Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

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Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 22nd, 2022, 3:49 pm

Here’s a rule by affamatodidio known as “Duck and Frog”
Here are some of posts on this:
AlbertArmStain wrote:
November 11th, 2022, 6:42 pm
affamatodidio wrote:
November 11th, 2022, 5:14 pm
Apologies for double posting, however, this is for a new rule that I had created and already shared on the discord. Lovingly named "Duck And Frog" for its two small spaceships (duck and frog), B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8 has a dot splitter for the frog, a frog to duck, and other mechanisms underway.
Simple frog to duck:

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8History
13.A3.A$12.A5.A$12.7A$14.3B$.2A11.3B$A.A3.B7.3B$2.A14B2.BD$2.A3BA8BA3B
3D$2.A16BDB$A.A2.3B6.6B$.2A2.3B6.5B$5.3B6.4B$5.3B5.4B$5.3B4.5B2.2A$5.
3B3.6B2.A.A$5.14BA$4.2BA8BA3BA$5.14BA$6.5B3.3B2.A.A$6.4B4.3B2.2A$6.BA
B5.BCB$7.2B5.3C$9.A!
Adjustable spaceship:

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x = 4, y = 9, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
3bo3$3o$bo4$2bo!
List of things to do:
- Discover more spaceship speeds
- Create orthogonoid
- Find more signal convertors
- Find smaller eaters for both
I like this rule, here's some reactions

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x = 24, y = 279, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
23bo2$bo4$bo$3o8$bo$3o12$bo$3o9$obo$bo17$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o10$obo$bo8$bo
$3o11$obo$bo17$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o10$obo$bo8$bo$3o10$obo$bo18$23bo2$bo4$b
o$3o9$obo$bo7$obo$bo31$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o7$obo$bo6$bo$3o6$bo$3o6$bo$3o7$
obo$bo9$obo$bo!

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x = 12, y = 9, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
11bo3$o$2o9bo$o3$11bo!
LaundryPizza03 wrote:
December 21st, 2022, 3:55 pm
dl-rs wrote:
December 21st, 2022, 1:51 am
Hey has this been found? (I can't identify it because golly busted when running it but it's probably a failed replicator or a rake)

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x = 66, y = 132, rule = B3aikny4acjnw5aeiy6aik7e/S2ae3-acnq4aciwy5-cn6-cn7
17b3o$15b7o$13b3obobob3o$11b4obobobob4o$9b3obobobobobobob3o$7b4obobob
obobobobob4o$6b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o$5b2obobobobobobobobobobobob2o
$5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4b3obobobobobobobobobobobob3o$4b2obobo
bobobobobobobobobobob2o$3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$3bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$2b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o$2b2obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobob2o$b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o$2obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o
$bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bob2o$2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$2b3obobobobobobobobobobobob
obob3o$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo
bob2o$4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$4b3obobobobobobobobobobobob3o$5b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5b2obobobobobobobobobobobob2o$6b2obobobob
obobobobobobob2o$7b4obobobobobobobob4o$9b3obobobobobobob3o$11b4obobob
ob4o$13b3obobob3o$15b7o$17b3o13$55bo$53b5o$51b4ob4o$49b3obobobob3o$48b
3obobobobob3o$48b2obobobobobob2o$47b2obobobobobobob2o$47bobobobobobob
obobo$46b3obobobobobobob3o$46b2obobobobobobobob2o$45b2obobobobobobobo
bob2o$46b2obobobobobobobob2o$46b3obobobobobobob3o$47bobobobobobobobob
o$47b2obobobobobobob2o$47b3obobobobobob3o$47b17o$47b17o$47b3obobobobo
bob3o$47b2obobobobobobob2o$47bobobobobobobobobo$46b3obobobobobobob3o$
46b2obobobobobobobob2o$45b2obobobobobobobobob2o$46b2obobobobobobobob2o
$46b3obobobobobobob3o$47bobobobobobobobobo$47b2obobobobobobob2o$48b2o
bobobobobob2o$48b3obobobobob3o$49b3obobobob3o$51b4ob4o$53b5o$55bo13$17b
3o$15b7o$13b3obobob3o$11b4obobobob4o$9b3obobobobobobob3o$7b4obobobobo
bobobob4o$6b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o$5b2obobobobobobobobobobobob2o$5b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4b3obobobobobobobobobobobob3o$4b2obobobob
obobobobobobobobob2o$3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$3bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$2b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o$2b2obobobobobob
obobobobobobobobob2o$b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o$2obobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob3o$bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
2o$2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$2b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobo
b3o$3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
2o$4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$4b3obobobobobobobobobobobob3o$5bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$5b2obobobobobobobobobobobob2o$6b2obobobobob
obobobobobob2o$7b4obobobobobobobob4o$9b3obobobobobobob3o$11b4obobobob
4o$13b3obobob3o$15b7o$17b3o!

I identified this chaospuffer as something that can be made into a 222c/606o and at least one higher period multiple. An unrelated pattern in the same rule was also posted by breaker's glider gun.
dl-rs wrote:
December 21st, 2022, 1:51 am
silly conduit:

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x = 13, y = 65, rule = B2ci3aery4kr5aeiq6c/S01c2ei3-ci4ijrt5ainy6i
8bo$7bobo7$8bo$7bobo7$8bo$7bobo7$8bo$7bobo7$8bo$7bobo7$8bo$7bobo7$6bo
$7bo3$o10bo$2bo$3bo2bo$5bo$11bo2$6bo$7bo4bo2$9bo2$8bo$7bo!
Any of the following will work here, along with most other still lives:

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x = 144, y = 51, rule = B2ci3aery4kr5aeiq6c/S01c2ei3-ci4ijrt5ainy6i
2bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bo
bo17bobo7$2bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo
17bobo17bobo17bobo7$2bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$bobo17bobo17bobo
17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo7$2bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$bobo
17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo7$2bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19b
o19bo$bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo7$2bo19bo19bo19bo
19bo19bo19bo19bo$bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo6$39bo$
o19bo19bo19bo18b2o18b2o18b2o18b2o$21bo37bo19b2o17bobo18bobo16bobo$98b
2o20b2o16b2o!
I’ll make a collection once I’m on my computer and NOT my phone.

