LifeWiki Trusted Account Request Thread - Post requests here

[Haycat2009]

Just searched the website that the spammer left on many pages they vandalised. Apparently the wiki contains NSFW and 90% of all spam posts and uploads were based on the website.

[Mathemagician314]

Can I be trusted to edit posts? I'm just getting into CGOL but I understand a lot of the concepts and I won't mess around with the pages. If I can't that's fine; I just thought the only reason this existed was to prevent bots and spammers but maybe I'm wrong. If you can give me permission to edit posts, that would be great!

[dvgrn]

If I can't that's fine; I just thought the only reason this existed was to prevent bots and spammers but maybe I'm wrong.

You've got it right. Normally I just add a "like" to request posts in this thread (to signify that the request has been taken care of). But in this case -- welcome to the forums and the LifeWiki!

[hotcrystal0]

Can I be trusted to edit posts? I'm just getting into CGOL but I understand a lot of the concepts and I won't mess around with the pages. If I can't that's fine; I just thought the only reason this existed was to prevent bots and spammers but maybe I'm wrong. If you can give me permission to edit posts, that would be great!

Don't you mean edit articles?

[confocaloid]

Don't you mean edit articles?

Actually 'pages' - articles are just those pages directly intended for LifeWiki readers (basically, the main namespace and the OCA namespace). Userpages, templates, talk pages, etc. aren't articles.

[hotdogPi]

Don't you mean edit articles?

Actually 'pages' - articles are just those pages directly intended for LifeWiki readers (basically, the main namespace and the OCA namespace). Userpages, templates, talk pages, etc. aren't articles.

"Article" has a completely different meaning on LifeWiki than it does on Wikipedia.

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Articles
https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Ar ... e_crossers

[dvgrn]

"Article" has a completely different meaning on LifeWiki than it does on Wikipedia.

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Articles
https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Ar ... e_crossers

Well, I dunno. "LifeWiki:Articles" are indeed something completely different from Wikipedia articles, but I think it's still just fine to call main-namespace and OCA-namespace pages on the LifeWiki "articles", and basically everything else "not articles".

LifeWiki:Articles is an attempt to reserve a space for collaborative LifeViewer-illustrated articles -- which could end up looking pretty good in that format, I think. No "LifeWiki:Articles" articles have been completed as yet, but maybe someday some will be!

[Mathemagician314]

Sorry - I meant pages. Sorry for the confusion.

[haaaaaands]

Sorry - I meant pages. Sorry for the confusion.

happens to me too ;)

[Chokerless]

hi!!! hello!!

here to ask for permissions to edit/create pages after procrastinating making an account for like 2 years and lurking on cgolcord
(may i have said permissions i want to share my barely successful attempts at rulegolfing)


(have a great day yall)

[dvgrn]

here to ask for permissions to edit/create pages after procrastinating making an account for like 2 years and lurking on cgolcord
(may i have said permissions i want to share my barely successful attempts at rulegolfing)

Done! Maybe try posting some of your rulegolfing attempts on the OCA board here on the forums first, though.

The LifeWiki isn't usually the first place where this community hears about new results. It's good to give the local experts here on the forums a few opportunities to give you gentle hints about the notability of things -- before you jump right in to creating LifeWiki articles.

[Value1]

Hello! May I be trusted? I'm planning on exploring OCA.

Thanks,
- Value1

[azulavoir]

I would like a trusting (same name as here) for the entire purpose of uploading ruletables to save space on the forums and/or in my own Lifeviewer usage.

[ilo Lisipo]

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/User:%E3%80 ... o%E3%80%8F

I gave myself a silly name to get around Mediawiki restrictions on capital letters

Relatedly, there doesn't appear to be a notability policy on rules/OCA other than the GNG. Should there be? There are plenty of rules with no article that have (subjectively) interesting properties (e.g. ShipWorld) but I'm not sure what the requirements are for a standalone OCA-space article

[HerscheltheHerschel]

Can Confocal be trusted again?

[dvgrn]

Can Confocal be trusted again?

Sure! confocaloid and I have been exchanging private messages quite regularly, recently -- keeping things off the forums, since the community seemed pretty clear that lots more Wallotext discussions in public on this topic wouldn't be appreciated.

If confocaloid decides to agree to try following LW:DR rules, a public statement of that intention is all that's needed to get that trusted flag turned back on again. This thread would be as good a place as any to post that statement.

Of course other moderators might decide to get involved, in which case there might be other ways to get that trusted flag restored, and/or other conditions that they might want to mention. But for the moment it seems like I'm the one who is "on the job" (or maybe I mean "on the hook") for this issue.

