Stable technology

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Phantom Hoover
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Stable technology

Post by Phantom Hoover » May 22nd, 2010, 11:54 am

Other than easy construction and asynchrony, what advantages does it offer over p30 and p46 technology? p30 90° reflectors can fit in a 9x23 bounding box and can receive another glider in 30 generations; the stable 90° reflector in Gemini has an 81x70 bounding box and takes 488 generations to recover, so building complex circuits with p30 technology has an obvious advantage.

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Re: Stable technology

Post by calcyman » May 22nd, 2010, 12:07 pm

... and takes 488 generations to recover ...
497 generations, actually. The smallest, fastest 180° reflector takes a mere 106 generations to recover, and Herschel-based circuitry is faster still.

what advantages does it offer over p30 and p46 technology?
  • Easier to synthesise and destroy with gliders
  • Reflectors are more versatile, thanks to Herschel tracks
  • Completely asynchronous, therefore easier to design
  • Can emit gliders at any time, as opposed to multiples of 30 generations
  • Runs faster in HashLife

If you're still not convinced, try and construct either Gemini or my Phi calculator using only p30 technology.
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Re: Stable technology

Post by Phantom Hoover » May 22nd, 2010, 2:10 pm

But the Universal Turing Machine was implemented with p30, so it's certainly practical for computation.

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Re: Stable technology

Post by calcyman » May 23rd, 2010, 6:26 am

But the Universal Turing Machine was implemented with p30, so it's certainly practical for computation.
The Universal Turing Machine is not universal; it has a finite tape. The only infinite tapes implemented so far use stable technology.
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Re: Stable technology

Post by igblan » May 23rd, 2010, 6:39 am

calcyman wrote:The only infinite tapes implemented so far use stable technology.
Not true. The original MRM was implemented using P30 technology, based on Dean Hickerson's Sliding Block Memory. It's all I knew at the time.

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Re: Stable technology

Post by calcyman » May 23rd, 2010, 6:47 am

Not true. The original MRM was implemented using P30 technology, based on Dean Hickerson's Sliding Block Memory. It's all I knew at the time.
But are they not registers, rather than tapes? They store data in O(e^n) space, rather than O(n) space.
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Re: Stable technology

Post by igblan » May 23rd, 2010, 6:53 am

I might admit to the charge that the MRM is not "practical", but nevertheless it is a UC implemented in P30. :)

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Re: Stable technology

Post by calcyman » May 23rd, 2010, 7:00 am

but nevertheless it is a UC implemented in P30.
Yes, it is a Universal Computer. Or rather, it would be if it weren't for a glitch at (1330,6620).
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