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by pipsqueek » December 22nd, 2022, 5:52 pm

here's a basic pattern collection

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x = 253, y = 139, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
124b2o2b3o$117bo2b2o2b2o2b3o$113bo2bo3b2o2b2o2b3o4$161bo$135bo6bo18b2o
$121bo4b4o5b2o6b4o13b5o$114b2o4b2o4bob2o4bo2bo6bobo6bo5b5o$113b2o4bo2b
o3b4o7b2o6b2o5bobo6b2o$136bo14b2ob2o6bo4$114bo9b2o4bo$116b2o4b2ob3o2bo
7bo5bo$115b2o6bobo3bobo5b3o5b2obo$118bo3b3o4b3o4bo3bo4bob2o$129b3o17bo
5$114b7o13bo5bo$114b2obob2o3bo11b3o$114bo5bo5b3o6bobobo$114b2obob2o4b
2obo6b2ob2o$114bo5bo4bob2o6bobobo$114b2obob2o4b4o7b3o65bo$114b7o13bo5b
o70bo7bo$210bo$211bo2$128b3obo$127bobob3o$126b2o6bo$115bo2bo8bo5b2o$
116b2obo6bo7bo105bo$117bob2o5b2o5bo105bo9bo$118bo2bo4bo6b2o105bo$127b
3obobo$128bob3o5$116bobobo$117bobo$116bo3bo$117bobo$116bobobo125b7o$
246bo5bo$247bo3bo11$119bo$118bo$119bo3$118b2o$118bobo17$128bo$126b4o$
128bo3$128bo$126b4o$125bo2bo$123b4o$125bo7$126bo3bo7bo$122b3o4bo3bob2o
$85bo10bo25bob2o3bo3b2ob3o$85b3o6b3o28b2o2b3o6b3o$84bo2bobo2bobo2bo27b
2obobo2bo3bo$87b2o4b2o32b2ob3o6bo$85bo10bo36bo$86bo8bo$85bo10bo$83b2o
12b2o$85bo10bo34bo$84b3o8b3o28bob2o$84b4o6b4o28b2ob3o$84b2obo6bob2o27b
o5b3o$87bo6bo30b2o3bo$86bo8bo36bo$84bobo8bobo$86bo8bo$88bo4bo36bo$84b
4o6b4o27b5o$84b2o10b2o27b2obob2o$74bo9bo12bo30bobo$72bo3bo7bobo8bobo$
73bobo8bo2bobo2bobo2bo$58bo15bo9bo3bo4bo3bo30bo2bo$bo55b3o14bo9bo3bo4b
o3bo27b3ob2o$3o63bobo5bo9bo3bo4bo3bo27b2o2bob2o$bo56b3o4b2o7bo9bo3bo4b
o3bo33bo$bo56bo7bo7bo9bo3bo4bo3bo$58bo7bo7bo9bo3bo4bo3bo$bo56bo7bo7bo
9bo3bo4bo3bo$58bobo5bobo5bobo7bo3bo4bo3bo34bo$58b2o6b2o6b2o6bobobobo4b
obobobo28bo$83b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o27b3ob4o$126bo$128bo3bo!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 22nd, 2022, 6:33 pm

Two failed reflectors, one of which has a new catalyst:

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x = 30, y = 11, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
o$2o4bo14bo$o20b2o3bo$21bo3$27b3o$27b3o3$3bo4bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by NimbleRogue » December 23rd, 2022, 2:39 am

New catalyst

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
5$11bo$8bo5bo2$6bo9bo$11bo9$3bobo$3b2o!
And you can get a frog out of it,

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x = 46, y = 39, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
$15bo3$15bo$12bo5bo2$10bo9bo$15bo9$7bobo$7b2o!
Maybe we could get a duck to frog?
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A crazy catalyst

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x = 58, y = 42, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4$13bo$12bobo2$5bo$6bo$6b4o$8b2o$9bo2bo$9bo$8b2o$7bo!
That can be used for duck->frog

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x = 22, y = 16, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4$5bo2bo$6bo2bo$6b4o2$4bo7b2o$5bo5bobo$5b4o$7b2o$8bo$8bo$7b2o$6bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cnqy4e5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4einrtyz5cejn6cin78
bo$3o$ob2o!

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#14c/85265o
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2-an3-iqy4iknrtz5aijqy6aei78/S02ck3nqy4eiqrtwy5-ekq6-i78
2bo4bo$3b4o$ob6obo$2b6o!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 23rd, 2022, 12:08 pm

Reduced reflector:

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
o2bo$bo2bo$b4o3$4bo$bob2o$4bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by NimbleRogue » December 23rd, 2022, 6:02 pm

p277 duck->frog->duck

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x = 72, y = 60, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
13$55bo2$57bo3$43bo$44b2o3bo8bo$45bo$43bobo$44b2o5$64bo$49bo8bo3b2o$
62bo$62bobo$62b2o2$49b4o$27bo2bo18bo2bo$28bo2bo16bo2bo$28b4o2$26bo7b2o
$27bo5bobo22bo$27b4o$29b2o$30bo$28bobo$29b2o27b4o$58bo2bo$57bo2bo!
Two more uses for the new catalyst

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x = 113, y = 48, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
12$18bo$16b2o$16bo$15b2o39bo$13b4o37b2o$13bo9bo30bo$12bo9b2o29b2o$23bo
27b4o$17bo33bo9bo19bo$18bo31bo9b2o18b2o$61bo19bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cnqy4e5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4einrtyz5cejn6cin78
bo$3o$ob2o!

