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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » February 23rd, 2025, 4:31 pm

I saw this spartan HF catalyst from cvojan and iNoMed :
cvojan wrote:
February 6th, 2022, 4:00 pm
New spartan honeyfarm catalyst by me and completed by iNoMed:

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x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
12bo$11bobo6b2o$11b2o7bo$18bobo$18b2o$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o$18b2o$2o16bobo$
obo17bo$obo17b2o$bo3b2o$5bobo$7bo$7b2o2b2o$11b2o!
It gives 2 opposite Gliders and a nice edgy chaos.
I make some fast searches on the chaos and I find this H output keeping the 2 Gliders.
But I don't find a way to inject the HF.

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x = 37, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
3.A9.A$3.3A5.3A22.B$6.A3.A24.2B$5.2A.B.2A22.3B$5.7B21.4B$7.3B22.4B$4.
9B18.4B$3.11B2.B13.4B$2.BA14B11.4B$.BABA12B2A9.4B$2.B2A10B.B2A8.4B$4.
10B3.B8.4B$5.3BA4B12.4B$6.BABA3B4.A6.4B$6.BABA2B3.3A5.4B$5.3BA3B2.A7.
4B$6.5B3.2A5.4B$6.10B4.4B$6.5B3C5.4B$5.5BC3BCB2.4B$5.4BC5BC5B7.2A$5.
4BC2BD2BC4B7.A2.A$4.5BC5BC3B8.A.A.A$4.6BC3BC3B6.2ABA2.A.A$5.6B3C6B4.
2A2.A.A.A$6.20B.2A.2A$7.B2.15B$11.15B$10.18B2.2B$11.22BD$11.22BDBD$
13.20B3DB$12.23BD$11.4B2.17B$10.4B3.5B2.3B.B$9.4B5.B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$
5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B$3B!
Does anyone made some further searches on that edgy chaos ?
Does this catalyst used somewhere ?
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by confocaloid » February 23rd, 2025, 4:40 pm

Tawal wrote:
February 23rd, 2025, 4:31 pm
[...] But I don't find a way to inject the HF.

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x = 37, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
3.A9.A$3.3A5.3A22.B$6.A3.A24.2B$5.2A.B.2A22.3B$5.7B21.4B$7.3B22.4B$4.
9B18.4B$3.11B2.B13.4B$2.BA14B11.4B$.BABA12B2A9.4B$2.B2A10B.B2A8.4B$4.
10B3.B8.4B$5.3BA4B12.4B$6.BABA3B4.A6.4B$6.BABA2B3.3A5.4B$5.3BA3B2.A7.
4B$6.5B3.2A5.4B$6.10B4.4B$6.5B3C5.4B$5.5BC3BCB2.4B$5.4BC5BC5B7.2A$5.
4BC2BD2BC4B7.A2.A$4.5BC5BC3B8.A.A.A$4.6BC3BC3B6.2ABA2.A.A$5.6B3C6B4.
2A2.A.A.A$6.20B.2A.2A$7.B2.15B$11.15B$10.18B2.2B$11.22BD$11.22BDBD$
13.20B3DB$12.23BD$11.4B2.17B$10.4B3.5B2.3B.B$9.4B5.B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$
5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B$3B!
[...]
It can be preceded by an old known honeyfarm factory, resulting in a Fx201 Herschel conduit, which can be preceded by Conduit 1 (BFx59H) at the cost of one of those two gliders:

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x = 42, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
9bo9bo$9b3o5b3o$12bo3bo$11b2o3b2o5$9bo$8bobo12b2o$9b2o12b2o2$14bo$13bo
bo7bo$13bobo5b3o$14bo5bo$20b2o4$34b2o$33bo2bo$33bobobo$30b2obo2bobo$
30b2o2bobobo$33b2ob2o4$39bo$39bo$39b3o$41bo4$o$bo21bo15b2o$b2o18b3o11b
o3b2o$2o2b2o15bo12bobo$o3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$27bobo3bo$29bo2b2o$29b2o$21b
2o$21bo$b2o9b2o8b3o$bo6bo3b2o10bo$2bo4bobo$b2o3bobo$6bo$5b2o!
edit: some information/earlier uses of that HF factory:
Sphenocorona wrote:
November 18th, 2022, 8:01 pm
Two new H-to-Gs using a new edgy HF-to-G based on one of the new HF catalysts:

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x = 110, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D3.D4.3D3.3D17.D3.D.D3.D8.3D3.3D2.5D.5D2.3D$2D2.D.D
5.D3.D.D3.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D16.2D2.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D3.D7.D.D$D.D.D.D
9.D5.D3.D5.D3.D2.2D.D3.D16.D.D.D.D3.D11.D.D2.2D3.D6.D2.D$D2.2D.3D6.D
5.D4.D5.D3.D.D.D2.3D17.D2.2D.D.D.D.5D3.2D2.D.D.D3.D5.D3.4D$D3.D.D7.D
5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D.D3.D16.D3.D.D.D.D11.D.2D2.D3.D4.D4.D3.D$D3.D.D6.D5.D
6.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D16.D3.D.2D.2D7.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D3.D$D3.D.5D.5D.5D3.
D4.3D3.3D3.3D17.D3.D.D3.D8.3D3.3D4.D3.D6.3D5$24.A66.A$22.3A64.3A$21.A
66.A$21.2A65.2A$16.7B6.2A52.7B6.2A$15.8B6.A52.8B6.A$14.10B2.BA.A51.
10B2.BA.A$14.7BC3B.B2A52.7BC3B.B2A$15.6BCBC3B55.6BCBC3B$14.7B3C3B54.
7B3C3B$11.12BC3B51.12BC3B$10.17B50.17B$10.16B13.B24.B12.16B$11.15B12.
2B24.2B12.15B$15.10B12.3B24.3B15.10B$14.12B10.4B24.4B13.12B$15.12B8.
4B26.4B13.12B$16.11B7.4B28.4B13.11B$15.12B6.4B30.4B11.12B$14.12B6.4B
32.4B9.12B$13.12B6.4B34.4B7.12B$12.13B5.4B36.4B5.13B$13.11B5.4B38.4B
5.11B$13.11B4.4B40.4B4.11B$14.10B3.4B42.4B3.10B$13.12B.4B44.4B.12B$
13.16B46.16B$13.15B48.15B$11.2AB.13B48.13B.B2A$10.A.AB.7B2.4B48.4B2.
7B.BA.A$10.A6.4B4.B.B2A44.2AB.B4.4B6.A$9.2A6.3BA2B4.BA.A42.A.AB4.2BA
3B6.2A$19.ABA4B4.A42.A4.4BABA$20.A.A.2A4.2A40.2A4.2A.A.A$18.A.A.ABABA
50.ABABA.A.A$17.A.A.A4.A50.A4.A.A.A$17.A.A2.4A52.4A2.A.A$18.2A64.2A$
24.2A52.2A$24.2A52.2A!
I feel like this one's edgy enough that there *should* be more HF sources to combine it with, but I couldn't find any with a quick cursory search.
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 24th, 2025, 7:42 pm

confocaloid wrote:
February 23rd, 2025, 4:40 pm
It can be preceded by an old known honeyfarm factory, resulting in a Fx201 Herschel conduit, which can be preceded by Conduit 1 (BFx59H) at the cost of one of those two gliders:

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x = 42, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
9bo9bo$9b3o5b3o$12bo3bo$11b2o3b2o5$9bo$8bobo12b2o$9b2o12b2o2$14bo$13bo
bo7bo$13bobo5b3o$14bo5bo$20b2o4$34b2o$33bo2bo$33bobobo$30b2obo2bobo$
30b2o2bobobo$33b2ob2o4$39bo$39bo$39b3o$41bo4$o$bo21bo15b2o$b2o18b3o11b
o3b2o$2o2b2o15bo12bobo$o3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$27bobo3bo$29bo2b2o$29b2o$21b
2o$21bo$b2o9b2o8b3o$bo6bo3b2o10bo$2bo4bobo$b2o3bobo$6bo$5b2o!
The conduit can be connected to the eater 1 position in Fx77:

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x = 43, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo$
14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo$21b2o15b2o$38b2o2$36b4o$35bo3b3o$34bob2o
4bo$34bobo4b2o$31b2obo2bo$31b2o2bobo$34b2ob2o4$40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b
2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b2o15bo12bobo$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$
28bobo3bo$30bo2b2o$30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b3o$2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bo
bo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 24th, 2025, 7:55 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 24th, 2025, 7:42 pm
confocaloid wrote:
February 23rd, 2025, 4:40 pm
It can be preceded by an old known honeyfarm factory, resulting in a Fx201 Herschel conduit, which can be preceded by Conduit 1 (BFx59H) at the cost of one of those two gliders:
The conduit can be connected to the eater 1 position in Fx77:

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x = 43, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo$
14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo$21b2o15b2o$38b2o2$36b4o$35bo3b3o$34bob2o
4bo$34bobo4b2o$31b2obo2bo$31b2o2bobo$34b2ob2o4$40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b
2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b2o15bo12bobo$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$
28bobo3bo$30bo2b2o$30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b3o$2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bo
bo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
It can't weld to the eater position in Fx153, but a drifty eater 3 weld where it works the same as the eater is possible:

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x = 44, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo
$14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo20b2o$21b2o18bobo$38bo2bo$37bobob2o$37bo
bo$35bobob4o$34bobobo3bo$34bobo2b3o$31b2obo2bobo$31b2o2bobobo$34b2ob2o
4$40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b2o15bo12b
obo$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$28bobo3bo$30bo2b2o$30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b
3o$2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bobo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
Edit: corrected RLE
Last edited by hotcrystal0 on February 24th, 2025, 7:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 24th, 2025, 7:56 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 24th, 2025, 7:55 pm
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 24th, 2025, 7:42 pm

The conduit can be connected to the eater 1 position in Fx77:

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x = 43, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo$
14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo$21b2o15b2o$38b2o2$36b4o$35bo3b3o$34bob2o
4bo$34bobo4b2o$31b2obo2bo$31b2o2bobo$34b2ob2o4$40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b
2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b2o15bo12bobo$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$
28bobo3bo$30bo2b2o$30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b3o$2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bo
bo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
It can't weld to the eater position in Fx153, but a drifty eater 3 weld where it works the same as the eater is possible:

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duplicate RLE
I assume you mean this (for the eater that simply eats the first natural block):

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x = 44, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo$
14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo20b2o$21b2o18bobo$38bo2bo$37bobob2o$36bo2b
o$35bo3b4o$34bob3o3bo$34bobo2b3o$31b2obo2bobo$31b2o2bobobo$34b2ob2o4$
40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b2o15bo12bobo
$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo$28bobo3bo$30bo2b2o$30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b3o$
2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bobo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by confocaloid » February 24th, 2025, 7:59 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 24th, 2025, 7:42 pm
The conduit can be connected to the eater 1 position in Fx77:
Here is a more complete version to reduce confusion, to make sure that Fx77 is actually present in the posted pattern:

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x = 73, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
10bo9bo$10b3o5b3o$13bo3bo$12b2o3b2o5$10bo$9bobo12b2o$10b2o12b2o2$15bo$
14bobo7bo$14bobo5b3o$15bo5bo$21b2o13b2o$36b2o2$36b4o$35bo3b3o$34bob2o
4bo$34bobo4b2o11b2o11bo3b2o$31b2obo2bo16b2o9b3o3b2o$31b2o2bobo27bo$34b
2ob2o26bo4$40bo$40bo$40b3o$42bo5$b2o21bo15b2o$2b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$b2o2b
2o15bo12bobo16b2o$bo3b2o15bo5b2o4bobo17bo$28bobo3bo20b3o$30bo2b2o22bo$
30b2o$22b2o$22bo$2b2o9b2o8b3o$2bo6bo3b2o10bo$obo5bobo$2o5bobo$7bo$6b2o!
Here is a way to precede the contraption with a variant of RF48H (instead of BFx59H) letting both gliders escape, however not sure whether there are any known reasonable ways to continue the track backwards:

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x = 81, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
33bo$31b3o$30bo$30b2o$38b2o$38bo2b2o22bo$36bobo3bo20b3o$11bo18bo5b2o4b
obo17bo$11b2o17bo12bobo16b2o$ob2o6b2o18b3o11bo3b2o$2o2bo27bo15b2o$3bo$
2ob2o$obo2bo$3b2o$50bo$3b2o43b3o$3bo3bo40bo$4b4o40bo2$4b2o$4b2o$42b2ob
2o26bo$39b2o2bobo27bo$39b2obo2bo16b2o9b3o3b2o$42bobo4b2o11b2o11bo3b2o$
42bob2o4bo$43bo3b3o$44b4o2$44b2o$29b2o13b2o$23bo5bo$22bobo5b3o$22bobo
7bo$23bo2$18b2o12b2o$17bobo12b2o$18bo5$20b2o3b2o$21bo3bo$18b3o5b3o$18b
o9bo!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » February 25th, 2025, 2:13 pm

Different Beehive bait to Pi.
The Beehive is one cell closer to the Pi than the usual G+Beehive=PI.
Perhaps a start for a new G-to-X :roll:

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x = 44, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
.C19.C$2.C19.C$3C17.3C$.4B16.4B$2.4B16.4B$3.4B16.4B$4.4B16.4B$5.4B16.
4B$6.4B16.4B12.2A$7.4B16.4B11.A$8.4B16.4B7.BA.A$9.4B2.3B11.5B.2B2.B2A
$10.7BE12.6BE3B$11.3D2BE.E12.3DBEBE3B$11.D4BE.E12.D3BEBE2B$11.3D3BE
13.3D2BEB.B2A$13.5B15.B5.BA.A$15.B26.A$42.2A!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » March 7th, 2025, 10:58 pm

H to U-turner but I didn't find a U-to-X that fits.

