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amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 6th, 2023, 8:22 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2023, 5:53 am
 Did you already try to search for c/6 ant eater? An ant stretcher maybe is too ambitious.
I ran f2b backs first, both asymmetric and even symmetric. Longest partial was even symmetric:

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x = 24, y = 98, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$
10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo
2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$
11b2o$10bo2bo$10bo2bo2$11b2o$6b3o2b2o2b3o$7bo2b4o2bo$7bob2o2b2obo$3bo
5bo4bo5bo$3b3obobo4bobob3o$7b3o4b3o$2bo5bo6bo5bo$3o8b2o8b3o$2o2b2o2bo
6bo2b2o2b2o$bo2b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o2bo$9b2o2b2o$3b2o2bobo4bobo2b2o$6bo10bo$
2b2ob2o2bob2obo2b2ob2o$obo3bobo2b2o2bobo3bobo$b2obobob8obobob2o$bo2bob
ob2o4b2obobo2bo$2bobo14bobo$2bobo14bobo$3b2ob2o8b2ob2o$3bo3b3o4b3o3bo$
9b2o2b2o$bobo7b2o7bobo$b2o6b2o2b2o6b2o$b2o4bob2o2b2obo4b2o$8b8o$8bo6bo
$8bo6bo$6b3o6b3o$5bo4b4o4bo$4bobo10bobo$3b2o3bob4obo3b2o$2b2o3b2ob4ob
2o3b2o$7b3o4b3o$7b2o6b2o$5b5o4b5o$4b2obo8bob2o$3bo3bo2bo2bo2bo3bo$3bob
2o4b2o4b2obo$2bo2bo2bobo2bobo2bo2bo$9bo4bo$bo3bo12bo3bo$b5o5b2o5b5o$5b
o5b2o5bo$5bo12bo$b5o2b2o4b2o2b5o$bo3b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3bo$3b4o3bo2bo3b4o$
3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$2o7bo4bo7b2o$4o2b2o8b2o2b4o$bo4bo2bob2obo2bo4bo$b4o
b2o3b2o3b2ob4o$bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o2bo$b2o2b2o2bo4bo2b2o2b2o$2b2o16b2o
$2b2obo3b2o2b2o3bob2o!
There is also s2s which I only tried a very small search of so far:

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x = 34, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$
15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo
2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$
16b2o$15bo2bo$15bo2bo2$16b2o$9b3o4b2o4b3o$2b4o9bo2bo9b4o$2b2obo2bo4bo
2b2o2bo4bo2bob2o$o2b2ob4o4bo4bo4b4ob2o2bo$b2obo5b2obo6bob2o5bob2o$obob
2obo18bob2obobo!
Big s2s search and front searches TBD, but it may be a while as I'm traveling (flying out tonight) for the next month or so and won't have access to anything. Searches should run in my absence but I won't see their results until I get back.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 28th, 2023, 1:57 pm

amling wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2023, 8:22 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2023, 5:53 am
 Did you already try to search for c/6 ant eater? An ant stretcher maybe is too ambitious.
Big s2s search and front searches TBD, but it may be a while as I'm traveling (flying out tonight) for the next month or so and won't have access to anything. Searches should run in my absence but I won't see their results until I get back.
Longest front partial was even:

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x = 16, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
2obo8bob2o$bo3bo4bo3bo$5bo4bo$o2b4o2b4o2bo$bo2bo6bo2bo$2ob2ob4ob2ob2o$
2obo2bo2bo2bob2o$2bo10bo$4b8o$bo3b2o2b2o3bo$bobo3b2o3bobo$2b5o2b5o$2bo
10bo$3b2obo2bob2o$3b2obo2bob2o$5b6o2$2bob2ob2ob2obo$2b2ob2o2b2ob2o$2bo
2bo4bo2bo$3bo8bo$2bobo6bobo$3ob3o2b3ob3o$3ob2o4b2ob3o$b2o4b2o4b2o$2b2o
8b2o$3bo8bo$4bo6bo$5b6o$2b3o6b3o$bo2bo2b2o2bo2bo$2b2o8b2o$2bo2bob2obo
2bo$3bo2b4o2bo$3b2obo2bob2o2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo
$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$
6bo2bo$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo2$7b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$6bo2bo!
Far behind that was this longest asymmetric partial:

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x = 17, y = 87, rule = B3/S23
5$b2o2b2o$6bobo$b3o3bo$5bobo$bo2b5o$7bo$2b2obobo$4b3o$6bo$4b3o$3bo2bo
2$3b2o3bo$3b2o3bo$5bo2bo$4bo2bo$2b3ob2o$5b2o$2bobo$3b3o2b2o$5bob3o$4bo
3bo$6bo$3bo$4b2ob2o$6bo$5bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo
2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b
2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo2$5b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 29th, 2023, 2:11 pm

amling wrote: ↑
October 6th, 2023, 8:22 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
October 5th, 2023, 5:53 am
 Did you already try to search for c/6 ant eater? An ant stretcher maybe is too ambitious.
Big s2s search ... TBD...
I ran searches with wildcards for the center until those filled memory and died, then ran whatever the best choice for wildcards had been separately. Best front and back partials, shown together:

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x = 62, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
bo58bo$bo3bo50bo3bo$2o3b3o4bob2o30b2obo4b3o3b2o$obo3b2o4bobobobo3b3o
12b3o3bobobobo4b2o3bobo$bob3o2bo3bobobob2ob2obo2b2o4b2o2bob2ob2obobobo
3bo2b3obo$2ob2o3b2o5bo2b2obo2b3o2bo2bo2b3o2bob2o2bo5b2o3b2ob2o$o3bobob
o2bo2bo5bo2bob2ob2o2b2ob2obo2bo5bo2bo2bobobo3bo$o3bo4bob4o6b2o3bo2bo2b
o2bo3b2o6b4obo4bo3bo$b2ob2o7bo2b3o2bo3b3ob4ob3o3bo2b3o2bo7b2ob2o$b2ob
2ob4o8bob2o6bo2bo6b2obo8b4ob2ob2o$3bob3o3bo9bo7bo2bo7bo9bo3b3obo$16bo
28bo$30b2o$30b2o$29bo2bo$29bo2bo2$30b2o$30b2o$29bo2bo$29bo2bo2$30b2o$
30b2o$29bo2bo$29bo2bo2$2bo27b2o27bo$b2o27b2o27b2o$b2o4b3o2b4o5bob2o4bo
2bo4b2obo5b4o2b3o4b2o$b2o2bob6o3bo2b3ob2o4bo2bo4b2ob3o2bo3b6obo2b2o$3b
ob2o3bo5bobo6bo10bo6bobo5bo3b2obo$bo4b2ob2obobobob2obobo2bo3b2o3bo2bob
ob2obobobob2ob2o4bo$3bobo4b4ob3obobo4b2ob4ob2o4bobob3ob4o4bobo$bo3b2ob
o2b2o3b2o2b2o5b8o5b2o2b2o3b2o2bob2o3bo$5b2obo12b2o2bob2o4b2obo2b2o12bo
b2o$17bobo22bobo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 29th, 2023, 4:50 pm

