Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

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Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » August 31st, 2024, 8:52 am

This thread is meant for reporting on new puffer engines that come from hassling active regions with sparkers.

Known examples are b-heptomino rakes, where XWSS hassle one (https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Space_rake) or two b-heptominoes (https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Backrake_3), or the PPSs, where TL predecessors are hassled (https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Pre-pulsar_spaceship).

Hotdogpi provided two batches of examples, mostly unsolved so far.

By systematically extending this research, we can hopefully fill some gaps in the list of known periods (https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Ga ... ip_periods).

Maybe this is an opportunity to find a new use for the tools developed to find the missing oscillator periods, catalysts being replaced with suitable sparking spaceships.

Obviously, you are also welcome to provide other known examples to illustrate the concept!

Edit1:

Here is another example of a Hotdogpi partial solved by Keith Amling:

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x = 57, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
24b3o3b3o$6b3o15bo2bobo2bo15b3o$5bo2bo8b3o3bo3bobo3bo3b3o8bo2bo$8bo7bo
2bo3b5ob5o3bo2bo7bo$4bo3bo4bo2b2o3bo2b3o3b3o2bo3b2o2bo4bo3bo$8b4obo2b
2o3bo4bo3bo4bo3b2o2bob4o$5bo2b4obo4b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o4bob4o2bo$9b2o5bo
23bo5b2o$13b6o19b6o$12b5o3bo15bo3b5o$10b2obo4bo19bo4bob2o$2bo9b3o27b3o
9bo$b3o6bo35bo6b3o$2o2bo3b2o37b2o3bo2b2o$bob3o2b3o35b3o2b3obo$2obobo2b
2o37b2o2bobob2o$3b3o45b3o$3b2o47b2o$5bo45bo!
Edit2: Links to partials

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2031&p=180445&hilit ... ls#p180445

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2031&p=143115&hilit ... ls#p143115

Edit3: Another link:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3316&p=156892&hili ... ls#p156892
Last edited by HartmutHolzwart on September 16th, 2024, 12:02 pm, edited 4 times in total.

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by hotdogPi » August 31st, 2024, 9:11 am

Did you get this switch engine-based one?

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x = 171, y = 171, rule = B3/S23
28bo$20bo7bo$20b3o5bo$22bobo3b2o$20bo2bo$20b2o2bo$8b2o$8b2o7$2o$2o$14b
2o3b2o$13bobo3b4o3bo$13bo3bo2bo2b2obo$13b2o3bo4b2obo$18bo3bo$17bo3$27b
o6b3o$27bob2o3b2o$27bobo5b2o$27bob3o$27b2o14$28bo$29b2ob2o12bo$29b2ob
o12bobo$31bo12bo3bo$44bo3bo$42b3obobo$41bo2bob2o$41bobo$42b2o8$24b2o$
20bo$22bo$20bobo$65b2o6bo$64bo3bo3bobo$35b3o26b2o3bobo3bo$34bo4bo8bo15b
2obobo2bobo$38b2o8b4o13b2o2bo3bo$34bo3bo25bo4bo$34bo30bo2bo$34bobo29b
o$34bo11bobo$32bo3b2o9bo$36b2o10b2o$35bobo8bo2bo$30bo5bo9b2ob2o2$30b2o
b2o$32b3o24bo$57bo2bo7b3o$56bo3bo5b2obobo$56bo3bo5b2obobo$56bo3b2o5bo
3bo$57bo2bo7bobo$69bo4$65bo$64bobo$64bobo$65bo5$57bo48bo$56bobo46bobo
$56bobo45bo3bo$57bo47bobo$89b3o14bo$88bo3bo$87bo2b3o10b4o$88bo3bo9bo4b
o$49bo39b3o13bo$48bobo30b2o7b2o9bo2bo3bo$48bobo29bo2bo18bob3obo$49bo31b
2o20bob3o3$89bo$88b5o$93bo$73b2o$40bo31bo2bo12bo3bo$40bo32b2o14b3o2$38b
3o$40bo$21bo3b2o10bob2o$21b2o13b2o66bo$37b2o26b2o29bo7bo$37bob2o23bo2b
o28b3o5bo$24bo12b5o23b2o31bobo3b2o17b3o$23bobo10bobo2b2o53bo2bo22bo3b
o$23bo12b2o3b3o52b2o2bo21b2o3bo$24bo2bo13b2o83bo$13b2o9bo3bo11b2o80b4o
$13b2o9b2obo12bo5bo73b2obo$24bo20b3o72bo2bo$24b3o17b5o72b2o$14b2o27b2o
3b2o2b3ob2o$14b2o32b2o2bobo49b2o$47b2obo3bo48b2o$46bob5o44b3o6bo$46b2o
3bo44bob2obo4bo37bobo$97bo8bo37b3o$93b2o5b4obo39b2o$93b2o32bo$93bo5bo
26b2o$94bo30bo17bo$94bobo29b2o15bobo$126b2o15b3o21bo$44bo83bo13bo24b4o
$43bobo96b5o$41bo10bo98b3o$41bobo3bo4bo59bo$41b5o2bo63bo38b2o12bobo$46b
2o103b2o13bo$51bo57b2o39bo2bo13b2o$51b2o100bo11bo2bo$109bobo40b3o10b2o
b2o$153b2o$150b2o$149bo2bo2$39b2o112b2o$39b2o2b2o106bo2bo$43b2o106b3o
4$163b2o$163b2o7$155b2o$155b2o!
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All evens ≤128 except 52,58,78,82,92,94,98,104,118,122

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1㊳㊵㊹㊼㊽,54,56,72,74,80,90,92
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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 1st, 2024, 7:30 am

This one from hotdogpi would solve a missing period for c/3, if completable:

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 x = 39, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
32b2o2$31bo$30b3o$29bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo3bo$o19bo4b3ob2o$o8b3o8bo4b2o3b
2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$30b2o4bo$29b2o$28bobo3bo$28b2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o5bo2b
2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o2$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o$2b2o8b2o8b2o5bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo
3bo$29b2o$30b2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$o8b3o8bo4b2o3b2o4bo$o19bo4b3ob2o$28b
obo3bo$28b2o$29bo2b2o$30b3o$31bo2$32b2o!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by confocaloid » September 1st, 2024, 7:38 am

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 1st, 2024, 7:30 am
This one from hotdogpi would solve a missing period for c/3, if completable:

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 x = 39, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
32b2o2$31bo$30b3o$29bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo3bo$o19bo4b3ob2o$o8b3o8bo4b2o3b
2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$30b2o4bo$29b2o$28bobo3bo$28b2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o5bo2b
2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o2$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o$2b2o8b2o8b2o5bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo
3bo$29b2o$30b2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$o8b3o8bo4b2o3b2o4bo$o19bo4b3ob2o$28b
obo3bo$28b2o$29bo2b2o$30b3o$31bo2$32b2o!
It seems to move 10 cells over 33 ticks, for a speed of 10c/33, am I missing something?

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x = 47, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
39b8o$39bob4obo$39b8o3$32b2o2$31bo$30b3o$29bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo3bo$o19b
o4b3ob2o$o8b3o8bo4b2o3b2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$30b2o4bo$29b2o$28bobo3bo$
28b2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o5bo2b2o$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o2$2b2o8b2o8b2o6b3o$2b2o8b2o
8b2o5bo2b2o$28b2o$28bobo3bo$29b2o$30b2o4bo$o19bo10b2o3b3o$o8b3o8bo4b2o
3b2o4bo$o19bo4b3ob2o$28bobo3bo$28b2o$29bo2b2o$30b3o$31bo2$32b2o3$39b8o
$39bob4obo$39b8o!
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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 1st, 2024, 7:41 am

You‘re obviously correct.

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 2nd, 2024, 5:12 am

One way to proceed would be to find „swimmer lanes“ where the active region swims through a channel bounded by catalysts and then in a second step replace those catalysts by suitable spaceships.

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 3rd, 2024, 10:00 am

8c/16 partial from hdp trivially solved via jslife-moving_master/velocity-c2/c2-extended/c2-0016.rle:

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x = 50, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
$6bo5bo25bo5bo$5b3o3b3o23b3o3b3o$4b2obo3bob2o21b2obo3bob2o$4bob2o3b2ob
o21bob2o3b2obo$2b2o2b7o2b2o17b2o2b7o2b2o$5bob5obo23bob5obo$4bo4bo4bo
21bo4bo4bo2$b3o11b3o15b3o11b3o$4b2o7b2o21b2o7b2o$b3o11b3o15b3o11b3o$b
2ob2o7b2ob2o15b2ob2o7b2ob2o$3bo5bo5bo19bo5bo5bo$4bo3b3o3bo21bo3b3o3bo$
7b5o27b5o$3bo11bo19bo11bo$4b4o3b4o21b4o3b4o$7b2ob2o27b2ob2o$8b3o29b3o$
6b2obob2o25b2obob2o$4b2obobobob2o21b2obobobob2o$4b2ob2ob2ob2o21b2ob2ob
2ob2o$3bo2bo5bo2bo19bo2bo5bo2bo$2b2o3bo3bo3b2o17b2o3bo3bo3b2o$3bo11bo
19bo11bo$7b2ob2o27b2ob2o$5b3o2bo29bo2b3o$6b3ob3o25b3ob3o$5b2o2b4o25b4o
2b2o2$5b2o37b2o$5b2o5bo25bo5b2o$5b2o3b2obo23bob2o3b2o$4b2o4bo2b2o21b2o
2bo4b2o$5bo2b3o2b2o21b2o2b3o2bo$6bo5b3o21b3o5bo$4bo5bo2b2o21b2o2bo5bo$
3bobo4bo2b2o21b2o2bo4bobo$3b5o5b3o19b3o5b5o$4b2o39b2o$3bo43bo$3b3o39b
3o$14b2o19b2o$13bo2bo17bo2bo$3b2o7b6o3b3o3b3o3b6o7b2o$2bo2bo6b6o3bo2bo
bo2bo3b6o6bo2bo$3b2o7b6o2bo3bobo3bo2b6o7b2o$13bo2bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo
2bo$14b2o19b2o$20b2obo3bob2o$22b2o3b2o$23bo3bo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » September 4th, 2024, 9:38 am

Maybe two other hdp partails are solvable with new technology (no new periods):

4c/8 near miss:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o2b3o$b3obo2bo$b2o2bo3bo$5b2o2b2o$7b3o$8bo!
2c/8d needs dot spark:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bo2$6b3o$5b2obo$6bo$3bo2b2o$ob4obo$2bo2b2o$2b2o!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by amling » February 13th, 2025, 3:27 am

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 4th, 2024, 9:38 am
4c/8 near miss:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o2b3o$b3obo2bo$b2o2bo3bo$5b2o2b2o$7b3o$8bo!
This is probably still a long way from anything resembling a "solution", but I was able to get this to period divide to 2c/4:

