User talk:Haycat2009

Re: "Why is Spam User blocked 176 times???"

Re: this: the asked person was last active several years ago. Copying part of reply by someone else to a similar question:
> "Spam User" is not a single user, but rather the location to which every spambot gets moved. So all of those blocks are for different spambots."
(Also, the next edit suggests that the answer was probably already known.) Confocal (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Notability and conflict of interest

FYI, your edits related to the B35/S23 rule and its naming go against guidelines in LifeWiki:Notability:
"To prevent overenthusiastic edits and conflicts of interest, a commonly accepted rule is that the discoverer of a pattern, inventor of new terminology, writer of a program, etc., etc., should not be the one to document that pattern, term, or program on the LifeWiki."
Confocal (talk) 04:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

rl

Please do not remove the {{rl}} links -- those avoid redirects from the main namespace to the OCA namespace. Confocal (talk) 10:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

You are marking all your recent edits as minor

You are marking all your recent edits as 'minor' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Minor_edit ). Significant changes should not be marked as minor. Confocal (talk) 07:00, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

More examples of major edits marked as minor: one two three four etc. Confocal (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

An example where a previously reverted edit is repeated again and marked as "minor": https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=138495&oldid=138486 Also see edit history/talk page/Tiki bar. Confocal (talk) 06:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Once again, please stop marking all your edits as "minor". The majority of your recent edits are substantial changes to the content (i.e. are not minor). Especially when you're reverting someone else's edit, that cannot be "minor". Confocal (talk) 16:29, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

ZOOM 9 THUMBSIZE 2

Re this, this ZOOM values should be multiples of THUMBSIZE (in those cases, even values). See also https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=153028#p153028 Confocal (talk) 07:33, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

STOP SPAMMING

Confocal, it seems like you really like spamming in my talk. Please stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haycat2009 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 12 October 2023‎

Please sign your replies on talk pages. I am not 'spamming'. This is merely an attempt to notify you that some of your edits are problematic. It seems like you are completely ignoring this feedback. Confocal (talk) 07:09, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I am aware that you like policing and trolling new users, especially those that contribute the most to the wiki. You cannot fool me; I can see your true motive. Is this due to jealousy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haycat2009 (talk • contribs) 07:16, 12 October 2023‎

Edit warring

Would you care to explain your edit warring in OCA:Logarithmic replicator rule and L156? If your edits are reverted, then that probably means that someone else does not consider them improvements. If you consider yourself a "new user", consider the possibility that you are missing something known to others. Confocal (talk) 07:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Baker's dozen

Re: "The point of the rle is to highlight all possible reactions" -- that is impossible in general (too many variants to show everything). Your initial edit replaced a pname link to an existing RLE by a new RLE without any explanation, and was incorrectly marked as "minor" -- that does not look like an improvement. If you do not want others to revert your edits, please spend some additional efforts explaining those edits / making sure they are likely to be improvements. Confocal (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

This is the smallest stable variant that does not require a dimer. Stable variants are important sometimes and notable, even though the caterer variant is smaller. I do not know why I have became your punching bag - must you undo all my edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haycat2009 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 20 October 2023‎

This website is not about you. If you are here to contribute something without preventing others from contributing something, then please spend some additional efforts explaining your edits and making sure they are likely to be improvements. Confocal (talk) 15:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

LifeWiki:Did you know/143

Would you explain what was meant in this edit to LifeWiki:Did you know/143? The resulting text is unreadable (which is why I already reverted the Did-You-Know item to the older version). Confocal (talk) 17:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

To be honest I was not sure to edit or not, so I am ok with the revert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haycat2009 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 22 October 2023‎

Message from unname4798

Please remove fake emergency user stop button. Unname4798 (talk) 07:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

My profile, my content. Would you like it if I vandalised your profile? No. Your profile is your own, and my profile is my own. So I let you be, and you let me be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haycat2009 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 22 October 2023‎

You are already editing user pages of several other people, apparently without bothering to check whether or not they are OK with that.
Also, I second the request to remove the non-button. How exactly a big (and misleading) red button is supposed to help other editors to meaningfully interact with you? Confocal (talk) 08:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Userpages here tend to be less "owned" here than they are on Wikipedia. I'm a regular updater of User:Sokwe/interesting oscillators and User:ColorfulGalaxy/Encyclopedia of numbers, for example. Even on Wikipedia, WP:OWN says that userpages are not owned by the user. Because the "emergency shutoff button" is fake (i.e. it doesn't block the user), it should be removed. HotdogPi (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

