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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 27th, 2023, 5:36 am

confocaloid wrote:
August 27th, 2023, 4:30 am
88P93 gives duoplet sparks and can separate closely spaced parallel glider streams

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x = 123, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
72bo$70b3o$69bo20bo$69b2o18bo2$66b2o5b2o$66bobo4b2o21b2o$67b2o20b3o4b
2o$91bo$79b2o$77b2obo$77b2ob2o$77b2ob2o$79b2obo$63b2o16b3o2bo$63b2o16b
obobobo7b2o$82bo5bo6b2o$83bo4bo$79bo3bo3bo$78bobo3bo2bo$5bo12bo60bo$4b
o2b2o6b2o2bo$9b2o2b2o$6b2ob2o2b2ob2o65bo$2o5bo2bo2bo2bo5b2o51bo2bo3bob
o$2o8bo2bo8b2o51bo3bo3bo$6bo3bo2bo3bo56bo4bo$6bo2bo4bo2bo48b2o6bo5bo$
6bobo6bobo48b2o7bobobobo16b2o$76bo2b3o16b2o$6bobo6bobo62bob2o$6bo2bo4b
o2bo63b2ob2o$6bo3bo2bo3bo63b2ob2o$2o8bo2bo8b2o58bob2o$2o5bo2bo2bo2bo5b
2o58b2o$6b2ob2o2b2ob2o53bo$9b2o2b2o50b2o4b3o20b2o$4bo2b2o6b2o2bo45b2o
21b2o4bobo$5bo12bo69b2o5b2o2$73bo18b2o$72bo20bo$90b3o$90bo19$44bo$43b
2o$43bobo$98bo$97b2o$97bobo16$105b3o$105bo$106bo$66b3o$66bo$48b3o16bo$
48bo71b3o$49bo70bo$121bo!
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It's worth noting that the block in BRx46B can be placed in one of two different locations:

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x = 90, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
6bob2o65bob2o$6b3o66b3o$b2o4bo62b2o4bo$b2o67b2o7$6b2o61b2o4b2o$2o3bo2b
o60b2o3bo2bo$2o4b2o67b2o15$11b2o5b3o59b2o5b3o$10b2o6bo60b2o6bo$12bo6bo
61bo6bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Haycat2009 » August 27th, 2023, 7:20 am

H-M with repeat time 112, made with Fx198, the snark and primitive H-MWSS. HT279M?

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x = 91, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
40b2o$40bobo$42bo4b2o$38b4ob2o2bo2bo$38bo2bobobobob2o$41bobobobo$42b2o
bobo$46bo2$32b2o$33bo7b2o$33bobo5b2o$34b2o7$44b2o$44bo$45b3o$47bo7$13b
o$4bo8b3o$4b3o9bo$7bo7b2o$6b2o7$5bo$5bobo13bo$5b3o12bobo$7bo11bo2bo$20b
2o16b2o$37bobo$17b2o19bo$3bo3b2o7bobo69b2o$2bobo3bo7bo71bobo$bobo3bo7b
2o72bo$bo4bo$2o5b3o$9bo2$26b2o$26b2o3$72b2o$72b2o$51b2o$51b2o$31b2o$25b
2o3bo2bo$25b2o4b2o3$48b2o$48bo$49bo$48b2o!
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Is this the version with the least number of conduits?

I also do not know if it is Spartan if the snake is replaced with a fishhook and the eater 5 replaced with an eater 1 - is the snark spartan???
EDIT: More likely than not
Could it be used in a variation of the orthogonoid?
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » August 27th, 2023, 8:07 am

p126 jubjub reflector based on the new SKOP p126:

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x = 51, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
35bo$33b3o6b2o3bo$32bo9bobobobo$32b2o10bob2o$9b2o32bobo$10bo32bobob3o
$10bobo31b2obo2bo$11b2o36b2o$29bo$27b2ob2o$27bo2bo$28b2o5$41bo$42b2o$
14bo25b2o$14bo27bo$14bo2$10b3o2$bo12bo4b2o$b2o11bo4bobo$obo11bo6bo$21b
2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C_R_116 » August 27th, 2023, 6:37 pm

Hmmm...

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x = 47, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
39b2o$29bo8bobo$3bo23b3o8bobobo$3b3o20bo8b2obo2bobo$6bo19b2o6bo2bobobo
2bo$5b2o26bobo3bobob2o$34bo3b2obo$41bob2o$41bobo2bo$30b2o4b2o4bo2b2o$
29bo2bo2bo2bo$30b2o4b2o4bo2b2o$3bob2o34bobo2bo$b3ob2o34bob2o$o33bo3b2o
bo$b3ob2o26bobo3bobob2o$3bobo28bo2bobobo2bo$3bobo29b2obo2bobo$4bo33bob
obo$38bobo$17b3o19b2o$18bo8b2o$18b3o6bo$28b3o$30bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by nokangaroo » August 28th, 2023, 6:03 am

132p37 as color-changing reflector

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x = 70, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
18.A$18.3A$21.A3.3B$20.2A.7B$20.6BA3B.2B36.B$22.2B2AB2A3B2A34.2B$20.
3B5A2B.B2A33.A2B$19.4B3A5B.B33.BABA$19.11B35.2B2A$15.2B2A10B35.4B$15.
BA2BA10B2AB30.4B$14.2BAB2A9BA2BAB28.4B$12.4BA3B.2A10BAB26.4B$5.2A4.B
4A4B2A11BAB25.4B$4.B2AB2.BA21BA2B23.4B$4.3B3.A5B.3B2A7BA3BA4B20.BA2B$
5.B.B2.A5B.3BA8BA2.2B3AB19.2A2B$3.6B.BA3B2AB2A7B.9BA18.2B2A$3.2BA12B
2A8B2A5BABA7.2A8.4B$2.3B2A10B.10B2A5B2A3B5.A8.4B$2.2BABA23B2ABA.6B.BA
.A7.4B$2.3B3A23BAB2A6B.B2A7.4B$3.2B3A26BA8B8.4B$3.3B2A15B.15B2A3B6.4B
$4.8BA26B3A2B5.A3B$2.2AB.6B2ABA23B3A3B3.A3B$.A.AB.6B.AB2A23BABA3B.B3A
$.A5.3B2A5B2A10B.10B2A8B$2A7.ABA5B2A8B2A12BA7B$9.A9B.7B2AB2A3BAB.6B.
4B$9.B3A2B2.A8BA3B.5BA2.B.B4.4B$9.4BA3BA7B2A3B.5BA3.3B4.3BA$11.2BA21B
AB2.B2AB5.3BA$12.BA11B2A4B4AB4.2A7.3A$12.BA10B2A.3BA4B$13.BA2BA9B2ABA
2B$14.B2A10BA2BAB$18.10B2A2B$17.11B$14.B.5B3A4B$13.2AB.2B5A3B$13.2A3B
2AB2A2B$14.2B.3BA6B$17.7B.2A$19.3B3.A$26.3A$28.A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sokwe » August 28th, 2023, 7:00 am

nokangaroo wrote:
August 28th, 2023, 6:03 am
132p37 as color-changing reflector
This reflection reaction can be seen on the wiki page for Beluchenko's other p37, along with a few 180-degree reflections.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » August 28th, 2023, 1:18 pm

Scorpion shifter by 3 cells downwards :

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x = 43, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o3$28bo$28bobo$28b2o$40bo$40bobo$40b2o18$10bo$8b3o$7bo3b2o$7bo
bobobo$8b2obobo$12bo5$16b3o$16bo$17bo!
I am not surprised if a transparent scorpion can be made. Just collide with a glider, tame the debris into an r-pentomino in the right location, then add a sparker to provide the crucial spark.
EDIT: 2 gliders output along with only a single tub, all in 4G:

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x = 40, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo34bo$3o34bobo$37b2o2$28bo$28bobo$28b2o21$10bo$8b3o$7bo3b2o$7bobo
bobo$8b2obobo$12bo5$16b3o$16bo$17bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Jormungant » August 29th, 2023, 4:22 am

Clean shift, with 4 gliders still:

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x = 60, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
4$4bo$5b2o$4b2o3$22bo$23bo$21b3o3$49bo$49bobo$49b2o21$31bo$29b3o$28bo
3b2o$28bobobobo$29b2obobo$33bo5$37b3o$37bo$38bo!


