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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by GUYTU6J » January 10th, 2020, 7:23 am

Demonoid movement?

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2kn3-nr4ct6aek/S23-aeny4ceiknq6ace
2bo$o2bo2$obo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Moosey » January 10th, 2020, 8:07 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
January 10th, 2020, 7:23 am
Demonoid movement?

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2kn3-nr4ct6aek/S23-aeny4ceiknq6ace
2bo$o2bo2$obo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by muzik » January 28th, 2020, 11:48 am

Using that one spaceship you usually see in exploding life variants:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3-q4ikqr5ery6ace7c/S2-ik3-eky4eqtwz5ijkq6-ik8
3o$2obo$b2o3$7bo$6bobo$6b3o$7b2o!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2in3-cq4cn5ijky6-ak7c8/S2ace3-y4cew5cijn6cin7e
3o$2obo$b2o3$7bo$6bobo$6b3o$7b2o!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B2i3-cq4cirtwz5cjq6-a7c8/S2-ik3-eky4cn5acq6-kn78
3o$2obo$b2o3$7bo$6bobo$6b3o$7b2o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » January 28th, 2020, 4:15 pm

muzik wrote:
January 28th, 2020, 11:48 am
Using that one spaceship you usually see in exploding life variants:
If I recall correctly, that spaceship had a number of around 160 on the Fano database, indicating it's been known for a while.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by LaundryPizza03 » March 20th, 2020, 4:46 pm

An unusual 8c/671 SMOS composed of two 6c/42o's in the same direction. Its evolution also involves two transient copies of the same ship, heading inward, as well as four triplets.

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#C The component
x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-ckny4ejqty5cknqy6-ei/S1c23-aenr4yz5aiq6-a7c
2bo$bobo2bo$o4bobo$bobo2bo$2bo!

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#C The ship itself
x = 2, y = 11, rule = B3-ckny4ejqty5cknqy6-ei/S1c23-aenr4yz5aiq6-a7c
bo$2o$bo6$bo$2o$bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by FWKnightship » March 20th, 2020, 10:54 pm

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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B3-e6i8/S234z5y
b3o15b3o$o3bo13bo3bo$2ob2o13b2ob2o4b3o$26bo3bo$26b2ob2o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by AforAmpere » October 13th, 2020, 6:38 pm

Absurd separation 13c/137:

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x = 28, y = 3, rule = B2in3-cekr4ceijqty5ej6-kn7e/S2-ik3-aeky4aiqty5eir6in7e
2o24b2o$b2o22b2o$o26bo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » October 13th, 2020, 11:45 pm

Are oscillators made of spaceships of any interest in this thread?
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by bubblegum » October 14th, 2020, 11:53 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 13th, 2020, 11:45 pm
Are oscillators made of spaceships of any interest in this thread?
No, but there is a dedicated OMOS thread somewhere.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by lemon41625 » October 15th, 2020, 5:00 am

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = R2,C2,S6-7,9,12-13,17-18,20-23,25-28,B9-13,17,22-23,26-28,NW0010003330130310333000100
2.A11.$4A10.$.2A11.$14.$14.$14.$14.$14.$14.$14.$12.A.$11.3A$11.2A.$12.A.$!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = R2,C2,S6-7,9-10,12,17-21,23-25,B9-10,12,19-22,24-28,NW0010003330130310333000100
3A7.$.A8.$A9.$10.$10.$10.$10.$9.A$8.2A$7.A.A$!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » October 18th, 2020, 2:38 pm

By Moosey, a spaceship where one of said ship's phases consists of two of said ship's other phases.

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x = 66, y = 15, rule = B34e5e67c/S23ce45
2b2o28b2o28b2o$b4o27b2o27b4o$30b2o2b2o$bo2bo25bo4bo25bo2bo$6o54b6o$2b
2o26b6o26b2o$32b2o2$62b2o$62b2o$60b2o2b2o$60bo4bo2$60b6o$62b2o!
EDIT: I found my first SMOS!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-ek4cjtwyz5-akn6ci7e/S2-ck3eknr4-centz5ejq6
3bo$2ob2o$2bo$o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wildmyron » October 18th, 2020, 11:49 pm

wwei23 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 2:38 pm
By Moosey, a spaceship where one of said ship's phases consists of two of said ship's other phases.

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x = 66, y = 15, rule = B34e5e67c/S23ce45
2b2o28b2o28b2o$b4o27b2o27b4o$30b2o2b2o$bo2bo25bo4bo25bo2bo$6o54b6o$2b
2o26b6o26b2o$32b2o2$62b2o$62b2o$60b2o2b2o$60bo4bo2$60b6o$62b2o!
That's quite interesting. I guess we could call it a self-referential SMoS. I wonder what kinds of interactions that allows for.

And welcome to the SMoS hunting club :)

Edit: Ah, I just remembered that someone already coined the term "spaceship made of itself" (SMOI) for this type of pattern, and there are several examples already in this thread.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » October 18th, 2020, 11:56 pm

wildmyron wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 11:49 pm
And welcome to the SMoS hunting club :)
Heh, I just got really lucky when trying to weld two rules together for a mashup rule (to reduce the total number of states needed). Try removing S6e, and you'll see that it was supposed to be a c/6 orthogonal spaceship.

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-ek4cjtwyz5-akn6ci7e/S2-ck3eknr4-centz5ejq6-e
3bo$2ob2o$2bo$o!
Hey, the SMOS works here if you add that cell manually!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-ek4cjtwyz5-akn6ci7e/S2-ck3eknr4-centz5ejq6-e
3bo$5o$2bo$o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by yujh » October 19th, 2020, 6:30 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 18th, 2020, 2:38 pm
By Moosey, a spaceship where one of said ship's phases consists of two of said ship's other phases.

