The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » April 19th, 2024, 10:06 pm

Thumb-emitting snark variant by Calcyman (unfortunately, low clearance):

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x = 32, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
12bo$13bo$11b3o3$28bo$26b3o$25bo$25b2o3$8b2o$7bo2bo3b2o$8b2obo2b2o$9b
obo$8bo2b2o$8bobo2bo8b2o$9bobobo8b2o$10bo2bobo2bo$13bob4o$12b2o13bo$3b
2o10b2o6b2obobo$3bo2bob2o6bo5bobobobo$2obob2obobo5bob2o2bobobobob2o$o
2bo4bobo3b2obob4ob2o2bo2bo$2b2ob4obobo2bobo5bo4b2o$4bo4bob4o2bo3bobo$
4bobo2bo7b2o2b2o$5b2o3bobo$11b2o!
wherever I go on the internet I bring with myself nothing but problems.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by affamatodidio » May 11th, 2024, 9:20 pm

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x = 18, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo$6bobo$4b3ob2o$3bo$4b3ob2o$6bob2o3$o$3o$3bo$2b2o7$8b2o$9b2o$
9bo4$9b2ob2o$10bobobo$9bo2bob3o$10b2o5bo$16b2o!
stable r-g

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by rayansh1234 » May 12th, 2024, 10:01 pm

H-to-X partial

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o11b2o$4bo2bo17b
2o$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo5$
2b2o$3bo$3o5b2o$o7b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: Moved the FNG-catching eater out one diagonal step to standard position -- it interfered with the input where it was before.

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » May 13th, 2024, 4:32 am

rayansh1234 wrote:
May 12th, 2024, 10:01 pm
H-to-X partial

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o11b2o$4bo2bo17b
2o$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo5$
2b2o$3bo$3o5b2o$o7b2o!
I almost got a glider. I just need a fishhook replacement that recovers more slowly.

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x = 28, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o11b2o$4bo2bo17b
2o$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo5$
2b2o$3bo$3o$o2$24b2o$16bobo5bo$16b2obo5b3o$19bo7bo$19b2o!
I am tentatively considering myself back.

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by rayansh1234 » May 13th, 2024, 10:53 pm

rayansh1234 wrote:
May 12th, 2024, 10:01 pm
H-to-X partial

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o11b2o$4bo2bo17b
2o$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo5$
2b2o$3bo$3o5b2o$o7b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: Moved the FNG-catching eater out one diagonal step to standard position -- it interfered with the input where it was before.
Maybe something with this?

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o$4bo2bo$bo2bo
b2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo4$23b2o$2b
2o19bo$3bo20b3o$3o23bo$o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Period1GliderGun » May 14th, 2024, 12:51 am

rayansh1234 wrote:
May 12th, 2024, 10:01 pm
H-to-X partial

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$7b2o4b2o3b2o$7bo2b2o2bo$8b3ob2o2$6b5ob2o$5bo4bob2o11b2o$4bo2bo17b
2o$bo2bob2o$obobo5bo$bo2bo4bobo$4b2o2bo2bo$9b2o6$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo5$
2b2o$3bo$3o5b2o$o7b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: Moved the FNG-catching eater out one diagonal step to standard position -- it interfered with the input where it was before.

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x = 27, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
8b2o15b2o$8bobo2b2o10b2o$5bo4bo3bo$5b5ob3o$9bobo$5b3obobo$4bo2bob2o$4b
2o5$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo4$10b2o$2b2o5bobo$3bo5bo$3o5b2o$o11b2o$11bobo$
11bo$10b2o4bobo$15bob2o$15bo$14b2o!
no, you don't understand, I wanted an eater, not a catalyst shortener
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Jormungant » May 17th, 2024, 2:04 pm

clumsy, but working H-to-B:

