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Re: Find the puffer

Post by MathAndCode » November 24th, 2020, 3:37 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 3:16 pm
Yes.
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » November 24th, 2020, 3:40 pm

MathAndCode wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 3:37 pm
 Were they MWSSes?
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by MathAndCode » November 24th, 2020, 3:44 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 3:40 pm
Yes.
Were they on opposite sides?
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » November 24th, 2020, 3:45 pm

MathAndCode wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 3:44 pm
 Were they on opposite sides?
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by MathAndCode » November 24th, 2020, 4:53 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 3:45 pm
Yes.
Did they have the same phase or opposite phases?
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » November 24th, 2020, 4:59 pm

MathAndCode wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 4:53 pm
 Did they have the same phase or opposite phases?
Same phase, though I'm not telling you if they were mirrored or not.
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by wwei23 » November 24th, 2020, 5:22 pm

I understand your objections to me just designing puffers to match your output. But I would like to point out that this forms the output more directly, by using sparks to transform gliders into the output instead of just synthesizing the output with gliders.

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x = 536, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
292b4o$292bo3bo$292bo$293bo2bo$100b4o179b4o$100bo3bo178bo3bo$100bo182b
o7b2o$101bo2bo179bo2bo2b4o$91b4o99b4o91b2o3bo$91bo3bo98bo3bo85bo2bo2b
4o97bobo$91bo102bo88bo7b2o97bo2bo$92bo2bo2b2o95bo2bo84bo3bo101b2o$97b
3o85b4o94b4o101bo$92bo2bo2b2o7b2o76bo3bo111b2o84b4o$91bo17bo75bo115bob
o82bo4bo6bo$91bo3bo11b2o77bo2bo2b2o107bo84bo2bo5b2obo$91b4o96b3o192bo
2bo5bo$186bo2bo2b2o7b2o78b2o104bo7bo$108b2o75bo17bo76b2ob2o103b4obo$
108bobo74bo3bo11b2o78b4o20b2o82bo3bo$108bo76b4o93b2o20b2ob4o68b6o5bo$
89b2o214b6o68bo5bo4b5o$88b2ob2o109b2o88b2o12b4o12bo56bo$89b4o20b2o87bo
bo61b4o22bobo26bo58bo4bo4b5o$90b2o20b2ob4o83bo63bo3bo21bo28b3o58b2o6bo
$113b6o10bo53b2o81bo7bo114bo3bo$114b4o10bo53b2ob2o80bo2bo2b7o108b4obo$
74b4o21b2o27b3o52b4o20b2o63b2ob3o2bo106bo7bo$74bo3bo10bo9bobo4bo77b2o
20b2ob4o54bo2bo2b7o71bo34bo2bo4bo3bo$74bo7b2o4bobo8bo6bo100b6o10bo42bo
7bo76b3o32bo2bo5bo2bo$75bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o115b4o10bo43bo3bo11b3o22bobo
36bo31b2o6bo4bo3bobo$80b2o3bo5bob2o73b4o21b2o27b3o41b4o37bo2bo34b3obo
4bo21bo4bo5b4o$75bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o75bo3bo10bo9bobo4bo102b2obo3bo33bo3bo
4bo21bo12bo5b3o$74bo7b2o4bobo14b3o60bo7b2o4bobo8bo6bo104bob3o35b2o3b3o
22bo5bo7bobo2b2o$74bo3bo10bo15b2o62bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o91b5o32b4o27b3obo
24b6o8b3o2b2o8b4o$74b4o32b2ob2o59b2o3bo5bob2o89bo4bo31bo3bo27bo40b2o4b
o8b6o$102bo7bo3b2o53bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o91bo36bo7b2o63bo5b2o6b2ob4o$102bo
