Construction Challenges and Ideas

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by confocaloid » May 7th, 2025, 11:26 am

Imagine an oscillator that looks roughly like this:

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x = 180, y = 89, rule = LifeHistory
3.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.
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81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C
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$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B
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2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.
2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D
2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.
2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.
81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.
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2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.
81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C
2.2D2.81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.
81B2.2D$4.81B10.81B$2C2.81B2.2C2.2D2.81B2.2D$2C85.2C2.2D85.2D2$3.2C.
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.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D$3.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.2C.
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.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D.2D!
The state-2 regions are replaced by some configuration of alive and dead cells and its mirror image. The oscillator would be almost symmetric in that phase, except the "wall"[1] is only present around one of two halves. After (period/2) ticks, the oscillator would be mirrored through the vertical axis, so that the "wall" would be present only around the other half. The oscillator would evolve by each half simultaneously testing whether or not there's a "wall" around it, and then doing something depending on the result of the test:
  • the half that detected a "wall" around it, proceeds to cleanly destroy the "wall" from inside, and then proceeds to build the "wall" around the other half (which during that time remains confined within a sufficiently small bounding box without interacting/interfering with the "wall"-building process).
  • the half around which there is no "wall", proceeds to wait in place (enough time for the other half to construct the wall) and then performs the same test again.
The resulting high-period oscillator could be described as "two Rube Goldberg devices jailing each other".

[1]: in the above illustration, the "wall" is made out of blocks forming pseudo still life objects. However, it doesn't have to be blocks, it could be another arrangement of objects that looks like a "wall".
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[...] It jailed itself for failing to jail anything, creating paradox and fills the universe with jails:

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x = 221, y = 191, rule = B3/S23Super
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by LuveelVoom » May 7th, 2025, 11:28 am

Speaking of detecting structures, one could feasibly construct a spaceship which tests its surroundings for “food” (blocks or such) and moves in that direction, simulating a real life form.

Does something like this exist naturalistically in non-ruletable OCA?
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by confocaloid » May 7th, 2025, 11:33 am

If it only moves when there is some nonempty configuration nearby, and if it can't move through empty space otherwise, then it wouldn't count as a spaceship.

It sounds like a fuse that could "turn around corners"; the fuse (the "burning" reaction) would move in the direction of the remaining part of the wick. There should be many examples of fuses that would fit your description, once the word "spaceship" is removed.
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Speaking of detecting structures, one could feasibly construct a spaceship which tests its surroundings for “food” (blocks or such) and moves in that direction, simulating a real life form. [...]
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Resu » June 19th, 2025, 12:11 pm

Make a sawtooth with two parts that are receding from each other at 90 degrees:
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by LuveelVoom » June 26th, 2025, 8:34 pm

Simple one: pi ship where the front end moves at c/3 instead of c/2.
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by PK22 » June 27th, 2025, 12:07 pm

LuveelVoom wrote:
June 26th, 2025, 8:34 pm
Simple one: pi ship where the front end moves at c/3 instead of c/2.
Done:

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x = 233, y = 205, rule = B3/S23
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$10bo5bobobobo5bo16bob2o7b2obo36bo42bobo31bo4bo3bo4bo17b2o5bobo5b2o$
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106b4o9b3o5b2o4b4obo3b3o2b2o9b2o2b3o$11b2o5bobo5b2o17b2o11b2o74bo27b2o
b2o3bo3bo12b4ob8o4b2ob2o9b2ob2o$11b2o5bobo5b2o21bo5bo77bo28b2o2bo5b4o
5bo16b2o5bobo11bobo$10bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo15bo2b2obo3bob2o2bo72b3o25bo2b
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5bob2obo4bo2bobo10bobobo3bo3bo3bobobo$11bobobo7bobobo7b2ob2o10bo3bo
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$9bo3bo4b3o4bo3bo5b2o2b3o60bo76bobo7bo2bo13bob2o7b2obo$8bo4b2obo5bob2o
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47b2o163bobo$13b3ob2ob2ob3o84bo102bo$12bo4b2ob2o4bo81bobo113b2o$15b3o
3b3o85b2o113b2ob2o$12b4obo3bob4o191b2o4b2o2b4o$12b5o5b5o191b2ob2o4bo4b
o$10b2o5bo3bo5b2o167bo20bo3b2o7b2o$197bo15bo7b2o$10bo5bo2bo2bo5bo166b
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3o28bo82b2o92bo$2bob2o3bo27b3o$b3o3b3o2b3o3b3o$o3bo4b3obobo2b3o$bo7bo
4bo3bobo$10b2o6bobo94bobo$18bobo95b2o79b2o14bo$19bo96bo80bobo12b4o$
191bo5bo9bo3bo3b2ob2o$190b2o14b4o5bo2b2o$190bobo12bo3bo7bo2bo$183b3o
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6bo$19b2o7bo4bo80bo55bobo$16b2ob2o9b2obo5bo124bo5bo$13b4o2b2o4b2o12b2o
122b2o$12bo4bo4b2ob2o11bobo122bobo$13b2o7b2o3bo17b3o75bo32b3o$22b2o23b
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bo$60bo5bo70bo5bo$66b2o68b2o$65bobo68bobo$72b3o32bo21b3o$74bo31bo22bo$
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$99b3o$101bo$100bo3$103b2o21b2o$103b2o21b2o8$103b2o21b2o$103b2o21b2o8$
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2o8b2ob2o8b2o$103b2o21b2o!
Suggested challenge (if it has not been done already): Create a Spartan construction arm with push, pull, and two fire operations (each triggered by a single glider) that works with repeat time 90.
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by dl-rs » July 3rd, 2025, 11:02 am

A notable construction idea, by yyh_baboon. The (31,5)c/137 climber from silversmith:
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Based on a non-reburnable crawler posted by discord user mvr, I made a (31,5)c/137 oblique crawler.

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x = 291, y = 143, rule = B3/S23
286bo$286bo$286bo2$288b3o2$254b3o29bo$286bo$258bo27bo$258bo$224bo33bo$
224bo$224bo29b3o2$226b3o2$192b3o29bo$224bo$196bo27bo$196bo$162bo33bo$
162bo$162bo29b3o2$164b3o2$130b3o29bo$162bo$134bo27bo$134bo134bo$134bo
7b2o125bo$88bobo51b2o125bo$83b3o7b2o5bo29b3o$83bo2b2o4bobo4b3o169b3o$
83b2ob4o8b2ob2o$85b3o11b3o9b2o124b3o29bo$100bo10b2o156bo$241bo27bo$67b
o173bo$67bo139bo33bo7b2o$67bo139bo41b2o$207bo29b3o$69b3o$209b3o$35b3o
29bo150b2o$67bo107b3o14bo14bo10b2o$39bo27bo78bobo44b2o12bo$39bo109bo
29bo12b2o13bo$5bo33bo103b3ob2o30bo$5bo142bobo28bo7b2o$5bo29b3o111bo37b
2o$143b3o3bo25b3o$7b3o2$5bo150b2o$5bo139b2o9b2o$5bo140bo$112bo31b3o$
112bo30bobo$112bo30b2o$143b2o$114b3o2$80b3o29bo$112bo$84bo27bo$84bo$
50bo33bo$50bo$50bo29b3o$137b3o$52b3o84bo141b3o$138bo$18b3o29bo165bo68b
o$50bo165b2o40bo26bo$22bo27bo164bobo33bo7bo25bo$22bo228bo5b3o$22bo228b
o29b3o2$18b3o232b3o2$219b3o29bo$251bo$223bo27bo$160b2o61bo$159b2o28bo
33bo$161bo27bo$189bo29b3o2$191b3o2$157b3o29bo$189bo74b3o$161bo27bo$
161bo106bo$127bo33bo106bo$127bo106bo33bo7b2o$127bo29b3o74bo41b2o$234bo
29b3o$129b3o$138b2o96b3o$95b3o29bo10b2o105b2o$77bo13b2o34bo74b3o29bo
10b2o$77b3o9bob3o5bo27bo106bo$77bobo10b4o5bo106bo27bo$79bo19bo7b2o97bo
$107b2o63bo33bo7b2o$95b3o56bo17bo41b2o$150b6o16bo29b3o$62b3o84b2ob2o2b
o$149b2o3bob2o16b3o$66bo84b4obo26b2o$66bo85b2o18bo10b2o$32bo33bo105bo$
32bo106bo32bo$32bo29b3o74bo$139bo$34b3o$141b3o$3o29bo$32bo74b3o29bo$4b
o27bo106bo$4bo106bo27bo$4bo106bo$77bo33bo$3o74bo$77bo29b3o2$79b3o2$45b
3o29bo$77bo$49bo27bo$49bo$15bo33bo$15bo$15bo29b3o2$17b3o2$15bo$15bo$
15bo
Included in the design are portions which produce NW and SE gliders, which could be then used for kickback reactions.
A basic design for a partial has been sketched by yyh_baboon, hand-drawn.
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x = 23, y = 11, rule = B2n3-jknr4ky5-eqry6ik7c8/S234cktwz5ai6-ci7c
2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo$b2ob5ob2o6b2ob2o$2bo2b3o2bo7bo2bo4$10b2o$b3o5bobo$2o
b2o4b3o$b3o5bobo$10b2o!

