bo16b2o91bo20bo13bo$685bo4b2o6bo88b2o3b2o
15bobo90bob2o16b2o14b5o$626bo57b2o12b2o111bo82b2o4b3o2bo36bo$626b3o
182b2o55bo25b2o3bo3b2o35bo$629bo236b3o30b4o37b2o$628b2o55b2o178bo19b2o
15bo$685b2o3b2o173b2o17bobo12b3o$690b2o192bo13bo$620b2o160b2o4b2o93b2o
14b5o$620bo161b2o4b2o83b2o28bo$617b2obo180b2o71bo26bo$617bo2b3o4b2o43b
o7bo111b2o7b2o71bob2o23b2o$618b2o3bo3b2o43b3o5b3o110bo72b2o4b3o2bo$
620b4o51bo7bo99b2o8bobo70b2o3bo3b2o$620bo15b2o36b2o6b2o99b2o2b2o5b2o
75b4o$621b3o12bobo148bobo67b2o15bo$624bo13bo16bo119b2o12bo66bobo12b3o$
619b5o14b2o15b3o117bobo11b2o65bo13bo$619bo38bo118bo33b2o42b2o14b5o$
621bo23bo11b2o11b2o105b2o31bobo62bo$620b2o21b3o24b2o138bo60b2o$642bo
166b2o60b2o$642b2o$627b2o$628bo146b2o$628bob2o143bobo12b2o$629bo2bo
144bo13bo$630b2o145b2o12bobo$645b2o145b2o15b2o$645b2o162b2o3$792b2o$
654bo3b2o131bobo$653bobo3bo107b2o22bo$652bobo3bo12b2o85b2o7b2o21b2o$
648b2obobo3bo13bobo85bo$648b2obo2b4obo13bo85bobo$652bobo3bobo12b2o85b
2o26b2o$648b2ob2o2bo2bobo126bo2bo2b2o$649bobo2b2o3bo128b2o2bobo$637b2o
10bobo138b2o16b2o$637b2o11bo126b2o11bo17bo$776bobo8b2obo2bo15b3o$776bo
10bob2obobo16bo$750b2o23b2o14bobo$750bo37b2o2bo$748bobo35b3ob2o$748b2o
35bo$756b2o28b3ob2o$757bo30bob2o$757bobo$758b2o15b2o21b2o$775b2o21b2o
7b2o$807bo$743b2o4b2o54bobo$743b2o4b2o7b2o45b2o$757bobo$757bo$756b2o$
744b2o39b2o$662b2o80b2o2b2o35b2o$662b2o84bobo3b2o$736b2o12bo2bo2bo2b2o
$736bobo11b2o2b2o2bobo$670b2o66bo17b2o16b2o$670b2o66b2o16bo17bo26bo$
753b2obo2bo15b3o22bobo$753bob2obobo16bo22bobo$757bobo41bo$754b2o2bo43b
3o$736b2o14b3ob2o46bo$736bobo12bo$738bo13b3ob2o$738b2o14bob2o$684b2o$
684b2o78b2o$764b2o7b2o$773bo$771bobo$771b2o$728b2o$719b2o7b2o$688b2o
30bo$688b2o30bobo28b2o82bo$721b2o28b2o82b3o$838bo$837b2o2$738b2o$737bo
bo27bo$737bo28bobo$736b2o28bobo$767bo$768b3o76b2o$770bo69b2o5bobo$717b
2o121b2o7bo$718bo71bo58b2o$718bobo69b3o$719b2o15b2o55bo42bo$736b2o54b
2o41bobob2o$835bobobobo$832b2obobobobo2bo$719b2o111bo2bo2b2ob4o$718bob
o113b2o4bo$718bo121bobo$717b2o122b2o$802b2o$795b2o5bobo$715b2o78b2o7bo
$714bo2bo2b2o82b2o$715b2o2bobo$717b2o16b2o54bo$717bo17bo54bobob2o$714b
2obo2bo15b3o51bobobobo$714bob2obobo16bo48b2obobobobo2bo$718bobo66bo2bo
2b2ob4o$715b2o2bo69b2o4bo$713b3ob2o76bobo$712bo83b2o$713b3ob2o$715bob
2o2$725b2o$725b2o7b2o$734bo$732bobo$732b2o$599b2o$599b2o$598bo2bo$598b
o2bob2o107b2o24bo$598bo113b2o24b3o$598bo2bo3b2o134bo$599bo5b2o133b2o$
599b5obo$604bo$728bo$727bobo$605b3o119bobo$607bo120bo$608b2o119b3o18b
2o$609bo4b2o115bo11b2o5bobo$609bo3b3o127b2o7bo$612bo4bo134b2o$613bo3bo
$613bo125bo$613bobob2o119bobob2o$613bo5b2o117bobobobo$613b2o4b2o114b2o
bobobobo2bo$615b4o116bo2bo2b2ob4o$737b2o4bo$743bobo$744b2o572$2bo$2b2o
$4bo$b2ob3o$o3bob2o$4b3obo$b2obobob2o$3bob2obo$8bo2$3bo5bo$4bo4bo$7bo
2bo$11bo$12b2o3bo$15b4o$11bo7bo$16b5o$16bobobo$12bo4b5o$13bo2bo5bo$17b
o2bob2o$17bo2bo$19bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART STEP 5 X 290 Y -297 Z 1.3 LOOP 5972 ]]

[JP21]

All things being equal, it's nice having an optional output signal... among other things, it's one way of dealing with annoying leftover junk.

But why?
And don't forget i tried to find a way to get some gliders then failed.

Here's an actual 58P5H1V1 eater, not particularly well optimized because, well, what would be the point really? I'm posting this just to encourage people to find something much less awful.