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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » August 29th, 2023, 8:44 am

Callahan G-to-H can be followed by HRx65R + RF48H + F171

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x = 73, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
5.BC13.A21.4B$4.CBCB10.3A20.4B$5.2C2B8.A22.4B$6.4B6.B2A20.4B$2.2A3.4B
3.5B19.4B$3.A4.4B2.3B20.4B$3.A.AB2.8B19.4B$4.2AB.8BA2B16.4B$6.2B2D5BA
BA3B13.4B$5.2BD2BD4BABA3B12.4B$6.2B2D6BA2B.B2A9.4B$4.2AB.11B.BA.A7.4B
$3.A.AB3.7B6.A6.4B$3.A7.4BD2B5.2A4.4B$2.2A7.3B2DB11.4B$11.3BDBDB9.4B$
11.8B7.4B$11.9B5.4B$11.5B.4B3.4B$10.7B.4B.4B$10.3B2A2B2.7B$11.2B2AB4.
5B$11.6B3.5B$11.6B2.7B$10.7B.4B.4B$10.6B.4B3.4B$11.9B5.4B$11.8B7.4B$
10.8B9.4B$10.7B11.4B33.2B$.2A7.6B13.4B7.A23.5B$2.A6.2B3D2B14.4B6.3A
20.7B$2.A.AB3.4BD2B15.4B8.A18.8B$3.2AB2.4B3DB16.4B6.2A18.9B$5.11B17.
4B5.6B14.10B$5.11B18.4B6.5B14.8BA$5.11B19.4B4.7B12.8BABA$4.11B21.4B2.
8B10.10BABA$5.7B25.14B2.2B2.14BAB$2A3.8B25.22BD11B$.A4.8B20.2A3.21BDB
D9B$.A.AB.7B7.A14.A4.20B3D7B$2.2AB.8B4.3A14.A.AB.22BD7B$4.10B3.A18.2A
28B2.B$4.10B3.2A18.17B.4B$4.10BA4B20.19B$2.11BABAB13.A10.16B$.11BA2BA
B13.3A8.15B$2.11B2A4B14.A7.14B$2.18B12.2A3.B3.13B$2.4B2.11B13.8B.12B$
.4B3.11B15.18B$4B6.8B16.17B$3B7.8B15.17B$2B8.10B11.18B$B4.3B.11B4.2B
2.20B$5.26BD15B$4.27BDBD4B.9B$3.28B3D4B2.7B$4.29BD4B4.5B$5.32B3.5B$5.
2B2A16B.B.2B10.2A$5.BA2BA12B6.3B10.A$6.ABA12B4.4BA2B6.3A$6.BA13B3.4BA
BAB.2B3.A$6.16B3.2BA2BA3B2A$6.16B3.3B2A2B.B2A$8.13B3.AB2.5B.B$8.13B2.
A.A4.2B$8.12B3.2A4.2B$15.B12.B2AB$29.2A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » August 29th, 2023, 12:22 pm

Generation 21 of R-pentomino can be sparked to produce an edgy wevzy:

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
o$8bo$b2o4bobo$obo$o6bo$2obo3bo$3b2o2bo3bo$2b2o3bo$6b2o3bo$7bob2o$8bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » August 29th, 2023, 2:06 pm

confocaloid wrote:
August 29th, 2023, 8:44 am
Callahan G-to-H can be followed by HRx65R + RF48H + F171 ...
That seems new! Repeat time is 461 ticks, which means it would have set a new recovery-time record for stable reflectors (never mind G-to-Hs) up until September 2012.

It's also Spartan, not just neo-Spartan, and population 121 with 44x72 bounding box -- which is very good competition for the full cleaned-up Callahan G-to-H (population 110 but a 57x81 bounding box.)

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x = 145, y = 86, rule = B3/S23
bo89bo$2bo89bo$3o87b3o3$20bo89bo$18b3o87b3o$17bo89bo$17b2o88b2o$2b2o
88b2o$3bo89bo$3bobo87bobo$4b2o10bo77b2o10bo$15bobo87bobo$15bobo87bobo$
16bo4b2o83bo4b2o$4b2o15bobo70b2o15bobo$3bobo17bo69bobo17bo$3bo19b2o68b
o19b2o$2b2o88b2o6$13b2o88b2o$13b2o88b2o9$b2o37bo50b2o$2bo37b3o49bo$2bo
bo38bo48bobo$3b2o37b2o49b2o6$2o$bo32b2o$bobo16bo14bo$2b2o14b3o14bobo$
17bo18b2o$17b2o$14bo79b2o15b2o$13bobo14bo63b2o15bobo$12bo2bo14b3o80bo$
13b2o18bo79b2o$32b2o5$107bo$105b3o$104bo$104b2o20bo$110bo15b3o$108b3o
18bo$107bo20b2o11b2o$7b2o31b2o65b2o32b2o$6bo2bo31bo$6bobo20bo8b3o$7bo
20bobo7bo$27bo2bo3b2o$28b2o4b2o$24bo85b2o$23bobo65b2o17b2o$23b2o66b2o$
29b2o$29b2o$90b2o$91bo$88b3o12b2o$88bo14bo16b2o$104b3o14bo$106bo11b3o
20b2o$118bo22bo$142b3o$144bo!
This might allow for some minor cost reductions in various self-constructing circuitry. I'm not sure, but I don't _think_ there's anywhere in the current RCT optimization project that could use this, since that design seems to have settled on mostly p8 G-to-Hs rather than pure stable stuff.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Anivec » August 30th, 2023, 7:09 am

dvgrn wrote:
August 29th, 2023, 2:06 pm
That seems new! Repeat time is 461 ticks, which means it would have set a new recovery-time record for stable reflectors (never mind G-to-Hs) up until September 2012.
You can overclock it too because the glider lane has enough clearance