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x = 35, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$11.B2AB5.2A$12.3B5.A$13.B3.BA.A$9.7B.B2A$8.10B$8.7B2AB$8.6BA2BA
$6.2AB.5B2AB$5.A.AB.8B$5.A4.8B3.2B$4.2A5.12B$11.14B$11.15B$9.18B7.A$
7.21B4.3A$7.2BC19B2.A$6.3BCBC17B2.2A$7.2B3C17B.3B$6.5BC19B$5.10B.16B$
4.4B9.15B$4.3B10.15B$2.4B10.15B$2.2A13.13B$3.A14.10B$3A18.6B$A19.7B$
19.2D5B$19.DBD2B.3B$20.3D3.2A$20.3D3.A$27.3A$29.A!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by WhiteHawk » March 8th, 2025, 8:48 am

Tawal wrote:
March 7th, 2025, 10:58 pm
H to U-turner but I didn't find a U-to-X that fits.
Something that might work if the u-to-b was stable or had higher clearance

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x = 35, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$11.B2AB5.2A$12.3B5.A$13.B3.BA.A$9.7B.B2A$8.10B$8.7B2AB$8.6BA2BA
$6.2AB.5B2AB$5.A.AB.8B$5.A4.8B3.2B$4.2A5.12B$11.14B$11.15B$9.18B7.A$7.
21B4.3A$7.2BC19B2.A$6.3BCBC17B2.2A$7.2B3C17B.3B$6.5BC19B$5.10B.16B$4.
4B9.15B$4.3B10.8BD6B$2.4B10.9B2D4B$2.2A13.9B2D2B$3.A14.8BDB$3A18.4BDB
$A19.7B$19.2D5B$10.2A7.DBD2B.3B$9.A.A8.3D3.2A$9.A10.3D3.A$8.2A17.3A$29.
A!
EDIT: Even worse! (H to U to C but the Century is smack dab in the middle)

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x = 35, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$11.B2AB5.2A$12.3B5.A$13.B3.BA.A$9.7B.B2A$8.10B$8.7B2AB$8.6BA2BA
$6.2AB.5B2AB$5.A.AB.8B$5.A4.8B3.2B$4.2A5.12B$11.14B$11.15B$9.18B7.A$7.
21B4.3A$7.2BC19B2.A$6.3BCBC17B2.2A$7.2B3C17B.3B$6.5BC10B2D7B$5.10B.5B
D2BD7B$4.4B9.7BD7B$4.3B10.6B2D7B$2.4B10.15B$2.2A13.13B$3.A14.10B$3A18.
6B$A19.7B$19.2D5B$19.DBD2B.3B$8.A.2A8.3D3.2A$6.3A.2A8.3D3.A$5.A21.3A$
6.3A.2A17.A$8.A.A$8.A.A$9.A!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » March 11th, 2025, 10:05 pm

Could this be made into a conduit? The stuff could react with the R in such a way that it deletes the blinker as well as gives a useful output.

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x = 37, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A$8.2A6.2A$16.A$14.A.A$14.2A2$11.2A$10.A2.A6.A$2.2A7.2A7.3A$.A.A19.
A$.A20.2A$2A3$25.D$24.3D$5.C17.2D2.D$5.C.C$5.3C$7.C$34.D$34.D$34.D6$34.
2D$14.2A19.2D$13.A.A19.D$13.A$12.2A5.2A$18.A.A$18.A$17.2A2$28.D.D$28.
D.D$28.3D!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » March 13th, 2025, 4:32 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
March 11th, 2025, 10:05 pm
Could this be made into a conduit? The stuff could react with the R in such a way that it deletes the blinker as well as gives a useful output.

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snip
This one works but it use the R output to clean the Blinker and the P output is too close :

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x = 50, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.B2AB5.2A$9.3B5.A$10.B3.BA.A$6.7B.B2A$5.10B$5.7B2AB$5.6BA2BA6.A
$3.2AB.5B2AB6.3A$2.A.AB.8B9.A$2.A4.8B3.2B3.2A$.2A5.12B3.5B.B$8.14B3.
6B$8.15B.8B$6.20BD5B$4.21B3D4B$4.2BC17B2D2BD2B$3.3BCBC25B.B$4.2B3C29B
$3.5BC29B7.A$2.10B.22BD4B4.A.A$.4B9.21BD5B3.A.A$4B10.21BD4B3.2A.3A$3B
12.23B6.B4.A$2B13.26B2.2AB3A$B16.25B.2A.A$18.27B$17.9B.16B$17.9B.8B2D
7B$15.2AB.17B2D7B$14.A.AB4.14BD8B$14.A7.21B.B2A$13.2A5.2AB.18B2.BA.A$
19.A.AB3.16B5.A$19.A6.15B6.2A$18.2A7.6B3.3B$27.6B3.B2AB$28.BDBDB4.2A$
29.DBD$29.3D!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » March 13th, 2025, 7:13 am

G+loaf to LWSS+pi, discovered by mvr. If we could use the pi to restore the loaf, we would get a G-to-LWSS.

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x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
9bo4bo$8bobob2o$2o5bo2bo2b2o$o7b2o$2bob2o$b2obo$2bo3bo$bo2bob3o$b4o4bo
$6b3o$3b2obo$3bobo!
(Note: the spark of the LWSS interacts with the pi)
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » March 13th, 2025, 9:47 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
March 13th, 2025, 7:13 am
G+loaf to LWSS+pi, discovered by mvr. If we could use the pi to restore the loaf, we would get a G-to-LWSS.

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snip
(Note: the spark of the LWSS interacts with the pi)
In case someone makes some search on that and find this different position/orientation of Loaf (B+Loaf=P+G) :

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x = 19, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
4.2CBC$4.B3CB$2.4BC3B$2DCE7B$DE2.E3.4B$DCDE5.4B$2.E7.4B$11.4B$12.4B$
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » April 1st, 2025, 8:55 am

What is this active region called? In one generation it looks like a fourteener with an extra cell:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo$3bo$b4o$o$2o!
It emerges out of a collision between a glider and beehive. I'm pretty sure that there are other ways for it to form as well.

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bobo$2b2o$3bo2$b2o$o2bo$b2o!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by TigerCub414 » April 6th, 2025, 3:02 pm

Two questionably useful dependent Herschel conduits, one H to I and one H to R+G:

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x = 110, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
18.D$17.D.D$17.D.D$.2C15.3D11.2A70.2D$3C.2C25.A.A69.2D$.2C.3C.2C21.2A
71.D2.D$3C.2C2.2C25.2A35.2C34.2D$2C33.A.A33.3C.2C30.2D$37.A34.2C.3C.
2A$37.2A32.3C.2C2.2A$71.2C3$27.2A$27.A.A74.2A$29.A74.A$29.2A74.3A$
100.2A.A.A2.A$100.2A.2A2.2A$88.A.2A$86.3A.A9.2A.2A$85.A4.A.A8.A.A$85.
2A3.2A.A7.A.A$93.A8.A$93.2A!