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x = 313, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
F4.33B.F4.33B.F3.33B2.F3.33B2.F2.33B3.F2.33B3.F.33B4.F.33B4.F$F4.33B.
F4.33B.F3.33B2.F3.33B2.F2.33B3.F2.33B3.F.33B4.F.33B4.F$F4.33B.F4.33B.
F3.25BA7B2.F3.25B2A6B2.F2.27BA5B3.F2.33B3.F.33B4.F.33B4.F$F4.24BA8B.F
4.23B3A7B.F3.23B4A6B2.F3.23B4A6B2.F2.23BA9B3.F2.33B3.F.33B4.F.33B4.F$
F4.23B3A7B.F4.22B2A2BA6B.F3.22BA4BA5B2.F3.22B4AB2A4B2.F2.22BA6BA3B3.F
2.22BA10B3.F.22B2A9B4.F.22B3A8B4.F$F4.21B2A2B2A6B.F4.21B3A2BA6B.F3.
21BA5B2A4B2.F3.21B2A3B3A4B2.F2.21BA3BA7B3.F2.21B2A10B3.F.21BAB2A8B4.F
.21BA2BA8B4.F$F4.21BA3BA7B.F4.20B2A2B3A6B.F3.21BA5BA5B2.F3.20B2A4B2A
5B2.F2.21BA3BA7B3.F2.20B2A2B2A7B3.F.21BA2BA8B4.F.20B2A2BA8B4.F$F4.21B
A2BA8B.F4.21BA2B2A7B.F3.21B2A4BA5B2.F3.21B5ABA5B2.F2.21B2ABA3BA4B3.F
2.21B2A10B3.F.21B3A9B4.F.21B3A9B4.F$F4.22B3A8B.F4.22B3A8B.F3.23B4A6B
2.F3.23BAB2A6B2.F2.28BA4B3.F2.28BA4B3.F.33B4.F.22BA10B4.F$F4.33B.F4.
33B.F3.23BABA7B2.F3.23BAB2A6B2.F2.26B2A5B3.F2.27BA5B3.F.33B4.F.33B4.F
$F4.13BA2BABAB3A10B.F4.15B2A3BA2BA9B.F3.15BAB2ABA12B2.F3.12BABABA16B
2.F2.13BA2BABAB2A11B3.F2.15B2A3BA12B3.F.15BAB2ABABA10B4.F.12BABABA16B
4.F$F4.12BA2B2ABAB4A9B.F4.11B2AB3ABABA2BA9B.F3.11B3ABA6BA10B2.F3.12B
2A2BAB4A11B2.F2.12BA2B2ABAB4A9B3.F2.11B2AB3ABABAB2A9B3.F.11B3ABA7BA9B
4.F.12B2A2BAB5A10B4.F$F4.11B2ABA3BA5BA8B.F4.9B2ABABABABA3B4A7B.F3.9BA
3BA5BABA4B2A5B2.F3.11BABA7BABA9B2.F2.11B2ABA3BA5BA8B3.F2.9B2ABABABABA
3B4A7B3.F.9BA3BA5BABA4B2A5B4.F.11BABA7BABA9B4.F$F4.8B3ABABA2BAB2A4B2A
6B.F4.8B3ABAB2ABA2B2ABAB2A6B.F3.4B2A3BABABABA3BAB2ABA8B2.F3.3BA2BAB2A
BABABA2B2AB2ABAB2A5B2.F2.8B3ABABA2BAB2A4B2A6B3.F2.8B3ABAB2ABA2B2ABAB
2A6B3.F.4B2A3BABABABA3BAB2ABA8B4.F.3BA2BAB2ABABABA2B2AB2ABAB2A5B4.F$F
4.3B2A4BA2BABA3BABAB2ABABA5B.F4.2B4ABA4BA2B2ABABA4BABA5B.F3.3B4ABAB2A
B3A3BA3B2ABA6B2.F3.2BA5BAB2ABABABAB3A2BA8B2.F2.3B2A4BA2BABA3BABAB2ABA
BA5B3.F2.2B4ABA4BA2B2ABABA4BABA5B3.F.3B4ABAB2AB3A3BA3B2ABA6B4.F.2BA5B
AB2ABABABAB3A2BA8B4.F$F4.2B2AB2ABA2BA4B2A2BA4BA2BA4B.F4.2BA3B2A3BA4B
2AB2A2B2A8B.F3.2B2AB4A3BA3B3A3BABA4BA3B2.F3.2BA5BABA3B3A7B2A7B2.F2.2B
2AB2ABA2BA4B2A2BA4BA2BA4B3.F2.2BA3B2A3BA4B2AB2A2B2A8B3.F.2B2AB4A3BA3B
3A3BABA4BA3B4.F.2BA5BABA3B3A7B2A7B4.F$F4.3B4A5B5A4B2A4B4A2B.F4.2BA8BA
BA5BABA2B2ABABA3B.F3.3B2A3BA2B2A4B2ABA6BA5B2.F3.2B5A4B3A6B2A3B4A4B2.F
2.3B4A5B5A4B2A4B4A2B3.F2.2BA8BABA5BABA2B2ABABA3B3.F.3B2A3BA2B2A4B2ABA
6BA5B4.F.2B5A4B3A6B2A3B4A4B4.F$F4.4B2A2BA2BABAB2A2B2A3B2ABA5B.F4.3BA
4BA2BA5BABA4B2A7B.F3.8B2A2BA2BA3BABA3B2ABA4B2.F3.12BA6BABA2BA3B2A3B2.
F2.4B2A2BA2BABAB2A2B2A3B2ABA5B3.F2.3BA4BA2BA5BABA4B2A7B3.F.8B2A2BA2BA
3BABA3B2ABA4B4.F.12BA6BABA2BA3B2A3B4.F$F4.7B2A2B2A2B2A2B2A4B2ABA4B.F
4.5B2AB4A2B2A11B2A4B.F3.6B2AB2A8BABA2B5ABA2B2.F3.6B2AB2A3B3AB2AB2ABA
3B2A3B2.F2.7B2A2B2A2B2A2B2A4B2ABA4B3.F2.5B2AB4A2B2A11B2A4B3.F.6B2AB2A
8BABA2B5ABA2B4.F.6B2AB2A3B3AB2AB2ABA3B2A3B4.F$F4.6BABA2BA5B3AB2A2BA3B
A3B.F4.6BA4B2A6BAB2ABA2B3A3B.F3.5BA8B2ABA2BABA3BA6B2.F3.5BAB4A2B2A5B
2AB2A3BA4B2.F2.6BABA2BA5B3AB2A2BA3BA3B3.F2.6BA4B2A6BAB2ABA2B3A3B3.F.
5BA8B2ABA2BABA3BA6B4.F.5BAB4A2B2A5B2AB2A3BA4B4.F$F4.5BABAB2A3BAB2A4BA
2B2A2BA3B.F4.4B2ABABAB2A2B2A2B2A4B2AB2A3B.F3.5B2A2BA2B2A10BAB2A5B2.F
3.4BA8B3A2BA5BABABA4B2.F2.5BABAB2A3BAB2A4BA2B2A2BA3B3.F2.4B2ABABAB2A
2B2A2B2A4B2AB2A3B3.F.5B2A2BA2B2A10BAB2A5B4.F.4BA8B3A2BA5BABABA4B4.F$F
4.4B2A3BABABA2BA3BAB2ABA2BA4B.F4.5BA3BA8B2ABABABA2BA4B.F3.5B2A9B3A4B
2A2B2A4B2.F3.4B2A9BABA4B2A4B2A3B2.F2.4B2A3BABABA2BA3BAB2ABA2BA4B3.F2.
5BA3BA8B2ABABABA2BA4B3.F.5B2A9B3A4B2A2B2A4B4.F.4B2A9BABA4B2A4B2A3B4.F
!
Or in pd-fold 2 view (shows ten rows of 2c/4):

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|  ................................. |  ................................. | .................................  | .................................  |
|  ................................. |  ................................. | .................................  | .................................  |
|  ...........................x..... |  ................................. | .........................o.......  | .........................oo......  |
|  .......................xo........ |  .......................ooo....... | .......................oooo......  | .......................oooo......  |
|  ......................xooo...x... |  ......................*o..o...... | ......................*x...o.....  | ......................***o.oo....  |
|  .....................*o..*o...... |  .....................**o..o...... | .....................*.xx..oo....  | .....................*o.x.ooo....  |
|  .....................*...*....... |  ....................**..**o...... | .....................*..x..o.....  | ....................**..x.oo.....  |
|  .....................*x.*...x.... |  .....................*x.oo....... | .....................**x...o.....  | .....................***oo.o.....  |
|  ......................ooo...x.... |  ......................ooo...x.... | .......................oooo......  | ......................xo.oo......  |
|  ..........................xx..... |  ...........................x..... | .......................o.o.......  | .......................o.oo......  |
|  .............*..*.*.**o.......... |  ...............**...*..o......... | ...............*.**.*.x..........  | ............*.*.*................  |
|  ............*..**.*.****......... |  ...........**.***.*.*.x*......... | ...........***.*......ox.........  | ............**..*.****x..........  |
|  ...........**.*...*.....*........ |  .........**.*.*.*.*...****....... | .........*...*.....*.*....**.....  | ...........*.*.......*.*.........  |
|  ........***.*.*..*.**....**...... |  ........***.*.**.*..**.*.**...... | ....**...*.*.*.*...*.**.*........  | ...*..*.**.*.*.*..**.**.*.**.....  |
|  ...**....*..*.*...*.*.**.*.*..... |  ..****.*....*..**.*.*....*.*..... | ...****.*.**.***...*...**.*......  | ..*.....*.**.*.*.*.***..*........  |
|  ..**.**.*..*....**..*....*..*.... |  ..*...**...*....**.**..**........ | ..**.****...*...***...*.*....*...  | ..*.....*.*...***.......**.......  |
|  ...****.....*****....**....****.. |  ..*........*.*.....*.*..**.*.*... | ...**...*..**....**.*......*.....  | ..*****....***......**...****....  |
|  ....**..*..*.*.**..**...**.*..... |  ...*....*..*.....*.*....**....... | ........**..*..*...*.*...**.*....  | ............*......*.*..*...**...  |
|  .......**..**..**..**....**.*.... |  .....**.****..**...........**.... | ......**.**........*.*..*****.*..  | ......**.**...***.**.**.*...**...  |
|  ......*.*..*.....***.**..*...*... |  ......*....**......*.**.*..***... | .....*........**.*..*.*...*......  | .....*.****..**.....**.**...*....  |
|  .....*.*.**...*.**....*..**..*... |  ....**.*.*.**..**..**....**.**... | .....**..*..**..........*.**.....  | ....*........***..*.....*.*.*....  |
|  ....**...*.*.*..*...*.**.*..*.... |  .....*...*........**.*.*.*..*.... | .....**.........***....**..**....  | ....**.........*.*....**....**...  |
Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to proceed. 60 GB is not enough to run the next biggest search and none of the SRV2 partials were particularly good-looking.

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 13th, 2025, 6:09 pm

What’s the definition of “medium puffer period” here?
wherever I go on the internet I bring with myself nothing but problems.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by Timelord Missionary » February 13th, 2025, 7:30 pm

hotcrystal0 wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 6:09 pm
What’s the definition of “medium puffer period” here?
I think it means ones that aren't such that it would be easy just because it is very low period or very high period. Low-period ones are easy because there are fewer cases to worry about (think the vast majority of spaceships). High-period ones are easy-ish because there is more space to hassle a spaceship that goes faster than it to make stuff that stalls for some time and makes/incrementally constructs a spaceship that catches back up to the spaceship convoy and starts the whole thing back up again. For examples of the latter, see Weekender distaff, the puffer in 2c/5 orthogonal, or even the thread on c/10 constructions.
Helloshe, I like pentadecathlons and small-period motifs.
I may not be very skilled in search programs, but I have many ideas.
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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by amling » February 13th, 2025, 11:39 pm

amling wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 3:27 am
HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 4th, 2024, 9:38 am
4c/8 near miss:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o$ob2o$b3o2b3o$b3obo2bo$b2o2bo3bo$5b2o2b2o$7b3o$8bo!
This is probably still a long way from anything resembling a "solution", but I was able to get this to period divide to 2c/4...

...