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x = 79, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
5$43.2A$27.2A14.A$16.2A8.B2AB10.BA.A$14.2B2AB7.4B7.2B.B2A$14.4B8.4B6.
5B$7.2A5.6B5.5B4.7B4.2A$6.B2AB2.2B.8B.7B3.7B5.A$7.2B2.22B.7B2.3A$8.
35BA$6.36B$5.2B2A32B$4.3B2A32B$5.35B.B.2A3.2A$5.38BA.A.A.A$4.7B.30B.B
.A.A$4.6B.4B2.B3.23B2A.2A$5.9B2.3B3.21B.B$5.8B3.B2AB3.20B$4.8B5.2A5.
4B.13B$4.7B14.4B.11B$5.5B16.18B$5.3D2B17.18B$6.BDB19.17B$6.3D20.16B$
7.B22.6B.8B$31.4B3.7B$32.4B2.7B$33.4B2.6B$34.4B.7B$35.12B$36.12B$37.
12B7.2B$36.6BD2B.4B5.3B$36.5B3D2B.3B4.5B$38.2BD2B2DB2.2B.B.7B$40.6B3.
B.10B5.2A$36.2A2.5B6.10B5.A$35.A.A3B.2B7.10B2.BA.A$35.A3.10B3.10B.B2A
$34.2A3.2B3.5B4.11B$39.2B3.5B.14B$39.2B3.20B$38.3B3.B2D16B$37.4B3.D2B
D14B2A$37.8B2D15B2A3.2A$32.B4.26B3.A2.A$31.3B3.27B.ABA.A$29.6B2.28BA.
A.2A$23.4B2.7B.29BAB.A$21.43B.2B2.A$19.2B2ABD25B3.9B4.B.2A.A$19.B3ABC
AD23B4.5B.2B3.A.A2.A.A$19.2B2AB3CB2A21B5.7B2.2A2.A2.A$19.B3AB2ADB2A
21B6.B.2A.A7.2A$19.B2A30B8.A.5A$25.26B7.A.A5.A$27.B2.20B8.2A2.2A$29.
20B.B.B.4B5.A$28.24B2A8.A$27.25B2A8.2A$22.2A.A24B.2B$22.A.2A.21B$28.
18B$28.18B$28.19B$27.10B4.6B$27.9B6.6B$25.2AB.7B6.3BA3B2.B$24.A.AB5.
2B7.2BABA7B$24.A9.2A6.2BABA7B$23.2A10.A6.3BA9B$32.3A5.2AB.11B$21.B10.
A6.A.AB2.9B$39.A7.7B$38.2A7.6B$48.4B$47.4B!
There is also this h-to-h, but I did not see a way to get that glider out, so that's not working:

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x = 63, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
4$40.B$40.B$22.12B6.2B$21.6BD2B.4B5.3B5.2A$21.5B3D2B.3B4.4B5.A$23.2BD
2B2DB2.2B.B.5B2.BA.A$25.6B3.B.8B.B2A$21.2A2.5B6.10B$20.A.A3B.2B7.10B$
20.A3.10B3.9B$19.2A3.2B3.5B4.7B$24.2B3.5B.9B2A$24.2B3.15B2A3.2A$23.3B
3.B2D13B3.A2.A$22.4B3.D2BD13B.ABA.A$22.8B2D15BA.A.2A$17.B4.26BAB.A$
16.3B3.24B.2B2.A$14.6B2.22B4.B.2A.A$8.4B2.7B.19B.2B3.A.A2.A.A$6.39B2.
2A2.A2.A$4.2B2ABD25B3.3B2A.A7.2A$4.B3ABCAD23B4.2B.A.5A$4.2B2AB3CB2A
21B4.A.A5.A$4.B3AB2ADB2A21B4.2A2.2A$4.B2A30B8.A$10.26B4.B3.A$12.B2.
20B5.B3.2A$14.20B.B.B.2B$13.24B2A$12.25B2A$7.2A.A24B.2B$7.A.2A.21B$
13.18B$13.18B$13.19B$12.10B4.6B$12.9B6.6B$10.2AB.7B6.3BA3B2.B$9.A.AB
5.2B7.2BABA7B$9.A9.2A6.2BABA7B$8.2A10.A6.3BA9B$17.3A5.2AB.11B$6.B10.A
6.A.AB2.9B$24.A7.7B$23.2A7.6B$33.4B$32.4B!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » June 4th, 2024, 3:58 pm

Just for linking.
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by wwei47 » June 14th, 2024, 11:33 am

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1849&p=126841&hilit ... 49#p126657
Three years later, a galumpher derivative can finally delete that beehive.

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x = 92, y = 85, rule = LifeHistory
43.2A$43.2A8.A$52.A.A$52.A.A$51.2A.3A$57.A$51.2A.3A$51.2A.A2$57.2A$
58.A$55.3A$55.A5$59.2A$34.2A23.2A$34.2A2$29.2A$29.2A$59.2A$59.2A4$55.
A$54.A.A$55.2A7$29.2A4.2A$30.A4.2A8.A$27.3A14.A.A$27.A17.A5$64.3D$64.
D$65.D6.2C.C$73.3C$74.C3$31.2A$31.A4.2A48.A$8.2A22.A3.2A46.3A$8.2A21.
2A50.A$40.2A41.2A$39.A.A$40.A3$2.2A8.D15.2A3.D$.A.A6.D.D15.2A2.2D39.
2D$.A8.3D18.2D11.2D26.D2.D$2A8.D21.D10.2D28.2D$33.D10.D3$84.2A5.A$84.
2A3.3A$88.A$88.2A$60.2A$60.A2.A$61.3A2$57.2A.A.2A$57.A.2A.A23.2C$62.A
2.A.2A17.2C$62.4A.A$67.A.A$64.2A2.2A12.2A$64.A17.2A$65.A$64.2A!
Restoring this block using that other R that appears because of it would also work for what it's worth.