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by PK22 » July 3rd, 2025, 11:54 am

Idea 1: An RCT that can be run to completion (producing the target object and nothing else) in <24 hours on a typical desktop PC - in other words, an RCT optimised for speed rather than minimum glider cost. This would probably involve using a 2EC, like the original 329G variant, a more efficient construction arm which is present from the start (there might be a way to encode 4 operations using 2 2ECs), and a pre-prepared seed to destroy the constructor, in order to offload the minimum possible amount of work (and therefore time) to the recipe.
Idea 2: A Blockic reflector that creates an RCT (ideally optimised for real-world runtime) which is used to rebuild the blocks (and create an additional glider).
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Resu » July 9th, 2025, 1:35 pm

Reduce the Growing/shrinking line ship.
Edit: Reduced by 12 cells:

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x = 896, y = 798, rule = B3/S23
360b3o$359bo3bo$358bo4bo8b2o3b3o$358bo2bobo7b4o$358b2obobo6bo3b2o$360b
2obo2bo4b2obobo$362b2o2bo$363b3o13bo6b2o$376bo2bo6b2o$377b3o3$386b2o$
385b2o4bo$385b2o2bob2obo$385b2o2bo5bo$388bobo4bo$385bo3b6o$385bob2obo
$366b2o13b2o$366b2o4bo8b2o$371bobo7bo$354bo15bo3bo5bo$353b3o16b2o5bob
o$352b3obo14b2o$342b3o6b2o3b2o14bo$341bo8b2obo2b2o13b2o$341bo3bo5b2ob
ob2o14b2o$339b2o3b2o6b3ob2o$338bo2bobo2bo7bo4bo$338bo2bobo2b2o7b4o$340b
2ob2o2bo9bo$341bo4bo$344b2ob2o$343b4o$344b2o3$352b2o$344bo6bo2bo$345b
o6b2o$344bo4$349b2o$342bo5bo2bo8b2o$342bo5bo2bo7bo2bo$342bo4b2ob2o8b2o
$348b2o3$336bo7bo$335b3o5bobo$334b2ob4o2bo2bo$335b3o2bo$336bo2b2o2bo$
340b2obobo$344bo$313bo6b2o$312bobo3bo3bo$311bo3bobo3b2o$312bobo2bobob
2o$313bo3bo2b2o$317bo4bo$318bo2bo10b2o$320bo11b2o3$334b2o$333b2o$339b
2o$340b2o$336b5o$327bo7b2obo$316b3o7bo2bo7bo$315bobob2o5bo3bo$315bobo
b2o5bo3bo$315bo3bo5b2o3bo4b3o$316bobo7bo2bo4b2o2bo$317bo15bo3b2o$332b
o2b3o$331bo2b2o$331bo2bo12bobo$332bo2bo11b2o$320b2o13bo12bo$320b2o11b
obo2$331bo$329bob2o$328bo2b2o$329b2obo$329b2ob2o$330bobo$292bobo19b3o
14bo$278bobo7bo2bo2bo$277b2ob2o5bobob2obo23bo$278bob2o6bo25bo3b2o$282b
o11b3o19bobo$281bo13b2o16b3o15bo$281bo12b2o7b2o10bo16b2o$303b2o26b3o$
314b2o$315b2o$315bo$315b2o$314b2o$273bo$272bobo5bo30b2o18bo$278b2ob2o
28b2o16b2o$253bo18b3o2bo3b2o47b2o$252b3o23b2ob2o$251b2ob2o22b4o3b3o$250b
2obobo34bo$249b3o2b3o32bobo$250bo6bo32bo40bobo$251b5obo73b2o$252b4ob2o
73bo$257bo43bo$256bo44b2o$300bobo2$230bobo19b3o$229bo22b4o$230bo2bo17b
o4bo$232bobo16bobo3bo$235bo15b3ob2o$234b3o10b3o$234bo5bo5bobo2bo$207b
2o23b2o6bo4bo4b2o$207b3o24bo5bo4b2o2b3o$207b2obo21bo2bo5bo2bobo$211bo
13bo6bobo7bo4bo$203bo3b2o3bo12bo6bo10b2ob2o$213bo11bo19bo23bo$210bobo
56b2o$210bo57bobo$205bo4bobo13bo$224b2ob2o24b2o$209b4o40b2o8bo$209b2o
12bobo36b2o3bo47bo$223bo3bo34bo50b2o$223b2o2bo33b2ob3o47b2o$224b3o35b
o$225bo41bo$266bo$261bo3b2o$261bobo51bobo$315b2o$316bo$213b2o$213b2o45b
3o$259bo$258bo4b2o$257bo3bo15b3o$257bo2bo4bo4b2o$257bo3bo3bo4b3obo$258b
2obob3o$221b2o38bo$221b2o39b4o20b2o$264b2o11bob2o5b2o$277bo2bo$186bo90b
3o$185b3o98bo$184bobobo97bo4bo$183b3ob3o12bo82bobo2bobo$201bobo81bobo
bo3bo$185bob3o13b2o79bo4b3o2b2o$185b5o9bo3bo85bobo3bo$185b2o2b2o11bo2b
2o81b2o$187bob2o14bo80bo4b2obo$189b2o9bo2b2o61b2o13bo$185bobo2bo11bo7b
2o54b2o3b3o6bo18bo$184bobo2bo20b2o42bo16bobo5bo2bo14b2o$185bo67b2o16b
o2bo4bo2bo15b2o$252b5o14b3o6b2o$242b2o7bo21bo$250b2o5bo14bo$200b2o39b
o3bo3b3ob2o16bobo$246bo3bobob2o2b2o11b2o26bobo$200b2o37bo7bo3bo2bo2b2o
13bo26b2o$218bo19bo4bo9b2o45bo$201bobo9bo3bobo19bobobo4bo6b2obo$202bo
10b5ob2o18bo8bo9bo$190b2o10b2ob2o7bo4bo20bo4b2obo$178b3o9b3ob2o8b2o9b
2obo22bob2ob3o$193bo2bo8b2o10bo24b3ob2o$176bo5bo11b3ob5obobo3bo$176b7o
13bo3bo2b3o4bo$178bo17bo2b2o2bo2bo$178bo3bo14b2o3b3obo45b2o$177bo18b2o
6b3o44bo2bo$178bo16b2o55b2o$130bo48bo4bo10b2obo$128b2ob2o46bo4bo12bo$
178b2obobo$131b2o44bobo$132bo45bo70b2o$126bo3bo15b2o94bo5bo2b2o7b2o$130b
o3bo11b2o94bo4b3o2bo6bo2bo$242bo4bo4bo7b2o$247b5o$128bo43bo75b2o$129b
3o39bobo5bo55b2o$177b2ob2o8b2o46b2o4bo38bo$147bo23b3o2bo3b2o8b2o43b2o
b4o3bo35b2o$129b3o13bobo6b2o21b2ob2o50b5o4b4o37b2o$129b3o13bobo6b2o21b
4o54b3o6bo$129b2ob2o12bo89bo$133bo12b2o87b3o$131b3o12b2o64b2o28bo$213b
o2bo4bo20bo40bobo$198b2o10bo2b3obo2bobo60b2o$141b2o55b2o10bo2bo4b4o62b
