Thread for your conduits with active objects uncommonly used in conduits

[TYCF]

B-turner to lumps of muck but it is affected by other debris.

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$6.A.A$8.A$4.4A.2A$4.A2.A.A.A$9.A.A$9.A2.2A$8.2A4.A$10.5A$10.A4.2A
$.3E9.2A2.A$E2.E10.A.2A$2.E11.A$2.E10.2A!

B-turner to various active regions.

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x = 20, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A$8.A.A$10.A$6.4A.2A$6.A2.A.A.A$11.A.A$11.A2.2A$10.2A4.A$12.5A$12.
A4.2A$3.3E9.2A2.A$2.E2.E10.A.2A$4.E11.A$4.E10.2A$6.D$5.D.D$5.D.D$6.D3$
2.2A$3.A$3A$A!

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x = 28, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A$16.A.A$18.A$14.4A.2A$14.A2.A.A.A$19.A.A$19.A2.2A$18.2A4.A$20.5A
$20.A4.2A$11.3E9.2A2.A$10.E2.E10.A.2A$12.E11.A$12.E10.2A3$2.2A$3.A$3A
$A!

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x = 35, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
23.2A$23.A.A$25.A$A20.4A.2A$3A18.A2.A.A.A$3.A22.A.A$2.2A22.A2.2A$25.2A
4.A$27.5A$27.A4.2A$18.3E9.2A2.A$17.E2.E10.A.2A$19.E11.A$19.E10.2A!

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x = 36, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A$24.A.A$2A24.A$.A20.4A.2A$.A.A18.A2.A.A.A$2.2A23.A.A$27.A2.2A$26.
2A4.A$28.5A$28.A4.2A$19.3E9.2A2.A$18.E2.E10.A.2A$20.E11.A$20.E10.2A!

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x = 34, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
22.2A$22.A.A$24.A$20.4A.2A$20.A2.A.A.A$25.A.A$25.A2.2A$24.2A4.A$26.5A
$26.A4.2A$2A15.3E9.2A2.A$2A14.E2.E10.A.2A$18.E11.A$18.E10.2A!

[C28]

Thorn to glider

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x = 21, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
13bo$11b3o$2o8bo$bo8b2o$bobo$2b2o$18b2o$18bo$16bobo$16b2o4$19b2o$19b2o
4$6b2o$7bo$3bo3bo$4b3o5$12b2o$12b2o!

edit: Thorn to B-heptomino

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x = 18, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$16bo$14bobo$10b2o2b2o$10b2o6$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o8$8b2o$9bo$5bo3bo$6b
3o5$14b2o$14b2o!

edit 2: Thorn to glider

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x = 19, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
o$3o5b2o$3bo4bo$2bo3bobo4bo$bo3bobo3b3o$b2o3bo3bo$10b2o6$18bo$16b3o$15b
o$16bo$15b2o2$6b2o$7bo$3bo3bo$4b3o!

edit 3: Thorn to R-pentomino

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x = 18, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
10bob2o$10b2obo2$8b5o$8bo4bo2b2o$11bo2bo2bo$11b2obobo$8bo5bob2o$7bobo
4bo$7bo2bo2b2o$8b2o3$14b2o$14bo$12bobo$12b2o2$16bo$14b3o$13bo$14bo$13b
2o2$3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o!

edit 4: Thorn to glider

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x = 27, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$11bobo$11b2o$24bo$22b3o$21bo$21b2o6$23b2o$23bobo$25bo$25b2o
$3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o13$2o$2o!

edit 5: reduction of the above converter

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x = 27, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$11bobo$11b2o$20bo$19bobo$20bo7$23b2o$23bobo$25bo$25b2o$3b2o
$4bo$o3bo$b3o13$2o$2o!

edit 6: another Thorn to glider

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x = 31, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$11bobo$11b2o13b2o$26b2o13$3b2o$4bo$o3bo$b3o5$30bo$12b2o14b
3o$13bo13bo$10b3o12bo2bo$10bo14b4o2$20b2o3b2o$20b2o4bo$2o24bobo$2o25b
2o!

edit 7: another Thorn to glider

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x = 35, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
13bo9bo$8bo4b3o5b3o4b2o$7bobo6bo3bo7bo$7bobo5b2o3b2o3b2obo$5b3ob2o14b
obo5b2o$4bo28bo$5b3ob2o20bobo$7bob2o20b2o$o$3o$3bo$2b2o8$16b2o$17bo$13b
o3bo$14b3o!

[HerscheltheHerschel]

B-turner to X:

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo2b2o$2bo2bobobo$2b2obobo$5bob2o$2b2obo14b3o$o2bobo13bo2bo$2o
2bo4b2o10bo$8bo2bo9bo$2o2bo4b2o$o2bobo$2b2obo$5bob2o$2b2obobo$2bo2bobo
bo$3bobo2b2o$4b2o!

It produces a temporary glider that destroys the beehive. Can anyone find a way to delete the temporary glider?

