Coexistence

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Re: Coexistence

Post by breaker's glider gun » March 4th, 2023, 1:26 am

C_R_116 wrote:
March 3rd, 2023, 8:48 pm
Figure Eight is acting strange:

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$8o$8o$8o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$8o4b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$16b4o$4b4o$
4b4o$4b4o$4b4o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$8b4o4b8o$16b8o$16b8o$16b8o$
16b8o!
More figure-eighty:

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5b2ob4ob2o$4b12o$4b12o$5b2ob4ob2o$b2obo2b2o2b2o2bo$4o$4o$b2obo2b2o2b2o
2bo$5o2b2o2bo4b4o$4o12b4o$4o12b4o$5o2b2o2bo4b4o$b2obo2bo5b2o5b4o$4o8b
4o4b4o$4o8b4o4b4o$b2obo2bo5b2o5b4o$8b4o5b2o5bo2bob2o$8b4o4b4o8b4o$8b4o
4b4o8b4o$8b4o5b2o5bo2bob2o$12b4o4bo2b2o2b5o$12b4o12b4o$12b4o12b4o$12b
4o4bo2b2o2b5o$16bo2b2o2b2o2bob2o$28b4o$28b4o$16bo2b2o2b2o2bob2o$17b2o
b4ob2o$16b12o$16b12o$17b2ob4ob2o!
:?: :?: . . . :!:
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Re: Coexistence

Post by FWKnightship » March 4th, 2023, 9:51 am

Gliders made up of blocks and dominoes: (in the original rule)

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x = 31, y = 14, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
25b2o$4b2o3$2o2b2o2b2o11b2o2b2o$2o2b2o15b2o2b2o2b2o3$2o19b2o6b2o$2o6b
2o11b2o3$4b2o$25b2o!
24c/12:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o2b2o2b2o$4b2o2b2o2b2o3$2o10b2o$2o10b2o3$2o2b2o6bo4bo$2o2b2o6bo4bo
3$9bo$9bo3$9bo$9bo!
How did I found it:

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x = 31, y = 31, rule = DominoCoexistence
5A.A.B2AC3A.3AC2AB.A.5A$3A2.A2.2A2.2C3.2C2.2A2.A2.3A$2A3.2A2.5A3.5A2.
2A3.2A$A4.AB.2A.A2.3A2.A.2A.BA4.A$A3.3A.3A2.A3.A2.3A.3A3.A$.4A.B.C2A
3.3A3.2AC.B.4A$A.ABAB3A.3A.A.A.3A.3ABABA.A$6.A2.2A3.A.A3.2A2.A$BA.2AC
A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.AC2A.AB$6A.2A.A.A5.A.A.2A.6A$A.A.4A.A2.B2A.2AB2.A.
4A.A.A$C.2A2.A4.A.5A.A4.A2.2A.C$ACA3.A.2AB3.ABA3.B2A.A3.ACA$ACA.A5.2A
.5A.2A5.A.ACA$A2.A.3A2.4AC.C4A2.3A.A2.A$3.A.A2.A2.ABA3.ABA2.A2.A.A$A
2.A.3A2.4AC.C4A2.3A.A2.A$ACA.A5.2A.5A.2A5.A.ACA$ACA3.A.2AB3.ABA3.B2A.
A3.ACA$C.2A2.A4.A.5A.A4.A2.2A.C$A.A.4A.A2.B2A.2AB2.A.4A.A.A$6A.2A.A.A
5.A.A.2A.6A$BA.2ACA2.A2.A2.A2.A2.A2.AC2A.AB$6.A2.2A3.A.A3.2A2.A$A.ABA
B3A.3A.A.A.3A.3ABABA.A$.4A.B.C2A3.3A3.2AC.B.4A$A3.3A.3A2.A3.A2.3A.3A
3.A$A4.AB.2A.A2.3A2.A.2A.BA4.A$2A3.2A2.5A3.5A2.2A3.2A$3A2.A2.2A2.2C3.
2C2.2A2.A2.3A$5A.A.B2AC3A.3AC2AB.A.5A!
@RULE DominoCoexistence