I made a brief effort to produce an extremely high clearance version of the c/4d p28 puffer, but no luck:

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x = 18, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$7bo$o7bo2$3bo3bo$3ob3ob3o$obo2bo3b2o$3bo5b2o$3b3o3bo$4b4o2b2o$4b
2o3bob2o$4bo4bob2o$13bo$6b2obob3o$6b2ob5o$6bo2b2o$9bo6bo$10b3obo2bo$
10bobo2b3o$6b4o3bo$8bo4bo$3bo6bo$3bo3bo2bo2bo$5b3ob3obo$5b3o2bo2bo$6bo
bo3b2o$2b2obob2o2bobo$4bob3o2b2o$2b2o$7bo2b2o$6bob5o$2b6obobobo$4bo5b
3o!
I'm not even sure what we'd do with it if solved...
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 30th, 2023, 3:47 am

I tried to find a 5c/10 puffer of telegraph wire. Alas no luck on 5-fold period division (to strict c/2), perhaps unsurprisingly. Longest partial was odd:

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x = 5, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o2$bobo$b3o$b3o$2bo3$2ob2o$bobo$o3bo$bobo$2bo4$2bo$bobo$2ob2o$bobo
$bobo$bobo$bobo$2bo3$2bo$bobo$bobo$2bo2$2bo$bobo$bobo$2bo2$2bo$bobo$bo
bo$2bo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » October 31st, 2023, 3:52 am

An "upward" partial for a c/4d p8 back-rake, reduced from 2c/8d to c/4d for ~15 Y rows, but still incomplete, shown here in two opposite phases:

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x = 70, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
obo3bob2o4bo4bob3o16bobo3bob2o4bo4bob3o$5bo2bo5b3o2b2o24bo2bo5b3o2b2o$
bob4o4b4ob2obo3bo17bob4o4b4ob2obo3bo$bob2ob2obobo3b4ob3o18bob2ob2obobo
3b4ob3o$b2o3b2o4b2o6bo3bo16b2o3b2o4b2o6bo3bo$bo6bo7bo5bobo16bo6bo7bo5b
obo$2bo3bo4b2ob2ob4obo19bo3bo4b2ob2ob4obo$4b2o2bobo4b2ob3o23b2o2bobo4b
2ob3o$b3o4bo3b2obo25b3o4bo3b2obo$b5ob2o3bo4bobo21b5ob2o3bo4bobo$b2obo
3bo5bo3b2o21b2obo3bo5bo3b2o$4bo2b4o3bo3b2o24bo2b4o3bo3b2o$4b2o4b3o2b2o
27b2o4b3o2b2o$8bo2b2o2b2o31bo2b2o2b2o$8bo3bo3bo31bo3bo3bo$8bo39bo4bo$
10b2o38b4o$13bobo36bo$14b2o$14bo40bobo$56b2o$17bobo36bo$18b2o$18bo40bo
bo$60b2o$21bobo36bo$22b2o$22bo40bobo$64b2o$25bobo36bo$26b2o$26bo40bobo
$68b2o$29bobo36bo$30b2o$30bo!
I think it very likely this or a variant of it will be solvable (with only strict period 4 c/4d searches), but it is probably out of my reach before bedtime tonight.

EDIT: A somewhat longer, although unfortunately wider partial:

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x = 28, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bobo$4bo2$8b2o$8bobo$8bo2$12b2o$12bobo$12bo3bo$3bo5b2ob3ob3o$o3b
obobo3bo2b2o8bo$b9ob3o4bob2obo2b2o$11b2o2bob2o2bobob2o$3b6o2b2o6bo3bo$
3b6o3bo3b2obo3bo$9bob2o3bo6bo$7b2o6b2obobobo$5bobobo2b4ob3o$5bobobo5b
2o4bobo$5bobo3b4obo6bo$12bobobo3b2o$7bo2b2o7bo3b2o$6bo2b3o7b2ob3o$17bo
2bob3o$6bo2b2o5bobo2bo$8b2ob2o2b2o5b2obo$9b2o2bobob2o6bo$7bobo6b2o2bob
4o$7b2o2bo3bob2ob2o2b2o$6b2o3bo4bo2b2o4b2o$6b3obo3bobo4bobo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 2nd, 2023, 2:10 pm

amling wrote: ↑
October 29th, 2023, 4:50 pm
 I made a brief effort to produce an extremely high clearance version of the c/4d p28 puffer, but no luck:

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x = 18, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$7bo$o7bo2$3bo3bo$3ob3ob3o$obo2bo3b2o$3bo5b2o$3b3o3bo$4b4o2b2o$4b
2o3bob2o$4bo4bob2o$13bo$6b2obob3o$6b2ob5o$6bo2b2o$9bo6bo$10b3obo2bo$
10bobo2b3o$6b4o3bo$8bo4bo$3bo6bo$3bo3bo2bo2bo$5b3ob3obo$5b3o2bo2bo$6bo
bo3b2o$2b2obob2o2bobo$4bob3o2b2o$2b2o$7bo2b2o$6bob5o$2b6obobobo$4bo5b
3o!
I'm not even sure what we'd do with it if solved...
We could try to rub two engines against each other or rub the exhaust with other engines to get new puffer periods! I doubt I have enough computing power to advance, though
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 2nd, 2023, 2:14 pm

And I guess you already tried the analogous thing for a 2c/8 backwards LWSS rake, did you?
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 2nd, 2023, 5:27 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
November 2nd, 2023, 2:14 pm
 And I guess you already tried the analogous thing for a 2c/8 backwards LWSS rake, did you?
Did I do the math wrong? I didn't think a 2c/8 (or 2/c8d?) backwards LWSS rake was gonna fit.

