short wide c/5 space ships

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short wide c/5 space ships

Post by HartmutHolzwart » March 27th, 2010, 5:45 pm

This thread is about new short wide c/5 space ships.

All known types are contained in Jasons collection. I just can provide one new:

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x = 111, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
14$32bo3b3o5b3o3bo30bo3b3o5b3o3bo$29b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o24b2ob5ob2o3b2o
b5ob2o$27bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo20bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$26bo3bobo
3b5ob5o3bobo3bo18bo3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo$30b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o11b4o11b3o5b
2o3b2o5b3o$27bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo6bo6bo6bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo$29bo23bo3bo3b
o3b2o3bo3bo3bo23bo$57b2o3bobo2bobo3b2o$57bobobobo4bobobobo!
Please send in some new ones. This would largely help in the construction of new c/5 greyships.

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by Sokwe » April 2nd, 2011, 9:27 pm

This symmetric tagalong for two spiders seems to be new:

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x = 93, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
9bo7bo57bo7bo$3b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o45b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$3obob3o9b
3obob3o39b3obob3o9b3obob3o$o3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo4b3o2b2ob2o4b3o4b2ob2o2b
3o4bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o9bo3bo4bo9bo4bo3bo9b2o6bobo6b2o$b
2o9bobo9b2o3b2obo10bo5bo10bob2o3b2o9bobo9b2o$b2ob2o15b2ob2o2b3obo5b2ob
obobobobobob2o5bob3o2b2ob2o15b2ob2o$5bo15bo6b2o3bo2b2o6bo3bo6b2o2bo3b
2o6bo15bo!
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by Sokwe » April 8th, 2011, 2:07 am

Here's another tagalong for two spiders:

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x = 92, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
67b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$65bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$2b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o10b2o16bob
2o8bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$o3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo7bobobo2b3o4b2o3bobo2bo
6bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$o3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo3b3obobo2b3obo4bob2obobobo2b
o4b2ob3o15b3ob2o$o5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo3b3o2b2o8bo4bo5bo3b2o3bo25bo$2ob3o
15b3ob2o2b3o3b2o9b5o5bobo2bo4bo3bo15bo3bo$o25bo2bo5b2o3bo3bo2bob3o4bo
5bo4bo2bo15bo2bo$bo3bo15bo3bo4bo10bo14bo3bobo$2bo2bo15bo2bo!
This is interesting, as the first 15 columns of the tagalong are the same as the last 15 columns flipped and advanced one generation. There are four ways for spiders to support either side of this tagalong, the two methods shown above and the following two related methods:

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x = 93, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
35b2o16bob2o11b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$34bobobo2b3o4b2o3bobo2bo7bo3bo3bo2bo3bo
2bo3bo3bo$30b3obobo2b3obo4bob2obobobo2bo5bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$2b2o5b
2o5b2o5b2o5b3o2b2o8bo4bo5bo3b2o4bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$o3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo
3bo3bo2b3o3b2o9b5o5bobo2bo4b2ob3o15b3ob2o$o3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo2bo5b2o
3bo3bo2bob3o4bo5bo3bo25bo$o5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo3bo10bo14bo3bobo4bo3bo15b
o3bo$2ob3o15b3ob2o41bo2bo15bo2bo$o25bo$bo3bo15bo3bo$2bo2bo15bo2bo!
There seems to be a lot of potential for more of these tagalongs to be found.

Edit: Here is another tagalong for two spiders:

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x = 81, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
56bo5b2o5b2o5bo$44b4o6bo2b2ob2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o2bo$2b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o12bo3b
4o7b3o4bobo3bobo3bobo4b3o$o3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo9bo8b4o3b2o2bo2b3ob2o
3b2ob3o2bo2b2o$o3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo10bobo3bo3bob2ob3o2b3o4bo3bo4b3o2b
3o$o5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo3bo7b2o3bo4bo2b3obo2bo15bo2bobo$2ob3o15b3ob2o3bo
7b2o12bobo23bo$o25bo3bo3bo3bo2bo8b2o$bo3bo15bo3bo6bo2b2o3bo$2bo2bo15bo
2bo7bo!
There is a very simple connection at the center of this tagalong, which looks potentially useful (it is the same sort of reaction that is the basis for eater 3).
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by Sokwe » April 16th, 2011, 3:57 pm

Here is another tagalong for two spiders with a simple reaction that could be useful (the spider supports on either side are interchangeable, and the spider on the right could be moved down two cells):

