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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » May 27th, 2020, 4:36 am

Ok, time's up! here is the solution (that was hiding in plain sight... R-to-P)

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x = 151, y = 191, rule = LifeHistory
16$50.2A$49.B2A2B3.2A$50.4B2.B2AB$46.B.6B3.2B$44.10B2.2B$26.2A8.2A6.
11B2A2B$25.B2AB8.A5.12B2A3B.B$26.2B9.A.AB2.18B2A$21.B3.2B11.2AB3.15B.
B2A$20.2AB.4B12.18B3.B$20.2A8B10.18B$21.B.B2A6B2.2B2.19B$24.2A31B$24.
24B.7B$20.28B2.6B$20.29B.7B$19.2A29B.6B$19.2A14B.4B7.9B6.A$20.B.11B2.
4B9.8B4.3A$22.10B2.4B11.5BA2B2.A$23.14B13.3BABAB2.2A$22.14B15.4BA5B$
23.13B15.2A3BA2B$23.13B15.2A2BA3B$25.2B.8B15.4BA3B.2B$28.A7B15.13B$
28.2BA5B15.2A2B2A7B$26.A2BA6B15.6A8B$26.AB2.7B13.3BA10B$27.A2.8B11.4B
2.10B$24.3A4.8B9.4B2.11B.B$24.A6.9B7.4B.14B2A$30.6B.29B2A$30.7B.29B$
31.6B2.28B$31.7B.24B$30.31B2A$30.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$29.18B10.8B2A$25.B
3.19B11.4B.B2A$24.2AB.15B2.4B11.2B3.B$24.2A18B2.4B9.2B$25.B.3B2A12B3.
4B7.B2AB$28.2B2A11B5.4B7.2A$29.2B2.10B6.4B45.A11.2AB$28.2B3.6B.B9.3BD
44.3A7.BA2BA2B$27.B2AB2.4B14.3BD5.B40.A5.3B2A3B$28.2A3.2B2AB14.D2BD.B
.3B38.2A3.12B$35.2A16.D2BD5B42.14B$54.D2BD4B42.13B$55.DBDB43.15B6.A$
56.2D2B43.15B3.3A5.2A$57.B46.14B2.A8.A$85.A19.13B2.A.2A2.BA.A$85.3A
12.B.3B.8B3DB3.AB.A.B2A$63.B24.A10.16BD2B4.B2A2B$63.2B10.A11.2A3.B5.
2B2A11B3D2B5.5B$63.3B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.B.6B2.A$63.4B5.A16.8B.13B
DBD4B.9B.A.A$64.4B4.2A15.22BD16B2.A$57.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.20B$58.A7.6B
14.17B8.17B$58.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B10.16B$59.A2.A4.19BD15B10.16B$60.
2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B12.15B$61.14B2A9B3D13B11.14B4.2A$62.13B2A11BD14B11.
13B4.2A$63.29B2.8B13.3B.9B$63.17B.B.2B11.6B11.4B3.9B$64.15B4.3B10.5B
12.2A4.10B4.A$64.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B13.A2.13B2.A.A$65.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B11.
3A3.13B3.A$67.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B9.A5.12B5.3A$66.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A15.
11B8.A$66.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A16.10B$66.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A13.11B$66.B
.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A14.14B$67.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A28.15B.B$66.B2AB9.A.A38.
5B2A7B2A$67.2A11.A39.4BA2BA6B2A$120.5B2A5B.2B$120.12B$120.11B$120.11B
$121.9B$120.8B$120.2B2D2B$93.2A26.D2BDB$94.A14.2A10.B2DB$94.A.AB10.B
2AB8.6B$95.2AB.2B7.4B6.4B$97.5B6.4B5.6B$91.2A4.7B4.5B4.8B10.2C$91.A5.
7B3.7B.12B8.C$92.3A2.7B.17B.4B6.C.C$94.A24BD11B2.2C$96.23B2D9B3D$97.
21B2D12BD$97.33B3D$88.2A3.2A.B.19B.12B$88.A.A.A.A23B.B2.7B$90.A.A.B.
21B4.3B2.B.2B$89.2A.2A22B4.A2.AB.B2AB$93.B.21B4.4A3.2A$95.19B$96.13B
2.2B7.2A$97.11B12.2A$94.14B$93.15B$84.2A7.14B$83.A2.A2.2A2.12B$84.2A
2.A.A2.B3D4B.2B$86.2A.B3.2BD4B$86.A2.2B2.2B3D2B$83.2A.A.BA2B.6B$83.A.
2A.A.A8B$87.A.A.8B$84.2A2.A4.5B$82.3A.2A4.6B$81.A4.B6.6B$82.3AB2AB3.
7B$84.A.2AB.8B$88.10B$88.6B2A3B$88.6B2A2B5.2A$88.10B5.A$87.11B2.BA.A$
87.12B.B2A$86.15B11.2A$85.16B11.2A$82.2B.16B$81.2A18B$81.2AB.17B7.D5.
2A$82.B.4B.8B2.4B12.2A$89.7B4.4B$90.6B5.4B7.2A$92.4B6.4B6.2A$94.3BA5.
2B2D$95.BA.A5.BD.D$96.A.A6.D$97.A$98.3A13.A.A$100.A13.2A$115.A2$114.A
$113.2A17.A$113.A.A$129.2A$129.A.A$116.4A11.A$115.3A2.A10.2A$115.A3.A
3.2A$116.A2.A3.2A$116.3A$120.2A$120.2A2$132.A$123.2A7.A$123.2A!
It is obviously worse than what I had before in terms of recovery time, but it is a direct reaction without a need to negate glider streams. it would need a better R inserter... I do not really care about the recovery time of the hive inserter.

(addendum: still would be nice to have an alternate supression mecanism, because:

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x = 88, y = 71, rule = LifeHistory
9$6.2B$5.4B$6.BABA43.4B9.C$7.B2A44.4B6.3C$8.A46.4B4.C$56.4B3.2C$57.3B
3D$58.2BDBD$59.BDBDB$56.2B.5B$55.2A8B$55.2A.7B$56.10B$58.8B3.B.2B$55.
CB.9B2.2BCB$54.C.C11B.BCBC$54.2C.11B.BCBC$57.14BCB$25.B22.2A8.4BD7B2.
B$24.3B22.A8.3B3D5B$24.2BAB21.A.AB5.3BD7B$25.2B2A10.A10.2AB.3B.10B$
26.2A2B7.3A12.17B$27.4B5.A15.17B$28.4B4.2A15.16B$21.2A6.9B14.19B$22.A
7.6B14.21B$22.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.23B2A$23.A2.A4.19BD17B.B2A$24.2AB3.20B
DBD4B.9B3.B$25.14B2A9B3D4B2.6B$26.13B2A11BD4B2.6B.2B$27.29B4.7B2A$27.
17B.B.2B10.6B.B2A$28.15B4.3B10.6B.B$28.15B17.6B$29.13B5.A2.B2A7.5B$
31.13B2.A.AB2.A7.4B$30.8B4.2A.A.A3.A6.5B$30.6B6.2ABA4.A7.2A$30.5B8.B
2.5A.A6.A$30.B.B8.A.2A.A4.A.A2.3A$31.3B7.2A2.A2.2A.A.A2.A$30.B2AB10.A
4.A.2A$31.2A12.4A$47.A$49.A$48.2A!
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(addendum^2: well! that H-to-R fixed my problem in a strange way! instead of releasing a glider, just allow the next glider from the h-to-R to go through! here we go, syringe friendly universal regulator!

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x = 167, y = 195, rule = LifeHistory
9$40.2A$39.B2A2B3.2A$40.4B2.B2AB$36.B.6B3.2B$34.10B2.2B$16.2A8.2A6.
11B2A2B$15.B2AB8.A5.12B2A3B.B$16.2B9.A.AB2.18B2A$11.B3.2B11.2AB3.15B.
B2A$10.2AB.4B12.18B3.B$10.2A8B10.18B$11.B.B2A6B2.2B2.19B$14.2A31B$14.
24B.7B$10.28B2.6B$10.29B.7B$9.2A29B.6B$9.2A14B.4B7.9B6.A$10.B.11B2.4B
9.8B4.3A$12.10B2.4B11.5BA2B2.A$13.14B13.3BABAB2.2A$12.14B15.4BA5B$13.
13B15.2A3BA2B$13.13B15.2A2BA3B$15.2B.8B15.4BA3B.2B$18.A7B15.13B$18.2B
A5B15.2A2B2A7B$16.A2BA6B15.6A8B$16.AB2.7B13.3BA10B$17.A2.8B11.4B2.10B
$14.3A4.8B9.4B2.11B.B$14.A6.9B7.4B.14B2A$20.6B.29B2A$20.7B.29B$21.6B
2.28B$21.7B.24B$20.31B2A$20.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$19.18B10.8B2A$15.B3.19B
11.4B.B2A$14.2AB.15B2.4B11.2B3.B$14.2A18B2.4B9.2B$15.B.3B2A12B3.4B7.B
2AB$18.2B2A11B5.4B7.2A$19.2B2.10B6.4B45.A11.2AB$18.2B3.6B.B9.3BD44.3A
7.BA2BA2B$17.B2AB2.4B14.3BD5.B40.A5.3B2A3B$18.2A3.2B2AB14.D2BD.B.3B
38.2A3.12B$25.2A16.D2BD5B42.14B$44.D2BD4B42.13B$45.DBDB43.15B6.A$46.
2D2B43.15B3.3A5.2A$47.B46.14B2.A8.A$75.A19.13B2.A.2A2.BA.A$75.3A12.B.
3B.8B3DB3.AB.A.B2A$53.B24.A10.16BD2B4.B2A2B$53.2B10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A
11B3D2B5.5B$53.3B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.B.6B2.A$53.4B5.A16.8B.13BDBD
4B.9B.A.A$54.4B4.2A15.22BD16B2.A$47.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.20B$48.A7.6B14.
17B8.17B$48.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B10.16B$49.A2.A4.19BD15B10.16B$50.2AB
3.20BDBD4B.7B12.15B$51.14B2A9B3D13B11.14B4.2A$52.13B2A11BD14B11.13B4.
2A$53.29B2.8B13.3B.9B$53.17B.B.2B11.6B11.4B3.9B$54.15B4.3B10.5B12.2A
4.10B4.A$54.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B13.A2.13B2.A.A$55.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B11.3A3.
13B3.A$57.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B9.A5.12B5.3A$56.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A15.11B8.A
$56.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A16.10B$56.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A13.11B$56.B.B9.2A
.2A2.A2.A.A12.A14.14B$57.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A28.15B.B$56.B2AB9.A.A38.5B2A7B
2A$57.2A11.A39.4BA2BA6B2A$110.5B2A5B.2B$110.12B$110.11B$110.11B$111.
9B$110.8B$110.2B2C2B$100.2A9.C2BCB$99.B2A2B7.B2CB$100.4B6.6B$95.2A4.
6B.4B$94.B2AB2.14B$95.3B.16B10.2C$93.2B.B2.18B8.C$92.27B4.C.C$91.18BD
11B2.2C$90.19B2D9B3D$90.18B2D12BD$90.30B2CD$88.2AB4.B.23B2C2B$87.A.AB
8.20B2.4B$87.A12.7B4.3B$86.2A9.11B5.CB$96.12B4.C.C$96.12B4.2C$86.2A8.
11B$85.A2.A2.2A3.B3D4B.4B$85.3A2.A.A3.2BD4B4.2A$88.2A2.B3.2B3D2B4.A$
81.2A2.2A.A2.B2.B.6B6.3A$81.A2.A.A.A2.A2.8B8.A$83.2A3.A.A.A.8B$84.A2.
2A2.A4.5B$84.A.A2.2A4.6B$85.A.A.B6.6B$87.AB2AB3.7B$86.A2.2AB.8B$86.2A
3.10B$91.6B2A3B$91.6B2A2B5.2A$91.10B5.A$90.11B2.BA.A$90.12B.B2A$89.
15B$88.16B$85.2B.16B$84.2A18B$84.2AB.17B$85.B.4B.8B2.4B$92.7B4.4B15.
2A6.A11.2A$93.6B5.3BA13.A2.A4.A.A10.2A$95.4B6.B2AB8.2A2.3A.A3.A.A$97.
3BA5.ABAB7.A6.A.A.2A.2A$98.BA.A5.4B4.A.A3.2A3.A.A$99.A.A6.2B5.2A4.A.
4A2.A.2A$100.A22.A3.A.A.2A$101.3A18.A3.A.A$103.A17.A3.A.A$106.A14.2A
3.A$105.A.A$106.A$127.2A$123.2A.3A5.2A$122.3A.2A6.2A$123.2A.3A12.A7.
2A$126.2A12.2A6.A2.A$105.2A33.A.A6.2A.A$105.2A45.A$152.2A$137.2A$138.
A19.2A$105.2A9.A18.3A20.A$105.2A10.2A4.2A10.A24.A$116.2A.D3.A.A14.2A
14.5A$117.D.D5.A15.A13.A$118.2D5.2A14.A.A12.3A$142.2A15.A$156.4A$103.
2A46.2A3.A3.2A$103.A2.A.2A41.2A4.3A2.A$105.2A.A.A.A24.A21.A.2A$106.A.
A.2A.A21.3A21.A$106.A2.A3.A20.A23.2A$107.A.A3.2A19.2A$108.A$150.2A$
138.2A10.A$137.A.A11.3A$139.A13.A2$124.2A$123.A.A5.2A$123.A7.2A$122.
2A2$136.A$132.2A.A.A$131.A.A.A.A$128.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$128.4A.2A2.A2.A$
132.A4.2A$130.A.A$130.2A!
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by dvgrn » May 27th, 2020, 6:55 am

