Thread For Your Useless Discoveries

[wwei23]

I did not expect to find a transparent boat (this came from a JLS component search).

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x = 17, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
.A4.2A$2.A2.A2.A$3A3.2A$15.E$14.E.E$7.2A5.2E$8.A$8.A.A3.2A$9.A.A.A.A$
10.2A.2A3$13.2A$13.2A!

[EvinZL]

This enters pretty late into the r-sequence

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
17.2C$17.C$15.C.C$15.2C5$10.3C$3.2C5.C.C5.2C$3.C2.C3.C.C3.C2.C$4.3C9.
3C2$2C.C.2C9.2C.C.2C$C.2C.C11.C.2C.C$5.C11.C$5.2C9.2C!

[wwei23]

Just for fun

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x = 265, y = 255, rule = B3/S23
5bo$6bo$4b3o5bo$13bo$11b3o13$15bo$16bo$14b3o12$33bo$34bo$32b3o2$46bo$
47bo$45b3o44$82bo$83b2o$82b2o5$90bo$91b2o$90b2o18$132b2o$133bo$127b2ob
3o$127b2obo13$133b2o$124b2o7bobo$125b2o6bo$124bo$118b3o$120bo$119bo$
150b3o$150bo$151bo11$102b2o49b2o$101bobo49bobo$103bo49bo9$154b3o$154bo
$155bo5$160b3o$160bo$161bo3$77b3o$79bo$78bo13$181b2o$74b2o105bobo$75b
2o104bo$74bo$68b3o$70bo$69bo$43b2o$42bobo$44bo4$63b2o$62bobo$64bo$32bo
$32b2o$31bobo4$29b2o$28bobo$30bo6$14bo$14b2o$13bobo4$11b2o$10bobo$12bo
6$11b3o$13bo$12bo17$262b3o$262bo$263bo3$3o$2bo$bo257b3o$259bo$260bo!

[JP21]

A combination of uselessnesses:

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x = 46, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
43bo$43bobo$43b2o30$25bo2bo$24bo$24bo3bo$24b4o2$9b3o$11bo$10bo$16b2o$
16bobo$16bo5$3o$2bo$bo!

Similarity syntheses:

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x = 33, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3o8b3o5b3o8b3o$2bo8bo9bo8bo$bo10bo7bo10bo3$28b2o$11bo16bobo$10b2o16bo$
10bobo!

Useless synth of r pentomino:

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x = 25, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$22bobo$16b2o4bo$15bobo$17bo2$19bo$18b2o$18bobo7$15b2o$16b2o$15bo
8$3o4b3o$2bo6bo$bo6bo!

more:

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x = 41, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
7b2o29b2o$7bobo28bobo$b2o4bo24b2o4bo$obo28bobo$2bo30bo3$4bo29b2o$4b2o
29b2o$3bobo28bo!

[wwei23]

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x = 21, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$15bo$9b2ob3o$9b2obo3$bo4b2o$2bo2bo2bo4bo$3o3b2o4bobo$11bob2o2b2o
$11bo6bo$7b2o3b3o3bobo$7bobo5bo3b2o$9bo4b2o$9bobo$10b2o2$8b4o$8bo3bo$
11b2o!

[MathAndCode]

A combination of uselessnesses

That LWSS eater does not seem useless (although it's probably already known) for multiple reasons. It can be constructed with only two gliders. While this is also true of a fishhook, this particular LWSS eater can be constructed in two ways due to its symmetry, which makes it more versatile. In addition, this LWSS eater is half of a blockade, so it is possible that one half of a blockade could be used as an LWSS eater and the other half could be used for something else.

[ENORMOUS_NAME]

(although it's probably already known)

Yup.

[bubblegum]

A combination of uselessnesses

That LWSS eater does not seem useless (although it's probably already known) for multiple reasons. It can be constructed with only two gliders. While this is also true of a fishhook, this particular LWSS eater can be constructed in two ways due to its symmetry, which makes it more versatile. In addition, this LWSS eater is half of a blockade, so it is possible that one half of a blockade could be used as an LWSS eater and the other half could be used for something else.