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3aijkr5j/S2aek3-acy4iz6c
8b3o$7bo2bo$7bo2bo$7b3o4$28b3o$28bo2bo$28bo2bo$29b3o11$3o$o2bo$o2bo$b
3o4$22b3o$21bo2bo$21bo2bo$21b3o!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Anivec » April 24th, 2025, 12:45 pm

Here's a potentially useful G-to-X starter:

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x = 33, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$7b2o3bo$7bo2bo$8b4o2$10b2o$6b2obobo$6b2obo$9bo$9bobo$10b2o2$31b
o$29b3o$28bo$28b2o5$29b2o$29bobo$4b2o9bo15bo$4b2o10bo14b2o$14b3o3$15b
2o10b2o$14bo2bo8bobo$15bobo9bo$16bo4$3bob2o$b3ob2o13b2o$o19b2o$b3ob2o
6b2o$3bobo7b2o$3bobo$4bo!
EDIT:
Was not expecting this, partial G-to-H:

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x = 33, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
23b2o$22bobo$22bo$20b3o$19bo3b2o$19b4o2bo$23bobo$19b2ob2ob2o$19bo6bo$
21b2ob2o$22bobo$22bobo$23bo8$31bo$29b3o$28bo$28b2o5$29b2o$29bobo$4b2o
9bo15bo$4b2o10bo14b2o$14b3o3$15b2o10b2o$14bo2bo8bobo$15bobo9bo$16bo4$
3bob2o$b3ob2o13b2o$o19b2o$b3ob2o6b2o$3bobo7b2o$3bobo$4bo!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Anivec » April 30th, 2025, 3:44 pm

Currently useless G-to-Pi:

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x = 33, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
11b2o2b2ob2ob2o$12bo2bo3bobo$9b3o4b2o4bo$9bo2b4o2b3obo$10bobo2bobo2b2o
$9b2o5bobo$10bo6bo$10bobo$11b2o3$8b2o$8b2o6$31bo$29b3o$28bo$28b2o5$29b
2o$29bobo$4b2o9bo15bo$4b2o10bo14b2o$14b3o3$15b2o10b2o$14bo2bo8bobo$15b
obo9bo$16bo4$3bob2o$b3ob2o13b2o$o19b2o$b3ob2o6b2o$3bobo7b2o$3bobo$4bo
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » June 8th, 2025, 11:29 am

Some clean but non-connectable Pi to X conduits (P-to-C, P-to-R, P-to-Hprime+2G, P-to-LoM+G, P-to-B, P-to-G)

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x = 333, y = 154, rule = LifeHistory
314.2A$314.A.BA.2A$248.2A65.B3A.A$237.B2.2B6.A.A.2A.A60.3B.A.2A$236.
7B7.A.A.2A60.2AB2A.A$235.9B5.B2A64.A2B.B2.A$175.A57.3D12B2.2B62.3B.2A
.2A$99.A60.B13.A.A56.D2B2D13B59.B.5B2.A.A$97.3A58.5B11.A.A56.2D2BD14B
56.3B2D4B2.A.A$96.A61.8B7.2A.3A56.3D14B56.2B2D5B3.A$17.A78.2A60.9B7.B
4.A58.14B56.3B2D4B$12.B4.3A71.7B59.11B5.2AB3A58.15B55.5BD5B$11.3B6.A
70.5B61.11B.B3.2A.A60.14B56.11B$11.3B5.2A68.9B51.2D7.17B53.B8.16B55.
11B$10.5B4.5B65.9B50.2D6B3.14B4.B7.A.A40.2B7.18B54.10B$8.7B6.4B63.10B
12.2A37.BD6B.17B.B2A5.A.2A40.3B6.18B53.10B7.2A$5.21B61.9B14.A39.7B.
19B2A3.3A43.4B4.19B54.11B5.A2.2A$5.20B6.A53.13B9.BA.A40.25B.B3.A3.B4A
39.4B4.17B53.15B4.A.A.A$4.21B5.A.A52.14B8.B2A40.26B6.3A.A2.A40.4B2.
19B51.17B.B2A2B.A$4.22B4.A.A52.13B7.3B41.30B5.A3BA42.4B.19B51.19BA.BA
.A.A$2.2D22B3.2A.2A52.12B6.B2AB41.32B4.BAB2A42.24B50.20B2ABA.2A$2DBD
23B.AB5.A39.B3.2B5.16B.BABA41.37B2ABAB43.26B48.20BA.A$D19B3C5B2AB2A.
2A36.13B.4B3C11BAB42.12B3C22B3.B.A43.4B.B3C17B47.3B3C13BA2.A$3D19BC5B
.B2.A.A36.19B.BC12B4A37.16BC22B4.2A44.7BC17B.B2.2A40.6BC12B.B2A.2A$3.
17B3C3B.B4A2.A36.19B3C9B.2B4.A35.5B2D8B3C22B51.4B3C18B2A2.A39.5B3C12B
3.A.A$3.12B.8B3.BAB2.2A37.5BD25B3.2A.2A36.4BD2B2D31B51.19B.4B.A.A41.
17B5.A.A$5.7B5.B3.5B3.3A40.2B3D23B6.A.A38.4BD2BD30B51.19B4.BA2.A42.
19B4.A$6.3B15.2A5.A41.2BD24B6.A.A39.3B3D31B51.18B5.B3A43.12B5.2A$24.A
6.A.A41.25B7.A41.29B.7B50.17B4.A48.13B4.A$25.3A4.2A45.19B53.27B.7B51.
13B.4B2.4A46.12B5.3A$27.A53.16B58.22B3.4B55.10B4.2A5.A48.10B7.A$81.7B
.8B62.18B3.4B54.11B4.A5.A48.10B$82.6B.8B4.2A58.8B2.6B4.4B54.9B6.3A2.
2A47.10B$82.5B5.B.B5.A.A59.B.B2.B5.4B5.4B53.9B8.A52.8B$82.5B6.3B4.A
62.3B8.AB7.4B54.5B61.2AB.6B$83.3B6.B2A2B.3A61.B2AB7.A.A.A.2A3.4B53.7B
58.A.AB.5B$93.2A.BAB2.2A60.2A7.A.2A.2A.A4.4B57.2A58.A5.4B$96.B4AB.A
68.A13.4B56.A58.2A7.B$96.B.B.B3A67.2A14.4B56.3A$96.B4A87.4B57.A$92.2A
2.BAB2.5A83.4B$92.A2.A.A.2A4.A84.4B$93.3ABA.A2.A88.4B$98.A2.2A89.4B$
95.3A95.3BD$95.A98.3BD$195.3D62$115.4B$114.4B$90.2A21.4B$85.2A2.A.A
20.4B$85.A3.A21.4B$24.A61.3A.4A16.4B$22.3A63.A.A2.A6.A8.4B$14.2A5.A
62.3ABABA8.A.A6.4B$12.3A.A4.2A60.A2.AB2A9.BA2B4.4B$11.A4.A2.4B60.2A2.
5B8.2B4.4B$12.3A.A.2AB67.4B3.6B4.4B$14.A.A2BAB67.15B.4B$15.2B2AB9.A
58.14B.4B$15.4B8.3A57.19B$15.3B8.A60.19B$15.3B3.B4.2A60.18B$11.17B61.
17B$9.17B62.19B$8.18B61.21B$9.17B56.26B$11.16B52.29B$14.14B50.31B$13.
16B49.32B$12.18B48.32B$12.8B3C8B.2B45.11B3C17B.2B$11.11BC10B2A44.13BC
19B2A$9.11B3C8B.B2A45.10B3C17B.B2A$8.22B3.B45.32B.B$7.22B49.30B$5.26B
47.28B$4.23B2.2A48.27B$3.24B2.A50.26B$4.22B4.3A48.2B2.11B2.8B$3.16B2.
4B7.A53.11B3.7B$3.16B3.B.B2A61.B2.6B4.6B$4.13B7.BA.A64.B.B8.4B$5.10B
12.A65.3B8.AB$5.6B.3B12.2A63.B2AB7.A.A.A.2A$8.4B81.2A7.A.2A.2A.A$9.4B
89.A$10.4B87.2A$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B$15.B!
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Anivec » June 9th, 2025, 7:03 am