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x = 66, y = 15, rule = B34e5e67c/S23ce45
2b2o28b2o28b2o$b4o27b2o27b4o$30b2o2b2o$bo2bo25bo4bo25bo2bo$6o54b6o$2b
2o26b6o26b2o$32b2o2$62b2o$62b2o$60b2o2b2o$60bo4bo2$60b6o$62b2o!
EDIT: I found my first SMOS!

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3-ek4cjtwyz5-akn6ci7e/S2-ck3eknr4-centz5ejq6
3bo$2ob2o$2bo$o!
I think a lot of things like this can be found in the 5s collection, as I mentioned somewhere else before.(how can I find a smos, only with golly and python?)

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Saka » October 19th, 2020, 7:11 am

yujh wrote:
October 19th, 2020, 6:30 am

(how can I find a smos, only with golly and python?)
Most of the SMOS here have been found with just those 2 tools.
I've posted the instructions here before, but in brief:
1. Set up an initial pattern of 2 spaceships colliding somewhat far apart so they dont collide before 1 cycle of the ship
2. Run searchRule2-matchPatt.py from 5S
3. Enter the period of the ship for the generations to match
4. wait
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » October 19th, 2020, 8:17 am

Well, in my case, I didn't even need that script. I just mutated the wrong transition by mistake, and then it started SMOSing on me.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by yujh » October 21st, 2020, 8:11 am

12c/427d!

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B2n3-kq4ijkryz5ajn6ace/S2ack3-jn4ciqryz5acqy6an7c8
9bo$8b2o$9bo7$bo$3o!
surprise!

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x = 51, y = 122, rule = B2in3-cknq4ciktwyz5acjn6-ak8/S2-ik3-cnq4cinrwyz5acjn6aei8
12bo$11b2o$12bo9$bo$3o96$50bo$49b2o$50bo10$39bo$38b3o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by FWKnightship » October 21st, 2020, 9:51 am

yujh wrote:
October 21st, 2020, 8:11 am
surprise!

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x = 51, y = 122, rule = B2in3-cknq4ciktwyz5acjn6-ak8/S2-ik3-cnq4cinrwyz5acjn6aei8
12bo$11b2o$12bo9$bo$3o96$50bo$49b2o$50bo10$39bo$38b3o!
(ship,16c/462d, rake, unknown!)
38c/1057d.
C/2:

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2in3-cknq4ciktwyz5acjn6-ak8/S2-ik3-cnq4cinrwyz5acjn6aei8
3o$obo$bo$obo2$b2o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » October 25th, 2020, 4:17 pm

I found the c/12, iNoMed found the SMOS. Guess which way the c/12 goes, and guess which way the c/15 goes.

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x = 2, y = 30, rule = B2i3ainq4-aij5ciky6ein/S2-ik3-iy4itwy5aen6-a
o$2o$o18$o$2o$o5$o$2o$o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by yujh » October 26th, 2020, 6:09 am

wwei23 wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 4:17 pm
I found the c/12, iNoMed found the SMOS. Guess which way the c/12 goes, and guess which way the c/15 goes.

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x = 2, y = 30, rule = B2i3ainq4-aij5ciky6ein/S2-ik3-iy4itwy5aen6-a
o$2o$o18$o$2o$o5$o$2o$o!
Is that a smos?

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » October 26th, 2020, 6:28 am

yujh wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 6:09 am
wwei23 wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 4:17 pm
I found the c/12, iNoMed found the SMOS. Guess which way the c/12 goes, and guess which way the c/15 goes.

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x = 2, y = 30, rule = B2i3ainq4-aij5ciky6ein/S2-ik3-iy4itwy5aen6-a
o$2o$o18$o$2o$o5$o$2o$o!
Is that a smos?
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by yujh » October 26th, 2020, 8:01 am

Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 6:28 am
yujh wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 6:09 am
wwei23 wrote:
October 25th, 2020, 4:17 pm
I found the c/12, iNoMed found the SMOS. Guess which way the c/12 goes, and guess which way the c/15 goes.

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x = 2, y = 30, rule = B2i3ainq4-aij5ciky6ein/S2-ik3-iy4itwy5aen6-a
o$2o$o18$o$2o$o5$o$2o$o!
Is that a smos?
Yes...Why wouldn't it be?
They don’t complete a cycle before interacting with each other.

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » October 26th, 2020, 8:22 am

yujh wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 8:01 am
Schiaparelliorbust wrote:
October 26th, 2020, 6:28 am
Yes...Why wouldn't it be?
They don’t complete a cycle before interacting with each other.
That's according to a stricter definition.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by wwei23 » November 11th, 2020, 3:08 pm

LOL

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x = 34, y = 8, rule = B2ei3aeikr4eqw5ijry6cik/S1c2-kn3any4ein5k6c7c
bo9bo9bo9bo$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo2$22b2o7b2o$b2o9b2o7b
o11bo$o13bo7b2o7b2o$b2o9b2o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)

Post by Schiaparelliorbust » November 11th, 2020, 3:15 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 11th, 2020, 3:08 pm
LOL

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x = 34, y = 8, rule = B2ei3aeikr4eqw5ijry6cik/S1c2-kn3any4ein5k6c7c
bo9bo9bo9bo$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo$obo7bobo7bobo7bobo2$22b2o7b2o$b2o9b2o7b
o11bo$o13bo7b2o7b2o$b2o9b2o!
Are there any other known SMOSs where one spaceship is simply a tagalong of another?
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