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x = 49, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
29.2A.A$30.3A$31.A4$43.A$41.3A$40.A$40.2A7$.2D$2D$.D2$21.D$21.D.D17.
2A5.A$21.3D17.2A3.3A$45.A$45.2A3$21.2C$21.2C2$43.2C$43.2C$30.2A$30.2A
$39.2A$39.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » June 14th, 2024, 4:11 pm

There is a closely LoM-to-G.
The leftmost block is needed to clean the area after the Glider escaped.

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x = 24, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A$3.A11.2A$2.2A11.A.A.2A$2.4B.6B4.A.A$4.12B2A.A$3.15B.A.2A$3.12B4.
A.A$2.9B3E2B2.2A.A.A$2.9BEBE3B5.2A$3.8BE2BE2B$4.8BEBE2B$2.2B.7B3E2B$.
2A14B$.2A15B$2.B.14B.B$4.15B2A$4.15B2A$3.14B.2B$3.14B$4.11B$4.3BD5B$
5.BD5B$5.B3D3B$7.4B$8.2B!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » June 14th, 2024, 4:59 pm

I know double post and with the same kind …
But it's more useful than the precedent post.

Here is a LoM-to-P :

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x = 25, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A$8.A.A$10.A$10.2A2.2A$13.A.A$8.4A.A$8.A2.A.2A8.2A$12.6B5.A$13.B.
4B.BA.A$13.6B.B2A$7.B4.9B$6.2AB.11B$6.2A12B$7.B.12B$9.6B3E4B$11.4BEBE
3B$6.2A3.4BE2BE2B$5.B2A2B2.4BEBE2B$2A4.4B2.4B3E2B$.A5.14B$.A.AB.16B$
2.2AB.16B$4.19B$4.19B$4.20B$5.18B$7.16B$8.11B$8.10B$8.DBD6B$8.D.D3.B$
8.3D!
It works (for example) with the P-to-2G splitter :

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x = 30, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.A.A$15.A$15.2A2.2A$18.A.A$13.4A.A$13.A2.A.2A8.2A$17.6B5.A$
18.B.4B.BA.A$18.6B.B2A$12.B4.9B$11.2AB.11B$11.2A12B$12.B.12B$14.6B3E
4B$16.4BEBE3B$11.2A3.4BE2BE2B$10.B2A2B2.4BEBE2B$5.2A4.4B2.4B3E2B$6.A
5.14B$6.A.AB.16B$7.2AB.16B$9.19B$9.19B$9.20B$9.19B$8.20B$5.2B.16B$4.
21B$2.11BDBD11B$2.4BDBD4BDBD4BDBD4B$.5B2D5B3D5B2D5B$.6BD13BD6B$29B$.
27B$3.4B2.11B2.4B$5.B4.B.8B3.B$13.4B.B$13.3B$12.4B$12.3BAB$13.BABAB$
8.B2.2B2.A.A$7.2AB.B3A2.3A$7.2A2BAB2.2A3.A$8.B.BA.2A2.3A$11.BA2.A.A$
14.A.A$15.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by confocaloid » June 14th, 2024, 5:03 pm

^^ Are there any known LoM-producing components that can precede one of those LoM-consuming conduits?

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by C_R_116 » June 14th, 2024, 9:43 pm

HF60P:

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x = 35, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6bobo$4bobobo$3bobo2bob2o$2bo2bobobo2bo$2b2obobo3bobo$5bob2o3bo$
2b2obo$o2bobo$2o2bo4b2o4b2o$8bo2bo2bo2bo13b2o$2o2bo4b2o4b2o14bobo$o2bo
bo27bo$2b2obo27b2o$5bob2o3bo$2b2obobo3bobo$2bo2bobobo2bo$3bobo2bob2o$
4bobobo$6bobo9b3o7b2o$6b2o11bo8bobo$19b3o8bo$30b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by dvgrn » July 4th, 2024, 5:59 pm

Jormungant posted a rare H-to-E converter in this combined post -- 210 ticks from input to output, not sure how the orientation of an E is defined but I'll try to figure it out and edit it in:

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x = 39, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A$24.A$21.A4.A2.2A$21.5A.A2.A$7.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$8.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A
$8.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$9.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$11.7B3.7B.A$11.16B.2A$12.15B
$11.16B$9.18B$7.19B$7.2BC15B$6.3BCBC4B.7B6.2A$7.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2AB$6.
5BC4B2.9B.4B$5.10B4.15B$4.4B10.16B$4.3B11.17B$2.4B12.17B$2.2AB13.18B$
3.A13.20B$3A15.19B$A17.19B$19.17B$20.17B$23.14B$19.2B3.13B$17.19B$16.
22B$16.2B3C17B$15.2B2C19B$15.3B2C19B$15.23B$15.23B$16.20B$16.2B.16B$
20.15B$22.9B2.B$23.6B$25.3B!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by affamatodidio » July 10th, 2024, 9:08 am

I-G with transparent boat.

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x = 28, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b3ob2o$o15bo$b3ob2o8bobo6b2o$3bob2o8b2o7bobo$26bo$26b
2o4$4b2o$5bo$5b2o$6b2o8$7b2o$7b2o2$19b2obo$19b2ob3o$25bo$19b2ob3o$20b
obo$20bobo$21bo!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by whatislife » July 22nd, 2024, 5:09 am

R-to-glider from Silk: RNW2T62

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x = 51, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
9$6.4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$6.D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$
6.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D9.D$6.4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D4.D4.D3.4D5.D$6.D2.D2.
D3.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$6.D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D2.D6.D3.D3.D2.D$6.D3.D.D3.
D.D3.D.5D3.D4.3D2.5D7$13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.8B$20.8B
$21.7B6.BA$22.10B.BA.A$22.13BA$22.2BC10B$22.2B2C8B$22.B2C9B$22.11B$
23.12B$23.8B2.2A.A$21.B.6B4.2AB3A$20.2A6B6.B4.A$20.2A7B4.2A.3A$20.B.
7B2A3.A.A$18.3A.AB4.BA.A2.A$17.A3.2AB5.B.A3.A$18.2A5.A4.2A.A.A$20.6A
5.A.2A$20.A8.A.A$21.A.A4.A.2A$22.2A4.A$27.2A!
EDIT for conduit collectors: as noted below this probably isn't actually usable. Oh well!
Last edited by whatislife on July 25th, 2024, 4:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by C28 » July 22nd, 2024, 2:06 pm

whatislife wrote:
July 22nd, 2024, 5:09 am
R-to-glider from Silk: RNW2T62

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x = 51, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
9$6.4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$6.D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$
6.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D9.D$6.4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D4.D4.D3.4D5.D$6.D2.D2.
D3.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$6.D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D2.D6.D3.D3.D2.D$6.D3.D.D3.
D.D3.D.5D3.D4.3D2.5D7$13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.8B$20.8B
$21.7B6.BA$22.10B.BA.A$22.13BA$22.2BC10B$22.2B2C8B$22.B2C9B$22.11B$
23.12B$23.8B2.2A.A$21.B.6B4.2AB3A$20.2A6B6.B4.A$20.2A7B4.2A.3A$20.B.
7B2A3.A.A$18.3A.AB4.BA.A2.A$17.A3.2AB5.B.A3.A$18.2A5.A4.2A.A.A$20.6A
5.A.2A$20.A8.A.A$21.A.A4.A.2A$22.2A4.A$27.2A!
you don't need that painful weld

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x = 41, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$D3.D.D
.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D9.D$4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D4.D4.D3.4D5.D$D2.D2.D3.D.D.D.D3.
D5.D3.D3.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D2.D6.D3.D3.D2.D$D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.5D3.D4.3D
2.5D7$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.8B$14.8B$15.7B6.BA$16.10B.B
A.A$16.13BA$16.2BC10B$16.2B2C8B$16.B2C9B$16.11B$17.12B$17.8B2.2A$15.B
.6B4.A$14.2A6B6.3A$14.2A7B7.A$14.B.7B2A$12.3A.AB4.BA.A$11.A3.2AB5.B.A
$12.2A5.A4.2A.2A$14.6A5.A.2A$14.A8.A.A$15.A.A4.A.2A$16.2A4.A$21.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Anivec » July 22nd, 2024, 2:18 pm