The "ownership" question is nontrivial (e.g. as far as I see, both pages you linked to are meant to be edited by others, with the first page stating directly "Feel free to edit this page." from the first revision). The default common-sense rule of thumb is that subpages in someone's userspace "belong" to that user, unless stated otherwise. As long as there are no problems/violations on a user-namespace (sub)page, it is up to the user to decide what they put there, and whether or not they want contributions from others.
I agree that the "emergency shutoff button" should be removed, though. Confocal (talk) 12:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

I know that I should have said this earlier, but seriously, can you recognise a joke when you see one? The button is a joke that I will not remove until the time is ripe. Haycat2009 (talk) 13:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

It's not a joke. The standard purpose of an emergency shutoff button is that clicking it goes to Special:Block. This is visually indistinguishable, with the only difference being that clicking it only goes to the image of the button rather than the special page. This kind of implies that you're saying you can't be blocked. HotdogPi (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Sometimes a joke happens to be bad. Sometimes a so-called "joke" violates rules.
In this case, you are defending the "button" even after several other people already told you that it is fake and should be removed.
Generally, your userpage should be a place to put something that helps other editors to communicate with you in meaningful constructive ways. Confocal (talk) 13:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Done and dusted. Haycat2009 (talk) 13:53, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Confocal, the button now works as intended. You no longer need to remove it. HotdogPi (talk) 14:01, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Whether or not it "works as intended", the bigger issue remains. How exactly this is supposed to help other editors to meaningfully interact with you? Confocal (talk) 14:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Please sign your replies on talk pages

Please sign your replies on talk pages (this can be done by putting four tildes at the end, like ~~~~). Confocal (talk) 08:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

R3 Cross Grounded Life?

You liked both rules/rulespaces, so you could do that. Sometimes I wonder - is that even possible? H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good, but converting NM to N+ is probably extremely difficult.Haycat2009 (talk) 13:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm thinking of a transition that would remove the spaceships. Offhand I am thinking of S3bf or B4br (Durnak-Cole notation). H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Wait, which spaceships? After all, Grounded Life still has spaceships Haycat2009 (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

The factorialships from Factorio. What else? H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 13:09, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Sure! One question though: Does lifeviewer accept our notation?

No. However, I asked Rowett to add Durnak-Cole notation. H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 13:13, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Sweet! Any responses yet? Haycat2009 (talk) 13:16, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

No. However, CAViewer supports R3 Cross isotropic (with a different notation from ours, sadly). H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 13:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thats ok. Say - how do we convert from Durnak-Cole notation to CAViewer R3 Cross isotropic notation? I want to try these rules out on CAviewer. Haycat2009 (talk) 13:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I have absolutely no idea. We'll wait for Rowett's reply on Durnak-Cole. H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 13:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Sure! Patience is important.

Phrase shifted sparklers?

Neither 'rephrase' for rephase, nor 'phrase shift' for 'phase shift', nor 'sparkler' for sparker, is correct.
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=139792&oldid=139738
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=139320&oldid=139319
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=140070&oldid=139321
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=140323&oldid=131586
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=140760&oldid=139992
https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=137526&oldid=115443
Please do not spam the wiki with misspellings. Confocal (talk) 08:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff=142193&oldid=132758 'rephrase' istead of 'rephase'. Confocal (talk) 08:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

A strange edit summary

Care to explain the edit summary? Confocal (talk) 09:32, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

You are misusing the undo functionality

You are abusing the undo functionality to revert multiple unrelated changes without any explanations. If you moved a page, remove just the proposed move tag instead of doing an undo. Confocal (talk) 05:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought that the latest edit was just adding a template, I did not check these pages. By the way, by the word "abusing", are you implying bad faith? Haycat2009 (talk) 05:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