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#14c/85265o
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2-an3-iqy4iknrtz5aijqy6aei78/S02ck3nqy4eiqrtwy5-ekq6-i78
2bo4bo$3b4o$ob6obo$2b6o!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 23rd, 2022, 6:20 pm

NimbleRogue wrote:
December 23rd, 2022, 6:02 pm
Two more uses for the new catalyst

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x = 113, y = 48, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
12$18bo$16b2o$16bo$15b2o39bo$13b4o37b2o$13bo9bo30bo$12bo9b2o29b2o$23bo
27b4o$17bo33bo9bo19bo$18bo31bo9b2o18b2o$61bo19bo!
one of which can be reduced using a known catalyst:

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x = 30, y = 8, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
o$b2o$2bo$obo$b2o$9bo19bo$8b2o18b2o$9bo19bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by pipsqueek » December 23rd, 2022, 7:05 pm

an adjustable toggling loop

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x = 103, y = 126, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
12bo2bo55bo2bo23bo2bo$13bo2bo55bo2bo23bo2bo$13b4o55b4o23b4o4$4bo8bo61b
o15bo10bo$5b2o3bo2b2obo$6bo6bo$4bobo$5b2o2$13bo82bo$10bob2o2bo74bo5b2o
3bo$13bo84bo$96bobo$97b2o$7b4o77b4o$7bo2bo77bo2bo$6bo2bo77bo2bo17$12bo
2bo50bo2bo28bo2bo$13bo2bo50bo2bo28bo2bo$13b4o50b4o28b4o4$4bo8bo56bo20b
o10bo$5b2o3bo2b2obo$6bo6bo$4bobo$5b2o2$13bo82bo$10bob2o2bo74bo5b2o3bo$
13bo84bo$96bobo$97b2o$7b4o77b4o$7bo2bo77bo2bo$6bo2bo77bo2bo15$11bo2bo
33bo2bo45bo2bo$12bo2bo33bo2bo45bo2bo$12b4o33b4o45b4o4$3bo8bo39bo37bo
10bo$4b2o3bo2b2obo$5bo6bo$3bobo$4b2o2$12bo82bo$9bob2o2bo74bo5b2o3bo$
12bo84bo$95bobo$96b2o$6b4o77b4o$6bo2bo77bo2bo$5bo2bo77bo2bo17$8bo2bo
22bo2bo56bo2bo$9bo2bo22bo2bo56bo2bo$9b4o22b4o56b4o4$o8bo28bo48bo10bo$b
2o3bo2b2obo$2bo6bo$obo$b2o2$9bo82bo$6bob2o2bo74bo5b2o3bo$9bo84bo$92bob
o$93b2o$3b4o77b4o$3bo2bo77bo2bo$2bo2bo77bo2bo!
the catalyst can be used for binary counters. here are two examples, one outputs, the other does not

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x = 89, y = 94, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
8bo2bo$9bo2bo$9b4o4$o8bo$b2o3bo2b2obo45bo$2bo6bo49b2o$obo57bo$b2o57b2o
$60b4o$9bo53bo$6bob2o2bo51bo7bo11bo$9bo3$3b4o45bo$3bo2bo46b2o$2bo2bo
48bo$52bobo$53b2o4bo24bo5$84b4o$72b4o8bo2bo$72bo2bo9bo2bo$73bo2bo36$8b
o2bo$9bo2bo$9b4o4$o8bo$b2o3bo2b2obo45bo$2bo6bo49b2o$obo57bo$b2o57b2o$
60b4o$9bo53bo$6bob2o2bo51bo2b2o7bo$9bo56bobo$68bo$67b2o$3b4o45bo13bo$
3bo2bo46b2o$2bo2bo48bo$52bobo$53b2o4bo16bo5$76b4o$76bo2bo$77bo2bo!
and it is of course extensible. but unbounded binary counters is a another problem (maybe we could use rakes to extend it)
EDIT: I found a rake with zfind, doesn't fire in the direction I hoped it to though. how far off are we from clean side-rakes?

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x = 13, y = 72, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
6bo2$5b3o2$5bobo$3b2o3b2o$5bobo$4b5o$4bo3bo$4bobobo$4b5o$5bobo$4b2ob2o
$obob5obobo$4b5o$bo2bobobo2bo$3b2obob2o2$4b5o$4bobobo$3b2obob2o$4b5o$
4b2ob2o$4b2ob2o$4b5o$6bo$4b2ob2o$4bobobo$2bobo3bobo$b4o3b4o$4bo3bo$4bo
3bo$bo2bo3bo2bo$3obo3bob3o$bo2bo3bo2bo$bob2o3b2obo$2b3o3b3o$bob2o3b2ob
o$bo2bo3bo2bo$bob2o3b2obo$b2o3bo3b2o$5b3o$3o2bobo2b3o$obo2b3o2bobo$ob
2o5b2obo$o4bobo4bo2$5bobo$4bo3bo$4bobobo$4bo3bo$2b3obob3o$4b5o$4bobobo
$3bobobobo$3b2obob2o$3bobobobo$4bobobo$2b2o5b2o$2bobobobobo$2b2obobob
2o$2b2obobob2o$2b9o$2b2o5b2o$2bo7bo$2bobobobobo$2bob2ob2obo$2b3o3b3o$
2bo7bo$6bo$5b3o$5bobo!
EDIT 2: the rake can do plenty of weird things

