Thread for your speculative elementary conduits

[squareroot12621]

This R→P leaves behind a bi-block predecessor that I failed at suppressing:

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$2.D6.2A$.D.D$2D.D$.D.D$2.D9.3D$2C12.D$.2C9.3D$.C6$.2A$.2A!

Edit: Found it!

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x = 15, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$2.A.A$3.A5.2A$9.2A4$12.3D$2C12.D$.2C9.3D$.C6$.2A$.2A!

[squareroot12621]

A LOM→R conduit with average-squareroot12621-conduit input clearance and good output clearance:

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x = 31, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
6.A9.A$6.3A5.3A$9.A3.A7.A$8.2A3.2A5.A.A$21.A3$10.3C$2A7.C2.C$.A7.3C17.
2A$.A.A25.A$2.2A23.A.A$27.2A4$11.3D.2D$11.D5.D$11.2D2.2D3.D$13.D3.D2.
3D$11.2D2.2D4.D!

The problem is that the canonical R only appears 11 generations after its 5-cell form, and the sparks (which are in the way of the input) don't subside until over 30 more generations have passed.

[AlbertArmStain]

H-to-R but with annoying extra blinkers and H-to-junk:

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x = 73, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
62.A9.A$62.3A5.3A$65.A3.A$23.2A39.2A3.2A$23.A$21.A.A$21.2A7$3.2D$2.2D
$3.D17.2A$21.2A2$C53.C$C.C51.C.C$3C51.3C$2.C53.C9$3.2A52.2A$3.A.A17.2A
32.A.A$2A.A2.A16.2A29.2A.A2.A$A2.3A.A46.A2.3A.A$2.A3.2A48.A3.2A4.2A$.
2A.A15.2A33.2A.A7.2A$3.A.3A4.2A6.A36.A.3A$3.A3.A4.2A7.3A33.A3.A$2.2A19.
A32.2A!

[C28]

U to P that can't connect to anything

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x = 13, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2bo$bo$b2o$3bo6b3o$b3o6b3o$o8bobo$2o7b2o2$2o$o2bob2o$b3obobo$5bob
o$3b3ob3o$2bo3bo3bo$2b2o2bob3o$7bo$8b3o$10bo!

[bluemanofgrapes]

HF-pre-to-2G (Made using a combination of an old useless conduit from the useless patterns thread and an unfinished HF-pre-to-lump-of-muck catalyst I made):

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x = 18, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
15bo$13b3o$12bo$12b2o3$9b3o$8bo3bo$7bo5bo$8bo3bo$2b2o5b3o$bobo$bo$2o2$
3b2o$3b2o5$5bob2o$3b3ob2o$2bo$3b3ob2o7b2o$5bobo9bo$5bobo8bo$6bo9b2o!

[confocaloid]

HF-pre-to-2G (Made using a combination of an old useless conduit from the useless patterns thread and an unfinished HF-pre-to-lump-of-muck catalyst I made):

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x = 18, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
15bo$13b3o$12bo$12b2o3$9b3o$8bo3bo$7bo5bo$8bo3bo$2b2o5b3o$bobo$bo$2o2$
3b2o$3b2o5$5bob2o$3b3ob2o$2bo$3b3ob2o7b2o$5bobo9bo$5bobo8bo$6bo9b2o!

The honey farm can be triggered from a block, and the reaction can be catalyzed to restore the block, yielding the Snark:

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x = 19, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
3.A$4.A10.A$2.3A8.3A$12.A$12.2A3$9.3D$8.D3.D$7.D5.D$8.D3.D$2.2A5.3D$.
A.A5.2A$.A7.2A$2A2$14.A$10.2A.A.A$9.A.A.A.A$6.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$6.4A.2A2.
A2.A$10.A4.2A$8.A.A$8.2A!

[MathAndCode]

Can we extract the B-sequence or H-sequence to make an I-accepting conduit?

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x = 14, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
2o$o5b2o$b3obobo$3bobo$4b2o5$b2o$b2o9$9b3o$9bo2bo$13bo$10bobo$11bo!

[Period1GliderGun]

Maybe this also:

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x = 12, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o9$7b3o$7bo2bo$11bo$8bobo$9bo!

Might be useful for something like an I-shuttling gun. (Gen. 83 actually creates another I-heptomino, but it hits both the block and some junk.)

[squareroot12621]

This doesn't have good input clearance, but I turned it into a pi:
(It has a transparent block.)