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x = 80, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4bo5b2o5b2o5bo$2bo2b2ob2o2bo3bo2b2ob2o2bo$3o4bobo3bobo3bobo4b3o26bo3b
3o5b3o3bo$2o2bo2b3ob2o3b2ob3o2bo2b2o23b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o$3o2b3o4bo3bo
4b3o2b3o21bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$bobo2bo15bo2bobo10bo8bo5bobo3b5ob5o
3bobo3bo$2bo23bo3bo7b2o6b2obo3b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o$30bo5bo2b3o8bo2bob3o13b
3obo2bo$30bo5bob2o2bobobo5bo23bo$32b2obo4bo5bo$32b2o2b2o4b3o!
A portion of this can be used to support an extended form of one of the previous tagalongs that I found:

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x = 127, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
102bo3b3o5b3o3bo$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo60bo8bo4b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o$3b2ob5ob2o
3b2ob5ob2o6bo50b2o6b2ob2ob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2o
bo5bo3bo8bo8bo4bo20bo2b3o11bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo5bobo
bob6o2b2ob2o2b6ob2obo11b3o5bob2o2bobobo6b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b
3o4bo3b3o2b2ob5ob5ob2o2b3o2bo8b3o3b2obo4bo5bo3bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo$bo2bo
b3o13b3obo2b3o3b4o4bo3bobo3bo4b4o3b2o6b3o2bobo2b2o4b3o7bo23bo$3bo23bo
4bo2bo2b2o2bo11bo2b2o4bo6bo2b2o$45b2o3b2o11bobob4o$70bo$71bo!
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by HartmutHolzwart » May 2nd, 2011, 2:31 pm

did we already have this one?

x = 160, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
9$20b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o54b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$18bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo3bo8bo9b
2o2b2o9bo8bo3bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$18bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo3bo7bobo7b
o2b2o2bo7bobo7bo3bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$18bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo3bo7bobo
5bo4b2o4bo5bobo7bo3bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$18b2ob3o15b3ob2o5b2o2bo8bobob
2o2b2obobo8bo2b2o5b2ob3o15b3ob2o$18bo25bo5bo2b3o2b2o4bo10bo4b2o2b3o2bo
5bo25bo$19bo3bo15bo3bo15bo4bo10bo4bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$20bo2bo15bo2bo8bobo
9bo12bo9bobo8bo2bo15bo2bo$63bo12bo!

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by Sokwe » May 2nd, 2011, 11:55 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:did we already have this one?
Not that I know of.

Here are some tagalongs related to the oblique antstretcher and some previous components:

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x = 120, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
52bo7bo$46b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$43b3obob3o9b3obob3o$43bo3bobo5bobo5bob
o3bo$47b2o6bobo6b2o$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo8b2o9bobo9b2o$3b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob
2o5bo2bo7b2ob2o15b2ob2o$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo3bo2bo3b2o6bo15bo$o3bo
bo3b5ob5o3bobo3bobo4bo2b2o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5bo4bo4bo$bo2bob3o13b3obo2b
o2bo$3bo23bo5bobob2o$38bo8$64bo3b3o5b3o3bo$47bo8bo4b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o
$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo11b2o6b2ob2ob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$3b2ob5ob2o3b2ob
5ob2o5bo2bo8bo2b3o11bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo3bo2bo
3b2o3bob2o2bobobo6b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bobo4bo2bobobo4bo
5bo3bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5bo4bo3b2o2b2o4b3o7bo23bo$bo2bo
b3o13b3obo2bo2bo$3bo23bo5bobob2o$38bo8$87b2o5b2o$74bo4b4obobobo5bobobo
b4o$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo28b3o6bobo2b3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o$3b2ob5ob2o
3b2ob5ob2o5bo2bo8bob4obo11b3o11bo3bobo13bobo3bo$bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2o
bo3bo2bo3b2o2bobobob3obo17bo2bo3bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo
3bobo4bo2bobo12b2o3bob8ob2o6b2o21b2o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5bo4bo3b2obo3bobo
8bo5b2o2b3o7b5o15b5o$bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo2bo10b7o7bobo10b2o10b2o15b2o$3b
o23bo5bobob2o9bo4b2obo2b3o$38bo8bo9bo10$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo66bo7bo$3b2o
b5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o5bo2bo8bob4obo43b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$bob2obo5bobobobo
5bob2obo3bo2bo3b2o2bobobob3obo38b3obob3o9b3obob3o$o3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3b
obo4bo2bobo12b2o3bo2b2ob2o4b3o4b2ob2o2b3o4bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$4b3o5b
2o3b2o5b3o5bo4bo3b2obo3bobo8bo3bo4bo9bo4bo3bo9b2o6bobo6b2o$bo2bob3o13b
3obo2bo2bo10b7o7bobo10bo5bo10bob2o3b2o9bobo9b2o$3bo23bo5bobob2o9bo4b2o
bo2b2o4b2obobobobobobob2o5bob3o2b2ob2o15b2ob2o$38bo8bo9bo3bob2o6bo3bo
6b2o2bo3b2o6bo15bo!
This leads to four more tagalongs based on previous component connections (see posts above):