Known. LifeWiki has a glider to 2 blocks factory on display. The 3-block constellation is also known, jslife contains an oscillator based off it.

[JP21]

"Sentences made from a temporary very unhappy and unsatisfactorial mind of mine"

[bubblegum]

Sorry, but I just want to point out that all this time, I very much hate people saying my something might be known then a more experienced person shows needlessly examples of it being known. It keeps repeating when I show the lwss eater. (Yes, just check my older posts with lwss eater, you will see a reply saying that it is known, which is not nice especially because I already know they are known and I just enjoy placing them in useless ways for fun only.) But after all, this one is a result of an inexperienced user that keep quoting my (fun and already known) patterns.
It will all be fine if people gets that this is for useless discoveries and should not quote other posts here in a way that it would seem not useless only for someone to say that it is useless.

In short, don't quote my uselessnesses.

I don't understand half of this. Could you speak in German or Lojban or some other language with any kind of grammar?

[JP21]

I do not want anyone to quote my uselessnesses such that someone say it isn't (or other related part of it) useless because it leads to someone to post something saying that it was known for years (and proving it way too frequently). Like when the MathAndCode quoted my post then you have to say it was known. It's annoying because it could have been prevented if I didn't post anything (or if mathandcode didn't have to quote my unuseful/known life patterns like everyday)

I don't like unneccesary information to be brought out just because of my post. (post that was clearly intended for fun of combining uselessness together.)

Just watch the patterns instead. Not discuss with it.

I hope that's clearer.

[bubblegum]

I do not want anyone to quote my uselessnesses such that someone say it isn't (or other related part of it) useless because it leads to someone to post something saying that it was known for years (and proving it way too frequently). Like when the MathAndCode quoted my post then you have to say it was known. It's annoying because it could have been prevented if I didn't post anything (or if mathandcode didn't have to quote my unuseful/known life patterns like everyday)

I don't like unneccesary information to be brought out just because of my post. (post that was clearly intended for fun of combining uselessness together.)

Just watch the patterns instead. Not discuss with it.

I hope that's clearer.

So you have contributophobia. Got it.

[wwei23]

Don't be mean to MathAndCode
Anyways, how do I synthesize the big still life?

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x = 17, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$15bo$9b2ob3o$9b2obo3$bo4b2o$2bo2bo2bo4bo$3o3b2o4bobo$12bo2bo$13b
3o$7b2ob3o$8bobo3b2o$5b3o3b3o2bo$5bo2b2obo3b2o$6bobobo$7bo!

[mniemiec]

Anyways, how do I synthesize the big still life? ...

It should be possible (although very expensive), but why would you want to? Converting a block into a table can already be done with 5 gliders: 3 gliders turn block into boat, and 2 gliders turn boat into table.

[wwei23]

It should be possible (although very expensive), but why would you want to?

I was joking.

[Ian07]

An elongated "job" wick plus one bit produces xs13_32qkzx346 (frequency class 26.9):

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x = 79, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
6bo2$b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$obob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$o$b4ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$3bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!
#C [[ STOP 100 ]]

Bonus: if the wick is continued, it burns almost cleanly:

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x = 184, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
6bo2$b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$obob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obobo$o182bo$b4ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob3o$3bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!

[wwei23]

Another component

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x = 50, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
41bo$40bobo$40bobo$14b2o23b2ob3o$15bo29bo$9b2ob3o24b2ob3o$9b2obo26b2ob
o$18b2o28b2o$18b2o28b2o$bo4b2o4bo18bo4b2o4bo$2bo2bo2bo2bobo18bo2bo2bo
2bobo$3o3b2o3b2o3b2o12b3o3b2o3b2o3b2o$17bo29bo$16bo29bo$7b2o3b2obo21b
2o3b2obo$8bo3b2ob2o21bo3b2ob2o$6bo29bo$6b2o28b2o!