Jormungant wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2020, 4:36 am
(addendum^2: well! that H-to-R fixed my problem in a strange way! instead of releasing a glider, just allow the next glider from the h-to-R to go through! here we go, syringe friendly universal regulator!
Interesting! I went looking for a faster beehive factory that would work here, but didn't see one offhand. Must be out there somewhere in the Space of the Possible.
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by praosylen » January 1st, 2021, 4:17 pm

Jormungant wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2020, 4:25 am
 With some welding magic, got to shrink the bounding box by 1, now has a 5-function still life ^^'

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rle
Apologies if this is a necropost, but I'm shocked nobody ever looked into reducing that monstrous weld at least somewhat:

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x = 21, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A3.A$.2A6.A3.A.A$.A3.2A3.A3.A.A.2A$2.4A5.A4.A.2A$A.A4.A.A.5A$2A3.3A
.2A5.3A.A$4.A3.A3.A2.A3.2A$4.2A2.A.2A.A2.2A$9.A.A.2A.A$16.A$12.2A.A$13.
A.2A$13.A.A$11.3A2.A$10.A3.2A$10.4A$13.A$10.3A$9.A$10.5A$12.A2.A$14.2A
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » January 1st, 2021, 4:46 pm

Well, I got to have my 5-function still life, if one manages to split it in 2 I will be very sad. (bit surprising the weld could work in the first place). In any case, I am convinced that a smaller universal regulator exists, so optimizing this solution is not very critical. The issue is that one needs an interaction of a spark and a still life that creates a glider instead of preventing a glider to be produced. I did find just a solution but that maimed the recovery time in the >180 ticks.
Jormungant wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2020, 4:36 am

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x = 151, y = 191, rule = LifeHistory
16$50.2A$49.B2A2B3.2A$50.4B2.B2AB$46.B.6B3.2B$44.10B2.2B$26.2A8.2A6.
11B2A2B$25.B2AB8.A5.12B2A3B.B$26.2B9.A.AB2.18B2A$21.B3.2B11.2AB3.15B.
B2A$20.2AB.4B12.18B3.B$20.2A8B10.18B$21.B.B2A6B2.2B2.19B$24.2A31B$24.
24B.7B$20.28B2.6B$20.29B.7B$19.2A29B.6B$19.2A14B.4B7.9B6.A$20.B.11B2.
4B9.8B4.3A$22.10B2.4B11.5BA2B2.A$23.14B13.3BABAB2.2A$22.14B15.4BA5B$
23.13B15.2A3BA2B$23.13B15.2A2BA3B$25.2B.8B15.4BA3B.2B$28.A7B15.13B$
28.2BA5B15.2A2B2A7B$26.A2BA6B15.6A8B$26.AB2.7B13.3BA10B$27.A2.8B11.4B
2.10B$24.3A4.8B9.4B2.11B.B$24.A6.9B7.4B.14B2A$30.6B.29B2A$30.7B.29B$
31.6B2.28B$31.7B.24B$30.31B2A$30.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$29.18B10.8B2A$25.B
3.19B11.4B.B2A$24.2AB.15B2.4B11.2B3.B$24.2A18B2.4B9.2B$25.B.3B2A12B3.
4B7.B2AB$28.2B2A11B5.4B7.2A$29.2B2.10B6.4B45.A11.2AB$28.2B3.6B.B9.3BD
44.3A7.BA2BA2B$27.B2AB2.4B14.3BD5.B40.A5.3B2A3B$28.2A3.2B2AB14.D2BD.B
.3B38.2A3.12B$35.2A16.D2BD5B42.14B$54.D2BD4B42.13B$55.DBDB43.15B6.A$
56.2D2B43.15B3.3A5.2A$57.B46.14B2.A8.A$85.A19.13B2.A.2A2.BA.A$85.3A
12.B.3B.8B3DB3.AB.A.B2A$63.B24.A10.16BD2B4.B2A2B$63.2B10.A11.2A3.B5.
2B2A11B3D2B5.5B$63.3B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.B.6B2.A$63.4B5.A16.8B.13B
DBD4B.9B.A.A$64.4B4.2A15.22BD16B2.A$57.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.20B$58.A7.6B
14.17B8.17B$58.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B10.16B$59.A2.A4.19BD15B10.16B$60.
2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B12.15B$61.14B2A9B3D13B11.14B4.2A$62.13B2A11BD14B11.
13B4.2A$63.29B2.8B13.3B.9B$63.17B.B.2B11.6B11.4B3.9B$64.15B4.3B10.5B
12.2A4.10B4.A$64.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B13.A2.13B2.A.A$65.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B11.
3A3.13B3.A$67.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B9.A5.12B5.3A$66.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A15.
11B8.A$66.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A16.10B$66.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A13.11B$66.B
.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A14.14B$67.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A28.15B.B$66.B2AB9.A.A38.
5B2A7B2A$67.2A11.A39.4BA2BA6B2A$120.5B2A5B.2B$120.12B$120.11B$120.11B
$121.9B$120.8B$120.2B2D2B$93.2A26.D2BDB$94.A14.2A10.B2DB$94.A.AB10.B
2AB8.6B$95.2AB.2B7.4B6.4B$97.5B6.4B5.6B$91.2A4.7B4.5B4.8B10.2C$91.A5.
7B3.7B.12B8.C$92.3A2.7B.17B.4B6.C.C$94.A24BD11B2.2C$96.23B2D9B3D$97.
21B2D12BD$97.33B3D$88.2A3.2A.B.19B.12B$88.A.A.A.A23B.B2.7B$90.A.A.B.
21B4.3B2.B.2B$89.2A.2A22B4.A2.AB.B2AB$93.B.21B4.4A3.2A$95.19B$96.13B
2.2B7.2A$97.11B12.2A$94.14B$93.15B$84.2A7.14B$83.A2.A2.2A2.12B$84.2A
2.A.A2.B3D4B.2B$86.2A.B3.2BD4B$86.A2.2B2.2B3D2B$83.2A.A.BA2B.6B$83.A.
2A.A.A8B$87.A.A.8B$84.2A2.A4.5B$82.3A.2A4.6B$81.A4.B6.6B$82.3AB2AB3.
7B$84.A.2AB.8B$88.10B$88.6B2A3B$88.6B2A2B5.2A$88.10B5.A$87.11B2.BA.A$
87.12B.B2A$86.15B11.2A$85.16B11.2A$82.2B.16B$81.2A18B$81.2AB.17B7.D5.
2A$82.B.4B.8B2.4B12.2A$89.7B4.4B$90.6B5.4B7.2A$92.4B6.4B6.2A$94.3BA5.
2B2D$95.BA.A5.BD.D$96.A.A6.D$97.A$98.3A13.A.A$100.A13.2A$115.A2$114.A
$113.2A17.A$113.A.A$129.2A$129.A.A$116.4A11.A$115.3A2.A10.2A$115.A3.A
3.2A$116.A2.A3.2A$116.3A$120.2A$120.2A2$132.A$123.2A7.A$123.2A!
One thing that makes this hard to find is that we do not really have a h-to-spark collection, not sure how I would define that anyways.
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Jormungant
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » November 10th, 2022, 3:35 pm

two factories can be combined and produce an R output, or a traffic light, selected solely on whether one signal arrives before the other. The interesting thing is that there is only 2 possible outcomes, no matter the delay between the 2 inputs, which is basically allowing to compare 2 timing without any assumption.

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x = 212, y = 95, rule = LifeHistory
14$21.A$21.3A124.A$24.A123.3A$23.2A126.A$23.5B122.2A$25.4B19.4B98.5B$
24.5B20.4B99.4B19.4B$24.6B20.4B97.5B20.4B$23.B2A3B22.4B10.2A84.6B20.
4B$23.B2A4B22.4B8.B2AB6.A75.B2A3B22.4B10.2A$23.7B23.4B7.3B6.A.A74.B2A
4B22.4B8.B2AB6.A$22.8B24.4B7.B.B5.A.A74.7B23.4B7.3B6.A.A$22.7B26.4B4.
5B4.2A.2A72.8B24.4B7.B.B5.A.A$22.7B27.4B2.6B5.B2.A72.7B26.4B4.5B4.2A.
2A$11.2A8.8B28.11B3.B2ABA73.7B27.4B2.6B5.B2.A$12.A8.9B25.12B.2B.B2A.A
.A60.2A8.8B28.11B3.B2ABA$12.A.AB4.10B23.19B4.2A61.A8.9B25.12B.2B.B2A.
A.A$13.2AB.14B21.20B67.A.AB4.10B23.19B4.2A$15.17B21.18B69.2AB.14B21.
20B$15.17B21.19B70.17B21.18B$16.15B24.17B70.17B21.19B$15.16B24.18B70.
15B24.17B$13.19B12.2A10.16B70.16B24.18B$11.20B12.B2AB8.19B2.2B62.19B
12.2A10.16B$11.2BC17B13.3B8.24BD58.20B12.B2AB8.19B2.2B$10.3BCBC4B.9B
15.2B8.24BDBD56.2BC17B13.3B8.24BD$11.2B3C4B2.8B14.4B6.25B3DB54.3BCBC
4B.9B15.2B8.24BDBD$10.5BC4B2.8B14.5B2.30BD56.2B3C4B2.8B14.4B6.25B3DB$
9.10B2.8B13.38B57.5BC4B2.8B14.5B2.30BD$8.4B9.8B13.31B.4B58.10B2.8B13.
38B$8.3B9.9B13.28B3.4B58.4B9.8B13.31B.4B$6.4B10.10B11.30B.4B59.3B9.9B
13.28B3.4B$6.2C11.6BA4B12.28B.4B58.4B10.10B11.30B.4B$7.C10.8BA4B10.
33B59.2C11.11B12.28B.4B$4.3C11.8BA5B7.BD32B61.C10.13B10.33B$4.C13.12B
2D6.3BD31B58.3C11.14B7.BD32B$18.11BDBC2.2D.4B2D30B58.C13.12B2D6.3BD
31B$19.11BC2.D2BD3B2D31B72.11BDBD2.2D.4B2D30B$34.2D4BD31B74.11BD2.D2B
D3B2D31B$33.38B90.2D4BD31B$23.2BAB5.7B.31B89.38B$23.BABA5.8B.4B2A22B
81.2BAB5.7B.31B$23.A2BA5.12B.2A2B5.16B80.BABA5.8B.4B2A22B$24.2A6.11B
4.B6.17B79.A2BA5.12B.2A2B5.16B$32.9B13.17B80.2A6.11B4.B6.17B$32.9B14.
15B89.9B13.17B$31.11B14.12B91.9B14.15B$31.11B14.14B88.11B14.12B$31.
12B9.A.2AB.B2.2B2.B.B2A.A86.11B14.14B$25.B4.14B6.3AB2AB4.3B3.B2AB3A
84.12B9.A.2AB.B2.2B2.B.B2A.A$24.3B3.10B.4B4.A4.B6.B2AB4.B4.A77.A4.14B
6.3AB2AB4.3B3.B2AB3A$22.6B2.15B5.3A.2A6.2A4.2A.3A77.2BA3.10B.4B4.A4.B
6.B2AB4.B4.A$16.4B2.7B.13B.B2C5.2A2.A10.A2.2A77.BABA2B2.15B5.3A.2A6.
2A4.2A.3A$14.29B.BC.C7.2A10.2A74.4B2.2A2BA2B.5B3A5B.B2C5.2A2.A10.A2.
2A$13.B2ABD25B4.C93.13B2A6B5A3B.BC.C7.2A10.2A$13.3ABCAD23B4.2C91.4BD
11B2A3BABA3BA2B4.C$13.B2AB3CB2A21B96.4BDBD2BA3B2A7BABA3BAB4.2C$13.3AB
2ADB2A21B96.4B3D2BA3BA8BA2BA3BAB$13.2A30B95.6BDBA4BABA3BA7BAB2A$18.
26B96.9BA3BA5BA8BA3B$20.B2.20B102.6BABABAB2A3BA8B$22.20B.B.B101.B2.3B
ABA5BABA6B$21.24B2A102.12BA2B2A3B.B.B$21.24B2A101.17BA6B2A$19.2CB2.5B
2.12B.2B102.24B2A$18.C.CB2.4B3.13B102.2CB2.5B2.12B.2B$18.C14.11B.B99.
C.CB2.4B3.13B$17.2C14.12B2A98.C14.11B.B$33.10B.B2A97.2C14.12B2A$31.2A
B.6B4.B114.10B.B2A$30.A.AB.4B119.2AB.6B4.B$30.A5.5B116.A.AB.4B$29.2A
8.2A116.A5.5B$39.A116.2A8.2A$40.3A123.A$42.A124.3A$169.A!
Of course, I would have preferred if there was only 1 possible outcome, but maybe a different hive factory could be used without the leftover reaction that still interacts, or course having 2 still life that produces a glider would be more convenient.
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » April 21st, 2024, 5:20 am

No description needed here, as good as it can get for this thread, I believe:

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x = 160, y = 159, rule = LifeHistory
17$115.A$115.3A17.A$94.A23.A14.3A$93.A.A21.2A13.A$93.A.A16.2A18.2A4.
2A$92.2A.2A16.A24.A$113.A.A20.A.A$92.2A.2A17.2A20.2A$33.A57.A.A.2A$
33.3A13.2A40.A41.2A$36.A9.2A2.A35.A.2A.2A39.A2.A$35.2A9.2A.A36.2A.A
42.A.A$45.A3.2A38.A43.A$45.A.A.A39.2A$44.A4.A$38.A5.A3.2A.A82.2A$36.
2A.2A4.2A3.2A82.A2.A.A.2A$39.2A6.2A86.3A.2A.A$39.A7.A90.A$35.A3.A9.A
2.A.2A33.2A32.2D5.2A5.A2.2A$35.A7.2A3.6A.A33.2A21.2A.D7.2D5.2A6.3A$
43.A.A66.2A.3D24.A$36.A8.A4.2A63.D.D22.3A$36.2A.A5.2A3.2A65.D21.A$34.
A.4A99.2A4.2A$32.A2.A2.A9.6A91.A$32.A2.A11.A4.A.A88.A.A$33.A13.A.A4.A
88.2A$48.2A3.A.2A$43.A.A8.A2.A82.2A$43.A.A10.2A81.A2.A$33.A3.A3.A.A
95.A.A$32.A.A.A.A2.A92.A5.A$33.2A.2A24.2A70.2A$63.A57.A.2A8.A.A$30.A
9.A22.A.2A52.3A.2A16.2A$29.A.A7.A.A13.2A4.3A2.A51.A22.A2.A.A.2A$29.A
3.2A.2A3.A13.2A3.A3.2A53.3A.2A17.3A.2A.A$30.A3.A.A3.A19.4A57.A.A21.A$
31.2A.A.A.2A6.2A15.A57.A.A20.A2.2A$33.A3.A7.A.A12.3A59.A22.2A.A$45.A
13.A73.2A$44.2A14.5A68.A$64.A69.3A$62.A73.A$62.2A$47.A.A$47.2A$48.A2$
70.A.A$70.2A$71.A5$25.A$25.3A$28.A68.A$27.2A68.3A$13.A.2A22.A60.A$13.
2A2.A20.A.A58.2A$16.A21.A.A$12.A.2A.3A17.2A.3A52.2A13.2A$12.2A.A.A2.A
22.A50.A2.A12.A.A$19.2A16.2A.3A51.A.3A5.2A5.A$20.2A15.2A.A52.2A3.A4.
3A$21.A2.2A66.A3.4A4.A.A$20.A3.2A67.3A3.A3.4A$20.4A2.A42.2A25.3A.6A.
2A6.2A$19.A.A48.2A23.A2.A6.A.A2.A4.2A$20.A48.A25.2A8.A2.A.A$99.A7.A2.
A10.2A$17.2A81.A6.2A12.A$16.A.A85.3A12.A.A$16.A85.A3.A12.2A$15.2A4.2A
$22.A21.D58.3A$19.3A22.D.D$19.A24.3D.2A$21.3A6.2A5.2D7.D.2A21.2A45.2A
$20.2A2.A5.2A5.2D32.2A45.A$23.A95.3A$19.A.2A.3A94.A$19.2A.A.A2.A$26.
2A86.2A$114.2A$71.2A$28.A43.A22.2A$27.A.A42.A.2A18.A.A$26.A2.A39.2A.
2A.A18.A$27.2A41.A22.2A$65.2A.A.A$24.2A20.2A17.2A.2A$23.A.A20.A.A$23.
A24.A16.2A.2A54.2A$22.2A4.2A18.2A16.A.A55.A$29.A13.2A21.A.A53.A.A$26.
3A14.A23.A54.2A$26.A17.3A$46.A56.2A$103.2A2$97.A$97.3A$100.A$99.2A3$
113.3A2$98.2A12.A3.A$97.A.A12.3A$97.A12.2A6.A$96.2A10.A2.A7.A$108.A.A
2.A8.2A$102.2A4.A2.A.A6.A2.A$102.2A6.2A.6A.3A$112.4A3.A3.3A$112.A.A4.
4A3.A$113.3A4.A3.2A$107.A5.2A5.3A.A$106.A.A12.A2.A$107.2A13.2A3$115.
2A$115.2A!
I guess I will at least mention there is a p96 and p143 gun in there, and that there are many h-to-X that fits there too. it got me wondering how long the loop needs to be for it to allow 2 gliders on it that will never collide (like in this case) but that seems a headache so I will pass.
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by confocaloid » April 21st, 2024, 6:13 am

Jormungant wrote: ↑
April 21st, 2024, 5:20 am
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I guess I will at least mention there is a p96 and p143 gun in there, and that there are many h-to-X that fits there too. it got me wondering how long the loop needs to be for it to allow 2 gliders on it that will never collide (like in this case) but that seems a headache so I will pass.
With this H-to-G and when driven by a p96 glider stream, I think the safe repeat time is at most 305:

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x = 139, y = 141, rule = LifeHistory
93.2A6.2A$87.A.2A.A.A6.A.A.2A.A$87.2A.A.A10.A.A.2A$91.A.A8.A.A2$92.A
2.A4.A2.A$93.A3.2A3.A$95.6A$96.4A$90.3A10.3A$90.5A.4A.5A$93.A8.A$94.A
6.A$95.A4.A$97.2A3$97.2A$88.2A7.2A7.2A$89.A16.A$89.A.A12.A.A$76.2A.A
10.2A6.2A4.2A$76.A.2A18.A.A$99.2A37.E$71.2A4.5A54.3E$71.A5.A4.A2.2A
48.E$63.A.2A.2A.A8.A2.A2.A6.3A39.2E$63.2A.A.A.A9.2A.A.A9.A$69.A7.A5.A
.2A7.A$76.A.A4.A$49.2A9.2A14.A2.A2.2A$49.2A10.A10.2A.4A20.A$55.2A4.A.
A5.2A.A.3A21.A.A$49.4A2.A.A4.2A5.A2.A25.A.A$48.A4.A.A.A14.A3.A22.A$
48.A.A.A.A.A9.2A.A24.2A$49.2A.A.A12.A7.A17.A.A$53.A.A11.3A2.A2.A17.A
44.E$54.A12.A2.2A.3A16.2A42.3E$66.2A.2A64.E$66.A68.2E$44.2A13.2A8.A8.
2A$44.2A12.A2.A7.A9.2A$57.A7.A2.A9.A$57.A8.2A$60.A$56.2A.2A19.2A$51.
3A.2A2.A12.A7.A.A$51.A2.A2.3A11.A.A8.A$51.A7.A12.A.A.2A4.2A$57.A.2A9.
A.A.A.A.A$50.A3.A14.A.A.A4.A$54.A2.A5.2A4.A.A2.4A$50.3A.A.2A5.A.A4.2A
$8.A31.2A6.4A.2A10.A10.2A$8.3A13.2A14.A2.2A2.A2.A14.2A9.2A$11.A9.2A2.
A15.A.A4.A.A$10.2A10.A.A15.2A.A5.A7.A$21.A2.2A17.A.2A9.A.A.A.2A$24.A
18.A2.A8.A.2A.2A.A$20.A.A.A19.A4.A5.A$12.A.A4.A.A.2A.A18.5A4.2A43.3A$
13.A6.2A3.2A74.A$12.A.A7.2A23.2A.A49.A$12.3A7.A24.A.2A$12.2A10.A2.A.
2A46.A$11.A2.A3.2A3.6A.A44.2A$11.A2.A3.A.A55.2A$11.A2.A5.A4.2A$12.3A
5.2A3.2A2$8.3A12.6A$7.3A12.A4.A.A$22.A.A4.A71.2A$19.A3.2A3.A.2A70.2A$
17.A.A9.A2.A68.A$18.2A11.2A95.2A.A$8.A3.A115.A.2A$7.A.A.A.A$8.2A.2A
24.2A84.2A4.5A$6.3A3.3A23.A84.A5.A4.A$5.2A7.2A22.A.2A73.A.2A.2A.A8.A
2.A$4.3A.A3.A.3A13.2A4.3A2.A73.2A.A.A.A9.2A.A$3.2A3.2A.2A3.2A12.2A3.A
3.2A80.A7.A5.A.2A$3.3A2.2A.2A2.3A17.4A89.A.A4.A.A$4.2A9.2A4.2A15.A62.
2A9.2A14.A2.A2.2A2.A$5.4A3.4A4.A.A12.3A63.2A10.A10.2A.4A6.2A$7.A5.A6.
A13.A72.2A4.A.A5.2A.A.3A$7.A5.A5.2A14.5A61.4A2.A.A4.2A5.A2.A$39.A60.A
4.A.A.A14.A3.A$13.A23.A62.A.A.A.A.A9.2A.A$13.3A21.2A56.2A4.2A.A.A12.A
7.A$16.A79.A8.A.A11.3A2.A2.A$15.2A79.A.A7.A12.A2.2A.3A$.A.2A22.A69.2A
19.2A.2A$.2A2.A20.A.A89.A$4.A21.A.A82.2A8.A$A.2A.3A9.A7.2A.3A69.A9.A
2.A7.A$2A.A.A2.A8.A.A11.A66.2A9.A7.A2.A12.2A$7.2A8.2A6.2A.3A68.2A8.A
8.2A13.2A$25.2A.A83.A$108.2A.2A$9.A7.2A66.2A16.3A.2A2.A12.A$8.A.A74.A
17.A2.A2.3A11.A.A$7.A2.A72.A.A17.A7.A12.A.A.2A$8.2A73.2A24.A.2A9.A.A.
A.A.A$79.A22.A3.A14.A.A.A4.A$5.2A71.A.A25.A2.A5.2A4.A.A2.4A$4.A.A71.A
.A21.3A.A.2A5.A.A4.2A$4.A74.A20.4A.2A10.A10.2A$3.2A4.2A18.A65.2A2.A2.
A14.2A9.2A$10.A19.2AD62.A4.A.A$7.3A21.AC.D49.A7.2A.A5.A7.A$7.A24.DCD.
2A45.A9.A.A.2A9.A.A.A.2A$9.3A6.2A5.2D.5A.D.2A21.2A22.3A6.A2.A2.A8.A.
2A.2A.A$8.2A2.A5.2A5.2D4.A27.2A31.2A2.A4.A5.A$11.A85.5A4.2A$7.A.2A.3A
63.2A$7.2A.A.A2.A62.A.A18.2A.A$14.2A57.2A4.2A6.2A10.A.2A$72.A.A12.A.A
$59.2A11.A16.A$16.A43.A10.2A7.2A7.2A$15.A.A42.A.2A16.2A$14.A2.A39.2A.
2A.A$15.2A41.A$53.2A.A.A21.2A$12.2A20.2A17.2A.2A20.A4.A$11.A.A20.A.A
40.A6.A$11.A24.A16.2A.2A18.A8.A$10.2A4.2A18.2A16.A.A16.5A.4A.5A$17.A
13.2A21.A.A16.3A10.3A$14.3A14.A23.A23.4A$14.A17.3A43.6A$34.A41.A3.2A
3.A$75.A2.A4.A2.A2$74.A.A8.A.A$70.2A.A.A10.A.A.2A$70.A.2A.A.A6.A.A.2A
.A$76.2A6.2A!
304 may or may not work, but attaching a p304 gun wouldn't cover all timing possibilities since gcd(304, 96) > 1.
303 is already unsafe, because some input gliders will be deleted by a spark from processing the previous glider.
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Jormungant
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » April 21st, 2024, 1:19 pm

For a better repeat time, I think what I posted before is better, just that the input are gliders, so that makes this quite compact. Another thing that seems to work is this, and it involves a block keeper in fact:

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x = 91, y = 140, rule = LifeHistory
16$37.A$37.3A13.2A$40.A9.2A2.A$39.2A8.B2A.A$39.5B5.3B.2A$41.4B3.B3A.A
$39.10B3A.A$38.4BA3B2.A.B.2A.A$38.3BABA2B3.2A3.2A$38.2B2AB2AB5.2A$40.
3A4B4.A$39.3A5B6.A2.A.2A$39.4B2A.B2A3.6A.A$39.A5B.BA.A$39.A5B4.A4.2A$
40.BA2BA4.2A3.2A$38.B.B3AB$36.B3A2.4B6.6A$36.3AB3.4B4.A4.A.A$37.B6.4B
3.A.A3B.A$45.3BA3.2A3BA.2A$36.B5.B3.3BA3.3B.BA2.A$35.3B3.3B3.3AB2.5B
2.2A$33.4BA3.A10B2.3B$32.4BA.A.A.A4B2.6B3A$32.2B2A2BA.A2B2A2B3.4BA3BA
7.2A$32.2B2AB2A.2AB2A2B4.3BA3BA8.A$32.BABA3B.3BABAB5.2BA4B2AB5.A.2A$
32.2BA2B2A.2A2BA2B5.4BA4BAB.B3A2.A$32.7B.7B5.3BABA3BA2BAB2.2A$32.5B2A
.2A5B5.4BA4BAB.4A$32.BA2BA.A.A.A2BAB3.2AB.BA3B2A4.B.A$33.A3BA3.A3BA3.
A.AB.BA2BA.B2.B3A$35.3B3.3B5.A5.3BA4.A$36.B5.B5.2A5.3AB5.5A$54.4B10.A
$53.4B9.A$52.4B10.2A$51.4B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$
43.4B$42.4B$41.4B$29.A10.4B$29.3A7.4B$32.A5.4B$31.2A4.4B$17.A.2A10.9B
3.A$17.2A2.A11.6B3.A.A$20.A12.BA3B4.A.A$16.A.2A.3A8.BA3B4.2A.3A$16.2A
.A.A2.A7.B3A2B4.B4.A$23.2A6.6B4.2AB3A$30.7B4.2A.A$28.4B2A4B.4B$25.A2.
6BA6B$24.A.A.4B2A8B$23.A2.A$24.2A2$21.2A$20.A.A$20.A$19.2A4.2A$26.A
21.D$23.3A22.D.D$23.A24.3D$34.2A5.2D7.D$34.2A5.2D12$56.2A$55.A.A$56.A
4$35.2A$35.2A$64.2A$64.2A13$39.3C$40.C8.2A$40.3C6.A$50.3A$52.A!
That being said, the fact that it is a block keeper makes this a bit precarious, so clearing the block to replace is not safe. Moreover, there is a rogue spark that could make this fail, with 1 specific timing only... that somehow is not a catastrophic failure though, it makes 3 still life and 1 glider, in principle could be corrected I believe.

