Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

[MathAndCode]

Can the heart of the snark be replaced with an oscillator, too?

Yes if one adds the necessary guns or finds a more suitable block factory.

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x = 439, y = 424, rule = B3/S23
412bobo$412b2o$413bo34$376bobo$376b2o$377bo34$340bobo$340b2o$341bo34$
304bobo$304b2o$305bo34$268bobo$268b2o$269bo34$232bobo$232b2o$233bo$202b
2o$203bo$203bobo$204bobo$205bo3b2o$209b2o3$239b2o$239b2o$221b2o$220bo
2bo$197b2o22b2o2b2o$198bo26b3o$198bobo23bo2bo$199b2o24bob2o$224b5o$208b
2o14bo4bo$208b2o15b5o$225b2obo$226bo2bo$226b3o$220b2o5b2o2b2o$220bobo
7bo2bo$207b2o11bo10b2o$207bo31b2o$208b3o28b2o$210bo12$181b2o$180bobo$
182bo17$256b2o$256bobo$256bo15$145b2o$144bobo$146bo17$292b2o$292bobo$
292bo34$328b2o$328bobo$328bo34$364b2o$364bobo$364bo15$37b2o$36bobo$38b
o17$400b2o$400bobo$400bo15$b2o$obo$2bo17$436b2o$436bobo$436bo!

[JP21]

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bobo$2b2o$6bo$5bob2o$5bobo$2o4bo$2o$13b2o$12bobo$12bo$7b2o2b2o$
6bo2bo$7b2o!

[MathAndCode]

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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bobo$2b2o$6bo$5bob2o$5bobo$2o4bo$2o$13b2o$12bobo$12bo$7b2o2b2o$
6bo2bo$7b2o!

Is the discovery that adding one cell restores the beehive or that the reaction forms two induction coils stabilizing each other?

[JP21]

Is the discovery that adding one cell restores the beehive or that the reaction forms two induction coils stabilizing each other?

yeah

[MathAndCode]

Is the discovery that adding one cell restores the beehive or that the reaction forms two induction coils stabilizing each other?

yeah

Is it both?

[JP21]

only the 14 bit sl

[MathAndCode]

only the 14 bit sl

Ah; thank you for explaining.

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Ah; thank you for explaining.

I think this should go in the absolutely useless patterns not worthy of patterns thread.

[MathAndCode]

I think this should go in the absolutely useless patterns not worthy of patterns thread.

It might make a dot spark to X converter, although I don't think that that would be very useful.
If the beehive were put in a position relative to the R-pentomino so that said beehive could serve as a one-glider seed for said R-pentomino, that would be more interesting.

[Kazyan]

If we had a dot-to-X converter with a reasonable insertion site for the dot, it would immediately become versatile and important in signal circuitry, since many conduits throw off sparks. I'll take a look at replacing the lower beehive-and-eater bait soon.

[wwei23]

Can someone restore the eater 2, the beehive, and the loaves?

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9bobo$8b2ob3o$14bo$8b2ob3o$8b2obo$bo$obo3b2o$obo2bo2bo$bo3b
obo$6bo$9b2o$8bo2bo$9bobo$10bo!

EDIT:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9bobo$8b2ob3o$14bo$8b2ob3o$8b2obo$bo$obo3b2o$obo2bo2bo$bo3b
obo$6bo$9b2ob2o3b2o$10bobobo2b2o$bo8bo2bo$obo5b2ob2o$bobo5bo7b2o$2bo6b
ob4o2b2o$8b2obo2bo!

[MathAndCode]

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9bobo$8b2ob3o$14bo$8b2ob3o$8b2obo$bo$obo3b2o$obo2bo2bo$bo3b
obo$6bo$9b2ob2o3b2o$10bobobo2b2o$bo8bo2bo$obo5b2ob2o$bobo5bo7b2o$2bo6b
ob4o2b2o$8b2obo2bo!

That might be useful as a synthesis component.

[EvinZL]

That might be useful as a synthesis component.

Rube Goldberg synthesis time

[MathAndCode]

Rube Goldberg synthesis time

Chances are that a cheaper way to construct that row of cells directly could be found, so the synthesis wouldn't be quite so random-seeming.

[wwei23]

The problem is getting that loaf in there.

[bubblegum]

The problem is getting that loaf in there.