Unfortunately I'm not really sure how to proceed. 60 GB is not enough to run the next biggest search and none of the SRV2 partials were particularly good-looking.
This was from just a single rotor I had taken from the original engagement searches. I ran the real rotor tree pipeline and it did much, much better. I still made somewhat of a mess solving all the branches:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 88, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
79bo$75b2ob3o$73b2obo3b2o$73bo4bo2b2o$72b2obo5bo$70b2obo7b2o$71bo7bobo
b2o$68b2obob2o3b2obobo$68b2obo5bo3bobob2o$68bo2bobo7bo3b2o$67b2obo6b2o
3bob3o$69b2obo13b2o$67b2o4bo$68b2o2bo$69bo$2b3o63bo3b2o$2bo2bo60bo7bo$
2bo61b2obo5bo$2bo47bo12bo3bo$3bobo6bo9bo9bo9bo6b3o10b2obo$11b3o7b3o7b
3o7b3o4b2obo8b2obobo$6b2ob2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o3bobo10bobob2o$4b
2ob2ob2o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b2obo2b2o3bo7b2obobo$9b3o3b3o2b2o3b3o2b2o
3b3o2b2o3bo5b2o5b2obo2bobo5b3o$3bob5o2bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo8b2o2bo
3bobobo2bo2bo4bo2bo$3bo2bobo33b3o3b2o3bo3bobobo3b3o4bo$3b2o35bo8bobob
2o6b2o2bob2o3bo3bo$2b3o19bo19b7o2bo4b4o10bo3bo$6bo16b3o5b3o11b4o4b2o4b
o6b3o3bo$5b2o16bob2o4bo2bo20bo9b3o5bobo$4b2o18b3o4bo2bo18bob3o7b2o$4b
3o17b3o3bobob2o17bo2b2o8b2obo$3bobo18b3ob2obo2bo19bob2o8b2o2b3o$b2o21b
2o2b3obob2o31b2obob2o$bo26bo2b2o2bo17b2o15bobob2o$3o30b2o3b3o15b2o9b2o
bo2bob2o$2o32bo3bo2bo13bo10bo3bobobo2bo$b2o34bo3bo9b3o3bo12bobo$37bo
12bo3bo15bo2bo2b2o$43b3o7b2obo10bo2bo$37bobo3bo2bo2bo2bob2o10b2obo$37b
2o4bo2bo3bobo13b2o5b3o$40bo5b2o4bo14b2o3bo2bo$40b2o4b2o5b2o13bo6bo$35b
o6b2o2b2o5b2o2b3o7bobobo3bo$34b3o4b2o5bob2obo3bo2bo7b4o3bo$34bob2o3b2o
7b3o8bo8bo2b2o$35b3o5bo5b3o5bo11bo$35b2o3b3o7b2o6b2o$39bo3bo3b2o6bo$
38b2o2bo2b4o6bo6bo$42bo4bo8b2o$38b2o2bo5b2o10bo$39bo2bo$43bobo$39b2o$
34b3obo$34bo2b4o$34bo3bo$34bo3bo$34bo$35bobo!
or

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 78, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
47bo$46b3o$46bob2o$47b3o$36b3o8b3o$30bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo$
28b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2o
bo6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o$46b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo$53b
4ob3ob2o$54bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5b
o$39bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o
2b3o$49b2o8bo3bobo3bo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b3o8bo$39b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob
2o5bo$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b2o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo4bo$41bo3b3obobo
2b2o5bo5bo6bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo9b2o$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o8bo$42b2o6b2o
7bo2bo$43bobobo3bobo3bob3o$42b2obob2o7b2obobo$46b7o7bobo2b3o$51bo9bo3b
o2bo$5b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo$4bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o$3b2o4bo
11bo4b2o12bo2b2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo$2bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b
3o4bob2o$b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o
4bo15bo3bo3b4o$32b2o2bo22bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob2o13bobo8b2o6b3o$31bo34bo2b
o4bo2bo$68b2o7bo$66bo4bobo3bo$65bob7o3bo$64b2o4b3o2b2o$65bo2bo$65bo$
65bo$65bo$66bobo!
Both are the same rotor which works as a ship in its own right and is acting as a catalyst of sorts here. For comparison, here is the last generation T=0 before the interaction starts. It takes until generation T=7 for the ship to recover and match again.

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x = 165, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
47bo86bo$46b3o84b3o$46bob2o83bob2o$47b3o84b3o$36b3o8b3o73b3o8b3o$30bo
4bo2bo4b2o2b2o68bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo72b3o3bo3bo3bo$28b2obo
3bo2b5o72b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo63b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o
7b3o52b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2obo6bo2bo53b2o3b2o10bo2b2obo
6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo66bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o65b8o10bob2o$46b
4ob5o3b2o3bo68b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo75b3obo6bo$53b4ob3ob2o76b4ob3ob
2o$54bo86bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo61b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o
61bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5bo61bo6bo2bo7b2o5bo$39bo3bo2bo2bo
4b2ob2o67bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o59bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o
$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o60bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o2b3o$49b2o8bo3bob2o
69b2o8bo3bob2obo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b4o65bo2b3obo6bo3b4o2bo3bo$39b3o3bob
2o2bobob3o2bob2o62b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob2o4b2o2b2o$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3b
o61bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b3o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo65bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo
8bo$41bo3b3obobo2b2o5bo66bo3b3obobo2b2o5bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo66bobo2bob
o5bo6bo$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o66bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o$42b2o6b2o7bo2bo66b2o
6b2o7bo2bo$43bobobo3bobo3bob3o68bobobo3bobo3bob3o$42b2obob2o7b2obobo
67b2obob2o7b2obobo$46b7o7bobo2b3o65b7o7bobo2b3o$51bo9bo3bo2bo69bo9bo3b
o2bo$5b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo23b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo$4bo3bo13bo3bo
14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o21bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o$3b2o4bo11bo4b2o12bo2b
2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo23b2o4bo11bo4b2o12bo2b2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo$2bobob2ob2o3b3o
3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b3o4bob2o21bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b
3o4bob2o$b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o22b2obo4bob2ob3o
b2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o22b
o4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo32bo
5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o4bo15bo3bo3b4o20b2o7b2o9b
2o7b2o2b2o4bo15bo3bo3b4o$32b2o2bo22bo5b2o52b2o2bo22bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob
2o13bobo8b2o6b3o39bo2bo5bob2o13bobo8b2o6b3o$31bo34bo2bo4bo2bo40bo34bo
2bo4bo2bo$68b2o7bo77b2o7bo$66bo4bobo3bo75bo4bobo3bo$65bob7o3bo74bob7o
3bo$64b2o4b3o2b2o74b2o4b3o2b2o$65bo2bo83bo2bo$65bo86bo$65bo86bo$65bo
86bo$66bobo84bobo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by Timelord Missionary » February 14th, 2025, 12:05 am

amling wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 11:39 pm
[...]
This was from just a single rotor I had taken from the original engagement searches. I ran the real rotor tree pipeline and it did much, much better. I still made somewhat of a mess solving all the branches:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 88, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
79bo$75b2ob3o$73b2obo3b2o$73bo4bo2b2o$72b2obo5bo$70b2obo7b2o$71bo7bobo
b2o$68b2obob2o3b2obobo$68b2obo5bo3bobob2o$68bo2bobo7bo3b2o$67b2obo6b2o
3bob3o$69b2obo13b2o$67b2o4bo$68b2o2bo$69bo$2b3o63bo3b2o$2bo2bo60bo7bo$
2bo61b2obo5bo$2bo47bo12bo3bo$3bobo6bo9bo9bo9bo6b3o10b2obo$11b3o7b3o7b
3o7b3o4b2obo8b2obobo$6b2ob2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o3bobo10bobob2o$4b
2ob2ob2o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b2obo2b2o3bo7b2obobo$9b3o3b3o2b2o3b3o2b2o
3b3o2b2o3bo5b2o5b2obo2bobo5b3o$3bob5o2bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo8b2o2bo
3bobobo2bo2bo4bo2bo$3bo2bobo33b3o3b2o3bo3bobobo3b3o4bo$3b2o35bo8bobob
2o6b2o2bob2o3bo3bo$2b3o19bo19b7o2bo4b4o10bo3bo$6bo16b3o5b3o11b4o4b2o4b
o6b3o3bo$5b2o16bob2o4bo2bo20bo9b3o5bobo$4b2o18b3o4bo2bo18bob3o7b2o$4b
3o17b3o3bobob2o17bo2b2o8b2obo$3bobo18b3ob2obo2bo19bob2o8b2o2b3o$b2o21b
2o2b3obob2o31b2obob2o$bo26bo2b2o2bo17b2o15bobob2o$3o30b2o3b3o15b2o9b2o
bo2bob2o$2o32bo3bo2bo13bo10bo3bobobo2bo$b2o34bo3bo9b3o3bo12bobo$37bo
12bo3bo15bo2bo2b2o$43b3o7b2obo10bo2bo$37bobo3bo2bo2bo2bob2o10b2obo$37b
2o4bo2bo3bobo13b2o5b3o$40bo5b2o4bo14b2o3bo2bo$40b2o4b2o5b2o13bo6bo$35b
o6b2o2b2o5b2o2b3o7bobobo3bo$34b3o4b2o5bob2obo3bo2bo7b4o3bo$34bob2o3b2o
7b3o8bo8bo2b2o$35b3o5bo5b3o5bo11bo$35b2o3b3o7b2o6b2o$39bo3bo3b2o6bo$
38b2o2bo2b4o6bo6bo$42bo4bo8b2o$38b2o2bo5b2o10bo$39bo2bo$43bobo$39b2o$
34b3obo$34bo2b4o$34bo3bo$34bo3bo$34bo$35bobo!
or

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 78, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
47bo$46b3o$46bob2o$47b3o$36b3o8b3o$30bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo$
28b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2o
bo6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o$46b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo$53b
4ob3ob2o$54bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5b
o$39bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o
2b3o$49b2o8bo3bobo3bo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b3o8bo$39b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob
2o5bo$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b2o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo4bo$41bo3b3obobo
2b2o5bo5bo6bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo9b2o$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o8bo$42b2o6b2o
7bo2bo$43bobobo3bobo3bob3o$42b2obob2o7b2obobo$46b7o7bobo2b3o$51bo9bo3b
o2bo$5b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo$4bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o$3b2o4bo
11bo4b2o12bo2b2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo$2bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b
3o4bob2o$b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o
4bo15bo3bo3b4o$32b2o2bo22bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob2o13bobo8b2o6b3o$31bo34bo2b
o4bo2bo$68b2o7bo$66bo4bobo3bo$65bob7o3bo$64b2o4b3o2b2o$65bo2bo$65bo$
65bo$65bo$66bobo!
[...]
Awesome! What you manage to do amazes me. Here is a reduction to the first one:

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x = 78, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
69bo$65b2ob3o$63b2obo3b2o$63bo4bo2b2o$62b2obo5bo$60b2obo7b2o$61bo7bob
ob2o$58b2obob2o3b2obobo$58b2obo5bo3bobob2o$58bo2bobo7bo3b2o$57b2obo6b
2o3bob3o$59b2obo13b2o$57b2o4bo$58b2o2bo$59bo$2b3o53bo3b2o$2bo2bo50bo7b
o$2bo51b2obo5bo$2bo37bo12bo3bo$3bobo6bo9bo9bo6b3o10b2obo$11b3o7b3o7b3o
4b2obo8b2obobo$6b2ob2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o3bobo10bobob2o$4b2ob2ob2o3b2o2b
3o3b2o2b2obo2b2o3bo7b2obobo$9b3o3b3o2b2o3b3o2b2o3bo5b2o5b2obo2bobo5b3o
$3bob5o2bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo8b2o2bo3bobobo2bo2bo4bo2bo$3bo2bobo23b3o3b2o
3bo3bobobo3b3o4bo$3b2o25bo8bobob2o6b2o2bob2o3bo3bo$2b3o9bo19b7o2bo4b4o
10bo3bo$6bo6b3o5b3o11b4o4b2o4bo6b3o3bo$5b2o6bob2o4bo2bo20bo9b3o5bobo$
4b2o8b3o4bo2bo18bob3o7b2o$4b3o7b3o3bobob2o17bo2b2o8b2obo$3bobo8b3ob2o
bo2bo19bob2o8b2o2b3o$b2o11b2o2b3obob2o31b2obob2o$bo16bo2b2o2bo17b2o15b
obob2o$3o20b2o3b3o15b2o9b2obo2bob2o$2o22bo3bo2bo13bo10bo3bobobo2bo$b2o
24bo3bo9b3o3bo12bobo$27bo12bo3bo15bo2bo2b2o$33b3o7b2obo10bo2bo$27bobo
3bo2bo2bo2bob2o10b2obo$27b2o4bo2bo3bobo13b2o5b3o$30bo5b2o4bo14b2o3bo2b
o$30b2o4b2o5b2o13bo6bo$25bo6b2o2b2o5b2o2b3o7bobobo3bo$24b3o4b2o5bob2o
bo3bo2bo7b4o3bo$24bob2o3b2o7b3o8bo8bo2b2o$25b3o5bo5b3o5bo11bo$25b2o3b
3o7b2o6b2o$29bo3bo3b2o6bo$28b2o2bo2b4o6bo6bo$32bo4bo8b2o$28b2o2bo5b2o
10bo$29bo2bo$33bobo$29b2o$24b3obo$24bo2b4o$24bo3bo$24bo3bo$24bo$25bob
o!
Helloshe, I like pentadecathlons and small-period motifs.
I may not be very skilled in search programs, but I have many ideas.
Soli Deo Gloria!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by LuveelVoom » February 14th, 2025, 12:05 am