Code: Select all

x = 981, y = 964, rule = B3/S23
815b2o$814bobo$808b2o4bo$806bo2bo2b2ob4o$806b2obobobobo2bo$809bobobobo
$809bobob2o$810bo2$823b2o$814b2o7bo$814b2o5bobo$821b2o7$811b2o$812bo$
809b3o$809bo12$799b2o$798bobo$792b2o4bo$793bo2b2ob4o$793bobobobo2bo$
790b2obobobobo$790b2obobob2o$794bo2$807b2o$798b2o7bo$798b2o5bobo$805b
2o7$795b2o$796bo$793b3o$793bo7$788b2o$787bobo$781b2o4bo$782bo2b2ob4o$
782bobobobo2bo$779b2obobobobo$779b2obobob2o$783bo2$796b2o$787b2o7bo$
787b2o5bobo$794b2o7$784b2o$785bo$782b3o$782bo25$697bo$697b3o$700bo$
699b2o3$691b2o$691bo$688b2obo$688bo2b3o4b2o$689b2o3bo3b2o$691b4o$691bo
15b2o$692b3o12bobo$695bo13bo$690b5o14b2o$690bo$692bo$691b2o6$780b2o$
780b2o$760bo$760b3o$763bo$762b2o2$743bo$743b3o$746bo$733bo11b2o11b2o$
731b3o24b2o$730bo$717bo12b2o$716bobo$716bobo71b2o$715b2ob2o70b2o$714bo
2bo2bo$714b2o2b2o$733b2o118bo$733b2o34b2o28b2o11bo40b3o$768bobo28b2o
10bobo42bo$768bo42bobo2b2o3bo33b2o$767b2o41b2ob2o2bo2bobo112bo$742bo3b
2o66bobo3bobo12b2o20b3o18b2o53b3o$666bo74bobo3bo62b2obo2b4obo13bo21bo
19bo2bo51bo$666b3o71bobo3bo12b2o49b2obobo3bo13bobo22bo18bo2bo5b2o44b2o
$669bo66b2obobo3bo13bobo52bobo3bo12b2o43b2o6b2o$668b2o66b2obo2b4obo13b
o53bobo3bo$740bobo3bobo12b2o53bo3b2o$736b2ob2o2bo2bobo41b2o50bo49bo49b
o$660b2o75bobo2b2o3bo42bo51b3o47b3o47b3o$660bo64b2o10bobo48bobo54bo49b
o49bo$657b2obo64b2o11bo49b2o17b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o$657bo
2b3o4b2o138b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o$658b2o3bo3b2o66bo18bo37b2o$660b4o71b3o5b
2o7b3o36bo2bo$660bo15b2o60bo4b2o6bo38bob2o185bo$661b3o12bobo58b2o12b2o
37bo187bobo$664bo13bo110b2o187bobo$659b5o14b2o124b2o173bo$659bo78b2o
64bo$661bo76b2o3b2o60b3o24b2o48b2o48b2o$660b2o81b2o62bo11b2o11b2o35b2o
11b2o35b2o11b2o$820bo49bo49bo$817b3o4bo42b3o47b3o$817bo6b3o40bo49bo$
725bo7bo93bo$725b3o5b3o90b2o18b2o$728bo7bo110bo5b2o6b2o$727b2o6b2o107b
3o5bo2bo5b2o44b2o48b2o$818b2o24bo7bo2bo12bo38bo49bo$708bo109bo34b2o13b
3o37b3o47b3o$708b3o87b2o15b2obo52bo38bo5bo43bo$711bo86b2o15bo2b3o4b2o
43b2o44b3o$698bo11b2o11b2o91b2o3bo3b2o92bo$696b3o24b2o93b4o96b2o$695bo
122bo15b2o26b2o$695b2o122b3o12bobo25bo$680b2o140bo13bo22b2obo47b2o$
681bo135b5o14b2o21bo2b3o4b2o39bo$681bob2o132bo42b2o3bo3b2o36b2obo$682b
o2bo133bo42b4o41bo2b3o4b2o$683b2o128b2o3b2o42bo15b2o28b2o3bo4bo$698b2o
113b2o48b3o12bobo29b4o$698b2o166bo13bo29bo15b2o$861b5o14b2o29b3o12bobo
$861bo52bo13bo6bo$863bo45b5o14b2o3b3o$707bo3b2o149b2o45bo22bo$706bobo
3bo198bo20b2o$705bobo3bo12b2o184b2o$701b2obobo3bo13bobo$701b2obo2b4obo
13bo213b2o$705bobo3bobo12b2o65b2o101bo44bo$701b2ob2o2bo2bobo80bo99b3o
44bob2o$702bobo2b2o3bo78b3o99bo39b2o4b3o2bo$690b2o10bobo86bo101b2o38b
2o3bo3b2o$690b2o11bo234b4o$789b5o130b2o15bo$682bo18bo87bo3bo107b2o20bo
bo12b3o$682b3o5b2o7b3o85bobo2bo16b2o91bo20bo13bo$685bo4b2o6bo88b2o3b2o
15bobo90bob2o16b2o14b5o$626bo57b2o12b2o111bo82b2o4b3o2bo36bo$626b3o
182b2o55bo25b2o3bo3b2o35bo$629bo236b3o30b4o37b2o$628b2o55b2o178bo19b2o
15bo$685b2o3b2o173b2o17bobo12b3o$690b2o192bo13bo$620b2o160b2o4b2o93b2o
14b5o$620bo161b2o4b2o83b2o28bo$617b2obo180b2o71bo26bo$617bo2b3o4b2o43b
o7bo111b2o7b2o71bob2o23b2o$618b2o3bo3b2o43b3o5b3o110bo72b2o4b3o2bo$
620b4o51bo7bo99b2o8bobo70b2o3bo3b2o$620bo15b2o36b2o6b2o99b2o2b2o5b2o
75b4o$621b3o12bobo148bobo67b2o15bo$624bo13bo16bo119b2o12bo66bobo12b3o$
619b5o14b2o15b3o117bobo11b2o65bo13bo$619bo38bo118bo33b2o42b2o14b5o$
621bo23bo11b2o11b2o105b2o31bobo62bo$620b2o21b3o24b2o138bo60b2o$642bo
166b2o60b2o$642b2o$627b2o$628bo146b2o$628bob2o143bobo12b2o$629bo2bo
144bo13bo$630b2o145b2o12bobo$645b2o145b2o15b2o$645b2o162b2o3$792b2o$
654bo3b2o131bobo$653bobo3bo107b2o22bo$652bobo3bo12b2o85b2o7b2o21b2o$
648b2obobo3bo13bobo85bo$648b2obo2b4obo13bo85bobo$652bobo3bobo12b2o85b
2o26b2o$648b2ob2o2bo2bobo126bo2bo2b2o$649bobo2b2o3bo128b2o2bobo$637b2o
10bobo138b2o16b2o$637b2o11bo126b2o11bo17bo$776bobo8b2obo2bo15b3o$776bo
10bob2obobo16bo$750b2o23b2o14bobo$750bo37b2o2bo$748bobo35b3ob2o$748b2o
35bo$756b2o28b3ob2o$757bo30bob2o$757bobo$758b2o15b2o21b2o$775b2o21b2o
7b2o$807bo$743b2o4b2o54bobo$743b2o4b2o7b2o45b2o$757bobo$757bo$756b2o$
744b2o39b2o$662b2o80b2o2b2o35b2o$662b2o84bobo3b2o$736b2o12bo2bo2bo2b2o
$736bobo11b2o2b2o2bobo$670b2o66bo17b2o16b2o$670b2o66b2o16bo17bo26bo$
753b2obo2bo15b3o22bobo$753bob2obobo16bo22bobo$757bobo41bo$754b2o2bo43b
3o$736b2o14b3ob2o46bo$736bobo12bo$738bo13b3ob2o$738b2o14bob2o$684b2o$
684b2o78b2o$764b2o7b2o$773bo$771bobo$771b2o$728b2o$719b2o7b2o$688b2o
30bo$688b2o30bobo28b2o82bo$721b2o28b2o82b3o$838bo$837b2o2$738b2o$737bo
bo27bo$737bo28bobo$736b2o28bobo$767bo$768b3o76b2o$770bo69b2o5bobo$717b
2o121b2o7bo$718bo71bo58b2o$718bobo69b3o$719b2o15b2o55bo42bo$736b2o54b
2o41bobob2o$835bobobobo$832b2obobobobo2bo$719b2o111bo2bo2b2ob4o$718bob
o113b2o4bo$718bo121bobo$717b2o122b2o$802b2o$795b2o5bobo$715b2o78b2o7bo
$714bo2bo2b2o82b2o$715b2o2bobo$717b2o16b2o54bo$717bo17bo54bobob2o$714b
2obo2bo15b3o51bobobobo$714bob2obobo16bo48b2obobobobo2bo$718bobo66bo2bo
2b2ob4o$715b2o2bo69b2o4bo$713b3ob2o76bobo$712bo83b2o$713b3ob2o$715bob
2o2$725b2o$725b2o7b2o$734bo$732bobo$732b2o$599b2o$599b2o$598bo2bo$598b
o2bob2o107b2o24bo$598bo113b2o24b3o$598bo2bo3b2o134bo$599bo5b2o133b2o$
599b5obo$604bo$728bo$727bobo$605b3o119bobo$607bo120bo$608b2o119b3o18b
2o$609bo4b2o115bo11b2o5bobo$609bo3b3o127b2o7bo$612bo4bo134b2o$613bo3bo
$613bo125bo$613bobob2o119bobob2o$613bo5b2o117bobobobo$613b2o4b2o114b2o
bobobobo2bo$615b4o116bo2bo2b2ob4o$737b2o4bo$743bobo$744b2o572$2bo$2b2o
$4bo$b2ob3o$o3bob2o$4b3obo$b2obobob2o$3bob2obo$8bo2$3bo5bo$4bo4bo$7bo
2bo$11bo$12b2o3bo$15b4o$11bo7bo$16b5o$16bobobo$12bo4b5o$13bo2bo5bo$17b
o2bob2o$17bo2bo$19bo!
#C [[ AUTOSTART STEP 5 X 290 Y -297 Z 1.3 LOOP 5972 ]]