Tawal wrote:
June 8th, 2025, 11:29 am
Some clean but non-connectable Pi to X conduits (P-to-C, P-to-R, P-to-Hprime+2G, P-to-LoM+G, P-to-B, P-to-G)

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x = 333, y = 154, rule = LifeHistory
314.2A$314.A.BA.2A$248.2A65.B3A.A$237.B2.2B6.A.A.2A.A60.3B.A.2A$236.
7B7.A.A.2A60.2AB2A.A$235.9B5.B2A64.A2B.B2.A$175.A57.3D12B2.2B62.3B.2A
.2A$99.A60.B13.A.A56.D2B2D13B59.B.5B2.A.A$97.3A58.5B11.A.A56.2D2BD14B
56.3B2D4B2.A.A$96.A61.8B7.2A.3A56.3D14B56.2B2D5B3.A$17.A78.2A60.9B7.B
4.A58.14B56.3B2D4B$12.B4.3A71.7B59.11B5.2AB3A58.15B55.5BD5B$11.3B6.A
70.5B61.11B.B3.2A.A60.14B56.11B$11.3B5.2A68.9B51.2D7.17B53.B8.16B55.
11B$10.5B4.5B65.9B50.2D6B3.14B4.B7.A.A40.2B7.18B54.10B$8.7B6.4B63.10B
12.2A37.BD6B.17B.B2A5.A.2A40.3B6.18B53.10B7.2A$5.21B61.9B14.A39.7B.
19B2A3.3A43.4B4.19B54.11B5.A2.2A$5.20B6.A53.13B9.BA.A40.25B.B3.A3.B4A
39.4B4.17B53.15B4.A.A.A$4.21B5.A.A52.14B8.B2A40.26B6.3A.A2.A40.4B2.
19B51.17B.B2A2B.A$4.22B4.A.A52.13B7.3B41.30B5.A3BA42.4B.19B51.19BA.BA
.A.A$2.2D22B3.2A.2A52.12B6.B2AB41.32B4.BAB2A42.24B50.20B2ABA.2A$2DBD
23B.AB5.A39.B3.2B5.16B.BABA41.37B2ABAB43.26B48.20BA.A$D19B3C5B2AB2A.
2A36.13B.4B3C11BAB42.12B3C22B3.B.A43.4B.B3C17B47.3B3C13BA2.A$3D19BC5B
.B2.A.A36.19B.BC12B4A37.16BC22B4.2A44.7BC17B.B2.2A40.6BC12B.B2A.2A$3.
17B3C3B.B4A2.A36.19B3C9B.2B4.A35.5B2D8B3C22B51.4B3C18B2A2.A39.5B3C12B
3.A.A$3.12B.8B3.BAB2.2A37.5BD25B3.2A.2A36.4BD2B2D31B51.19B.4B.A.A41.
17B5.A.A$5.7B5.B3.5B3.3A40.2B3D23B6.A.A38.4BD2BD30B51.19B4.BA2.A42.
19B4.A$6.3B15.2A5.A41.2BD24B6.A.A39.3B3D31B51.18B5.B3A43.12B5.2A$24.A
6.A.A41.25B7.A41.29B.7B50.17B4.A48.13B4.A$25.3A4.2A45.19B53.27B.7B51.
13B.4B2.4A46.12B5.3A$27.A53.16B58.22B3.4B55.10B4.2A5.A48.10B7.A$81.7B
.8B62.18B3.4B54.11B4.A5.A48.10B$82.6B.8B4.2A58.8B2.6B4.4B54.9B6.3A2.
2A47.10B$82.5B5.B.B5.A.A59.B.B2.B5.4B5.4B53.9B8.A52.8B$82.5B6.3B4.A
62.3B8.AB7.4B54.5B61.2AB.6B$83.3B6.B2A2B.3A61.B2AB7.A.A.A.2A3.4B53.7B
58.A.AB.5B$93.2A.BAB2.2A60.2A7.A.2A.2A.A4.4B57.2A58.A5.4B$96.B4AB.A
68.A13.4B56.A58.2A7.B$96.B.B.B3A67.2A14.4B56.3A$96.B4A87.4B57.A$92.2A
2.BAB2.5A83.4B$92.A2.A.A.2A4.A84.4B$93.3ABA.A2.A88.4B$98.A2.2A89.4B$
95.3A95.3BD$95.A98.3BD$195.3D62$115.4B$114.4B$90.2A21.4B$85.2A2.A.A
20.4B$85.A3.A21.4B$24.A61.3A.4A16.4B$22.3A63.A.A2.A6.A8.4B$14.2A5.A
62.3ABABA8.A.A6.4B$12.3A.A4.2A60.A2.AB2A9.BA2B4.4B$11.A4.A2.4B60.2A2.
5B8.2B4.4B$12.3A.A.2AB67.4B3.6B4.4B$14.A.A2BAB67.15B.4B$15.2B2AB9.A
58.14B.4B$15.4B8.3A57.19B$15.3B8.A60.19B$15.3B3.B4.2A60.18B$11.17B61.
17B$9.17B62.19B$8.18B61.21B$9.17B56.26B$11.16B52.29B$14.14B50.31B$13.
16B49.32B$12.18B48.32B$12.8B3C8B.2B45.11B3C17B.2B$11.11BC10B2A44.13BC
19B2A$9.11B3C8B.B2A45.10B3C17B.B2A$8.22B3.B45.32B.B$7.22B49.30B$5.26B
47.28B$4.23B2.2A48.27B$3.24B2.A50.26B$4.22B4.3A48.2B2.11B2.8B$3.16B2.
4B7.A53.11B3.7B$3.16B3.B.B2A61.B2.6B4.6B$4.13B7.BA.A64.B.B8.4B$5.10B
12.A65.3B8.AB$5.6B.3B12.2A63.B2AB7.A.A.A.2A$8.4B81.2A7.A.2A.2A.A$9.4B
89.A$10.4B87.2A$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B$15.B!
Reduced the second conduit.

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x = 41, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
28.A$26.3A$25.A$25.2A$20.7B$20.5B$18.9B$18.9B$17.10B12.2A$16.9B14.A$14.
13B9.BA.A$14.14B8.B2A$14.13B7.3B$15.12B6.B2AB$4.B3.2B5.16B.BABA$.13B.
4B3C11BAB$19B.BC12B4A$19B3C9B.2B4.A$5BD25B3.2A.2A$.2B3D23B6.A.A$2.2BD
24B6.A.A$4.25B7.A$8.19B$10.16B$10.7B.8B$11.6B.7B$11.5B5.B.B$11.5B6.3B
$12.3B6.B2AB$22.2A!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Period1GliderGun » June 9th, 2025, 3:17 pm

Anivec wrote:
June 9th, 2025, 7:03 am
Reduced the second conduit.
Reduced the second conduit.