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by nokangaroo » August 31st, 2023, 9:30 am

p37 bouncer with speed tunnel sparker

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x = 104, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
36.A$36.3A14.2A$39.A13.A$38.2A4.B5.BA.A$38.8B4.B2A$40.7B.3B$39.6B3ABA
B$38.6BA3BABA51.BA$38.7B4ABAB49.2AB$28.2A10.12B48.2B2A$29.A7.3B2.A8B
48.4B$29.A.AB3.B2AB4ABA2B2.B2A45.4B$30.2AB2.2BAB4AB2AB3.BA.A43.4B$32.
8BA2.3B7.A42.4B$31.12B10.2A40.4B$31.BAB4A7B49.4B$32.ABA3BA6B48.A3B$
30.3BAB3A6B48.A3B$30.5B.7B48.B3A$29.3BAB3.8B45.4B$19.2A8.3BAB4.B4.2A
44.4B$8.A11.A7.3BA3B8.A44.4B$8.3A9.A.AB4.4B2A2B8.3A40.4B$11.A9.2AB4.
4B2A2B10.A39.4B$10.2A4.B6.3B.9B49.4B$10.8B5.4B2A8B47.4B$12.7B.2B.3BA
2BA7B46.ABAB$11.7B2A7BA2B2A5B15.2A.2A25.B2AB$10.7BA2BA2B.3BA7B.B2A14.
A.A25.3BA$10.7BA2BA3B2.2BA6B.BA.A8.2A.A5.A.2A3.2A14.4B$2A10.4BA2B2A3B
3.5BAB5.A7.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A2.A14.4B$.A7.3B2.2BABA4B7.ABAB5.2A5.A2.B2.BA
.AB2.B2.A.A13.4B$.A.AB3.8B3AB2.B2A6.2A2B11.7AB.B7A.2A5.2A4.4B$2.2AB2.
B3A8B3.BA.A6.4B14.3B.B.3B6.A5.2A2B.4B$4.4BABA2B2.3B7.A7.4B11.3AB.3B.B
3A4.A.AB3.7B$3.3B2A2BA4B10.2A7.4B9.A.BA3BA3BAB.A4.2AB.4BC3B$3.3BA2BA
7B18.4B8.2A3.BABAB3.2A6.2B2A2BCBC$4.2BA2BA7B19.4B12.BABAB11.BABA2B2CB
$4.3B2A7B21.4B11.2BA2B.B10.BA7B$4.3B.7B23.2BAB11.B.B.5B3.2B2.10B$2.2A
B4.8B22.2B2A7.15B3C5B3.4B$.A.AB5.B4.2A23.2A2B5.14BC3B2C2B6.4B$.A13.A
25.4B4.14BCBC2B2CB7.4B$2A14.3A11.A11.4B3.13BC5BC2B8.4B$12.2A4.A9.3A
12.4B3.13BC2B2C3B2A7.3BA$13.A13.A16.4B2.3B2A3B2.3BC2B.B2.BA.A7.ABAB$
13.A.AB5.B4.2A16.8BABA3B2.B11.A8.2A2B$14.2AB4.8B17.9BA3B14.2A8.4B$16.
3B.7B20.6BABA3B25.4B$16.3B2A7B21.4B2A2B.B2A24.4B$16.2A11B19.9B.BA.A
24.4B$15.BA4B2A6B18.8B6.A25.4B$15.2BA3B2A4B10.2A7.4B.2B2AB5.2A25.4B$
16.B2AB5A2.3B7.A7.4B4.2A34.2BAB$14.2AB2.BAB2A4B2AB3.BA.A6.2A2B42.2B2A
$13.A.AB3.B2A4B2ABAB2.B2A6.2B2A44.2A2B$13.A7.3B2.5AB2AB7.2BAB5.2A39.
4B$12.2A10.4B2A3BA2B3.2B.4B5.A41.4B$22.6B2A4BAB2.9B.BA.A42.4B$22.11B
2A.B3A7B.B2A44.4B$23.7B2A17B47.4B$24.7B.2B.2B2A10B48.4B$22.8B5.3BA10B
49.3BA$22.2A4.B6.3B.BA4B2AB51.3BA$23.A9.2AB4.2ABAB2AB10.A41.3AB$20.3A
9.A.AB4.2B2A3BA8.3A$20.A11.A7.BA3B2A8.A$31.2A8.BA3B4.B4.2A$41.BA3B3.
8B$42.BA2BA.7B$42.2BA4B3A4B$44.BA5BA5B$43.3BA3B2A5B$43.12B10.2A$44.9B
2.2BA7.A$42.2AB2.3BA6BAB3.BA.A$41.A.AB3.BA6BA3B2.B2A$41.A7.A2B2.9B$
40.2A10.12B$50.5B2A3BA3B$50.5BA5BAB$51.4B3A4BA$52.7B.3B$50.8B4.2BA$
50.2A4.B5.2A.A$51.A13.A$48.3A14.2A$48.A!

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x = 112, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
48.A$48.3A14.2A$51.A13.A$50.2A4.B5.2A.A$50.8B4.2BA$52.7B.3B$51.4B3A4B
A$50.5BA5BAB$50.5B2A3BA3B$40.2A10.12B45.ABA$41.A7.A2B2.9B45.B2AB$41.A
.AB3.BA6BA3B2.B2A42.3BA$42.2AB2.3BA6BAB3.BA.A40.4B$44.9B2.2BA7.A39.4B
$43.12B10.2A37.4B$43.3BA3B2A5B46.4B$44.BA5BA5B45.4B$42.2BA4B3A4B45.4B
$42.BA2BA.7B45.A3B$41.BA3B3.8B42.BABA$31.2A8.BA3B4.B4.2A41.2B2A$20.A
11.A7.BA3B2A8.A41.4B$20.3A9.A.AB4.2B2A3BA8.3A37.4B$23.A9.2AB4.2ABAB2A
B10.A36.4B$22.2A4.B6.3B.BA4B2AB46.4B$22.8B5.3BA10B44.4B$24.7B.2B.2B2A
10B43.4B$23.7B2A17B42.BA2B$22.11B2A.B3A7B.B2A39.2A2B$22.6B2A4BAB2.9B.
BA.A37.2B2A$12.2A10.4B2A3BA2B3.2B.4B5.A36.4B$13.A7.3B2.5AB2AB7.2BAB5.
2A34.4B$13.A.AB3.B2A4B2ABAB2.B2A6.2B2A39.4B$14.2AB2.BAB2A4B2AB3.BA.A
6.2A2B37.4B$16.B2AB5A2.3B7.A7.4B4.2A29.4B$15.2BA3B2A4B10.2A7.4B.2B2AB
5.2A20.4B$15.BA4B2A6B18.8B6.A7.2A5.2A4.C3B$16.2A11B19.9B.BA.A8.A5.2A
2B.C3B$16.3B2A7B21.4B2A2B.B2A9.A.AB3.4B3C$16.3B.7B20.6BABA3B12.2AB.8B
$14.2AB4.8B17.9BA3B14.2B2A5B$13.A.AB5.B4.2A16.8BABA3B2.B11.BABA5B$13.
A13.A16.4B2.3B2A3B2.3BC2B.B6.BA7B$12.2A4.A9.3A12.4B3.13BC2B2C5B3.8B$
2A14.3A11.A11.4B3.13BC5BC5BDB.B3.4B$.A13.A25.4B4.14BCBC2B2C4BDB6.4B$.
A.AB5.B4.2A23.2A2B5.14BC3B2C6B8.4B$2.2AB4.8B22.2B2A7.15B3C5B11.3B$4.
3B.7B23.2BAB11.B.B.5B3.2B2.4B12.2B$4.3B2A7B21.4B11.2BA2B.B10.4B13.B$
4.2BA2BA7B19.4B12.BABAB12.2B2AB$3.3BA2BA7B18.4B8.2A3.BABAB3.2A6.A.A2B
AB$3.3B2A2BA4B10.2A7.4B9.A.BA3BA3BAB.A4.3A.A.2AB$4.4BABA2B2.3B7.A7.4B
11.3AB.3B.B3A4.A4.A2.4B$2.2AB2.B3A8B3.BA.A6.4B14.3B.B.3B7.3A.A4.2A$.A
.AB3.8B3AB2.B2A6.2A2B11.7AB.B7A5.2A5.A$.A7.3B2.2BABA4B7.ABAB5.2A5.A2.
B2.BA.AB2.B2.A13.3A$2A10.4BA2B2A3B3.5BAB5.A7.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A16.A$10.7B
A2BA3B2.2BA6B.BA.A8.2A.A5.A.2A$10.7BA2BA2B.3BA7B.B2A14.A.A$11.7B2A7BA
2B2A5B15.2A.2A$12.7B.2B.3BA2BA7B$10.8B5.4B2A8B$10.2A4.B6.3B.9B$11.A9.
2AB4.4B2A2B10.A$8.3A9.A.AB4.4B2A2B8.3A$8.A11.A7.3BA3B8.A$19.2A8.3BAB
4.B4.2A$29.3BAB3.8B$30.5B.7B$30.3BAB3A6B$32.ABA3BA6B$31.BAB4A7B$31.
12B10.2A$32.8BA2.3B7.A$30.2AB2.2BAB4AB2AB3.BA.A$29.A.AB3.B2AB4ABA2B2.
B2A$29.A7.3B2.A8B$28.2A10.12B$38.7B4ABAB$38.6BA3BABA$39.6B3ABAB$40.7B
.3B$38.8B4.B2A$38.2A4.B5.BA.A$39.A13.A$36.3A14.2A$36.A!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by nokangaroo » August 31st, 2023, 9:30 am