You are abusing the undo functionality, intentionally or not. For my edits that you reverted, the edit summaries make it clear that there were multiple changes. You reverted those multiple changes, instead of just removing the proposed move template transclusion. Please do not do such reverts anymore. Confocal (talk) 06:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I will check what I am actually reverting first. Still, I can tell that you assume bad faith in me - is it really abusing if I did not check? Abusing would be more like reverting every edit on a page. Haycat2009 (talk) 06:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?target=Haycat2009&namespace=all&tagfilter=mw-undo&start=&end=&limit=100&title=Special%3AContributions Confocal (talk) 06:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Please provide informative edit summaries for your edits

Please explain your edits in edit summaries. This especially applies, whenever you want to undo someone else's edit for some reason or another.
In this message on my talk page, you promised that in future you will stop undoing my edits. Since then, you did undo my edits at least 7 (seven) times, including reverts without any explanation at all: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. That is not counting cases where you undid edits by others (it does not really matter whether it is my edit or someone else's edit). Confocal (talk) 09:14, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok. Frankly, all of them were for only 1 reason: to remove a redundant template. You can roast me however you like, but it is time for a truce. Why can we not ignore each other anyway? Haycat2009 (talk) 06:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

The wiki is a shared space so it is impossible to totally ignore what others do here. People are here trying to collect CA-related knowledge. If your activity here makes it hard for others to do that, then it is unlikely that your edits will be just ignored by everyone. Confocal (talk) 06:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Got it. But can we have a truce, please? Dvgrn already told us to do that. After all, the love of CA-related knowledge is what unites both of us. We will have to learn to coexist, and not fight to the banhammer. Haycat2009 (talk) 06:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Copying content within LifeWiki

Hello. When copying content from one article to another (either without changes or with minor changes), it is a good idea to provide a link back to the source page in the edit summary, and state that content was copied from that source. See also corresponding Wikipedia guideline. Confocal (talk) 06:03, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

How do I do that, and what counts as copying? Haycat2009 (talk) 06:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

In this edit you copied content from Mazing without linking to the source or otherwise explaining that it is not written by you. You also incorrectly marked your edit as minor.
In this edit you copied content from Glider to block with minor changes, again without linking to the source or otherwise explaining that it is written by someone else. You also incorrectly marked your edit as minor. This is a substantial change to content, and not a minor edit.
In this edit, you copied content with minor modifications from OCA:Gems. Again, you did not acknowledge the source, and incorrectly marked your edit as minor. Further, the proof as written is not applicable in this case. Confocal (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Where do I explain, and can you tell me how to do it instead of just ordering me around and roasting me? Haycat2009 (talk) 09:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

When copying content from one article to another (either without changes or with minor changes), it is a good idea to provide a link back to the source page in the edit summary, and state that content was copied from that source. See also corresponding Wikipedia guideline. Confocal (talk) 09:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok then. Let’s have peace! Haycat2009 (talk) 09:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

This edit is comprised of pieces of other edits stitched together. In such cases as these, labelling is especially important, since the edit creates a duplicate utterance of the existing information, which doubles the amount of effort in updating them.

It would also be nice if you cited the forum thread from whence you got things, like the technically-trivial oscillators in which components of different periods are codependent that you added to Trivial, or the growing spaceship mentioned in this edit to Block fuse, to add context of dates and discoverers, and save readers the process of rediscovering where you found them.

I like Haycat's edits generally, some of them are quite interesting, and they seem very diligent in other regards (and often venture to the unbeaten tracks with abundance of unadded things, alike me), this is my only contention. DroneBetter (talk) 11:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Using other people's userpages in your navbox

I feel it's a problem when you use other peoples' userpages (particularly mine) in your navbox. I want to know what are your motivations are for doing so. H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 10:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't mind the inclusion of mine there, Haycat (and indeed anyone) is welcome to contribute to it if they so desire, and their titling of B3ai4/S23 as "Elevated Life" is quite nice. They have helped you with the Factorio page, maybe they made the navbox section for the same reason as my userspace rule pages list (with the intention of exhaustive completeness) but didn't realise quite how many such pages there were from the editors of yore, or it was for their own benefit if they visit these often. DroneBetter (talk) 11:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

I don't mean the rulepages. I mean the slightly less serious pages. Sometimes they reference them (as in my (fictionalized) story involving Factorio) and sometimes they completely rip off my pages (e.g. Haycat's Kingdoms of the isotropic realms and their Are you a CA Enthusiast? Quiz). I find it a slight problem. H. H. P. M. P. Cole - the factorialship's owner (talk) 11:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)