C28 wrote:
July 22nd, 2024, 2:06 pm
you don't need that painful weld

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x = 41, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$D3.D.D
.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D9.D$4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D4.D4.D3.4D5.D$D2.D2.D3.D.D.D.D3.
D5.D3.D3.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D2.D6.D3.D3.D2.D$D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.5D3.D4.3D
2.5D7$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.8B$14.8B$15.7B6.BA$16.10B.B
A.A$16.13BA$16.2BC10B$16.2B2C8B$16.B2C9B$16.11B$17.12B$17.8B2.2A$15.B
.6B4.A$14.2A6B6.3A$14.2A7B7.A$14.B.7B2A$12.3A.AB4.BA.A$11.A3.2AB5.B.A
$12.2A5.A4.2A.2A$14.6A5.A.2A$14.A8.A.A$15.A.A4.A.2A$16.2A4.A$21.2A!
And now that there is no weld, one can reduce it futher:

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x = 41, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$D3.D.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$D3.D.D
.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D9.D$4D2.D2.2D.D.D.D4.D4.D3.4D5.D$D2.D2.D3.D.D.D.D3.
D5.D3.D3.D3.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D2.D6.D3.D3.D2.D$D3.D.D3.D.D3.D.5D3.D4.3D
2.5D7$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.8B$14.8B$15.7B6.BA$16.10B.B
A.A$16.13BA$16.2BC10B$16.2B2C8B$16.B2C9B$16.11B$17.12B$17.8B2.2A$15.B
.6B4.A$14.2A6B6.3A$14.2A7B7.A$14.B.7B2A$12.3A.AB4.BA.A$11.A3.2AB5.B.A
2.A$12.2A5.A4.2A.A.A$14.6A5.A2.A$14.A8.A.A$15.A.A5.2A$16.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by confocaloid » July 22nd, 2024, 2:38 pm

I don't seem to be able to find a conduit that can repeatably feed the R into that R-to-glider, though.
This "works" once but doesn't seem useful:

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x = 47, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
28.4B$27.4B$13.D7.2D3.4B$4.A8.2DC3.2B2DB.2B2D$4.3A9.C2.8BD$7.A7.2C2.
6BDBD$6.2A3.B3.10B2D$6.8B3.9B15.A$8.17B15.A.A$8.18B14.A.A$7.20B10.2AB
A2.2A$5.23B8.B2A2.A.A.A$3.31B3.3B2A.A2.A$3.2BC26BD9B.A.2A$2.3BCBC4B.
8BA8B3D7B3.A$3.2B3C4B2.B.4BABA8BD8B2.2A$2.5BC4B7.A2BA17B$.10B8.B2A18B
$4B15.7B2.9B.3B$3B14.2AB2.4B2.8B3.2AB2.2A$2B14.A.AB2.4B2.8B3.A2.A2.A$
B15.A6.B4.7B5.5A$15.2A12.6B$28.5B.B2A5.A$27.BA2B3.BA.A3.A.A$27.A.A7.A
4.A$28.A8.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » July 28th, 2024, 11:28 am

I found a HF137R which is new.
As example of connection, I share a HF137R + RF28B + BFx59H = HFx224H_2 (2nd because there's already a HFx224H).