7b5o53bo7b2o4bobo14b3o77bo3bo32bo2bo2b4o62bo3bo10b2o$86b5o20b2o55bo3bo
10bo15b2o80bo5b2o32b2o3bo62bo3b2obobo$86bo4bo16bo2b2o55b4o32b2ob2o77b
2ob2o25bo2bo2b4o24bo39b2o3b2obo$86bo21bo87bo7bo3b2o77b4o24bo7b2o22bob
3o23b6o12b2obo2b2o5b2o$87bo3bo104bo7b5o79b2o25bo3bo25b3o3b2o22bo5bo11b
obob2ob2o4bo$58b4o27bo5b2o83b5o20b2o108b4o25bo4bo3bo21bo17b2o4b2obob2o
bo$58bo3bo31b2ob2o48bo32bo4bo16bo2b2o118bo2bo14bo4bob3o23bo4bo12b3obo
3bob2obo$58bo36b4o47bo33bo21bo121bo26bo26b2o16bobo7bo$59bo2bo33b2o48b
3o32bo3bo138bo3bo15b3o$22b2o25b4o110b4o16bo5b2o133b4o18bo69b2o34b2o34b
2o34b2o$21b4o24bo3bo109bo3bo20b2ob2o48bo138b2o33bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32b
o2bo$20b2ob2o24bo7bo105bo25b4o47bo139b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$15bo5b2o
27bo2bo2b6o4b2o96bo2bo22b2o48b3o$13bo3bo37b2ob3o2bo2b3o$12bo37bo2bo2b
7obob3o$12bo4bo31bo7bo4b3obo10b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o
34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$12b5o32bo3bo10b2o10bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2b
o32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo$23b3o
23b4o24b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o
$22bo3bo$4o18b2ob2o$o3bo9bo$o11b2o$bo2bo2b2o5b3o6bo121b4o24b2o34b2o34b
2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$6b3o6b3ob2obobo120bo3bo10b
2o10bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20b
o2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo$bo2bo2b2o5b5o2bob3o39bo2bo76bo7b
o4b3obo10b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b
2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o$o11b2o3bo3bob3o38bo81bo2bo2b7obob
3o128bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo$o3bo9bo8b2o39bo3b
o82b2ob3o2bo2b3o129b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$4o14b2ob2o41b4o
78bo2bo2b6o4b2o$20bo19b4o101bo7bo105bo$39b6o100bo3bo108b3o$16b2o12bo7b
2ob4o100b4o97b4o8bo2b2o36b2o34b2o$15b4o11bobo6b2o9b3o102bo2bo87bo3bo8b
o3bo35bobo33bobo$14b2ob2o11b2o18bo103bo91bo17bo35bo35b2o$15b2o34bo102b
o3bo88bo2bo2b2o6bobo$154b4o94b3o66b2o26b2o$247bo2bo2b2o57bobo4bo4bo15b
obo4bo4bo$246bo62bobo2bo3bo6bo11bobo2bo3bo6bo$246bo3bo57bo2bo6bo6bo10b
o2bo6bo6bo$17b4o225b4o57b2o4bo4bobo2b3o9b2o4bo4bobo2b3o$17bo3bo234bo2b
o46bo6bo2bo17bo6bo2bo$17bo7bo229bo49b4o4b2obo2bo6bo6b4o4b2obo2bo6bo$
18bo2bo2b7o224bo3bo44bo4bo14bo3bo3bo4bo14bo3bo$23b2ob3o2bo223b4o45bo2b
o5b5o5bo8bo2bo5b5o5bo$18bo2bo2b7o273bo2bo5bo9bo4bo3bo2bo5bo9bo4bo$17bo
7bo279bo7bobo7b5o5bo7bobo7b5o$17bo3bo284b4obo22b4obo$17b4o286bo3bo2bo
20bo3bo2bo$27bo2bo277bo27bo$26bo281b5o23b5o$26bo3bo$26b4o278b5o23b5o$
308bo27bo$307bo3bo23bo3bo$306b4obo22b4obo$305bo7bo19bo7bo$304bo2bo5bo
18bo2bo5bo$304bo2bo5b2obo15bo2bo5b2obo$304bo4bo6bo15bo4bo6bo$305b4o24b
4o$306bo27bo$307b2o26b2o$308bo2bo24bo2bo$309bobo25bobo!
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » November 24th, 2020, 5:26 pm

wwei23 wrote: ↑
November 24th, 2020, 5:22 pm
 I understand your objections to me just designing puffers to match your output. But I would like to point out that this forms the output more directly, by using sparks to transform gliders into the output instead of just synthesizing the output with gliders.