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x = 24, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$2A9.2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A2$19.3D$21.D$19.3D2$18.3C$18.C2.C$22.C$19.C.
C$20.C$13.2A$12.A.A$12.A$11.2A$20.2A$20.A$21.3A$23.A!

[MathAndCode]

Can the relevant blocks be replaced?

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x = 63, y = 112, rule = LifeHistory
22.A$11.A9.A.A$11.3A7.A.A$14.A5.2A.3A$13.2A11.A$20.2A.3A$20.2A.A3$9.2A
3.2A$9.2A3.2A4$5.A$4.A.A$5.A7$22.2A$22.2A6$34.2A$34.2A$12.2A$13.A$10.
3A$10.A6$19.2A$20.A$17.3A$17.A$22.A$21.A.A$21.A.A29.2A$19.3A.2A28.A$18.
A32.A.A$19.3A.2A26.2A$21.A.2A$55.2A$55.A.A.2A$57.A.A$56.2A.A$59.A.2A$
22.2A32.4A2.A$21.A.A32.A3.2A$21.A35.3A$20.2A37.A$59.A.A$60.2A3$58.2A$
58.2A6$37.C$37.C.C$37.3C14.D$39.C12.3D$52.D.D$52.D$24.2A$24.2A6$31.2A
$31.2A4$4.2A$4.A.A2.2A31.2A$.A4.A3.A31.2A$.5A.3A$5.A.A$.3A.A.A13.2A$A
2.A.2A14.A$2A17.A.A$19.2A$7.A$6.A.A$5.A2.A$6.2A2$3.2A13.2A$2.A.A13.A$
2.A12.2A.A$.2A4.2A6.2A.A.2A$8.A10.A.A$5.3A3.2A.A.2A.A$5.A5.A.2A.A2.A$
17.2A!

[bluemanofgrapes]

I want this to work so badly, it's a failed H-to-G.

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x = 31, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
5$2A13.2A$.A13.A$.A.A13.A.A$2.2A12.2A.3A$22.A$16.2A.3A$16.2A.A4$2.C13.
A$2.C.C10.A.A$2.3C11.A$4.C!

[C28]

I want this to work so badly, it's a failed H-to-G.

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x = 31, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
5$2A13.2A$.A13.A$.A.A13.A.A$2.2A12.2A.3A$22.A$16.2A.3A$16.2A.A4$2.C13.
A$2.C.C10.A.A$2.3C11.A$4.C!

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x = 27, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A13.2A$.A13.A$.A.A13.A.A$2.2A12.2A.3A$22.A$16.2A.3A$16.2A.A4$2.C13.2A
$2.C.C10.A2.A2.2A$2.3C10.A.A4.A2.A$4.C11.A5.A.A.A$19.2A.A2.A$19.A2.A$
16.A4.A$16.5A2$18.A$17.A.A$18.A!

[squareroot12621]

But why would you use 57 cells when you can just use 6?

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x = 13, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
11.A$10.A.A$10.A.A$11.A$C$C.C$3C$2.C!

[MathAndCode]

Is there a fishhook replacement that recovers very slowly?

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x = 32, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
20.D$19.3D$18.2D2.D11$5.2A$6.A$6.A.A$7.2A4$27.C$27.3C$27.C.C$29.C7$28.
2A$15.2A11.A.A$15.2A13.A$6.2A22.2A$5.A2.A.A$5.2A.A.3A$8.A4.A$2.2A4.A.
3A$3.A5.2A$3A$A!

[AlbertArmStain]

Three transparent objects in one conduit

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x = 30, y = 38, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A$28.A$26.A.A$26.2A8$25.2A$25.2A4$4.C$4.C.C$4.3C$6.C$26.2A$26.A.A
$28.A$28.2A7$.2A15.2A$A2.A14.2A$A.A$.A$16.2A$16.A.A.2A$14.A.A.2A.A$14.
2A!

And if you really want a challenge, try completing this one with four transparent objects:

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x = 30, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$18.3A$17.A$17.2A14$9.2A$9.2A27$25.2A$25.2A4$4.C$4.C.C$4.3C$6.C$26.
2A$26.A.A$28.A$28.2A7$.2A15.2A$A2.A14.2A$A.A$.A$16.2A$16.A.A.2A$14.A.
A.2A.A$14.2A!

here's some other results:

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x = 640, y = 71, rule = LifeHistory
223.A$223.3A$226.A$225.2A$471.2A$165.2A197.A106.2A$165.2A196.A.A$363.
A.A$362.2A.3A$174.2A192.A$174.A.A185.2A.3A$175.2A185.2A.A$308.A$306.
3A$305.A$305.2A325.2A$85.2A544.A.A$24.2A59.2A129.A415.A$24.A.A189.3A
148.2A$26.A192.A147.2A$26.2A184.2A4.2A318.2A$213.A324.2A$213.A.A330.A
$28.2A184.2A329.A.A$28.A516.A.A$26.A.A515.2A.3A$26.2A522.A$544.2A.3A$
477.2A65.2A.A$477.2A3$635.2A$177.2A277.C178.2A$25.2A150.2A61.2A214.C.
C$25.2A213.2A214.3C$372.2A84.C$372.2A104.2A134.C$156.C158.2A161.A.A
133.C.C$4.C151.C.C60.C95.2A163.A133.3C$4.C.C149.3C60.C.C258.2A134.C$
4.3C151.C60.3C129.C284.2A$6.C171.2A41.C129.C.C282.A.A$26.2A150.A.A60.
2A51.C56.3C284.A$26.A.A68.2A81.A60.A.A50.C.C56.C196.2A86.2A$28.A68.2A
81.2A61.A50.3C76.2A175.2A$28.2A213.2A51.C76.A.A$316.2A57.A77.2A15.2A$
316.A.A56.2A75.A2.A14.2A$76.C241.A133.A.A74.C$76.C.C239.2A133.A75.C.C
$76.3C389.2A59.3C79.2A15.2A$78.C74.2A15.2A296.A.A.2A57.C78.A2.A14.2A$
.2A15.2A78.2A52.A2.A14.2A44.2A15.2A231.A.A.2A.A77.2A57.A.A$A2.A14.2A
78.A.A51.A.A60.A2.A14.2A231.2A83.A.A57.A$A.A97.A52.A61.A.A130.2A15.2A
186.A72.2A$.A98.2A66.2A46.A130.A2.A14.2A186.2A71.A.A.2A$16.2A150.A.A.
2A57.2A58.2A15.2A37.A.A274.A.A.2A.A$16.A.A.2A144.A.A.2A.A57.A.A.2A53.
A2.A14.2A38.A275.2A$14.A.A.2A.A144.2A61.A.A.2A.A53.A.A70.2A$14.2A213.
2A60.A71.A.A.2A$306.2A53.A.A.2A.A$306.A.A.2A49.2A$73.2A15.2A212.A.A.
2A.A214.2A15.2A$72.A2.A14.2A212.2A219.A2.A14.2A$72.A.A450.A.A$73.A
452.A$88.2A451.2A$88.A.A.2A447.A.A.2A$86.A.A.2A.A445.A.A.2A.A$86.2A
451.2A!

EDIT:
Another different partial:

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x = 41, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
40.A$38.3A$A36.A$3A34.2A$3.A$2.2A$35.2A$34.A2.A$35.2A$27.2D8.3A$26.2D
7.2A2.A$27.D8.A$35.A$35.2A3$3.2A$2.A.A$2.2A$17.3C$5.2A11.C$5.A10.3C$6.
3A$8.A!

[AlbertArmStain]

Yes, I know this is a double post, but I need to finish this:

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x = 13, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A$11.2A6$2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A7$2.C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C7$6.2A$2.2A.A.A$3.A.A
$2.A2.2A$3.2A$5.2A$5.A$6.A$5.2A!

[squareroot12621]

Is there a way to remove the object in red?

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x = 29, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$20.2A4$2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A22.2D$16.3D3.D5.D$18.D2.D5.D$15.D4.6D$14.
2D.2D2.D5.D$16.D5.D$4.D$2.E.D$2.EDE$2.E2C$4.C3$19.2A$19.2A3$10.2A$9.A
.A6.2A$9.A8.A.A$8.2A10.A$20.2A!

[AlbertArmStain]

can someone finish this one:

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x = 29, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.2A14$24.2A$C23.A.A$C.C23.A$3C23.2A$2.C21.2A2.A$25.A.2A$25.A$
24.2A$21.2A3.2A$21.A.3A2.A$22.A3.2A$23.A2.A$24.A.A$23.2A.2A4$9.2A$9.2A
4.2A$15.2A!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

can someone finish this one:

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x = 29, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
12.2A$12.2A14$24.2A$C23.A.A$C.C23.A$3C23.2A$2.C21.2A2.A$25.A.2A$25.A$
24.2A$21.2A3.2A$21.A.3A2.A$22.A3.2A$23.A2.A$24.A.A$23.2A.2A4$9.2A$9.2A
4.2A$15.2A!