A 4c/8 backwards LWSS rake is what my last desktop computer died working on so I had lost the idea in the shuffle for a long time. I did remember just recently (prompted similarly by this 2c/8d back rake) and have a note to revisit, especially with the huge changes in tools since then.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 2nd, 2023, 7:02 pm

I meant 4c/8 of course...
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 4th, 2023, 5:44 pm

It might be possible to build a 2c/8 against-the grain grey ship in a similar manner than the 2c/6 one:

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x = 150, y = 164, rule = B3/S23
3$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo23bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo23bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo2b23o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bob
27obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo39bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 6th, 2023, 11:32 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
November 4th, 2023, 5:44 pm
 It might be possible to build a 2c/8 against-the grain grey ship in a similar manner than the 2c/6 one:

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Of course, this is a remote idea.
That is definitely a good idea (added to search ideas notes), probably no more remote now than the original 2c/6 against-the-grain was when I first heard it.

EDIT: Even the first randomly-phased, extremely-thin, semi-preliminary search for a front corner has a hit that is 3 Y rows deep in strict c/4:

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I'm gonna let some more searches run before I move on to trying to complete a solution c/4, but I'm optimistic. I am also optimistic about the back corner, but that side corner has me worried (no help from symmetry and it was by far the hardest corner for the 2c/6 ship). Expect to hear more on this project later...
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 6th, 2023, 11:37 pm

I tried using symmetric wildcards to guess a front corner for a width 3 chickenwire ship and continue with a s2s search. I was hoping it would reach a second symmetric slice and thus provide a level front, but no dice. Longest partial was this GS even:

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EDIT: I also tried double-symmetric searches b2f from chicken wire agar. This was complicated by the existence of infinite repeating signals that searches tended to get gummed up on. I used LLSSS's "wrong answers only" mode to split the searches up a lot and discarded any that found the gummy problems. Of those that did not the longest partial found was:

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amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 7th, 2023, 2:37 am

HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
November 2nd, 2023, 2:14 pm
 And I guess you already tried the analogous thing for a [4]c/8 backwards LWSS rake, did you?
Alas no luck even on my fanciest computer. Longest partial for what I can afford to run:

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amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 7th, 2023, 5:27 pm

amling wrote: ↑
November 6th, 2023, 11:32 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
November 4th, 2023, 5:44 pm
 It might be possible to build a 2c/8 against-the grain grey ship in a similar manner than the 2c/6 one
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Even the first randomly-phased, extremely-thin, semi-preliminary search for a front corner has a hit that is 3 Y rows deep in strict c/4:

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The main body of searches for the front corner finished. I could maybe still do better by tuning the various knobs carefully but even the careless spray of choices produced extremely long (and I would say "healthy"-looking) strict c/4 partials for front corner:

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x = 128, y = 212, rule = B3/S23
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bo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3b2o4b2o4b2o3b2obobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bob2obobo2bobo
b2obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobob4obo12bob4obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo2b4obo6bob4o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bo12bo6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2obobobo4bobobob2obobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3bob2obo6bob2ob
o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
4b2o14b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobob3o4bo3b2o3bo4b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo4bo3bo2b4o2bo3bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo3bo6bo3bo3bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bo2bo2bo2bo6bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4b3ob
6ob3o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo2bobobo8bobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobo8bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4b3obob2o2b2obob3o4bobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3b2obobo4bobob
2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bob2o4bob3o2b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobob2obobo4bobob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bob2o6b2obo6bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3bo3bo8bo3bo3b2obobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3b2o12b
2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bob2o20b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobob4ob2o2b2o2b2ob4obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobob2o5b2o2b2o2b2o5b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6b2o6b2o6bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5b4o4b4o5bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bo3b2o
2b2o3bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobob2o5bob2obo5b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobob4o8b4obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b4o6b4o2bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3b2o8b2o3bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o
4b4o4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobob2o4bo2bo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4b2o2b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobo3b2o3bobo2bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o4bo4bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo3bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo8bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4b2o4bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o2b3o4b3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob4obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob4obobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
4obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$20bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo2b2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo6bobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bob6obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo14bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b
14o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo18bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo26bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo2b26o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo34bobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo2b34o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo38bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bob38obo2bo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b46o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo50bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b54o2bobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo58bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b58o2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo66bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b66o2bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo70bobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo2bob70obo2bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo78bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobo
bobobobobobobo2b78o2bobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobo
82bobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobo2b86o2bobobobobobobobobo
bo$obobobobobobobobobo90bobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobo2b90o2bo
bobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobo98bobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobo2b98o
2bobobobobobobo$obobobobobobo102bobobobobobobo$obobobobo2bob102obo2bob
obobobo$obobobobo110bobobobobo$obobobo2b110o2bobobobo$obobobo114bobobo
bo$obo2b118o2bobo$obo122bobo$o2b122o2bo2$128o2$128o2$128o2$128o2$128o
2$128o2$128o2$128o2$128o2$128o2$2b124o$bo124bo$bo2b120o2bo$bobo120bobo
$bobob118obobo$bobo120bobo$bobo2b116o2bobo$bobobo116bobobo$bobobo2b
112o2bobobo$bobobobo112bobobobo$bobobobo2b108o2bobobobo$bobobobobo108b
obobobobo$bobobobob110obobobobo$bobobobobo108bobobobobo$bobobobobo2b
104o2bobobobobo$bobobobobobo104bobobobobobo$bobobobobobo2b100o2bobobob
obobo$bobobobobobobo100bobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobo2b96o2bobobobobobo
bo$bobobobobobobobo96bobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobo2b96o2bobobobobobo
bo$bobobobobobobobo96bobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobo2b92o2bobobobobo
bobobo$bobobobobobobobobo92bobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobo2b88o
2bobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobo88bobobobobobobobobobo$bobobob
obobobobobobob86obobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobo88bobobobobo
bobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobo2b84o2bobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobo
bobobobobo84bobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobo2b80o2bobobob
obobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobo80bobobobobobobobobobobobo$bob
obobobobobobobobobobo2b76o2bobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo76bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobob78obobob
obobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobo76bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b72o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo72bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo2b68o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo68bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
2b64o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
64bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b64o
2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo64bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b60o2bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo60bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b56o
2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b48o2bobobobobobobobobobobobob
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40o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo32bobobobobobo
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obobobobobobo2b32o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobo
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bobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobob22obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobo
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo!
I'm gonna set this aside for a moment, assume back corner can work itself out, and go look at side corners which are of course the real problem...