o$140b6o64bo2bo$140bo3b2o67bo6bo$122b3o15bo2bo68b2obo$122b3o16b3o76bo
11b2o$123bo17b2o41b3o31b2o14bo$124b2o20b2o26b4o4b4ob2o43b3o$125bo21b2o
25bobob2o4b2o2bo44b2o$124bo21bo28b2o9b3o44bobo$177bo3bobo49bo5bobo$234b
4o4bo$234bo7bo$122b2o49b2o61b4o$122b2o39bo3b2o4b3o58b2ob2o$123bo39bob
2o2bo6bo52bo4b2obo$123bo39bo2b5o2b4o52bobo2b2obo$122bobo42b3o3b3o37bo
2bo12b2obo2bo2bo$121bo44b3o45b3ob3o11b3o37b2o$122bo2b2o39b2o46b2obobo
11bo7bo31bo2bo$123bo3bo38bo49b3o13bo7bo30bo2bo$125b2o19bo70b2o13bob6o
32b2o$125bo19bob2o89bo37b2o$149bo125bo2bo$114b2obo25bo3bo2bo124bo2bo$
113b3obo6bobo14bo9bo11b3o54b2o54b2o$112bo4bobo4bo9b2o5bo4b2o2b2o68b2o
58b2o$113b2o6bobo3bo6b2o14b2o108b2o18bobo$114bo3bo2bo2b2o17bo5bo16bo63b
3o26bobo21bo$117bob2o3bo19bo4b3o13bobo80b2o11bo22bo$116bobo26bo4b2o14b
o13bo49b2obo13bobo35bo$116bobo28b4o28bo51bob2o14bo36bo$179b3o48b2ob2o
50b2o$229bo3bo$142b2o86b3o55b2o$142b2o86b3o34b3o18bobo$269bo21bo$268b
o23bo$293bo$134b2o134b2obo20bo$123bo7bob4o132b3obo6bobo10b2o$124bo5b2o
bo3b2o129bo4bobo4bo$122bobo6bo2b2ob2o13b2o115b2o6bobo3bo12b2o$123bo8b
6o14b2o74b2o40bo3bo2bo2b2o14bobo$133bo93bobo43bob2o3bo18bo$216b2o11bo
42bobo16b2o7bo$215bobo54bobo16b2o8bo$217bo84bo$103b3o195b2o$102bo3bo11b
obo$103b2o55b2o142b2o$105b2ob2o50b2o73b3o66bobo$107b2o9b2o117bo69bo$92b
o27bo31bo83bo62b2o7bo$92bo57b2ob2o135b2o7b2o8bo$92bo184bo9bob4o17bo$89b
ob3obo57b2o117bo3b5o5b2obo3b2o14b2o$89bob5o58bo116bobo7b2o4bo2b2ob2o$
93bobo52bo3bo118bo7bob2o5b6o18b2o$90b2o15b3o42bo3bo39b2o74bo8b2o6bo22b
obo$90b2o103bobo75bo3b4o34bo$91bo92b2o11bo80b3o35bo$91b2o17bo39bo13bo
18bobo76bobo9b2o41bo$92bo3b2o11bobo39b3o9bo21bo76bobobo6bobo42bo$92bo
17bo52b3o95bo2b2obo4b2o43b2o$90bob2o168b2o3bobob2obo$91bo59b3o108b2o3b
2ob5o45b2o$151b3o49b3o60bob2o3b2o45bobo$120bo30b2ob2o49bo59bobo55bo$119b
o35bo48bo119bo86bo$119b3o31b3o169bo84b3o$326bo83bo2bo$325b2o83b3o$410b
3o14b2o$328b2o79bob2obo12b2o$164b2o86bo75bobo79bo2b3o$96b2o65bobo84b2o
b2o76bo78b4ob2o$96b2o67bo87b2o11b2o64bo78bob3o$250b3o13b2o65bo79b3o10b
o$252bo3bo77bo79b2o10bo$251bo3bo77b2o92bo$252b3obo168bobo7b2o$95b3o156b
2o80b2o72b2o16bo6b2o$94bo76b3o79bobo80bobo71b2obo$94bo3bo5b2o67bo80bo
84bo70b4o12bobo$92b2o3b2o5b2o66bo80b2o19b2o64bo71bo14b2o$91bo2bobo2bo
153b2o19b2o65bo$91bo2bobo2b2o153b2o86bo82bo$93b2ob2o2bo152b3o85b2o82b
o$94bo4bo137bobo182b3o$97b2ob2o135bobobo30b3o69b2o75bo2bo$96b4o32b2o102b
o2b2obo28bo72bobo74bo2bo$73bo23b2o32bobo103b2o3bobob2obo21bo3bo71bo55b
3o15bo$57b2ob2o6bob2o2b2o57bo103b2o3b2ob5o19b2o3b2o6b2o64bo54bobo17b2o
$57b2o8bob5o167bob2o3b2o18bo2bobo2bo5b2o65bo52bo3bo8b3o$57b2obobo5bo4b
2o165bobo25bo2bobo2b2o72bo51bo3bo5b5o9b3o$60bobo11bobo20bo172b2ob2o2b
o71b2o51bo11b3o11bo$61b2o35bo172bo4bo125bo4b2o5bo12bo$74b3o6b2o12bo176b
2ob2o73b2o48bo6bo$83b2o54b3o85bo45b4o75bobo26bo21bo5bo$104bo36bo83b2o
b2o44b2o79bo24b3o20b2o$103bo36bo84b2ob2o126bo23bo2bo21bo3bo$102bo2bo119b
2o130bo22b3o23bobo$95bo5bo3bo121b2obo127bo21b3o14b2o$84b2o9bo5bo2bo123b
o2bo125b2o20bob2obo12b2o4b2o$83bo2bo8bo4b2ob2o123bo2bo148bo2b3o16bo$83b
o2b2o3b2o8b2o126b2o21b2o106b2o18b4ob2o14bo2bo$83bob2o4b2o158bo108bobo
18bob3o14bo2bobo$80bo2bobo165bo2bo108bo19b3o10bo4bobo$80b2o122b2o21bo
21b2ob4o108bo19b2o10bo4b2o$63b2o14bo123bo22bobo19bo116bo31bo$63b2o9b2o
2b2o123bo2bo41bo3b3o2bo108bo28bobo$74b2o2bo122b2ob4o18b4o13b2o3bo2bo2b
ob3o106b2o13b2o16bo$68bo6bob2o121bo19bobo6bo13b2o5b2o4b3o121b2obo$66b
4o6b2o122bo3b3o2bo6bobo33b2obobo110b2o10b4o12bobo$65bo3bo37b3o90bo2bo
2bob3o3bo3b2o3b2o28b2obo111bobo11bo14b2o$50b3o11b3ob2o39bo72bo19b2o4b
3o4bo6bobo31bo114bo$49bo3bo11bo2bo39bo72b2o21b2obobo6b2o2bob2o148bo23b
o$50b2o14b2o112b5o20b2obo9b3ob2o149bo21bo$35bo16b2ob2o122bo19bo8bo10b
o154bo19b3obo$31b5o7b2o9b2o122b2o5bo13bo28b2o21b2o120b2o19b2o2b2o$31b
o3bobo4b3o132b3ob2o8bobo5bo51b2o141b2o2b2o$31b3o3b3o3b3o132bobob2o2b2o
3bobo48bo39b2o92b2o$37b2o2b3o135bo2bo2b2o5bo49b2o37b4o91bobo6b2o7b2o$
37bo143b2o58bobo37b2ob2o93bo5b2o7bo4bo$34b3o146b2obo40b2o54b2o95bo13b
o4bo$34b2o150bo12b3o25b2o152bo13bobo$197b2o2bo35b4o141bo$198b3o35bo2b
3o139b2o$37bo161bo37bo3bo$36bobo198bo2bo97b2o44b2o$36bobo36bob3o158b3o
96b4o43bobo6b2o$37bo33bob2ob4o257b2ob2o45bo5b2o$68b2o5b5o155b2o102b2o
47bo$24bo55bo154b2o68b3o81bo$24bo46bo7bo310bo$24bo44b2ob4o3bo223bo5bo
81bo$28bo16bo22b6o2b2o109b2o114b7o12bo69bo$24b3o2bo14bobo22b2obo114b2o
116bo17b2o68bo$23bo4bo15bobo24bo233bo3bo13b2o69bo$23bo3bo17bo258bo17b