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x = 150, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
11b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$9bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$9bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$9bo
5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo51b2o5b2o$9b2ob3o15b3ob2o5b2o36b4obobobo5bobobob4o$
9bo25bo4bobo35b3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o$10bo3bo15bo3bo5bobo31bo3bo3bob
o13bobo3bo$11bo2bo15bo2bo3b2o3bo21b3o6bobo3bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo$37b2o6bo
b4obo11b3o12b2o21b2o$37bo6bobobob3obo17bo2bo3b5o15b5o$42bo12b2o3bob8ob
2o9b2o15b2o$41b2obo3bobo8bo5b2o2b3o$43b7o7bobo10b2o$48bo4b2obo2b3o$47b
o9bo8$11b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$9bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$9bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3b
o$9bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$9b2ob3o15b3ob2o5b2o$9bo25bo4bobo$10bo3bo15bo3b
o5bobo$11bo2bo15bo2bo3b2o3bo59bo7bo$37b2o6bob4obo43b2obobob2o3b2obobob
2o$37bo6bobobob3obo38b3obob3o9b3obob3o$42bo12b2o3bo2b2ob2o4b3o4b2ob2o
2b3o4bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$41b2obo3bobo8bo3bo4bo9bo4bo3bo9b2o6bobo6b2o$
43b7o7bobo10bo5bo10bob2o3b2o9bobo9b2o$48bo4b2obo2b2o4b2obobobobobobob
2o5bob3o2b2ob2o15b2ob2o$47bo9bo3bob2o6bo3bo6b2o2bo3b2o6bo15bo10$11b2o
5b2o5b2o5b2o$9bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$9bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$9bo5b2o2b
3ob3o2b2o5bo$9b2ob3o15b3ob2o5b2o$9bo25bo4bobo$10bo3bo15bo3bo5bobo89bo
7bo$11bo2bo15bo2bo3b2o3bo83b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$37b2o6bob4obo57b2o6b
3o2b3obob3o9b3obob3o$37bo6bobobob3obo54b2o7b3o2bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$
42bo12b2o3bo2b2ob2o4b3o4b2ob2o2b2o13bo11bo3b3o7b2o6bobo6b2o$41b2obo3bo
bo8bo3bo4bo9bo4bo4bo11b2o5b4o6bo6b2o9bobo9b2o$43b7o7bobo10bo5bo12b2o7b
o3b6o2b2ob2obo7b2ob2o15b2ob2o$48bo4b2obo2b2o4b2obobobobobobob2o4b2ob2o
6bo7b2obo6bo12bo15bo$47bo9bo3bob2o6bo3bo6b2obobo2bob2obo2bobo14bo$89bo
3bob2o$93bob2o9$132bo7bo$6bo3b3o5b3o3bo10bo90b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$3b
2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o5bo2bo8bob4obo57b2o6b3o2b3obob3o9b3obob3o$bob2obo5bo
bobobo5bob2obo3bo2bo3b2o2bobobob3obo54b2o7b3o2bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$o3b
obo3b5ob5o3bobo3bobo4bo2bobo12b2o3bo2b2ob2o4b3o4b2ob2o2b2o13bo11bo3b3o
7b2o6bobo6b2o$4b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5bo4bo3b2obo3bobo8bo3bo4bo9bo4bo4bo11b2o
5b4o6bo6b2o9bobo9b2o$bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo2bo10b7o7bobo10bo5bo12b2o7bo3b
6o2b2ob2obo7b2ob2o15b2ob2o$3bo23bo5bobob2o9bo4b2obo2b2o4b2obobobobobob
ob2o4b2ob2o6bo7b2obo6bo12bo15bo$38bo8bo9bo3bob2o6bo3bo6b2obobo2bob2obo
2bobo14bo$89bo3bob2o$93bob2o!
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by HartmutHolzwart » May 7th, 2011, 7:30 am

x = 108, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
15$15bo3b3o5b3o3bo12b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$12b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o7bo3bo3bo2bo
3bo2bo3bo3bo$10bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo5bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$9bo3bobo
3b5ob5o3bobo3bo4bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$13b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o8b2ob3o15b3ob2o$
10bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo5bo25bo$12bo23bo3b2o3bo3bo15bo3bo$40b2o4bo2bo15bo
2bo!

