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Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 3rd, 2020, 4:06 pm

I Need Slaves To Explore My Rules Pi Puffer Life And Traffic Flow And To Make The Komal Language!!!Come To Be Enslaved!!!
Requirements:
You Must Work For Nothing And Do Not Be Rebellious.
You Must Be Able To Apgsearch.
You Must Work.
You Must Not Be Lazy.
You Must Know To Make Languages.
Reward: Nothing,Not Even Food And Water. Only Exploring Is Important,Demands Are Not.
Have A Good Day!

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I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by 83bismuth38 » December 3rd, 2020, 9:29 pm

wh- okay what?
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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by andrewph33 » December 10th, 2020, 4:12 am

Problem: almost every country has officially abolished slavery.
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by toroidalet » December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am

Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.

Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » December 10th, 2020, 4:28 am

toroidalet wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am
Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.

Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
Before I knew who the Slavs were, I thought that it had to do something with slaves. I was right! You should post this on the Fun Facts thread (even though this fact isn't really "fun").
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by MathAndCode » December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am

This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
I am tentatively considering myself back.

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Moosey » December 10th, 2020, 12:39 pm

Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 4:28 am
toroidalet wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 4:23 am
Further problem: even though I am not currently a black person, on their behalf I hereby find using the term "slave" to be offensive.

Also, "slave" comes from the Latin word for Slav ("Slavus"; I am not making this up), and so by using it you are insulting your ancestors who were enslaved by the Romans.
Before I knew who the Slavs were, I thought that it had to do something with slaves. I was right! You should post this on the Fun Facts thread (even though this fact isn't really "fun").
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
This is a joke.
I got sad for a reason....
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10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbour(you are kind of my neighbours here).
Have a good day!

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I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Hunting » December 11th, 2020, 7:06 am

BokaBB wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 1:26 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 11:29 am
This post characterizes BokaBB's mindset when dealing with other people. The magnitude is greater than the impression that I had of him beforehand, but the direction is the same. This is the main reason why I don't like investigating BokaBB's rules; it's hard for me to enjoy doing something when I feel that I'm only doing it because I'm someone else's servant.
This is a joke.
I got sad for a reason....
Tenth Commandment of God(note:I translated it):
10. You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbour(you are kind of my neighbours here).
Have a good day!

BokaBB
Point is, when we come to academic stuff, there's no such thing as "my/your discovery/rule". That's the same for your language. I'm officially blocking you.

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am

Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Hunting » December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am
Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.

wwei23

Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am

Hunting wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.
I don't understand what you mean by that. Clarify more? :P

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:04 am
Why shouldn't we dive into our rules headfirst? That's what I do with Symbiosis, and it works. Maybe it would work on Pi Puffer Life and Traffic Flow.
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:

Code: Select all

x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together. :P
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
What do you mean by headfirst? If you mean just manually investigating it, it might work for Symbiosis, but might be harder for others.
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:

Code: Select all

x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together. :P
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!


Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

wwei23

Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:15 am

BokaBB wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
None, if you do it yourself. Python and apgsearch aren't always necessary. :P

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » December 11th, 2020, 10:16 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:10 am
Not necessarily just manually, but I also mean in terms of pattern creation. Take this P13 gun for example:

Code: Select all

x = 39, y = 47, rule = Symbiosis
27.2B$26.A.A2.B$27.2A.A$29.A$22.2A$22.2A9.2A$27.A5.2A$17.B8.A$5.A12.A
7.3A$6.2B11.A17.A$7.B8.BA.2A9.3A2.A2.B$4.A2B9.B6.A.A4.A4.A.AB$4.A12.A
6.2A5.A$5.B7.B10.A10.2A$14.2B21.B$13.2B5.2A$8.2B10.2A$8.2B.A$7.A.A2B$
7.B2.A.A13.2A5.B.2A$8.A10.B.B4.3A4.2A2.A$9.3A8.2B3.A.2A3.2A3.AB$15.2A
3.B4.3A2.3A2.3A$15.2A9.A5.2A4.A$4.2A27.5A$4.2A6.A20.B.A$10.A.A5.A2.A
4.B$11.2A9.A4.2B$.A5.A10.A3.A3.2B$B6.2A10.4A$B2A3.A.A$3.A$2.A8.A$.B8.
2A9.4A$10.A.A7.6A$5.2A11.BA.4A.AB$5.2A12.A6.A$11.2A6.A6.A$9.A.3A4.BA.
A2.A.AB$9.A.A2.B4.A.A2.A.A$10.2B7.A.A2.A.A$18.BA.A2.A.AB$19.A6.A$19.A
6.A$18.BA.4A.AB$20.6A$21.4A!
It's exploration, manual or automated, that gave me all the components to put this together. :P
However, the components came from multiple people, including myself.
That should work many rules, especially Symbiosis, but apgsearching and other search programs are still important. I guess headfirst investigating really is the only way you can investigate Symbiosis, at least for now. It is also much easier to make certain pattern where you don't want certain cells to die. That is still possible in some INT rules, but they are usually very conduity.
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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 11th, 2020, 10:18 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:15 am
BokaBB wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:11 am
What is the price I must pay for some investigation of my rules?I don't know how to install Python and can't apgsearch yet.
Have a good day!

BokaBB
None, if you do it yourself. Python and apgsearch aren't always necessary. :P
What do you think under ,,not nesecarry"?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!


Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

wwei23

Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:21 am

I should have made this clearer: Investigate with whatever tools you can. :P

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 11th, 2020, 10:24 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:21 am
I should have made this clearer: Investigate with whatever tools you can. :P
Can you give me some useful links?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!


Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

wwei23

Re: Slaves Needed

Post by wwei23 » December 11th, 2020, 10:26 am

BokaBB wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:24 am
Can you give me some useful links?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Tutorials/Compiling

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by BokaBB » December 11th, 2020, 10:29 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:26 am
BokaBB wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:24 am
Can you give me some useful links?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Tutorials/Compiling
I will check it.
Can you please see Board And Card Games?
Have a good day!

BokaBB
777
I CAN APGSEARCH NOW!


Sure, I was a bad person, but I have changed myself.
I'd love to befriend anybody who's interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

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Re: Slaves Needed

Post by Hunting » December 12th, 2020, 4:06 am

wwei23 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:06 am
Hunting wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 10:05 am
You can look at the discussions below this thread first to find out what is the problem.
I don't understand what you mean by that. Clarify more? :P
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 33#p115346

Re: All this apgsearch stuff: I barely contribute to LeapLife with search program. I failed to find even a single new speed with qfind, not even a new rotor with apgsearch, and Kittyst and the like are really just "manual search speed ups".

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