I thought it was a joke but I tried it and it wasn't.
Please don't add that because it's a bad idea (not really).
Just do it like this:

Code: Select all

x = 981, y = 964, rule = B3/S23
815b2o$814bobo$808b2o4bo$806bo2bo2b2ob4o$806b2obobobobo2bo$809bobobobo
$809bobob2o$810bo2$823b2o$814b2o7bo$814b2o5bobo$821b2o7$811b2o$812bo$
809b3o$809bo12$799b2o$798bobo$792b2o4bo$793bo2b2ob4o$793bobobobo2bo$
790b2obobobobo$790b2obobob2o$794bo2$807b2o$798b2o7bo$798b2o5bobo$805b
2o7$795b2o$796bo$793b3o$793bo7$788b2o$787bobo$781b2o4bo$782bo2b2ob4o$
782bobobobo2bo$779b2obobobobo$779b2obobob2o$783bo2$796b2o$787b2o7bo$
787b2o5bobo$794b2o7$784b2o$785bo$782b3o$782bo25$697bo$697b3o$700bo$
699b2o3$691b2o$691bo$688b2obo$688bo2b3o4b2o$689b2o3bo3b2o$691b4o$691bo
15b2o$692b3o12bobo$695bo13bo$690b5o14b2o$690bo$692bo$691b2o6$780b2o$
780b2o$760bo$760b3o$763bo$762b2o2$743bo$743b3o$746bo$733bo11b2o11b2o$
731b3o24b2o$730bo$717bo12b2o$716bobo$716bobo71b2o$715b2ob2o70b2o$714bo
2bo2bo$714b2o2b2o$733b2o118bo$733b2o34b2o28b2o11bo40b3o$768bobo28b2o
10bobo42bo$768bo42bobo2b2o3bo33b2o$767b2o41b2ob2o2bo2bobo112bo$742bo3b
2o66bobo3bobo12b2o41b2o53b3o$666bo74bobo3bo62b2obo2b4obo13bo41bo2bo51b
o$666b3o71bobo3bo12b2o49b2obobo3bo13bobo41bo2bo5b2o44b2o$669bo66b2obob
o3bo13bobo52bobo3bo12b2o43b2o6b2o$668b2o66b2obo2b4obo13bo53bobo3bo$
740bobo3bobo12b2o53bo3b2o$736b2ob2o2bo2bobo41b2o50bo49bo49bo$660b2o75b
obo2b2o3bo42bo51b3o47b3o47b3o$660bo64b2o10bobo48bobo54bo49bo49bo$657b
2obo64b2o11bo49b2o17b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o$657bo2b3o4b2o
138b2o48b2o48b2o48b2o$658b2o3bo3b2o66bo18bo37b2o$660b4o71b3o5b2o7b3o
36bo2bo$660bo15b2o60bo4b2o6bo38bob2o185bo$661b3o12bobo58b2o12b2o37bo
187bobo$664bo13bo110b2o187bobo$659b5o14b2o124b2o173bo$659bo78b2o64bo$
661bo76b2o3b2o60b3o24b2o48b2o48b2o$660b2o81b2o62bo11b2o11b2o35b2o11b2o
35b2o11b2o$820bo49bo49bo$817b3o4bo42b3o47b3o$817bo6b3o40bo49bo$725bo7b
o93bo$725b3o5b3o90b2o18b2o$728bo7bo110bo5b2o6b2o$727b2o6b2o107b3o5bo2b
o5b2o44b2o48b2o$818b2o24bo7bo2bo12bo38bo49bo$708bo109bo34b2o13b3o37b3o
47b3o$708b3o87b2o15b2obo52bo38bo5bo43bo$711bo86b2o15bo2b3o4b2o43b2o44b
3o$698bo11b2o11b2o91b2o3bo3b2o92bo$696b3o24b2o93b4o96b2o$695bo122bo15b
2o26b2o$695b2o122b3o12bobo25bo$680b2o140bo13bo22b2obo47b2o$681bo135b5o
14b2o21bo2b3o4b2o39bo$681bob2o132bo42b2o3bo3b2o36b2obo$682bo2bo133bo
42b4o41bo2b3o4b2o$683b2o128b2o3b2o42bo15b2o28b2o3bo4bo$698b2o113b2o48b
3o12bobo29b4o$698b2o166bo13bo29bo15b2o$861b5o14b2o29b3o12bobo$861bo52b
o13bo6bo$863bo45b5o14b2o3b3o$707bo3b2o149b2o45bo22bo$706bobo3bo198bo
20b2o$705bobo3bo12b2o184b2o$701b2obobo3bo13bobo$701b2obo2b4obo13bo213b
2o$705bobo3bobo12b2o65b2o101bo44bo$701b2ob2o2bo2bobo80bo99b3o44bob2o$
702bobo2b2o3bo78b3o99bo39b2o4b3o2bo$690b2o10bobo86bo101b2o38b2o3bo3b2o
$690b2o11bo234b4o$789b5o130b2o15bo$682bo18bo87bo3bo107b2o20bobo12b3o$
682b3o5b2o7b3o85bobo2bo16b2o91bo20bo13bo$685bo4b2o6bo88b2o3b2o15bobo
90bob2o16b2o14b5o$626bo57b2o12b2o111bo82b2o4b3o2bo36bo$626b3o182b2o55b
o25b2o3bo3b2o35bo$629bo236b3o30b4o37b2o$628b2o55b2o178bo19b2o15bo$685b
2o3b2o173b2o17bobo12b3o$690b2o192bo13bo$620b2o160b2o4b2o93b2o14b5o$
620bo161b2o4b2o83b2o28bo$617b2obo180b2o71bo26bo$617bo2b3o4b2o43bo7bo
111b2o7b2o71bob2o23b2o$618b2o3bo3b2o43b3o5b3o110bo72b2o4b3o2bo$620b4o
51bo7bo99b2o8bobo70b2o3bo3b2o$620bo15b2o36b2o6b2o99b2o2b2o5b2o75b4o$
621b3o12bobo148bobo67b2o15bo$624bo13bo16bo119b2o12bo66bobo12b3o$619b5o
14b2o15b3o117bobo11b2o65bo13bo$619bo38bo118bo33b2o42b2o14b5o$621bo23bo
11b2o11b2o105b2o31bobo62bo$620b2o21b3o24b2o138bo60b2o$642bo166b2o60b2o
$642b2o$627b2o$628bo146b2o$628bob2o143bobo12b2o$629bo2bo144bo13bo$630b
2o145b2o12bobo$645b2o145b2o15b2o$645b2o162b2o3$792b2o$654bo3b2o131bobo
$653bobo3bo107b2o22bo$652bobo3bo12b2o85b2o7b2o21b2o$648b2obobo3bo13bob
o85bo$648b2obo2b4obo13bo85bobo$652bobo3bobo12b2o85b2o26b2o$648b2ob2o2b
o2bobo126bo2bo2b2o$649bobo2b2o3bo128b2o2bobo$637b2o10bobo138b2o16b2o$
637b2o11bo126b2o11bo17bo$776bobo8b2obo2bo15b3o$776bo10bob2obobo16bo$
750b2o23b2o14bobo$750bo37b2o2bo$748bobo35b3ob2o$748b2o35bo$756b2o28b3o
b2o$757bo30bob2o$757bobo$758b2o15b2o21b2o$775b2o21b2o7b2o$807bo$743b2o
4b2o54bobo$743b2o4b2o7b2o45b2o$757bobo$757bo$756b2o$744b2o39b2o$662b2o
80b2o2b2o35b2o$662b2o84bobo3b2o$736b2o12bo2bo2bo2b2o$736bobo11b2o2b2o
2bobo$670b2o66bo17b2o16b2o$670b2o66b2o16bo17bo26bo$753b2obo2bo15b3o22b
obo$753bob2obobo16bo22bobo$757bobo41bo$754b2o2bo43b3o$736b2o14b3ob2o
46bo$736bobo12bo$738bo13b3ob2o$738b2o14bob2o$684b2o$684b2o78b2o$764b2o
7b2o$773bo$771bobo$771b2o$728b2o$719b2o7b2o$688b2o30bo$688b2o30bobo28b
2o82bo$721b2o28b2o82b3o$838bo$837b2o2$738b2o$737bobo27bo$737bo28bobo$
736b2o28bobo$767bo$768b3o76b2o$770bo69b2o5bobo$717b2o121b2o7bo$718bo
71bo58b2o$718bobo69b3o$719b2o15b2o55bo42bo$736b2o54b2o41bobob2o$835bob
obobo$832b2obobobobo2bo$719b2o111bo2bo2b2ob4o$718bobo113b2o4bo$718bo
121bobo$717b2o122b2o$802b2o$795b2o5bobo$715b2o78b2o7bo$714bo2bo2b2o82b
2o$715b2o2bobo$717b2o16b2o54bo$717bo17bo54bobob2o$714b2obo2bo15b3o51bo
bobobo$714bob2obobo16bo48b2obobobobo2bo$718bobo66bo2bo2b2ob4o$715b2o2b
o69b2o4bo$713b3ob2o76bobo$712bo83b2o$713b3ob2o$715bob2o2$725b2o$725b2o
7b2o$734bo$732bobo$732b2o$599b2o$599b2o$598bo2bo$598bo2bob2o107b2o24bo
$598bo113b2o24b3o$598bo2bo3b2o134bo$599bo5b2o133b2o$599b5obo$604bo$
728bo$727bobo$605b3o119bobo$607bo120bo$608b2o119b3o18b2o$609bo4b2o115b
o11b2o5bobo$609bo3b3o127b2o7bo$612bo4bo134b2o$613bo3bo$613bo125bo$613b
obob2o119bobob2o$613bo5b2o117bobobobo$613b2o4b2o114b2obobobobo2bo$615b
4o116bo2bo2b2ob4o$737b2o4bo$743bobo$744b2o572$2bo$2b2o$4bo$b2ob3o$o3bo
b2o$4b3obo$b2obobob2o$3bob2obo$8bo2$3bo5bo$4bo4bo$7bo2bo$11bo$12b2o3bo
$15b4o$11bo7bo$16b5o$16bobobo$12bo4b5o$13bo2bo5bo$17bo2bob2o$17bo2bo$
19bo!

