Category talk:Patterns that can be constructed with 1000 or more gliders

Observe that this can now be renamed to 'Patterns that can be constructed with 329 gliders'. Calcyman (talk) 22:46, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, we should move the page eventually. I think we should wait at least a few days in case small optimizations further reduce the required number of gliders.
~Sokwe 06:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Technical note --- category pages can't be moved, it'll have to be created anew under a new name. And yes, I agree, waiting for a little longer until the dust settles is sensible. (Also, for anyone who might be reading this and wondering, the above is in reference to this, primarily.) Apple Bottom (talk) 07:11, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm finding it obscurely troublesome to mention 329 gliders in this context. The whole reverse-caber-tosser episode is pointing out the awkward fact that, from now on, there will be a distinction between "Patterns known to be constructible with X gliders" and "Patterns for which an X-glider construction can be exhibited" -- for all X >=329.

These "Patterns that can be constructed with X gliders" categories in the LifeWiki are really supposed to be in the second of these groups, but that group was invented before this crazy universal-constructor idea came along, so the wording accidentally implies that it's talking about the first group.

... On the other hand, 329 gliders is really a better cut-off than 1000 as far as creating categories is concerned. Any object that takes more than a few hundred gliders to construct will probably be the only object in its category. So really in practice I won't mind if the top glider-expense category turns into "Patterns that can be constructed with exactly 329 gliders" -- as long as there's a link to a reverse-caber-tosser article somewhere to explain why the actual glider recipes given for the patterns listed in that category are mysteriously much higher than 329. Dvgrn (talk) 21:55, 12 June 2018 (UTC)