Newbie post

[rkyo]

Hey guys. I am a massive newbie. I have made a simple start guy thing that dies after 9,681 generations. I'd like to think this is good. But I have no reference. Where should I post this?

[confocaloid]

Did you use Golly to make it? Can you copy and paste the RLE here?

From the description it sounds like you are talking about some diehard or methuselah. Unless it's particularly small or otherwise unusual in some unstated way, there are just too many diehards and most people don't consider them interesting.

Minor one-answer questions like this one should be posted in Thread for basic questions, instead of starting a whole new thread.

Hey guys. I am a massive newbie. I have made a simple start guy thing that dies after 9,681 generations. I'd like to think this is good. But I have no reference. Where should I post this?

[hotdogPi]

If it's actually a diehard (i.e. vanishes entirely, leaving nothing behind), 9,681 generations is actually impressive.

[rkyo]

Hello
I made it by hand on playgameoflife.com I just drew it with my mouse.
It does not disappear and leaves ash. (I think that's what it's called.) Although I have not heard of 'diehard' before.
So sorry to have posted on the wrong thread. Like I say, I just joined ten minutes ago.
+r

[confocaloid]

If it's a long-lived pattern that leaves ash, then it's a methuselah. There is a page listing relatively noteworthy examples of those: List of long-lived methuselahs

[rkyo]

So, my guy should be in that list between 14911 and 7468?

[LuveelVoom]

It’s still possibly impressive if the final bounding box or population is very large or small compared to the initial bb or pop.
Also, I would recommend using lifeviewer or golly for future experiments, they’re much more flexible.

[rkyo]

It’s still possibly impressive if the final bounding box or population is very large or small compared to the initial bb or pop.
Also, I would recommend using lifeviewer or golly for future experiments, they’re much more flexible.

Thanks, the website is well flakey. I put my design in Golly and it worked. Where do I submit it?

Plus, It starts with 64 blocks and leaves 1,271.

[hotdogPi]

I assume you mean "cells", not "blocks". (Blocks are 2×2 and stable by themselves.)

Copy the pattern in Golly. The clipboard will have some code you might not understand, but just paste it here inside a </> block and it will be shown here as this website uses the same code.

Example, although yours will be longer:

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x = 2, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o!

[rkyo]

I assume you mean "cells", not "blocks". (Blocks are 2×2 and stable by themselves.)

Copy the pattern in Golly. The clipboard will have some code you might not understand, but just paste it here inside a </> block and it will be shown here as this website uses the same code.

Example, although yours will be longer:

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x = 2, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o!

Yes I do. About to post now.

[rkyo]

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#CXRLE Pos=-20,-3
x = 62, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
60bo$61bo$62o!

[confocaloid]

Note that the "LV" tags (which you used) are discouraged, and shouldn't be used without necessity. In most cases, one should prefer "pattern" tags instead, to avoid forcing readers to scroll through large patterns. There is a button "pattern" above the "Post a reply" form. Example:

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#CXRLE Pos=-20,-3
x = 62, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
60bo$61bo$62o!

[rkyo]

Note that the "LV" tags (which you used) are discouraged, and shouldn't be used without necessity. In most cases, one should prefer "pattern" tags instead, to avoid forcing readers to scroll through large patterns. There is a button "pattern" above the "Post a reply" form. Example:

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#CXRLE Pos=-20,-3
x = 62, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
60bo$61bo$62o!

Changed. Your example was not clear as I couldn't see its HTML.But I get it now. Thanks.

[confocaloid]

Your example was not clear as I couldn't see its HTML.

If you see a forum post using some markup, you can begin "quoting the post" (but without actually posting a reply) to see the underlying BBCode formatting.

I'd like to think this is good. But I have no reference.

Most beginners start by drawing lines or other simple configurations, those usually evolve chaotically in a hard-to-predict way. There are very many such "random-looking drawings", and only few of them are somehow unique or noteworthy. (However, see for example Lifeline Volume 8#Page_3)

Most "noteworthy" things come from combining reactions in ways that lead to something that isn't entirely chaotic (interacting components/parts), or from proving or disproving something about all possible configurations/reactions of some sort, or from looking for configurations that are in some sense "optimal" or "minimal" according to some metric.

[rkyo]

Your example was not clear as I couldn't see its HTML.

If you see a forum post using some markup, you can begin "quoting the post" (but without actually posting a reply) to see the underlying BBCode formatting.

I'd like to think this is good. But I have no reference.

Most beginners start by drawing lines or other simple configurations, those usually evolve chaotically in a hard-to-predict way. There are very many such "random-looking drawings", and only few of them are somehow unique or noteworthy. (However, see for example Lifeline Volume 8#Page_3)

Most "noteworthy" things come from combining reactions in ways that lead to something that isn't entirely chaotic (interacting components/parts), or from looking for configurations that are in some sense "optimal" or "minimal" according to some metric.

My design is not a random set of dots and blocks added to make a big splash. I have been experimenting with extending the core glider for some time. Watching how its offset tail (nose?) affects the growth of the community. At first, I thought that the line had to be an uneven number of cells long. Or even a prime number. But 62 seemed to just take off. I was not trying to build a beautiful mathematical model, I was trying to create a simple design that would yield a long sequence... I was genuinely excited when I discovered this.

EDIT by dvgrn: removed several forum rule violations; sending a PM.

[confocaloid]

I was simply trying to explain that "random-looking" drawings aren't generally considered noteworthy. Posting them would quickly clutter the forums.

[WhiteHawk]

I was simply trying to explain that "random-looking" drawings aren't generally considered noteworthy. Posting them would quickly clutter the forums.

Can someone please merge this thread with Unsure Discoveries or a more appropriate thread?