EDIT: How to move your LOM

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x = 62, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
14b2o38b2o$15bo39bo$9b2ob3o34b2ob3o$9b2obo36b2obo3$bo4b2o33bo4b2o$2bo
2bo2bo3b2ob2o25bo2bo2bo3b2ob2o$3o3b2o5bobo24b3o3b2o5bobo$12bo3bo35bo3b
o$11bob3o35bob3o$7b2obobo34b2obobo$8bobobob2o32bobobob2o$8bobobobobo3b
2o26bobobobobo3b2o$6bobob2o3b2o3b2o24bobob2o3b2o3b2o$6b2o38b2o8$46b2o$
46b2o!

Edit 2: This is just a larger version of keys, right?

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$2bob3o2bo$3bo2b4o2$b3ob5o$ob2o6bo$o7b2o$b2obo4bo$3b2obobo$6bobo$o
b5obobo$2o7b2o$3b2o$4bo$3bo$3b2o!

Edit 3: Corrected typo.

[MathAndCode]

I think this is the most useless way someone can rediscover the eater:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4bo$4bo2$3o3b3o$6bo$4bo$4bo$4bo!

Here is another way to make a fishhook.

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x = 17, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o$15b2o$15bo$2o11bobo$2o11b2o6$3bo$4bo$5bo$4bo$2b2o!

[wwei23]

230P8 can support 209P8:

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x = 71, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
38b2o12bob2o$52b2obo$36bo3bo14bob2o8bo$36bo4bo6b2o5bo2bo3b2o2bobo$38b
obobo5bobob2ob2o5bo3bobo$39bobobo6bobobo2b4obo2b2o2b2o$13b2o13b2o10bo
4bo3b2obobobo3bobobo2bobo$9b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o7bo3bo2bo2bo2bobob
2o2bob2obobo$10bob3obo2b2ob2o2bob3obo14bob5ob2o2bobo2bo2bob2o$7b3o6bo
9bo6b3o6b2o4bo2bo6bo2b3o2b2o2bo$7bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo13b9o3b2o4bobo$9bo5bo
3bo5bobobo4bo34bo$2o8b4o2b2o3b2o3bo3b2o17b9o3b2o4bobo$o2bo7b3o6bo2bo4b
2o8b5obo3bo2bo6bo2b3o2b2o2bo$3b3o17bo5b2o3bob2o9bob5ob2o2bobo2bo2bob2o
$2obo2bob2o13bo8bo2bo9bo2bo2bo2bobob2o2bob2obobo$2obo2bob2o13bo8bo2bo
9bo3b2obobobo3bobobo2bobo$3b3o17bo5b2o3bob2o12bobobo2b4obo2b2o2b2o$o2b
o7b3o6bo2bo4b2o8b5obo3bobob2ob2o5bo3bobo$2o8b4o2b2o3b2o3bo3b2o16b2o5b
o2bo3b2o2bobo$9bo5bo3bo5bobobo4bo20bob2o8bo$7bo2b6ob9ob6o2bo16b2obo$7b
3o6bo9bo6b3o16bob2o$10bob3obo2b2ob2o2bob3obo$9b2obo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bob2o
$13b2o13b2o!

EDIT: You can somehow manage to get the LWSS out, too:

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x = 14, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$2b5o$b2ob3o$2b2o2$6b2o$5b3o$6b2o4b2o2$b2o3bo$2ob4obo$b7o$2b2o5$3o
$2bo$bo!

Edit 2: Glider bounce! Now we need matching guns LOL

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x = 100, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
21b6o$21bo5bo$21bo$12b5o5bo4bo$12bo4bo6b2o$12bo$13bo3bo$bo2bo10bo$o$o
3bo$4o9b2o30bo$6b3o5b2o30b2o$6b2ob2o6b3o4bo20b2o$6b3o5b2o6b2obo$4o9b2o
7b2obo$o3bo18b2o$o$bo2bo35b4o$40bo3bo10b2o$40bo7bo4b3obo39b3o$14b6o21b
o2bo2b7obob3o39bo$14bo5bo25b2ob3o2bo2b3o38bo$14bo26bo2bo2b6o4b2o$15bo
4bo19bo7bo$17b2o21bo3bo19bo2bo$40b4o19bo$50bo2bo9bo3bo12bo$49bo13b4o4b
o6b2o$49bo3bo15b2o7bo$49b4o16b3o10bo$69b2o4bo$63b4o4bo3bo$63bo3bo$63bo
$64bo2bo$72b4o$72bo3bo$72bo$73bo2bo!

