newbie trying to discover new stuff. can anyone identify this pattern? I can't find it

[Whatamidoing]

I just downloaded Golly and I am experimenting with it. I have come across a Methuselah that I could not find, so i'm wondering if I missed the file, if its not on there, or if I (somehow) discovered a new pattern.

if the lattermost is so, I call it 3x4 Megaglider, as it is a glider scaled up somewhat. due to this nature, I believe it has been discovered

if so, can someone link the article?
i put the picture in Attachments

some information on it:
it stabilizes at around generation 150
it creates 3 blocks, 2 gliders, and a still-life ship

[goldenratio]

It's a one generation B-heptomino predecessor. In general closely connected patterns up to 10 cells have all been investigated.

Also use RLE. To do this just select the pattern you want to get the code for and use your typical copy to clipboard keyboard shortcut. Make sure to put RLEs in code tags.

You also posted this in the "Thread for your unsure discoveries" thread. That's a good choice, but please don't post the same thing in multiple places.

[Ian07]

Also use RLE

To clarify on this, if you select the pattern and then copy it and paste it inside a code tag, you can get the option to show it in an interactive pop-up window using the "Show in viewer" button:

Code: Select all

x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
3bo$o2bo$b3o!

Welcome to the forums!

[Whatamidoing]

It's a B-heptomino predecessor. In general closely connected patterns up to 10 cells have all been investigated.

Also use RLE

thanks for the info. i made a post on a different section (unsure discoveries) after deciding that one is better, so I will have to wait for the same reply there too I guess. I must have missed it on B-heptomino because it is not shown immediately apon looking on the page

[Hunting]

It's a B-heptomino predecessor. In general closely connected patterns up to 10 cells have all been investigated.

Also use RLE

thanks for the info. i made a post on a different section (unsure discoveries) after deciding that one is better, so I will have to wait for the same reply there too I guess. I must have missed it on B-heptomino because it is not shown immediately apon looking on the page

Also why did you consider it as a methuselah? It is not even as long lived as random scribble.

[bubblegum]

Also why did you consider it as a methuselah? It is not even as long lived as random scribble.

You're like the graph of a quadratic equation with a negative a term plotted on a graph where the x-axis is time from before on the left to after on the right and the y-axis is lifeenthusiastic skill going from more skilled on the top to after on the bottom. I don't even want to change your displayed name in the quote. I just can't put the thought I have for you in words.

(literally just for the ping)

yeah i'll give up the changing displaynames thing

Tip: Try rotating, reflecting or advancing a pattern if you can't find it on the LifeWiki, and see if that helps. I'd also advise you to check in pattern catalogues like mniemiec's database, the Pentadecathlon catalogue, Catagolue, or pattern collections like jslife.

[gameoflifemaniac]

You're like the graph of a quadratic equation with a negative a term plotted on a graph where the x-axis is time from before on the left to after on the right and the y-axis is lifeenthusiastic skill going from more skilled on the top to after on the bottom. I don't even want to change your displayed name in the quote. I just can't put the thought I have for you in words.

I'm too stupid to understand that roast lol

[Whatamidoing]

You're like the graph of a quadratic equation with a negative a term plotted on a graph where the x-axis is time from before on the left to after on the right and the y-axis is lifeenthusiastic skill going from more skilled on the top to after on the bottom. I don't even want to change your displayed name in the quote. I just can't put the thought I have for you in words.

I'm too stupid to understand that roast lol

don't worry, I am too. what am I doing on big brain math forum

[Hunting]

You're like the graph of a quadratic equation with a negative a term plotted on a graph where the x-axis is time from before on the left to after on the right and the y-axis is lifeenthusiastic skill going from more skilled on the top to after on the bottom. I don't even want to change your displayed name in the quote. I just can't put the thought I have for you in words.

I'm too stupid to understand that roast lol

don't worry, I am too. what am I doing on big brain math forum

Well this is not a "big brain math forum" (Math Stack Exchange and CS Theory Stack Exchange is). Most of the member here are big brain math people though.

Welcome!

[wzkchem5]

It's a B-heptomino predecessor. In general closely connected patterns up to 10 cells have all been investigated.

Also use RLE

thanks for the info. i made a post on a different section (unsure discoveries) after deciding that one is better, so I will have to wait for the same reply there too I guess. I must have missed it on B-heptomino because it is not shown immediately apon looking on the page

Also why did you consider it as a methuselah? It is not even as long lived as random scribble.

Maybe one can compile the distribution of lifetimes of random scribbles of various lengths, so that we have a concrete criterion for separating methuselahs from non-methuselahs: one can thus, for example, say a particular pattern is so long-lived that the probability of a random scribble of comparable length having that long lifetime is < 0.001, so it deserves to be called a methuselah, while another only outlives 70% of random scribbles involving that many cells and is definitely not a methuselah.

[Hunting]

thanks for the info. i made a post on a different section (unsure discoveries) after deciding that one is better, so I will have to wait for the same reply there too I guess. I must have missed it on B-heptomino because it is not shown immediately apon looking on the page

Also why did you consider it as a methuselah? It is not even as long lived as random scribble.

Maybe one can compile the distribution of lifetimes of random scribbles of various lengths, so that we have a concrete criterion for separating methuselahs from non-methuselahs: one can thus, for example, say a particular pattern is so long-lived that the probability of a random scribble of comparable length having that long lifetime is < 0.001, so it deserves to be called a methuselah, while another only outlives 70% of random scribbles involving that many cells and is definitely not a methuselah.

Or rather, random soups (of various symmetry). If someone did try I'd love to see the result.

[dvgrn]

Or rather, random soups (of various symmetry). If someone did try I'd love to see the result.

Random soups are already being catalogued -- or rather, Catagolued -- at least for C1. The distribution follows a fairly nice curve, with the usual statistical weirdness in the last few bins.

Other symmetries would be a little harder to do methuselanalysis on, I think, because strange long-lived things like kaleidoscopic switch-engine arrangements tend to show up more often.