Talk:Heisenburp

Copyediting the Examples section?

The Examples section was added by EV in 2018. Today I noticed several problems with these demonstrations, and it seems to be in need of in-depth copyediting. Here are some questions:

About the images - Do we need these two blurred images with aged (they remind me of Lifeline diagrams), custom (and thus inofficial) style? Isn't the LifeViewer display with commands enough?
About the examples - Where are they first discovered? Where are they used in practice? Since there are actually two Heisenburp reactions, is it better to separate them? Or am I missing any actual application of the tandem reaction? What are the other spaceships not involved in the Heisenburp doing?

They are there to describe the clearance. See heisenburp.py. Ultimium (talk) 01:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

The pattern in heisenburp.py is a pseudo-Heisenburp, which starts with a highway robber and ends with a glider inserter. Clearance consideration is, as far as I see, only for these two stages. For the true Heisenburp demonstrations in the article, it is clear that clearance is not as relevant. GUYTU6J (talk) 03:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

About the text - Is it necessary to describe the mechanism by generations in such a detailed way? Isn't the information about when and where a ship eats half of a traffic light and how fast it recovers irrelevant?

Don't be rude, please. These informations are actually what we'd *like* to see - a detailed explaination is always better than no explaination at all, and how they recovered are actually closely related to the topic. There are already several consensuses on this wiki, like the methuselah stable pattern thing, even if it's "irrelevant" to list all those ash patterns most of the time.Ultimium (talk) 01:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Do I show rudeness? Or is it just that the questions are a bit sharp? I became aware of irrelevancy after reading User_talk:Entity_Valkyrie_1. Back to topic, there are still many details that I think is redundant. Say, for example, these sentences:

Top left -- Generation 0: The purple HWSS ... of the spaceship cluster will be used. The HWSS will convert the green Herschel to a pi-heptomino...
Left -- Generation 21: The purple HWSS gives out its spark, changing the evolution of the Herschel. ...
Bottom left -- Generation 108: The HWSS cluster glides off to the north undamaged; the purple HWSS was not even temporarily affected. ...

They are all saying one thing: an HWSS can convert a Herschel to a pi-heptomino with its domino spark without affecting itself. This concise description can be put before the LifeViewer demonstration, and no future tense is needed. As for the generation counts, as I have said above, they can be left out once the LifeViewer is equipped with commands like T 21 PAUSE 1.

The final census for a methuselah is not so immediately obvious (you have to wait till the evolution ends and count the objects), while the mechanism of a displayed reaction is on the contrary. GUYTU6J (talk) 03:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Wait for other's thoughts. GUYTU6J (talk) 05:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)