Edit 3: Weirdly-spaced beehives:

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x = 78, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
21b6o$21bo5bo$21bo$12b5o5bo4bo$12bo4bo6b2o$12bo$13bo3bo$bo2bo10bo$o$o
3bo$4o9b2o30bo$6b3o5b2o30b2o$6b2ob2o6b3o4bo20b2o$6b3o5b2o6b2obo$4o9b2o
7b2obo$o3bo18b2o$o$bo2bo3$14b6o39b2o$14bo5bo37b4o$14bo42b2ob2o11b2o$
15bo4bo37b2o5b2ob2obo3bo$17b2o45bo8bo3bo$63b2o7bo$64bo5bo4bobo$58b2o5b
2ob2o$57b2ob2o$58b4o$59b2o$67b2o$66b2ob2o$67b4o$68b2o!

[Jormungant]

More chaos to investigate:

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x = 46, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
$8.3B.B3.B$8.11B$7.12BD$6.13B2D$6.B2C11B2D$6.B.2C10BD$6.2BC.9BD$6.10B
$4.14B24.2C$4.2A2.3B.6B24.2C$5.A4.2B.5B$2.3A4.BA2B.4B$2.A6.A.A2.5B$
10.A3.6B7$19.5B$18.6B$17.2A5B$17.2A5B$18.17B$19.16B$19.18B$20.8B2A9B.
2A$19.8BA2BA8BA.A$18.10BABA7B.BA$18.11BA8B$19.18B$14.2A3.17B$14.A3.
17B$16.A.2AB.14B$15.2AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB$18.B6.3B5.2A$15.2A.2A5.B2AB$
15.2A.A2.A4.2A$16.B2.B2A$14.B!

I was wondering if the still life factories with a certain level of edgyness is part of the catalysts used by cat-scan like searches...

addendum, fixable?

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x = 59, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
4B$.4B$2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B40.2B$6.4B14.2A22.5B$7.4B14.A21.7B$8.4B12.A
21.8B$9.4B11.2A20.5BD3B$10.4B11.B20.3B2D5B$11.4B10.3B19.3B2D3BA$12.4B
8.6B16.8BABA$12.5B3.B2.10B11.10BABA$12.22B3.2B2.14BAB$11.12BD3B2A15BD
11B$10.13B2D2B2A15BDBD9B$10.B2C11B2D18B3D7B$12.2C10BD21BD7B$12.C10BD
26B2.B$11.13B.13B.4B$8.24B.B4.4B$8.2A2.3B.10B11.4B$9.A4.2B.5B.4B9.4B$
6.3A4.BA2B.4B2.4B7.4B$6.A6.A.A2.5B2.4B4.10B$14.A3.6B2.4B2.11B$21.4B2.
4B.11B$22.4B2.15B$23.4B2.14B$24.4B2.14B$25.4B.17B$26.4B.17B.2C$27.22B
2C$27.23B$27.23B.B$26.27B$25.21B.B3.3B$24.2A20B5.3B$24.2A19B7.B$25.
17B$26.16B$26.18B$27.8B2A9B.2A$26.8BA2BA8BA.A$25.10BABA7B.BA$25.11BA
8B$26.18B$21.2A3.17B$21.A3.17B$23.A.2AB.14B$22.2AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB$25.
B6.3B5.2A$22.2A.2A5.B2AB$22.2A.A2.A4.2A$23.B2.B2A$21.B!