x = 98, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
11$15bo3b3o5b3o3bo$12b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o4bo8bo13b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$10bob
2obo5bobobobo5bob2ob2ob2o6b2o7bo3bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$9bo3bobo3b5ob
5o3bobo11b3o2bo5bo3bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$13b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o6bobobo2b2ob
o5bo3bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$10bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo3bo5bo4bob2o5b2ob3o15b3o
b2o$12bo23bo7b3o4b2o2b2o5bo25bo$63bo3bo15bo3bo$64bo2bo15bo2bo!

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Re: short wide c/5 space ships

Post by Sokwe » May 11th, 2011, 9:26 pm

Here are two spider tagalongs that, at first glance, appear identical:

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x = 64, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
bobo$o2bo$bo2bo34b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$4b2obo16bo8bo3bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo
$4b5o14bobo7bo3bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$6bo2bo13bobo7bo3bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o
5bo$7bo10bo8bo2b2o5b2ob3o15b3ob2o$7bo3b2o4b2o3b2o2b3o2bo5bo25bo$11b3o
3bo4bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$9bo4bo13bobo8bo2bo15bo2bo$10b5o3b2o$11bo2b2ob3o$
17bo9$bobo$o2bo35b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$bo2bo19bo8bo3bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$
4b2obo15bobo7bo3bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$4b5o14bobo7bo3bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o
5bo$6bo2bo17bo2b2o5b2ob3o15b3ob2o$7bo10bo3b2o2b3o2bo5bo25bo$7bo3b2o4b
2o3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$11b3o3bo10bobo8bo2bo15bo2bo$9bo4bo$10b5o3b2o$11bo
2b2ob3o$17bo!
Here is a related spaceship (left) which is somewhat similar to a spaceship found by Nicolay Beluchenko (right):

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x = 95, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
bo69bo$2o68b2o$o2bo36b2obo26bo2bo$4bo26b3o2bo3b2ob2o29bo$3bo2b2o22bo5b
ob2o5bo27bo2b2o$5bo2bo17b3ob4o2bo3bo3bo30bo2bo$7bo12b3o4bo4b3o5bo3bo2b
o29bo$6b2o8b2o2b3o2b3o7b2o4b3o2b2o28b2o3bo$9b3o4bob2ob2o3b2o4bo3bo8bo
4b2o27b2obo$9b2ob2o3b3o2bo3b2o3bobobo10bobob3o26bo2b2o$9bo8b2o2bo11bob
o15bo26b2ob2o$11bobo3bo9bo21b2o25b2o2bo2bo$11bobob2o9bo22b2o24b2o6b2o$
75b2obob2obo$51b3o24bob3obo$51bo26bobobobo$50bo3bo$49bo4bo27bo3bo$54bo
31b2o$50b5o29bo2b3o$88b2ob2o$91bo$88bobo$91bo$88bo2bo$92bo$89bo$89b4o$
89bob2obo$89bo$94bo$90bo2bo$91bo!
Another thing to consider is long, thin components supported at the front by short, wide wings. Here is an example:

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x = 93, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
9bo7bo57bo7bo$3b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o9bobo21bobo9b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$
3obob3o9b3obob3o5b2obobo17bobob2o5b3obob3o9b3obob3o$o3bobo5bobo5bobo3b
o3b2o4b2o17b2o4b2o3bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$4b2o6bobo6b2o6bo2b5o19b5o2bo6b
2o6bobo6b2o$b2o9bobo9b2o7b2o23b2o7b2o9bobo9b2o$b2ob2o15b2ob2o2bo2bo6b
4o9b4o6bo2bo2b2ob2o15b2ob2o$5bo15bo6b2o9bob4o3b4obo9b2o6bo15bo$38bo6bo
bo6bo$38bo4bobobobo4bo$39bo5bobo5bo$40b2o9b2o$42b2o5b2o$41bo9bo2$41bob
o5bobo$40b3o7b3o2$39bo13bo$40bo11bo$40bo11bo!
Although these are unlikely to be useful for finding greyships, they may still give some interesting results.
-Matthias Merzenich

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