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x = 152, y = 103, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
6bo2$6bo$4b5o$5b3o$4b2ob2o$4bobobo$4b5o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o$4b5o$3b7o$bo3b
3o3bo$3ob2ob2ob3o$bo2bo3bo2bo$bo2b5o2bo$4bo3bo84bo$5bobo$4b5o84bo$4b5o
82b5o$4b5o83b3o50bo$6bo84b2ob2o$4bobobo82bobobo49bo$4bobobo82b5o47b5o$
4bobobo82bo3bo48b3o$3bo5bo81b2ob2o47b2ob2o$4bobobo82b5o47bobobo$4bo3bo
81b7o46b5o$bob2o3b2obo76bo3b3o3bo44bo3bo$2b3o3b3o76b3ob2ob2ob3o43b2ob
2o$3b2o3b2o78bo2bo3bo2bo44b5o$4bo3bo79bo2b5o2bo43b7o$obobo3bobobo78bo
3bo44bo3b3o3bo$4bo3bo83bobo44b3ob2ob2ob3o$bo2bo3bo2bo79b5o44bo2bo3bo2b
o$2b3o3b3o80b5o44bo2b5o2bo$2o2bo3bo2b2o78b5o47bo3bo$2b3o3b3o82bo50bobo
$b4o3b4o79bobobo47b5o$bob2o3b2obo79bobobo47b5o$b2o2bobo2b2o79bobobo47b
5o$3bob3obo80bo5bo48bo$3o2b3o2b3o78bobobo47bobobo$3o2b3o2b3o78bo3bo47b
obobo$obob5obobo75bob2o3b2obo44bobobo$5b3o81b3o3b3o44bo5bo$4b2ob2o81b
2o3b2o46bobobo$5b3o83bo3bo47bo3bo$6bo80bobobo3bobobo40bob2o3b2obo$4bob
obo82bo3bo45b3o3b3o$3b7o78bo2bo3bo2bo43b2o3b2o$3b3ob3o79b3o3b3o45bo3bo
$3b2o3b2o77b2o2bo3bo2b2o39bobobo3bobobo$5bobo81b3o3b3o45bo3bo$3bo2bo2b
o78b4o3b4o41bo2bo3bo2bo$3bobobobo78bob2o3b2obo42b3o3b3o$3bo2bo2bo78b2o
2bobo2b2o40b2o2bo3bo2b2o$4b2ob2o81bob3obo44b3o3b3o$2bobobobobo76b3o2b
3o2b3o40b4o3b4o$2b4ob4o76b3o2b3o2b3o40bob2o3b2obo$2bo2bobo2bo76bobob5o
bobo40b2o2bobo2b2o$2bob5obo81b3o47bob3obo$2bob5obo80b2ob2o43b3o2b3o2b
3o$2b2o5b2o81b3o44b3o2b3o2b3o$2bo2bobo2bo82bo45bobob5obobo$2bo2bobo2bo
80bobobo48b3o$2b3obob3o79b7o46b2ob2o$2b9o79b3ob3o47b3o$90b2o3b2o48bo$
5bobo84bobo48bobobo$5b3o82bo2bo2bo45b7o$6bo83bobobobo45b3ob3o$6bo83bo
2bo2bo45b2o3b2o$91b2ob2o48bobo$89bobobobobo44bo2bo2bo$89b4ob4o44bobobo
bo$89bo2bobo2bo44bo2bo2bo$89bob5obo45b2ob2o$89bob5obo43bobobobobo$89b
2o5b2o43b4ob4o$89bo2bobo2bo43bo2bobo2bo$89bo2bobo2bo43bob5obo$89b3obob
3o43bob5obo$89b9o43b2o5b2o$141bo2bobo2bo$92bobo46bo2bobo2bo$92b3o46b3o
bob3o$93bo47b9o$3bo5bo83bo$144bobo$144b3o$145bo$145bo4$93bo$92bo5$146b
o!
Last edited by pipsqueek on December 23rd, 2022, 7:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by NimbleRogue » December 23rd, 2022, 7:30 pm

So close to a 180 degree turner, it can also form the final step for a period-variable ship gun

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x = 39, y = 28, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4$15bo$13b2o$13bo$13bo$12b2o$9b5o$9bo10bo$8bo10b2o$20bo$14bo$15bo3$18b
o!
3 frogs ->1 frog, 2 ducks

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x = 21, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
3$8bo$7bobo4$10bo$9bobo6$9bobo$10bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-cnqy4e5kr6n7c/S2-i3-ay4einrtyz5cejn6cin78
bo$3o$ob2o!

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#14c/85265o
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B2-an3-iqy4iknrtz5aijqy6aei78/S02ck3nqy4eiqrtwy5-ekq6-i78
2bo4bo$3b4o$ob6obo$2b6o!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AforAmpere » December 31st, 2022, 2:28 pm

NimbleRogue wrote:
December 23rd, 2022, 7:30 pm
So close to a 180 degree turner, it can also form the final step for a period-variable ship gun
There's one already built-in to the rule:

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x = 22, y = 13, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
5bo2bo$6bo2bo$6b4o3$21bo$6bo13b2o$21bo$b2o$obo$2bo$b2o3bo$o!
Also, since nobody's mentioned it yet, you can of course make adjustable slope ships:

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x = 38, y = 31, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
2bo$6bo5bo$6b2o28bo$6bo21bo3bo$31b2o$32bo$26bo$25bobo7bo$34b3o3$27bo$
30bo6bo$30b2o$30bo9$9b3o$bo8bo$3o2$11bo$3bo3bo$8bo$7bo!
You can pack things surprisingly close:

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x = 11, y = 24, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
9bo$2bobo$5bo$4bo2bobo$8bo7$obo$bo8$3bo$6bo3bo$6b2o$6bo!
I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. I also wrote EPE, a tool for searching in the INT rulespace.

Things to work on:
- Find (7,1)c/8 and 9c/10 ships in non-B0 INT.
- EPE improvements.

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Chai » December 31st, 2022, 6:13 pm

Duck catch-and-throw, output on the same lane as input

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x = 64, y = 27, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
14b2o$13bobo6$51bo2bo$50bo2bo$50b4o4$50bobo$52bo2bo5b2o$50bobo8bobo$61b
o$61b2o$o17bo17bo26bo$bo17bo17bo12bo4bo$o17bo17bo4$55b4o$55bo2bo$56bo
2bo!
Color changing (?) Duck kickback

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x = 76, y = 27, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
13b2o$13bobo6$63bo2bo$62bo2bo$62b4o4$62bobo$64bo2bo5b2o$62bobo8bobo$73b
o$73b2o$o11bo17bo17bo26bo$b2o10bo17bo17bo12bo4bo$2bo9bo17bo17bo$obo$b
2o2$67b4o$67bo2bo$68bo2bo!
4F synthesis of 2 ducks... is there a cheaper duck synthesis?

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x = 19, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4bo$3bobo10$17bo$18bo$bo15bo$o$bo3$2bobo$3bo!
A conglomerate of four adjustable spaceships whose square area grows at O(t):

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
8bo$obo$3bo2bobo$2bo4bo3$2bo4bo$bobo2bo$7bobo$bo!
Edit: p36 duck gun with confocaloid's synthesis

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x = 31, y = 25, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
9b18o$9b2o14b2o$9bo9bo6bo$8b2o9b2o5bo$10o5bo2b4o4bo$2o17b2o5bo$o18bo6b
o$o25bo$o25b2o$o3bo10bo4bo5b5o$o3bo4bo19b2o$o2bobo24bo$o2b3o24bo$o20b
o4bo3bo$o29bo$o3bo4bo20bo$o24b3o2bo$o24bobo2bo$2o19bo4bo3bo$5o21bo3bo
$4bo25bo$3bo25b2o$21b10o$21bo$22bo!
Edit2: Duck gun made much smaller at the cost of being goofy
Last edited by Chai on March 26th, 2023, 5:05 pm, edited 8 times in total.