by the way, have you seen my p9 orthogonal spaceship, 64p2h1v0 glider synthesis, and a new p28 oscillator? (all found at random posts)

[dvgrn]

All things being equal, it's nice having an optional output signal... among other things, it's one way of dealing with annoying leftover junk.

But why?

"... it's one way of dealing with annoying leftover junk." And if someone eventually comes up with a 58P5H1V1 recipe, it can be added to the "roller coaster" of interchangeable signals.

Please don't add that because it's a bad idea (not really).

Well, you said "please", so I should probably try and figure out why you don't like it. When you say "that", I assume you mean the LifeViewer waypoint script? Personally I prefer big patterns to be posted the way I posted this one, with an appropriate pre-set viewpoint and zoom, because that way you can immediately see what you're supposed to see. Otherwise everything is zoomed out so far by default that it's hard to know what you're looking at without fiddling with LifeViewer controls.

If you don't like a waypoint script, you can click the reset "|<" button and instantly disable it. And yes, it's possible to fake things with LifeViewer, but it's considered impolite to do that without clear labeling (except on April 1st).

by the way, have you seen my p9 orthogonal spaceship, 64p2h1v0 glider synthesis, and a new p28 oscillator? (all found at random posts)

I assume the p9 spaceship is in some other rule, so not really relevant to this forum board. A B3/S23 one would be Pattern of the Year material. So would a 64p2h1v0 glider synthesis, for that matter, but I think you mean this 64P2H1V0-to-glider converter... a synthesis of a glider, not by gliders. If you provide links when you mention things, they're much more likely to be seen -- why make each individual reader of your post do all the search work separately?

EDIT: Aha, found the troll post. It's best to keep that kind of thing strictly in the Sandbox and not mention them on the CGoL Patterns board as if they're real. "p9 spaceship" is a search term with real examples in other rules, so it would be nice not to have too many false positives cluttering up the search results.

[JP21]

I just don't like the loop unless if it obviously looks like a joke but that is serious and you used loop (it is not a bad idea but it is a bit unnecessary) and all those 3 (from random posts) are fake.

[dvgrn]

I just don't like the loop unless if it obviously looks like a joke but that is serious and you used loop (it is not a bad idea but it is a bit unnecessary)...

Yeah, I can see that. I've been building LifeWiki animations with loops for a while now and kind of got used to doing things that way. I wonder how many people don't like the unending animations on LifeWiki either?

To me it seems better to do a loop, instead of just letting the action stop and showing a picture of a dead Life universe forever -- or worse, an animation of some random explosion, if it's a stamp collection that gets run beyond the maximum time that it was designed for. Again, the "|<" button seems like a fairly painless escape route if an animation isn't what you want.

... and all those 3 (from random posts) are fake. (not the g-to-64p2h1v0)

Aha, again! When you wrote "all found at random posts" I read that to mean that you posted them in various different messages and I'd have to look for them. I'm kinda clueless sometimes.

"Found in the random posts thread" or "found in Random Posts" would have clued me in better, but really, just add a direct link! After other people have added a few more pages of random junk to Random Posts, it will still be hard to figure out where to look if only the thread is known and not the message (troll post again).

By "g-to-64p2h1v0" you mean the 64P2H1V0-to-G, right?

Re: your edit to the last post:

EDIT: Aha, found the troll post. It's best to keep that kind of thing strictly in the Sandbox and not mention them on the CGoL Patterns board as if they're real. "p9 spaceship" is a search term with real examples in other rules, so it would be nice not to have too many false positives cluttering up the search results.

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

I made a "Thread for your Trolls" thread in the Sandbox, so please post them there.

All of your trolls are in this page: User:Entity Valkyrie 2/Trolls

[JP21]

Another almost eater with a glider output:

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x = 34, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
7$14bo$3b2o7b3o$3b2o6bo$10bobo$10b2o$3b2o$3b2o$2bo2bo$2bo2bob2o$2bo$2b
o2bo3b2o$3bo5b2o$3b5obo$8bo3$9b3o$11bo14b2o$12b2o12b2o$13bo4b2o$13bo3b
3o$16bo4bo$17bo3bo$17bo$17bobob2o5b2o$17bo5b2o3b2o$17b2o4b2o$19b4o!

[dvgrn]

Another almost eater with a glider output...

Well... but that boat-with-tail isn't a catalyst, it's just a very expensive sacrifice. If you want to get into adding bait still lifes and then rebuilding them, the Seeds of Destruction Game can help you find much cheaper objects to sacrifice, like

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x = 64, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A$15.2A12$.2A$.2A$A2.A$A2.A.2A17.B$A23.2B$A2.A3.2A15.3B10.2A$.A5.
2A15.4B8.A2.A$.5A.A17.4B8.2A$6.A19.4B$27.4B$28.4B$7.3A19.4B$9.A20.4B$
10.2A19.4B2.2B$11.A4.2A14.8B$11.A3.3A15.7B$14.A4.A14.2B2D2BD$15.A3.A
14.3B3D2B$15.A18.4BD4B$15.A.A.2A12.11B$15.A5.2A10.14B$15.2A4.2A9.2A
14B$17.4A11.2A13B$31.15B$32.14B$33.14B$33.15B$33.16B$33.20B$32.23B$
32.23B.2B$26.2A5.24B2A$27.A5.24B2A$27.A.AB3.21B.2B$28.2AB2.22B$30.26B
$29.28B$29.30B$29.31B$29.31B$28.4B.B5.17B2A.B2A$27.4B10.7B3.4BABA.BA.
A$26.4B11.6B8.BA5.A$25.4B10.A7B15.2A$24.4B10.A.A2.4B$24.3B11.2A4.B$
24.2B$24.B!