@TREE

num_states=4
num_neighbors=8
num_nodes=214
1 0 1 0 0
1 0 0 0 0
1 0 3 0 0
1 0 2 0 0
2 0 1 2 3
1 0 1 2 3
1 0 2 2 0
1 0 3 0 3
2 1 5 6 7
1 0 1 2 0
2 2 6 9 1
1 0 1 0 3
2 3 7 1 11
3 4 8 10 12
1 1 1 3 2
1 2 1 0 1
1 3 1 1 0
2 5 14 15 16
1 2 2 0 2
2 6 15 18 5
1 3 3 3 0
2 7 16 5 20
3 8 17 19 21
1 2 1 0 2
2 9 18 23 6
3 10 19 24 8
1 3 1 3 0
2 11 20 7 26
3 12 21 8 27
4 13 22 25 28
2 14 1 20 18
2 15 20 7 14
2 16 18 14 6
3 17 30 31 32
2 18 7 1 15
3 19 31 34 17
2 20 6 16 1
3 21 32 17 36
4 22 33 35 37
2 23 1 2 18
3 24 34 39 19
4 25 35 40 22
2 26 1 20 3
3 27 36 21 42
4 28 37 22 43
5 29 38 41 44
2 1 1 1 1
2 20 1 20 1
2 18 1 1 18
3 30 46 47 48
2 7 20 7 20
3 31 47 50 30
2 6 18 18 6
3 32 48 30 52
4 33 49 51 53
2 1 7 1 7
3 34 50 55 31
4 35 51 56 33
2 1 6 6 1
3 36 52 32 58
4 37 53 33 59
5 38 54 57 60
2 2 1 2 1
3 39 55 62 34
4 40 56 63 35
5 41 57 64 38
2 3 1 1 3
3 42 58 36 66
4 43 59 37 67
5 44 60 38 68
6 45 61 65 69
3 46 46 46 46
3 47 46 47 46
3 48 46 46 48
4 49 71 72 73
3 50 47 50 47
4 51 72 75 49
3 52 48 48 52
4 53 73 49 77
5 54 74 76 78
3 55 50 55 50
4 56 75 80 51
5 57 76 81 54
3 58 52 52 58
4 59 77 53 83
5 60 78 54 84
6 61 79 82 85
3 62 55 62 55
4 63 80 87 56
5 64 81 88 57
6 65 82 89 61
3 66 58 58 66
4 67 83 59 91
5 68 84 60 92
6 69 85 61 93
7 70 86 90 94
1 0 0 1 1
1 0 0 2 2
1 0 0 3 3
2 1 96 97 98
2 1 97 97 1
2 1 98 1 98
3 46 99 100 101
3 46 100 100 46
3 46 101 46 101
4 71 102 103 104
1 3 3 1 2
2 20 97 106 1
3 47 100 107 46
4 72 103 108 71
1 2 2 3 1
2 18 98 1 110
3 48 101 46 111
4 73 104 71 112
5 74 105 109 113
1 0 3 2 1
2 7 106 115 20
3 50 107 116 47
4 75 108 117 72
5 76 109 118 74
1 0 2 1 3
2 6 110 18 120
3 52 111 48 121
4 77 112 73 122
5 78 113 74 123
6 79 114 119 124
2 1 115 97 7
3 55 116 126 50
4 80 117 127 75
5 81 118 128 76
6 82 119 129 79
2 1 120 6 98
3 58 121 52 131
4 83 122 77 132
5 84 123 78 133
6 85 124 79 134
7 86 125 130 135
1 0 3 2 2
2 2 97 137 1
3 62 126 138 55
4 87 127 139 80
5 88 128 140 81
6 89 129 141 82
7 90 130 142 86
1 0 2 3 3
2 3 98 1 144
3 66 131 58 145
4 91 132 83 146
5 92 133 84 147
6 93 134 85 148
7 94 135 86 149
8 95 136 143 150
2 96 1 98 97
2 97 98 1 96
2 98 97 96 1
3 99 152 153 154
2 97 1 1 97
3 100 153 156 99
2 98 1 98 1
3 101 154 99 158
4 102 155 157 159
3 100 156 156 100
4 103 157 161 102
3 101 158 101 158
4 104 159 102 163
5 105 160 162 164
2 106 1 20 97
3 107 156 166 100
4 108 161 167 103
5 109 162 168 105
2 110 1 98 18
3 111 158 101 170
4 112 163 104 171
5 113 164 105 172
6 114 165 169 173
2 115 20 7 106
3 116 166 175 107
4 117 167 176 108
5 118 168 177 109
6 119 169 178 114
2 120 18 110 6
3 121 170 111 180
4 122 171 112 181
5 123 172 113 182
6 124 173 114 183
7 125 174 179 184
2 97 7 1 115
3 126 175 186 116
4 127 176 187 117
5 128 177 188 118
6 129 178 189 119
7 130 179 190 125
2 98 6 120 1
3 131 180 121 192
4 132 181 122 193
5 133 182 123 194
6 134 183 124 195
7 135 184 125 196
8 136 185 191 197
2 137 1 2 97
3 138 186 199 126
4 139 187 200 127
5 140 188 201 128
6 141 189 202 129
7 142 190 203 130
8 143 191 204 136
2 144 1 98 3
3 145 192 131 206
4 146 193 132 207
5 147 194 133 208
6 148 195 134 209
7 149 196 135 210
8 150 197 136 211
9 151 198 205 212
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'FWKnightship' object has no attribute 'signature'