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by confocaloid » January 1st, 2023, 12:56 am

Chai wrote:
December 31st, 2022, 6:13 pm
4F synthesis of 2 ducks... is there a cheaper duck synthesis?

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x = 19, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4bo$3bobo10$17bo$18bo$bo15bo$o$bo3$2bobo$3bo!
Possible in 3F with an added dot:

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
10b3o$11bo8$bo20bo$o20b2o$bo20bo$12bo!
Edit: a 3F synthesis is possible as well:

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
10b3o$11bo8$bo$o19bo$bo17b2o$20bo!
Another 3F synthesis:

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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
10b3o$11bo5$21bo$22bo$bo19bo$o$bo!
3F D+F:

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x = 21, y = 15, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
10b3o$11bo8$bo$o$bo$20bo$19b2o$20bo!
3F D+D:

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x = 18, y = 12, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
11bo$10bobo8$bo15bo$o15b2o$bo15bo!
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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by AlbertArmStain » January 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am

I think it's about time to try to make a orthogonoid.
Here are some reactions from the Sandbox:
Chai wrote:
January 1st, 2023, 1:16 am

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x = 670, y = 419, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8History
138$454.F$454.F$454.F$454.F$454.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F3.2F
2.3F.3F.3F.2F2.3F.F.F$454.F167.F3.F.F.F3.F4.F2.F.F.F.F.F.F$305.3F.F.F
.3F.3F.3F130.F167.F3.F.F.3F.3F2.F2.2F2.F.F2.F$305.F3.F.F2.F2.F4.F131.
F167.F3.F.F.F5.F2.F2.F.F.F.F2.F$305.3F.3F2.F2.3F2.F131.F167.F3.2F2.3F
.3F2.F2.F.F.3F2.F$307.F.F.F2.F2.F4.F131.F167.F$305.3F.F.F.3F.F4.F131.
F167.F$454.F11.3F.3F.2F2.3F141.F$454.F11.F4.F2.F.F.F143.F$454.F11.3F2.
F2.2F2.3F141.F$454.F11.F4.F2.F.F.F143.F$454.F11.F3.3F.F.F.3F141.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F33.A$454.
F167.F34.A10.A$330.3F5.F.F113.F167.F33.A12.A$332.F2.2F.F.F113.F167.F20.
A24.A$330.3F5.3F113.F167.F21.A$332.F7.F113.F167.F20.A$330.3F.F5.F113.
F167.F11.A$334.F119.F167.F$333.F120.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F38.F3.F2.3F.3F.2F2.3F107.F$454.F35.2F.F3.F2.F4.F2.F.F.F109.
F$454.F38.F3.F2.3F2.F2.2F2.3F107.F$454.F38.F3.F2.F4.F2.F.F.F109.F$454.
F38.F.F.F2.F3.3F.F.F.3F107.F$454.F40.F126.F$324.A129.F39.F127.F$325.A
128.F167.F$324.A129.F167.F$310.A28.A31.A82.F167.F$340.A13.A17.A81.F167.
F$339.A15.A15.A82.F39.A127.F$354.A99.F40.A23.A102.F$454.F39.A25.A12.A
88.F$454.F27.A36.A14.A87.F$454.F28.A49.A13.A74.F$454.F27.A65.A73.F$454.
F16.A35.A39.A74.F$454.F53.A113.F$454.F52.A114.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F
$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$334.F3.F115.F
167.F$334.F3.F115.F167.F$334.F3.F115.F15.F151.F$334.F3.F115.F167.F$334.
F.F.F115.F167.F$336.F117.F31.3F3.3F3.3F.3F.2F2.3F109.F$335.F118.F33.F
3.F5.F4.F2.F.F.F111.F$454.F31.3F3.3F3.3F2.F2.2F2.3F109.F$454.F31.F7.F
3.F4.F2.F.F.F111.F$454.F31.3F.F.3F3.F3.3F.F.F.3F109.F$454.F35.F131.F$
454.F34.F132.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F
$351.A102.F167.F$352.A12.A88.F167.F$351.A14.A87.F167.F$322.A42.A88.F167.
F$323.A130.F167.F$322.A131.F167.F$309.A26.A117.F167.F$337.A116.F27.A139.
F$336.A117.F28.A22.A115.F$454.F27.A24.A114.F$454.F51.A115.F$454.F16.A
46.A103.F$454.F39.A24.A102.F$454.F40.A22.A103.F$454.F39.A127.F$454.F167.
F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F35.3F3.3F2.3F.3F.2F2.3F106.F$454.F15.
F19.F.F3.F.F2.F4.F2.F.F.F108.F$454.F35.F.F3.F.F2.3F2.F2.2F2.3F106.F$454.
F35.F.F3.F.F2.F4.F2.F.F.F108.F$454.F35.3F.F.3F2.F3.3F.F.F.3F106.F$454.
F39.F127.F$454.F38.F128.F$329.3F3.3F116.F167.F$331.F3.F.F116.F167.F$329.
3F3.F.F116.F167.F$329.F5.F.F116.F167.F$329.3F.F.3F116.F167.F$333.F120.
F167.F$332.F121.F167.F$454.F136.A30.F$416.A37.F137.A12.A16.F$417.A36.
F136.A14.A15.F$405.A10.A37.F53.A53.A42.A16.F$323.A40.A29.A11.A47.F54.
A53.A58.F$324.A10.A29.A29.A9.A48.F15.A37.A39.A13.A59.F$323.A12.A27.A14.
A14.A59.F28.A65.A26.A45.F$310.A24.A13.A30.A48.A24.F29.A49.A13.A28.A44.
F$350.A28.A50.A23.F28.A36.A14.A40.A45.F$349.A79.A24.F40.A25.A12.A87.F
$454.F41.A23.A101.F$454.F40.A126.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$310.F143.F167.F$352.
F.F3.F95.F167.F$352.F.F3.F95.F167.F$352.3F3.F95.F167.F$354.F3.F95.F167.
F$354.F.F.F95.F167.F$356.F97.F167.F$355.F98.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.
F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.
F$332.A121.F167.F$333.A120.F167.F$332.A121.F167.F$319.A134.F167.F$320.
A38.A69.A24.F167.F$319.A40.A11.A57.A23.F167.F$310.A34.A13.A13.A11.A32.
A10.A24.F167.F$346.A25.A13.A9.A22.A34.F167.F$345.A39.A11.A9.A10.A35.F
167.F$396.A11.A45.F167.F$407.A46.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.
F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$320.3F5.F125.F167.F$320.F.F2.2F.F125.F167.F$320.F.F
5.F125.F167.F$320.F.F5.F125.F167.F$320.3F.F3.F125.F167.F$324.F129.F167.
F$323.F130.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.
F$331.A122.F167.F$332.A121.F167.F$331.A15.A106.F167.F$318.A29.A105.F167.
F$319.A27.A106.F167.F$318.A135.F167.F$310.A143.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.
F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.
F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$336.
F3.F113.F167.F$333.2F.F3.F113.F167.F$336.F3.F113.F167.F$336.F3.F113.F
167.F$336.F.F.F113.F167.F$338.F115.F167.F$337.F116.F167.F$454.F167.F$
454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$454.F167.F$377.A76.F167.F$337.A40.A75.
F167.F$338.A24.A13.A76.F167.F$337.A26.A89.F167.F$323.A39.A90.F167.F$324.
A129.F167.F$323.A129.F168.F$310.A37.A104.F168.F$349.A103.F168.F$348.A
104.F168.F$453.F168.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.
F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.
F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.
F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.
F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.
F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$453.F167.F$621.F$621.
F$621.F$621.F$621.F!
Here are mine from earlier:

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x = 24, y = 279, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
23bo2$bo4$bo$3o8$bo$3o12$bo$3o9$obo$bo17$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o10$obo$bo8$bo
$3o11$obo$bo17$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o10$obo$bo8$bo$3o10$obo$bo18$23bo2$bo4$b
o$3o9$obo$bo7$obo$bo31$23bo2$bo4$bo$3o7$obo$bo6$bo$3o6$bo$3o6$bo$3o7$
obo$bo9$obo$bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Chai » January 2nd, 2023, 7:25 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
January 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
I think it's about time to try to make a orthogonoid.
Single-channel push and fire operations. Maybe someone can find an odd-numbered pull reaction? If so, the dot would be a fully operable construction arm.
Edit: +2 changed to +3
Edit: I will be using this post for known single channel operations.

Move:

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x = 34, y = 29, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
2bo21$9bo8bo6bo7bo$4bo3b2o9bo6bo5b2o$9bo8bo6bo7bo3$b4o$bo2bo$o2bo!
Fire:

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x = 49, y = 29, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
2bo21$9bo9bo9bo9bo7bo$4bo3b2o10bo7b2o10bo7bo$9bo9bo9bo9bo7bo3$b4o$bo2b
o$o2bo!

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x = 93, y = 29, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
6bo21$18bo7bo6bo9bo7bo16bo6bo6bo8bo$4bo14bo5b2o7bo7b2o8bo16bo6bo6bo8b
o$18bo7bo6bo9bo7bo16bo6bo6bo8bo3$b4o$bo2bo$o2bo!

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x = 50, y = 29, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
6bo21$17bo7bo8bo6bo7bo$4bo13bo5b2o7b2o5b2o6b2o$17bo7bo8bo6bo7bo3$b4o$
bo2bo$o2bo!
Last edited by Chai on March 23rd, 2023, 7:10 pm, edited 17 times in total.

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Ohhhhhhhhh » January 2nd, 2023, 10:16 pm

Chai wrote:
January 2nd, 2023, 7:25 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote:
January 2nd, 2023, 9:37 am
I think it's about time to try to make a orthogonoid.
Single-channel push and fire operations. Maybe someone can find an odd-numbered pull reaction? If so, the dot would be a fully operable construction arm.

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x = 125, y = 57, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8History
6$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$14.3F3.3F.3F.2F2.3F33.F41.3F$11.F4.F3.F4.F2.F.F
.F35.F38.F4.F$10.3F.3F3.3F2.F2.2F2.3F33.F37.3F.3F$11.F2.F5.F4.F2.F.F.
F35.F38.F2.F$14.3F3.F3.3F.F.F.3F33.F41.3F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.
F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$2.A65.F24.A$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$
68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F$68.F
$68.F$9.A9.A9.A9.A7.A20.F31.A8.A6.A7.A$4.A3.2A10.A7.2A10.A7.A19.F26.A
3.2A9.A6.A5.2A$9.A9.A9.A9.A7.A20.F31.A8.A6.A7.A$68.F$68.F$.4A63.F23.4A
$.A2.A63.F23.A2.A$A2.A64.F22.A2.A$68.F!
You counted wrong - it’s 3 cell push with fire.
I’m working on the pull - since we have both 2 and 3 push it won’t be hard to find an available pull.
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something useless:

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 #CXRLE Pos=-8,-6
x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo$6bo$4b3o$9b2o$9b2o3$3o$2bo$bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Chai » January 20th, 2023, 4:30 pm

A pattern producing novelty until past the 15 millionth generation.