[Kazyan]

Honey farm catalysis that does nothing helpful, but it's unusual. Bellman's contribution is at the top; the baton was passed to CatForce at the bottom.

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo$6b2o5bo$5bo2bob4o$4bobobobo$3bobo2bobob2o$2bo2bobob2obobo$
2bobob2o3bo2bo$3b2o4b2o3bob2o$5b4o4b2o2bo$5bo2bo3bo2bo$13b2o$2o$bo$bob
o$2b2o4b2o$7bo2bo$7b3o5$10b2o$9bo2bo$10b2o4b2obo$16b2ob3o$22bo$16b2ob
3o$17bobo$17bobo$18bo!

[MathAndCode]

Honey farm catalysis that does nothing helpful, but it's unusual. Bellman's contribution is at the top; the baton was passed to CatForce at the bottom.

I'm having difficulty cleaning up this method of converting a honey farm predecessor into a wing and glider.

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
9.D$9.2D$11.D$10.2D3$8.2C$7.C2.C$8.3C5.D$17.D$15.3D3$2.2A7.2A$3.A7.A$3A9.3A$A13.A!

I also found an unusual eater 2 catalysis, but the destroyed fishhook makes the reaction useless.

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x = 15, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A6$5.2C$4.C2.C$5.3C4$8.2A.A$8.2A.3A$14.A$8.2A.3A$9.A.A$9.A.A$10.A!

[bubblegum]

I also found an unusual eater 2 catalysis, but the destroyed fishhook makes the reaction useless.

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x = 15, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A6$5.2C$4.C2.C$5.3C4$8.2A.A$8.2A.3A$14.A$8.2A.3A$9.A.A$9.A.A$10.A!

This catalysis is equivalent to both a BTS and a block.

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x = 50, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
5bo20bo20bo$obobob2o13bobobob2o13bobobob2o$3o4bo13b3o4bo13b3o4bo$3bo3b
o16bo3bo16bo3bo$4b3o18b3o18b3o$4bo20bo20bo2$2b2obo17b2obo2bo15b2o$2b2o
b3o16bob4o15b2o$8bo13bobo$2b2ob3o14b2o2b2o$3bobo21bo$3bobo20bo$4bo21b
2o!

[roolif]

Smaller p7 H-to-G:

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x = 23, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
11bo$5b2o3bobo$6bo3bo2bo$6bob2obobo$7bobob2o2$8bob3o$8bo3bo$10b2o3b2o$
11bobo2bo$5b2ob2obob2o$5bobo3bo$2b2obobo4b3o$2bob2ob5o2bo$6bo4bo$3b2ob
ob3o$bo2b2ob2o4b2o$b2o10b2o9$19b2o$19bo$o19b3o$obo19bo$3o$2bo14b2o$17b
2o5$7b2o$7b2o2b2o$11b2o!

Playing with that, my 1st H2G, one more bulky SW-2T21:

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x = 37, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
27.2A$27.2A$12.2A$13.A$13.A.A$14.2A5$33.2A$33.A$14.E19.3A$14.E.E19.A$
14.3E$16.E14.2A$16.D14.2A$15.D$14.D$13.D$12.D$11.D$10.D12.2A$9.D14.A$
8.D12.3A$2.2A3.D13.A$3.A2.D$3A2.D$A3.D!

( centainly useless, but maybe not even a "discovery" )

[praosylen]

Honey farm catalysis that does nothing helpful, but it's unusual. Bellman's contribution is at the top; the baton was passed to CatForce at the bottom.

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rle

Fun! Here's a stator reduction:

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x = 23, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
$11b2o$10bo2bo$9bob3o$4b2o2bobo$4bo3bobob2o$5b3ob2obobo$7bo3bo2bo$9b2o
3bob2o$5b4o4b2o2bo$5bo2bo3bo2bo$13b2o$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o4b2o$7bo2bo$7b3o
5$10b2o$9bo2bo$10b2o4b2obo$16b2ob3o$22bo$16b2ob3o$17bobo$17bobo$18bo!