Hook up each of the output gliders to a factory to rebuild one of the two bait still lifes, and that should make an eater. As a bonus, probably it will be one with an optional output somewhere, to make it into a converter. And it will pretty definitely be a lot faster than that horrible thing I posted earlier.

There might be a way to do something like this with just one factory-constructible bait still life; I didn't check all the options.

EDIT: A few more minutes with Seeds of Destruction turned up something reasonably clean and simple:

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x = 198, y = 198, rule = LifeHistory
103.2A$103.A.A$105.A4.2A$101.4A.2A2.A2.A$101.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$103.BABABA
.A$104.B2ABA.A$105.2B.BA$104.3B7.A$95.2A6.4B7.3A$96.A6.B2A3B8.A$96.A.
AB3.B2A4B6.A.A$97.2AB.10B5.A.AB$99.13B5.A3B$99.5B3D6B6.4B$99.7BD7B5.
6B$101.4BD3B2.4B4.7B$101.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B$100.9B4.17B.B2A$99.4B4.2A5.
18B2A$98.4B5.A6.16B.2B$97.4B7.3A3.5BD10B$96.4B10.A3.6BD8B$95.4B11.A.
2AB.2B3D7B$94.4B10.2A.A.AB2.11B$93.4B11.A2.A5.10B3.2A$92.4B14.2A5.2B
2A6B3.A$91.4B21.3B2A6B4.A$90.4B23.10B3.2A$89.4B24.8B.B2A$88.4B24.7B3.
B2AB2A$87.4B25.6B6.B.A$86.4B27.6B4.2A3.A$73.2A10.4B28.5B4.A2.4A$74.A
9.4B28.8B.A.A.A$72.A10.4B29.7B3.A2.A.2A$72.5A5.4B5.2A14.2A7.6B7.A.A$
77.A4.4B5.A16.A6.2B3D2B6.2A2.A$74.3AB2.7B.BA.A16.A.AB3.4BD2B3.A.A2.A.
A$73.A.2B3.7B.B2A18.2AB2.4B3DB3.2A2.A.A$73.4A7B2D3B22.11B8.A$71.2A2.B
A3B2A2BDBD2B22.11B$70.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B22.11B$70.2A.A.B3.10B21.11B$73.
A8.8B21.7B.2B$73.2A7.9B20.11B$83.3B2.4B20.10B$81.5B3.4B19.12B$81.2A7.
4B19.13B$82.A8.4B15.17B$79.3A10.4B13.18B$79.A13.4B11.2B2A13B.B2A$94.
4B11.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A$95.4B9.8B4.B8.A$96.4B8.6B15.2A$97.4B7.7B$98.4B7.
6B$99.4B5.6B$100.4B5.5B$101.4B4.6B$102.4B3.6B$103.4B2.6B$104.4B.2B3D
2B2.A$105.6BD4B.A.A$106.4B3D4B.A59.2A$107.10B42.2A.A.2A11.B2AB$108.9B
41.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.3B$109.5B2AB.2B23.A13.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B$108.6B
2A5B22.3A12.A.5A2.B8.5B$107.10B.3B25.A13.A4.AB2A6.6B$106.17B22.2A12.A
3.A.A.2A4.8B$105.18B22.4B9.A3.A.A2.13B$104.20B23.3B8.2A3.A5.13B$103.
21B22.4B18.15B$102.21B.2B20.5B12.B4.15B$101.21B.5B17.6B11.2B.B.17B$
100.21B.6B17.8B2.29B$99.21B.9B14.14BD11B2A2B2D9B$98.21B.11B3.A10.13B
3D9B2A2BDBD9B$97.2A19B.12B2.A.A10.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A$96.B2A18B.10B.B
4.A10.15BD19B4.A2.A$96.A2BA16B.17B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$95.BA2BAB2A
12B.13B2A5B8.17B14.6B7.A$95.BA17B.14B2A8B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$96.A2BA3B
2A8B.21BD22B15.2A4.4B10.2A$96.BA5B2A7B.20BDBD13B.8B16.A5.4B9.A$96.B5A
BA7B.21B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B10.A$97.5BA7B.22BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A2.3A
5.4B5.5A$99.10B.38B10.A14.A2.A5.5B3.A$100.B3.4B.21B.4B5.B.3B.B12.3A
10.2A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$103.3AB.21B3.4B25.A15.2AB.7B3.2B.A$104.BA.21B5.4B
42.3B2D7B4A$106.2A19B7.4B41.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$106.BA4B2A12B9.4B40.4BD
2B2A2B.B3A2.A$107.A.2B3A11B11.4B39.10B3.B.A.2A$109.BA4BA8B13.4B37.8B
8.A$109.2BA3BA7B15.4B35.9B7.2A$108.3BA10B17.4B33.4B2.3B$109.2BABAB2A
4B19.4B31.4B3.5B$110.BA5B2AB21.4B29.4B7.2A$110.B2A4B2A23.4B27.4B8.A$
111.2B4AB25.4B25.4B10.3A$114.2B28.4B23.4B13.A$145.4B21.4B$146.4B19.4B
$147.4B10.A6.4B$148.4B7.3A5.4B$149.4B5.A7.4B$150.4B4.2A5.4B$151.9B4.
4B$152.6B5.4B$152.4BD3B2.4B$150.7BD7B$150.5B3D6B$150.13B$148.2AB.10B$
147.A.AB3.B2A3B$147.A6.B2A3B$146.2A6.4B$155.3B$156.2B.BA$155.B2ABA.A$
154.BABABA.A$152.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$152.4A.2A2.A2.A$156.A4.2A$154.A.A$154.
2A47$2.2A$.A2.A$.A2.2A$3A2.A$3A2.A.2A$.2A5.2A$.2A$2.5A.2A$3.5A2$9.A$
9.2A$10.A$11.2A$12.2A2.A.A$16.A.2A$15.A3.A$15.2A$15.2A2.3A$15.2A4.2A$
15.2A6.A$16.5A2.A$17.6A$19.2A!

[JP21]

Another almost eater with a glider output...

Well... but that boat-with-tail isn't a catalyst, it's just a very expensive sacrifice. If you want to get into adding bait still lifes and then rebuilding them, the Seeds of Destruction Game can help you find much cheaper objects to sacrifice, like

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x = 64, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A$15.2A12$.2A$.2A$A2.A$A2.A.2A17.B$A23.2B$A2.A3.2A15.3B10.2A$.A5.
2A15.4B8.A2.A$.5A.A17.4B8.2A$6.A19.4B$27.4B$28.4B$7.3A19.4B$9.A20.4B$
10.2A19.4B2.2B$11.A4.2A14.8B$11.A3.3A15.7B$14.A4.A14.2B2D2BD$15.A3.A
14.3B3D2B$15.A18.4BD4B$15.A.A.2A12.11B$15.A5.2A10.14B$15.2A4.2A9.2A
14B$17.4A11.2A13B$31.15B$32.14B$33.14B$33.15B$33.16B$33.20B$32.23B$
32.23B.2B$26.2A5.24B2A$27.A5.24B2A$27.A.AB3.21B.2B$28.2AB2.22B$30.26B
$29.28B$29.30B$29.31B$29.31B$28.4B.B5.17B2A.B2A$27.4B10.7B3.4BABA.BA.
A$26.4B11.6B8.BA5.A$25.4B10.A7B15.2A$24.4B10.A.A2.4B$24.3B11.2A4.B$
24.2B$24.B!

Hook up each of the output gliders to a factory to rebuild one of the two bait still lifes, and that should make an eater. As a bonus, probably it will be one with an optional output somewhere, to make it into a converter. And it will pretty definitely be a lot faster than that horrible thing I posted earlier.