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x = 124, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
9.D3.D.5D2.D3.3D2.5D.4D27.5D8.3D3.3D5.D9.3D$9.D3.D.D5.2D2.D3.D5.D.D3.
D26.D11.D3.D.D3.D3.2D8.D3.D$9.D3.D.D6.D6.D4.D2.D3.D26.D5.D3.D5.D5.D2.
D.D12.D$9.5D.3D4.D3.3D4.D3.4D27.3D4.D.D5.D5.D2.D2.D11.D$9.D3.D.D6.D6.
D2.D4.D.D28.D7.D5.D5.D3.5D9.D$9.D3.D.D6.D2.D3.D.D5.D2.D27.D6.D.D3.D5.
D7.D9.D$9.D3.D.D5.3D2.3D2.D5.D3.D26.D5.D3.D.5D.5D4.D2.5D.5D4$24.2A57.
2A$24.A58.A$21.A4.A2.2A49.A4.A2.2A$21.5A.A2.A49.5A.A2.A$7.2A16.B.2A.A
.2A32.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$8.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A33.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A$8.A.AB7.A
2.A.A3B2A.A35.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$9.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A35.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.
2A$11.7B3.7B.A40.7B3.7B.A$11.16B.2A40.16B.2A$12.15B44.15B$11.16B43.
16B$9.18B41.18B$7.19B40.19B$7.2BE15B41.2BE15B$6.3BEBE4B.7B41.3BEBE4B.
7B$7.2B3E4B2.7B41.2B3E4B2.7B$6.5BE4B2.8B39.5BE4B2.8B$5.10B4.7B38.10B
4.7B$4.4B10.8B37.4B10.8B$4.3B11.8B4.B32.3B11.8B4.B$2.4B12.10B.3B.2B
26.4B12.10B.3B.2B$2.2AB13.17B8.2A16.2AB13.17B8.2A$3.A13.19B7.A18.A13.
19B7.A$3A15.18B4.BA.A15.3A15.18B4.BA.A$A17.21B.B2A16.A17.21B.B2A$19.
18B2A2B37.18B2A2B$20.11B3.B.BA.AB38.11B3.B.BA.AB$24.7B7.2A43.8B6.2A$
23.8B51.10B$23.8B51.12B$23.8B51.14B5.7B.B$16.2A2.2A.9B43.2A2.2A.9B.4B
5.13B.B$16.A2.A.AB.5BD2B43.A2.A.AB.5BD10BD21B$17.A.A.B.6B2DB44.A.A.B.
6B2D10BD21BD$16.2A.2A3.4B2D3B42.2A.2A3.4B2D11B2D18B3DB$19.A4.8B46.A4.
16B2D2B2A15BDBD$19.A.A3.6B47.A.A3.15BD3B2A15BD$20.2A3.5B49.2A3.5B2.
19B3.2B2.2B$26.2B57.2B4.2B3.B2.10B$25.2A57.2A6.AB6.6B$25.A58.A6.A.A7.
3B$26.3A56.3A3.2A8.B$28.A58.A12.2A$100.A$101.A$100.2A4$84.D2.3D3.3D2.
D$83.D2.D3.D.D3.D2.D$82.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$82.D4.3D5.D4.D$82.D3.D3.D3.D5.D
$83.D2.D3.D2.D5.D$84.D2.3D2.5D.D2$64.D13.5D2.3D18.D4.3D2.D$63.D2.D3.D
.5D.D5.D3.D4.D3.D.5D.2D3.D3.D2.D$62.D4.D.D8.D9.D4.D3.D8.D3.D3.D3.D$
62.D5.D10.3D3.3D5.D3.D8.D4.3D4.D$62.D4.D.D12.D5.D5.4D8.D3.D3.D3.D$63.
D2.D3.D.5D.D3.D.D3.D2.D5.D.5D2.D3.D3.D2.D$64.D14.3D3.3D3.D5.D7.3D3.3D
2.D$90.D3.3D!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Jormungant » July 28th, 2024, 5:42 pm

Well, I have been updating that collection from 2020, there is probably many things that are a bit off in here still though. One issue is that I introduced an alternative way to annotate g-to-g, since the fact that the initial position is meaningless, as one can move and flip the input glider, and that would change the name of the reflector unit. Basically, I just labeled these as "CC" "CP" for 90 degree reflectors, "SH" from shifts, and "RT" for 180 degrees reflectors, the delay number one gets for CC and CP match what one would get if the glider towards NE (but not SW), and SH matches what SE would give too, but only if the glider got shifted toward the East. The reason that value makes more sense, is that if you were to enqueue multiple CC/CP reflector, bouncing NE->SE->NE ..., with the occasional shifts, the "horizontal delay" simply adds up.

In theory, the RT only cares about some delay value that is modulo 8, but I kept some things slightly like the previous annotation, but it is not set in stone, the only issue is that a glider that returns exactly on the same lane gets a shift of 1, using the current naming scheme, so at least that should be resolved for clarity sake...

In any case, if your favorite pattern is missing, feel free to PM me, but I think only patterns that can be combined to have both valid input and outputs should be included. But I attached the file I currently have, so if you insist on having some dubious pattern included, you can just add them yourself, hopefully the additions here would be useful to get to update the antiquated collection.
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by simeks » July 30th, 2024, 12:38 pm

I found this Pi-to-G converter that looks simple enough, but it is not in the newly updated collection (thanks for doing that!).
If I've done my math right it is a PSE10T-8:

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x = 47, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
4D3.3D2.5D3.D4.3D2.5D8.3D$D3.D.D3.D.D6.2D3.D3.D3.D9.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D7.D
3.D2.2D3.D9.D3.D$4D3.3D2.3D5.D3.D.D.D3.D3.5D2.3D$D9.D.D7.D3.2D2.D3.D
9.D3.D$D5.D3.D.D7.D3.D3.D3.D9.D3.D$D6.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D4.D10.3D16$13.A
11.A$13.3A7.3A$16.A5.A$15.2A5.2A$15.9B$15.7B$14.9B$13.9B7.2A$14.8B6.A
.A$15.8B.2B2.BA$15.B3E10B$17.BE10B$16.3E11B$16.15B$15.7B2.B3.4B$15.6B
2.3B3.4B$16.6B.B2AB3.4B$16.5B3.2A5.4B$17.2B13.4B$16.2A15.3B$16.A17.2B
$17.3A15.B$19.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » July 31st, 2024, 8:00 am