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x = 38, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
28.A$26.3A$25.A$25.2A$20.7B$20.5B$18.9B$18.9B$17.10B$16.9B$14.13B$14.
14B7.2A$14.13B7.A.A$15.12B7.A$4.B3.2B5.16B.B2A$.13B.4B3C11B2.2A$19B.B
C11B2A2.A$19B3C9B.B.A.2A$5BD25B3.A$.2B3D23B4.2A$2.2BD24B$4.25B$8.19B$
10.16B$10.7B.8B$11.6B.7B$11.5B5.B.B$11.5B6.3B$12.3B6.B2AB$22.2A!
Currently on another planet.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
[[ STEP 30 ]]

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Tawal » June 30th, 2025, 11:17 am

From G-to-X (January 2024), here is some non-connectable or dirty G-to-X :

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x = 204, y = 200, rule = LifeHistory
103.2A.2A$104.A.A$99.2A.A5.A.2A$98.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$97.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.
A$98.6AB.B6A$95.3A3.3B.B.3B3.3A$95.A3.3AB.3B.B3A3.A$96.3A.BA3BA3BAB.
3A$99.A3.BABAB3.A$98.A4.BABAB4.A90.A$98.A.A2.2BA2B2.A.A81.2A5.3A$99.A
.A.2B.2B.A.A81.B2AB3.A$.B79.B18.A2.5B2.A50.B24.B6.3B4.2A$3B77.3B20.2B
A2B5.A46.3B19.7B5.B2.5B$4B23.A52.4B19.BABAB4.A.A45.4B18.18B$.4B21.A.A
52.4B18.BABAB5.A47.4B17.17B2A$2.4B21.A54.4B16.3BAB55.4B15.9B2D7B2A$3.
4B17.3B56.4B15.6B55.4B13.9B2D7B.B$4.4B15.5B56.4B14.5B4.3B50.4B11.11BD
7B$5.4B14.6B56.4B14.6B.5B50.4B11.16B$6.4B11.8B8.A48.4B5.2A5.7B.5B51.
4B10.16B$7.4B9.11B4.3A49.4B5.A4.18B48.4B8.19B$8.4B6.2D13B.A53.4B4.A.A
B.17B3D47.4B7.19B$9.4B3.2DBD14B.A53.4B4.2AB.19BD48.4B7.18B$10.4B2.D
16B.2A54.4B5.19B3D49.4B6.18B$11.4B.3D13B59.4B4.19B53.4B5.17B$12.4B3.
11B62.4B3.15B58.4B4.18B$13.4B3.11B62.4B4.10B.B60.4B4.17B$14.4B2.10B
64.4B3.9B64.4B3.9B2.3B.B$15.15B65.15B65.15B2.3B$16.10B.2B67.10B.2B67.
13B4.B$17.9B71.9B71.10B$17.10B70.10B70.10B$18.10B70.10B70.10B$18.12B
9.2A57.12B9.2A57.12B9.2A$18.13B8.A58.13B8.A58.13B8.A$18.14B4.2A.A58.
14B4.2A.A58.14B4.2A.A$20.4B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A56.4B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A53.7B2A7B
3.A.A.2A.A$20.3BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A56.3BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A52.7BA2BA7B3.B2.A.
2A$19.4BA2BA7B2.3B.A58.4BA2BA7B2.3B.A54.8BA2BA7B2.3B.A$19.5B2A11B2A.A
58.5B2A11B2A.A54.3B.5B2A11B2A.A$20.17BA.A60.17BA.A53.2AB4.17BA.A$19.
17B.BA60.17B.BA53.A.AB3.17B.BA$19.17B63.17B56.A6.17B$18.16B64.16B57.
2A5.16B$18.16B64.16B64.16B$16.2A15B63.2A15B63.2A15B$11.2A2.A2BA4.10B
58.2A2.A2BA4.10B58.2A2.A2BA4.10B$8.A2.A3.BABA4.10B55.A2.A3.BABA4.10B
55.A2.A3.BABA4.10B$7.A.A.A.4BA6.5B2.B55.A.A.A.4BA6.5B2.B55.A.A.A.4BA
6.5B2.B$8.A2.A.2AB8.3B61.A2.A.2AB8.3B61.A2.A.2AB8.3B$11.A.BAB6.4B65.A
.BAB6.4B65.A.BAB6.4B$12.A4.A2.A.2A68.A4.A2.A.2A68.A4.A2.A.2A$13.8AB2A
69.8AB2A69.8AB2A$22.B79.B79.B$15.2A2.2A.2A71.2A2.2A.2A71.2A2.2A.2A$
15.2A3.A.A72.2A3.A.A72.2A3.A.A$20.A.A77.A.A77.A.A$21.A79.A79.A90$14.
4B$15.4B$16.4B6.2A90.2A$17.4B4.B2AB90.A7.6B$.B16.4B3.B.2B72.B17.A.AB
3.7B$3B16.4B2.3B72.3B17.2AB.9BD$4B16.10B8.A61.4B18.10BDBD$.4B16.7B3D
5.3A62.4B16.11BDBDB$2.4B15.10B4.A66.4B15.12BD2B$3.4B13.12B3.2A66.4B
13.17B$4.4B11.18B67.4B11.17B$5.4B11.15B70.4B11.7BD8B$6.4B10.16B70.4B
10.7BDBD6B$7.4B8.10B2D6B3.2A65.4B8.8B2D8B3.2A$8.4B7.9B2D7B.BA.AB65.4B
7.18B.BA.AB$9.4B7.10BD8B2A2B66.4B7.19B2A2B$10.4B6.21B.B2A65.4B6.21B.B
2A$11.4B5.18B4.BA.A65.4B5.18B4.BA.A$12.4B4.19B6.A66.4B4.19B6.A$13.4B
4.17B7.2A66.4B2.19B7.2A$14.4B3.9B2.3B.B77.16B2.3B.B$15.15B2.3B80.15B
2.3B$16.13B4.B82.13B4.B$17.10B88.12B$17.10B87.13B$18.10B85.4B.10B$18.
12B9.2A71.4B2.12B9.2A$18.13B8.A71.4B3.13B8.A$18.14B4.2A.A70.4B4.14B4.
2A.A$17.7B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A65.4B4.7B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A$16.7BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A
64.4B4.7BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A$15.8BA2BA7B2.3B.A66.4B4.8BA2BA7B2.3B.A$15.3B
.5B2A11B2A.A65.4B5.3B.5B2A11B2A.A$13.2AB4.17BA.A65.4B4.2AB4.17BA.A$
12.A.AB3.17B.BA65.4B4.A.AB3.17B.BA$12.A6.17B67.4B5.A6.17B$11.2A5.16B
68.4B5.2A5.16B$18.16B84.16B$16.2A15B83.2A15B$11.2A2.A2BA4.10B78.2A2.A
2BA4.10B$8.A2.A3.BABA4.10B75.A2.A3.BABA4.10B$7.A.A.A.4BA6.5B2.B75.A.A
.A.4BA6.5B2.B$8.A2.A.2AB8.3B81.A2.A.2AB8.3B$11.A.BAB6.4B85.A.BAB6.4B$
12.A4.A2.A.2A88.A4.A2.A.2A$13.8AB2A89.8AB2A$22.B99.B$15.2A2.2A.2A91.
2A2.2A.2A$15.2A3.A.A92.2A3.A.A$20.A.A97.A.A$21.A99.A!
Edit: Removed useless Eater1


Edit: Finally, I merged the double post, as it's the same G-to-X used.