Herschel-to-B conduit based on the beehive-to-block reaction

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x = 80, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
70.2A$69.B2AB$11.2A3.2A52.2A$11.A.A.A2.A3.2A44.B2A$13.A.2A.A4.A44.4A$
12.AB.2B.A.3A43.BA4B$12.A3B3A.A45.2A4B$13.4BA2B46.2BAB$11.A2B.B.3B47.
3B$11.AB3.2B48.2B$12.A2.B2AB.2B43.B2AB.2B$9.3A4.2A3B2A43.2A3B2A$9.A7.
B.2B2A2B42.B.2B2A2B$19.6B44.6B$18.8B42.8B$18.8B42.8B$17.9B41.9B$16.
11B39.11B$14.13B37.13B$13.14B36.14B$13.7BC6B36.7BC6B$13.7BCBC4B.B34.
7BCBC4B.B$13.7B3C5B2A33.7B3C5B2A$13.9BC3B.B2A33.9BC3B.B2A$14.11B3.B
35.11B3.B$13.8B42.8B$13.8B2.2B39.7B$13.8B.4B39.5B$12.14B39.5B$12.3BD
2B2D3B2AB39.D2B2D2B$12.4B3D4B2A2B38.B3D4B2.2A.A$13.4BD9B36.4BD7BA.2A$
13.13B37.11B$14.13B36.5B2A4B$13.14B36.5B2A3B$13.14B36.10B$6.A7.13B36.
9B$6.3A3.14B37.9B$9.A2.9B43.8B$8.A2.10B42.8B$3.2A3.2A11B43.6B$3.A2.2A
2.11B43.6B$4.2A2.2A10B44.6B$6.A.A.B.8B44.7B$6.A2.A3.6B46.6B$7.2A5.4B
46.6B$13.4B48.5B$12.4B49.6B$11.4B50.6B$10.4B51.6B$9.4B52.2B3DB$8.4B
53.2BD3B$7.4B54.B3D2B$6.4B55.5B$5.4B58.B$4.4B58.3B$3.4B58.B2CB$2.4B
60.2C$.4B$4B!
Shown with 2 possible follow-ups and 2 different oscillators. Its name would be HRx74B, its repeat time is 101 ticks (independent of the oscillator phase, therefore behaves like a stable conduit).

I also found 2 p10 oscillators that will work, but not in every phase; they will make the conduit periodic:

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x = 48, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
34bo$34b3o$5b2o3b2o25bo5bo$4bo2bobo2bo23b2o4bobo$42bobo$39b2obob2o$39b
o2bobo2bo$2o3b2o3b2o3b2o23b2o4b2o$2o2b2o5b2o2b2o24bo$4b3o3b3o29bo$42bo
$42bo$31b2o$31bo2b2o$4b3o3b3o19b2ob2o3b3o$2o2b2o5b2o2b2o18b2o3b3o2b2o$
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o18b2o4bo3b2o$32b2ob2o$31bo2b2o$31b2o$4bo2bobo2bo2bo23bo
2bo2bo$5b2o3b2o2bobo23b2o2bobo$14bobo27bobo$15bo29bo!
Here is a p11704 oscillator:

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x = 70, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
47b2o$47b2o5$38bo8b2o$38b3o4b2obo7bo$41bo3b2ob2o4bo2bo$40b2o3bob2ob2o
2bo2bo$47b5o3bo$43b2o2b3o2bo$42b2o7b2o$42bo2b3o2b2o$39bo3b5o$37bo2bo2b
2ob2obo3b2o$37bo2bo4b2ob2o3bo$38bo7bob2o4b3o$46b2o8bo5$22b2o22b2o$22b
2o6b2o14b2o3b2o$31bo19b2o$30bo$30b2o3$11b2o$2o3b2o4b2o$2o2b3o$5bob2o
24b2o$6bo3bo22b2o$6bo4bo46b2o$7bo3bo46b2o$10bo6$55b2obo$55bob2o2$48b2o
$48b2o$20b2o$20b2o2$11b2obo$11bob2o6$59bo$10b2o5bo40bo3bo$10b2o5b3o38b
o4bo$17bobo15b2o22bo3bo$19bo15b2o24b2obo$63b3o2b2o$57b2o4b2o3b2o$57b2o
3$38b2o$39bo$17b2o19bo$17b2o3b2o14b2o6b2o$21bo2bo21b2o2$20bo$20bo2bo$
18b2ob2o$18b3o$19bo3$18b2o$18b2o!
And a p152152:

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x = 94, y = 83, rule = B3/S23
71b2o$71b2o3$73bo$74bo$62bo11bo$62b3o15bo$65bo5bo6bo2bo$64b2o3b3o2b2o
2bo2bo$74b2o3bo$68bo$69b2ob2o$74bo$63bo3b2o$34b2o25bo2bo2b2o2b3o3b2o$
17bo16bo26bo2bo6bo5bo$17b3o7b2o3bobo27bo15b3o$20bo6bobo2b2o34bo11bo$
19b2o7bo39bo$69bo$23b2o$23b2o$23b2o21b2o22b2o$25b2o19b2o6b2o14b2o3b2o$
24b3o28bo19b2o$22bo31bo$22bo2b2o27b2o$23bob2o$24bo4bo$29bo5b2o$11bo7b
2o14b2o$2o7b2o5bo3bo$2o8b2o4b4o10bo26b2o$28b2ob2o24b2o$16b4o8b2ob5o46b
2o$15bo3bo9b3ob3o46b2o$15b2o4$8b3o7bo$7bo2bo7b2o$7b3o7bobo59b2obo$79bo
b2o2$72b2o$72b2o$44b2o$7bo7b2o27b2o$2b2o2bobo6bo$bobo3b2o7b3o16b2obo$b
o16bo16bob2o$2o6$34b2o5bo40b2o3b2o$34b2o5b3o38b2o2b3o$41bobo15b2o26bob
2o$43bo15b2o27bo3bo$88bo4bo$81b2o6bo3bo$81b2o9bo3$62b2o$63bo$41b2o19bo
$41b2o3b2o14b2o6b2o$46b2o22b2o3$46bo$45b3o$43b2ob2o$42bo2bo$45bo2$41bo
2bo$42b2o!
And a p9281272:

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x = 143, y = 149, rule = B3/S23
71b2o$70bo2bo3$69bo2b2o$70bo3bo$62bo12bo$62b3o10bo4bo$65bo5bo6bo2bo$
64b2o5b4o3bo2bo$72bo6bo4$63bo6bo$34b2o25bo2bo3b4o5b2o$17bo16bo26bo2bo
6bo5bo$17b3o7b2o3bobo27bo4bo10b3o$20bo6bobo2b2o33bo12bo$19b2o7bo39bo3b
o$69b2o2bo2$19b2o$19b3o24b2o21bo2bo$18b4o24b2o6b2o14b2o3b2o$17b2o2bo6b
o26bo19b2o$16b2o8bobo25bo$25b2obo25b2o3$35b2o$19b2o14b2o$2o2bo2bo8bo3b
o$2o2bobo9b4o37b2o$4b3o50b2o$16b4o4bo9b2o46b2o$15bo3bo4b2o8b2o46b2o$6b
o4bo3b2o6bobo$5bo$6b2o2bo2bo$10bobo$9b2obobo$10bo2bo$10bob2o65b2obo$
10b3o66bob2o$12bo$10b3o59b2o$72b2o$44b2o$7bo7b2o27b2o44bo$2b2o2bobo6bo
73bobo$bobo3b2o7b3o16b2obo48b3obo$bo16bo16bob2o47bo4bob2o$2o84bobobobo
bo$87b2obobo$91bobo$92bo2$87bo$34b2o5bo40b2o2b3o$34b2o5b3o38b2o2bo2b3o
$41bobo15b2o28b2obo3bo$43bo15b2o34b2o3bo$94b3o2b2o5b2o$81b2o12b2o2b2o
5b2o$81b2o13b2obo$91b2o4b2o$85bo4bob3o3bo$62b2o20bobo3bobo2bo$63bo20b
2o5b2o2bo$41b2o19bo30b2o$41b2o3b2o14b2o6b2o19b2o$46b2o22b2o3$46bo$45b
3o$43b2ob2o$42bo2bo$45bo2$41bo2bo$42b2o2$57b2o22bo$57b2o20b2o25bo$80b
2o23b2o$105bobo$131b2o$131b2o$122b2o$56b3o63bobo$57b3o63bo7b2o5b2o$60b
2o70b2o3bo2bo$59b2o71bo4b2obo$55b5o70b2o8b2o$56b3o3b2o59b2o5b2o5b2o3bo
$46b2o9bo3bo2bo55bobo2bo5bo4bo2b3o$46bo2bo11bo2bo55bob4o4bo4bob2o$47b
2obo4bo4b4obo55bo2bo11bo2bo$44b3o2bo4bo5bo2bobo55bo2bo3bo9b2o$43bo3b2o
5b2o5b2o59b2o3b3o$44b2o8b2o70b5o$45bob2o4bo71b2o$45bo2bo3b2o70b2o$46b
2o5b2o7bo63b3o$61bobo63b3o$62b2o$53b2o$53b2o$78bobo$79b2o23b2o$79bo25b
2o20b2o$104bo22b2o13$93b2o$91b2o$90bo2b2o5b2o$90bo2bobo3bobo$87bo3b3ob
o4bo$87b2o4b2o$86bob2o$78b2o5b2o2b2o$78b2o5b2o2b3o$85bo3b2o$89bo3bob2o
$94b3o2bo2b2o$97b3o2b2o$98bo2$93bo$92bobo$93bobob2o$91bobobobobo$91b2o
bo4bo$94bob3o$94bobo$95bo!
Not terribly useful, but this is a GAME after all, and omniperiodic.

Edit: How about this one?

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x = 112, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
50b2obo6bo$50bob2o6b3o$63bo$51b5o6b2o10bo$50bo4bo16b3o$49bo2bo18bo$49b
ob2o18b2o$46b2obo5bo$47bobo4bobo18b2o$46bo2b2o2bo2bo17bo2bo$46b2o6b2o
7bo10b2obo$64bo12b2o$63b3o8b2o3bo$73bo2b3o$49bo22bob2o$49b3o4b2o4b2o9b
o2bo$52bo8b3o3bo7b2o$51bobo7b2o3bobo$51b2o6b5o3bo$62b3o$51b2o8bobo16bo
$51bo10bo15b3o$52bo24bo$51b2o4b2o18b2o4b2o$58bo24bo$55b3o15bo10bo$55bo
16bobo8b2o$71b3o$68bo3b5o6b2o$18bo48bobo3b2o7bobo$16b3o40b2o7bo3b3o8bo
$3b2o10bo43bo2bo9b2o4b2o4b3o$4bo10b2o43b2obo22bo$3bo53b3o2bo$3b4o49bo
3b2o8b3o$6bo50b2o12bo$b3o54bob2o10bo7b2o6b2o$o2bo9b2o43bo2bo17bo2bo2b
2o2bo$2o9b2obo44b2o18bobo4bobo$11b2o67bo5bob2o$11b2obo68b2obo16bo$13b
2o27b2o22b2o15bo2bo15bobo$22b2o18b2o6b2o14b2o3b2o7bo4bo16bob3o$22b2o
27bo19b2o7b5o14b2obo4bo$50bo48bobobobobo$50b2o27bob2o18bobob2o$79b2obo
17bobo$24b2o75bo$24b2o5b2o$31b2o37bo3bo$11b2o55bo2bobobo34b2o$11bobo9b
o29b2o16bobobo34b2o$12bo2b2o2bo4b2o27b2o14bo4bo$17b4o3bobo3b2o36b2o8b
2o24bo$18b3o4b2o3b2o37bobo6b2o22b3o3bo$11b2o9bo4bo41bobo15b2o8bo3b3o5b
o$11b2o10bo63b2o7b2ob3ob2o3b2o$95b2o5bobo$24b2o67b3o$24b3o67bo$24b2o
65b2o2bo$25bo49b2obo13bob2o7b2o$26bo48bob2o14bo9bobo$26bo78bo$68b2o13b
2o20b2o$68b2o14bo$40b2o42bobo9bo$40b2o43b2o7b2obo$94bo2b2o$31b2obo60bo
$31bob2o59b3o$85bobo5b2o$80b2o3b2ob3ob2o7b2o$80bo5b3o3bo8b2o$81bo3b3o$
85bo2$30b2o46b2o$30b2o46b2o$55b2o$55b2o$88bo$77b2o8bobo$77b2o4b2obobo$
82bobobobobo$82bo4bob2o$58b2o23b3obo$59bo25bobo$37b2o11bo7bo27bo$37b2o
3b2o4b3o7b2o6b2o$42b2o3bo18b2o$48bo$45bo2bo$35b2o8bo$36bo7bo6b2o$36bob
o5b2o6bo$37b2o4bo6bo$42bo2bo4b2o$45bo6bo$41bo2bo5b2obo$42b2o5bobo2bo$
50bo2b2o2$38b2o$37bobo5b2o$37bo7bo$36b2o8b3o$48bo!
Its period should be 532*23*39*61*83 = 2416083852, since there are no common factors, and it does run that long without breaking.
Last edited by nokangaroo on September 1st, 2023, 10:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

TYCF
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by TYCF » August 31st, 2023, 10:09 am

Are any of these a sawtooth ?