Why is the loaf your concern, rather than that 23-bit thing? The loaf is easy enough.

Also this is the mechanism:

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x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$4bobo$3b2ob3o$9bo$3b2ob3o$3b2obo2$2b4o$2b5o$2b2ob2o$2o!

[mniemiec]

That might be useful as a synthesis component.

There are much cheaper ways to turn a boat into an eater. That can be done with a mere four gliders, and when the boat is in that position, a side-effect would be the additional connecting bit.

[MathAndCode]

That might be useful as a synthesis component.

There are much cheaper ways to turn a boat into an eater. That can be done with a mere four gliders, and when the boat is in that position, a side-effect would be the additional connecting bit.

I meant a cheaper way to construct either that line of cells or something similar.

[wwei23]

Why is the loaf your concern, rather than that 23-bit thing? The loaf is easy enough.

The 23-cell still life is useless if it can't actually be used-The loaf is what makes this whole thing work.
EDIT: In other words, while the 23-bit still life is definitely more difficult to construct, there's no point if the loaf can't be inserted. If the loaf can't be inserted, then we might as well not care about the 23-bit still life.

[MathAndCode]

The 23-cell still life is useless if it can't actually be used-The loaf is what makes this whole thing work.
EDIT: In other words, while the 23-bit still life is definitely more difficult to construct, there's no point if the loaf can't be inserted. If the loaf can't be inserted, then we might as well not care about the 23-bit still life.

Oh; you were only trying to turn the block into a boat, not a fishhook.

[bubblegum]

Why is the loaf your concern, rather than that 23-bit thing? The loaf is easy enough.

The 23-cell still life is useless if it can't actually be used-The loaf is what makes this whole thing work.
EDIT: In other words, while the 23-bit still life is definitely more difficult to construct, there's no point if the loaf can't be inserted. If the loaf can't be inserted, then we might as well not care about the 23-bit still life.

The loaf is difficult to insert but we don't need the loaf anyways. I'm running spark_search on the spark I gave somewhere above, so let's see.

(Also it gave Golly kind of a hard time:)

[wwei23]

Oh; you were only trying to turn the block into a boat, not a fishhook.

I wasn't trying to turn it into anything particular, but JLS revealed that it could be turned into an eater. The problem is that the loaf needs to be inserted somehow. There are two cases:
1. The loaf can't be inserted, so there's no point in synthesizing the big still life anyways.
2. The loaf can be inserted, so now we need to worry about synthesizing the big still life.
While synthesizing the big still life is significantly more difficult, it still depends directly on the loaf insertion to actually be used.

[MathAndCode]

I wasn't trying to turn it into anything particular, but JLS revealed that it could be turned into an eater. The problem is that the loaf needs to be inserted somehow. There are two cases:
1. The loaf can't be inserted, so there's no point in synthesizing the big still life anyways.
2. The loaf can be inserted, so now we need to worry about synthesizing the big still life.
While synthesizing the big still life is significantly more difficult, it still depends directly on the loaf insertion to actually be used.

I think that attempting to synthesize the region that bubblegum pointed out or something similar will be easier and cheaper.

[otismo]

How are they the same reaction? I don't see the resemblance. Sorry if it's obvious.

Look at generation 37 of your pattern. Otismo's pattern appears to have removed objects that are not necessary for the LWSS's creation. However, doing that causes the LWSS to crash into a century instead of escaping, so otismo had to add other objects in order to suppress the junk that would have been suppressed by the objects that otismo removed.

this is a different reaction - but it is clean :

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x = 15, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
10b4o$11bo2bo$14bo$8bob4o$2o6bo$2o6b2ob2o$9bo$9b3o!

[83bismuth38]

a little under a month ago i found this odd little p3:

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
3bo$b3o$o3b2o$bo2bobo$b2obobo$3bobo$bobo$bo2bo$4obo$5bo$5bob2o$4b2ob2o
!

it looks like a combination of candelabra and trice tongs, but it's neither one.
i also "found" this:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
5bo$b2obobo$b2obo2bo$5b3o$b3o$o4b3o$bobobo2bo$2b2obobo$6bo!

which is just this:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2b3obo$2bobo2bo$5b3o$b3o$o4b3o$bobobo2bo$2b2obobo$6bo!

but the p4 part is replaced with a p1 part.