Code: Select all

x = 536, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
292b4o$292bo3bo$292bo$293bo2bo$100b4o179b4o$100bo3bo178bo3bo$100bo182b
o7b2o$101bo2bo179bo2bo2b4o$91b4o99b4o91b2o3bo$91bo3bo98bo3bo85bo2bo2b
4o97bobo$91bo102bo88bo7b2o97bo2bo$92bo2bo2b2o95bo2bo84bo3bo101b2o$97b
3o85b4o94b4o101bo$92bo2bo2b2o7b2o76bo3bo111b2o84b4o$91bo17bo75bo115bob
o82bo4bo6bo$91bo3bo11b2o77bo2bo2b2o107bo84bo2bo5b2obo$91b4o96b3o192bo
2bo5bo$186bo2bo2b2o7b2o78b2o104bo7bo$108b2o75bo17bo76b2ob2o103b4obo$
108bobo74bo3bo11b2o78b4o20b2o82bo3bo$108bo76b4o93b2o20b2ob4o68b6o5bo$
89b2o214b6o68bo5bo4b5o$88b2ob2o109b2o88b2o12b4o12bo56bo$89b4o20b2o87bo
bo61b4o22bobo26bo58bo4bo4b5o$90b2o20b2ob4o83bo63bo3bo21bo28b3o58b2o6bo
$113b6o10bo53b2o81bo7bo114bo3bo$114b4o10bo53b2ob2o80bo2bo2b7o108b4obo$
74b4o21b2o27b3o52b4o20b2o63b2ob3o2bo106bo7bo$74bo3bo10bo9bobo4bo77b2o
20b2ob4o54bo2bo2b7o71bo34bo2bo4bo3bo$74bo7b2o4bobo8bo6bo100b6o10bo42bo
7bo76b3o32bo2bo5bo2bo$75bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o115b4o10bo43bo3bo11b3o22bobo
36bo31b2o6bo4bo3bobo$80b2o3bo5bob2o73b4o21b2o27b3o41b4o37bo2bo34b3obo
4bo21bo4bo5b4o$75bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o75bo3bo10bo9bobo4bo102b2obo3bo33bo3bo
4bo21bo12bo5b3o$74bo7b2o4bobo14b3o60bo7b2o4bobo8bo6bo104bob3o35b2o3b3o
22bo5bo7bobo2b2o$74bo3bo10bo15b2o62bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o91b5o32b4o27b3obo
24b6o8b3o2b2o8b4o$74b4o32b2ob2o59b2o3bo5bob2o89bo4bo31bo3bo27bo40b2o4b
o8b6o$102bo7bo3b2o53bo2bo2b4o3bo2b2o91bo36bo7b2o63bo5b2o6b2ob4o$102bo
7b5o53bo7b2o4bobo14b3o77bo3bo32bo2bo2b4o62bo3bo10b2o$86b5o20b2o55bo3bo
10bo15b2o80bo5b2o32b2o3bo62bo3b2obobo$86bo4bo16bo2b2o55b4o32b2ob2o77b
2ob2o25bo2bo2b4o24bo39b2o3b2obo$86bo21bo87bo7bo3b2o77b4o24bo7b2o22bob
3o23b6o12b2obo2b2o5b2o$87bo3bo104bo7b5o79b2o25bo3bo25b3o3b2o22bo5bo11b
obob2ob2o4bo$58b4o27bo5b2o83b5o20b2o108b4o25bo4bo3bo21bo17b2o4b2obob2o
bo$58bo3bo31b2ob2o48bo32bo4bo16bo2b2o118bo2bo14bo4bob3o23bo4bo12b3obo
3bob2obo$58bo36b4o47bo33bo21bo121bo26bo26b2o16bobo7bo$59bo2bo33b2o48b
3o32bo3bo138bo3bo15b3o$22b2o25b4o110b4o16bo5b2o133b4o18bo69b2o34b2o34b
2o34b2o$21b4o24bo3bo109bo3bo20b2ob2o48bo138b2o33bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32b
o2bo$20b2ob2o24bo7bo105bo25b4o47bo139b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$15bo5b2o
27bo2bo2b6o4b2o96bo2bo22b2o48b3o$13bo3bo37b2ob3o2bo2b3o$12bo37bo2bo2b
7obob3o$12bo4bo31bo7bo4b3obo10b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o
34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$12b5o32bo3bo10b2o10bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2b
o32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo$23b3o