Partial completion with a house:

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x = 29, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o14$24b2o$o23bobo$obo23bo$3o23b2o$2bo21b2o2bo$25bob2o$25bo$
24b2o$21b2o3b2o$21bob3o2bo$22bo3b2o$23bo2bo$24bobo$23b2ob2o4$6b2ob2o$
6bo3bo4b2o$7b3o5b2o$9bobo$10b2o!

[AlbertArmStain]

Partial completion with a house:

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x = 29, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o14$24b2o$o23bobo$obo23bo$3o23b2o$2bo21b2o2bo$25bob2o$25bo$
24b2o$21b2o3b2o$21bob3o2bo$22bo3b2o$23bo2bo$24bobo$23b2ob2o4$6b2ob2o$
6bo3bo4b2o$7b3o5b2o$9bobo$10b2o!

reduced by a single cell:

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x = 30, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o14$24b2o$o23bobo$obo23bo$3o23b2o$2bo21b2o2bo$25bob2o$25bo$
24b2o$21b2o$21bob3o$22bo3bo$23bo2bo$24bobob2o$23b2ob2obo4$6b2ob2o$6bo
3bo4b2o$7b3o5b2o$9bobo$10b2o!

EDIT:
Here's an old C-to-H-grandchild+junk:

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x = 30, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.2A$12.A2.A$13.2A2$19.2A$19.A.A$21.A$21.2A$9.3C$11.C$8.C.2C$8.2C!

[Disaster16439]

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x = 14, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo$7bobo$7b2o$2o$2o7$11b2o$8b2ob3o$4b2ob3ob2o$4b2o2b2ob3o$12b2o!

Known? Both blocks are transparent.

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x = 33, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bo$26bobo$26b2o$19b2o$19b2o$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o3$30b2o$27b2ob3o$
23b2ob3ob2o$23b2o2b2ob3o$31b2o!

This looks impossible to salvage(glider crashes into block whick we want to keep), but there might be a way along the lines of this:

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x = 33, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$6bo21b2o$6bobo19bo$7b2o17bobo$26b2o$19b2o$19b2o$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o3$
30b2o$27b2ob3o$23b2ob3ob2o$23b2o2b2ob3o$31b2o!

Found completely by hand.
Edit 1:
Also completely found by hand, progress? Annoying junk, though

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x = 27, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$22bo$20bobo$20b2o$13b2o$13b2o7$24b2o$21b2ob3o$17b2ob3ob2o$17b2o
2b2ob3o$25b2o14$2bobobob2o$bob2ob2obo$bo$2o!

[AlbertArmStain]

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x = 14, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo$7bobo$7b2o$2o$2o7$11b2o$8b2ob3o$4b2ob3ob2o$4b2o2b2ob3o$12b2o!

Known? Both blocks are transparent.

I haven't seen it anywhere so I'm guessing it's new.
Here are some partials I made from it:

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x = 130, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A48.2A48.2A$4.A49.A49.A$4.A.A47.A.A47.A.A$5.2A48.2A48.2A$12.2A48.2A
48.2A$12.2A48.2A48.2A7$.2A48.2A48.2A$3A.2A44.3A.2A44.3A.2A$.2A.3A.2A41.
2A.3A.2A41.2A.3A.2A$3A.2A2.2A40.3A.2A2.2A40.3A.2A2.2A$2A48.2A48.2A13$
65.A.2A$63.3A.2A7.2A$21.2A3.2A34.A13.A$22.A3.A36.3A.2A8.3A$19.3A5.3A35.
A.A11.A46.2A$19.A9.A35.A.A58.A$66.A60.3A$129.A!

[squareroot12621]

Partial completion with a house:

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x = 29, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12b2o14$24b2o$o23bobo$obo23bo$3o23b2o$2bo21b2o2bo$25bob2o$25bo$
24b2o$21b2o3b2o$21bob3o2bo$22bo3b2o$23bo2bo$24bobo$23b2ob2o4$6b2ob2o$
6bo3bo4b2o$7b3o5b2o$9bobo$10b2o!

