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Wow, this is the 1111th non-deleted article! [[User:Gameoflifeboy|Gameof]][[User talk:Gameoflifeboy|life]][[Special:Contributions/Gameoflifeboy|boy]] 05:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 
Wow, this is the 1111th non-deleted article! [[User:Gameoflifeboy|Gameof]][[User talk:Gameoflifeboy|life]][[Special:Contributions/Gameoflifeboy|boy]] 05:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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== Modernity ==
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The first sentence of this page currently reads:
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A pattern is referred to as '''Spartan''' if it can be ''easily'' constructed with a [[slow salvo]].
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As far as I know, the current procedure for building patterns with [[slow salvo]]es is to use [[slmake]]. Then the definition, at least in its most useful form, is equivalent to:
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A pattern is referred to as '''Spartan''' if it can be built with [[slmake]].
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This is slightly more workable as a definition, in that slmake is deterministic so this is actually an objective definition, but opens up a can of worms that the [[Snark]] and [[eater2]] are Spartan by this definition. Certainly [[Dave Greene]] uses these liberally in self-constructing circuitry, so they're effectively Spartan now, but historically they weren't considered Spartan (and nor was the [[tub with tail]], if I remember correctly!).
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Shall we explain that the definition has somewhat changed over time: that it originally referred to well-separated constellations of still-lifes of no more than 7 bits, and now has gradually expanded as automated tools have improved?

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Wow, this is the 1111th non-deleted article! Gameoflifeboy 05:29, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Modernity

The first sentence of this page currently reads:

A pattern is referred to as Spartan if it can be easily constructed with a slow salvo.

As far as I know, the current procedure for building patterns with slow salvoes is to use slmake. Then the definition, at least in its most useful form, is equivalent to:

A pattern is referred to as Spartan if it can be built with slmake.

This is slightly more workable as a definition, in that slmake is deterministic so this is actually an objective definition, but opens up a can of worms that the Snark and eater2 are Spartan by this definition. Certainly Dave Greene uses these liberally in self-constructing circuitry, so they're effectively Spartan now, but historically they weren't considered Spartan (and nor was the tub with tail, if I remember correctly!).

Shall we explain that the definition has somewhat changed over time: that it originally referred to well-separated constellations of still-lifes of no more than 7 bits, and now has gradually expanded as automated tools have improved?