23b4o24b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o
$22bo3bo$4o18b2ob2o$o3bo9bo$o11b2o$bo2bo2b2o5b3o6bo121b4o24b2o34b2o34b
2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$6b3o6b3ob2obobo120bo3bo10b
2o10bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20b
o2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo11bo20bo2bo$bo2bo2b2o5b5o2bob3o39bo2bo76bo7b
o4b3obo10b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b
2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o11bobo20b2o$o11b2o3bo3bob3o38bo81bo2bo2b7obob
3o128bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo32bo2bo$o3bo9bo8b2o39bo3b
o82b2ob3o2bo2b3o129b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$4o14b2ob2o41b4o
78bo2bo2b6o4b2o$20bo19b4o101bo7bo105bo$39b6o100bo3bo108b3o$16b2o12bo7b
2ob4o100b4o97b4o8bo2b2o36b2o34b2o$15b4o11bobo6b2o9b3o102bo2bo87bo3bo8b
o3bo35bobo33bobo$14b2ob2o11b2o18bo103bo91bo17bo35bo35b2o$15b2o34bo102b
o3bo88bo2bo2b2o6bobo$154b4o94b3o66b2o26b2o$247bo2bo2b2o57bobo4bo4bo15b
obo4bo4bo$246bo62bobo2bo3bo6bo11bobo2bo3bo6bo$246bo3bo57bo2bo6bo6bo10b
o2bo6bo6bo$17b4o225b4o57b2o4bo4bobo2b3o9b2o4bo4bobo2b3o$17bo3bo234bo2b
o46bo6bo2bo17bo6bo2bo$17bo7bo229bo49b4o4b2obo2bo6bo6b4o4b2obo2bo6bo$
18bo2bo2b7o224bo3bo44bo4bo14bo3bo3bo4bo14bo3bo$23b2ob3o2bo223b4o45bo2b
o5b5o5bo8bo2bo5b5o5bo$18bo2bo2b7o273bo2bo5bo9bo4bo3bo2bo5bo9bo4bo$17bo
7bo279bo7bobo7b5o5bo7bobo7b5o$17bo3bo284b4obo22b4obo$17b4o286bo3bo2bo
20bo3bo2bo$27bo2bo277bo27bo$26bo281b5o23b5o$26bo3bo$26b4o278b5o23b5o$
308bo27bo$307bo3bo23bo3bo$306b4obo22b4obo$305bo7bo19bo7bo$304bo2bo5bo
18bo2bo5bo$304bo2bo5b2obo15bo2bo5b2obo$304bo4bo6bo15bo4bo6bo$305b4o24b
4o$306bo27bo$307b2o26b2o$308bo2bo24bo2bo$309bobo25bobo!
Ok, maybe with other examples non-direct synth puffers can be accepted but we're already very close to finding my puffer, so let's please keep on with it. Look above.
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » December 30th, 2020, 12:45 pm

Please look here. (Sorry about the double post.)
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by MathAndCode » December 30th, 2020, 3:10 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑
December 30th, 2020, 12:45 pm
 Please look here. (Sorry about the double post.)
I did a while ago, but I didn't make any progress.
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Re: Find the puffer

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » December 30th, 2020, 3:53 pm

MathAndCode wrote: ↑
December 30th, 2020, 3:10 pm
 I did a while ago, but I didn't make any progress.
Ok then, the MWSSs were not mirrored.
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