EDIT: Alas no luck for side corner. 2c/8 s2s is just so tough. Searches found no strict c/4 slices, not even just 2 rows wide. Longest partial of anything I ran:

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 9th, 2023, 10:38 pm

No luck for 2c/7 ants for what I ran, neither front nor back. Longest partials (unsurprisingly) were even symmetric:

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x = 26, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
7bo10bo$6b2o2bo4bo2b2o$6bo2bo6bo2bo$8bobo4bobo$9bobo2bobo$6bob2o6b2obo
$6bo4b4o4bo$11b4o$6bo12bo$7b3obo2bob3o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo$9bob4obo$8bob2o
2b2obo$7bo10bo$7bo3bo2bo3bo$7bo2bob2obo2bo2$9b8o$10bo4bo$9b2o4b2o$8b3o
4b3o$8b2obo2bob2o2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$
11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b
2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11b
o2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo
2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$12b
2o$11bo2bo$11bo2bo2$12b2o$5b4o3b2o3b4o$4b4ob2o4b2ob4o$4bo5b6o5bo$5bobo
bo6bobobo$5bobobo6bobobo$5bob2o8b2obo$3bobobo10bobobo$3bo4bo8bo4bo$2bo
3b4o6b4o3bo$4bo16bo$3bobob3o6b3obobo$bob2obo3bo4bo3bob2obo$bob4ob3o4b
3ob4obo$2bo4b2o2b4o2b2o4bo$8b2obo2bob2o$7bobo6bobo$6bob2o6b2obo$6bo12b
o$3b2obo12bob2o$2bo2b2o2b2ob2ob2o2b2o2bo$2bo4bo3bo2bo3bo4bo$2b2o2b3o8b
3o2b2o$2bo3bo3b2o2b2o3bo3bo$bobo5bobo2bobo5bobo$2ob2o5bo4bo5b2ob2o$2ob
2o5b2o2b2o5b2ob2o$10bo4bo$2bobobobob6obobobobo$10b2o2b2o$3b2o16b2o$b2o
3bo2bo6bo2bo3b2o$b2o3bobo2bo2bo2bobo3b2o$2b2o7b4o7b2o!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 10th, 2023, 8:46 pm

I'm sketching some hacks for LLSSS that would allow carefully constructed searches to necessarily exhaust all ships at or under a fixed population regardless of the width or height, but still terminate in finite time (at least up to somewhere around twice the minimum population for which a ship exists). It's complicated, and messy, and wildly inefficient, but I'll see how far I can scale it. E.g. for the initial version a search that should have found all c/3 ships <= 34 cells took ~104s.

I will follow up here with more details as I run it some more and maybe refine it.

In the meantime, does anyone know if anything similar is known? I know jslife-moving has collections of "small" ships indexed by population and I will of course compare my results with those, but does anyone know if anything strictly exhaustive has been done or if these are just what we happen to have found?

EDIT 2023/11/10 ~22:12 Pacific:

I've been ramping up the c/3 search and it took only about an hour and ~5G RAM to complete pop 44. Unfortunately I have discovered a mistaken assumption that makes me slightly skittish about the project. I had assumed I could require an on cell in the first W row, which is reasonable and I had assumed I only need to count for minpop in one generation (I chose #0) which is also reasonable if ships can be found in any of the 3 phases. Combined they mistakenly only find ships based on their population in the generation that first advances which e.g. misses a ship known to jslife-moving at pop 39.

The fix is easy enough (run 3 searches, weighting based on a different phase in each and union the results) and does find that missing pop 39 ship. Deduped by hand my collection of pop <= 39 c/3 ships matches jslife-moving's exactly.

I'm gonna see how bad it is to push it towards pop 50 (I don't believe I'll be able to do 50 itself since when there can be two separate ships, as there first can at 50, it will fail to terminate). Eventually I'll probably want to write something fancier to dedupe and/or compare to known sets of ships and I'll probably want to try other speeds. Stay tuned...

EDIT 2023/11/11 ~00:50 Pacific:

The three pop 44 searches finished in ~2.5h total and I analyzed and deduped the results with a combination of vim magic and trickery. In the end my collection of 61 ships (and the spectrum of my analysis's assigned min pops) matches jslife-moving's small ships collection exactly. That is to say, barring bugs of planning, implementation, or understanding, I believe that that collection is exhaustive up to pop 44.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 11th, 2023, 3:27 pm

It's a longshot, but I tried to extend various truncations of the weekender s2s, looking for anything that reached a symmetric slice or reached back into the DB of known slices. Alas, no results. Some example longest partials from searches:

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x = 114, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
69bo2bo$68bo$39bo2bo25bo4bo$38bo29bo4b2o29bo2bo$38bo4bo25bobob2o28bo$b
o2bo33bo4b2o32bo25bo4bo$o38bobob2o29bo2b2o24bo4b2o$o4bo41bo25b2o2bo26b
obob2o$o4b2o37bo2b2o23bo4b2o33bo$bobob2o36b2o2bo24bo4b2o30bo2b2o$9bo
32bo4b2o24b2o2bo30b2o2bo$6bo2b2o31bo4b2o25bo2b2o28bo4b2o$5b2o2bo33b2o
2bo29bo29bo4b2o$4bo4b2o33bo2b2o20bobob2o33b2o2bo$4bo4b2o36bo20bo4b2o
34bo2b2o$5b2o2bo29bobob2o23bo4bo38bo$6bo2b2o27bo4b2o23bo35bobob2o$9bo
28bo4bo25bo2bo30bo4b2o$bobob2o31bo33bo30bo4bo$o4b2o2bo29bo2bo28bo31bo$
o4bo3bo31bo27b2obo28bo3bobo$o41bo25b2o30bo$bo2bo3b2o32bo24b2ob2o27bo6b
o$7bo3bo30bo27bo28bob2o$5b2o4bo58b2o27b2o$5b2obo2bo28b3o27bo30bo2b2o$
8bobobo28b2o27bo30bob3o$3b2o37bob2o21b2ob2o30bo$2bo5bo58b2obo28bo2b2o$
bo3b3ob2o56b2obo28bo$2bo4b2o2bo31b2o23bob2o27bobob2o$4b3o4b2o29b2o25bo
b2o27bobo3bo$3b2ob2obob2o28b3o28b2o26bobobobo$3bo3bob2o30bo2b2o55b2obo
$2bo7bo30b2o2bo26bobo28bobobo$7bob2o33bo24b3obo27bo3b2o$b2ob3o34b2o27b
2ob2o25bobo2bo$4bob2obo31b3obo53b2o2bob3o$45bo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 16th, 2023, 3:28 am

I was thinking about the 17c/34 gap in c/2 periods and produced this double-barreled version of the known puffer:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 81, y = 73, rule = B3/S23
24bo31bo$23b3o29b3o$22b2o4b3o19b3o4b2o$20b2obo2b3o2bo17bo2b3o2bob2o$
21bobo2bobo3bo15bo3bobo2bobo$18b2obobobobo4bo15bo4bobobobob2o$18b2o3bo
bo4bo19bo4bobo3b2o$18b3obo2bo5bobo13bobo5bo2bob3o$17b2o6b2ob2obob2o11b
2obob2ob2o6b2o$24bobobo2bobobo9bobobo2bobobo$23b3o2bo4bob2o7b2obo4bo2b
3o$24bo3bob2obo3bo5bo3bob2obo3bo$23bo5b3obo13bob3o5bo$24bo3b2o2bo3b2o
5b2o3bo2b2o3bo$32b2o13b2o2$32b2o13b2o$31bo17bo$30b2o7b3o7b2o$30bob2o4b
o3bo4b2obo$29b2obob2obo5bob2obob2o$32bo2bobo5bobo2bo$32bo2bobob3obobo
2bo$33bobo3bobo3bobo$29b3obo2bobo3bobo2bob3o$28b2obobo13bobob2o$16bo
11bobobo15bobobo11bo$15b3o9b2o2b3o13b3o2b2o9b3o$9b3o2b3ob2o10bo19bo10b
2ob3o2b3o$8bo2b3obo2bo8b2obob2o2bo7bo2b2obob2o8bo2bob3o2bo$7bo3bobo4bo
b2o7bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo7b2obo4bobo3bo$7bo5bo2bobob2o7b3o3b4o3b4o3b3o7b2o
bobo2bo5bo$9bo2bo8bo12b2o2b2ob2o2b2o12bo8bo2bo$6bobo12b2o6bobo7bobo7bo
bo6b2o12bobo$5b2obob2o10bo5b2ob2o15b2ob2o5bo10b2obob2o$3b2obobobobo6b
4o4bobobobo4b2ob2o4bobobobo4b4o6bobobobob2o$4bobo2bobo6b2o2b2o2b2obobo
b2o11b2obobob2o2b2o2b2o6bobo2bobo$b2obobob2ob2o5bo6bo3bobo4b9o4bobo3bo
6bo5b2ob2obobob2o$b2o4bo9b2o3b2obobobobobobo4bo4bobobobobobob2o3b2o9bo
4b2o$b3ob2obob3o11bobo2bobo2b2o9b2o2bobo2bobo11b3obob2ob3o$2o15b2o3b5o
bo3bob4obobob4obo3bob5o3b2o15b2o$19bob2o35b2obo$19bo3bob2obo3bob2o9b2o
bo3bob2obo3bo$27b3ob3o13b3ob3o$19b2o5bo7bo5bo5bo7bo5b2o$21bo7bobo7b3o
7bobo7bo$20b2o4bo7bo3b5o3bo7bo4b2o$18b3obo2b11ob2o3b2ob11o2bob3o$17b2o
3bo2bo9bobo2bo2bobo9bo2bo3b2o$16bo3bo2bobo9bobobobobobo9bobo2bo3bo$21b
obobo9bobobobobobo9bobobo$16b2o5bobob7obobo5bobob7obobo5b2o$23bob2ob5o
b2obo5bob2ob5ob2obo$24b2ob2o3b2ob2o7b2ob2o3b2ob2o$25b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o$
26b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o5$30bo19bo$30bo19bo$25bo4bo4bo9bo4bo4bo$24bobo7bobo
7bobo7bobo$24bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$25bo9bo9bo9bo4$28bo3bo15bo3bo$27bobob
obo13bobobobo$27bobobobo13bobobobo$28bo3bo15bo3bo!
Alas I could produce no interesting orbits for the smoke and I do not think I can get the c/2 supports any closer than they are. The outermost edge of the front of the p34 part reaches as wide as the smoke itself which makes it impossible to do much of anything here.