Addendum: Do not look at this for too long, that some weird stuff all right...

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x = 264, y = 141, rule = LifeHistory
10$114.A$114.3A$117.A$116.2A$23.A78.A.2A10.5B7.A75.A$23.3A76.2A2.A11.
4B5.A.A74.3A$26.A78.A12.4B5.A.A77.A$25.2A74.A.2A.3A8.5B4.2A.3A74.2A$
11.A.2A10.5B7.A63.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A59.A.2A10.5B7.A$11.2A2.A11.4B5.A
.A66.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A60.2A2.A11.4B5.A.A$14.A12.4B5.A.A68.4B4.4B2AB4.
2A.A65.A12.4B5.A.A$10.A.2A.3A8.5B4.2A.3A68.8BA2BA2B.4B63.A.2A.3A8.5B
4.2A.3A$10.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A66.2BA6BABA6B65.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A$14.
3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A67.BABA5B3A7B68.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A$16.4B4.4B2AB4.2A.A
69.A2BA16B69.4B4.4B2AB4.2A.A$18.8BA2BA2B.4B71.B2A10B2A6B70.8BA2BA2B.
4B$17.2BA6BABA6B73.13B3A5B69.2BA6BABA6B$17.BABA5B3A7B70.2AB.11B2A5B
70.BABA5B3A7B$17.A2BA16B68.A.AB3.15B71.A2BA16B$17.B2A10B2A6B67.A4.10B
.6B6.B.3A60.B2A10B2A6B$17.13B3A5B66.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB5.6BA60.13B3A5B$
15.2AB.11B2A5B74.A10.C2BC5.5BA59.2AB.11B2A5B$14.A.AB3.15B72.3A12.CBC
4.2B3D2B58.A.AB3.15B9.A$14.A4.10B.6B6.B.2A62.A21.4BD2B58.A4.10B.6B6.B
.B2A$13.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB5.5B2A72.2A5.2A.4B3DB57.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB5.4BA
BA$20.A10.C2BC5.4BAB73.2A4.2BA9B64.A10.C2BC5.6B$17.3A12.CBC4.2B3D2B
79.A11B61.3A12.CBC4.2B3D2B$17.A21.4BD2B79.12B61.A21.4BD2B$28.2A5.2A.
4B3DB79.4BABA4B73.2A5.2A.4B3DB$28.2A4.ABA9B80.7B76.2A4.2BA9B$34.12B
80.8B81.12B$34.2A10B81.8B80.12B$34.5B2A4B82.B.A4B81.11B$35.3B3AB86.3B
AB83.7B$35.3B2A3B83.CD4B84.8B$36.3B2A3B77.2C2.CBAD88.8B$36.B.5A78.C3.
ADBC88.B.5B$37.3BAB76.2C.C2.3AC90.5B$35.CD4B78.C.C.2CA90.CD4B$30.2C2.
CBAD80.C2.C2.C86.2C2.CBAD$30.C3.ADBC80.2C2.C4.C83.C3.BDBC$27.2C.C4.AC
86.5C80.2C.C.A3BC$28.C.C.2C175.C.C.CDB$27.C2.C2.C88.C.2C82.C2.C2.CA$
27.2C2.C4.C85.2C.C82.2C2.C4.C$32.5C176.5C2$31.C.2C177.C.2C$31.2C.C
177.2C.C24$179.A$97.A42.A38.3A$55.A41.3A40.3A39.A$55.3A42.A42.A37.2A$
58.A40.2A41.2A23.A.2A10.5B7.A$57.2A26.A.2A10.5B7.A16.A.2A10.5B7.A12.
2A2.A11.4B5.A.A$43.A.2A10.5B7.A15.2A2.A11.4B5.A.A15.2A2.A11.4B5.A.A
14.A12.4B5.A.A$43.2A2.A11.4B5.A.A17.A12.4B5.A.A18.A12.4B5.A.A10.A.2A.
3A8.5B4.2A.3A$46.A12.4B5.A.A13.A.2A.3A8.5B4.2A.3A12.A.2A.3A8.5B4.2A.
3A8.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A$42.A.2A.3A8.5B4.2A.3A11.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A
11.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A11.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A$42.2A.A.A2.A7.6B4.B4.A14.3B
2AB5.6B4.2AB3A16.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A14.4B4.4B2AB4.2A.A$46.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB
3A17.4B4.4B2AB4.2A.A20.4B4.4B2AB4.2A.A18.8BA2BA2B.4B$48.4B4.4B2AB4.2A
.A21.8BA2BA2B.4B24.8BA2BA2B.4B19.2BA6BABA6B$50.8BA2BA2B.4B22.2BA6BABA
6B25.2BA6BABA6B21.BABA5B3A7B$49.2BA6BABA6B24.BABA5B3A7B24.BABA5B3A7B
20.A2BA16B$49.BABA5B3A7B23.A2BA16B23.A2BA16B19.B2A10B2A6B20.B$49.A2BA
16B22.B2A10B2A6B22.B2A10B2A6B18.13B3A5B20.B$49.B2A10B2A6B21.13B3A5B
22.13B3A5B16.2AB.11B2A5B21.B$49.13B3A5B19.2AB.11B2A5B21.2AB.11B2A5B
16.A.AB3.15B22.B$47.2AB.11B2A5B19.A.AB3.15B21.A.AB3.15B17.A4.10B.6B
22.B$46.A.AB3.15B20.A4.10B.6B21.A4.10B.6B16.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB23.3B6.3B
$46.A4.10B.6B19.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB21.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB24.A10.C2BC2B5.D3B
12.3B8.B$45.2A4.2A4.3B3.B2CB27.A10.C2BC.B5.D3B17.A10.C2BC2B5.D3B10.3A
12.CBC2B5.DBDB12.3B$52.A10.C2BC.B5.D3B13.3A12.CBC.B5.DBDB14.3A12.CBC
2B5.DBDB10.A17.2B5.3DB$49.3A12.CBC.B5.DBDB13.A18.BC4.3DB14.A17.2B5.3D
B21.2A5.2C5.2BDB$49.A18.C.C3.3DB24.2A5.C6.2BDB25.2A5.C6.2BDB21.2A5.2C
2B3.4B$60.2A5.C2.C3.2BDB24.2A5.2C2B3.4B25.2A5.2C2B3.4B29.3B$60.2A5.2C
2B3.4B32.3B40.3B35.4B$68.3B38.4B39.4B33.6B$67.4B36.6B37.6B33.6B$65.6B
36.6B37.6B33.D5B$65.6B36.D5B37.D5B33.D.D3B$65.D5B36.D.D3B37.D.D3B33.
3D3B$65.D.D3B36.3D3B37.3D3B33.2BD3B$65.3D3B36.2BD3B37.2BD3B33.6B$65.
2BD3B36.6B37.6B$65.6B!
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Jormungant
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by Jormungant » April 22nd, 2024, 11:39 am

Weird thing... adds a regular clock glider into a stream with different timing, as long as that other stream has a period that is high enough, that will work without failing:

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x = 251, y = 198, rule = LifeHistory
22$189.A$189.3A13.2A$192.A9.2A2.A$191.2A8.B2A.A$191.5B5.3B.2A$193.4B
3.B3A.A$191.10B3A.A$190.4BA3B2.A.B.2A.A$190.3BABA2B3.2A3.2A$190.2B2AB
2AB5.2A$192.3A4B4.A$191.3A5B6.A2.A.2A$191.4B2A.B2A3.6A.A$191.A5B.BA.A
$191.A5B4.A4.2A$192.BA2BA4.2A3.2A$190.B.B3AB$188.B3A2.4B6.6A$188.3AB
3.4B4.A4.A.A$189.B6.4B3.A.A3B.A$197.3BA3.2A3BA.2A$188.B5.B3.3BA3.3B.B
A2.A$187.3B3.3B3.3AB2.5B2.2A$185.4BA3.A10B2.3B$184.4BA.A.A.A4B2.6B3A$
184.2B2A2BA.A2B2A2B3.4BA3BA7.2A$184.2B2AB2A.2AB2A2B4.3BA3BA8.A$184.BA
BA3B.3BABAB5.2BA4B2AB5.A.2A$184.2BA2B2A.2A2BA2B5.4BA4BAB.B3A2.A$184.
7B.7B5.3BABA3BA2BAB2.2A$184.5B2A.2A5B5.4BA4BAB.4A$184.BA2BA.A.A.A2BAB
3.2AB.BA3B2A4.B.A$185.A3BA3.A3BA3.A.AB.BA2BA.B2.B3A$187.3B3.3B5.A5.3B
A4.A$188.B5.B5.2A5.3AB5.5A$206.4B10.A$205.4B9.A$204.4B10.2A$203.4B$
202.4B$201.4B$200.4B$199.4B$198.4B$197.4B$196.4B$195.4B$194.4B$193.4B
$181.A10.4B$181.3A7.4B$184.A5.4B$183.2A4.4B$169.A.2A10.9B3.A$169.2A2.
A11.6B3.A.A$172.A12.BA3B4.A.A$168.A.2A.3A8.BA3B4.2A.3A$33.2A133.2A.A.
A2.A7.B3A2B4.B4.A$34.A15.A121.3B2AB5.6B4.2AB3A$33.A16.3A121.4B4.7B4.
2A.A$33.2A6.2A10.A122.8B2A4B.4B10.2B$35.A5.2A9.2A121.2BA8BA6B11.5B$
33.2A2.A3.2A132.BABA5B2A8B9.7B$32.A2.A2.A3.2A131.A2BA16B7.8B$32.2A8.A
.A78.2A50.B2A18B6.9B$37.A.A5.A8.2A8.2A56.B2AB11.2A.A.2A31.21B6.10B$
39.2A.A10.A.A7.A2.A56.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A28.2AB.18B8.8BA$38.3A.A3.A2.
2A2.2A9.2A56.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A26.A.AB3.15B8.8BABA$38.3A.A3.A2.2A71.
5B8.B2.5A.A27.A4.10B.6B6.10BABA$39.2A.A79.6B6.2ABA4.A28.2A4.2A4.3B3.B
2DB5.13BAB$37.A.A5.A12.2A7.2A53.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A34.A10.D2BD2B3.2BD11B$
32.2A8.A.A13.A.A6.A55.13B2.A.A2B.A30.3A12.DBD2B2.3BDBD9B$32.A2.A2.A3.
2A14.A9.3A50.13B5.A2B.2A4.A25.A14.4B.B3.B3D7B$33.2A2.A3.2A27.A49.15B
3.3B8.3A34.2A3.2B2DB2.4BD7B$35.A5.2A9.2A66.15B3.2B12.A19.A13.2A4.B2DB
.9B2.B$33.2A6.2A10.A65.17B.4B10.2A19.3A5.2A10.12B$33.A16.3A66.29B3.5B
19.AB2.B2AB10.12B$34.A15.A67.9B2D2B2A11BD4B4.5B16.2A4.3B8.14B$33.2A
82.9BDBD2B2A9B3D4B2.7B16.5B2.B2.2B2.16B$57.2A.A55.2AB3.6BD13BDBD4B.9B
17.15BD14B$57.A.2A54.A2.A4.19BD15B17.2A14BDBD4B.3B2.2A$114.A.2A5.6B3.
B2.2B2.20B16.2A3B2A9B3D4B2.B3.A$58.5A18.A32.A7.6B14.18B16.B.2B2A11BD
4B7.3A$57.A4.A16.3A31.2A6.9B14.17B5.2C10.19B10.A$56.A2.A18.A41.4B4.2A
15.17B5.C12.10B$56.A.2A14.A3.2A39.4B5.A16.18B4.C.CB9.9B$53.2A.A5.A10.
2A22.D20.4B7.3A11.8B.12B4.2CB8.9B$54.A.A4.A.A9.A.A6.2A12.2BD18.4B10.A
11.2A3.B3.13B5.3B7.7B$53.A2.2A2.A2.A17.A2.A.2A8.3DB16.4B24.A7.14B4.4B
6.6B$53.2A6.4A.A14.2A.A.2A9.4B14.4B22.3A8.15B4.4B6.6B$63.2A3.3A13.A
13.4B12.4B23.A10.16B4.4B4.8B$64.A5.A10.2A.A14.4B10.4B33.19B4.4B2.8B$
63.A6.A9.A2.A16.4B8.4B32.17B.4B4.13B$56.A6.4A2.A9.A.2A18.4B6.4B32.2A
38B$56.3A11.A9.A2.3A16.4B4.4B32.A.AB.22BD13B$59.A4.A5.2A10.A2.A17.4B
2.4B33.A4.20B3D13B$58.A.A3.2A.A.A.A.2A8.2A19.8B5.2A26.2A3.21BDBD14B$
58.2A9.A5.A29.7B5.A31.22BD18B$67.5A4.A29.7B.BA.A30.14B2.2B2.22B$58.2A
7.A3.2A3.A10.A16.6BD2B.B2A30.4B2.8B10.20B$58.A16.A9.3A13.2B.7BD3B31.
4B4.7B9.21B$59.A24.A15.2A7B3D3B30.4B6.5B9.4B.17B$58.2A4.2A18.2A4.2A8.
2A13B29.2C2B5.6B9.4B.19B$65.A24.A10.2B2.10B28.CBCB6.2A12.4B2.21B$62.
3A9.A16.A14.3B2A4B.2B24.BC2B8.A11.4B3.21B$62.A10.A3.2A3.A7.2A14.3B2A
6B2A22.B2CB6.3A11.4B6.20B$73.A4.5A23.9B.B2A21.4B7.A12.4B6.20B$74.A5.A
9.2A14.10B.B21.4B20.4B7.19B$65.2A8.2A.A.A.A.2A3.A.A14.7B25.4B20.4B9.
18B$64.A2.A10.2A5.A4.A14.A.5B25.4B34.17B$64.3A2.A9.A11.3A10.A.A3.4B
22.4B36.16B$67.2A.A9.A2.4A6.A11.A6.2A21.4B38.14B$66.A2.A9.A6.A25.A64.
13B$65.A.2A10.A5.A27.3A60.11B$65.A13.3A3.2A28.A61.9B$62.2A.A.2A14.A.
4A6.2A82.7B$62.2A.A2.A17.A2.A2.2A2.A84.4B$66.2A18.A.A4.A.A84.4B$87.A
5.A.2A82.4B$90.2A.A84.4B$73.2A15.A2.A83.4B$73.2A12.A4.A83.2C2B$87.5A
83.CBCB$175.C$86.A.2A84.2C$86.2A.A8$127.2A$126.B2AB6.B$126.4B5.2B$
127.2B5.3B$119.A7.4B2.4B$118.A.A5.5B.4B$119.A.14B$120.14B$120.14B$
120.4B2A2BD6B$119.5B2A2BDBD5B$119.9B2D7B$117.2AB.11B2.3B$116.A.AB2.8B
5.2B$116.A5.10B4.B$115.2A5.B.B5.2A$123.3B4.A$122.B2AB5.3A$123.2A8.A!
the weird bit is that there is 1 phase that actually fails to produce a glider (happens around generation 7571 here), so that if one was to filter the output with a semi snark, the actual output would alternate between the regularized and unregularized version... Usefulness still pending though.
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AlbertArmStain
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by AlbertArmStain » May 1st, 2024, 4:25 pm

dvgrn wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 12:39 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 11:59 am
 Block keeper...
It can also be used as a stable universal regulator
How?
Here's the proof of concept for a stable universal regulator using the new L141 conduit:

EDIT by dvgrn: Test glider stream (on left) is p208, drive gun (on right) is p143.

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x = 189, y = 190, rule = LifeHistory
148.2A$147.B2AB$148.2B$147.2B$141.2A3.5B5.2A$140.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$140.A.
2AB2.5B5.AB$139.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$142.2A2B2.5B2.4B$139.3A2.AB.13B.B$139.
A2.2ABA5B2A6B.B2A$140.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$142.A2.6BABA5B.2B$140.2A3.7BA6B
8.2A$140.A5.12B9.A$141.A6.10B6.BA.A$140.2A6.15B.B2A$148.10BA6B$149.2B
A5BABA5B$147.4B2A4BABA4B$146.5B3A4BA7B$146.15B.B.2A$146.8BA5B4.A$146.
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$3.3B12.A.A3.4B9.B3A114.4B6.3A$19.A5.4B7.BABAB113.4B9.A$16.B5.B.6B7.2A
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BA.AB2A$43.4B84.6B3A3B4.2ABA$44.4B82.2BA10B4.3BA.2A$45.4B81.BABA9B.4B
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2A2B.BA2.2A$49.4B75.2AB.11B.4B.BABA2.A$50.4B73.A.AB3.10B3.3BA.2A$51.4B
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$54.4B72.3A5.B2A3B2.2A2.A.A$55.4B71.A7.B2A2B7.2A$56.4B71.2A4.6B$57.4B
71.A4.6B$58.4B70.A.AB.7B$59.4B70.2AB2.6B$60.4B71.8B$61.4B70.8B$62.4B70.
8B$63.4B70.7B8.A$64.4B70.6B6.3A$65.4B69.2B3D2B4.A$66.4B68.2BD4B4.2A$67.
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5.10B9.4B$77.4B54.A.A.B.3BABA7B4.AB.10B8.4B$78.4B51.A.A.A.A5BA8B3.A.A
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11B8.9B5.4B$82.ABAB55.12B8.9B4.4B$83.2A2B52.A6B2A22B3.4B$84.4B49.3A2.
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A2BA4BDBD2A3BA11B$87.4B51.5B2A5BD2ABAB3AB3A6B$88.4B50.2A3.2B2.3BA3BAB
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4B45.A14.2B2A4BA3BABA4B.B$92.4B59.2BA5BA4B2A4B$93.4B58.20B.BA$94.4B57.
3BA2B2A13BA.A$95.4B58.2B2A15B.2A$96.4B55.7B.12B$97.4B54.2A5.13B$98.4B
54.A5.12B3.2A$99.4B50.3A7.5B3A2B4.A$100.4B49.A10.3B2AB2AB.BA.A$101.4B
59.2BABAB2AB.B2A$102.4B58.2BA3BA4B$103.4B58.2BA2BA4B$104.4B17.2A.2A35.
2B3A4B$105.4B17.A.A36.8B$106.4B11.2A.A5.A.2A18.2A10.8B$107.4B9.A.A.2A
3.2A.A.A17.A10.8B$108.4B7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A13.BA.A9.4B3D2B$109.4B6.7A
B.B7A10.B.BA.A9.7BD2B$110.4B9.3B.B.3B13.2A3BA9.2D5B3DB$111.4B6.3AB.3B
.B3A11.2AB.7B3.B2D9B$112.4B4.A.BA3BA3BAB.A11.B3.6B2.13B$113.4B3.2A3.B
ABAB3.2A13.23B$114.4B7.BABAB17.23B$115.4B6.2BA2B.B13.22B$116.4B6.B.B.
4BA3.2B2.26B$117.4B2.10B4A8BD12B3.8B$118.13B3A2B2A7BDBD10B3.7B$119.12B
2A4B2A6B3D9B5.5B$120.10BABA3B2A9BD6B.B6.5B$121.8B2A22B10.2B.B2A$122.9B
2.B2.3B.4B4.4B14.BA.A$123.9B8.3B4.4B18.A$123.9B6.4B4.4B19.2A$123.9B6.
2A5.4B$123.2B2A3B.B2A5.A4.4B$121.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.3A4.4B$120.2A3BABAB5.A
.A5.4B$116.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A5.4B$117.A.A.2B6.2A9.4B$116.A2.2AB7.A9.4B
$117.2A2.B8.3A5.4B$119.2A11.A4.4B$119.A16.4B$120.A14.4B$119.2A13.4B$133.
4B$132.4B$131.4B$130.4B$129.4B$128.4B$127.4B$126.4B$125.4B!
A beehive does occur, but it doesn't seem to mess anything up.
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by dvgrn » May 1st, 2024, 5:01 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 4:25 pm
 Here's the proof of concept for a stable universal regulator using the new L141 conduit:
...
A beehive does occur, but it doesn't seem to mess anything up.
That's a long way from universal, I'm afraid. You've picked drive gun and test input periods that are both a multiple of 13. If the test glider stream is relatively prime to 143 -- say, 287 -- you run into much more difficult situations:

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x = 180, y = 181, rule = LifeHistory
139.2A$138.B2AB$139.2B$138.2B$132.2A3.5B5.2A$131.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$131.A.
2AB2.5B5.AB$130.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$133.2A2B2.5B2.4B$130.3A2.AB.13B.B$130.
A2.2ABA5B2A6B.B2A$131.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$133.A2.6BABA5B.2B$131.2A3.7BA6B
8.2A$131.A5.12B9.A$132.A6.10B6.BA.A$131.2A6.15B.B2A$139.10BA6B$140.8B
ABA5B$138.B2A7BABA4B$137.2BA2BA6BA7B$137.BA4BA8B.B.2A$137.2BA3BA7B4.A
$137.6BA6B6.3A$137.3BABA9B6.A$135.6BA10B$134.17B2A$134.11BA5B2A$134.10B
ABA3B.B$132.2AB.7BABA4B$131.A.AB6.3BA5B$131.A10.8B$130.2A12.6B$143.7B
$143.3B.3B$143.7B$143.6B12.2A$143.8B10.A$143.5BA3B6.BA.A$143.4BABA7B.
B2A$141.B.3BABA10B$140.2A5BA11B$140.2A17B$141.10BA6B$134.A6.9BABA3B$134.
3A6.6BA6B$137.A4.7BA3BA2B$136.2A.B.8BA4BAB$136.7BA6BA2BA2B$138.4BABA7B
2AB$137.5BABA8B$137.6BA10B$135.2AB.15B6.2A$134.A.AB6.10B6.A$134.A9.12B
5.A$133.2A8.6BA7B3.2A$140.2B.5BABA6B2.A$139.2A7BA2BA5BA2.2A$139.2AB.6B
2A5BAB2A2.A$140.B.13B.BA2.3A$143.4B2.5B2.2B2A$144.2B3.5B3.B.B.2A$143.
BA5.5B2.B2A.A$143.A.A5.5B.BAB.A$144.2A4.5B4.2A$149.8B$148.4B3.2A$147.
4B4.A$146.4B6.3A$145.4B9.A$45.2A97.4B$45.A.A95.4B$47.A4.2A88.4B$43.4A
.2A2.A2.A85.4B$43.A2.A.A.A.A.2A84.4B$28.2A15.BABABA.A86.4B$27.A.A16.B
2ABA.A85.4B$21.2A4.A19.2B.BA85.4B$19.A2.A2.2A.4A14.3B7.A79.4B$19.2A.A
.A.A.A2.A5.2A6.4B7.3A76.4B$22.A.ABABAB8.A6.B2A3B8.A59.A.A12.4B$22.A.A
B2AB9.A.AB3.B2A3B7.A.A57.A.2A11.4B$23.AB.2B11.2AB.10B5.A.AB56.A13.4B$
26.3B12.13B5.A3B51.A.2A.3A9.4B6.2A$26.4B6.2A3.14B6.4B49.2A.A.A2.A7.AB
AB3.2A2.A.A$24.3B2AB6.A4.15B5.6B51.3B2AB5.B2AB4.A.A.A2.A$24.3B2AB3.BA
.A6.8B2.4B4.7B52.4B4.3BAB5.BA.AB2A$22.10B.B2A7.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B47.12B4.
2ABA$21.13B8.9B4.17B.B2A45.2BA10B4.3BA.2A$20.14B7.4B4.2A5.18B2A45.BAB
A9B.4B.BABA2.A$19.15B6.4B5.A6.16B.2B46.A2BA11B2A2B.BA2.2A$18.4B2.8B7.
4B7.3A3.16B49.B2A10B.A2BA2B$17.4B5.6B6.4B10.A3.15B50.15B2A2B.BA2.2A$16.
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41.A4.2B3.4B.3B5.BA2B3.4B59.10B6.B.10B5.4B$42.4A5.B2AB.B2AB4.A.A5.4B57.
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2A3.2B2.6BA5BAB2A5B3.B$80.4B50.A10.2BA4B2AB3A6B.B2A$81.4B46.3A12.BA9B
ABA6B2A$82.4B45.A14.2BA4BAB2AB2A5B.B$83.4B59.BA5BAB2ABA6B$84.4B58.BA4B
A2B2A9B.BA$85.4B57.BA2BA8B2A6BA.A$86.4B58.3A9B2A5B.2A$87.4B55.7B.4BAB
ABA3B$88.4B54.2A5.3B3A7B$89.4B54.A5.4B2A6B3.2A$90.4B50.3A7.3B2ABA3B4.
A$91.4B49.A10.3B3A3B.BA.A$92.4B59.4BA4B.B2A$93.4B58.11B$94.4B58.10B$95.
4B17.2A.2A35.9B$96.4B17.A.A36.8B$97.4B11.2A.A5.A.2A18.2A10.8B$98.4B9.
A.A.2A3.2A.A.A17.A10.8B$99.4B7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A13.BA.A9.4B3D2B$100.4B
6.7AB.B7A10.B.BA.A8.8BD2B$101.4B9.3B.B.3B13.2A3BA8.B2D5B3DB$102.4B6.3A
B.3B.B3A11.2AB.7B.3B2D9B$103.4B4.A.BA3BA3BAB.A11.B3.21B$104.4B3.2A3.B
ABAB3.2A13.23B$105.4B7.BABAB17.23B$106.4B6.2BA2B.B13.23B$107.4B6.B.B.
5B3.2B2.26B$108.4B2.22BC23B$109.27BCBC10B.9B$110.15B2A9B3C9B5.5B$111.
14B2A11BC6B.B6.5B$112.32B10.2B.B2A$113.9B2.B2.3B.4B4.4B14.BA.A$114.9B
8.3B4.4B18.A$114.9B6.4B4.4B19.2A$114.9B6.2A5.4B$114.2B2A3B.B2A5.A4.4B
$112.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.3A4.4B$111.2A3BABAB5.A.A5.4B$107.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A
5.4B$108.A.A.2B6.2A9.4B$107.A2.2AB7.A9.4B$108.2A2.B8.3A5.4B$110.2A11.
A4.4B$110.A16.4B$111.A14.4B$110.2A13.4B!
Even if the teardrop beehive-generating reaction were the only pair of relative phases that did something out of the ordinary, the device wouldn't really be a universal regulator.

The idea the p143 gun and block-keeper combination has to be able to just sit there and repeatedly test, every 143 ticks, whether a glider has come in from the northwest (in this case) at any time during the previous 143 ticks. It can't matter which exact tick the glider arrives -- if it matters, then the device might be a regulator, but it's not a universal regulator.