2obo69bo$24b3o278bo18b3o62bo6bo$3o303bo4bo11bob2o61bobo6bo$306bo4bo11b
2o63bo2bo6bo$4b2o17bobo279b2obobo12bo6b2o57b2o8bo$6bo10b3o3bobo169b2o
107bobo23b2o68bo$4obo11bo5bobo169b2o108bo95bo$5o18bobo376bo$24b2o377b
o$17bo2bo383bo$obo14bob2o384bo$obo14bo2bo385bo$bo15bobo375bo11bo$obo14b
3o300b3o15bo55bobo11bo$b2o319bo10bobobob2o20b2o31bobo12bo$bo319bo2bo8b
ob3ob2o21b2o31bo14bo$299bo10bobo9b2ob2o6bo5b2o20bo49bo$299bo10bob4o7b
o11b4o66bo6bo$299bo11b3o2b2ob3obo2bo9b2o66bobo6bo$296bob3obo11bobo2b4o
3bo77bo2bo6bo$16bo279bob5o13bobo7bo78b2o8bo$14b2ob2o281bobo13bob4o4bo
89bo$14b3ob2o254bobo20b2o19b2o2bo3b2o89bo$15b5o253bo23b2o16bo2bo5bobo
91bo$5b2o9b3o255bo2bo20bo26bo93bo$5b2o10bo258bobo19b2o15bo104bo$279bo
11b3o5bo3b2o11b2o103bo$278b3o18bo122bo$278bo18bob2o110bo11bo$276b2o20b
o111bobo11bo$278bo13b3o34b2o79bobo12bo$276bo2bo12b3o35b2o79bo14bo$13b
2o256bo4bobo13b2o35bo97bo$13b2o255b2o4bo14bo129bo6bo$269bob2o16b2o2bo
126bobo6bo$269bo2b2o10bo5bo3bo125bo2bo6bo$267b4ob3o8bobo4bo2bo127b2o8b
o$266bo2bobo2b2o7bobo5b3o138bo$267bobobob3o8bo148bo$268b2ob3obo63bo94b
o$247b3o18b4o2bobo61bobo5bo88bo$246bo24bo3bo68b2ob2o87bo$246bo3bo20bo
3bo62b3o2bo3b2o88bo$244b2o3b2o20bo2bo17bo51b2ob2o89bo$243bo2bobo2bo39b
obo50b4o79bo11bo$243bo2bobo2b2o38bobo64b2o51bo14bobo11bo$245b2ob2o2bo
39bo65b2o50bobo13bobo12bo$246bo4bo158bobo14bo14bo$249b2ob2o156bo2bo29b
o$248b4o159bobo23bo6bo$249b2o13b2o148bo21bobo6bo$264b2o110b3o34b2o21b
o2bo6bo$375bo2bo34bo13b2o8b2o8bo$366b2o10bo48b2o19bo$249bo15bo6bo93b2o
10bo70bo$250bo14bo2b6o18bo58b3o21bobo72bo$249bo14bo8bo18bo48b4o4b4ob2o
55bo39bo$265b2obob3o19bo8bo39bobob2o4b2o2bo54bobo39bo$265b2obob2o27bo
bo40b2o9b3o56bo40bo$267bo25b3o2bo3bo41bo3bobo61bo41bo$254b2o38bob5o111b
o22b2o6bo11bo$247bo5bo2bo43bo134b2o5bobo11bo$247bo5bo2bo38b2o15b2o18b
o80bo28bobo12bo$247bo4b2ob2o8b3o44b2o18bo5b3o68b2ob3o28bo14bo$253b2o13b
o62bobo3b2o2bo69b3ob2o42bo$265bo2bo63bo3bo5bo71bo38bo6bo$266b2o64bo3b
o115bobo6bo$337bo2b2o110bo2bo6bo$259bo78b2o64bo19b2o27b2o8bo$257bobo143b
obo16bo41bo$252b2o2bo2bo60b2o80b2ob2o15bo4bo37bo$252b2o3b2o44bo16b2o81b
o2bo23bo35bo$257b2o2bo40b4o29bo69b3o13bo8bo10bo25bo$258b2obo38b5obo27b
obo68bobo13b2obobobobo8b2ob2o24bo$257b2o3bo31b3o2bo6b2o27bo70b2o15bo45b
o$257bo2bobo35bo3bob3o74bo24b2o34b2o26bo$257bo4bo36bobo2b2o74bobo60bo
27bo$380bobo54bo3bo15b2o13bo$259bobo118bo2bo57bo3bo11b2o14bo$259bobo22b
3o94bobo90bo$293bo90bo90bo$286b2o5b3o87b2o54bo29bo6bo$286b4o4bo88bo13b
2o41b3o25bobo6bo$286b2ob3ob2o102b2o3b3o63bo2bo6bo$291bobo164bo10b2o8b
o$262bo138bobobo34b3o13bobo6b2o13bo$262bo118bo19bobobo34b3o13bobo6b2o
14bo$262bo8bo108bobo17bo2b2o35b2ob2o12bo24bo$269bobo62bo47bo17b2ob2o39b
o12b2o24bo$263b3o2bo3bo61bo47bo19bo39b3o12b2o25bo$264bob5o63bo47bo102b
o$270bo215bo$265b2o15b2o99bo68b2o33bo$282b2o95b2ob3o13bobo50b6o31bo$381b
3ob2o11bobo50bo3b2o32bo$291b2o91bo16bo31b3o15bo2bo35bo$281bobo7b2o108b
o31b3o16b3o36bo$281bo4bo5bo104b2ob2o32bo17b2o38bo$280bo4bobo108b3o36b
2o20b2o34bo$281bo6bo106b2o39bo21b2o34bo$281bo2b4o107b2o38bo21bo37bo$273b
o9bo109b3o100bo$272b4o109b2o5b3o16bo85bo$270b5obo108b2o4bo17b2ob2o84b
o$264b3o2bo6b2o6bo65bo40bo2b2o37b2o64bo$268bo3bob3o5bo4bo62bo41bo2bo16b
2o19b2o65bo$269bobo2b2o5bo5bo62bo41b3o18bo20bo66bo$287bo119bo3bo15b2o
73bo$282bo2bo125bo3bo11b2o74bo$277b2o4b3o147b2o69bo$277b2o114b2o110bo
$278b2o113b2o14bo23b2o71bo$270b2o6b2o130b3o18bob2o72bo$270b2o5b3o151b
4o73bo$279bo148bo2b2o76bo$280bo129b3o13bobo81bo$281bo128b3o13bobo82bo
$280b3o127b2ob2o12bo84bo$414bo12b2o84bo$412b3o14bo84bo$320bo106b2o86b
o$319bobo104bobo87bo$318b2ob2o103bobo88bo$318b2ob2o105bo89bo$317b3o104b
obo92bo$317b3o3bo12b2o86bo95bo$317b3o4bo11b2o85bobo95bo$318b2o5bo89b2o
6b2o97bo$318b3o94b2o5bo100bo$319b2o102b2o99bo$320b2o102bo100bo$335b2o
23b3o163bo$359bo2bo164bo$320bo14b3o6b2o16bo165bo$319b3o13bobo6b2o16bo
166bo$318bo3bo36bobo61b2o105bo$322b2o13bo85b2o106bo$321b2o13b2o194bo$
402bo3b2o2b2obo119bo$402bo3b2o4bob2o118bo$331b2obo67bo3b2o2b2ob2o120b
o$331bo3bo70b2o128bo$329bo4bo69bo2bo129bo$313bo15bo4bo69bobo17b2o112b
o$311b2ob2o15b2o72bo18b2o113bo$332bo207bo$314b2o20b2o203bo$315bo19bob
o204bo$309bo3bo23bo205bo$313bo3bo226bo$545bo$432b2o112bo$311bo109b2o9b
2o113bo$312b3o106b3o124bo$420bob3o124bo$405b2o2b5o7bob3o124bo$292b3o110b
o7bo7b4o126bo$405bo4bob2o8b2o128bo$293bo13b2o100b3o141bo$293b2ob3o7bo