I solved a AlbertArmStain's R catalyst and got this RR62P :

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x = 40, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
$3.4D2.4D3.3D3.3D2.4D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D9.D.D3.D$
3.4D2.4D2.4D5.D2.4D$3.D2.D2.D2.D2.D3.D3.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.D4.D$
3.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D.D4$21.A.A$16.2A2.A.2A2.A$4.4B8.A3.A3.3A$3.5B3.2A
4.3A.2A$3.6B.B2AB5.A.A.2A$3.6B.4B5.2BA.A.A$3.5B3.2B2.4B.BA2B.A2.A$3.
2BE14B2A2B2A.A.A$3.2B2E13B5.A2.A$3.B2E14B3.A.A$3.16B4.2A$3.13B$4.12B$
3.11B$4.10B$5.9B$6.9B$6.9B.BA$6.10BA.A$5.9B.2BA$6.5B5.B$6.5B$6.BDBD$
7.DBD$7.3D!
Edit:
There is also this R-to-G which is not in the collection :

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$.4B.4B$9B$8B$7B$7B7.A$2BD5B5.A.A$2B2D5B4.A.A$B2D
6B.2B2A2.2A$8B2.BA2.A.A$.9B.AB2A.A$2.6B2A.A3.A$6.B.BA2.A.A$7.2BA.2A.
2A$7.A.A.A$5.3A.A.A$4.A5.A$4.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Anivec » July 31st, 2024, 11:48 am

Tawal wrote:
July 31st, 2024, 8:00 am
I solved a AlbertArmStain's R catalyst and got this RR62P :

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x = 40, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
$3.4D2.4D3.3D3.3D2.4D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D9.D.D3.D$
3.4D2.4D2.4D5.D2.4D$3.D2.D2.D2.D2.D3.D3.D3.D$3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D2.D4.D$
3.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D.D4$21.A.A$16.2A2.A.2A2.A$4.4B8.A3.A3.3A$3.5B3.2A
4.3A.2A$3.6B.B2AB5.A.A.2A$3.6B.4B5.2BA.A.A$3.5B3.2B2.4B.BA2B.A2.A$3.
2BE14B2A2B2A.A.A$3.2B2E13B5.A2.A$3.B2E14B3.A.A$3.16B4.2A$3.13B$4.12B$
3.11B$4.10B$5.9B$6.9B$6.9B.BA$6.10BA.A$5.9B.2BA$6.5B5.B$6.5B$6.BDBD$
7.DBD$7.3D!
Edit:
There is also this R-to-G which is not in the collection :

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x = 18, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$.4B.4B$9B$8B$7B$7B7.A$2BD5B5.A.A$2B2D5B4.A.A$B2D
6B.2B2A2.2A$8B2.BA2.A.A$.9B.AB2A.A$2.6B2A.A3.A$6.B.BA2.A.A$7.2BA.2A.
2A$7.A.A.A$5.3A.A.A$4.A5.A$4.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Tawal » August 3rd, 2024, 8:12 am

I found a HFx97R which is not in the collection.
On left this is the really output (R +3ticks), on the right, the theoretical R output :

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x = 81, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
3.D3.D.5D8.3D2.5D.4D$3.D3.D.D11.D3.D5.D.D3.D$3.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D4.D2.
D3.D$3.5D.3D4.D.D3.4D3.D3.4D$3.D3.D.D7.D7.D2.D4.D2.D$3.D3.D.D6.D.D6.D
.D5.D3.D$3.D3.D.D5.D3.D2.3D2.D5.D3.D10$17.A11.2A36.A11.2A$17.3A8.A.A
36.3A8.A.A$20.A7.A41.A7.A$19.2A6.2A40.2A6.2A$19.4B2.BA42.4B2.BA$21.5B
3A42.5B3A$18.7B.B2.A38.7B.B2.A$16.9B3.2A36.9B3.2A$7.2A7.9B32.2A7.9B$
8.A7.10B32.A7.10B$8.A.AB5.9B32.A.AB5.9B$9.2AB.14B32.2AB.14B$11.17B33.
17B$11.17B33.17B$12.15B35.15B$11.15B35.15B$9.14B2DB33.17B$7.16B3D31.
16B2DB$7.2BE13BD2BD30.2BE14B2DB$6.3BEBE4B.7B2D30.3BEBE4B.7BDB$7.2B3E
4B2.7B32.2B3E4B2.7B$6.5BE4B2.8B30.5BE4B2.8B$5.10B2.8B30.10B2.8B$4.4B
9.8B29.4B9.8B$4.3B9.9B29.3B9.9B$2.4B10.10B26.4B10.10B$2.2AB10.10B27.
2AB10.10B$3.A11.11B27.A11.11B$3A12.11B24.3A12.11B$A15.10B24.A15.10B$
17.8B42.8B$17.9B41.9B$15.2AB.7B39.2AB.7B$14.A.AB3.4B39.A.AB3.4B$14.A
5.B2A2B39.A5.B2A2B$13.2A6.2A40.2A6.2A!
There is also this dirty H-to-E with an annoying Blinker :