There might be a way to do something like this with just one factory-constructible bait still life; I didn't check all the options.

EDIT: A few more minutes with Seeds of Destruction turned up something reasonably clean and simple:

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x = 198, y = 198, rule = LifeHistory
103.2A$103.A.A$105.A4.2A$101.4A.2A2.A2.A$101.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$103.BABABA
.A$104.B2ABA.A$105.2B.BA$104.3B7.A$95.2A6.4B7.3A$96.A6.B2A3B8.A$96.A.
AB3.B2A4B6.A.A$97.2AB.10B5.A.AB$99.13B5.A3B$99.5B3D6B6.4B$99.7BD7B5.
6B$101.4BD3B2.4B4.7B$101.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B$100.9B4.17B.B2A$99.4B4.2A5.
18B2A$98.4B5.A6.16B.2B$97.4B7.3A3.5BD10B$96.4B10.A3.6BD8B$95.4B11.A.
2AB.2B3D7B$94.4B10.2A.A.AB2.11B$93.4B11.A2.A5.10B3.2A$92.4B14.2A5.2B
2A6B3.A$91.4B21.3B2A6B4.A$90.4B23.10B3.2A$89.4B24.8B.B2A$88.4B24.7B3.
B2AB2A$87.4B25.6B6.B.A$86.4B27.6B4.2A3.A$73.2A10.4B28.5B4.A2.4A$74.A
9.4B28.8B.A.A.A$72.A10.4B29.7B3.A2.A.2A$72.5A5.4B5.2A14.2A7.6B7.A.A$
77.A4.4B5.A16.A6.2B3D2B6.2A2.A$74.3AB2.7B.BA.A16.A.AB3.4BD2B3.A.A2.A.
A$73.A.2B3.7B.B2A18.2AB2.4B3DB3.2A2.A.A$73.4A7B2D3B22.11B8.A$71.2A2.B
A3B2A2BDBD2B22.11B$70.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B22.11B$70.2A.A.B3.10B21.11B$73.
A8.8B21.7B.2B$73.2A7.9B20.11B$83.3B2.4B20.10B$81.5B3.4B19.12B$81.2A7.
4B19.13B$82.A8.4B15.17B$79.3A10.4B13.18B$79.A13.4B11.2B2A13B.B2A$94.
4B11.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A$95.4B9.8B4.B8.A$96.4B8.6B15.2A$97.4B7.7B$98.4B7.
6B$99.4B5.6B$100.4B5.5B$101.4B4.6B$102.4B3.6B$103.4B2.6B$104.4B.2B3D
2B2.A$105.6BD4B.A.A$106.4B3D4B.A59.2A$107.10B42.2A.A.2A11.B2AB$108.9B
41.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.3B$109.5B2AB.2B23.A13.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B$108.6B
2A5B22.3A12.A.5A2.B8.5B$107.10B.3B25.A13.A4.AB2A6.6B$106.17B22.2A12.A
3.A.A.2A4.8B$105.18B22.4B9.A3.A.A2.13B$104.20B23.3B8.2A3.A5.13B$103.
21B22.4B18.15B$102.21B.2B20.5B12.B4.15B$101.21B.5B17.6B11.2B.B.17B$
100.21B.6B17.8B2.29B$99.21B.9B14.14BD11B2A2B2D9B$98.21B.11B3.A10.13B
3D9B2A2BDBD9B$97.2A19B.12B2.A.A10.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A$96.B2A18B.10B.B
4.A10.15BD19B4.A2.A$96.A2BA16B.17B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$95.BA2BAB2A
12B.13B2A5B8.17B14.6B7.A$95.BA17B.14B2A8B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$96.A2BA3B
2A8B.21BD22B15.2A4.4B10.2A$96.BA5B2A7B.20BDBD13B.8B16.A5.4B9.A$96.B5A
BA7B.21B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B10.A$97.5BA7B.22BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A2.3A
5.4B5.5A$99.10B.38B10.A14.A2.A5.5B3.A$100.B3.4B.21B.4B5.B.3B.B12.3A
10.2A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$103.3AB.21B3.4B25.A15.2AB.7B3.2B.A$104.BA.21B5.4B
42.3B2D7B4A$106.2A19B7.4B41.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$106.BA4B2A12B9.4B40.4BD
2B2A2B.B3A2.A$107.A.2B3A11B11.4B39.10B3.B.A.2A$109.BA4BA8B13.4B37.8B
8.A$109.2BA3BA7B15.4B35.9B7.2A$108.3BA10B17.4B33.4B2.3B$109.2BABAB2A
4B19.4B31.4B3.5B$110.BA5B2AB21.4B29.4B7.2A$110.B2A4B2A23.4B27.4B8.A$
111.2B4AB25.4B25.4B10.3A$114.2B28.4B23.4B13.A$145.4B21.4B$146.4B19.4B
$147.4B10.A6.4B$148.4B7.3A5.4B$149.4B5.A7.4B$150.4B4.2A5.4B$151.9B4.
4B$152.6B5.4B$152.4BD3B2.4B$150.7BD7B$150.5B3D6B$150.13B$148.2AB.10B$
147.A.AB3.B2A3B$147.A6.B2A3B$146.2A6.4B$155.3B$156.2B.BA$155.B2ABA.A$
154.BABABA.A$152.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$152.4A.2A2.A2.A$156.A4.2A$154.A.A$154.
2A47$2.2A$.A2.A$.A2.2A$3A2.A$3A2.A.2A$.2A5.2A$.2A$2.5A.2A$3.5A2$9.A$
9.2A$10.A$11.2A$12.2A2.A.A$16.A.2A$15.A3.A$15.2A$15.2A2.3A$15.2A4.2A$
15.2A6.A$16.5A2.A$17.6A$19.2A!

Alright then. I'm not that great at making good eaters. I'm gonna check that out. (maybe)

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Another almost eater with a glider output...

Well... but that boat-with-tail isn't a catalyst, it's just a very expensive sacrifice. If you want to get into adding bait still lifes and then rebuilding them, the Seeds of Destruction Game can help you find much cheaper objects to sacrifice, like

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x = 64, y = 61, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A$15.2A12$.2A$.2A$A2.A$A2.A.2A17.B$A23.2B$A2.A3.2A15.3B10.2A$.A5.
2A15.4B8.A2.A$.5A.A17.4B8.2A$6.A19.4B$27.4B$28.4B$7.3A19.4B$9.A20.4B$
10.2A19.4B2.2B$11.A4.2A14.8B$11.A3.3A15.7B$14.A4.A14.2B2D2BD$15.A3.A
14.3B3D2B$15.A18.4BD4B$15.A.A.2A12.11B$15.A5.2A10.14B$15.2A4.2A9.2A
14B$17.4A11.2A13B$31.15B$32.14B$33.14B$33.15B$33.16B$33.20B$32.23B$
32.23B.2B$26.2A5.24B2A$27.A5.24B2A$27.A.AB3.21B.2B$28.2AB2.22B$30.26B
$29.28B$29.30B$29.31B$29.31B$28.4B.B5.17B2A.B2A$27.4B10.7B3.4BABA.BA.
A$26.4B11.6B8.BA5.A$25.4B10.A7B15.2A$24.4B10.A.A2.4B$24.3B11.2A4.B$
24.2B$24.B!

Hook up each of the output gliders to a factory to rebuild one of the two bait still lifes, and that should make an eater. As a bonus, probably it will be one with an optional output somewhere, to make it into a converter. And it will pretty definitely be a lot faster than that horrible thing I posted earlier.

There might be a way to do something like this with just one factory-constructible bait still life; I didn't check all the options.