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x = 353, y = 127, rule = B3/S23 
313b2o$188b4o119bo4bo$187b6o117bo$186b2ob4o117bo5bo$187b2o121b6o2$282b 3o$157b5o119b5o$157bo4bo117b2ob3o24b2o$157bo123b2o26bobo$158bo4bo147b o$160bo124b2o23bo$161b2o2bo118b3o$159bo2bo3bo118b2o4b2o$157bo7bo$156b o5bo2bo18b2o94b2o3bo21b6o$156bo3b2o21b2ob4o9bobo77b2ob4obo19bo5bo$156b 4o2b2o20b6o9b2o79b7o20bo$151b2o32b4o11bo73bo2bo3b2o8bo8b2o6bo4bo$150b 4o12b3o6b4o94bo16b2o6bo4bo6b2o$149b2ob2o12bo7b6o93bo3bo12bobo4bo$150b 2o15bo5b2ob4o93b4o20bo5bo$174b2o121b6o$155bo123bo$136bo2bo14bobo121bo $135bo18bo104b2o71bo$135bo3bo11bo4bo101b2ob2o69bobo$135b4o12bo8bo98b4o 3bo14bo2bo47b2o$141b3o2b2o8bob3o99b2o3bobo2b2o8bobob2o$141b3o2b2o8b2o 2bo103bo3b2o2bo6bo4bo$141b3o2b2o8b2o102b2o3bobo2b2o8b2o2b2o$135b4o12b o8b2o97b4o3bo17bobo$135bo3bo11bo8b3obo93b2ob2o25b2o$135bo25b2ob2o93b2o 25bobobo$136bo2bo10bo9bo4b2o50bobo63b2o2bo2bo$148bo3bo6b2o3b2o51b2o64b o2bo3bo$147bo12b5o53bo52b2o10bo5bo$147bo4bo8b3o106b2ob3o8bo3bo$147b5o 10bo108b5o9b3o$157b2o113b3o5bo2bo$156b4o119bo$155b2ob2o119bo3bo$156b2o 121b4o$350bo$350bobo$350b2o7$235bobo$235b2o$2b3o231bo$b5o$2ob3o$b2o2$ 4bo$2bo42bo$bo4bo34b2obo2b3o212b2o34b2o34b2o$bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b o3bo3b2ob2ob3o212b2o34b2o34b2o$b4o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$9bo3bo3b o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b2ob2ob3o212b2o34b2o34b2o$41b2obo2b3o212b2o34b2o34b2o $45bo$4b4o$3b6o$2b2ob4o$3b2o2$236bo$235b2o$235bobo7$350b2o$350bobo$350b o$156b2o121b4o$155b2ob2o119bo3bo$156b4o119bo$157b2o113b3o5bo2bo$147b5o 10bo108b5o9b3o$147bo4bo8b3o106b2ob3o8bo3bo$147bo12b5o53bo52b2o10bo5bo $148bo3bo6b2o3b2o51b2o64bo2bo3bo$136bo2bo10bo9bo4b2o50bobo63b2o2bo2bo $135bo25b2ob2o93b2o25bobobo$135bo3bo11bo8b3obo93b2ob2o25b2o$135b4o12b o8b2o97b4o3bo17bobo$141b3o2b2o8b2o102b2o3bobo2b2o8b2o2b2o$141b3o2b2o8b 2o2bo103bo3b2o2bo6bo4bo$141b3o2b2o8bob3o99b2o3bobo2b2o8bobob2o$135b4o 12bo8bo98b4o3bo14bo2bo47b2o$135bo3bo11bo4bo101b2ob2o69bobo$135bo18bo104b 2o71bo$136bo2bo14bobo121bo$155bo123bo$174b2o121b6o$150b2o15bo5b2ob4o93b 4o20bo5bo$149b2ob2o12bo7b6o93bo3bo12bobo4bo$150b4o12b3o6b4o94bo16b2o6b o4bo6b2o$151b2o32b4o11bo73bo2bo3b2o8bo8b2o6bo4bo$156b4o2b2o20b6o9b2o79b 7o20bo$156bo3b2o21b2ob4o9bobo77b2ob4obo19bo5bo$156bo5bo2bo18b2o94b2o3b o21b6o$157bo7bo$159bo2bo3bo118b2o4b2o$161b2o2bo118b3o$160bo124b2o23bo $158bo4bo147bo$157bo123b2o26bobo$157bo4bo117b2ob3o24b2o$157b5o119b5o$ 282b3o2$187b2o121b6o$186b2ob4o117bo5bo$187b6o117bo$188b4o119bo4bo$313b 2o!

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x = 330, y = 127, rule = B3/S23
189b2o$187bo4bo$186bo$186bo5bo$186b6o2$158b3o$157b5o$156b2ob3o$157b2o
2$161b2o$160b3o$161b2o4b2o4bo22bo$171bo4bo19bobo$156b2o3bo8bo5bo6b6o7b
2o$155b2ob4obo7bo4bo6bo5bo$156b7o10bo9bo$150bo2bo3b2o17b2o6bo4bo$149b
o24bo4bo6b2o$149bo3bo19bo$149b4o11bo8bo5bo$163b2o8b6o$163bobo2$135b2o
15b2o$134b2ob2o12b2o2bo$135b4o3bo8bo4bo$136b2o3bobo2b2o8bo$140bo3b2o2b
o5b2o$136b2o3bobo2b2o5b2o$135b4o3bo8b4obo57bo$134b2ob2o12b2obo2bo56bo
bo$135b2o14bo3b3o56b2o3$147b2o$146b2ob3o$147b5o$148b3o5bo2bo$155bo$155b
o3bo$155b4o7$232bo$232bobo$232b2o2$3bo$bo3bo$o$o4bo$5o4$b2o184b2obo2b
2o61b2o34b2o34b2o$2ob3obo178bobob5o61b2o34b2o34b2o$b7o2b3ob3ob3ob3ob3o
b3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3o
b3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3ob3obo$2b5o179bobob5o61b2o
34b2o34b2o$187b2obo2b2o61b2o34b2o34b2o$5b2o$3bo4bo$2bo$2bo5bo$2b6o5$232b
2o$232bobo$232bo7$155b4o$155bo3bo$155bo$148b3o5bo2bo$147b5o$146b2ob3o
$147b2o3$135b2o14bo3b3o56b2o$134b2ob2o12b2obo2bo56bobo$135b4o3bo8b4ob
o57bo$136b2o3bobo2b2o5b2o$140bo3b2o2bo5b2o$136b2o3bobo2b2o8bo$135b4o3b
o8bo4bo$134b2ob2o12b2o2bo$135b2o15b2o2$163bobo$163b2o8b6o$149b4o11bo8b
o5bo$149bo3bo19bo$149bo24bo4bo6b2o$150bo2bo3b2o17b2o6bo4bo$156b7o10bo
9bo$155b2ob4obo7bo4bo6bo5bo$156b2o3bo8bo5bo6b6o7b2o$171bo4bo19bobo$161b
2o4b2o4bo22bo$160b3o$161b2o2$157b2o$156b2ob3o$157b5o$158b3o2$186b6o$186b
o5bo$186bo$187bo4bo$189b2o!