I known double post, but I think this discussion have to be continued here :roll:
Jormungant wrote:
June 30th, 2025, 12:10 pm
Tawal wrote:
June 30th, 2025, 11:00 am

May be there's other possibilities that I didn't find :roll:
Yes... possibilities to investigate includes replacing eaters with blocks...

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x = 151, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
12$29.4B$14.2A12.4B$13.B2AB10.4B$14.3B9.4B84.2A$13.B.B7.B.4B71.2A10.
2B2AB$13.5B3.7B73.A10.4B$13.B2A4B.6B74.A.AB6.7B$12.2B2A6B3C2B75.2AB.
3B.8B$12.12BC2B77.14B$11.12B3CB77.14B$11.16B78.13B$13.14B77.14B.2B$
14.13B3.B71.18B2A$15.11B4.B69.10B3D5B.B2A$15.8B7.2A68.2BC8BD6B2.B$15.
9B6.A68.3BCBC6B3D3B19.A$16.9B2.BA.A69.2B3C13B17.A.A$17.9B.B2AB3DB64.
5BC13B18.A$16.12B2.2BD2B63.10B.9B$13.B.13B2.2B3D22.A39.4B8.9B.BA10.A
2.5A$12.2A15B.5B21.A.A38.3B8.11BA.A7.3A2.A4.A$12.2A21B22.A37.4B10.2B.
8BA7.A7.BAB.A$13.22B60.2A11.2B3.5B.B8.2A6.B2A.A$13.22B17.A2.5A36.A11.
B5.3B9.4B4.A4B.A.2A$15.2B.9B3D5B15.3A2.A4.A32.3A12.10B7.3B5.ABAB3.A.
2A$13.4B3.B2.6B2D5B13.A7.BAB.A31.A15.B2C8B4.4B5.A2BA2.2A$13.2A9.4B2D
2B.6B.B8.2A6.B2A.A45.3B2C3B.11B4.3B2A4.A$14.A9.7B3.4B9.4B4.A4B.A.2A
40.B.8B.12B.5B6.A.A$11.3A10.15B7.3B5.ABAB3.A.2A39.11B.18B5.2A.3A$11.A
18.B2C8B4.4B5.A2BA2.2A33.2A6.31B6.B4.A$28.3B2C3B.11B4.3B2A4.A34.A5.
32B4.B2AB3A$26.B.8B.12B.5B6.A.A32.A.AB.24B2A9B2.B2A.A$25.11B.18B5.2A.
3A31.2AB.23BA2BA11B$16.2A6.31B6.B4.A32.25BA2BA11B$17.A5.32B4.B2AB3A
34.25B2A11B2.B$17.A.AB.24B2A9B2.B2A.A36.18B2.17B$18.2AB.23BA2BA11B40.
18B3.16B$20.25BA2BA11B41.16B4.15B$21.25B2A11B2.B41.12B7.14B$21.18B2.
17B45.12B8.14B$21.18B3.16B44.15B7.12B$22.16B4.15B42.B.17B7.8B$24.12B
7.14B41.2A17B10.4B$24.12B8.14B40.2AB.13B12.4B$23.15B7.12B42.B.5B2.8B
7.2A.3B$20.B.17B7.8B47.4B3.4B.2B8.A.2B2AB$19.2A17B10.4B50.BA20.A.BA.A
$19.2AB.13B12.4B45.2A.A.A.A16.3A4.A$20.B.5B2.8B7.2A.3B47.A.2A.2A.A15.
A2.4A$22.4B3.4B.2B8.A.2B2AB54.A18.A$23.BA20.A.BA.A54.2A18.A$18.2A.A.A
.A16.3A4.A74.2A$18.A.2A.2A.A15.A2.4A$26.A18.A$26.2A18.A$45.2A!

But I was not lucky in my hunt
Thanks for this kind of trick :)

Others possibilities to investigate (how to replace red Eater1 or connect a H-to-X ?) :