EDIT: For completion a tighter double front and more leaning single front allows for however many barrels but I still don't have any new orbits to show for it:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 141, y = 101, rule = B3/S23
116b3ob3o$115bo2bobo2bo$114bo3bobo3bo$114bo9bo$116bo5bo$113bobo7bobo$
112b2obob2ob2obob2o$110b2obobo2bobo2bobobo$111bobo4bobo4bob2o$108b2obo
bob2obobob2obo3bo$108b2obobob3o3b3obo$108bobo3bo2b2ob2o2bo3b2o$107b2ob
2ob2o9b2o$107bo$107b4ob3o$106b2o$110b3o$111bo$110bobo12bo$109b3o9b2ob
3o$112bo6b2obo3b2o$107b2o10bo4bo2b2o$105b2o4b2o5b2obo5bo$105bo2bo7b2ob
o7b2o$107bo9bo7bobob2o$104b2obob2o3b2obob2o3b2obobo$107bob2o3b2obo5bo
3bobob2o$105bobo2bo3bo2bobo7bo3b2o$108bob2ob2obo6b2o3bob3o$106bob2o5b
2obo13b2o$33bo13bo25bo13bo17bo4b2ob2o4bo$32b3o11b3o23b3o11b3o17bo2b2o
3b2o2bo$30b2ob3o9b3ob2o19b2ob3o9b3ob2o18bo5bo$31bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo21bo
2bob2o5b2obo2bo15b2o3bo3bo3b2o$28b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o15b2obo4bobo3bob
o4bob2o11bo2bo9bo2bo$28b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o15b2obobo2bob2ob2obo
2bobob2o14b4o3b4o$28bo8bobobobo8bo15bo8bobobobo8bo11b2obo3bobo3bob2o$
27b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o13b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$39bobo37bobo23bob2ob2ob2ob2ob
o$34b3obo3bob3o27b3obo3bob3o17bo15bo$33b2o11b2o25b2o11b2o18bo3bo3bo3bo
$33bo13bo25bo13bo$32b2o13b2o23b2o13b2o18b3o5b3o2$32b2o13b2o23b2o13b2o
19bo$31bo17bo21bo17bo18bo6b2o$30b2o7b3o7b2o19b2o7b3o7b2o19bo5bo$30bob
2o4bo3bo4b2obo19bob2o4bo3bo4b2obo19bob5o$29b2obob2obo5bob2obob2o17b2ob
ob2obo5bob2obob2o20b2o2b2o$32bo2bobo5bobo2bo23bo2bobo5bobo2bo23bo$32bo
2bobob3obobo2bo23bo2bobob3obobo2bo$33bobo3bobo3bobo25bobo3bobo3bobo25b
o$29b3obo2bobo3bobo2bob3o17b3obo2bobo3bobo2bob3o17b4o$28b2obobo13bobob
2o15b2obobo13bobob2o15b2obobo$16bo11bobobo15bobobo15bobobo15bobobo15bo
bobo11bo$15b3o9b2o2b3o13b3o2b2o13b2o2b3o13b3o2b2o13b2o2b3o9b3o$9b3o2b
3ob2o10bo19bo19bo19bo19bo10b2ob3o2b3o$8bo2b3obo2bo8b2obob2o2bo7bo2b2ob
ob2o2bo7bo2b2obob2o2bo7bo2b2obob2o2bo7bo2b2obob2o8bo2bob3o2bo$7bo3bobo
4bob2o7bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo3b3o5b3o3bobo7b2obo
4bobo3bo$7bo5bo2bobob2o7b3o3b4o3b4o3b3o3b4o3b4o3b3o3b4o3b4o3b3o3b4o3b
4o3b3o7b2obobo2bo5bo$9bo2bo8bo12b2o2b2ob2o2b2o7b2o2b2ob2o2b2o7b2o2b2ob
2o2b2o7b2o2b2ob2o2b2o12bo8bo2bo$6bobo12b2o6bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bo
bo7bobo7bobo7bobo6b2o12bobo$5b2obob2o10bo5b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob2o15b2ob
2o15b2ob2o5bo10b2obob2o$3b2obobobobo6b4o4bobobobo4b2ob2o4bobobobo4b2ob
2o4bobobobo4b2ob2o4bobobobo4b2ob2o4bobobobo4b4o6bobobobob2o$4bobo2bobo
6b2o2b2o2b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o11b2obobob2o2b
2o2b2o6bobo2bobo$b2obobob2ob2o5bo6bo3bobo4b9o4bobo4b9o4bobo4b9o4bobo4b
9o4bobo3bo6bo5b2ob2obobob2o$b2o4bo9b2o3b2obobobobobobo4bo4bobobobobobo
4bo4bobobobobobo4bo4bobobobobobo4bo4bobobobobobob2o3b2o9bo4b2o$b3ob2ob
ob3o11bobo2bobo2b2o9b2o2bobo2b2o9b2o2bobo2b2o9b2o2bobo2b2o9b2o2bobo2bo
bo11b3obob2ob3o$2o15b2o3b5obo3bob4obobob4obo3bob4obobob4obo3bob4obobob
4obo3bob4obobob4obo3bob5o3b2o15b2o$19bob2o95b2obo$19bo3bob2obo3bob2o9b
2obo3bob2o9b2obo3bob2o9b2obo3bob2o9b2obo3bob2obo3bo$27b3ob3o13b3ob3o
13b3ob3o13b3ob3o13b3ob3o$19b2o5bo7bo5bo5bo7bo5bo5bo7bo5bo5bo7bo5bo5bo
7bo5b2o$21bo7bobo7b3o7bobo7b3o7bobo7b3o7bobo7b3o7bobo7bo$20b2o4bo7bo3b
5o3bo7bo3b5o3bo7bo3b5o3bo7bo3b5o3bo7bo4b2o$18b3obo2b11ob2o3b2ob11ob2o
3b2ob11ob2o3b2ob11ob2o3b2ob11o2bob3o$17b2o3bo2bo9bobo2bo2bobo9bobo2bo
2bobo9bobo2bo2bobo9bobo2bo2bobo9bo2bo3b2o$16bo3bo2bobo9bobobobobobo9bo
bobobobobo9bobobobobobo9bobobobobobo9bobo2bo3bo$21bobobo9bobobobobobo
9bobobobobobo9bobobobobobo9bobobobobobo9bobobo$16b2o5bobob7obobo5bobob
7obobo5bobob7obobo5bobob7obobo5bobob7obobo5b2o$23bob2ob5ob2obo5bob2ob
5ob2obo5bob2ob5ob2obo5bob2ob5ob2obo5bob2ob5ob2obo$24b2ob2o3b2ob2o7b2ob
2o3b2ob2o7b2ob2o3b2ob2o7b2ob2o3b2ob2o7b2ob2o3b2ob2o$25b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o
9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o9b3o5b3o$26b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o
5$30bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$30bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$25bo4bo4bo9bo4bo4bo9bo4bo
4bo9bo4bo4bo9bo4bo4bo$24bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7b
obo$24bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo7bobo$25bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo4$28bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$27bobobobo13bo
bobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo$27bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13b
obobobo13bobobobo$28bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 19th, 2023, 1:56 pm