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x = 446, y = 123, rule = B3/S23
268b2o121b6o$267b2ob4o117bo5bo$268b6o117bo$241bo27b4o119bo4bo$239bo3b
o150b2o$238bo123b2o$238bo4bo117b2ob3o$238b5o119b5o$276bo86b2ob2o$242b
obo29b2o91bo$242bo2bo29b2o88b2ob2o$242bobo2b2o117bob2o21b2o$243b2o2b2o
17b4o92b4o3bo4b3o12bo4bo$237b5ob2o6b2o12b6o90b4ob3o7bo11bo$237bo13bob
o10b2ob4o89b2ob2o2b2o5bo13bo5bo$237bo6bo6bo13b2o94b2o4bo20b6o$238bo3b
2o123bo$231b2o121b4o50bo$230b2ob2o20b2o97bo3bo19b6o23bo$231b4o19b2ob4o
93bo23bo5bo22b3o$232b2o21b6o94bo2bo19bo$256b4o119bo4bo$242b2o97b2o23b
2o13b2o$216b4o22bobo95b4o21b2o$216bo3bo21bo96b2ob2o23bo$216bo7bo115b2o
5b2ob3o$217bo2bo2b7o64bo51bo5b2o$222b2ob3o2bo61b2o51b2o7bo$217bo2bo2b
7o63b2o51bo5b2o$216bo7bo115b2o5b2ob3o4bo$216bo3bo11b3o22bobo79b2ob2o13b
o24bo$216b4o37bo2bo79b4o13bo22b5o$253b2obo3bo80b2o35b3o3bo$255bob3o93b
3o22b6o$228b5o119b5o25bo$228bo4bo117b2ob3o69bo$228bo123b2o71bo$229bo3b
o191b3o$231bo5b2o121b4o$236b2ob2o119bo3bo$237b4o119bo$238b2o121bo2bo3$
312bo$310b2o$311b2o7$b2o441bo$2ob3o437bo$b5o437b3o$2b3o3$b5o326b2o34b
2o34b2o34b2o$bo4bo325b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o$bo4bo$2bo2bo326b2o34b2o34b2o34b
2o$332b2o34b2o34b2o34b2o3$3b2o$2b2ob4o434b3o$3b6o434bo$4b4o436bo7$311b
2o$310b2o$312bo3$238b2o121bo2bo$237b4o119bo$236b2ob2o119bo3bo$231bo5b
2o121b4o$229bo3bo191b3o$228bo123b2o71bo$228bo4bo117b2ob3o69bo$228b5o119b
5o25bo$255bob3o93b3o22b6o$253b2obo3bo80b2o35b3o3bo$216b4o37bo2bo79b4o
13bo22b5o$216bo3bo11b3o22bobo79b2ob2o13bo24bo$216bo7bo115b2o5b2ob3o4b
o$217bo2bo2b7o63b2o51bo5b2o$222b2ob3o2bo61b2o51b2o7bo$217bo2bo2b7o64b
o51bo5b2o$216bo7bo115b2o5b2ob3o$216bo3bo21bo96b2ob2o23bo$216b4o22bobo
95b4o21b2o$242b2o97b2o23b2o13b2o$256b4o119bo4bo$232b2o21b6o94bo2bo19b
o$231b4o19b2ob4o93bo23bo5bo22b3o$230b2ob2o20b2o97bo3bo19b6o23bo$231b2o
121b4o50bo$238bo3b2o123bo$237bo6bo6bo13b2o94b2o4bo20b6o$237bo13bobo10b
2ob4o89b2ob2o2b2o5bo13bo5bo$237b5ob2o6b2o12b6o90b4ob3o7bo11bo$243b2o2b
2o17b4o92b4o3bo4b3o12bo4bo$242bobo2b2o117bob2o21b2o$242bo2bo29b2o88b2o
b2o$242bobo29b2o91bo$276bo86b2ob2o$238b5o119b5o$238bo4bo117b2ob3o$238b
o123b2o$239bo3bo150b2o$241bo27b4o119bo4bo$268b6o117bo$267b2ob4o117bo5b
o$268b2o121b6o!

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obobo$2ob2o$obobo!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B35/S234i8
2bo$bobo$2ob2o$5o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » August 31st, 2023, 10:23 am

TYCF wrote:
August 31st, 2023, 10:09 am
Are any of these a sawtooth ?
Nope, all of those are high-period puffers, not sawtooth patterns.

The key to a sawtooth is that the population has to keep returning to the same minimum value, but then also keep reaching new maximum values. Your three patterns don't do either of those. You can tell from the repetitive output that these are all linear-growth patterns.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by TYCF » August 31st, 2023, 10:25 am

dvgrn wrote:
August 31st, 2023, 10:23 am
TYCF wrote:
August 31st, 2023, 10:09 am
Are any of these a sawtooth ?
Nope, all of those are high-period puffers, not sawtooth patterns.

The key to a sawtooth is that the population has to keep returning to the same minimum value, but then also keep reaching new maximum values. Your three patterns don't do either of those. You can tell from the repetitive output that these are all linear-growth patterns.
Thank you!

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obobo$2ob2o$obobo!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B35/S234i8
2bo$bobo$2ob2o$5o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Anivec » August 31st, 2023, 2:32 pm

I might of rediscovered a component:

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x = 33, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
5$19bo$18bobo2b2o$18bobo3bo$16b2obob3o$17bo3bo$15bo3bo$15b6o$21bo$15b
2ob3o$16bobo5bo$16bo7bobo$15b2o7b2o4$13b3o4b3o$15bo4bo$14bo6bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by TYCF » September 1st, 2023, 7:12 am

Eater 2 variants

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x = 49, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bo16bo14bo$14bo16bo14bo$14b3o14b3o12b3o2$2obo2bo2bob2o7b2obo2bob2o8b
o2bob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o8b4ob2o2$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o10b2ob2o$bobo5bo
bo9bobo2bobo11b2obo$bobo2bo2bobo9bobo2bobo14bo$2obobobobob2o7b2ob4ob2o
13b2o$bobo2bo2bobo$bobo5bobo8b2ob4ob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2obo2bob2o2$2ob7ob2o
$2obo2bo2bob2o!

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob4o
b4ob2o2$2ob4ob4ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3bo2b
ob2o2$11b3o$11bo$12bo!

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bo$8b3o2$o2bob2o$4ob2o2$2b2ob2o$3bobo$3bobo$4bo!

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob3o
3b3ob2o2$2ob3o3b3ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3b
o2bob2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » September 1st, 2023, 9:20 am

TYCF wrote:
September 1st, 2023, 7:12 am
Eater 2 variants

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x = 49, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bo16bo14bo$14bo16bo14bo$14b3o14b3o12b3o2$2obo2bo2bob2o7b2obo2bob2o8b
o2bob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o8b4ob2o2$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o10b2ob2o$bobo5bo
bo9bobo2bobo11b2obo$bobo2bo2bobo9bobo2bobo14bo$2obobobobob2o7b2ob4ob2o
13b2o$bobo2bo2bobo$bobo5bobo8b2ob4ob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2obo2bob2o2$2ob7ob2o
$2obo2bo2bob2o!

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob4o
b4ob2o2$2ob4ob4ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3bo2b
ob2o2$11b3o$11bo$12bo!

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bo$8b3o2$o2bob2o$4ob2o2$2b2ob2o$3bobo$3bobo$4bo!