bo245bo$292bob4o8bo248bo$292bob3o9b6o87b2o3b4o148bo$293b3o13b3o82b3ob
o2bo6bo148bo$294bo13b2o88bo2bo2b5o149bo$308b3o87bo2bo157bo$309bob3o86b
o159bo$291b2ob2o12b2ob2o84bobo161bo$291b2ob2o12b2ob2o85bo163bo$292bob
2o14bo252bo$293b2o269bo$301bo263bo$300bobo49b3o211bo$286bo13bobo48bo2b
o212bo$287bob2obobo6bo52bo213bo$281b3o3b4o3bo59bo214bo$287bo2b2ob2o56b
obo216bo$286bo114b2ob2o165bo$284b3o18b2o97b2o166bo$284b3o18b6o77b3o13b
o168bo$264bo43b2obo75bo3bo9b2ob2o168bo$259bo2bobo2bo3bo36bo2b2o74bo3b
o183bo$259bo4b2ob5o38b2o75bo3bo11b3o170bo$259bo3bo4bobo37b3o266bo$309b
o78b2ob2o19b2o164bo$261b3o125bo2bo19b2o165bo$262bo127bobo187bo$282b2o
107b2o188bo$283b2o103bo3bo189bo$281b3o103bobobobo189bo$281b3o98bo5bo195b
o$284bo96b3o201bo$282bobo95b3obo201bo$285bo93bo3bo30b2o171bo$282b2o94b
2o2bo2bo27bo2bo171bo$282b3o2bo19bo69b3o2b4o26b6o171bo$278b2ob3o2bo19b
ob2o69bo3bo2bo26bo2bo173bo$277bo2bob2o2b2o22bo68bo6bo27b2o175bo$266bo
b2o7bo6b3o17bo3bo2bo69bo2bo207bo$262b3ob2obo8b2ob4o17bo9bo11b3o13bo42b
2ob2o205bo$263bo3bobo9bo4b2o16bo4b2o2b2o28b2o40bo35b2o173bo$264bo3bo11b
obobo3bo22b2o27b2o253bo$282bo6bo14bo5bo285bo$283b2o3bo16bo4b3o284bo$306b
o4b2o12b3o5b2o69bobo191bo$308b4o12b2ob2o4b2o29b2obo36b2o193bo$269b2o52b
obob2o34b3obo6bobo28bo194bo$269b2o52bo3bo34bo4bobo4bo226bo$324bo2bo9b
2o24b2o6bobo3bo224bo$324b3o10b2o25bo3bo2bo2b2o227bo$279b3o50b2o3bo6b2o
21bob2o3bo229bo$331b4ob2o5b2obo19bobo12b2o222bo$281bo50bobo2bo4bo3bo19b
obo12b2o223bo$279bo61bo3b2o260bo$278bo2b3o52bob2o268bo$278b2ob3o35bo18b
o3b2o265bo$279b3o31b2o3b3o289bo$280bo32b2o3bo2bo4b3o58bo223bo$300b2o16b
3obo2b2ob2o56bobo223bo$300b3o15b2o2bo2b2o2bo56b2o225bo$300b2obo15b2o6b
2o55bob2o226bo$304bo12bo3bo49bo9bob5o227bo$296bo3b2o3bo60bo3b5o5b2obo
3b2o227bo$306bo11bo46bobo7b2o4bo2b2ob2o228bo$303bobo11bo2bo44bo7bob2o
5b6o230bo$277bo25bo13b4o45bo8b2o6bo235bo$276bob2o18bo4bobo12bo16bo31b
o3b4o245bo$280bo53bobo23b2o10b3o246bo$274bo3bo2bo20b4o28bo2b2o20b2o261b
o$272bo9bo11b3o5b2o28b7o14bo7bo261bo$272bo4b2o2b2o48bo2bo3bo14bo270bo
$281b2o47b3o2b7o11bo19b2o250bo$274bo5bo51b3o2bo8bo26b2o251bo$275bo4b3o
50b2ob2o8bo280bo$276bo4b2o12b3o36b3obo2bo286bo$278b4o12b2ob2o36b3ob2o
13b2o5b2o266bo$293bobob2o39bo13b2obo5b2o25bobo239bo$293bo3bo53bo3bo32b
2o241bo$294bo2bo53bo2b2o33bo242bo$294b3o55b3o6b2o3bo14b2o250bo$353bo11b
2o14b2o251bo$359bo275bo$360b3obo28bo242bo$360bo2b3o10b2o14bobo242bo$364b
o2bo7b2o15bobo243bo$364b3o10bo15bo245bo$283b2o81bo273bo$283b2o56b2o3b
3o39b2o251bo$341b2o3bo2bo5bo31bo2bo251bo$328bo18b2obo2b2ob2o30b2o253b
o$327bob2o16bo2bo3bo2bo286bo$331bo15bobo5b2o288bo$325bo3bo2bo12b2o299b
o$323bo9bo11b2ob2o297bo$291b2o30bo4b2o2b2o12bo301bo$291b2o39b2o11bo2b
2o299bo$325bo5bo13b3o302bo$326bo4b3o317bo$314b2o11bo4b2o318bo$317b2o4b
o5b4o38b2o280bo$314b2ob4o3bo45bobo281bo$311b5o4b4o48bo282bo$314b3o6bo
332bo$315bo341bo$314b3o341bo$321bo337bo$321bo338bo$296b3o362bo$296bob
o363bo$296bobo364bo$296bo4b2o361bo$295b3o3b2o362bo$301bo364bo$274bo22b
4o366bo$274bo23b2o368bo$273bobo22bo12b2ob2o23b2o328bo$274b2o2bo11b2o19b
4o23bobo329bo$273bo5bo9bo2bo6bo11b4o25bo330bo$273bo5bo10b2o5bobo372bo
$273bo4bo12bo4b4o373bo$277bo13bo3b4o375bo$274b3o13b2obo4bo376bo$289b2o
385bo$293bo383bo$272b2ob2o12bob3o24b2o358bo$277bo12bo2bo24b2o8b3o348b
o$272b2o16b3o36bo350bo$274b3o52bo351bo$328b3o351bo$683bo$684bo$288b2o
395bo$291bo394bo$288bo2bo395bo$289b2o397bo$289b2o398bo$278b2o8bo2bo398b
o$278b2o8bo402bo$289b3o400bo$693bo$694bo$695bo$696bo$697bo$286b2o410b
o$286b2o411bo$700bo$701bo$702bo$703bo$704bo$705bo$706bo$707bo$708bo$709b
o$710bo$711bo$712bo$713bo$714bo$715bo$716bo$717bo$718bo$719bo$720bo$721b
o$722bo$723bo$724bo$725bo$726bo$727bo$728bo$729bo$730bo$731bo$732bo$733b
o$734bo$735bo$736bo$737bo$738bo$739bo$740bo$741bo$742bo$743bo$744bo$745b
o$746bo$747bo$748bo$749bo$750bo$751bo$752bo$753bo$754bo$755bo$756bo$757b
o$758bo$757b2o24$875bobo$861bobo7bo2bo2bo$860b2ob2o5bobob2obo$861bob2o
6bo$865bo11b3o$864bo13b2o$864bo12b2o7b2o$886b2o5$887b2o$886bo2bo$886b
o2bo4b2o$884bob4o4b2o$883bo2bo$883bobo$866b2o9bo3b2o$866b2o8bo$878b2o
2bo$871bo6b4o$869b3o$868bo3bo$853b2ob2o10bo2bo$853b2o13bo2bo$853b2obo
bo10b2o$856bobo$857b2o2$845bobo$831bobo7bo2bo2bo$830b2ob2o5bobob2obo$
831bob2o6bo$835bo11b3o$834bo13b2o$834bo12b2o7$855b3o$853b2o2bo$852bo3b
o$847bo5bo2bo$846bobo4bobo$836b2o17bo$836b2o18bo$856bobo$856b2o5$844b
2o$844b2o!
Using David Bell's new corderrakes.