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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 » August 7th, 2023, 8:53 pm

Toad conversion:

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 x = 22, y = 21, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
19bobo$19b2o$20bo4$bo$obo$bo2$bo3bo$obobobo$bo3bo2$bo3bo$obobobo$bo3b
o2$5bo$4bobo$5bo!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Coexistence

Post by unname4798 » August 24th, 2023, 2:43 pm

Really weird happening:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$2obo$ob2o$4o$4o4b4o$2obo4b2obo$ob2o4bob2o$4o4b4o$8o$2ob3obo$ob3ob2o
$8o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$8o$4o4b4o$ob2o4bob2o$2obo4b2obo$4o4b4o$4o$ob2o$2ob
o$4o!
EDIT: nevermind, fixed
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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 » August 24th, 2023, 5:11 pm

unname4798 wrote:
August 24th, 2023, 2:43 pm
Really weird happening:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4o$2obo$ob2o$4o$4o4b4o$2obo4b2obo$ob2o4bob2o$4o4b4o$8o$2ob3obo$ob3ob2o
$8o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
8o$ob3ob2o$2ob3obo$8o$4o4b4o$ob2o4bob2o$2obo4b2obo$4o4b4o$4o$ob2o$2ob
o$4o!
That’s because HROT somehow got broken.
Proof:

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 x = 116, y = 16, rule = R4,C2,S2-3,21-26,30-35,B3,27-32,NW090000000900000009000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010101000000090000010001000009000000010101000000000000000000000000000000000000000000090000000900000009
68b4o$68b4o$68b4o$68b4o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o32b8o$8o60b8o
32b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$8o64b8o28b8o$68b8o$68b8o
$68b8o$68b8o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 » August 29th, 2023, 11:18 am

I know this a a doublepost, but weird class 4A glider:

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 x = 12, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
4b2o$4bo$4bo2bo$4b4o$8b2o$8bo$8bo2bo$8b4o$2o2b2o2b2o$o3bo3bo$o2b2o2b2o
2bo$12o!
Edit: cursed trivial P6

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 x = 11, y = 12, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3b8o$3bo2b5o$3bo2b5o3$o$2o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Coexistence

Post by Haycat2009 » December 16th, 2023, 9:41 am

Just curious: Is the weighted neighbourhood the same as NF?
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Re: Coexistence

Post by hotcrystal0 » January 23rd, 2024, 6:41 pm

Ohhhhhhhhh wrote:
September 12th, 2022, 2:31 am
Here's a rule which simulates B3/S23 completely in 2*2, but failed to do so (at all) in 1*1.
It's notable that 2*2 neigbhourhood are usually even harder to design since it's really close to 1*1.
R2,C2,S2,17-21,24-29,B3,21-26,NW7070701110710170111070707
There must be some better ways to do this, but I can't think of any other weights.
The rule only contains one common 1*1 object - the blinker which works the same as in Life.
blocks and especially ships are strong catalysts to 1*1 cells (comparingly better).
Sorry if I'm posting something useless/off-topic.
Here’s a more active version of the rule:

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x = 22, y = 39, rule = R2,C2,S2,7,17-21,24-29,B3,6,10,20-26,NW7070701110710170111070707
4b2o$4b2o$6o$6o$2o2b2o$2o2b2o$2o$2o26$16b4o$16b4o$16b2o2b2o$16b2o2b2o
$16b2o$16b2o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Coexistence

Post by b-engine » January 30th, 2024, 6:48 am

A shuttle-like oscillator somehow appeared in nbsearch2:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = R4,C0,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
5bo2$5bo$4bobo$o3b2ob2o$4bobo$5bo2$5bo!
EDIT:
Big pentadecathlon works, but small one doesn't:

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x = 40, y = 44, rule = R4,C2,S9,14,16-17,21,23-24,30-31,37-38,44-45,51-52,58-59,B3,10,17,21,24,31,38,45,52,59,NW100010001000000000000000000000777000100707001000777000000000000000000000100010001
17bo4bo$15b2ob4ob2o$17bo4bo30$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o
$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8o4b16o4b8o$8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o$
8b4o16b4o$8b4o16b4o!
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