amling wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 11:39 pm

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 88, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
79bo$75b2ob3o$73b2obo3b2o$73bo4bo2b2o$72b2obo5bo$70b2obo7b2o$71bo7bobo
b2o$68b2obob2o3b2obobo$68b2obo5bo3bobob2o$68bo2bobo7bo3b2o$67b2obo6b2o
3bob3o$69b2obo13b2o$67b2o4bo$68b2o2bo$69bo$2b3o63bo3b2o$2bo2bo60bo7bo$
2bo61b2obo5bo$2bo47bo12bo3bo$3bobo6bo9bo9bo9bo6b3o10b2obo$11b3o7b3o7b
3o7b3o4b2obo8b2obobo$6b2ob2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o4b2ob3o3bobo10bobob2o$4b
2ob2ob2o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b3o3b2o2b2obo2b2o3bo7b2obobo$9b3o3b3o2b2o3b3o2b2o
3b3o2b2o3bo5b2o5b2obo2bobo5b3o$3bob5o2bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b2o2bo8b2o2bo
3bobobo2bo2bo4bo2bo$3bo2bobo33b3o3b2o3bo3bobobo3b3o4bo$3b2o35bo8bobob
2o6b2o2bob2o3bo3bo$2b3o19bo19b7o2bo4b4o10bo3bo$6bo16b3o5b3o11b4o4b2o4b
o6b3o3bo$5b2o16bob2o4bo2bo20bo9b3o5bobo$4b2o18b3o4bo2bo18bob3o7b2o$4b
3o17b3o3bobob2o17bo2b2o8b2obo$3bobo18b3ob2obo2bo19bob2o8b2o2b3o$b2o21b
2o2b3obob2o31b2obob2o$bo26bo2b2o2bo17b2o15bobob2o$3o30b2o3b3o15b2o9b2o
bo2bob2o$2o32bo3bo2bo13bo10bo3bobobo2bo$b2o34bo3bo9b3o3bo12bobo$37bo
12bo3bo15bo2bo2b2o$43b3o7b2obo10bo2bo$37bobo3bo2bo2bo2bob2o10b2obo$37b
2o4bo2bo3bobo13b2o5b3o$40bo5b2o4bo14b2o3bo2bo$40b2o4b2o5b2o13bo6bo$35b
o6b2o2b2o5b2o2b3o7bobobo3bo$34b3o4b2o5bob2obo3bo2bo7b4o3bo$34bob2o3b2o
7b3o8bo8bo2b2o$35b3o5bo5b3o5bo11bo$35b2o3b3o7b2o6b2o$39bo3bo3b2o6bo$
38b2o2bo2b4o6bo6bo$42bo4bo8b2o$38b2o2bo5b2o10bo$39bo2bo$43bobo$39b2o$
34b3obo$34bo2b4o$34bo3bo$34bo3bo$34bo$35bobo!
obvious reduction:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 95, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
23$82b3o$78b5o2bo$77b2obobo3bo$79bo6bo$75bobo6bo$74b2ob2o6bobo$73bobo
b2o3b2obob2o$72b2obo6b2obobobo$71bo3bob2o3bo2bo3b2o$75b2o4b2o2bobo3bo
$71b2obobo11bo$74b2o14b2o$71bo2b4o$71bobo$17bo55bo2b2o$16b3o58bo$16bo
b2o49b3o4bobo$17b3o48b2obo$17b2o34b3o10b2obo$25b3o7b3o7b3o5bo2bo8bobo
bo$20bo3bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo3bo11b2obob2o$19bob2obo4bo3b2o4bo3b2o4bo2b3o
8bobobo$18b2o3bobo4b2o3bo4b2o3b5ob2o2bo6b2obobob2o6bo$18b2ob2o3bo3bo5b
o3bo5b2o2bobo2b2o4bo3bo5bo4b3o$17bo4bo4bo4b2o3bo5bobo2b5o2b3o3bobobo3b
3o4bob2o$17bo3bo27bo3bobobo4b2ob2obo8b3o$16b2o27bo3b5o3bo5b2o6bobo3b3o
$19bo7b3o6bo11bo8b2o18b3o$20b2o4bo2bo5b3o24bo3bobob2o5b2o$19bo9bo5bob
2o18b3o10bo2bo$18b2o5bo3bo8bo18bob2obo8bobo$16bo3bo4bo3bo3bobo2bo21bo
10bo2b2o$16bo12bo2b3obob2o18bo12b2obob2o$15bo4bo5bobo7bo20bo3bo12bo3b
o$14bo4bo12bo4bobo3bo13bo3bo9b2obobo2b2o$15bobo20bo3b3o15bo10b2obobo3b
o$15b2o25bob2o10bo2b3o9b2obobob3o$39bo2b2o11b2obobo11bobobo3b2o$15b2o
25b2o4bo5b2ob2obo10b3o$41b2o4b3o4b2o3bo11bobo$41bo4bo2b2o3bo15bo7bo$44b
o5bo4bobo13bobo3b3o$44b2o4bo6bo14bo3b2obo$46bo4bo3bobo4bo13b3o$38b3o5b
obo2bo3bobo3b3o7b3obob2o$37bo2bo5bo6bo2bo4bob2o9bo3bo$40bo5b2o6bo4b3o
2b2o5b2o$40bo4b2o4bo2bo6bo2b2o8bo2bo$37bobo3b2o3bo3bobo4b3o2b3o$43b4o
2bo2bo6b2ob2ob2o$41bo4bob2obo2bo6b4o$42b3o2b3o2b2o9b2o$47b3o$47b2o$43b
o$39bo3b2o$38b3o2b2o$38bob2o$39b3o$39b3o$39b2o!
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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by dbell » February 14th, 2025, 1:41 am

amling wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 11:39 pm

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 78, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
47bo$46b3o$46bob2o$47b3o$36b3o8b3o$30bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo$
28b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2o
bo6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o$46b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo$53b
4ob3ob2o$54bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5b
o$39bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o
2b3o$49b2o8bo3bobo3bo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b3o8bo$39b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob
2o5bo$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b2o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo4bo$41bo3b3obobo
2b2o5bo5bo6bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo9b2o$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o8bo$42b2o6b2o
7bo2bo$43bobobo3bobo3bob3o$42b2obob2o7b2obobo$46b7o7bobo2b3o$51bo9bo3b
o2bo$5b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo$4bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o$3b2o4bo
11bo4b2o12bo2b2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo$2bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b
3o4bob2o$b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o
4bo15bo3bo3b4o$32b2o2bo22bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob2o13bobo8b2o6b3o$31bo34bo2b
o4bo2bo$68b2o7bo$66bo4bobo3bo$65bob7o3bo$64b2o4b3o2b2o$65bo2bo$65bo$
65bo$65bo$66bobo!
That's a nice period 8 spark. It would be nice if it was at the edge of the spaceship. Is there any chance of bending that bottom branch to the left out of the way?

BCNU,
-dbell

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by amling » February 14th, 2025, 3:09 am

dbell wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 1:41 am
amling wrote:
February 13th, 2025, 11:39 pm

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 78, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
47bo$46b3o$46bob2o$47b3o$36b3o8b3o$30bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo$
28b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2o
bo6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o$46b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo$53b
4ob3ob2o$54bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5b
o$39bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o
2b3o$49b2o8bo3bobo3bo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b3o8bo$39b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob
2o5bo$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b2o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo4bo$41bo3b3obobo
2b2o5bo5bo6bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo9b2o$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo3b2o8bo$42b2o6b2o
7bo2bo$43bobobo3bobo3bob3o$42b2obob2o7b2obobo$46b7o7bobo2b3o$51bo9bo3b
o2bo$5b3o15b3o16bo9bo7b2obo4bo$4bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o11b6ob2o$3b2o4bo
11bo4b2o12bo2b2ob2o3b2o10bo2bo$2bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo3b
3o4bob2o$b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo3bo2bo4b2o$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo
3bo4bo4bo4bo18bo3b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo11bo3bo4bobo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o
4bo15bo3bo3b4o$32b2o2bo22bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob2o13bobo8b2o6b3o$31bo34bo2b
o4bo2bo$68b2o7bo$66bo4bobo3bo$65bob7o3bo$64b2o4b3o2b2o$65bo2bo$65bo$
65bo$65bo$66bobo!
That's a nice period 8 spark. It would be nice if it was at the edge of the spaceship. Is there any chance of bending that bottom branch to the left out of the way?

BCNU,
-dbell
I'm not convinced it's as nice as it looks: the sparks are survivals from previous generation so whatever they're sparking sort of has to come to them. I pulled it in a bit but that back had given me some trouble and I'm not super excited about chasing down the exact minimum number of columns right I need to complete the tail:

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -1/2 ]]
x = 75, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
47bo$46b3o$46bob2o$47b3o$36b3o8b3o$30bo4bo2bo4b2o2b2o$29b3o3bo3bo3bo$
28b2obo3bo2b5o$28b3o4bo4b4o7bo$28b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o7b3o$29b2o3b2o10bo2b2o
bo6bo2bo$44bo2b2o2bo7bo4bo$44b8o10bob2o$46b4ob5o3b2o3bo$52b3obo6bo$53b
4ob3ob2o$54bo$39b3o12bobo2b2o3bo$39bo2bo3b3o8bob2ob3o$39bo6bo2bo7b2o5b
o$39bo3bo2bo2bo4b2ob2o$39bo5bo3b2o4bo3b4ob3o$40bobobo5bob3obo2bob3ob2o
2b3o$49b2o8bo3bobo3bo2bo$44bo2b3obo6bo3b3o8bo$39b3o3bob2o2bobob3o2bob
2o5bo$38bo2bo9bob2o2bobo3bo6b2o$41bo4bob2obo2b4ob2obo4bo$41bo3b3obobo
2b2o5bo5bo6bo$38bobo2bobo5bo6bo9b2o$43bob2ob2o3bo4bo13bo$42b2o6b2o7bo$
43bobobo3bobo2b2obo$42b2obob2o7bo5bo$46b7o3bo4b3o$51bo4bo3b2obo$5b3o
15b3o16bo9bo3b3obobo$4bo3bo13bo3bo14b3o3b3o7b2ob3o$3b2o4bo11bo4b2o12bo
2b2ob2o3b2o3b2ob2ob5o$2bobob2ob2o3b3o3b2ob2obobo12b2obo8bo2bo3b2o2b3o$
b2obo4bob2ob3ob2obo4bob2o9bo2b2o8bo5b2o4bo2bo$o4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo4bo
4bo16b2o$12bo5bo15b3o2bo3bo12b2o8bo$2o7b2o9b2o7b2o2b2o4bo15b3o6bobo$
32b2o2bo18bo2bo5b2o$30bo2bo5bob2o11bo5bo2b2o$31bo23bobob3o$59b3o$52b3o
$51bo3b2o6b2o$51b3o2b2o4b2o$51b2o9b3o$53b2o2b6o$52bo5b2o$50bob3o3b3o$
52bo2bobo3bo$50bo3bobob2ob2o$51bo4bo6bo$54b2o3b2o$49b2o3bo2b4o2bo$49bo
b2o6bobo$49bo$48bo2bob2o4b2o$48bo4bo$54b2o3bo$48bo3bo2b2o4b2o$49bobo3b
2o5bo$49bo13bo$49bo10b3o$61b3o!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » February 14th, 2025, 1:19 pm

8 is in principle a small period. But I hope to build up a sparkler library that then allows to support real medium periods.