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x = 42, y = 42, rule = LifeHistory
17.A11.2A$17.3A8.A.A$20.A7.A$19.2A6.2A$19.4B2.BA$21.5B3A$18.7B.B2.A$
16.9B3.2A$7.2A7.9B$8.A7.10B$8.A.AB5.9B$9.2AB.14B$11.17B$11.17B$12.15B
$11.15B$9.17B$7.20B$7.2BE18B$6.3BEBE4B.10B$7.2B3E4B2.8B$6.5BE4B2.8B4.
3B$5.10B2.8B4.2B3D$4.4B9.2BD5B.7B2D$4.3B9.3BD12B2D$2.4B10.3BD14B$2.2A
11.19B$3.A10.20B$3A11.19B$A13.23B$14.24B$15.23B$18.20B$19.17B.B2A$20.
12B5.BA.A$22.6B.5B6.A$24.3B5.2A6.2A$22.7B3.A$22.2A.B.2A4.3A$23.A3.A7.
A$20.3A5.3A$20.A9.A!
Edit:
It can be engineered clean up but it has a very bad RT :

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x = 74, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
49.A11.2A$49.3A8.A.A$52.A7.A$51.2A6.2A$51.4B2.BA$53.5B3A$50.7B.B2.A$
48.9B3.2A$39.2A7.9B$40.A7.10B$40.A.AB5.9B$41.2AB.14B$43.17B$43.17B$
44.15B$43.15B$41.17B$39.20B$39.2BE18B$38.3BEBE4B.10B$39.2B3E4B2.8B$
38.5BE4B2.8B4.3B$37.10B2.8B4.2B3D$36.4B9.2BD5B.7B2D$35.4B9.3BD12B2D$
34.4B10.3BD14B$33.4B10.19B$32.4B10.20B$31.4B11.19B$30.4B12.23B$29.4B
13.24B$28.4B13.25B$27.4B13.4B2.20B$26.4B13.4B4.17B.B2A$25.4B3.A9.4B6.
12B5.BA.A$24.4B4.3A6.4B9.6B.5B6.A$9.A13.4B8.A4.4B12.3B5.2A6.2A$9.3A
10.4B8.2A3.4B11.7B3.A$12.A8.4B9.8B12.2A.B.2A4.3A$11.2A7.4B6.2A4.5B14.
A3.A7.A$11.5B3.4B3.2A.A.BAB.5B6.2B4.3A5.3A$13.3B2.4B4.2A.A.2AB2.12B4.
A9.A$3.2A7.9B8.A.B.B3.13B$3.A8.8B9.A.2A2B2.13B$2A.A.B3.10B11.A2.AB.
14B3.2A$A2.3AB.2B2A7B12.2ABA17B2.A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B9.3A2.A6B2A11B.A.2A$
3.4A12B9.A2.A2.6B2A9B.3A2.A$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A8.2A3.17BAB2.2A$4.3AB2.7B.B
A.A2.2A9.5B2A6B.2B4A$7.A3.5B5.A2.A9.6B2A3B4.4B.A$2.5A5.4B5.3A2.A6.12B
6.2A.A.A$2.A10.4B7.3A5.4B.8B7.A2.2A$4.A9.4B5.A7.4B3.7B5.A.A$3.2A10.4B
4.2A5.4B5.5B6.2A$16.9B4.4B6.5B$17.6B5.4B7.2A2B$17.8B2.4B7.2BA3B$15.
15B8.A.A.A.A$15.14B7.3ABA.2A.A$15.13B7.A5.A3.A$13.2AB.10B9.A.2A.A3.2A
$12.A.AB3.B2A5B10.2A.A$12.A6.B2A3B$11.2A6.4B$20.3B$21.2B.BA$20.B2ABA.
A$19.BABABA.A$17.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$17.4A.2A2.A2.A$21.A4.2A$19.A.A$19.2A!
Edit2:
It seems that the HFx97R is not connectable :?
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