EDIT: A few more minutes with Seeds of Destruction turned up something reasonably clean and simple:

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x = 198, y = 198, rule = LifeHistory
103.2A$103.A.A$105.A4.2A$101.4A.2A2.A2.A$101.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$103.BABABA
.A$104.B2ABA.A$105.2B.BA$104.3B7.A$95.2A6.4B7.3A$96.A6.B2A3B8.A$96.A.
AB3.B2A4B6.A.A$97.2AB.10B5.A.AB$99.13B5.A3B$99.5B3D6B6.4B$99.7BD7B5.
6B$101.4BD3B2.4B4.7B$101.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B$100.9B4.17B.B2A$99.4B4.2A5.
18B2A$98.4B5.A6.16B.2B$97.4B7.3A3.5BD10B$96.4B10.A3.6BD8B$95.4B11.A.
2AB.2B3D7B$94.4B10.2A.A.AB2.11B$93.4B11.A2.A5.10B3.2A$92.4B14.2A5.2B
2A6B3.A$91.4B21.3B2A6B4.A$90.4B23.10B3.2A$89.4B24.8B.B2A$88.4B24.7B3.
B2AB2A$87.4B25.6B6.B.A$86.4B27.6B4.2A3.A$73.2A10.4B28.5B4.A2.4A$74.A
9.4B28.8B.A.A.A$72.A10.4B29.7B3.A2.A.2A$72.5A5.4B5.2A14.2A7.6B7.A.A$
77.A4.4B5.A16.A6.2B3D2B6.2A2.A$74.3AB2.7B.BA.A16.A.AB3.4BD2B3.A.A2.A.
A$73.A.2B3.7B.B2A18.2AB2.4B3DB3.2A2.A.A$73.4A7B2D3B22.11B8.A$71.2A2.B
A3B2A2BDBD2B22.11B$70.A2.3AB.2B2A2BD4B22.11B$70.2A.A.B3.10B21.11B$73.
A8.8B21.7B.2B$73.2A7.9B20.11B$83.3B2.4B20.10B$81.5B3.4B19.12B$81.2A7.
4B19.13B$82.A8.4B15.17B$79.3A10.4B13.18B$79.A13.4B11.2B2A13B.B2A$94.
4B11.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A$95.4B9.8B4.B8.A$96.4B8.6B15.2A$97.4B7.7B$98.4B7.
6B$99.4B5.6B$100.4B5.5B$101.4B4.6B$102.4B3.6B$103.4B2.6B$104.4B.2B3D
2B2.A$105.6BD4B.A.A$106.4B3D4B.A59.2A$107.10B42.2A.A.2A11.B2AB$108.9B
41.A2.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.3B$109.5B2AB.2B23.A13.A.A4.A.2A.A.2A5.B.B$108.6B
2A5B22.3A12.A.5A2.B8.5B$107.10B.3B25.A13.A4.AB2A6.6B$106.17B22.2A12.A
3.A.A.2A4.8B$105.18B22.4B9.A3.A.A2.13B$104.20B23.3B8.2A3.A5.13B$103.
21B22.4B18.15B$102.21B.2B20.5B12.B4.15B$101.21B.5B17.6B11.2B.B.17B$
100.21B.6B17.8B2.29B$99.21B.9B14.14BD11B2A2B2D9B$98.21B.11B3.A10.13B
3D9B2A2BDBD9B$97.2A19B.12B2.A.A10.7B.4BDBD13BD6B3.B2A$96.B2A18B.10B.B
4.A10.15BD19B4.A2.A$96.A2BA16B.17B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$95.BA2BAB2A
12B.13B2A5B8.17B14.6B7.A$95.BA17B.14B2A8B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$96.A2BA3B
2A8B.21BD22B15.2A4.4B10.2A$96.BA5B2A7B.20BDBD13B.8B16.A5.4B9.A$96.B5A
BA7B.21B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B10.A$97.5BA7B.22BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A2.3A
5.4B5.5A$99.10B.38B10.A14.A2.A5.5B3.A$100.B3.4B.21B.4B5.B.3B.B12.3A
10.2A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$103.3AB.21B3.4B25.A15.2AB.7B3.2B.A$104.BA.21B5.4B
42.3B2D7B4A$106.2A19B7.4B41.2BDBD2B2A3BAB2.2A$106.BA4B2A12B9.4B40.4BD
2B2A2B.B3A2.A$107.A.2B3A11B11.4B39.10B3.B.A.2A$109.BA4BA8B13.4B37.8B
8.A$109.2BA3BA7B15.4B35.9B7.2A$108.3BA10B17.4B33.4B2.3B$109.2BABAB2A
4B19.4B31.4B3.5B$110.BA5B2AB21.4B29.4B7.2A$110.B2A4B2A23.4B27.4B8.A$
111.2B4AB25.4B25.4B10.3A$114.2B28.4B23.4B13.A$145.4B21.4B$146.4B19.4B
$147.4B10.A6.4B$148.4B7.3A5.4B$149.4B5.A7.4B$150.4B4.2A5.4B$151.9B4.
4B$152.6B5.4B$152.4BD3B2.4B$150.7BD7B$150.5B3D6B$150.13B$148.2AB.10B$
147.A.AB3.B2A3B$147.A6.B2A3B$146.2A6.4B$155.3B$156.2B.BA$155.B2ABA.A$
154.BABABA.A$152.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$152.4A.2A2.A2.A$156.A4.2A$154.A.A$154.
2A47$2.2A$.A2.A$.A2.2A$3A2.A$3A2.A.2A$.2A5.2A$.2A$2.5A.2A$3.5A2$9.A$
9.2A$10.A$11.2A$12.2A2.A.A$16.A.2A$15.A3.A$15.2A$15.2A2.3A$15.2A4.2A$
15.2A6.A$16.5A2.A$17.6A$19.2A!