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by EvinZL » February 14th, 2025, 2:19 pm

slight reduction:

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x = 46, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
20bo$19b3o$18b2obo$18b3o$9b3o6b3o$3bo5bo2bo5b3o$2b3o2bo3b2o2b4o$2bob2o
5b2o2b3o$3b3obob2o4bo2bo5bo$3b3o3b2o8bo3b3o7b3o$3b2o3bo6bo3b4o2b2o6bo
2bo$8bo6bo3b4ob3o6bob3o$16b2o7bo6b2o4bo$26b2o8bo2bo$27b9o$28bo2bo2bo3b
o$28bo3b2o$12b3o13bo5bob2o$11bo2bo4b3o6bo7b3o$14bo3bo2bo7b3o2bob3o$10b
o3bo7bo5bobo4bo$14bo5b2o7bobobo2b2o$11bobo3b3ob3o2bo3bobo3b3o3b3o$16bo
6b2ob2o2bo8bo2bo2bo$24bo3b2o4bo7bob2o$12b3o4b3ob2o2b2o5b2o7b2o$12bo2bo
2bo5bob3o3bo2bo$12bo9bobo2bo2bobo$12bo4bo4bobobo3bo4bo$13bo3b2obobob2o
4bo4bo$15bo6bo7bo$16bob3o4b2o4b2o$15b2obo10bo2bo$20bo4bo2bo2bo3bo$19b
3o9bo2b3o$19b2ob3o2bo2bob2o2b2o$15bo4bo3bo6b3ob3o$14b3o2bo8b3obo3bo$
13b2o2bo3bo2b2o4bo6b2o$13bo2bo4bo4bo11b2o$12b2obo9bo4bob3o3b3o$8bo21b
5o$7b3o5b2o14b3o4bo$6b2ob2ob3o13b2o8bo$5b2o5b2o14bo9bo$6bo23b3o3bo$5b
2o20bobob2ob4o$3b2obobo17bo4bo3b3o$4bobob2o15bo2bo2b4o$b2obobo3bo14bo
4b7o$b2o3bo17bo5bo5bo$b3obo3b2o12b3o5bo5bo$2o21b2ob2o3b3o$23b2obo5b3o$
24bo8bo$25bo2bobo3bo$24b3obo2b2o2bo$31b3o2bo$27bo3bo3bo$22b3o6bobobo$
21bo2b3o6bo$24bobo6bo$20bo3bob2o$21b4o7b2o$29bo$25b2ob2o3b2o$22bo11bob
o$21bobo10bobo$21bobo10bobo2$34bo!
the sparks are pretty nice. here are some sample reactions:

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x = 53, y = 91, rule = B3/S23
50bo$49bobo$49bobo$50bo8$50b2o$49bo2bo$49bo2bo$50b2o6$20bo$19b3o$18b2o
bo$18b3o$9b3o6b3o29bo$3bo5bo2bo5b3o28bobo$2b3o2bo3b2o2b4o31bo$2bob2o5b
2o2b3o$3b3obob2o4bo2bo5bo$3b3o3b2o8bo3b3o7b3o$3b2o3bo6bo3b4o2b2o6bo2bo
$8bo6bo3b4ob3o6bob3o$16b2o7bo6b2o4bo$26b2o8bo2bo9b2o$27b9o13b2o$28bo2b
o2bo3bo$28bo3b2o$12b3o13bo5bob2o$11bo2bo4b3o6bo7b3o$14bo3bo2bo7b3o2bob
3o$10bo3bo7bo5bobo4bo$14bo5b2o7bobobo2b2o$11bobo3b3ob3o2bo3bobo3b3o3b
3o$16bo6b2ob2o2bo8bo2bo2bo4b2o$24bo3b2o4bo7bob2o3bo2bo$12b3o4b3ob2o2b
2o5b2o7b2o5b2o$12bo2bo2bo5bob3o3bo2bo$12bo9bobo2bo2bobo$12bo4bo4bobobo
3bo4bo$13bo3b2obobob2o4bo4bo$15bo6bo7bo$16bob3o4b2o4b2o$15b2obo10bo2bo
$20bo4bo2bo2bo3bo$19b3o9bo2b3o$19b2ob3o2bo2bob2o2b2o$15bo4bo3bo6b3ob3o
$14b3o2bo8b3obo3bo$13b2o2bo3bo2b2o4bo6b2o$13bo2bo4bo4bo11b2o$12b2obo9b
o4bob3o3b3o$8bo21b5o$7b3o5b2o14b3o4bo$6b2ob2ob3o13b2o8bo$5b2o5b2o14bo
9bo$6bo23b3o3bo$5b2o20bobob2ob4o$3b2obobo17bo4bo3b3o$4bobob2o15bo2bo2b
4o$b2obobo3bo14bo4b7o$b2o3bo17bo5bo5bo$b3obo3b2o12b3o5bo5bo$2o21b2ob2o
3b3o$23b2obo5b3o$24bo8bo$25bo2bobo3bo$24b3obo2b2o2bo$31b3o2bo$27bo3bo
3bo$22b3o6bobobo$21bo2b3o6bo$24bobo6bo$20bo3bob2o$21b4o7b2o$29bo$25b2o
b2o3b2o$22bo11bobo$21bobo10bobo$21bobo10bobo2$34bo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by amling » February 14th, 2025, 3:02 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 4th, 2024, 9:38 am
2c/8d needs dot spark:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bo2$6b3o$5b2obo$6bo$3bo2b2o$ob4obo$2bo2b2o$2b2o!
I read this and thought "ain't no one searching at 2c/8d" but then the 4c/8 partial went so well I decided to take a crack. This time I used the full rotor tree pipeline to begin with and it eventually produces results like (PD to c/4d for 16 Y rows):

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x = 201, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
F.20B3.F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F$F.20B3.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F
2.20B2.F24.F24.F24.F$F.20B3.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F3.20B.F
3.20B.F3.20B.F$F.20B3.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F3.20B.F3.20B.F
3.20B.F$F.11B2A7B3.F2.10B2A8B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F3.20B.F3.20B.
F3.20B.F$F.8B2A2BA7B3.F2.7B2A11B2.F2.7BA2BABA7B2.F2.10BABA7B2.F2.20B
2.F3.20B.F3.20B.F3.20B.F$F.7BAB4ABA5B3.F2.6BA4B2A7B2.F2.6BA3B3A7B2.F
2.9BA3BA6B2.F2.9B2AB2A6B2.F3.8B2AB2A7B.F3.8B2AB2A7B.F3.11B2A7B.F$F.7B
2A2BA8B3.F2.6BA3B2A8B2.F2.10B3A7B2.F2.10BABA7B2.F2.10B3A7B2.F3.8BA3BA
7B.F3.12BA7B.F3.8BA3BA7B.F$F.8BA11B3.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.7BA3BA8B2.F2.
7BA3BA8B2.F3.6B2AB3A8B.F3.6BA2B3A8B.F3.7BAB3A8B.F$F.6BAB2A10B3.F2.5BA
2BA11B2.F2.6B3A11B2.F2.6BABA11B2.F2.7B2A11B2.F3.6BABA11B.F3.6BABABA9B
.F3.8BA2BA8B.F$F.6B3A11B3.F2.5BAB2A11B2.F2.7B2A11B2.F2.9BA10B2.F2.8B
2A10B2.F3.8BA11B.F3.8B2A10B.F3.8BA11B.F$F.20B3.F2.7BA12B2.F2.6B3A11B
2.F2.6BABA11B2.F2.7B2A11B2.F3.6BABA11B.F3.6BABA11B.F3.6BAB2A10B.F$F.
8BA11B3.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F2.7BA12B2.F2.7BA12B2.F3.6B2A12B.F3.6B2A12B.F
3.6B2A12B.F$F.8BA3BA7B3.F2.8BAB2A8B2.F2.12BA7B2.F2.20B2.F2.20B2.F3.
20B.F3.20B.F3.20B.F$F.10B2ABA6B3.F2.9B4A7B2.F2.8BA3BA7B2.F2.9BA2BA7B
2.F2.12BA7B2.F3.10B2A8B.F3.12BA7B.F3.20B.F$F.9B2A3BA5B3.F2.8BA4BA6B2.
F2.8BAB2AB2A5B2.F2.8BA2BABA6B2.F2.7BA2B2ABA6B2.F3.8B5A7B.F3.8BA3BA7B.
F3.7B3A2BA7B.F$F.4B2A5B2ABA5B3.F2.3B2A3BA4B2A5B2.F2.3B2A2B2A3BA7B2.F
2.7B3A2BABA5B2.F2.9B2A3BA5B2.F3.8BA4BA6B.F3.7B2AB2AB2A5B.F3.11BABA6B.
F$F.5BA4B4A2BA3B3.F2.4BA3B2A3B2A5B2.F2.12BA2BA4B2.F2.5B4A2B4A5B2.F2.
4B2A5B2ABA5B2.F3.3B2A3BA4B2A5B.F3.3B2A2B2A3BA7B.F3.7B3A2BABA5B.F$F.5B
AB2ABA3BA5B3.F2.3B2AB4A3BABA4B2.F2.3B3ABA2BA2BABA4B2.F2.3BABA2B3A4B2A
3B2.F2.5BA4B4A2BA3B2.F3.4BA3B2A3B2A5B.F3.12BA2BA4B.F3.5B4A2B4A5B.F$F.
5B3A5BAB2A3B3.F2.3BA5BA4B2A4B2.F2.3BABABAB2AB4A4B2.F2.3BABA2B2A5B2A3B
2.F2.5BAB2ABA3BA5B2.F3.3B2AB4A3BABA4B.F3.3B3ABA2BA2BABA4B.F3.3BABA2B
3A4B2A3B.F$F.5B3AB2A4BA4B3.F2.4BA6B2A7B2.F2.10B3A2BA4B2.F2.5B2A5BA2BA
4B2.F2.5B3A5BAB2A3B2.F3.3BA5BA4B2A4B.F3.3BABABAB2AB4A4B.F3.3BABA2B2A
5B2A3B.F$F.7B6AB2A4B3.F2.10BAB2ABA4B2.F2.4B2A4BA9B2.F2.3BA2BA6B2A5B2.
F2.5B3AB2A4BA4B2.F3.4BA6B2A7B.F3.10B3A2BA4B.F3.5B2A5BA2BA4B.F$F.7BA6B
ABA3B3.F2.3BAB2A3BAB2ABA4B2.F2.3B4A2B2AB2ABA4B2.F2.8B7A5B2.F2.7B6AB2A
4B2.F3.10BAB2ABA4B.F3.4B2A4BA9B.F3.3BA2BA6B2A5B.F$F.3B3A3BA7BA2B3.F2.
2BABA2BABA5B2A3B2.F2.3B3ABABA3BA3BA2B2.F2.3BA3BABA6BA3B2.F2.7BA6BABA
3B2.F3.3BAB2A3BAB2ABA4B.F3.3B4A2B2AB2ABA4B.F3.8B7A5B.F$F.3B2A4BAB2A4B
A2B3.F2.7B2AB3A2B3A2B2.F2.7BA2BABABA2BA2B2.F2.4BA2BABA2BA2B2A3B2.F2.
3B3A3BA7BA2B2.F3.2BABA2BABA5B2A3B.F3.3B3ABABA3BA3BA2B.F3.3BA3BABA6BA
3B.F$F.4BA4BAB2ABA2BA2B3.F2.8BA2B2A2BA4B2.F2.7B2A4B3A4B2.F2.4BAB3A3BA
2B2A3B2.F2.3B2A4BAB2A4BA2B2.F3.7B2AB3A2B3A2B.F3.7BA2BABABA2BA2B.F3.4B
A2BABA2BA2B2A3B.F$F.4B2A4BA4BA4B3.F2.3B2A4BA3BA6B2.F2.3B3A7BABA4B2.F
2.4B2AB2A2BA4BA3B2.F2.4BA4BAB2ABA2BA2B2.F3.8BA2B2A2BA4B.F3.7B2A4B3A4B
.F3.4BAB3A3BA2B2A3B.F$F.5BA6B2A6B3.F2.4B2A2B5AB2A4B2.F2.5BABA2B6A4B2.
F2.5BABA2BA2BAB2A3B2.F2.4B2A4BA4BA4B2.F3.3B2A4BA3BA6B.F3.3B3A7BABA4B.
F3.4B2AB2A2BA4BA3B.F$F.5BA3B2A2B2AB2A2B3.F2.4BA2B2A7BA3B2.F2.6B2A2B2A
4BA3B2.F2.6B4A6B2A2B2.F2.5BA6B2A6B2.F3.4B2A2B5AB2A4B.F3.5BABA2B6A4B.F
3.5BABA2BA2BAB2A3B.F$F.4B2ABAB3A2B4A2B3.F2.3B2A2BA8BA3B2.F2.9BA4BAB2A
2B2.F2.5BA2B2ABAB2AB2A2B2.F2.5BA3B2A2B2AB2A2B2.F3.4BA2B2A7BA3B.F3.6B
2A2B2A4BA3B.F3.6B4A6B2A2B.F$F.6BA3B2ABA6B3.F2.3B3AB2ABA2B4A3B2.F2.5B
3A2BA2B2A5B2.F2.5BABA6BA5B2.F2.4B2ABAB3A2B4A2B2.F3.3B2A2BA8BA3B.F3.9B
A4BAB2A2B.F3.5BA2B2ABAB2AB2A2B.F$F24.F2.4BA3B2ABA2BAB2A2B2.F2.6B2AB5A
2B2A2B2.F2.5BA2BA2B2A4BA2B2.F2.6BA3B2ABA6B2.F3.3B3AB2ABA2B4A3B.F3.5B
3A2BA2B2A5B.F3.5BABA6BA5B.F$F24.F24.F24.F24.F24.F3.4BA3B2ABA2BAB2A2B.
F3.6B2AB5A2B2A2B.F3.5BA2BA2B2A4BA2B.F!