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x = 174, y = 103, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
3$15bo2$15bo$13b5o$14b3o$13b2ob2o$13bobobo$13b5o136bo$13bo3bo$13b2ob2o
136bo$13b5o134b5o$12b7o134b3o$10bo3b3o3bo131b2ob2o$9b3ob2ob2ob3o130bob
obo$10bo2bo3bo2bo131b5o$10bo2b5o2bo131bo3bo$13bo3bo84bo49b2ob2o$14bobo
135b5o$13b5o84bo48b7o$13b5o82b5o44bo3b3o3bo$13b5o83b3o44b3ob2ob2ob3o$
15bo84b2ob2o44bo2bo3bo2bo$13bobobo82bobobo44bo2b5o2bo$13bobobo82b5o47b
o3bo$13bobobo82bo3bo48bobo$12bo5bo81b2ob2o47b5o$13bobobo82b5o47b5o$13b
o3bo81b7o46b5o$10bob2o3b2obo76bo3b3o3bo46bo$11b3o3b3o76b3ob2ob2ob3o43b
obobo$12b2o3b2o78bo2bo3bo2bo44bobobo$13bo3bo79bo2b5o2bo44bobobo$9bobob
o3bobobo78bo3bo46bo5bo$13bo3bo83bobo48bobobo$10bo2bo3bo2bo79b5o47bo3bo
$11b3o3b3o80b5o44bob2o3b2obo$9b2o2bo3bo2b2o78b5o45b3o3b3o$11b3o3b3o82b
o48b2o3b2o$10b4o3b4o79bobobo47bo3bo$10bob2o3b2obo79bobobo43bobobo3bobo
bo$10b2o2bobo2b2o79bobobo47bo3bo$12bob3obo80bo5bo43bo2bo3bo2bo$9b3o2b
3o2b3o78bobobo45b3o3b3o$9b3o2b3o2b3o78bo3bo43b2o2bo3bo2b2o$9bobob5obob
o75bob2o3b2obo42b3o3b3o$14b3o81b3o3b3o42b4o3b4o$13b2ob2o81b2o3b2o43bob
2o3b2obo$14b3o83bo3bo44b2o2bobo2b2o$15bo80bobobo3bobobo42bob3obo$13bob
obo82bo3bo43b3o2b3o2b3o$12b7o78bo2bo3bo2bo40b3o2b3o2b3o$12b3ob3o79b3o
3b3o41bobob5obobo$12b2o3b2o77b2o2bo3bo2b2o44b3o$14bobo81b3o3b3o45b2ob
2o$12bo2bo2bo78b4o3b4o45b3o$12bobobobo78bob2o3b2obo46bo$12bo2bo2bo78b
2o2bobo2b2o44bobobo$13b2ob2o81bob3obo45b7o$11bobobobobo76b3o2b3o2b3o
42b3ob3o$11b4ob4o76b3o2b3o2b3o42b2o3b2o$11bo2bobo2bo76bobob5obobo44bob
o$11bob5obo81b3o47bo2bo2bo$11bob5obo80b2ob2o46bobobobo$11b2o5b2o81b3o
47bo2bo2bo$11bo2bobo2bo82bo49b2ob2o$11bo2bobo2bo80bobobo45bobobobobo$
11b3obob3o79b7o44b4ob4o$11b9o79b3ob3o44bo2bobo2bo$99b2o3b2o44bob5obo$
14bobo84bobo46bob5obo$14b3o82bo2bo2bo44b2o5b2o$15bo83bobobobo44bo2bobo
2bo$15bo83bo2bo2bo44bo2bobo2bo$100b2ob2o45b3obob3o$98bobobobobo43b9o$
98b4ob4o$98bo2bobo2bo46bobo$98bob5obo46b3o$98bob5obo47bo$98b2o5b2o47bo
$98bo2bobo2bo$98bo2bobo2bo$98b3obob3o$98b9o2$101bobo$101b3o$102bo$12bo
5bo83bo$155bo7$102bo$101bo!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by confocaloid » January 20th, 2023, 6:43 pm

Natural yl84 puffer:

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#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl84_1_32_51e8539c49fddd5b9b9b33dcf7220a7e/b2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78s01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
#C https://catagolue.hatsya.com/hashsoup/C1/k_zhBpPBfCp6es312/b2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78s01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
#C Soup k_zhBpPBfCp6es312 was found on 2023-01-20 at 20:01:28 UTC and is owned by Anonymous
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
obobobooooobobob$
boobbbbooobboobb$
bboboobooboobbob$
obboobooobbbbbbb$
bobboboobbbooooo$
bbbobbooboobboob$
bbbbbobbbobbbbbo$
oobobobbbooobobo$
oooboobooboooobb$
obobbobbbbbbooob$
bobooboooooobbob$
oobobobbbbobooob$
oobbooboobboooob$
bobboobbbboboobb$
booooooobboboobb$
obbboboboooobbob!
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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by pipsqueek » January 20th, 2023, 8:17 pm

6 frog c/4 wickstretcher synthesis

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x = 25, y = 19, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
12bo$11bobo6$10bo3bo$9bo3b2o$10bo3bo2$bo21bo$o23bo$bo21bo4$11bobo$12bo!
c/3 double wickstretcher synthesis that also costs 6 frogs

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x = 33, y = 13, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
14b3o$15bo3$bo$o9bo12bo7bo$bo8b2o10b2o8bo$10bo12bo7bo4$15bo$14b3o!
8 frogs for single sided

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x = 33, y = 14, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
14b3o$15bo3$bo$o9bo12bo7bo$bo8b2o10b2o8bo$10bo12bo7bo4$5bo9bo10bo$4bo
9b3o10bo$5bo20bo!
EDIT: compact duck gun

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x = 34, y = 25, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
21bo2bo$22bo2bo$22b4o3$23b2o8bo$21b2obo2bo3b2o$5bo2bo14b2o6bo$6bo2bo
21bobo$6b4o21b2o$25b2o$22bo2bob2o$6bobo16b2o$8bo2bo$6bobo$b2o14bo6b4o$
obo21bo2bo$2bo6bobo13bo2bo$b2o3bo2bo$o8bobo3$8b4o$8bo2bo$9bo2bo!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Chai » January 20th, 2023, 9:26 pm

A pattern using four of confocaloid's puffers that creates (and very eventually destroys) an infinite series of spaceships with distinct speeds - best viewed in Golly at step size 8^5

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x = 76, y = 73, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
4bo$3b3o2$3bobo$7bo$5bo$bo4bo11bobo$o3bo14bo$17b5o$19bo$18bob2o$15b2ob
obo$16bo39$64bobo$63b2obobo$65b3o$63b2obobo$66bo$62b2o$63bo8$71bo$69bo
$70bobobo$68bo5b2o$72bobo2$69bo$68bo!
pipsqueek wrote:
January 20th, 2023, 8:17 pm
EDIT: compact duck gun

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x = 34, y = 25, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
21bo2bo$22bo2bo$22b4o3$23b2o8bo$21b2obo2bo3b2o$5bo2bo14b2o6bo$6bo2bo
21bobo$6b4o21b2o$25b2o$22bo2bob2o$6bobo16b2o$8bo2bo$6bobo$b2o14bo6b4o$
obo21bo2bo$2bo6bobo13bo2bo$b2o3bo2bo$o8bobo3$8b4o$8bo2bo$9bo2bo!
Reduced bounding box:

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x = 28, y = 21, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
14b14o$14bo12bo$13bo13bo$19b2o2bo3bo$18b2obobo3bo$3bo15b2o2bo3bo$4bo22b
o$5o22bo$o17bo2b2o4bo$o17bobob2o3bo$o4b2o11bo2b2o4bo$o2b2obo2bo17bo$o
4b2o20bo$o13bo8b5o$o22bo$o6b2o15bo$o3bo2bob2o$o6b2o$o13bo$o12bo$14o!
Edit: It's worth noting that the bounding box can be reduced by one cell horizontally at the cost of doubling the period of the gun

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by pipsqueek » January 21st, 2023, 10:57 am

yl84 synthesis with 5 frogs

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x = 24, y = 10, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
22bo$23bo$bo20bo$o$bo2$9bo3bo$bo7b2o3bo$b2o6bo3bo$bo!
the c/4 wickstretcher synthesis could probably be reduced because the frontend can be synthesized with 3 frogs

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x = 10, y = 17, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
bo$obo7$8bo$9bo$8bo5$bo$3o!

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x=17,y=16,rule=B3/S23
3bo3bobo2bob2o$bobo4bo4b4o$bobo5bobo2b3o$b2obob2o3b2o$3o4b2ob2o2b2o$4b
o4bo$4b2obobob2ob3o$3ob3o2b2o$b3o2bobobo5bo$o3b2o3bobo2b2o$4bo3bob2o3b
o$2obo2bobobo2b2o$3b3o5bo2b2o$2obo4bo2bob2o$o3bob2obo3b2o$2bo8bobobo![[ STOP 3 GPS 4 ]]

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by Chai » January 21st, 2023, 4:39 pm

A very chaotic interaction between two different puffers - no signs of regularity after more than 100 million ticks

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x = 87, y = 134, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
3bo$2b3o$3bo$3bo2$3bo$bo3bo$3bo$b2ob2o3$2bobo5$3bo$o5bo$bo3bo3$3bo5$3b
o$3bo$bobobo$3bo$3bo79$69bo5bobo$74b2obo$78bobo$77bo2b2o$66bobobo7bobo
$65bobobo6b2o$66b3o8bo$65bobobo2bo$66bobo6$81bo$74bo4bo$80bo3bo$82bobo
bo$72bobo8b3o$72bob2o8bobo$74bo7bobo$69b2o3b2o5bo$77bo$72bo$72bo!
...Still no luck on finding a pull operation for the dot elbow...
Last edited by Chai on January 21st, 2023, 6:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by C_R_116 » January 21st, 2023, 5:57 pm

Simple Frog Bit/Reflector

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x = 63, y = 37, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
7$14bo2bo$15bo2bo$15b4o2$46bo2bo$45bo2bo$6bo8bo29b4o$7b2o3bo2b2obo$8bo
6bo$6bobo33bo$7b2o30bo2b2obo$42bo$15bo$12bob2o2bo30b2o$15bo33bobo$42bo
6bo$39bob2o2bo3b2o$9b4o29bo8bo$9bo2bo$8bo2bo2$39b4o$39bo2bo$40bo2bo!
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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by breaker's glider gun » January 21st, 2023, 8:49 pm

C_R_116 wrote:
January 21st, 2023, 5:57 pm
Simple Frog Bit/Reflector

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x = 63, y = 37, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
7$14bo2bo$15bo2bo$15b4o2$46bo2bo$45bo2bo$6bo8bo29b4o$7b2o3bo2b2obo$8bo
6bo$6bobo33bo$7b2o30bo2b2obo$42bo$15bo$12bob2o2bo30b2o$15bo33bobo$42bo
6bo$39bob2o2bo3b2o$9b4o29bo8bo$9bo2bo$8bo2bo2$39b4o$39bo2bo$40bo2bo!
How is that a bit OR a reflector?
:?: :?: . . . :!:
Give me a suggestion of something to draw here!

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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by C_R_116 » January 21st, 2023, 9:03 pm

breaker's glider gun wrote:
January 21st, 2023, 8:49 pm
C_R_116 wrote:
January 21st, 2023, 5:57 pm
Simple Frog Bit/Reflector

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x = 63, y = 37, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
7$14bo2bo$15bo2bo$15b4o2$46bo2bo$45bo2bo$6bo8bo29b4o$7b2o3bo2b2obo$8bo
6bo$6bobo33bo$7b2o30bo2b2obo$42bo$15bo$12bob2o2bo30b2o$15bo33bobo$42bo
6bo$39bob2o2bo3b2o$9b4o29bo8bo$9bo2bo$8bo2bo2$39b4o$39bo2bo$40bo2bo!
How is that a bit OR a reflector?
I used two frogs to catalyze each other. A long ship can do the same thing.

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
8bo2bo$9bo2bo$9b4o4$o8bo$b2o3bo2b2obo$2bo6bo15b2o$obo21bobo$b2o20bobo
$23b2o$9bo$6bob2o2bo$9bo3$3b4o$3bo2bo$2bo2bo!
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Re: Duck And Frog (B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8)

Post by breaker's glider gun » January 22nd, 2023, 11:35 am

C_R_116 wrote:
breaker's glider gun wrote:
C_R_116 wrote: Simple Frog Bit/Reflector

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x = 63, y = 37, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
7$14bo2bo$15bo2bo$15b4o2$46bo2bo$45bo2bo$6bo8bo29b4o$7b2o3bo2b2obo$8bo
6bo$6bobo33bo$7b2o30bo2b2obo$42bo$15bo$12bob2o2bo30b2o$15bo33bobo$42bo
6bo$39bob2o2bo3b2o$9b4o29bo8bo$9bo2bo$8bo2bo2$39b4o$39bo2bo$40bo2bo!
How is that a bit OR a reflector?
I used two frogs to catalyze each other. A long ship can do the same thing.

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x = 27, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aery4eqr5aeiq6acn78/S01c2ei3-i4ijrtz5ainry7c8
8bo2bo$9bo2bo$9b4o4$o8bo$b2o3bo2b2obo$2bo6bo15b2o$obo21bobo$b2o20bobo
$23b2o$9bo$6bob2o2bo$9bo3$3b4o$3bo2bo$2bo2bo!
Ah now I see! It's a bit with output. Just add a few reflectors and it's a binary cell!
:?: :?: . . . :!:
Give me a suggestion of something to draw here!

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