The problem is that if that teardrop reaction happens, it takes an extra p143 cycle before all that junk gets cleared out -- so the device gives an incorrect answer to the question "did a glider come in during the most recent 143-tick-long time slice?" I.e., since no glider comes out at the end of that cycle, the device is saying that no input glider came in. But a glider did come in. There's one cycle where information can get lost while the beehives are getting cleaned up.
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by AlbertArmStain » May 1st, 2024, 5:09 pm

dvgrn wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 5:01 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 4:25 pm
 Here's the proof of concept for a stable universal regulator using the new L141 conduit:
...
A beehive does occur, but it doesn't seem to mess anything up.
That's a long way from universal, I'm afraid. You've picked drive gun and test input periods that are both a multiple of 13. If the test glider stream is relatively prime to 143 -- say, 287 -- you run into much more difficult situations:

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x = 180, y = 181, rule = LifeHistory
139.2A$138.B2AB$139.2B$138.2B$132.2A3.5B5.2A$131.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$131.A.
2AB2.5B5.AB$130.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$133.2A2B2.5B2.4B$130.3A2.AB.13B.B$130.
A2.2ABA5B2A6B.B2A$131.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$133.A2.6BABA5B.2B$131.2A3.7BA6B
8.2A$131.A5.12B9.A$132.A6.10B6.BA.A$131.2A6.15B.B2A$139.10BA6B$140.8B
ABA5B$138.B2A7BABA4B$137.2BA2BA6BA7B$137.BA4BA8B.B.2A$137.2BA3BA7B4.A
$137.6BA6B6.3A$137.3BABA9B6.A$135.6BA10B$134.17B2A$134.11BA5B2A$134.10B
ABA3B.B$132.2AB.7BABA4B$131.A.AB6.3BA5B$131.A10.8B$130.2A12.6B$143.7B
$143.3B.3B$143.7B$143.6B12.2A$143.8B10.A$143.5BA3B6.BA.A$143.4BABA7B.
B2A$141.B.3BABA10B$140.2A5BA11B$140.2A17B$141.10BA6B$134.A6.9BABA3B$134.
3A6.6BA6B$137.A4.7BA3BA2B$136.2A.B.8BA4BAB$136.7BA6BA2BA2B$138.4BABA7B
2AB$137.5BABA8B$137.6BA10B$135.2AB.15B6.2A$134.A.AB6.10B6.A$134.A9.12B
5.A$133.2A8.6BA7B3.2A$140.2B.5BABA6B2.A$139.2A7BA2BA5BA2.2A$139.2AB.6B
2A5BAB2A2.A$140.B.13B.BA2.3A$143.4B2.5B2.2B2A$144.2B3.5B3.B.B.2A$143.
BA5.5B2.B2A.A$143.A.A5.5B.BAB.A$144.2A4.5B4.2A$149.8B$148.4B3.2A$147.
4B4.A$146.4B6.3A$145.4B9.A$45.2A97.4B$45.A.A95.4B$47.A4.2A88.4B$43.4A
.2A2.A2.A85.4B$43.A2.A.A.A.A.2A84.4B$28.2A15.BABABA.A86.4B$27.A.A16.B
2ABA.A85.4B$21.2A4.A19.2B.BA85.4B$19.A2.A2.2A.4A14.3B7.A79.4B$19.2A.A
.A.A.A2.A5.2A6.4B7.3A76.4B$22.A.ABABAB8.A6.B2A3B8.A59.A.A12.4B$22.A.A
B2AB9.A.AB3.B2A3B7.A.A57.A.2A11.4B$23.AB.2B11.2AB.10B5.A.AB56.A13.4B$
26.3B12.13B5.A3B51.A.2A.3A9.4B6.2A$26.4B6.2A3.14B6.4B49.2A.A.A2.A7.AB
AB3.2A2.A.A$24.3B2AB6.A4.15B5.6B51.3B2AB5.B2AB4.A.A.A2.A$24.3B2AB3.BA
.A6.8B2.4B4.7B52.4B4.3BAB5.BA.AB2A$22.10B.B2A7.6B5.4B2.8B.4B.B47.12B4.
2ABA$21.13B8.9B4.17B.B2A45.2BA10B4.3BA.2A$20.14B7.4B4.2A5.18B2A45.BAB
A9B.4B.BABA2.A$19.15B6.4B5.A6.16B.2B46.A2BA11B2A2B.BA2.2A$18.4B2.8B7.
4B7.3A3.16B49.B2A10B.A2BA2B$17.4B5.6B6.4B10.A3.15B50.15B2A2B.BA2.2A$16.
4B4.9B4.4B11.A.2AB.12B49.2AB.11B.4B.BABA2.A$2A13.4B5.2A4.4B2.4B10.2A.
A.AB2.11B48.A.AB3.10B3.3BA.2A$.A12.4B7.A5.8B11.A2.A5.10B49.A4.5B.7B2.
2ABA$.A.AB2.B5.4B5.3A7.6B14.2A5.2B2A6B48.2A4.2A4.6B3.BA.AB2A$2.2AB.3B
3.4B6.A10.4B21.3B2A6B55.A3.7B2.A.A.A2.A$4.6B.4B17.6B21.10B52.3A5.B2A3B
2.2A2.A.A$4.10B17.8B20.8B.B2A.A48.A7.B2A2B7.2A$4.2B2A5B17.4B2.4B18.7B
3.B2AB3A47.2A4.6B$5.A2BA3B17.4B4.4B17.6B6.B4.A47.A4.6B$5.BABA4B15.4B6.
4B17.6B4.2A.3A48.A.AB.7B$6.BA6B13.4B8.4B16.5B4.A2.2A51.2AB2.6B$7.2B2.
4B11.4B10.4B14.8B.A.A56.8B$7.2B3.4B9.4B12.4B4.A8.9B.A.3A53.8B$7.B5.4B
7.4B14.4B3.3A6.6B.B2AB.A2.A53.8B$3.2A.B2A5.4B5.4B16.4B5.A4.7B2.AB2.A.
A.A53.7B8.A$3.A.3BA6.4B3.4B18.4B3.2A4.7B3.B.2A2.A.A53.6B6.3A$4.4A8.4B
.4B20.4B2.4B.8B2.A.A2.A.A.A53.2B3D2B4.A$.3A2.3B8.3B3AB6.A15.4B3.11B2.
2A2.2A.2A54.2BD4B4.2A$.A2.A3B2A8.4BA6.A.A15.4B.12B65.B3D4B.4B$3.A2.A2B
.A6.2BA3B6.A.A16.16B65.11B$4.2ABAB.A5.2BA2BA3B3.2A.A.2A14.14B10.A55.12B
9.A$.3A2.ABA.2A3.3B3A4B.BA3.A2.A15.5B2A3B11.3A55.12B9.3A25.2A$.A2.A2B
2A.A5.13B2A.A16.6BA5B9.A59.11B12.A24.A$3.A2.A.A.A6.5B3.3BA.A.2A14.8B2A
6B6.2A61.7B12.2A21.BA.A$4.2AB2A.2A3.5B5.2B.B2A.A8.A6.9B2A13B60.8B7.2A
3.4B19.B2A$9.A5.2A8.A2BA.A.A8.3A3.11B2A10B61.9B7.A6.5B14.3B$4.4A.A6.A
4.2A.A.A.A.2A12.A2.8B2A2B2A10B58.B.5B2A2B4.BA.A4.8B12.4B$4.A2.2A4.3A5.
A.2A.A2.A13.A.B.8BA3BA11B54.2A.2A5BA2BA4B.B2A5.10B9.4B$13.A13.A.A13.2A
11B3A13B54.A.A.B.3BABA7B4.AB.10B8.4B$28.A12.2A2.A11BA10B.4B51.A.A.A.A
5BA8B3.A.A11B7.4B$40.A2.3A3B3.2B3.B7.2B3.4B50.2A3.2A.B.11B4.A11B7.4B$
41.A4.2B3.4B.3B5.BA2B3.4B59.10B6.B.10B5.4B$42.4A5.B2AB.B2AB4.A.A5.4B57.
2A4B2A3B8.9B5.4B$44.A7.2A3.2A6.A7.4B55.BABA2B3A3B8.9B4.4B$46.A27.4B52.
A2B3A2B2A21B3.4B$45.2A28.4B49.3A2.B2AB2A8BD13B2.4B$76.4B47.A5.2B3A7B3D
8B2A3B.4B$77.4B46.2A6.BA8BDBD2AB2A2BABA7B$78.4B51.12BD6B3A9B$79.4B50.
2A3.2B2.6BA5BAB2A5B3.B$80.4B50.A10.2BA4B2AB3A6B.B2A$81.4B46.3A12.BA9B
ABA6B2A$82.4B45.A14.2BA4BAB2AB2A5B.B$83.4B59.BA5BAB2ABA6B$84.4B58.BA4B
A2B2A9B.BA$85.4B57.BA2BA8B2A6BA.A$86.4B58.3A9B2A5B.2A$87.4B55.7B.4BAB
ABA3B$88.4B54.2A5.3B3A7B$89.4B54.A5.4B2A6B3.2A$90.4B50.3A7.3B2ABA3B4.
A$91.4B49.A10.3B3A3B.BA.A$92.4B59.4BA4B.B2A$93.4B58.11B$94.4B58.10B$95.
4B17.2A.2A35.9B$96.4B17.A.A36.8B$97.4B11.2A.A5.A.2A18.2A10.8B$98.4B9.
A.A.2A3.2A.A.A17.A10.8B$99.4B7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A13.BA.A9.4B3D2B$100.4B
6.7AB.B7A10.B.BA.A8.8BD2B$101.4B9.3B.B.3B13.2A3BA8.B2D5B3DB$102.4B6.3A
B.3B.B3A11.2AB.7B.3B2D9B$103.4B4.A.BA3BA3BAB.A11.B3.21B$104.4B3.2A3.B
ABAB3.2A13.23B$105.4B7.BABAB17.23B$106.4B6.2BA2B.B13.23B$107.4B6.B.B.
5B3.2B2.26B$108.4B2.22BC23B$109.27BCBC10B.9B$110.15B2A9B3C9B5.5B$111.
14B2A11BC6B.B6.5B$112.32B10.2B.B2A$113.9B2.B2.3B.4B4.4B14.BA.A$114.9B
8.3B4.4B18.A$114.9B6.4B4.4B19.2A$114.9B6.2A5.4B$114.2B2A3B.B2A5.A4.4B
$112.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.3A4.4B$111.2A3BABAB5.A.A5.4B$107.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A
5.4B$108.A.A.2B6.2A9.4B$107.A2.2AB7.A9.4B$108.2A2.B8.3A5.4B$110.2A11.
A4.4B$110.A16.4B$111.A14.4B$110.2A13.4B!
I was going for something similar to one of Jormungant's regulators, specifically this:
Jormungant wrote: ↑
May 27th, 2020, 4:36 am
 well! that H-to-R fixed my problem in a strange way! instead of releasing a glider, just allow the next glider from the h-to-R to go through! here we go, syringe friendly universal regulator!