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x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$15bo6b4o2bo$15b5o2bo2b4o$8b2o8b2o9bo$5b2o2bo7b5o6bo$4bob4ob2o4bo
2bo$4b2o2bo5bo4b2ob3o2b2o$5bo7b2ob2ob2o4bob3o$3bob2o6bob2o3bo2b2o3b2o$
3b3o6bo2b2o3bo2b2obo$13bo2bobo7b2obo$5bo8b2obo2b2o2bo2b2o$5bo3bo8b3o4b
o2bo$7b2obo5bobo2bo5b2o$6b2o3bo10b3o2b2o$b2o5b2obo$2bo4b4o2bo$2bob2obo
3bo$2b3o5bob2o$2b3ob2o4bo$4b6ob2o$4bo6bobo$3o3bo7bo$2o4bob2o4bo$bo4bob
2obo2bo$b2o4bo4bo$2bo6b2o$2bo3b2o2b2ob2o$b2obob3o2b4o$3bo3b2obo!
Unfortunately that's as good as it got to in 60 GB of memory and the splits aren't generally very good looking (the front side is so crowded what with having to be compatible with its own flip across the diagonal).

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by hotcrystal0 » February 14th, 2025, 8:43 pm

EvinZL wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 2:19 pm
slight reduction:

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x = 46, y = 71, rule = B3/S23
20bo$19b3o$18b2obo$18b3o$9b3o6b3o$3bo5bo2bo5b3o$2b3o2bo3b2o2b4o$2bob2o
5b2o2b3o$3b3obob2o4bo2bo5bo$3b3o3b2o8bo3b3o7b3o$3b2o3bo6bo3b4o2b2o6bo
2bo$8bo6bo3b4ob3o6bob3o$16b2o7bo6b2o4bo$26b2o8bo2bo$27b9o$28bo2bo2bo3b
o$28bo3b2o$12b3o13bo5bob2o$11bo2bo4b3o6bo7b3o$14bo3bo2bo7b3o2bob3o$10b
o3bo7bo5bobo4bo$14bo5b2o7bobobo2b2o$11bobo3b3ob3o2bo3bobo3b3o3b3o$16bo
6b2ob2o2bo8bo2bo2bo$24bo3b2o4bo7bob2o$12b3o4b3ob2o2b2o5b2o7b2o$12bo2bo
2bo5bob3o3bo2bo$12bo9bobo2bo2bobo$12bo4bo4bobobo3bo4bo$13bo3b2obobob2o
4bo4bo$15bo6bo7bo$16bob3o4b2o4b2o$15b2obo10bo2bo$20bo4bo2bo2bo3bo$19b
3o9bo2b3o$19b2ob3o2bo2bob2o2b2o$15bo4bo3bo6b3ob3o$14b3o2bo8b3obo3bo$
13b2o2bo3bo2b2o4bo6b2o$13bo2bo4bo4bo11b2o$12b2obo9bo4bob3o3b3o$8bo21b
5o$7b3o5b2o14b3o4bo$6b2ob2ob3o13b2o8bo$5b2o5b2o14bo9bo$6bo23b3o3bo$5b
2o20bobob2ob4o$3b2obobo17bo4bo3b3o$4bobob2o15bo2bo2b4o$b2obobo3bo14bo
4b7o$b2o3bo17bo5bo5bo$b3obo3b2o12b3o5bo5bo$2o21b2ob2o3b3o$23b2obo5b3o$
24bo8bo$25bo2bobo3bo$24b3obo2b2o2bo$31b3o2bo$27bo3bo3bo$22b3o6bobobo$
21bo2b3o6bo$24bobo6bo$20bo3bob2o$21b4o7b2o$29bo$25b2ob2o3b2o$22bo11bob
o$21bobo10bobo$21bobo10bobo2$34bo!
Reposting this massive reduction to it (on the left)
Game of Life Fun wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 7:33 pm

Massive reduction

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x = 55, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
3bo29bo$2b3o27b3o$2bob2o5bo20bob2o5bo$3b3o4b3o20b3o4b3o$3b3o3bo2b2o19b
3o3bo2b2o$3b2o3b3obo20b2o3b3obo$10bob2o26bob2o$6b2ob2o25b2ob2o$6bo2b2o
25bo2b2o$5b2o2bo25b2o2bo$4bo5bo23bo5bo$4bo5bo23bo5bo$3b2o5bo22b2o5bo$
3b2o5bo22b2o5bo$4b4obo24b4obo$5b7o23b7o$10bobo27bobo$bo8bobo18bo8bobo$
3o4bo22b3o4bo$ob2o2bobo21bob2o2bobo$b3o2bobo3b3o16b3o2bobo3b3o$b3o3bo
4bo2bo15b3o3bo4bo2bo$b2o13bo14b2o13bo5bo$12bo29bo8b3o$13b2o28b2o6bob2o
$10bo29bo7bo3b3o$10bo6bo22bo6b2o3b3o$11b2o28b2o9b2o$15bo29bo$48b2o$47b
obo$48b2o!
wherever I go on the internet I bring with myself nothing but problems.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by amling » February 15th, 2025, 4:54 am

amling wrote:
February 14th, 2025, 3:02 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 4th, 2024, 9:38 am
2c/8d needs dot spark:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bo2$6b3o$5b2obo$6bo$3bo2b2o$ob4obo$2bo2b2o$2b2o!
I read this and thought "ain't no one searching at 2c/8d" but then the 4c/8 partial went so well I decided to take a crack. This time I used the full rotor tree pipeline to begin with and it eventually produces results like (PD to c/4d for 16 Y rows):

(snip)

Unfortunately that's as good as it got to in 60 GB of memory and the splits aren't generally very good looking (the front side is so crowded what with having to be compatible with its own flip across the diagonal).
Ah, but starting new searches with just this other rotor got a bit further and produces some workable splits. It's another big mess of branches, but e.g. this completes it:

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#C [[ TRACK -1/4 -1/4 ]]
x = 148, y = 148, rule = B3/S23
75bo$74b2o$68bo5bobo$67b2o$67bobo3b2obobo$71bo7b2o$70bo4bo5b2o$70bo2bo
2b6o3$79b2obo$79bo2bo$79bobo$74bo12bo$73b2o5bo4b2obo$73bobo4bo3b2o2bo$
80bob2o2bo$76b2o3b4o$77b2ob2o$71b2o3b2ob2o$70b2o4b2obo$72bo6bo$74bo3bo
$46b2o25b2o$46bobo19b3o2bo$46bo21bo5bo2bo$49bo14b2o3bo5b3o$49b2o12b2o
6b2o$49b2o8bo5bo6bo2bo$48b2o8b2o7b3o2bo3bo6bobo$44b2ob2o9bobo6b2obobo
2bo3b3obo$44bo4bo19b2ob3ob3obobo2b2o$44bob4o11b2o2b2o6b2o2b2ob2obo2b2o
$48b2o12b2ob2o3b2o3bob2obob2o2bo2b2o$48b2o5b2o5b2o15bo2b2o6b5ob2ob2ob
2o$48b2o5bo3b2obo12bo2bobob2o2bo4b2o2bo2b2o3b5ob2ob2ob2o$50bo4bobob3o
3bo8b2o2b2o2bo5bo7bo3bo3b2o2bo2b2o3b5o$49b2o3b2obo17b2ob2ob3o3b2o20bo
3bo3b2o2b2o$49bo24bo7b2o$50bo8b3o12bo48b2o$59b3o12bo3bo15b2o6b2o16bo4b
o$74bo4bo13b2o4b2obo18b2obo$58b2o18bo15bobo2b2o23bo$58bo16b2obo2b2o11b
obo2b2o15b3o$30b3o46bob2o6b3o4bo19bo2b2o4bo$30bo47b4o7bo27bo2bo3b2o$
23b3o6bo45bo13b5o22bo2bo$23bo6bobo46bo9bo3b4o23b2o7bo$24bo4b2ob4o42b2o
10bob4o29b4o2bo$26b4ob5ob2o39bobo10bo32bo2bo$27b2o7b2obo85b2o2bob2o$
78bo5b3o3b2o40b2o2b2o$78b2o4bo2b5obo42bobo$79b2o4b2ob2ob2o42bo3bobo$
37bo41b2o3b3o44bo9bo$34b4o41bobo48b2obo8b2o$34bo45bo49bo10b3obo$36b2o
40b2o3b2obo42b2o10bo$29b2o11b2o34b2o4b3o42bo12b2ob3o$28b2o5b2o2b2obo
35b2o2bo31b3o6b2o5bo$30bo4b2o2b2o40bo2bo21b2o6bo6bobo$32bo3bo2b2o40bo
3b2o19bobo8bo2b2o$32b4o45bo3bobo18bo11bob2o$27bo5b2o50b3o13b3o6bob3ob
3o$26b2o51b2obob2o8b3o4bo7b3o2bo2bob3o$26bobo3b2o2bo42b2obob2o8bo7bo8b
o6bob2o5bo$32b2o46bobo12bo8b2o3b2o15b2o$3b2o24b2o50bo2b2obo6b3o6b2o3bo
2bo14bobo$2b2o20b2o3b2o51bo4bo6b3ob2o7bo2b3o$4bo19bobo2bobo70bo4bo2b2o
14bobob2o$6b2o12bo3bo5b2obo48b4o16bo2bo4b2o14b2o2b2o$5bo13b2o6bo5bo47b
2obo12bo3bobo21bo2bobo$19bobo5b5o52bo9bob2o2b2o12b2o$4bo2bo6b2o7b2o6b
2o48bo2b3obo4b4o3b2o11b2obo$b2obo8b2o7b2obo5b2o3bob4o47bo3bobo4bo5bo8b
3o6b3obobo$2o4bo8bo10bobobo2bob3o5bo37b3o2bo2bo14b2obo8b2o6b2o2bo$2bob
o2bo9bob2o5bo2bobo5bo5bo36b3o5bo5b3ob2o3b2o2bo3b3o6b3o5bo$7bo9b4o4b2o
4b3o50bobo7b3o2b3o3bo5bo6bo2bo3b2o$4bo2bo10bo3bo8b3ob3o2bob2ob2ob2ob2o
4b3o25b2o3bo8bo3b2obo6bo6bobo2bo$5bobo2b3o6b3o8bo3bob2o3bo2b2ob2o3b4ob
3o4b2o19b2obo5bobo10bob4o3b2o$5bobo2bo3b3ob2o10b4obo9bo3bo3b2obo7b3o9b
o8b4ob3o10bo4bo7bo$6b2o4bo4b2o11bobo4bo5b3o9bo4b3o4bo3bobob2o11b2o2b3o
b3o5bo2b2o4bo3bo$6bo3b2o4b2o13bob6o4b2o14bo4b3obob2o3b2o11bo3b3o4bo5bo
3bo$16b2o11b2ob4ob2o18bo12bo4bo10bo2b3o2bo2bo10bo4bo$15bobo33b2obo2b2o
bo3b2obo2b4o3bo10bob2o7bo8bo$14b2o13bobo19bob2o3bo2b5obo2bo2bo4b3o7bo
3b2o3b2o10bo2bo$14bobo14b3obo15bob2o2b2o2bobo9bobob4o2bo5bob2o17bo$13b
o18bo4bo14bo9b2o3b2o11bo9bo3bo$14b2o20b2o14b2o19bo2bo2b4ob2o8bo$33bo
10b2obo4b2o20b2o5bobo2bo$33b2o9bo3bo2b2o25bobo2b2o2bo6b3o$34b2o8bo4bob
3o26bo2b2obo6b2obo$34b2o10bobo4bo26b3o2b2o7bo$34bo6bo4b3o3bo20b2o6b2o
2bo5bo2b2o$34bo5b4o2b3o15b2ob2o3b2o2b2obob3o3b2ob4obo$35bo4bo5b3o15bob
3o4b2ob2o12bo2b2o$34bobo5b3ob2o16bo2b2o3b2o2b2obobo8b2o$34bo36b2o8bobo
bo$35bo32bo7bo4bo3bo$34b2o5b3o24bo7b3o3bobo$34bobo4b3o28b3o2bo$63b2o6b
3o3bo$34bo5b2o21bobo3b2o$34b2o4bo22bo3bo3bo4bobobo$35b2o29b2o7b2obo2bo
$35b2o29bo3bo4bobo4bo$35bo24b3o11bo3bo$35bo24bo7b2o5b2o2bobo$36bo24bo
5bo12b2ob2o$35bobo26bobo12bo2bo2bo$35bo27b2obob3o8bo6bo$36bo27b2ob4o5b
2obo$35b2o26bo4bo7bo2bo5bo$35bobo25bo9bo2bobo2bobo$59b2o2b2o7b2o$35bo
23bo12bobo$35b2o6b2o14bo3bo9b3o3b2o$36b2o5bobo15bob2o9b2o3bobo$36b2o5b
o18b2obo11bo$36bo7bobo17bo$36bo3bo3b2obo13b2ob2o10bobo$37bo3bo5bo12b3o
b2o10b2o$37bo3bo4bo29bobo$39bo19b2o$39bob2o2bo3bo9bo14b2o$40bo3b2o2bob
o20bo2b2ob2o$48bobo15b2ob2o3bo2bo$48b2o15b2o3bo$48bo18bobobo2b3o$47bo
2bo6b2o$55b3obo9b3o2bo$48bobo3b2o13b2o$50b2o$51bo3bo2$53bo$51b2o$51bo$
52bo$53bo2$53b2ob2o$55b2obo$55b2obo2$56bobo$58bo$58bo!
This support is actually a strict 2c/8d sparker in its own right and can stand alone:

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#C [[ TRACK -1/4 -1/4 ]]
x = 104, y = 89, rule = B3/S23
31bo$30b2o$24bo5bobo$23b2o$23bobo3b2obobo$27bo7b2o$26bo4bo5b2o$26bo2bo
2b6o3$35b2obo$35bo2bo$35bobo$30bo12bo$29b2o5bo4b2obo$29bobo4bo3b2o2bo$
36bob2o2bo$32b2o3b4o$33b2ob2o$27b2o3b2ob2o$26b2o4b2obo$28bo6bo$30bo3bo
$2b2o25b2o$2bobo19b3o2bo$2bo21bo5bo2bo$5bo14b2o3bo5b3o$5b2o12b2o6b2o$
5b2o8bo5bo6bo2bo$4b2o8b2o7b3o2bo3bo6bobo$2ob2o9bobo6b2obobo2bo3b3obo$o
4bo19b2ob3ob3obobo2b2o$ob4o11b2o2b2o6b2o2b2ob2obo2b2o$4b2o12b2ob2o3b2o
3bob2obob2o2bo2b2o$4b2o5b2o5b2o15bo2b2o6b5ob2ob2ob2o$4b2o5bo3b2obo12bo
2bobob2o2bo4b2o2bo2b2o3b5ob2ob2ob2o$6bo4bobob3o3bo8b2o2b2o2bo5bo7bo3bo
3b2o2bo2b2o3b5o$5b2o3b2obo17b2ob2ob3o3b2o20bo3bo3b2o2b2o$5bo24bo7b2o$
6bo8b3o12bo48b2o$15b3o12bo3bo15b2o6b2o16bo4bo$30bo4bo13b2o4b2obo18b2ob
o$14b2o18bo15bobo2b2o23bo$14bo16b2obo2b2o11bobo2b2o15b3o$35bob2o6b3o4b
o19bo2b2o4bo$34b4o7bo27bo2bo3b2o$34bo13b5o22bo2bo$35bo9bo3b4o23b2o7bo$
34b2o10bob4o29b4o2bo$34bobo10bo32bo2bo$81b2o2bob2o$34bo5b3o3b2o40b2o2b
2o$34b2o4bo2b5obo42bobo$35b2o4b2ob2ob2o42bo3bobo$35b2o3b3o44bo9bo$35bo
bo48b2obo8b2o$36bo49bo10b3obo$34b2o3b2obo42b2o10bo$34b2o4b3o42bo12b2ob
3o$34b2o2bo31b3o6b2o5bo$37bo2bo21b2o6bo6bobo$37bo3b2o19bobo8bo2b2o$37b
o3bobo18bo11bob2o$41b3o13b3o6bob3ob3o$35b2obob2o8b3o4bo7b3o2bo2bob3o$
35b2obob2o8bo7bo8bo6bob2o5bo$36bobo12bo8b2o3b2o15b2o$37bo2b2obo6b3o6b
2o3bo2bo14bobo$38bo4bo6b3ob2o7bo2b3o$58bo4bo2b2o14bobob2o$38b4o16bo2bo
4b2o14b2o2b2o$37b2obo12bo3bobo21bo2bobo$40bo9bob2o2b2o12b2o$37bo2b3obo
4b4o3b2o11b2obo$45bo3bobo4bo5bo8b3o6b3obobo$37b3o2bo2bo14b2obo8b2o6b2o
2bo$36b3o5bo5b3ob2o3b2o2bo3b3o6b3o5bo$40bobo7b3o2b3o3bo5bo6bo2bo3b2o$
41b2o3bo8bo3b2obo6bo6bobo2bo$41b2obo5bobo10bob4o3b2o$41b4ob3o10bo4bo7b
o$44b2o2b3ob3o5bo2b2o4bo3bo$44bo3b3o4bo5bo3bo$42bo2b3o2bo2bo10bo4bo$
44bob2o7bo8bo$44bo3b2o3b2o10bo2bo$45bob2o17bo$46bo3bo$50bo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by Game of Life Fun » February 15th, 2025, 6:17 am

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
September 3rd, 2024, 10:00 am
8c/16 partial from hdp trivially solved via jslife-moving_master/velocity-c2/c2-extended/c2-0016.rle:

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x = 50, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
$6bo5bo25bo5bo$5b3o3b3o23b3o3b3o$4b2obo3bob2o21b2obo3bob2o$4bob2o3b2ob
o21bob2o3b2obo$2b2o2b7o2b2o17b2o2b7o2b2o$5bob5obo23bob5obo$4bo4bo4bo
21bo4bo4bo2$b3o11b3o15b3o11b3o$4b2o7b2o21b2o7b2o$b3o11b3o15b3o11b3o$b
2ob2o7b2ob2o15b2ob2o7b2ob2o$3bo5bo5bo19bo5bo5bo$4bo3b3o3bo21bo3b3o3bo$
7b5o27b5o$3bo11bo19bo11bo$4b4o3b4o21b4o3b4o$7b2ob2o27b2ob2o$8b3o29b3o$
6b2obob2o25b2obob2o$4b2obobobob2o21b2obobobob2o$4b2ob2ob2ob2o21b2ob2ob
2ob2o$3bo2bo5bo2bo19bo2bo5bo2bo$2b2o3bo3bo3b2o17b2o3bo3bo3b2o$3bo11bo
19bo11bo$7b2ob2o27b2ob2o$5b3o2bo29bo2b3o$6b3ob3o25b3ob3o$5b2o2b4o25b4o
2b2o2$5b2o37b2o$5b2o5bo25bo5b2o$5b2o3b2obo23bob2o3b2o$4b2o4bo2b2o21b2o
2bo4b2o$5bo2b3o2b2o21b2o2b3o2bo$6bo5b3o21b3o5bo$4bo5bo2b2o21b2o2bo5bo$
3bobo4bo2b2o21b2o2bo4bobo$3b5o5b3o19b3o5b5o$4b2o39b2o$3bo43bo$3b3o39b
3o$14b2o19b2o$13bo2bo17bo2bo$3b2o7b6o3b3o3b3o3b6o7b2o$2bo2bo6b6o3bo2bo
bo2bo3b6o6bo2bo$3b2o7b6o2bo3bobo3bo2b6o7b2o$13bo2bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo
2bo$14b2o19b2o$20b2obo3bob2o$22b2o3b2o$23bo3bo!
Reductions:

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x = 41, y = 97, rule = B3/S23
8b3o3b3o7b3o3b3o$8bo2bobo2bo7bo2bobo2bo$3bo4bo7bo7bo7bo4bo$2b3o3bo7bo
7bo7bo3b3o$2bob2o2bo7bo7bo7bo2b2obo$3b3o2bo2bobobo9bobobo2bo2b3o$3b3o
3b2o19b2o3b3o$3b3o29b3o$3b2o12bo5bo12b2o$16b3o3b3o$15b2o2bobo2b2o$18b
2ob2o7$17bobobobo$17bobobobo$18bo3bo12$3b3o29b3o$3bo2bo4b3o13b3o4bo2bo
$3bo6bo2bo13bo2bo6bo$3bo3bo5bo13bo5bo3bo$4bo4bo3bo13bo3bo4bo$4bo3bo4bo
13bo4bo3bo$3bobob2o3bo15bo3b2obobo$3bo6bo19bo6bo2$5b2o2bo21bo2b2o$7b3o
21b3o$10bo19bo$10b2o17b2o$10b2o17b2o2$10b2o17b2o$3b3o4b2o17b2o4b3o$3bo
2bo2bo2bo3b3o3b3o3bo2bo2bo2bo$3bo5bo2bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo5bo$3bo3bobo2b
o2bo3bobo3bo2bo2bobo3bo$3bo6b2o2bo2bobobobo2bo2b2o6bo$4bobo27bobo$15b
2obo3bob2o$17b2o3b2o$18bo3bo16$17bo5bo$16b3o3b3o$2bo12b2obo3bob2o12bo$
b3o5b3o3b3o5b3o3b3o5b3o$2obo5bo2bo3b2o5b2o3bo2bo5bob2o$3o4bo25bo4b3o$
3o7bo3bo11bo3bo7b3o$3o9bobo11bobo9b3o$b2o7b2o2bo11bo2b2o7b2o$6b2o3bobo
13bobo3b2o$10bo19bo$7bo4bo15bo4bo$12b2o13b2o$12b2o13b2o$10b3o15b3o$9bo
2bo15bo2bo$3b3o4b2o17b2o4b3o$3bo2bo4b2o3b3o3b3o3b2o4bo2bo$3bo7b2o3bo2b
obo2bo3b2o7bo$3bo3bobob2o2bo3bobo3bo2b2obobo3bo$3bo3bo2b2o2bo2bobobobo
2bo2b2o2bo3bo$3bo33bo$4bobo8b2obo3bob2o8bobo$17b2o3b2o$18bo3bo!

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x = 63, y = 51, rule = B026/S1
30bo$10bo$9bo2$7bo36bo$6bo7bo20bo$13bo2$bo11bo$o16bo21bo13bo$46bo$o44b
o4$55bo$18bo$19bo37bo$7bo4bo$6bo28bo2$6bo28bo$36bo25bo$17bo4$48bo8bo3$
6bobo$5bo11bo$53bo7$40bo$41bo2$35bo2$22bo$30bo7bo5bo5$35bo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by Game of Life Fun » February 15th, 2025, 7:54 am

I didn't notice this thread before. Thetr are some conceptions which fit here:

20c/40

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x = 58, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
b3o11b3o22b3o11b3o$o2bo10bo2bo22bo2bo10bo2bo$3bo4b3o6bo22bo6b3o4bo$3bo
4bo2bo5bo22bo5bo2bo4bo$obo5bob2o2bobo24bobo2b2obo5bobo4$2bo8bo34bo8bo$
b3o5bobo34bobo5b3o$2obo50bob2o$3o4bo2bo36bo2bo4b3o$b2o4b3o38b3o4b2o$8b
o40bo5$17b3o18b3o$16bo2bo18bo2bo$19bo18bo$19bo18bo$16bobo20bobo$14bo
28bo$14bo28bo$12b3o28b3o$12bo32bo5$11bo34bo$10b3o32b3o$9b2obo32bob2o$
9b3o34b3o$9b3o34b3o$9b3o12b3o4b3o12b3o$10b2o6bo4bo2bo4bo2bo4bo6b2o$19b
2o2bo3bo2bo3bo2b2o$22b2obobo2bobob2o$22b2ob2o4b2ob2o$23b3o6b3o6$27b4o
2$24bo8bo$24bo2b4o2bo$25bo6bo$24b2o6b2o!
Hook tagalog as engine:
Game of Life Fun wrote:
April 13th, 2023, 6:12 am
Game of Life Fun wrote:
April 11th, 2023, 3:33 pm
Two more ships by wwei can drag still life.