Sokwe wrote: ↑
April 9th, 2023, 9:22 pm
 ... [c/5d] stretchers for these period-2 wicks:

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x = 80, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
42b2o$38b2obo2bo$37bobobobo$36bo3b2o2b3o$35bob3o7bo$34bobo2b5obobo$33b
o2bo5bob3o$33b2ob2o2bo2bo$35bobob4ob3o$33b3obo2bo5bo$2o30bo4b2obo2bobo
$o31bobo2bobo2bo$bobo29bobo2bobo4bobo$35bob2obobobo$3ob2o29bo2bob2o5bo
bo$36b2o6bobo$6b2o41bobo$46bobo$8b2o41bobo$48bobo$10b2o41bobo$50bobo$
12b2o41bobo$52bobo$14b2o41bobo$54bobo$16b2o41bobo$56bobo$18b2o41bobo$
58bobo$20b2o41bobo$26b2o32bobo$22b2obobo37bobo6b2o$62bobo5b2obo2bo$24b
o2bo39bobobob2obo$26bo37bobo4bobo2bobo$26bo42bo2bobo2bobo$66bobo2bob2o
4bo$65bo5bo2bob3o$65b3ob4obobo$68bo2bo2b2ob2o$65b3obo5bo2bo$64bobob5o
2bobo$64bo7b3obo$65b3o2b2o3bo$68bobobobo$67bo2bob2o$68b2o!
I started another pass on this given that I think tools have improved a bit since my last attempt.

For the thinner wick the searches for engages are still in progress but even just so far there is this engage "up":

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x = 68, y = 85, rule = B3/S23
9$10bob2o4b2o$10bo3bob3o$12b4o$11bobobo2b2o$11bobo2bo$16b2obo$12b4obob
3o$16bobo$13bo3b2ob2o$14b2o3b2o$21bo$13b2o7bo$13b2obo5bo$14b5o$16bo2bo
$15bo4b2o$15b2o2bo$19bo$15bo3bo$15b2o2b2o$17bob2o2$18b2ob2o$21b3obo$
18bo2b2o$18bo2bo$21bo$19b2o2b3o$20b2o4b2o$20b2o$20b2o4bob2o$22b4o$27bo
2bo$27bo$29bo$29bo$31bo$31bo$33bo$33bo$35bo$35bo$37bo$37bo$39bo$39bo$
41bo$41bo$43bo$43bo$45bo$45bo$47bo$47bo$49bo$49bo$51bo$51bo$53bo$53bo$
55bo$55bo$57bo$57bo$59bo$57bo$56bo3b2o$56b2obo!
And this engage which I managed to turn "down" although it doesn't look super hot after that:

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x = 81, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
7$24b4o2bo$20bo3bo4b2obo$19b2o2bo5bo$24b2ob3o$16b2ob2obob2o4bo$15bo3bo
2b2o4bo$15bo2bobo3bo5bo$14bo4bob2ob2o4bo$16bo3bo3b2o6bo$13b2o4bo4b2o6b
o$13b2o2b3o2bo3bobo5bo$13b3ob3o2b2ob3o6bo$12bobo4b2o5bo9bo$12bobo5bo
15bo$12bobo2bo2bob7o9bo$14b3o2b2o2b4o11bo$13bob2o3b2o3bo3bo10bo$12bo5b
o4b3o2b2o10bo$13bo3bo4bo4bo14bo$16b2o3b3o4b2o12bo$19bob2o2b2obo15bo$
44bo$46bo$46bo$48bo$48bo$50bo$50bo$52bo$52bo$54bo$54bo$56bo$56bo$58bo$
58bo$60bo$60bo$62bo$62bo$64bo$64bo$66bo$66bo$68bo$68bo$70bo$70bo$72bo$
70bo$69bo3b2o$69b2obo!
Definitely still WIP to see if better engages show up from initial searches, rerun best engages in fixed board searches looking for splits, etc.

For the thicker wick I don't have much hope since it's just so thick. I'm trying some b2f diagonal odd symmetric searches, but they are not looking very good so far. Unfortunately while there are diagonal geometries in LLSSS (and are required to take advantage of symmetry), they all perform very poorly mostly due to expanding the U size of the CA neighborhood and thus blowing up bcol and col sizes.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 19th, 2023, 11:12 pm

Running LLSSS recentering searches from zeros to look for ships at tougher velocities finally reached the top of my search queue. Unfortunately nothing new or particularly interesting, but the partials for (2, 1)c/6 were longer than I expected based on my last tussle with this velocity. Ships are of course known for this velocity and these are nothing exciting in that way, but it is an interesting measure of what LLSSS can do. For complex reasons the search was done in 3 parts and therefore produced 3 longest partials:

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x = 95, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6bo38bo$4bob4o33b2ob2o$3b2o5bo31bo3b2obo$3bob2o3bo31bo6b2o$b2o2bo3bo
31bobo5b2o$bobob2o36bobo$o3b2o34b2obo2bo44b2o$bo2bo36bo4bo43b2obo$8bo
32b4o3bo40b2o2b2o$bo2bo2b3o31bo2bo44b2o3bo$bo4bo3bo31b3o2b2o40b2o3bo$
2bobo3bob2o29b4o3bo39b2o3bo$bo3bob2o31b3o4b2o2b2o34bo3b2o$obo3b2o3bo
29b3o4bo2b2o32b2obo2bo$obo5b2o32b2o2bob2obo33b3o$9bo36b3ob2o31bo3bo2b
2o$7b3ob2o2b2o29b3o2bo31b5obo$10b3o2b2o34b3o27bo8b2o$8bo5bobo31bo2b2o
28b5obob3o$9b2o3bo64bo$8b3o3bo30b2o2b2ob2obo23b4ob2o$9b2o2b2o29b2o4b2o
bobo21bo5b4o$14b2o27b2o3b3o2b2o22b4obo4bo$16bo28b4o27bo6bo4bo$14bo2bo
26bobo3bo25bobo2bo6bo$10b2o2b2o29bo33bo4bo4bo$11b2o30b2o2bo2bobo25b2o
2b2ob2obo$12bo28b2obo5bo25bo$15b3o23bo3bobo27b2ob4obo3bo$11b2ob4o23bo
9bobo26bob2o$10bo3b2o2bo22bo3bo5b2o21bo3bo4bobobo$18b2o26b2o3bo22b2o2b
o4bob4o$11bo5b2obo22b2ob2o5b2o20b3o10bo$12bobob5o23b2ob2o3bo$12b3obo
38bo$12b3ob3o27bobo3bo2bo$12b2o2bo2b2o26b2o6bo$12b2ob2o27bo4b3o$15bo5b
2o20b3o9bo$12b2o29bo2b2o3bo2b2o$11bo3b3o25b2o3b4obo$11bob2ob3o2b2o19b
2ob2o2bo2bo$11bobo2b3ob2obo$13bo7bo$13bo5bo$19b3o$13bobobo4bo$12bobobo
5bo$11b2o4b2o$10bo2bo3b3o2b2o$10bo3b3ob2obo!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 20th, 2023, 6:45 am