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x = 167, y = 195, rule = LifeHistory
9$40.2A$39.B2A2B3.2A$40.4B2.B2AB$36.B.6B3.2B$34.10B2.2B$16.2A8.2A6.
11B2A2B$15.B2AB8.A5.12B2A3B.B$16.2B9.A.AB2.18B2A$11.B3.2B11.2AB3.15B.
B2A$10.2AB.4B12.18B3.B$10.2A8B10.18B$11.B.B2A6B2.2B2.19B$14.2A31B$14.
24B.7B$10.28B2.6B$10.29B.7B$9.2A29B.6B$9.2A14B.4B7.9B6.A$10.B.11B2.4B
9.8B4.3A$12.10B2.4B11.5BA2B2.A$13.14B13.3BABAB2.2A$12.14B15.4BA5B$13.
13B15.2A3BA2B$13.13B15.2A2BA3B$15.2B.8B15.4BA3B.2B$18.A7B15.13B$18.2B
A5B15.2A2B2A7B$16.A2BA6B15.6A8B$16.AB2.7B13.3BA10B$17.A2.8B11.4B2.10B
$14.3A4.8B9.4B2.11B.B$14.A6.9B7.4B.14B2A$20.6B.29B2A$20.7B.29B$21.6B
2.28B$21.7B.24B$20.31B2A$20.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$19.18B10.8B2A$15.B3.19B
11.4B.B2A$14.2AB.15B2.4B11.2B3.B$14.2A18B2.4B9.2B$15.B.3B2A12B3.4B7.B
2AB$18.2B2A11B5.4B7.2A$19.2B2.10B6.4B45.A11.2AB$18.2B3.6B.B9.3BD44.3A
7.BA2BA2B$17.B2AB2.4B14.3BD5.B40.A5.3B2A3B$18.2A3.2B2AB14.D2BD.B.3B
38.2A3.12B$25.2A16.D2BD5B42.14B$44.D2BD4B42.13B$45.DBDB43.15B6.A$46.
2D2B43.15B3.3A5.2A$47.B46.14B2.A8.A$75.A19.13B2.A.2A2.BA.A$75.3A12.B.
3B.8B3DB3.AB.A.B2A$53.B24.A10.16BD2B4.B2A2B$53.2B10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A
11B3D2B5.5B$53.3B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.B.6B2.A$53.4B5.A16.8B.13BDBD
4B.9B.A.A$54.4B4.2A15.22BD16B2.A$47.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.20B$48.A7.6B14.
17B8.17B$48.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B10.16B$49.A2.A4.19BD15B10.16B$50.2AB
3.20BDBD4B.7B12.15B$51.14B2A9B3D13B11.14B4.2A$52.13B2A11BD14B11.13B4.
2A$53.29B2.8B13.3B.9B$53.17B.B.2B11.6B11.4B3.9B$54.15B4.3B10.5B12.2A
4.10B4.A$54.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B13.A2.13B2.A.A$55.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B11.3A3.
13B3.A$57.13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B9.A5.12B5.3A$56.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A15.11B8.A
$56.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A16.10B$56.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A13.11B$56.B.B9.2A
.2A2.A2.A.A12.A14.14B$57.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A28.15B.B$56.B2AB9.A.A38.5B2A7B
2A$57.2A11.A39.4BA2BA6B2A$110.5B2A5B.2B$110.12B$110.11B$110.11B$111.
9B$110.8B$110.2B2C2B$100.2A9.C2BCB$99.B2A2B7.B2CB$100.4B6.6B$95.2A4.
6B.4B$94.B2AB2.14B$95.3B.16B10.2C$93.2B.B2.18B8.C$92.27B4.C.C$91.18BD
11B2.2C$90.19B2D9B3D$90.18B2D12BD$90.30B2CD$88.2AB4.B.23B2C2B$87.A.AB
8.20B2.4B$87.A12.7B4.3B$86.2A9.11B5.CB$96.12B4.C.C$96.12B4.2C$86.2A8.
11B$85.A2.A2.2A3.B3D4B.4B$85.3A2.A.A3.2BD4B4.2A$88.2A2.B3.2B3D2B4.A$
81.2A2.2A.A2.B2.B.6B6.3A$81.A2.A.A.A2.A2.8B8.A$83.2A3.A.A.A.8B$84.A2.
2A2.A4.5B$84.A.A2.2A4.6B$85.A.A.B6.6B$87.AB2AB3.7B$86.A2.2AB.8B$86.2A
3.10B$91.6B2A3B$91.6B2A2B5.2A$91.10B5.A$90.11B2.BA.A$90.12B.B2A$89.
15B$88.16B$85.2B.16B$84.2A18B$84.2AB.17B$85.B.4B.8B2.4B$92.7B4.4B15.
2A6.A11.2A$93.6B5.3BA13.A2.A4.A.A10.2A$95.4B6.B2AB8.2A2.3A.A3.A.A$97.
3BA5.ABAB7.A6.A.A.2A.2A$98.BA.A5.4B4.A.A3.2A3.A.A$99.A.A6.2B5.2A4.A.
4A2.A.2A$100.A22.A3.A.A.2A$101.3A18.A3.A.A$103.A17.A3.A.A$106.A14.2A
3.A$105.A.A$106.A$127.2A$123.2A.3A5.2A$122.3A.2A6.2A$123.2A.3A12.A7.
2A$126.2A12.2A6.A2.A$105.2A33.A.A6.2A.A$105.2A45.A$152.2A$137.2A$138.
A19.2A$105.2A9.A18.3A20.A$105.2A10.2A4.2A10.A24.A$116.2A.D3.A.A14.2A
14.5A$117.D.D5.A15.A13.A$118.2D5.2A14.A.A12.3A$142.2A15.A$156.4A$103.
2A46.2A3.A3.2A$103.A2.A.2A41.2A4.3A2.A$105.2A.A.A.A24.A21.A.2A$106.A.
A.2A.A21.3A21.A$106.A2.A3.A20.A23.2A$107.A.A3.2A19.2A$108.A$150.2A$
138.2A10.A$137.A.A11.3A$139.A13.A2$124.2A$123.A.A5.2A$123.A7.2A$122.
2A2$136.A$132.2A.A.A$131.A.A.A.A$128.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$128.4A.2A2.A2.A$
132.A4.2A$130.A.A$130.2A!
I seems that I don't know what the gun periods are supposed to be, I also submitted it before realizing that the sparker didn't interact as expected.
This might work:

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x = 66, y = 171, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.B2AB$25.2B$24.2B$18.2A3.5B5.2A$17.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$17.A.2AB2.5B
5.AB$16.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$19.2A2B2.5B2.4B$16.3A2.AB.13B.B$16.A2.2ABA5B2A
6B.B2A$17.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$19.A2.6BABA5B.2B$17.2A3.7BA6B8.2A$17.A5.12B
9.A$18.A6.10B6.BA.A$17.2A6.15B.B2A$25.10BA6B$26.8BABA5B$24.B2A7BABA4B
$23.2BA2BA6BA7B$23.BA4BA8B.B.2A$23.2BA3BA7B4.A$23.6BA6B6.3A$23.3BABA9B
6.A$21.6BA10B$20.17B2A$20.11BA5B2A$20.10BABA3B.B$18.2AB.7BABA4B$17.A.
AB6.3BA5B$17.A10.8B$16.2A12.6B$29.7B$29.3B.3B$29.7B$29.6B12.2A$29.8B10.
A$29.5BA3B6.BA.A$29.4BABA7B.B2A$27.B.3BABA10B$26.2A5BA11B$26.2A17B$27.
10BA6B$20.A6.9BABA3B$20.3A6.6BA6B$23.A4.7BA3BA2B$22.2A.B.8BA4BAB$22.7B
A6BA2BA2B$24.4BABA7B2AB$23.5BABA8B$23.6BA10B$21.2AB.15B6.2A$20.A.AB6.
10B6.A$20.A9.12B5.A$19.2A8.6BA7B3.2A$26.2B.5BABA6B2.A$25.2A7BA2BA5BA2.
2A$25.2AB.6B2A5BAB2A2.A$26.B.13B.BA2.3A$29.4B2.5B2.2B2A$30.2B3.5B3.B.
B.2A$29.BA5.5B2.B2A.A$29.A.A5.5B.BAB.A$30.2A4.5B4.2A$35.8B$34.4B3.2A$
33.4B4.A$32.4B6.3A$31.4B9.A$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B
$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$5.A.A12.4B$4.A.2A11.4B$4.A13.4B$A.2A.3A9.4B6.2A$2A
.A.A2.A7.ABAB3.2A2.A.A$4.3B2AB5.B2AB4.A.A.A2.A$6.4B4.3BAB5.BA.AB2A$8.
12B4.2ABA$7.2BA10B4.3BA.2A$7.BABA9B.4B.BABA2.A$7.A2BA11B2A2B.BA2.2A$7.
B2A10B.A2BA2B$7.15B2A2B.BA2.2A$5.2AB.11B.4B.BABA2.A$4.A.AB3.10B3.3BA.
2A$4.A4.5B.7B2.2ABA$3.2A4.2A4.6B3.BA.AB2A$10.A3.7B2.A.A.A2.A$7.3A5.B2A
3B2.2A2.A.A$7.A7.B2A2B7.2A$8.2A4.6B$9.A4.6B$9.A.AB.7B$10.2AB2.6B$12.8B
$12.8B$13.8B$14.7B8.A$15.6B6.3A$15.2B3D2B4.A$15.2BD4B4.2A$15.B3D4B.4B
$15.11B$15.12B9.A$15.12B9.3A25.2A$16.11B12.A24.A$19.7B12.2A21.BA.A$18.
8B7.2A3.4B19.B2A$17.9B7.A6.5B14.3B$15.B.5B2A2B4.BA.A4.8B12.4B$11.2A.2A
5BA2BA4B.B2A5.10B9.4B$12.A.A.B.3BABA7B4.AB.10B8.4B$10.A.A.A.A5BA8B3.A
.A11B7.4B$10.2A3.2A.B.11B4.A11B7.4B$20.10B6.B.10B5.4B$19.2A4B2A3B8.9B
5.4B$18.BABA2B3A3B8.9B4.4B$16.A2B3A2B2A21B3.4B$14.3A2.B2AB2A8BD13B2.4B
$13.A5.2B3A7B3D8B2A3B.4B$13.2A6.BA8BDBD2AB2A2BABA7B$19.12BD6B3A9B$19.
2A3.2B2.6BA5BAB2A5B3.B$20.A10.2BA4B2AB3A6B.B2A$17.3A12.BA9BABA6B2A$17.
A14.2BA4BAB2AB2A5B.B$32.BA5BAB2ABA6B$32.BA4BA2B2A9B.BA$32.BA2BA8B2A6B
A.A$34.3A9B2A5B.2A$32.7B.4BABABA3B$32.2A5.3B3A7B$33.A5.4B2A6B3.2A$30.
3A7.3B2ABA3B4.A$30.A10.3B3A3B.BA.A$41.4BA4B.B2A$41.11B$42.10B$42.9B$42.
8B$41.8B5.A$40.8B4.3A5.A$39.4B3D2B3.A6.3A$37.8BD2B3.2A4.A$37.2D5B3DB9.
2A$36.B2D9B$35.13B$34.15B$33.15B2D$32.4B.9B.B2D$32.3B2.8B19.2A$32.2B4.
8B6.2A10.2A$32.B5.7B6.A.A$39.5B8.A$39.5B$40.2B.B2A$43.BA.A$46.A5.2A$46.
2A5.A7.3E$50.3A8.E$50.A11.E!
EDIT:
It works!:

...EDIT by dvgrn: p287 test input gun now in the lower right, p143 drive gun to the north as before.

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x = 159, y = 247, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.B2AB$25.2B$24.2B$18.2A3.5B5.2A$17.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$17.A.2AB2.5B
5.AB$16.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$19.2A2B2.5B2.4B$16.3A2.AB.13B.B$16.A2.2ABA5B2A
6B.B2A$17.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$19.A2.6BABA5B.2B$17.2A3.7BA6B8.2A$17.A5.12B
9.A$18.A6.10B6.BA.A$17.2A6.15B.B2A$25.10BA6B$26.8BABA5B$24.B2A7BABA4B
$23.2BA2BA6BA7B$23.BA4BA8B.B.2A$23.2BA3BA7B4.A$23.6BA6B6.3A$23.3BABA9B
6.A$21.6BA10B$20.17B2A$20.11BA5B2A$20.10BABA3B.B$18.2AB.7BABA4B$17.A.
AB6.3BA5B$17.A10.8B$16.2A12.6B$29.7B$29.3B.3B$29.7B$29.6B12.2A$29.8B10.
A$29.5BA3B6.BA.A$29.4BABA7B.B2A$27.B.3BABA10B$26.2A5BA11B$26.2A17B$27.
10BA6B$20.A6.9BABA3B$20.3A6.6BA6B$23.A4.7BA3BA2B$22.2A.B.8BA4BAB$22.7B
A6BA2BA2B$24.4BABA7B2AB$23.5BABA8B$23.6BA10B$21.2AB.15B6.2A$20.A.AB6.
10B6.A$20.A9.12B5.A$19.2A8.6BA7B3.2A$26.2B.5BABA6B2.A$25.2A7BA2BA5BA2.
2A$25.2AB.6B2A5BAB2A2.A$26.B.13B.BA2.3A$29.4B2.5B2.2B2A$30.2B3.5B3.B.
B.2A$29.BA5.5B2.B2A.A$29.A.A5.5B.BAB.A$30.2A4.5B4.2A$35.8B$34.4B3.2A$
33.4B4.A$32.4B6.3A$31.4B9.A$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B
$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$5.A.A12.4B$4.A.2A11.4B$4.A13.4B$A.2A.3A9.4B6.2A$2A
.A.A2.A7.ABAB3.2A2.A.A$4.3B2AB5.B2AB4.A.A.A2.A$6.4B4.3BAB5.BA.AB2A$8.
12B4.2ABA$7.2BA10B4.3BA.2A$7.BABA9B.4B.BABA2.A$7.A2BA11B2A2B.BA2.2A$7.
B2A10B.A2BA2B$7.15B2A2B.BA2.2A$5.2AB.11B.4B.BABA2.A$4.A.AB3.10B3.3BA.
2A$4.A4.5B.7B2.2ABA$3.2A4.2A4.6B3.BA.AB2A$10.A3.7B2.A.A.A2.A$7.3A5.B2A
3B2.2A2.A.A$7.A7.B2A2B7.2A$8.2A4.6B$9.A4.6B$9.A.AB.7B$10.2AB2.6B$12.8B
$12.8B$13.8B$14.7B8.A$15.6B6.3A$15.2B3D2B4.A$15.2BD4B4.2A$15.B3D4B.4B
$15.11B$15.12B9.A$15.12B9.3A25.2A$16.11B12.A24.A$19.7B12.2A21.BA.A$18.
8B7.2A3.4B19.B2A$17.9B7.A6.5B14.3B$15.B.5B2A2B4.BA.A4.8B12.4B$11.2A.2A
5BA2BA4B.B2A5.10B9.4B$12.A.A.B.3BABA7B4.AB.10B8.4B$10.A.A.A.A5BA8B3.A
.A11B7.4B$10.2A3.2A.B.11B4.A11B7.4B$20.10B6.B.10B5.4B$19.2A4B2A3B8.9B
5.4B$18.BABA2B3A3B8.9B4.4B$16.A2B3A2B2A21B3.4B$14.3A2.B2AB2A8BD13B2.4B
$13.A5.2B3A7B3D8B2A3B.4B$13.2A6.BA8BDBD2AB2A2BABA7B$19.12BD6B3A9B$19.
2A3.2B2.6BA5BAB2A5B3.B$20.A10.2BA4B2AB3A6B.B2A$17.3A12.BA9BABA6B2A$17.
A14.2BA4BAB2AB2A5B.B$32.BA5BAB2ABA6B$32.BA4BA2B2A9B.BA$32.BA2BA8B2A6B
A.A$34.3A9B2A5B.2A$32.7B.4BABABA3B$32.2A5.3B3A7B$33.A5.4B2A6B3.2A$30.
3A7.3B2ABA3B4.A$30.A10.3B3A3B.BA.A$41.4BA4B.B2A$41.11B$42.10B$42.9B$42.
8B$41.8B5.A$40.8B4.3A5.A$39.4B3D2B3.A6.3A$37.8BD2B3.2A4.A$37.2D5B3DB4.
B4.2A$36.B2D9B3.8B$35.13B3.6B$34.26B$33.15B2D11B2.B$32.4B.9B.B2D15B$32.
3B2.8B3.16B2A$32.2B4.8B3.3B2A8B.B2A$32.B5.7B5.BABA7B3.B$39.5B7.BA6B$39.
5B9.7B$40.2B.B2A8.7B$43.BA.A5.5B.4B$46.A5.2A5.4B$46.2A5.A6.4B$50.3A8.
4B$50.A11.4B$63.4B$64.4B$65.4B$66.4B$67.4B$68.4B$69.4B$70.4B$71.4B$72.
4B$73.4B$74.4B$75.4B$76.4B$77.4B$78.4B$79.4B$80.4B28.2A$81.4B27.A$82.
4B7.A6.2A3.2A7.A$83.4B5.A.A4.B2AB.B2AB5.4A$84.4B3.2BAB5.3B.4B3.2B4.A$
85.4B3.2B7.B3.2B3.3B3A2.A$86.4B.10BA11BA2.2A12.A$87.13B3A11B2A13.A.A13.
A$88.11BA3BA8B.B.A13.A2.A.2A.A5.3A4.2A2.A$88.10B2A2B2A8B2.A12.2A.A.A.
A.2A4.A6.A.4A$89.10B2A11B3.3A8.A.A.A2BA8.2A5.A$87.13B2A9B6.A8.A.2AB.2B
5.5B3.2A.2AB2A$87.2A6.6B2A8B14.2A.A.A3B3.5B6.A.A.A2.A$88.A9.5BA6B16.A
.2A13B5.A.2A2BA2.A$85.3A11.3B2A5B15.A2.A3.AB.4B3A3B3.2A.ABA2.3A$85.A10.
14B14.2A.A.2A3.3BA2BA2B5.A.BAB2A$95.16B16.A.A6.3BA2B6.A.2BA2.A$95.12B
.4B15.A.A6.A4B8.2A3BA2.A$84.2A.2A2.2A2.11B3.4B15.A6.B3A3B8.3B2.3A$83.
A.A.A2.A.A2.8B.4B2.4B20.4B.4B8.4A$83.A.A2.2A.B3.7B4.2A3.4B18.4B3.4B6.
A3B.A$84.A.A.A2.BA2.7B4.A5.4B16.4B5.4B5.2AB.2A$85.A2.A.B2AB.6B6.3A3.4B
14.4B7.4B5.B$86.3A.A.9B8.A4.4B12.4B9.4B3.2B$89.A.A.8B14.4B10.4B11.4B2.
2B$86.2A2.A4.5B16.4B8.4B13.6BAB$84.3A.2A4.6B17.4B6.4B15.4BABAB$83.A4.
B6.6B17.4B4.4B17.3BA2BA$84.3AB2AB3.7B18.4B2.4B17.5B2A2B$86.A.2AB.8B20.
8B17.10B$90.10B21.6B17.4B.6B$90.6B2A3B21.4B10.A6.4B3.3B.B2A$90.6B2A2B
5.2A14.6B7.3A5.4B5.B2.BA.A$90.10B5.A2.A11.8B5.A7.4B12.A$89.11B2.BA.A.
2A10.4B2.4B4.2A5.4B13.2A$89.12B.B2A.A11.4B4.9B4.4B$88.15B3.A10.4B6.6B
5.4B$87.16B3.3A7.4B7.8B2.4B$84.2B.16B6.A5.4B6.15B$83.2A18B5.2A4.4B7.14B
$83.2AB.17B4.9B8.13B$84.B.4B.8B2.4B5.6B7.2AB.10B$91.7B4.4B2.8B6.A.AB3.
B2A3B$92.6B5.15B4.A6.B2A3B$94.4B6.14B3.2A6.4B$96.3BA5.13B12.3B$97.BA.
A5.10B.B2A11.2B.BA$98.A.A7.3B2AB3.BA.A9.B2ABA.A$99.A8.3B2AB6.A8.BABAB
A.A$100.3A7.4B6.2A5.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$102.A7.3B14.4A.2A2.A2.A$107.AB.2B19.
A4.2A$106.A.AB2AB16.A.A$106.A.ABABAB15.2A$103.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$103.A2.A2.
2A.4A$105.2A4.A$111.A.A$112.2A!
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Re: Stable universal regulator