Note: the synthesis is a troll

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x = 328, y = 128, rule = B3/S23
33b2o198b2o$33bobo197bobo$35bo4b2o193bo4b2o$31b4ob2o2bo2bo187b4ob2o2bo
2bo$31bo2bobobobob2o187bo2bobobobob2o$34bobobobo193bobobobo$35b2obobo
194b2obobo$39bo199bo$44bo199bo$25b2o17b3o178b2o17b3o$26bo7b2o11bo178bo
7b2o11bo$26bobo5b2o10bobo177bobo5b2o10bobo$27b2o17bobo178b2o17bobo$47b
o199bo5$62b2o198b2o$37b2o23b2o173b2o23b2o$37bo199bo$38b3o197b3o$40bo
199bo$40bob2o196bob2o$38b2obobo194b2obobo$38bo2bo196bo2bo$40b2o7b2o
189b2o7b2o$49b2o198b2o2$57b2obo196b2obo$57b2ob3o194b2ob3o$63bo199bo$
57b2ob3o194b2ob3o$3b2o51bo2b2o142b2o51bo2b2o$4bo50bobo146bo50bobo$2bo
51bobob2obo140bo51bobob2obo$2b5o14b2o14b2o16bo2bob2o140b5o14b2o14b2o
16bo2bob2o$7bo13bo16bo19bo148bo13bo16bo19bo$4b3o12bobo16bobo16b2o145b
3o12bobo16bobo16b2o$3bo15b2o18b2o13bobo2b2o142bo15b2o18b2o13bobo2b2o$
3b4o47b2o2bo2bo141b4o47b2o2bo2bo$b2o3bo3b2o47b2o140b2o3bo3b2o47b2o$o2b
3o4b2o188bo2b3o4b2o$2obo196b2obo$3bo199bo$3b2o198b2o3$11b2o198b2o$12bo
199bo$9b3o197b3o$9bo30b2o15b2o150bo30b2o15b2o$40b2o15bobo180b2o15bobo$
59bo199bo$59b2o198b2o8$48bo199bo$47bobo197bobo$48bo47bo11b2o138bo47bo
11b2o$95bobo10b2o185bobo10b2o$87bo3b2o2bobo189bo3b2o2bobo$44b2o27bo12b
obo2bo2b2ob2o145b2o27bo12bobo2bo2b2ob2o$44b2o27b3o10bobo3bobo149b2o27b
3o10bobo3bobo$76bo10bob4o2bob2o177bo10bob4o2bob2o$75b2o12bo3bobob2o
176b2o12bo3bobob2o$88bo3bobo193bo3bobo$87bo3bobo193bo3bobo$87b2o3bo
194b2o3bo4$100b2o198b2o$19bo44bo35b2o162bo35b2o$20b2o41bobo49b2o146bob
o49b2o$19b2o43bo49bo2bo146bo49bo2bo$115b2obo196b2obo$24b2o33b2o57bo
140b2o57bo$18bo4bobo33b2o57b2o139b2o57b2o$18b2o3bo79b2o18b2o97b3o78b2o
18b2o$17bobo2b2o80bo18bo101bo78bo18bo$23bob2o48b2o24b3o21bo96b2o2bo48b
2o24b3o21bo$23bo2bo3b2o43b2o11b2o11bo2b3o14b5o96b2obob2o46b2o11b2o11bo
2b3o14b5o$24bo5bo57bo14bo2bo13bo101b2o2bo2bo58bo14bo2bo13bo$20bo4b4obo
58b3o10b2o2bobo12b3o99bobo3bo59b3o10b2o2bobo12b3o$20b2o5bobo61bo15b2o
15bo99bob2obo61bo15b2o15bo$19bobo99b4o101bobo92b4o$116b2o3bo3b2o98b4o
87b2o3bo3b2o$29bob2o83b2o4b3o2bo97b5o86b2o4b3o2bo$24b2o3b2obo91bob2o
97bo3b2o93bob2o$25b2o6b2o89bo103bo2bo92bo$24bo9bo5bo82b2o104bo2bo90b2o
$33bo4b3o192bo$33b2o2bo193bob2o2b3o$38bo76b2o115bob3o3bo74b2o$37b2o76b
o118b2obo2bo74bo$32bo5bob2o74b3o115b4obobo74b3o$32b2o4bo2bo2b2o72bo
114b3o2bobobo75bo$31bobo5bo5bo191bo5bo$40b5o193b4obo$42bo48bo147b3obo
47bo$36b2o10bo40b3o197b3o$37b2o8b2o39bo199bo$36bo5b2o3bobo38b2o198b2o$
43b2o$42bo5$78b2o198b2o$77bobo5b2o190bobo5b2o$77bo7b2o190bo7b2o$76b2o
198b2o2$90bo199bo$86b2obobo194b2obobo$85bobobobo193bobobobo$82bo2bobob
obob2o187bo2bobobobob2o$82b4ob2o2bo2bo187b4ob2o2bo2bo$86bo4b2o193bo4b
2o$84bobo197bobo$84b2o198b2o!







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[dvgrn]

Alright then. I'm not that great at making good eaters. I'm gonna check that out. (maybe)

Seeds of Destruction is by far the least painful search utility to learn how to use, and it works quite nicely for some problems along these lines.

If you really want an optimal solution, like a fast-recovering direct eater or converter, you'll probably have to try Bellman, CatForce, ptbsearch, or catalyst/catfind. The learning curve is fairly steep for those, especially for anyone not familiar with command-line interfaces -- though the LifeWiki tutorials section keeps getting better, so at least there's a place to start.

But for just trying things out and getting familiar with a problem, the Seeds of Destruction game is often very helpful. I've just added a placeholder Tutorials/Seeds_of_Destruction_Game, in case that's useful. I may or may not get around to adding a walkthrough for bait-based eaters and signal converters.

[JP21]

An almost spider eater:

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x = 37, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$17bo2bo$17b3o2$17b3o$16bo3bo$16b2ob2o4$2o33b2o$2o33b2o2$2o33b2o$
2o33b2o$14bo7bo$8b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$5b3obob3o9b3obob3o$5bo3bobo5bob
o5bobo3bo$9b2o6bobo6b2o$6b2o9bobo9b2o$6b2ob2o15b2ob2o$10bo15bo!

Edit: Soooo close:

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x = 33, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
6bo19bo$4b3o19b3o$3bo25bo$3b2o23b2o2$2o29b2o$obo27bobo$b2o27b2o7$12bo
7bo$6b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$3b3obob3o9b3obob3o$3bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$7b
2o6bobo6b2o$4b2o9bobo9b2o$4b2ob2o15b2ob2o$8bo15bo!

[Scorbie]

Somebody could check out a CatForce run on the c5d spaceship.
A preliminary result came out like this:

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
17b4o$15b2o4b2o$15bo5b2o$15bobob2o$15bo$15bo3bo$14bo4bo$11bo3b3o$11bo
4b2o$10b2o$9bo$7b3o3$6bo$b5obo$bo5b2o$o2bo3b2o$o$o2bob2o$o2bo11bo$b2o
11bobo$b2o11bobo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$5b2o!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Somebody could check out a CatForce run on the c5d spaceship.
A preliminary result came out like this:

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
17b4o$15b2o4b2o$15bo5b2o$15bobob2o$15bo$15bo3bo$14bo4bo$11bo3b3o$11bo
4b2o$10b2o$9bo$7b3o3$6bo$b5obo$bo5b2o$o2bo3b2o$o$o2bob2o$o2bo11bo$b2o
11bobo$b2o11bobo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$5b2o!

Yay!

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x = 53, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo13bo$19bo13bo$o18bo13bo18bo$o51bo$o51bo5$bo3b2o39b2o3bo$bo3b2o39b
2o3bo$bo49bo10$22bo7bo$16b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$13b3obob3o9b3obob3o$13b
o3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$17b2o6bobo6b2o$14b2o9bobo9b2o$14b2ob2o15b2ob2o$18b
o15bo!

Darn! Those blocks and blinkers didn't return to their original location!

[JP21]

Somebody could check out a CatForce run on the c5d spaceship.
A preliminary result came out like this:

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
17b4o$15b2o4b2o$15bo5b2o$15bobob2o$15bo$15bo3bo$14bo4bo$11bo3b3o$11bo
4b2o$10b2o$9bo$7b3o3$6bo$b5obo$bo5b2o$o2bo3b2o$o$o2bob2o$o2bo11bo$b2o
11bobo$b2o11bobo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$5b2o!

Yay!

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x = 53, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo13bo$19bo13bo$o18bo13bo18bo$o51bo$o51bo5$bo3b2o39b2o3bo$bo3b2o39b
2o3bo$bo49bo10$22bo7bo$16b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$13b3obob3o9b3obob3o$13b
o3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$17b2o6bobo6b2o$14b2o9bobo9b2o$14b2ob2o15b2ob2o$18b
o15bo!

Darn! Those blocks and blinkers didn't return to their original location!

Seriously?

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Somebody could check out a CatForce run on the c5d spaceship.
A preliminary result came out like this:

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
17b4o$15b2o4b2o$15bo5b2o$15bobob2o$15bo$15bo3bo$14bo4bo$11bo3b3o$11bo
4b2o$10b2o$9bo$7b3o3$6bo$b5obo$bo5b2o$o2bo3b2o$o$o2bob2o$o2bo11bo$b2o
11bobo$b2o11bobo$15bo3$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$5b2o!

Yay!

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x = 53, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
19bo13bo$19bo13bo$o18bo13bo18bo$o51bo$o51bo5$bo3b2o39b2o3bo$bo3b2o39b
2o3bo$bo49bo10$22bo7bo$16b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$13b3obob3o9b3obob3o$13b
o3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$17b2o6bobo6b2o$14b2o9bobo9b2o$14b2ob2o15b2ob2o$18b
o15bo!

Darn! Those blocks and blinkers didn't return to their original location!

Seriously?

It’s a reference to this:

Congratulations! Pattern of the year!

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x = 34, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
9bo$10bo$8b3o13$14b2o$14b2o16b2o$32b2o5$2o$2o25b2o$27b2o6$31b2o$31b2o!

Darn! Those 5 blocks didn't return to their original locations