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x = 41, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
36b3o$36bo2bo$30b3o3bo$29bo2bo3bo3bo$32bo3bo$32bo4bobo$32bo2$30b3o$8b
3o20bobo$2b3o2bo2bo13b3o4b4o$bo2bo5bo13bo2bo3bo$4bo5bo13bo5bo4bo$o3bo
2bobo14bo3bobo$o3bo3b2o15bo3bo4bo$4bo23b2obo$bobo4b2o20bo$28bo$8bobo
16bo$8b4o15b3o$6b2o3bo14bo2bo$6b2o2bo15bo2bo2bo$5bobo2bo14bo2bo2b3o$4b
o5b2o12bo5b2obo$3bo5b2o12bo6b3o$4bo5b2o12bo6b2o$4bo4bo14bo2$3b2o18b2o$
3b2o18b2o$3b2o18b2o3$2bo2bo16bo2bo!
Connection od two edgy still life tagalongs with right ewcort gives two p40 puffers

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x = 85, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
2b3o29b3o11b3o29b3o$bo2bo29bo2bo9bo2bo29bo2bo$4bo3b3o17b3o3bo15bo3b3o
17b3o3bo$o3bo3bo2bo15bo2bo3bo3bo7bo3bo3bo2bo15bo2bo3bo3bo$4bo3bo21bo3b
o15bo3bo21bo3bo$bobo4bo21bo4bobo9bobo4bo21bo4bobo$8bo21bo23bo21bo2$8b
3o17b3o23b3o17b3o$7bobo19bobo21bobo19bobo$6b4o4b3o5b3o4b4o19b4o4b3o5b
3o4b4o$9bo3bo2bo5bo2bo3bo25bo3bo2bo5bo2bo3bo$5bo4bo5bo5bo5bo4bo17bo4bo
5bo5bo5bo4bo$10bobo3bo5bo3bobo27bobo3bo5bo3bobo$6bo4bo3bo7bo3bo4bo19bo
4bo3bo7bo3bo4bo$9bob2o13b2obo25bob2o13b2obo$10bo17bo27bo17bo$12bo13bo
31bo13bo$13bo11bo33bo11bo$11b3o11b3o29b3o11b3o$11bo2bo9bo2bo29bo2bo9bo
2bo$8bo2bo2bo9bo2bo2bo23bo2bo2bo9bo2bo2bo$7b3o2bo2bo7bo2bo2b3o21b3o2bo
2bo7bo2bo2b3o$7bob2o5bo5bo5b2obo21bob2o5bo5bo5b2obo$8b3o6bo3bo6b3o23b
3o6bo3bo6b3o$8b2o6bo5bo6b2o23b2o6bo5bo6b2o$16bo5bo39bo5bo2$16b2o3b2o
39b2o3b2o$7b3o6b2o3b2o6b3o30b2o3b2o$6bo2bo6bobobobo6bo2bo29bobobobo$9b
o7bo3bo7bo24bo8bo3bo8bo$5bo3bo19bo3bo19b3o19b3o$9bo19bo23bob2o17b2obo$
6bobo21bobo21b3o17b3o$54b2o19b2o! [[ STOP 40 ]]
EDIT:

I've found an object that can be a tagalong puffer, but needs sparks supportion. It is just hook! Here with 35p12h6v0:

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x = 26, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
3o$o2bo5bo5bo$o7b3o3b3o$o7bob2ob2obo$bobo5b3ob3o$9b3o2b2o$4b2o3b3o$3b
2o4b3o$2b2o2bo2b2o$2b2o$3bo2bo$5bo$3bo$4bo11b3o$16bo2bo2b3o$4b2o4b3o3b
o5bo2bo$4bobo2bo2bo3bo5bo$13bo2bo5bo$16bo2bo2bo$19bo2bo$19bo3bo$17b2o! [[ STOP 12 ]]
EDIT 2:

IT can be supported by gliders. Glide symethric in p48 and p16

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x = 261, y = 95, rule = B3/S23
183b3o$183bo$184bo4$3o$2bo$bo4$171b3o$171bo$172bo4$12b3o$14bo$13bo4$
159b3o$159bo$160bo4$24b3o$26bo$25bo4$147b3o$147bo$148bo4$36b3o$38bo$
37bo4$135b3o$135bo$136bo4$48b3o207b2o$50bo207bobo$49bo124b2o82bo$173bo
bo$175bo78b2o$254bobo$123b3o52b2o74bo$123bo53bobo$124bo54bo70b2o$250bo
bo$182b2o66bo$181bobo$60b3o120bo62b2o$62bo183bobo$61bo124b2o58bo$185bo
bo$86bo100bo54b2o$85b3o154bobo$84b2obo5b3o3b3o9b3o76b2o50bo$84b3o6bo2b
obo2bo9bo77bobo$85b2o6bo7bo10bo78bo19b3o24b2o$93bo7bo109bo2bo5bo5bo11b
obo$89bo3bo4bobo93b2o15bo7b3o3b3o10bo$88b3o2bo3bo95bobo15bo7bob2ob2obo
$72b3o12bo5bo101bo16bobo5b3ob3o7b2o$74bo19bobo123b3o2b2o7bobo$73bo15bo
108b2o15b2o3b3o11bo$87b3o107bobo14b2o4b3o$89bo109bo13b2o2bo2b2o8b2o$
89bo123b2o15bobo$99b3o100b2o10bo2bo12bo$89b2o8bo101bobo12bo$89b2o9bo
102bo10bo11b2o$88bo2b2o122bo10bobo$88b2ob2o113b2o18bo$88b2ob2o112bobo
7b2o$84b3o3bo116bo6bo2bo4b2o$86bo126b2ob2o4bobo$85bo124b2o2bobo5bo$
209bobo3bo$211bo!
EDIT 4:
And p40 and another 16

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x = 241, y = 95, rule = B3/S23
2o$b2o$o8$10b2o$11b2o$10bo8$20b2o$21b2o$20bo6$107b2o$108b2o$30b2o75bo
131b2o$31b2o205b2o$30bo80b2o127bo$112b2o$111bo123b2o$234b2o$115b2o119b
o$116b2o$115bo115b2o$230b2o$40b2o77b2o111bo$41b2o77b2o$40bo78bo107b2o$
226b2o$123b2o103bo$124b2o$123bo99b2o$222b2o$127b2o95bo$128b2o$50b2o75b
o91b2o$51b2o165b2o$50bo80b2o87bo$132b2o$131bo83b2o$214b2o$135b2o79bo$
136b2o$135bo75b2o$210b2o$60b2o77b2o71bo$61b2o77b2o$60bo78bo67b2o$206b
2o$143b2o63bo$144b2o$143bo59b2o$202b2o$147b2o55bo$148b2o$70b2o75bo23bo
27b2o$71b2o97b3o25b2o$70bo80b2o16b2obo5b3o3b3o13bo$152b2o15b3o6bo2bobo
2bo$93bo57bo18b2o6bo7bo8b2o$92b3o83bo7bo7b2o$91b2obo5b3o3b3o46b2o17bo
3bo4bobo10bo$91b3o6bo2bobo2bo47b2o15b3o2bo3bo$92b2o6bo7bo46bo16bo5bo
12b2o$100bo7bo70bobo8b2o$80b2o14bo3bo4bobo51b2o13bo17bo$81b2o12b3o2bo
3bo55b2o10b3o$80bo13bo5bo58bo14bo12b2o$101bobo70bo11b2o$96bo66b2o23bo$
94b3o67b2o8b2o$96bo66bo10b2o7b2o$96bo76bo2b2o4b2o$167b2o4b2ob2o6bo$96b
2o70b2o3b2ob2o$90b2o4b2o69bo7bo3b2o$91b2ob2o2bo79b2o$90bo3b2ob2o81bo$
94b2ob2o$96bo!
P32

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x = 160, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
158b2o$157b2o$159bo2$2o$b2o$o2$150b2o$149b2o$151bo2$8b2o$9b2o$8bo2$
142b2o$141b2o$143bo2$16b2o$17b2o$16bo2$134b2o$133b2o$135bo2$24b2o$25b
2o$24bo2$126b2o$125b2o$127bo2$32b2o$33b2o$32bo2$118b2o$117b2o$119bo2$
40b2o$41b2o$40bo2$110b2o$109b2o$111bo2$48b2o$49b2o$48bo2$102b2o$101b2o
$103bo2$56b2o12b3o$57b2o11bo2bo4b3o$56bo13bo6bo2bo$70bo3bo5bo$71bo4bo
3bo13b2o$71bo3bo4bo12b2o$70bobob2o3bo15bo$70bo6bo$64b2o$65b2o5b2o2bo$
64bo9b3o$77bo$77b2o7b2o$77b2o6b2o$87bo$77b2o$72b2o3b2o$73b2obo2bo$72bo
3bobo$77bo!
EDIT 3:

P12 stabilization by schick engine

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x = 32, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
2b3o$bo2bo$4bo3b3o$o3bo3bo2bo$4bo3bo$bobo4bo$8bo2$8b3o$7bobo$6b4o4b3o$
9bo3bo2bo$5bo4bo5bo$10bobo3bo$6bo4bo3bo$9bob2o$10bo9bo5bo$12bo6b3o3b3o
$13bo4b2obo3bob2o$11b3o4b3o5b3o$11bo2bo4b2o5b2o$8bo2bo2bo$7b3o2bo2bo7b
o$7bob2o5bo5b3o$8b3o6bo$8b2o6bo5bobo$16bo6bo2$16b2o12bo$8b3o5b2o11b3o$
8bo2bo3bobo2b3ob2o2b2obo$8bo7bo5bo5b3o$8bo3bo15b3o$8bo3bo12bo3b2o$8bo
13b2o$9bobo!

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x = 63, y = 51, rule = B026/S1
30bo$10bo$9bo2$7bo36bo$6bo7bo20bo$13bo2$bo11bo$o16bo21bo13bo$46bo$o44b
o4$55bo$18bo$19bo37bo$7bo4bo$6bo28bo2$6bo28bo$36bo25bo$17bo4$48bo8bo3$
6bobo$5bo11bo$53bo7$40bo$41bo2$35bo2$22bo$30bo7bo5bo5$35bo!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by HartmutHolzwart » February 16th, 2025, 10:17 am

The main issue with this thread is the current lack of partials to work on!

Since the early contributions of hotdogpi, not much showed up!

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Re: Medium puffer periods through hassling active regions

Post by vilc » February 18th, 2025, 2:31 pm

2c/10o partial, shown supported by a dot spark at the back :

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x = 11, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
bo7bo$obo5bobo2$2obo3bob2o$2b3ob3o$2bo5bo$b2obobob2o3$b2obobob2o$3b2ob
2o2$5bo!
Often shows up in qfind partials :

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x = 88, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o13bo7bo20b3o3b3o14b3o5b3o$ob2o3b2obo12bo7bo19bo9bo13bob2o3b2obo
$obobobobobo11bobo5bobo17b2o3bobo3b2o13b4ob4o$2ob2ob2ob2o12bob2ob2obo
19bo3bobo3bo17bobo$b2obobob2o16bobo22bo3bobo3bo15bobobobo$2bo5bo17bobo
24b2o3b2o17b2o3b2o$bo7bo13b3o3b3o20bo7bo16bo5bo$bobo3bobo44b2ob2o$3b2o
b2o45b3ob3o17bobobobo$24bobobobo46bo5bo$24b3ob3o48bobo$3bo3bo17b2ob2o$
bobo3bobo12b3o5b3o47bo$bobo3bobo11bo3bo3bo3bo20bo3bo20bobo$2bo5bo11bo
4bo3bo4bo18bob3obo19bobo$2b2o3b2o12bo3bo3bo3bo19bo2bo2bo19bobo$3obobob
3o41b3obob3o19bo$o9bo11bo2b2ob2o2bo19b2o5b2o$ob2o3b2obo11b2o7b2o21b2ob
2o16b2ob2ob2ob2o$2bo5bo44bo5bo16bob2ob2obo$24bo5bo23b2ob2o16b2o2bobo2b
2o$21b2obobobobob2o16b2o9b2o12bo3bobo3bo$25b2ob2o21b2o7b2o17bobo$22b2o
2bobo2b2o18b3o5b3o12bo4bobo4bo$22b2ob2ob2ob2o21b2ob2o15bob2obobob2obo$
21b2o9b2o20bo3bo17bo2bobo2bo$21bo2bo5bo2bo43bobobobo$51b2obobobob2o13b
obo5bobo$53b7o15bo9bo$52b2o5b2o14b2o2b3o2b2o$52bob5obo14bo4bo4bo$51b2o
7b2o14b3o3b3o$54bo3bo$78b2ob2o$78b2ob2o2$75b2obo3bob2o$74b2o9b2o$74b4o
5b4o$73b2o2b7o2b2o$79bobo$73b2o4b3o4b2o!
No completion exists at logical width 9 (no 2c/10 ship at all, in fact).
Not sure if this counts as a "puffer engine", but it has strong edge dot sparks with medium clearance.

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