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob3o
3b3ob2o2$2ob3o3b3ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3b
o2bob2o!
There are also some eater 2 variants where one or both of its sides sticks out:

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x = 78, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
21bo27bo27bo$19b2o26b2o26b2o$20b2o26b2o26b2o$17bo27bo27bo$15b2o26b2o
26b2o$16b2o26b2o26b2o$13bo27bo27bo$11b2o26b2o26b2o$12b2o26b2o26b2o$9bo
27bo27bo$7b2o26b2o26b2o$8b2o26b2o26b2o2$b2o27bo24b2ob2o$bobob2o22bobob
2o21bobo2b2o$3bob2o22bobob2o21bo2bob2o$2bo27bo26bobo$2bob2obo23b3obo
20b2o2b2obo$b2o2bob3o24b2o18bo2bo4b2o$o2b2o5bo20b2o21b2o2b3o$2o7b2o20b
o27bob3o$33bo23bo5bo$32b2o23b2o!
These two variants can also eat a beehive, but only a glider from a single position, instead of 4:

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x = 36, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
14bo20bo$12b2o19b2o$13b2o19b2o$6bo19bo$5bobo17bobo$5bobo17bobo$6bo19bo
2$3bob2o18b2o$b3ob2o18b2o$o8bo$b3ob5o13b3obo$3b2o17bo3b2o$6b2o15b2o$7b
o17b2obo$5bo19bob2o$5b2o!
The following eater 2 variant (and eater 1 variant) restores itself if the table-like end on the right catalyzes as a rock.

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x = 37, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
16bo19bo$9b2o2bo2bo12b2o2bo2bo$10bo3bo15bo3bo$4b2o4bo2bo16bo2bo$4bo2b
2o2b3o13b2o2b3o$2o3bob2o17bobo$o2bobo20bo$2b2obob4o16b4o$6bo3bo19bo$7b
o21bo$6b2o21b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hotcrystal0 » September 1st, 2023, 9:42 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
September 1st, 2023, 9:20 am
TYCF wrote:
September 1st, 2023, 7:12 am
Eater 2 variants

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x = 49, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bo16bo14bo$14bo16bo14bo$14b3o14b3o12b3o2$2obo2bo2bob2o7b2obo2bob2o8b
o2bob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o8b4ob2o2$2ob7ob2o7b2ob4ob2o10b2ob2o$bobo5bo
bo9bobo2bobo11b2obo$bobo2bo2bobo9bobo2bobo14bo$2obobobobob2o7b2ob4ob2o
13b2o$bobo2bo2bobo$bobo5bobo8b2ob4ob2o$2ob7ob2o7b2obo2bob2o2$2ob7ob2o
$2obo2bo2bob2o!

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob4o
b4ob2o2$2ob4ob4ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3bo2b
ob2o2$11b3o$11bo$12bo!

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bo$8b3o2$o2bob2o$4ob2o2$2b2ob2o$3bobo$3bobo$4bo!

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5b2obo2bo$5b2ob4o5bo$16bo$2o3b2ob2o6b3o$bo4bobo$bobo2bobo2bob2o$2ob3o
3b3ob2o2$2ob3o3b3ob2o$2obo2bobo2bobo$6bobo4bo$5b2ob2o3b2o2$3b4ob2o$3b
o2bob2o!
These two variants can also eat a beehive, but only a glider from a single position, instead of 4:

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x = 36, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
14bo20bo$12b2o19b2o$13b2o19b2o$6bo19bo$5bobo17bobo$5bobo17bobo$6bo19bo
2$3bob2o18b2o$b3ob2o18b2o$o8bo$b3ob5o13b3obo$3b2o17bo3b2o$6b2o15b2o$7b
o17b2obo$5bo19bob2o$5b2o!
What about this one?

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x = 37, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
16bo19bo$9b2o2bo2bo12b2o2bo2bo$10bo3bo15bo3bo$4b2o4bo2bo16bo2bo$4bo2b
2o2b3o13b2o2b3o$2o3bob2o17bobo$o2bobo20bo$2b2obob4o16b4o$6bo3bo19bo$7b
o21bo$6b2o21b2o!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by TYCF » September 1st, 2023, 10:03 am

Is this a slide gun?

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x = 136, y = 118, rule = B3/S23
52b2o$52b2o12b2obob2o$59bob2obo2bob2o2bo$59b2obob2obo4bobo$67b5obo$63b
2obo4bo6bo9bo37b2o$63b2obobo3bo5b3o5b3o37bo$67bobo3bo7bo3bo16bo21bobo$
68bo3b2o6b2o3b2o13b3o20bobo$99bo19b2o3bo$99b2o18b2o$130b2o$130bobo$60b
2o70bo$60b2o70bob2o$45b2o82b2obob2o$44bo2bo54b2o24bo2bo$43bob2o55b2o
25b2o$43bo$42b2o85b4o$57b2o71bo2bo$57bo70bo3b2o$58b3o67b2o$60bo10b2o$
70bobo11b2o6bo$70bo13b2o6b3o$43b3o23b2o24bo$31b2o12bo3bo44b2o$27b4o4b
2o7bo3bobo$27b3ob2o2b2o12bo7b2o$32bo22bob2o$47b2o5bo$27bo19b3o7bo$27b
3o17b3o3b2obo$30bo22b2o$29b2o10bo$40bobo$25bo14bobo4b2o$24bobo12b2ob2o
3b2o$24bo2bo6bo9bo$23b2obobo5b3o7bo$23bo2bo15bob2o$24b2o3bob2o4bo4b2o
2bo$26b3o4bo2b3o6b2o$24b2o2b2o3bo5bo$23bo2bo5bo5bo$24b2o13bo$35bo2bo6b
o2bob2obo2bo$35bo9b4ob2ob4o$36bo8bo2bob2obo2bo$33b3o$28b2o$29bo$26b3o$
26bo4$14b2o$14b2o5$18bo$15b6o$6b2o7b2o2b2o$6b2o$16bo$16bo2b2o$15bo3b2o
$16bo$16bobo$17bo2$19bo$2b3o13b2o$b2o2bo11b2o$17b2o$2bo13b3o$2bo2bo16b
o$5bo12bo$3bobo10bobo3b2o$2bo3bo15b3o2bo$2b2o2bo15bo2bobo$bo2b3o17b2o$
obo15b2o4b2o$b2o15b2o$4bo23b2o$bo2bo22b3o$b3o21bob3o$24b4ob2o16bo$24bo
2b3o16bobo$23bob2obo17bobo$24b3o20bo$24b3o$24bo2bo$24b3o$25bo5$36bo$
34b3o15bo$34b4o13b3o$35bobo12bo3bo4b2o$37bo13b2ob2o3b2o$50bobobo$36bo
13b4o$36b2o12bob2o$35b4o13bo$39bo12b2o$33b3o3b2o10b3o$34bo4b2o9bo2bo$
34bobo14b2o$34bobo$34b3o!

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x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obobo$2ob2o$obobo!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B35/S234i8
2bo$bobo$2ob2o$5o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » September 1st, 2023, 10:43 am

TYCF wrote:
September 1st, 2023, 10:03 am
Is this a slide gun?
A slide gun is when gliders or spaceships push an object out and release a glider or spaceship to the side. It does not contain a puffer in front.

You can find an example of a slide gun in my SSS breeder: viewtopic.php?&p=148994#p148994
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » September 1st, 2023, 1:04 pm

Is this very long ship reaction known?

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo$o2bo$4bo$b3obo$o3b2o4bo$4bo2bo2bo$4bo2bo2bo$5bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by TYCF » September 2nd, 2023, 3:42 pm

Glider destruction of xs43_wg88m952zg89a98gzdllllldzx1

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x = 9, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bo2bo$5bobo$3b2obo$2bo2bo$2bobo$3bo2$b5o$o5bo$7o2$7o$o5bo$b5o$3b
o2$5b3o$5bo$6bo!

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#C I am inactive currently.
x = 5, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obobo$2ob2o$obobo!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B35/S234i8
2bo$bobo$2ob2o$5o!

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