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x = 31, y = 13, rule = C
8.2X2.3X.3X.X.X$8.X.X.X3.X3.X.X$8.X.X.3X.3X.X.X$8.2X2.X5.X.X.X$8.X.X.
3X.3X.3X$M2.M$4.M$M3.M$.4M$27.2M$27.M.M$29.M$29.2M! [[ AUTOSTART GPS 10 ]]

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by dbell » July 9th, 2025, 10:06 pm

LuveelVoom wrote:
June 26th, 2025, 8:34 pm
Simple one: pi ship where the front end moves at c/3 instead of c/2.
I looked through the jslife patterns today and saw the "interactions/pi-ship-c3.lif" file which contains a small c/3 based PI ship:

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#CExample of Pi-ship using c/3 p27 puffer engines
#CNicolay Beluchenko, 9/2003
x = 84, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
8b3o17b3o$3booboobo19bobooboo$3boo4boboo13boobo4boo$bbobbo3bobobo11bob
obo3bobbo$9boboboboo5boobobobo$7bo3boboboo5boobobo3bo$8bobobob3o5b3obo
bobo23boo17boo$49bobooboo17booboobo$12b3o9b3o21b3obo3boo13boo3bob3o$
12b3obobobobob3o20bo3boobobobo11boboboboo3bo$13b5obob5o22bo3b3obob3o7b
3obob3o3bo$18bobo31bo3boboboo5boobobo3bo$18b3o32boobo5bo3bo5boboo$15bo
bo3bobo35bo9bo$$13boob3ob3oboo30b3obo3bo3bob3o$13bo11bo32bobbooboboobb
o$12bobbo7bobbo34bobbobbo$12bo4bo3bo4bo33boo5boo$17bo3bo38b4ob4o$11b6o
5b6o$10boo7bo7boo29b3obooboob3o$18bobo36bo4booboo4bo$18b3o39b3o3b3o$
57b4obo3bob4o$7bo49b5o5b5o$5b4o46boo5bo3bo5boo$booboo3bo3bo$boobbo5b4o
3b3o34bo5bobbobbo5bo$obbo7bo3bo3bo39bo3bobo3bo$9bobbobo3bobo15b3o24bob
o$10bo8bo15bo3boobo21bo$19bo10b3obb3o3b3o31b3o$29bobob3o4bo3bo29bo3boo
bo$29bobo3bo7bo25b3obb3o3b3o$33boo28b3obbobob3o4bo3bo$69bo4bo7bo$44b3o
25boo$30bo9boboo3bo$31bo7b3o3b3obb3o$23boo3b3o7bo3bo4b3obobo5bo$29boo
8bo7bo4bo4b3o$48boo6bob3o4boo$55boo3bo3b3o$56b3o8bo$40b3o14boo$40bobo$
40bobo!
BCNU,
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by dbell » August 26th, 2025, 1:54 am

It might be an interesting project to make a gun for a Cordership glider loop.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4713&start=150#p214988

I don't know of a synthesis for the three-engine Cordership, but it shouldn't be hard to find. Then the sparking spaceships can be made by attaching switch engines to them.

Constructing all four Corderships might be a bit tricky, but spacing them out further might make this easier.

Finally, the loop might contain multiple gliders to look nice.

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by RakeGuy1246 » August 31st, 2025, 3:21 pm

Rakinoid (Geminoid Rake) Basically, a geminoid, but it also produces a steady stream of some form of ship. Any form of ship.

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Resu » September 1st, 2025, 1:45 am

A plaintext to RLE converter.

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x = 31, y = 13, rule = C
8.2X2.3X.3X.X.X$8.X.X.X3.X3.X.X$8.X.X.3X.3X.X.X$8.2X2.X5.X.X.X$8.X.X.
3X.3X.3X$M2.M$4.M$M3.M$.4M$27.2M$27.M.M$29.M$29.2M! [[ AUTOSTART GPS 10 ]]

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by tommyaweosme » September 8th, 2025, 6:43 pm

Resu wrote:
September 1st, 2025, 1:45 am
A plaintext to RLE converter.
I don't think this is the right thread, but here you go.

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<h1>RLE converter</h1>
on: <input id="on-symbol">
<br>
off: <input id="off-symbol">
<br>
newline: <input id="newline-symbol">
<br>
plaintext: <input id="plaintext">
<br>
<button onclick="convert();">convert</button>
<br>
result: <text id="result"></text>
<script>
    function convert(){
        var plaintext = document.getElementById("plaintext").value;
        var on = document.getElementById("on-symbol").value;
        var off = document.getElementById("off-symbol").value;
        var newline = document.getElementById("newline-symbol").value;
        var result = plaintext.replaceAll(on,"o");
        var result = result.replaceAll(off,".");
        var result = result.replaceAll(newline,"$");
        document.getElementById("result").innerHTML = result;
    };
</script>
here's the gosper glider gun

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#R life
24bo$22bobo$12b2o6b2o12b2o$11bo3bo4b2o12b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o$2o8bo3bob2o4b
obo$10bo5bo7bo$11bo3bo$12b2o!