[b-engine]

B-turner to X:

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B-turner-to-X

It produces a temporary glider that destroys the beehive. Can anyone find a way to delete the temporary glider?

Adding a block will turn the glider into block or beehive:

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo2b2o$2bo2bobobo$2b2obobo$5bob2o$2b2obo14b3o$o2bobo13bo2bo$2o
2bo4b2o10bo$8bo2bo9bo$2o2bo4b2o$o2bobo$2b2obo$5bob2o$2b2obobo$2bo2bob
obo$3bobo2b2o5b2o$4b2o9b2o!

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x = 23, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$3bobo2b2o$2bo2bobobo$2b2obobo$5bob2o$2b2obo14b3o$o2bobo13bo2bo$2o
2bo4b2o10bo$8bo2bo9bo$2o2bo4b2o$o2bobo$2b2obo$5bob2o$2b2obobo$2bo2bob
obo$3bobo2b2o6b2o$4b2o10b2o!

[Anivec]

This thread already exists here

[dvgrn]

This thread already exists here

Yup, I"m not sure exactly what happened there. The moderator logs show that I merged some posts to this "Thread for your conduits with active objects uncommonly used in conduits" -- but then these posts showed up in their own separate thread, and didn't seem to get merged.

Sorry about the confusion. I think things are back to normal now.

Until a "B-turner" gets a lot more mainstream -- i.e., until there are conduits that can output a B-turner with reasonable clearance -- conduits with B-turner inputs don't seem to belong on the Still-Life Factories thread, any more than they belong in the Elementary Conduits thread.

I'm hoping people interested in B-turner research can get in the habit of picking a thread like this one, or the "speculative" thread, to post things like this.

I've been having to move a lot of posts recently, which is not really my job (since the conwaylife forums are really only "reluctantly moderated"). If possible, it's the job of the person posting to pay attention to where posts should go, especially after previous posts have gotten moved.

[C28]

Thorn to LWSS

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x = 21, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$3b2ob2o8bo$3b2obo7bobo$6bo7b2o$o5b2o10b2o$3o15bo$3bo12bobo$2b2o
12b2o14$8b2o$9bo$5bo3bo9b2o$6b3o10b2o5$14b2o$14b2o!

[confocaloid]

Thorn to LWSS

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x = 21, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
16b2o$3b2ob2o8bo$3b2obo7bobo$6bo7b2o$o5b2o10b2o$3o15bo$3bo12bobo$2b2o
12b2o14$8b2o$9bo$5bo3bo9b2o$6b3o10b2o5$14b2o$14b2o!

And there is at least a compatible 3G collision:

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x = 36, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
31b2o$18b2ob2o8bo$18b2obo7bobo$21bo7b2o$15bo5b2o10b2o$15b3o15bo$18bo
12bobo$17b2o12b2o4$9bo$10bo$8b3o10$34b2o$34b2o5$29b2o$29b2o5$2o$b2o$o
8bo$9b2o$8bobo!

[C28]

E-heptomino to Procrastinator

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x = 30, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$8b2o4$28bo$27bobo$28b2o5$2bo$2bobo$2b3o17b2obo$3bo18b2ob3o$28bo$
22b2ob3o$23bobo$23bobo$24bo8$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!

[hth3]

This B-turner to B is probably known.

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x = 10, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2o5bo$2o4bo2bo$6b3o!

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Interchange predecessor to LWSS:

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x = 13, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$3b2obo2bo$3bob3o$2obo$bob2ob2o$o6bo$b2ob2o$2bobo4bo$2bobo2b2ob2o$
3bo8bo$6bo!

[confocaloid]

edit: apparently essentially the same above reaction was posted elsewhere with more relevant details, without mentioning that here:
viewtopic.php?p=206745#p206745

Now the question is if there are compatible non-contraptions converting a Herschel to the hitting sequence? Here are four compatible seeds from the octohash database.

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x = 137, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
11bobo37bobo37bobo37bobo$10bob2o36bob2o36bob2o36bob2o$8b3o37b3o37b3o
37b3o$7bo4b4o31bo4b4o31bo4b4o31bo4b4o$8b3obo2bo32b3obo2bo32b3obo2bo32b
3obo2bo$10bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo35bo3bo$12bob2o25bo10bob2o26bo9bob2o36bob
2o$b2o8b2obo25bobo8b2obo26bobo7b2obo36b2obo$obo4b2o7bo24bobo3b2o7bo25b
obo3bo7bo31bo7bo$2o4bo2bo5b2o25b2o2bo2bo5b2o26b2o2bobo5b2o26b2o2bobo5b
2o$6bobo37bobo38b2o35bo3bo$7bo39bo73b3o$121bo2$30b2o39b2o$29bobo38bobo
$6b2o23bo40bo$5b2o$7bo2$130b2o$130bobo$130bo!