[confocaloid]

If confocaloid decides to agree to try following LW:DR rules,

My latest edit ( https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff ... did=142757 ) specifically linked to LifeWiki:Dispute resolution, both in the edit summary and in the content change. It would be strange for me to link to that policy page, if I didn't intend to follow it myself.

[...] Unfortunately, if you keep on implicitly insisting that what you've been doing is not edit warring ... [...]

This claim is false. Considering its context, I read it as a way to distract attention, and to avoid discussing the underlying issues / resolving the actual disagreements.
It is false because my linked post in particular doesn't contain any statements at all about whether or not something is edit warring. And more generally, I don't remember or find any cases when I was "insisting" that something I did "is not edit warring".

I don't really know why they make false claims. Perhaps they don't understand that the claim is false, or maybe they do understand but believe this is a good thing to do.
From my own direct experience, this is a consistent pattern (of asserting something that is known to be incorrect), rather than an isolated case. Below is quoted another example where they made a false assertion ("fairly broad agreement" etc.) Only ~2 months later they silently edited the post to add a remark that could probably be read as admission that the claim was incorrect --

I think the linked post specifically clarifies that existence of four-row Gardens of Eden is still open...

Seems like there's probably fairly broad agreement that a '"four-row Garden of Eden" implies that all required cells fit in four rows. The main thing that leaves the question still open is the lack of any independent review or verification.

EDIT 9/22/2023: See below -- confocaloid is completely correct on this. Looking back at the exchange today, I see that I added a "like" to that post when it was made. Just adding this note now to make sure the resolution was clear.

I think making false claims is destructive.

[affamatodidio]

Affamato trusted tag, if you would

[LviDaGenius]

Hello, I have discovered a 408 period oscillator . I would like to post my discovery on the wiki to verify. is this okay with you?

[hotdogPi]

Hello, I have discovered a 408 period oscillator . I would like to post my discovery on the wiki to verify. is this okay with you?

You can post it on the forums rather than the wiki.

[Haycat2009]

Hello, I have discovered a 408 period oscillator . I would like to post my discovery on the wiki to verify. is this okay with you?

Is it LCM or hassler?

[LviDaGenius]

I'll just post a picture

408-period oscillator.png (199.62 KiB) Viewed 923 times

is this an oscillator or a group?

[LviDaGenius]

here's the RLE
#C [[ ZOOM 16 GRID COLOR GRID 192 192 192 GRIDMAJOR 10 COLOR GRIDMAJOR 128 128 128 COLOR DEADRAMP 255 220 192 COLOR ALIVE 0 0 0 COLOR DEAD 192 220 255 COLOR BACKGROUND 255 255 255 GPS 10 WIDTH 937 HEIGHT 600 ]]
x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b3o7b2o$28bo6bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o$30bo$28b2obo$12b2o$13bo12bo3b
o2bo$13bob2o8bob2o4bo$14b2obo7bo6bo$16b3o4bobo7b3o$17b3o3b2o10bo$17b2o
bo2$18bob2o$2bo11b2o3b3o$2b3o8bobo4b3o$5bo7bo7bob2o$4b2o5bobo8b2obo$11b
2o12bo$6b3o16b2o$5bo2bo$8bo$7bo$3bo$2bob2o4b2o$2bo7bo$obo8b3o$2o11bo!

[confocaloid]

I'll just post a picture 408-period oscillator.png is this an oscillator or a group?

here's the RLE [...]

This is indeed a period-408 oscillator. However, this oscillator is trivial, because no single cell oscillates with period 408.
(There are 60 cells oscillating with period 17, 28 cells oscillating with period 12, 40 cells oscillating with period 8, one cell oscillating with period 3, and 64 cells that are always alive (stator cells).)
Trivial oscillators are not usually considered interesting, because it is easy to make them by placing two different oscillators near each other.

You can post patterns like this, by putting the RLE inside [code] ... [/code] tags:

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b3o7b2o$28bo6bo$27b2o4bobo$33b2o$30bo$28b2obo$12b2o$13bo12bo3bo
2bo$13bob2o8bob2o4bo$14b2obo7bo6bo$16b3o4bobo7b3o$17b3o3b2o10bo$17b2ob
o2$18bob2o$2bo11b2o3b3o$2b3o8bobo4b3o$5bo7bo7bob2o$4b2o5bobo8b2obo$11b
2o12bo$6b3o16b2o$5bo2bo$8bo$7bo$3bo$2bob2o4b2o$2bo7bo$obo8b3o$2o11bo!

[GamerK]

Pls give me the ability to edit pages on the lifewiki