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by qqd » September 10th, 2025, 9:32 am

A moving O(log(t)) growth pattern, utilizing a glider bouncing between (2,1) c/6 tecnology and c/6 orthogonal circuitry, releasing another glider at either end. I am not that experienced with either of these speeds, and whether the timing between each reflection can be fine-tuned correctly, but I think it should be feasible to make with current technology.
Currently writing a utility in Lua that may be helpful for faster manual pattern manipulation.

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by I6_I6 » September 12th, 2025, 2:20 pm

A stable version of the Star Gate.

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#C [[ THEME Golly ]]
x = 27, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$A6.A.A$3A4.BA2B.B2D$3.A4.2B.2B2DB$2.2A2.3B.6B2.3B$2.20B$4.19B$4.2B
C10BD4B$4.2B2C10BD4B$4.B2C11B2D3B$4.13B2D4B$5.12BD3B.B2A$6.13B3.BA.A$
6.3B.B3.B10.A$25.2A!
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by PK22 » September 12th, 2025, 3:00 pm

I6_I6 wrote:
September 12th, 2025, 2:20 pm
A stable version of the Star Gate.
I do not believe this is possible. The star gate relies on the Fast Forward Force Field, so any version of the star gate needs to have the gliders needed for the reaction supplied by glider streams.
As far as I know, no collision between a spaceship and stable constellation can create the illusion of superluminous travel.

Idea: A Thessalonic self-constructing spaceship. Since we have a wide range of Thessalonic conduits, and the Spartan G-to-W-to-H, it should be possible to make a Thessalonic UC with current technology - I will try and make a construction arm using the aforementioned components.
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Coda » September 13th, 2025, 11:20 am

Radiation hardened patterns - patterns that eventually evolve into a target pattern, even if their starting configuration has been modified by:
  • zeroing: setting any one living cell to dead
  • OR (another "mode" of radiation hardening if you like) flipping (alive => dead, dead => alive) any one cell in the initial pattern rectangle or its boundary
This is similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(co ... n-hardened

In particular I'd like to submit a challenge:
Find a pattern that is 1-cell zeroing radiation hard and evolves into only one glider (no ash, only a single glider should be left).
I have written a program here: https://github.com/void4/radcheck that can check if a given configuration has this property

At this point I'm not even sure if there exists a pattern that evolves to itself regardless of such a 1-cell zeroing... (excepting the empty grid)

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Resu » September 13th, 2025, 12:37 pm

Coda wrote:
September 13th, 2025, 11:20 am
Radiation hardened patterns - patterns that eventually evolve into a target pattern, even if their starting configuration has been modified by:
  • zeroing: setting any one living cell to dead
  • OR (another "mode" of radiation hardening if you like) flipping (alive => dead, dead => alive) any one cell in the initial pattern rectangle or its boundary
This is similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(computing)
So would a dot spark count?

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x = 31, y = 13, rule = C
8.2X2.3X.3X.X.X$8.X.X.X3.X3.X.X$8.X.X.3X.3X.X.X$8.2X2.X5.X.X.X$8.X.X.
3X.3X.3X$M2.M$4.M$M3.M$.4M$27.2M$27.M.M$29.M$29.2M! [[ AUTOSTART GPS 10 ]]

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Coda » September 13th, 2025, 12:49 pm

Resu wrote:
September 13th, 2025, 12:37 pm
So would a dot spark count?
If the target pattern is the empty grid, then yes :)

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by vilc » September 13th, 2025, 2:16 pm

Coda wrote:
September 13th, 2025, 11:20 am
At this point I'm not even sure if there exists a pattern that evolves to itself regardless of such a 1-cell zeroing... (excepting the empty grid)
If I understand your definitions correctly, the block is such a pattern :

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x = 19, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
12bo4bo$11b2o4b2o2$2o$2o2$11b2o4b2o$12bo4bo!

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by Coda » September 14th, 2025, 3:26 am

vilc wrote:
September 13th, 2025, 2:16 pm
If I understand your definitions correctly, the block is such a pattern
oh, right indeed :D

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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by PK22 » September 15th, 2025, 3:30 pm

PK22 wrote:
September 12th, 2025, 3:00 pm
Idea: A Thessalonic self-constructing spaceship. Since we have a wide range of Thessalonic conduits, and the Spartan G-to-W-to-H, it should be possible to make a Thessalonic UC with current technology - I will try and make a construction arm using the aforementioned components.
I have started working on this idea. So far, I have this horribly unoptimised mess, which is capable of a pull operation:

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x = 4665, y = 4905, rule = B3/S23
1562b2o$1563b2ob2o$1562bo3b2o5$1561b2o$1560bobo$1562bo64$1550bo48bo$
1550b3o44b3o$1544bo8bo33b2o7bo$1542b3o7b2o29bo4bo7b2o$1541bo23bo15b3o
4bobo$1541b2o20b3o14bo8b2o16bo$1562bo17b2o23b3o$1562b2o40bo$1604b2o4b
2o$1509b2o99bo$1510bo37b2o33b2o23bobo$1510bobo35b2o34bo23b2o$1511b2o
71bobo$1585b2o9b2o$1596b2o6$1543b2o$1543b2o26b2o13b2o$1571b2o13b2o2$
1604b2o$1502bo95b2o4bo$1501bobo94bo6b3o$1503bo8b2o32b2o51b3o5bo$1502bo
9b2o11b2o20bo53bo$1525bo21bobo46b2o$1526b3o19b2o40b2o4bobo$1528bo61b2o
6bo$1598b2o$1500b2o6b2o$1500bo7bo$1501b3o5b3o$1503bo7bo4$1492b2o$1492b
2o3b2o$1497b2o3$1484b2o12b2o$1485bo5b2o5bo$1482b3o6b2o6b3o$1482bo18bo
13$1460b2o25b2o$1461bo26bo$1461bobo24bobo$1462b2o25b2o189$1291bo48bo$
1291b3o44b3o$1285bo8bo33b2o7bo$1283b3o7b2o29bo4bo7b2o$1282bo23bo15b3o
4bobo$1282b2o20b3o14bo8b2o16bo$1303bo17b2o23b3o$1303b2o40bo$1345b2o4b
2o$1250b2o99bo$1251bo37b2o33b2o23bobo$1251bobo35b2o34bo23b2o$1252b2o
71bobo$1326b2o9b2o$1337b2o6$1284b2o$1284b2o26b2o13b2o$1312b2o13b2o2$
1345b2o$1243bo95b2o4bo$1242bobo94bo6b3o$1244bo8b2o32b2o51b3o5bo$1243bo
9b2o11b2o20bo53bo$1266bo21bobo46b2o$1267b3o19b2o40b2o4bobo$1269bo61b2o
6bo$1339b2o$1241b2o6b2o$1241bo7bo$1242b3o5b3o$1244bo7bo4$1233b2o$1233b
2o3b2o$1238b2o3$1225b2o12b2o$1226bo5b2o5bo$1223b3o6b2o6b3o$1223bo18bo
13$1201b2o25b2o$1202bo26bo$1202bobo24bobo$1203b2o25b2o230$1109bo$1111b
2o$1110b2o$1112bo253$853bo$855b2o$854b2o$856bo253$597bo$599b2o$598b2o$
600bo253$341bo$343b2o$342b2o$344bo253$85bo$87b2o$86b2o$88bo1462$1569b
2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1569b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o11$1555b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1554bobo
509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$1554bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo$1553b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o6$1574b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1574bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$
1575b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$1577bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo5$1583bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$1581b3o509b3o509b3o
509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$1580bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$1564b2o
14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b
2o$1564b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o12$1563b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1562bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo
509bobo$1562bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$1561b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o$1537b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1536bob
o509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$1536bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo$1535b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o9$1587b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1587bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo
509bobo509bobo$1571b2o16bo493b2o16bo493b2o16bo493b2o16bo493b2o16bo493b
2o16bo493b2o16bo$1571b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o
16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o2$1565bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$
1563b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$1562bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo
18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o$1562b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o
491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o$1591b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1591bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$
1589bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$1589b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o9$1585b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$
1585bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$1587bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo$1587b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o6$
1570b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1570b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o8$1586b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1586bo
bo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$1588bo511bo511bo511bo511b
o511bo511bo$1582bo5b2o504bo5b2o504bo5b2o504bo5b2o504bo5b2o504bo5b2o
504bo5b2o$1580b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$1579bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo$1570b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b
2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o$1570b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o
18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo$1588b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$
1587bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$1561b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b
2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o$1561b2o510b2o510b2o510b
2o510b2o510b2o510b2o5$1562b2o14b2o9b2o483b2o14b2o9b2o483b2o14b2o9b2o
483b2o14b2o9b2o483b2o14b2o9b2o483b2o14b2o9b2o483b2o14b2o9b2o$1563bo14b
2o9bobo483bo14b2o9bobo483bo14b2o9bobo483bo14b2o9bobo483bo14b2o9bobo
483bo14b2o9bobo483bo14b2o9bobo$1560b3o3b2o23bo480b3o3b2o23bo480b3o3b2o
23bo480b3o3b2o23bo480b3o3b2o23bo480b3o3b2o23bo480b3o3b2o23bo$1560bo4bo
bo23b2o479bo4bobo23b2o479bo4bobo23b2o479bo4bobo23b2o479bo4bobo23b2o
479bo4bobo23b2o479bo4bobo23b2o$1565bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$
1564b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o3$1567b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o
493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o$1566bobo15bobo
491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bo
bo15bobo$1566bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo
19bo$1565b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b
2o489b2o19b2o$1581b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$1581bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$1582b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$
1584bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo1515$33b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o$33b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o11$47b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$47bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bo
bo509bobo$49bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$49b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o6$28b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$29bo511b
o511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$26b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$
2b2o22bo487b2o22bo487b2o22bo487b2o22bo487b2o22bo487b2o22bo487b2o22bo$b
obo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo$2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o2$20bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo$20b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$23bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$22b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o
494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o494b2o14b2o$38b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o12$39b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$39bobo509bobo509bob
o509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$41bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$41b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$65b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b
2o510b2o$65bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$67bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$67b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o9$
15b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$14bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo
509bobo509bobo509bobo$14bo16b2o493bo16b2o493bo16b2o493bo16b2o493bo16b
2o493bo16b2o493bo16b2o$13b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b
2o16b2o492b2o16b2o492b2o16b2o2$38bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$38b
3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$21b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo
491b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo491b2o18bo$21b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o
17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o491b2o17b2o$11b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$12bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$12bobo509b
obo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$13b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o9$17b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$16bobo509bobo
509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo$16bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
$15b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o6$32b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o$32b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o8$16b2o
510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$15bobo509bobo509bobo509bobo509bob
o509bobo509bobo$15bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$14b2o5bo504b2o5bo
504b2o5bo504b2o5bo504b2o5bo504b2o5bo504b2o5bo$21b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o
509b3o509b3o509b3o$24bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$23b2o7b2o501b2o
7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o501b2o7b2o$13bo18b2o491bo
18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o491bo18b2o$13b3o509b3o
509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$16bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$15b
2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o24b2o484b2o
24b2o$41b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o5$13b2o9b2o14b2o483b2o
9b2o14b2o483b2o9b2o14b2o483b2o9b2o14b2o483b2o9b2o14b2o483b2o9b2o14b2o
483b2o9b2o14b2o$12bobo9b2o14bo483bobo9b2o14bo483bobo9b2o14bo483bobo9b
2o14bo483bobo9b2o14bo483bobo9b2o14bo483bobo9b2o14bo$12bo23b2o3b3o480bo
23b2o3b3o480bo23b2o3b3o480bo23b2o3b3o480bo23b2o3b3o480bo23b2o3b3o480bo
23b2o3b3o$11b2o23bobo4bo479b2o23bobo4bo479b2o23bobo4bo479b2o23bobo4bo
479b2o23bobo4bo479b2o23bobo4bo479b2o23bobo4bo$38bo511bo511bo511bo511bo
511bo511bo$38b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o3$18b2o15b2o493b2o
15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o493b2o15b2o$17bobo15b
obo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo491bobo15bobo
491bobo15bobo$17bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo491bo19bo
491bo19bo$16b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o19b2o489b2o
19b2o489b2o19b2o$21b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o510b2o$22bo511bo
511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo$19b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o509b3o$
19bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo511bo8$2605bo$2604b2o$2604bobo6$3123b3o$
3123bo$3124bo!
Since I plan to use the original set of push, pull, and fire operations from the Chapman-Greene construction arm, I need 7 edge-shooters in total for a universal set.

A quick test revealed that slmake was able to assemble it in a few minutes thanks to how easy Thessalonic technology is to build and the finished UC shouldn't be that much more expensive, but the complexity means it might take a lot of construction arm operations.
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by ThePlayzr » September 21st, 2025, 8:58 pm

Construction challenge: make a gliderless gun for a flottila - eg. MWSS on MWSS 1
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Re: Construction Challenges and Ideas

Post by PK22 » September 22nd, 2025, 2:08 pm

ThePlayzr wrote:
September 21st, 2025, 8:58 pm
Construction challenge: make a gliderless gun for a flottila - eg. MWSS on MWSS 1
Alright, I have found a 14 LWSS synthesis of MWSS on MWSS 1, I just need to turn it into a gun using p46 technology:

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x = 84, y = 277, rule = LifeHistory
60.A.A$59.A$59.A$59.A2.A$59.3A18$65.2A$65.3A$64.A.2A$64.3A$65.A30$71.
A.A$74.A$74.A$71.A2.A$72.3A47$80.A.A$83.A$83.A$80.A2.A$81.3A11$A2.A$
4.A$A3.A$.4A$29.A2.A$33.A$29.A3.A$30.4A2$65.2A$64.4A$64.2A.2A$66.2A8$
66.2A$64.2A.2A$64.4A$65.2A2$30.4A$29.A3.A$33.A$29.A2.A$.4A$A3.A$4.A$A
2.A11$81.3A$80.A2.A$83.A$83.A$80.A.A47$72.3A$71.A2.A$74.A$74.A$71.A.A
30$65.A$64.3A$64.A.2A$65.3A$65.2A18$59.3A$59.A2.A$59.A$59.A$60.A.A!
At the time of writing, I don't think any gliderless guns that don't fire standard spaceships are known.
Also, yesterday I made a 13 LWSS synthesis for a Coe ship, but the lanes are a bit too close to insert the LWSSes using the twin bees shuttle.

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x = 264, y = 337, rule = B3/S23
30bobo$29bo$29bo$29bo2bo$29b3o37$14b2o$13b3o$13b2obo$14b3o$15bo101$18b
obo$21bo$21bo$18bo2bo$19b3o85$13bobo$16bo$16bo$13bo2bo$14b3o15$b2o$b3o
$ob2o$3o$bo4$130b2o$129b2ob2o$130b4o$131b2o4$52b2o$51b2ob2o$52b4o$53b
2o4$26b4o$26bo3bo$26bo31b4o$27bo2bo27bo3bo$58bo$59bo2bo2$239b4o$239bo
3bo$239bo$240bo2bo8$259b4o$259bo3bo$259bo$260bo2bo9$13bo$12b3o$12bob2o
$13b3o$13b2o22$7bo$6b3o$5b2obo$5b3o$6b2o!
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