… I find the example on the right very interesting because it suggests a (2,1)c/6 grey ship might be possible! At least this could develop into a corner of the hypothetical grey ship.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by Sokwe » November 20th, 2023, 7:26 am

While a greyship would be incredible, a slightly more achievable goal might be a wave stretcher. The following partial result is probably impossible to extend, but it gives an idea of what I'm talking about:

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x = 41, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$36b2obo$35b2o2b2o$35b2o3bo$35b2o3bo$34b2o3bo$33bo3b2o$31b2obo2bo
$31b3o$29bo3bo2b2o$29b5obo$27bo8b2o$27b5obob3o$25bo$25b4ob2o$23bo6b2o
3bo$23b9o$21bo4b2o4b2o$21b3obobo2bo$19bo5b2o2b2obo$19b3o3b3o4bo$17bo
11b2o$17b3o5b3o$15bo9bobo$15b3o6bo2bobo$13bo$13b3o$11bo$11b3o$9bo$9b3o
$7bo$7b3o$5bo$5b3o$3bo$3b3o$2bo$b3obo$bo$b5o$8bobo$bobo3bo2bo$2o4b2o$b
2o$2b8o$3bobo4bo$6b3o$6bo3bo$8b3o$8b4o$11bo!
Edit: here is a partial result that's slightly nicer because the leading edge lasts through two periods instead of just one:

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x = 39, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$34b2obo$33b2o2b2o$33b2o3bo$33b2o3bo$32b2o3bo$31bo3b2o$29b2obo2bo
$29b3o$27bo3bo2b2o$27b5obo$25bo8b2o$25b5obob3o$23bo$23b5o$21bo5bo3b2o$
21b4o3b3o$19bo6bob3o2bo$19b6o3bobo$17bo4b3o7bo$17b3obo4b3o3bo$15bo5bo
5b2o$15b3o3bo6bobo$13bo8bo3b2o$13b3o7b2o4bo$11bo12bobobo$11b3o10bo$9bo
$9b3o$7bo$7b3o$5bo$5b3o$3bo$3b3o$2bo$b3obo$bo$b5o$8bobo$bobo3bo2bo$2o
4b2o$b2o$2b8o$3bobo4bo$6b3o$6bo3bo$8b3o$8b4o$11bo!
Edit 2: just as useless, but slightly longer lasting example:

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x = 39, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$34b2obo$33b2o2b2o$33b2o3bo$33b2o3bo$32b2o3bo$31bo3b2o$29b2obo2bo
$29b3o$27bo3bo2b2o$27b5obo$25bo8b2o$25b5obob3o$23bo$23b5o$21bo5bo3b2o$
21b4o3b3o$19bo6bob3o2bo2bo$19b6o3bobo4b2o$17bo4b3o7bo2b2o$17b3obo4b3o
3bo3bo$15bo5bo5bo4bo$15b3o3bo6bo3b2o$13bo8bo3b3o$13b3o7b2o4b2o$11bo12b
obobo$11b3o10bobo$9bo13b2o3bo$9b3o12bob2o$7bo16bo$7b3o$5bo$5b3o$3bo$3b
3o$2bo$b3obo$bo$b5o$8bobo$bobo3bo2bo$2o4b2o$b2o$2b8o$3bobo4bo$6b3o$6bo
3bo$8b3o$8b4o$11bo!
-Matthias Merzenich
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 20th, 2023, 7:44 am

Sokwe wrote: ↑
November 20th, 2023, 7:26 am
 While a greyship would be incredible, a slightly more achievable goal might be a wave stretcher. The following partial result is probably impossible to extend, but it gives an idea of what I'm talking about:

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x = 41, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$36b2obo$35b2o2b2o$35b2o3bo$35b2o3bo$34b2o3bo$33bo3b2o$31b2obo2bo
$31b3o$29bo3bo2b2o$29b5obo$27bo8b2o$27b5obob3o$25bo$25b4ob2o$23bo6b2o
3bo$23b9o$21bo4b2o4b2o$21b3obobo2bo$19bo5b2o2b2obo$19b3o3b3o4bo$17bo
11b2o$17b3o5b3o$15bo9bobo$15b3o6bo2bobo$13bo$13b3o$11bo$11b3o$9bo$9b3o
$7bo$7b3o$5bo$5b3o$3bo$3b3o$2bo$b3obo$bo$b5o$8bobo$bobo3bo2bo$2o4b2o$b
2o$2b8o$3bobo4bo$6b3o$6bo3bo$8b3o$8b4o$11bo!
Yes, indeed!
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » November 20th, 2023, 1:31 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote: ↑
November 20th, 2023, 6:45 am
 … I find the example on the right very interesting because it suggests a (2,1)c/6 grey ship might be possible! At least this could develop into a corner of the hypothetical grey ship.
I had been hoping for an even-less-than-quartermax by connecting to a known (2, 1)c/6 x p2 edge but alas no luck extending the (2, 1)c/6 edge very far, much less finding the p2 edge. The longest partial isn't even really sensible since it recentered too far left and conflicts with the diagonal edge:

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