Post by dvgrn » May 1st, 2024, 6:26 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote: ↑
May 1st, 2024, 5:09 pm
 EDIT:
It works!
Does it? Better than before, for sure -- but with a p287 test input gun and a p143 drive gun, if you haven't run your pattern and confirmed a p41041 oscillator, you don't actually know if it works or not.

Gun periods can be pretty much anything above the repeat time of the circuitry these days; the drive gun just needs to be a lower period than the test input gun, and the two numbers need to be relatively prime or you're not testing all the options.

This latest version fails for the first time at T=34056, but there's no point in trying to patch up that one phase -- there are several relative phases after that that don't work out well either:

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x = 159, y = 247, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.B2AB$25.2B$24.2B$18.2A3.5B5.2A$17.A.BAB.5B5.A.A$17.A.2AB2.5B
5.AB$16.2A.B.B3.5B3.2B$19.2A2B2.5B2.4B$16.3A2.AB.13B.B$16.A2.2ABA5B2A
6B.B2A$17.2A2.A5BA2BA7B2A$19.A2.6BABA5B.2B$17.2A3.6BA7B8.2A$17.A5.5B2A
5B9.A$18.A6.3B2ABA3B6.BA.A$17.2A6.3BA2BA8B.B2A$25.4B2A11B$26.16B$24.5B
A11B$23.5B2A13B$23.4BABA8B.B.2A$23.4BA3B3A3B4.A$23.6BA6B6.3A$23.2BA4B
2A6B6.A$21.5BA11B$20.7BABA7B2A$20.17B2A$20.16B.B$18.2AB.14B$17.A.AB6.
3B2A4B$17.A10.8B$16.2A12.6B$29.7B$29.3B.3B$29.7B$29.6B12.2A$29.8B10.A
$29.4B2A3B6.BA.A$29.14B.B2A$27.B.16B$26.2A17B$26.2A7BABA7B$27.11BA5B$
20.A6.6B2A4BA2B$20.3A6.6BA6B$23.A4.3B3A3BA4B$22.2A.B.8BABA4B$22.13B2A
5B$24.11BA5B$23.16B$23.11B2A4B$21.2AB.8BA2BA3B6.2A$20.A.AB6.3BAB2A3B6.
A$20.A9.5B2A5B5.A$19.2A8.7BA6B3.2A$26.2B.5BABA6B2.A$25.2A7BA2BA5BA2.2A
$25.2AB.6B2A5BAB2A2.A$26.B.13B.BA2.3A$29.4B2.5B2.2B2A$30.2B3.5B3.B.B.
2A$29.BA5.5B2.B2A.A$29.A.A5.5B.BAB.A$30.2A4.5B4.2A$35.8B$34.4B3.2A$33.
4B4.A$32.4B6.3A$31.4B9.A$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$23.
4B$22.4B$21.4B$5.A.A12.4B$4.A.2A11.4B$4.A13.4B$A.2A.3A9.4B6.2A$2A.A.A
2.A7.4B3.2A2.A.A$4.2B2A2B5.4B4.A.A.A2.A$6.4B4.5B5.BA.AB2A$8.BA3BA6B4.
2ABA$7.B3A3BA5B4.3BA.2A$7.2A2B3A6B.4B.BABA2.A$7.2A2B2A9B2A2B.BA2.2A$7.
13B.A2BA2B$7.15B2A2B.BA2.2A$5.2AB.11B.4B.BABA2.A$4.A.AB3.10B3.3BA.2A$
4.A4.5B.7B2.2ABA$3.2A4.2A4.6B3.BA.AB2A$10.A3.7B2.A.A.A2.A$7.3A5.B2A3B
2.2A2.A.A$7.A7.B2A2B7.2A$8.2A4.6B$9.A4.6B$9.A.AB.7B$10.2AB2.6B$12.8B$
12.8B$13.8B$14.7B8.A$15.6B6.3A$15.2B3D2B4.A$15.2BD4B4.2A$15.B3D4B.4B$
15.11B$15.12B9.A$15.12B9.3A25.2A$16.11B12.A24.A$19.7B12.2A21.BA.A$18.
8B7.2A3.4B19.B2A$17.9B7.A6.5B14.3B$15.B.5B2A2B4.BA.A4.8B12.4B$11.2A.2A
5BA2BA4B.B2A5.10B9.4B$12.A.A.B.3BABA7B4.AB.10B8.4B$10.A.A.A.A5BA8B3.A
.A11B7.4B$10.2A3.2A.B.11B4.A11B7.4B$20.10B6.B.10B5.4B$19.11B8.9B5.4B$
18.12B8.9B4.4B$16.A10BABA17B3.4B$14.3A2.B2A9BABC13B2.4B$13.A5.B2A9B2D
C13B.4B$13.2A6.6BA3BCBC17B$19.8BAB2AD18B$19.2A3.2B2.14B3A4B3.B$20.A10.
8BA2B3A5B.B2A$17.3A12.11BABA6B2A$17.A14.13BA5B.B$32.8B5A6B$32.8B5A7B.
BA$32.21BA.A$34.19B.2A$32.7B.12B$32.2A5.6B2A5B$33.A5.6B2A4B3.2A$30.3A
7.10B4.A$30.A10.9B.BA.A$41.9B.B2A$41.11B$42.10B$42.9B$42.8B$41.8B5.A$
40.8B4.3A5.A$39.4B3C2B3.A6.3A$37.8BC2B3.2A4.A$37.2D5B3CB4.B4.2A$36.B2D
9B3.8B$35.13B3.2B3AB$34.17B2A4B2AB$33.15B2DB2A4B4A2.B$32.4B.9B.B2DABA
B2A4BA3BA$32.3B2.8B3.2B2A7BAB3ABA$30.2A2B4.8B3.B2A7B2AB.ABA$29.A.AB5.
7B5.11B3.A$29.A9.5B7.8B$28.2A9.5B9.7B$40.2B.B2A8.7B$43.BA.A5.5B.4B$46.
A5.2A5.4B$46.2A5.A6.4B$50.3A8.4B$50.A11.4B$63.4B$64.4B$65.4B$66.4B$67.
4B$68.4B$69.4B$70.4B$71.4B$72.4B$73.4B$74.4B$75.4B$76.4B$77.4B$78.4B$
79.4B$80.4B28.2A$81.4B27.A$82.4B7.A6.2A3.2A7.A$83.4B5.A.A4.B2AB.B2AB5.
4A$84.4B3.2BAB5.3B.4B3.2B4.A$85.4B3.2B7.B3.2B3.3B3A2.A$86.4B.22BA2.2A
12.A$87.27B2A13.A.A13.A$88.24B.B.A13.A2.A.2A.A5.3A4.2A2.A$88.24B2.A12.
2A.A.A.A.2A4.A6.A.4A$89.23B3.3A8.A.B.2ABA8.2A5.A$87.24B6.A8.A.ABA.2B5.
5B3.2A.5A$87.2A6.16B14.2A.B.A3B3.BA3B6.A.B.A2.A$88.A9.12B16.A.3A6BABA
3B5.A.AB3A2.A$85.3A11.10B15.A2.A3.2B.2BA2BA4B3.2A.ABA2.3A$85.A10.14B14.
2A.A.2A3.3B2A4B5.A.BAB2A$95.16B16.A.A6.6B6.A.3A2.A$95.12B.4B15.A.A6.5B
8.A4BA2.A$84.2A.2A2.2A2.11B3.4B15.A6.7B8.3A2.3A$83.A.A.A2.A.A2.8B.4B2.
4B20.4B.4B8.4A$83.A.A2.2A.B3.7B4.2A3.4B18.4B3.4B6.A3B.A$84.A.A.A2.2B2.
7B4.A5.4B16.4B5.4B5.2AB.2A$85.A2.A.BA2B.6B6.3A3.4B14.4B7.4B5.B$86.3A.
A.A8B8.A4.4B12.4B9.4B3.2B$89.A.A.8B14.4B10.4B11.4B2.2B$86.2A2.A4.5B16.
4B8.4B13.6BAB$84.3A.2A4.6B17.4B6.4B15.4BABAB$83.A4.B6.6B17.4B4.4B17.3B
A2BA$84.3AB2AB3.7B18.4B2.4B17.5B2A2B$86.A.2AB.8B20.8B17.10B$90.10B21.
6B17.4B.6B$90.11B21.4B10.A6.4B3.3B.B2A$90.10B5.2A14.6B7.3A5.4B5.B2.BA
.A$90.BABA6B5.A2.A11.8B5.A7.4B12.A$89.2BABA6B2.BA.A.2A10.4B2.4B4.2A5.
A3B13.2A$89.2BA2BA6B.B2A.A11.4B4.9B4.B2AB$88.2A2B3A8B3.A10.4B6.6B5.BA
BA$87.A5BA2BA6B3.3A7.4B7.8B2.4B$84.2B.B2A4BABA6B6.A5.4B6.15B$83.2A4B4A
B2ABA5B5.2A4.4B7.14B$83.2AB.4BA12B4.9B8.13B$84.B.4B.A7B2.4B5.6B7.2AB.
10B$91.4BABA4.4B2.8B6.A.AB3.B2A3B$92.4BAB5.15B4.A6.B2A3B$94.2BAB6.14B
3.2A6.4B$96.3BA5.13B12.3B$97.BA.A5.10B.B2A11.2B.BA$98.A.A7.3B2AB3.BA.
A9.B2ABA.A$99.A8.3B2AB6.A8.BABABA.A$100.3A7.4B6.2A5.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$102.
A7.3B14.4A.2A2.A2.A$107.AB.2B19.A4.2A$106.A.AB2AB16.A.A$106.A.ABABAB15.
2A$103.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$103.A2.A2.2A.4A$105.2A4.A$111.A.A$112.2A!
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