If you wanted the SE glider:

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x = 62, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
45.2A$45.2A14$57.2A$33.C23.A.A$33.C.C23.A$33.3C23.2A$35.C21.2A2.A$58.
A.2A$58.A$57.2A$33.2A19.2A3.2A$34.A19.A.3A2.A$31.3A21.A3.2A$31.A24.A2.
A$57.A.A$52.D3.2A.2A$50.D.D$51.2D$3.2A$4.A34.2A.2A$4.A.A32.A3.A4.2A$5.
2A33.3A5.2A$42.A.A$43.2A2$6.2A$.2A3.2A$A2.A2$4.A$.A2.A11.2A$2.2A.2A3.
2A5.A$4.3A3.2A2.3A$5.A8.A$15.2A$16.A$5.2A9.A.A$5.2A10.2A!

[MathAndCode]

Here's an old C-to-H-grandchild+junk:

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x = 30, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.2A$12.A2.A$13.2A2$19.2A$19.A.A$21.A$21.2A$9.3C$11.C$8.C.2C$8.2C!

The hook predecessor is too close to the H-grandchild and too far from the wall of the reaction envelope so far for isolation to seem plausible, but I noticed that seventeen generations later, a Herschel descendant without the first natural glider appears that can be extracted in multiple ways.

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x = 167, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A$6.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A$7.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A2$
13.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A$13.A.A47.A.A47.A.A47.A.A$15.A49.A49.A49.A$15.2A48.
2A48.2A48.2A$3.3C47.3C47.3C47.3C$5.C49.C49.C49.C$2.C.2C46.C.2C46.C.2C
46.C.2C$2.2C48.2C48.2C48.2C7$11.2A148.2A$11.A.A147.A.A$13.A96.2A51.A$
2.2A9.2A95.A2.A49.2A$3.A44.2A51.2A9.2A43.2A.A$3A44.A.A7.2A.A39.A.A4.A
50.A.5A$A46.A9.2A.3A37.A5.A.A47.A.A5.A$46.2A15.A35.2A6.A48.2A2.2A$57.
2A.3A98.A$58.A.A99.A$58.A.A99.2A$59.A!

Actually, were you talking about the second one (which is actually the third)?



Edit: This gets rid of the Herschel's first block, which is useful because most conduits get rid of it with a fishhook that would not fit here.

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x = 15, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$4.A2.A$5.2A2$11.2A$11.A.A$13.A$13.2A$.3C$3.C$C.2C$2C18$7.2A$7.A.
A$9.A$9.2A!

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Here's an old C-to-H-grandchild+junk:

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x = 30, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.2A$12.A2.A$13.2A2$19.2A$19.A.A$21.A$21.2A$9.3C$11.C$8.C.2C$8.2C!

The hook predecessor is too close to the H-grandchild and too far from the wall of the reaction envelope so far for isolation to seem plausible, but I noticed that seventeen generations later, a Herschel descendant without the first natural glider appears that can be extracted in multiple ways.

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x = 167, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A$6.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A$7.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A2$
13.2A48.2A48.2A48.2A$13.A.A47.A.A47.A.A47.A.A$15.A49.A49.A49.A$15.2A48.
2A48.2A48.2A$3.3C47.3C47.3C47.3C$5.C49.C49.C49.C$2.C.2C46.C.2C46.C.2C
46.C.2C$2.2C48.2C48.2C48.2C7$11.2A148.2A$11.A.A147.A.A$13.A96.2A51.A$
2.2A9.2A95.A2.A49.2A$3.A44.2A51.2A9.2A43.2A.A$3A44.A.A7.2A.A39.A.A4.A
50.A.5A$A46.A9.2A.3A37.A5.A.A47.A.A5.A$46.2A15.A35.2A6.A48.2A2.2A$57.
2A.3A98.A$58.A.A99.A$58.A.A99.2A$59.A!

Actually, were you talking about the second one (which is actually the third)?



Edit: This gets rid of the Herschel's first block, which is useful because most conduits get rid of it with a fishhook that would not fit here.

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x = 15, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$4.A2.A$5.2A2$11.2A$11.A.A$13.A$13.2A$.3C$3.C$C.2C$2C18$7.2A$7.A.
A$9.A$9.2A!

My idea was to catalyse the top and hope that the propagation happens fast enough.
This snake doesn't last long, but definitely an idea.

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x = 36, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
2o29b2o$o30bo$bo27bobo$2o27b2o$22b2o$22b2o7$33b2o$30b2ob3o$26b2ob3ob2o
$26b2o2b2ob3o$34b2o14$11bobobob2o$10bob2ob2obo$10bo$9b2o!

Or, try to restore block

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x = 33, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$28bo$8b2o16bobo$8b2o16b2o$19b2o$19b2o$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o3$30b2o$27b
2ob3o$23b2ob3ob2o$23b2o2b2ob3o$31b2o!