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x = 165, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
10.C$11.C$9.3C2$41.2A$40.A.A$8.2A30.A.A.A$7.B2AB6.4B5.2A9.2A.A2.A.A$
8.3B4.7B3.B2AB7.A2.A.A.A2.A95.A$9.B4.9B3.3B6.A.A2.BA.AB2A72.C22.3A$7.
17B3.B.B6.A3.2ABA76.C24.A14.2A$5.26B9.3BA.2A71.3C23.2A9.2A3.A$4.27B.
9B.BABA2.A73.B21.3B7.B2AB3.A$3.27B.B2A4B2A2B.BA2.2A72.3B22.4B5.2B3.2A
$2.29BA2BAB.A2BA2B78.4B19.7B3.2B.2B$.4B3.24B2A4B2A2B.BA2.2A73.4B17.8B
2.7B2A$4B7.16B2.12B.BABA2.A74.4B15.17BA.A$3B9.16B.3B8.3BA.2A4.A62.2A
8.4B6.4B3.18B.A$2B10.4B.12B7.A3.2ABA7.3A60.A2.A7.4B4.4B3.18B3.3A$B10.
4B.14B5.A.A2.BA.AB2A7.A14.2A44.3A8.4B2.4B5.16B6.A$10.4B2.15B5.A2.A.A.
A2.A6.2A9.2A3.A37.2A18.8B4.18B$9.4B3.16B5.2A.A2.A.A7.3B7.B2AB3.A36.A.
A5.3A10.6B.3B.20B$8.4B5.16B7.A.A.E10.4B5.2B3.2A31.A6.A4.A2.AB4.13BD
22B$7.4B4.4B.4B3D2B.4B6.A.A4.D5.7B3.2B.2B34.3A4.2A3.2A2B4.13B2D22B$6.
4B5.2A3.5BD3B2.4B6.AE2.3D4.8B2.7B2A34.A4.B4.B.3B2.12B2D23B$5.4B7.A4.
2B3D2B4.4B8.D6.17BA.A33.2A4.2B2.7B.13BD22B$4.4B5.3A5.7B5.4B7.2D4.18B.
A34.10B.21BD22B$3.4B6.A8.7B5.4B4.4B3.18B3.3A33.33B3.17B$2.4B16.8B5.4B
.4B6.16B6.A32.24B2.8B3.9B2.3B.B$.4B18.8B5.9B3.18B39.22B3.4B2.15B2.3B$
4B19.8B6.31B38.20B3.4B4.13B4.B$22.6B4.13BD22B39.20B.4B6.10B$22.7B2.
13B2D22B39.24B7.10B$23.6B2.12B2D23B42.20B9.10B$23.7B.13B2D21B42.20B
10.12B9.2A$22.46B41.19B11.13B8.A$22.26B3.17B40.19B12.14B4.2A.A$21.17B
2.8B3.9B2.3B.B37.17B.4B12.7B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A$17.B3.15B3.21B2.3B38.2A15B
.4B12.7BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A$16.2AB.15B5.5B.13B4.B39.2A19B12.8BA2BA7B2.3B.
A$16.2A18B6.2B3.10B47.19B13.3B.5B2A11B2A.A$17.B.3B2A12B7.2A2.10B50.
15B12.2AB4.17BA.A$20.2B2A11B9.A3.10B50.13B12.A.AB3.17B.BA$21.2B2.10B
8.A4.12B9.2A38.11B13.A6.17B$20.2B3.6B.B10.2A3.13B8.A38.11B13.2A5.16B$
19.B2AB2.4B19.14B4.2A.A38.10B21.16B$20.2A3.2B2AB17.7B2A7B3.A.A.2A.A
34.9B20.2A15B$27.2A17.7BA2BA7B3.B2.A.2A33.10B2.B12.2A2.A2BA4.10B$45.
8BA2BA7B2.3B.A34.B.10B.B2A8.A2.A3.BABA4.10B$45.3B.5B2A11B2A.A33.2A13B
2A7.A.A.A.4BA6.5B2.B$43.2AB4.17BA.A34.2A11B.2B9.A2.A.2AB8.3B$42.A.AB
3.17B.BA36.12B15.A.BAB6.4B$42.A6.17B39.3B.9B15.A4.A2.A.2A$41.2A5.16B
44.11B15.8AB2A$48.16B44.12B23.B$46.2A15B46.7B.4B15.2A2.2A.2A$41.2A2.A
2BA4.10B47.7B.4B14.2A3.A.A$38.A2.A3.BABA4.10B45.B.14B17.A.A$37.A.A.A.
4BA6.5B2.B45.2A3B2A11BD16.A$38.A2.A.2AB8.3B50.2AB.B2A9B3DB$41.A.BAB6.
4B52.B2.12BDBD$42.A4.A2.A.2A58.11BD$43.8AB2A59.B2.2B2.2B$52.B$45.2A2.
2A.2A$45.2A3.A.A$50.A.A$51.A!
Oops, the leftmost one is a BIG mistake :oops:
Last edited by Tawal on June 30th, 2025, 1:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Anivec » July 5th, 2025, 9:36 am

Is there a way to move the block into its original position using the FNG from the B-heptomino?

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x = 35, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$19.2A21$9.C$9.C.C$9.3C$11.C2$29.2A.2A$23.2A5.A.A$22.A2.A3.A4.A$
2.2A18.A.A4.A.4A$3.A14.2A3.A4.2A.A$3A14.A.A7.A3.A.2A$A16.A10.4A2.A$16.
2A14.2A$25.2A3.2A$24.A.A4.A$24.A6.A.A$23.2A7.2A!

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by Jormungant » July 10th, 2025, 10:55 am

Probably hopeless, but something to look into I guess:

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x = 54, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
5$36.A.A$31.2A2.A.2A2.A$19.4B8.A3.A3.3A$18.5B3.2A4.3A.2A$18.6B.B2AB5.
A.A.2A$18.6B.4B5.2BA.A.A$18.5B3.2B2.4B.BA2B.A$18.2BC14B2A2B2A.2A$18.
2B2C13B5.A.A$18.B2C14B3.A.A.A$18.16B3.A.A.A$18.13B7.C2.C.C$19.12B10.
2C.C$18.14B12.C$19.9BD3B12.2C$20.8BD2B$21.7BDB$19.9B.2B$18.13B$18.12B
$18.8B$18.9B.B$18.4BDBD9B$18.4BD.D10BD$17.EC3B3D8B3DB$17.EC14BDBD$18.
15BD$16.9B.2B2.2B14.2C$16.EC7B21.2C$17.E3.B2CB21.2C$14.3E5.2E$14.E!

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Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Post by Anivec » July 12th, 2025, 8:46 pm

Pi-to-G:

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x = 27, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$13.4B$13.3B10.A$13.3B8.3A$12.6B.B3.A$11.
11B.2A$10.15B$5.2B2.14B$2A2.A2BA5B3C8B$A2.B4A5BCBC8B$.3AB2.6BCBC7B$5.
3A14B$.4A3.A3.7B.B2A$.A3.2A2.A3.5B2.BA.A$3.A2.4A3.5B5.A$2.3A10.2B6.2A
$5.3A$4.A2.A$5.2A!
EDIT by dvgrn: Moved this one over here to the thread for speculative conduits using common signals, until someone can come up with a plausible pi-producing conduit that can connect to a location as thoroughly surrounded by catalysts as this one. Seems like the only plausible input direction would be from the north, producing a backwards pi -- but I don't think we see anything like that very often, and the hypothetical conduit would have to throw its backward pi quite a distance across the output glider lane without using any catalysts in that key region.

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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » July 13th, 2025, 12:09 pm

Jormungant wrote:
July 10th, 2025, 10:55 am
Probably hopeless, but something to look into I guess:

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x = 54, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
5$36.A.A$31.2A2.A.2A2.A$19.4B8.A3.A3.3A$18.5B3.2A4.3A.2A$18.6B.B2AB5.
A.A.2A$18.6B.4B5.2BA.A.A$18.5B3.2B2.4B.BA2B.A$18.2BC14B2A2B2A.2A$18.
2B2C13B5.A.A$18.B2C14B3.A.A.A$18.16B3.A.A.A$18.13B7.C2.C.C$19.12B10.
2C.C$18.14B12.C$19.9BD3B12.2C$20.8BD2B$21.7BDB$19.9B.2B$18.13B$18.12B
$18.8B$18.9B.B$18.4BDBD9B$18.4BD.D10BD$17.EC3B3D8B3DB$17.EC14BDBD$18.
15BD$16.9B.2B2.2B14.2C$16.EC7B21.2C$17.E3.B2CB21.2C$14.3E5.2E$14.E!
Catalyst reduced:

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x = 31, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
22.A.A$17.2A2.A.2A2.A$5.4B8.A3.A3.3A$4.5B3.2A4.3A.2A$4.6B.B2AB5.A.A.2A
$4.6B.4B5.2BA.A.A$4.5B3.2B2.4B.BA2B.A2.A$4.2BC14B2A2B2A.A.A$4.2B2C13B
5.A2.A$4.B2C14B3.A.A$4.16B4.2A$4.13B$5.12B$4.14B$5.9BD3B$6.8BD2B$7.7B
DB$5.9B.2B$4.13B$4.12B$4.8B$4.9B.B$4.4BDBD9B$4.4BD.D10BD$3.EC3B3D8B3D
B$3.EC14BDBD$4.15BD$2.9B.2B2.2B$2.EC7B$3.E3.B2CB$3E5.2E$E!
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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