[Anivec]

This was going to be a dependent H-to-W but the spark from the loaf predecessor screws up the evolution to make a different object: (see generation 15)

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A$.2A13.A$3A.2A8.A.A$.2A.3A7.2A$3A.2A3.A$2A6.A.A$7.A2.A$8.2A3$6.2A
.2A$5.A.A.A.A$3.3A3.A.A$2.A4.A.A.3A$3.3A.2A.A3.A$5.A4.A2.2A$7.3A$6.2A
!

[Anivec]

Spineless plagiarism time!!! Octonimo II-to-G:

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x = 12, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
$3b2o3b2o$3bobobo2bo$5bob2o2bo$4b2o3b2o$6bobo$2o4bobo$b2o4bo$2b2o4b3o
$b2o7bo2$4b2o$4bo$5b3o$7bo!

Sadly, it doesn't work with either of the other octonimo II conduits mentioned recently, but it's still really cool!
EDIT: This is true.

There’s another one, but it produces an extra blinker. (I hate blinkers)

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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo$5b2o3bobo$5b2o3b2o2$2o$2o5b2o3b2o$6bo2bobo2bo$7b2o3b2o4$17b
o$16b3o$15b2obo$15bo!

[synperiplanar]

octomino II to mild chaos, from Anivec's most recent post in search results dump

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4b3o$7bo4bo$6b2o3bobo$11bobo$10b2ob2o$9bo4bo$9bob2o$8b2obo$11bo$11b
ob2o$2bo7b2ob2o$b3o$2obo$o3$12b2o$12b2o!

edit: fixed
edit 2:another from the same dump

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8bo$6b3o$5bo$5b2o6$2bo$b3o$2obo$o!

(also thats a lot of searching on the pi heptomino that you did there...)

[Anivec]

There’s another one, but it produces an extra blinker. (I hate blinkers)

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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$12bo$5b2o3bobo$5b2o3b2o2$2o$2o5b2o3b2o$6bo2bobo2bo$7b2o3b2o4$17b
o$16b3o$15b2obo$15bo!

Here's an octomino II to X:

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x = 25, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$18bo$15b2obo$14bo2bo$14b2o10$2bo$b3o$2obo$o3$14b2o3b2o$14bobo2b
2o$15b2o3$18b2obo$18b2ob3o$24bo$18b2ob3o$19bobo$19bobo$20bo!

[Timelord Missionary]

So, I was looking around for more octomino II outputters, and I found this:

Next, Convert it, but don't eat it nor let it die since it's a spark:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b3o$5bo2$3o$bo!

Octomino II:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$b3o$4bo$3b2o$9bo$8b3o$10bo$2o$2o3b3o$6bo!

Next:

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x = 10, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
10o2$6bo!

It looks pretty alright, but it doesn't look like there exist any conduits that make that symmetrical thingy (also, a spark). The one thing that looks like it would produce it would be a collision between a pi and a glider:

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x = 7, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b2o$obo$o$obo$b2o$4b2o$4bobo$4bo!

Does it look familiar to literally anybody? I feel like I've seen it somewhere, but I haven't the slightest clue where to look for it.

[Rhombicubocta]

Timelord Missionary, I think that object is a traffic light predecessor interacting with a r-Pentomino.

[I6_I6]

So, I was looking around for more octomino II outputters, and I found this:

Next, Convert it, but don't eat it nor let it die since it's a spark:

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b3o$5bo2$3o$bo!

Does it look familiar to literally anybody? I feel like I've seen it somewhere, but I haven't the slightest clue where to look for it.

It reminds me of this spark:

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x = 4, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo$obo$obo$b2o4$2b2o$2b2o!

[NNlk05]

Pi to pi with an extra blinker using an active region I've never seen before.

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x = 21, y = 20, rule = B3/S23Super
12.3D$12.DBD$11.BDBDB$11.5B$11.7B.B$2A8.7B.B2A$.A5.6B2D4B2A$.A.AB.5BD
B2D2B.2B$2.2AB.5BD2BHDB$4.8BDBH2B$4.2B3E5BH2B$4.2BE.E8B$2.4BE.E6B.B2A
$2.2AB3.6B2.BA.A$3.A5.4B6.A$3A7.5B4.2A$A12.2A$13.A$14.3A$16.A!

The active region in question:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$ob2o$o3bo$bo!

[WhiteHawk]

Pi to pi with an extra blinker using an active region I've never seen before.

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The active region in question:

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I don't think it's connectible

[Anivec]

I don't think it's connectible

It is definitely not.

[Anivec]

So, I was looking around for more octomino II outputters

You can have this R-to-Octomino II:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$7bobo$6b2ob3o$12bo$6b2ob3o$6b2obo3$2o$b2o$bo!

[I6_I6]

So, I was looking around for more octomino II outputters

You can have this R-to-Octomino II:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
8bo$7bobo$7bobo$6b2ob3o$12bo$6b2ob3o$6b2obo3$2o$b2o$bo!

Reduction:

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x = 10, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
9bo$7b3o$6bo$6b2o3$2o$b2o$bo!